Why Consciousness is Immortal | The Philosophical Proof of Life After Death
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2024
- Is there life after death? This documentary explores a philosophical argument that suggests consciousness is immortal, and that life after death exists in the form of “personal subjective continuity.”
This argument was first presented by the philosopher Thomas Clark, and can be found in his essay titled “Death, Nothingness, and Subjectivity.”
Today we explore the implications of this argument, including how it fits with the concept of "open individualism", as conceived by the philosopher Daniel Kolak.
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*When discussing open individualism in the video, I use an analogy of nuclear fusion in stars to describe a general principle of consciousness. I found this analogy in an anonymous post on Reddit from a deleted account, so I was not able to give proper credit in the video.
This video contains Royalty Free / Reuse allowed music:
Aeternum by Aleks Michalski
Discovery by Scott Buckley
Dematerialized by DreamState Logic
SI FI and Cicada 3301 by CO.AG Music (2 tracks)
My Mom passed away on 12th September 2023 @ 7:12am. I feel her presence, I know I will meet her again one day. I miss her how she was healthy and happy, but in my mind she talks to me.
I wish I could meet my papa after my purpose is over on this earth. He passed away 2nd September 2019 and I miss him every day
Im so sorry amigo. R. I. P. Your mommy.
Already been reincarnated, started on her next life. Let her go.
spirits love the corners....
nonsense....it took Sara a decade...nobody comes back quickly. typically. @@kayakMike1000
I search these videos when I’m depressed and just completely over my current situation. The same ole mundane hustle. Same schedule day after day. When I feel like giving up these videos bring me a lot of comfort.
I'm 71yo. You helped me to understand much of what is becoming apparent to me at this point in my life. Thank you.
That what? You're old? Going to die sometime in the next 20 years or so?
You need Jesus Christ… that’s the way to life after death
Any proof of this? It's the internet, anyone can claim any age these days, not saying you're lying, but an unproved claim can be easily dismissed.
@@kayakMike1000that's not very nice.
@jasujokelainen5073 truth is never nice
I had a near death experience as a 14yr old while in a high speed rollover car crash.
I felt absolute paralyzing fear as the crash seemingly happened in slow motion (even though we were traveling over 100mph)…
As the car began to spin out of control - I felt a calm come over me, and in my mind I said “I’m coming to see you dad” as I felt ready to leave this realm and see my father in the afterlife.
Upon surviving I felt a sense of renewed purpose, almost a rebirth.
I felt a similar death and rebirth during a guided DMT trip as a 42yr old man.
I do think we are programmed to die well, and be ready to leave our physical form.
I think the key to enjoying our current existence is learning to let go…of everything and anything as all of this is temporary. If we can embrace that, we will be better prepared at our end, to let go of ourselves.
Happy & safe travels all 🙏🏻
I too crashed my car. I was ejected out the window as I wasn't wearing my seatbelts, but was fortunately unharmed. Afterwards I began reading the bible, realized it was incredibly flawed and immoral. But I felt compelled to do something, anything. I then saw a TV show called Hilda on Netflix. The show was so inspiring that I began to draw. Drawing has unlocked a new part of life that I barely knew before. I feel like I'm developing myself with each drawing.
spiritual deaths do occur.....
cool story bro
" I do think we are programmed to die"
O you have no idea how true you are. It's called gene editing. Nothing new, under the sun, I assure you.
But as for your concluding statements,
this was the first thing that came to mind...
"Train yourself to let go of the things you fear to lose most". - Yoda
Powerful wisdom.
@@gothboschincarnate3931 Suppose I were to tell you that death is not so much an event, but a place. A place of state of self.
"Let the dead bury their own dead"
- Yeshua hamashiach
I've been having spontaneous OBEs for months now. As a lifelong materialist and atheist, it has absolutely changed my view on life after death and what we call reality.
People are waking up everywhere, not sure why, but it makes me feel like something is coming.
Cools...time to wake up. How far have you gotten so far??? (what was the highest spiritual dimension have you achieved). Dont get yer hopes up.....
Oh my! How beautiful!
No something happened Nov 2022? Its like they plug in a new tape of us.Try to think before then and now.Strange things are happening. A blimp or glitch in the simulation. Perhaps a new God?cheers
There is no such thing as waking up life is infite possibilites infinite waking up
Your brain is rotting, that's what's happening!
This is so uncanny coming across this video. I've said this for years, posted my thoughts about it on social media and even to my dying relatives, that we always exist because we know no other than existing. The way it's explained here is excellent. I'm 74 and have no fear of 'dying' only of who I'm leaving behind and the fond memories. I'm looking forward to continuing my consciousness in another form.
My thoughts exactly
Good man, thats the spirit (no pun intended) Its all just a game, a journey and I wish you all the best on your next one.
❤
Dream on, Klingon!
Your logic is flawed. When we go under general anesthetic, we cease to exist. You have no subjective consciousness. No one can communicate with you. You have no sense of whether you were under for 20 minutes or four hours. If you died while being under general anesthesia, you’ve never have a sense that eternity has passed since you died because you no longer exist The only difference when we die is it our brains die too. You can’t have subjective consciousness without a brain, PERIOD! Our brain is no longer capable of experiencing subjective consciousness. we simply cease to exist. It’s Occam razor at its core principal. it’s not about us. The universe doesn’t know we’re here. Doesn’t care when we go extinct. To believe otherwise simply wish thinking. And of course we wish it to be true. People simply can’t accept reality.
I've been on this trail defining vonsciousness for some time, and now that I have been diagnosed with terminal cancer, your video was the first I saw here. This is precisely how I feel about consciousness. Thank you so much. You've lifted me🤗
Twelve is an excellent number.
"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." --A.B. (DD1)
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@@kevconn441 WTH is Wrong with you, don't you have any common decency about you!
@@kevconn441wow dude, that's low. Get a grip. & to the OG commenter, I'm very sorry about your condition and wish you well
The only hope beyond the grace is receiving Jesus Christ! John 11:25 His is the resurrection and life.
Much of this is word salad. No proof of anything.
I experience; I am something that experiences, or has the potential to experience. I am.
As for immortality: Personally, it seems obvious to me that metaphysical truths are seen directly or not seen at all. But what do i know? Enough 'said.
My favorite part is that as nuclear fusion is expressed in many stars, there is only consciousness expressed in many lives.
Thanks! That’s an argument for “open individualism” - it’s a truly fascinating concept, and well worth exploring.
That’s why this video could’ve lasted five one minute and simply defined Panpsychism. Personally, I’d give that belief less than a 5% probability of being the core of our reality.
They're completely unrelated though. It's a logical fallacy. Each star is powered by fusion in a vacuum, both literally and figuratively.
In 1987 I had a Near Death Experience .. I experienced paralysis down one side of my body down to my waist ... A couple of days in,, I was watching the TV when I developed a SEVERE headache - Even blinking my eyes became too painful. I then felt myself drift toward the ceiling over by the stairs.... As I looked down I could see a lightning storm going on inside my head .. I also saw our young twins climbing on me and my wife telling them to leave me alone as i needed my sleep.... After a while the lightening storm stopped, I went back to my body and woke up mystified ... I never told anyone in my family for several years, but I noticed a dramatic difference in my personality ... I went from being an out-going, confident, authoritive person to a humble, kinder, reclusive, shy individual .... I was later diagnosed as having MS ... I'm now STUCK with my 'other' personality ... Did I Die? Or did I just inherit another consciousness, personality, Soul?? 🤔
Sounds more like you experienced a mini stroke, your brain got damaged so your personality changed. That's what being a biological being means, you are the flesh.
A bit like, as a child you were a totally different person than as an adult.. as you brain and body are totally different. Only the narrative, the ego, is what keeps you together.
brain changes lead to personality changes. look at a child at 10 and the same child at 14. or anyone with a brain injury. our beliefs change our personality as well.
its not soul, you are not die, your consciousness is not recognizing your body as its landmark. This realm change its config after you die, you see the world by another variable, thats all secret of life.
sounds like viewing flatland from 3d space. read the book or watch the animation
been there, done that:
you had a stroke.
period.
See: 'Transient Ischemic Attack', or 'TSA'.
gtf _off_ the new age/crystals/AlienGreys/BuckarooBanzaiAcrossThe8thDimension/'astral plane' horsehyte, and gtf _on_ w your _life_ , fren.
-fat old 3-strokes survivor
This is something I more or less came to the conclusion on for myself a long time ago. I could have never put it into words like this and truly this helped me paint a better picture in my mind something that I've always known.
It's extremely difficult to explain 4D concepts to a being primarily limited by 3D in almost every endeavor. But we do have ways! 🙂 Paths. Choices. Tactics to help tell & show.
"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." --A.B. (DD1)
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Subject, script, narration, choice of images and music, editing. Complex subject made accessible to all. Well done - truly amazing. Good job. 👍
I’ve been saying this for years, to completely die would be against the 2nd law of thermodynamics, and through entanglement your self endures, you literally shed your mass on death not the entangled information that makes you, you, it’s like a caterpillar transcends into a butterfly!
Exactly True ! Facts Expose Hints !
I can't understand the first part of your argument: The 2nd law says that disorder prevails with time - while constructively the human body & mind are extremely ordered structures which means that decay is inevitable
Consciousness is a gift from life, not from death... stay alive and awake..or you will lose your Conscious mind.
@@thoel1he means 1st Law of Thermodynamics (specifically, the principle of conservation of energy within a closed system).
@@CrazyLinguiniLegsYes, and when you die that energy does persist, but in the form of heat which, unlike consciousness, is disordered and chaotic. That’s not to assert there is no life after death - but if there is, the conservation of energy won’t get you there.
Receiving notification that a new ''metaRising'' video has dropped, the ''quality of my conscious experience'' is greatly enhanced! This gem too, joins several others in my ''favorites'' cache for inspiration in those trying times, when I might otherwise forget, that ''compassion is clarity'' . And I thank you!
Wow, thanks. That means a lot!
Then there is this: If time is infinite, what are the odds we should be here in this particular moment in all eternity? Infinitely small of course. Yet here we are.
Fascinating. Similar vanishing odds apply to our particular genetic expression, given that a different sperm really would have created a different person, just like many simbings are very different.
We had to be somewhere, and if we were elsewhere we'd still say "why here?" The answer is because we had to be somewhere. Just as if I throw a dart at a massive wall and say, "what are the odds it'd hit right there?" As if that spot is special. But it's a wall, and there are no special spots on it ;)
People ask "why was I born me instead of you?" Because we all had to be someone. But really, we're all "I", and everyone else if "you". "Everyone calls themselves 'I'. I'm 'I', you're 'I' to yourself... Each and everyone of us is 'I'" - Alan Watts
Sure, but, just like the dart, we did not have to exist. There are plenty of things we can think of that do not exist.@@naturalisted1714
I take it one step further: out of all people who have lived and died now and in the future, how did I come into existence
@@edwarddelgado9654 You could ask the same question no matter what era you're born in - which reveals that there's nothing special about being born now, or any time.
I'm really glad videos like this exists. I myself also tried to talk about such serious subject but I missed my chance with the presentation. This video was really nicely made, thank you for your work and for illuminating minds
I love this. There are thoughts here that I've had myself, but now I'm relieved to find I'm not alone with my bizarre theories. Reminds me of Andy Weir's The Egg, or the 'one electron' theory. I watch these things in the night when I can't sleep, but instead of giving me an existential crisis, they make me feel better. I love your channel; the narration, the research, the content... Just brilliant, thank you Adrian ❤
you do not understand the definition of 'theory'. A Scientific theory starts as a hypothesis backed by evidence. It is your HYPOTHESIS, there is NO EVEIDENCE, therefore NOT a theory.
@@petdoctor3 Oh oops, thanks for correcting me... I was speaking in layman's terms, as it's a long time since I did my degree, I'm a bit out of practice academically. 🙄
Thank you very much Sue! I was going to discuss The Egg in this video but didn’t have time. It’s a beautiful allegory of open individualism. Really glad you enjoyed the video :)
Thank you for putting into clear words certain ideas and thoughts I have had turning over in jumbled fragments within passing conversations with the barely audible whispers at the edges of my waking imagination. ❤ your channel is a gift and a true pleasure to watch
Wow. Thank you so much!
My thought exactly
I find myself having that same feeling with many of the philosophy related videos I watch. For me, I’m better able to clearly organize my thoughts into coherent ideas or systems simply by writing about them. The way that works best for me is to kind of journal about them. No particular format or anything, it always just kind of rambles through the main points of the idea first, then later in the writing the thoughts become cohesive once I’ve been able to fully flesh them out.
Adrian, so glad to see you're putting out new content. I love your stuff!
Thank you! Hope you find this one interesting.
@@metaRising Always!
This is the best explanation of Consciousness I have heard. I have known this most of my life and have read on the subject. Blessings to you!
Amazing video Adrian , this subject matter is profound beyond calculation and as such the most fascinating. Thankyou and please keep going.
The view of conscious awareness presented here is a revelation of an enlightened state of mind. Wonderful!
This was an EXCELLENT explanation of Clark's essay. I've been thinking about this idea of his for some time now and as philosophical arguments go, it is very convincing to me. Like you, I arrived at a similar conclusion that "you" are everyone, and everyone is "you" - that we all will experience every available conscious experience that has or will happen. It is both terrifying and exciting at the same time, because as you rightfully said, there are some pretty horrific conscious experiences to be had. How this consciousness process actually works in terms of "how does the next one, from your perspective, get 'selected', for lack of a better term, is something that may not be able to be explored.
Thanks very much! I’m glad you liked it. When it comes to what you call “selection”, I think the reality is that consciousness is always simultaneously waking up in every being. It’s not that I always wake up as me but instead that as consciousness experiences my mind, it only has access to my limited memories etc.
The theory outlined in this video is very similar to the overall theme of rebirth in Buddhism. So in that context, your specific question about 'the next perspective' ties in perfectly with the concept of Karma. Do good things, be a good person and your rebirth will be good. Do bad things, be cruel to people, and your next rebirth will be hellish.
When coming back from sleep, consciousness has to adjust itself to your location, your home, your room, each part of your body, your memories, then you wake up with the same individual consciousness that constitute your ego.
Why does consciousness comes back into existence after death? There are still desires to be experimented on this planet, therefore an appropriate body is chosen for these desires.
In my NDE, I simply "switched" awareness from this reality to the black void. In doing so, I left all awareness of my Earthly identity behind. I was unaware of any kind of transition at all. I was simply there, a point of consciousness in a soft velvety blackness. I had been suspended in that joyful state forever. In my consciousness was all knowledge and always had been ... all knowledge except having ever existed in form.
I brought none of that knowledge back with me except for a vague memory about the plasticity of time...
I came back firm in the knowledge/sense that we are far greater and far bigger than we think we are. We are powerful, immortal beings.
But I feel it would be better if it was a choice for consciousness to be able to choose to ramain in that state for eternity instead of being forced to be flash bound and experience suffering for eternity
This must be one of the most mindopening videos one can ever watch. The part where you go to bed and wake up as 2.0 etc is a thing i've been thinking about a lot earlier, and it's true. If we woke up as a totally different being, we would still be the same awareness. This is so deep, that i think one has to watch this multiple times. I will for sure put this on my favorite list of videos, that i will watch over and over again. Thank you so much for making this video! I have subscribed to your channel. Hope to see more videos likes this. The term "we are all one" certainly gives much more meaning now.
Thank you very much! I’m really glad you liked it!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts in this excellent presentation. As other viewers have said, it helped in crystallising my own thoughts I have been formulating for many years. I need to watch out a few more times, but it is definitely one of the most important videos I have seen on UA-cam, for me. I would love to pick up the conversation with you after I have digested your words more completely. Many thanks again!
Thank you very much. It’s beautiful that you and others have connected with Clark’s view. It was a powerful insight to me. 🙏
Lately I've been thinking about this reality. I am here now, I am conscious of who I am. I'm alive, did I ever die? I could have, just as i am going to die now. When, I'm reborn, I am here now, again. My consciousness was always here and always will be. Consciousness continues. I am proof.
Great video! I've come to this conclusion too: _I_ will never die, even though this _form_ I currently have probably will. Hence the ancient mantra "I am". Ultimately our subjectivity is one and the same. And indeed, we should strive toward a better existence for all - not doing so would be setting ourselves up for suffering.
Thank you Adrian for your unique and profound insight on the matter. Keep doing what you’re douing bc it’s so good. Along with your pleasant voice and your choice of the soundtrack. ❤👍
Thanks for the video. There are not many videos that I find that delve into the depths of the nature of consciousness like yours do.
The idea that all consciousness is one and the same is ultimately what I lean towards but I wouldn't say I'm close to any certainty or without doubt. There are many philosophical dilemmas and existential fears that proceed from this idea for me.
I will have to watch the video again to try make sure I grasp everything you are saying before I perhaps ask anything or comment more, thanks again!
You're welcome. I'll do my best to answer if you have questions.
If the self is an illusion, it makes you question the true nature of self-awareness. It is plausible that we just have awareness and that awareness is the universe thinking it is us. The universal soul concept is based on that idea.
One of the most profound arguments I have ever seen, thanks for that!
I've been advancing this argument for years! Thanks for reaffirming the truth of it!
I've just found this channel...wow!!! Thanks so much for putting out content like this.
Brilliant as always. Thoughtful and thought provoking - great visuals.
Thanks Davey Boy
For whatever it's worth to any of you, I have an experience that gives me proof of some transcendence of simple physical awareness. I once had a shared dream with a close friend, except that it wasn't just a simple copy of the same experience between us, as in some kind of linking of mind experience, but rather a separate experience of the same events from our own unique perspectives. To my mind, the only way this could be is that our consciousness' traveled out of this world to another real place and had individual experiences there.
This experience is not necessarily at odds with the assertions of this presentation, but suggests that perhaps consciousness is not required to be rooted only in a physical plane such as this one, or at least in a single physical plane, being able to shift between realms, or across time and space. It may also have been some means of communication of consciousness, a possibility of receiving the perspective of another experience across space, time, or dimension. It stretches the limits of my comprehension to consider the implications, but it did happen, and our proof is ours alone, though we share it with each other.
Yes , we can even Share Dreams , When all parties are focused and Open to Receive ! Designated Launch Area to Meetup+ Explore joined Imagination + Memories Recycle !
Yeah I once witnessed two friends have an out of body experience together. We were all on acid in a cabin and the reason I know it happened is I watched them go silent with blank stares looking into each others eyes like they just weren’t here anymore then after maybe 10 seconds they snapped out with one demanding the other to tell him he witnessed the same thing and the other just refusing to acknowledge it out of fear. They soon both said they left their bodies and were circling the cabin while looking in at the three of us. I believe them because they were terrified and they stick to the story some 15 years later.
I have schizophrenia and once went into psychosis for a few hours and my boyfriend went through the same exact thing as me. I'd never been so confused. He doesn't have hallucinations or mental illness symptoms and had never been through psychosis. Whenever I pulled out of it so did he and right away I looked at him and said "did that really just happen?". It still trips me out.
Now I've heard of shared dreams so I feel a little less strange but yeah he has never had hallucinations/psychosis since that one night together for a few hours.
Thank you for sharing. Could you desribe a bit more about your experience?
@ortunka Basically, I found myself in a wooded area with a large colonial style house. I went into the house, and it had a kind of Victorian style, a vivid red Victorian type couch stood out to me especially. I went back out, and there were some creatures out front, they seemed to me like beautiful statuesque gargoyle type humanoids with marbled grey skin. They were doing some kind of ritual, I went to pull one of the creatures away, and she struggled to stay engaged in the ritual, but otherwise paid no attention to me. At some point she became annoyed at my interference and broke free of me, flying up into the air, and swooping down at me with startling ferocity. In that moment, my thought was basically "Nope!", and I abruptly woke up in my bed.
It was such an interesting and unusual dream, I mentioned it to my best friend that day, out of the blue. He immediately mentioned the red couch, and I was shocked. I questioned him some more about what happened there, and the only thing we disagreed on was the appearance of the beings, although we both agreed that they were very beautiful. He told me things that he could not possibly have known unless he was there, including how it ended. He said that when she swooped down at me, I just disappeared. I never really asked if he stayed longer, or what he did or saw after that. I didn't really press him more about it, because he seemed reluctant to discuss it. I never saw him there, or knew he was present until we spoke that day.
In the years since, that friend kinda went off the deep end, and he's basically a shadow of who he once was. He's gone into psychiatric treatment, and is heavily medicated these days, including a medication for nightmares. I feel really bad for him, and I don't know if this event was a factor in his current state, but I hope he finds peace somehow. I also hope that nightmare medication works for dream walkers, because as we both now know, sometimes your nightmares are real.
I mean, seriously a fantasticly concise and finely-synthesized presentation of ancient-primordial, historical, and contemporary concepts with proper referencing to seminal contemplatives within the fields on what life really SEEMS to mean. When all strung together as you've done for us, the ultimate context of: "whats really on the otherside of death is...abstraction in the most fundamental possible sense for any conscious being." I truly appreciate it and hope you attempt to have some of these ideas published. I believe many fields of import would find this fascinating work. All the best...so that consciousness might persist :-)
Cleared it all up for me in that it approaches every idea I had about this subject! At last!
Thank you! Glad it was helpful :)
Thank for putting into words what I've always felt but could never explain
Glad it was helpful!
You made the exact same type of argument in this video as I have my whole life, it really resonates with me the way you described it. If we allow ourselves not to fight our subjective experience for what it is objectively, we round ourselves back to the same objective experience for what it is subjectively anyway. We have nothing but time at our disposal, and the passage of enough time will only allow for our conscious experience to take place yet again despite the loss of whatever physical surrogate we find ourselves taking place within. This argues that we will always be reborn into something new if we find ourselves as we are in the first place. There may be countless forms for us to take place within, but when and where will remain a question until the next time it takes place, it is sort of like the afterlife, but we will take place in whatever we can find ourselves in through our conscious place in life, and our subjective area within ourselves will take place in an objectively new one, be it waking from sleep, or finding a new bodily experience after death, it all takes place, but after a new time after there is room in the Universe for us to take place again. It is almost a paradox, but it taking place is objectively less paradoxical than our consciousness never finding a new place to nestle inside of ever again after our physical form has perished.
You got it all right, except it won't be you in a different body.
@@naturalisted1714 feel free to put it that way, I disagree.
I enjoy the calm and precise presentation style of the perspective.
I appreciate that!
I really love this video, it brings an enormously intriguing idea of consciousnesses being all one mind. The video had my attention from beginning to end, and was aligned with my own way of thinking. Beliefs are flexible if you are open enough. Thank you!
You should definitely read Clark's essay (the one he talked about in the video)! "Death, Nothingness and Subjectivity".
A finite existence must occur to counter the monotony of infinity.
I don't think Monotony exists in the infinite experience, just in the finite experience
Yes, and if that is true... Then it must reoccur, at some point, over and over again. Endlessly. There can be periods, eons long-and longer-where there's no consciousness anywhere, but consciousness must eventually arise to-as you say-"counter the monotony of infinity".
There is no "monotony of infinity" if the infinity itself is infinitely creative
The improbable finite exists to counter the impossible infinity.
everything in the physical realm has a beginning, a middle and an end.
Love the movie clips! Some of my favorites. Yeah, I would say this equates with a lot of what teachers of nonduality talk about. That awareness is fundamental, not emergent. I'm not sure if you really explain here how this is compatible with materialism, the two seem to be opposed on the face of it, but maybe I just missed the point? I've been exploring nondualism for the past couple of years, hoping to arrive and some experiential insights of the illusory nature of self, the nondual nature of reality, and experiencing from the perspective of "Aweareness" rather than a mind with sense organs. So far, haven't really managed anything close, but I do recognize intellectually that the "self" that we take ourselves to be is illusory, made up simply of sense data, experiences, and a process in our brain that weaves these into a story about a central controller that is continuous through time from one moment to the next, has a life story, including a past and future. All of these are simply stories we tell ourselves based on what we learn about from others, what our parents told us when we were very young and trying to figure out what reality was. We accepted their stories because, well, they were presumably there to protect us and feed us, and we looked to them for all of our answers.
Also, this reminds me of this thought that I had about 10 years ago, before any of this nonduality stuff, before I'd even meditated for the first time. It suddenly occurred to me that there's no way we could prove that "we" aren't constantly waking up in completely different bodies (and minds), the idea being there is something separate from those things, I initially might have called it a "soul" (even though I've been an atheist for 40 years) but now might call it "Awareness", and that it could switch between bodies and minds at will. I initially considered it as you mention, when waking up. If "I" woke up in a brain different from what "I" was experiencing the previous night, there would be no way for "me" to know the difference, because, well, the brain wouldn't know that there was anything different. The brain simply would have memories for that particular person from their previous night, and the "I" who might have been "transported" into it at some point during the night, would simply inhabit those memories and be aware of them as "their own." But why limit it to going unconscious for this "transfer"? There's no logical reason why such a transfer couldn't happen while one is "conscious" (awake). And this process of transference could be happening a Googleplex times every yoctosecond? Or perhaps the numbers are so large as to be infinite, given the possibly infinite nature of the universe? So in every second, your "awareness" (or perhaps better to say just "Awareness") travels around the entire universe inhabiting very even minutely sentient being for a quadrillionth of a yoctosecond, only to cycle back to you eventually. Then again, many of these nondual teachers as well as Eastern religions and spiritual traditions contend that time itself is an illusion, so in that sense, we simply take time out of the picture, because, well, at least for a fundamental force like "Awarness" (if you believe it be), then time would be meaningless so you could essentially be everywhere simultaneously. Obviously it gets very hard to talk about, more sounds like crazy gibberish or the ravings of a mad man, lol! I just thought it interesting that this idea just came upon me one day WAY before I ever learned anything about theories of consciousness, nondualism, etc.
Thank you for your thoughtful comments. Glad you enjoyed the clips! This thought of yours, "It suddenly occurred to me that there's no way we could prove that "we" aren't constantly waking up in completely different bodies" is exactly the point I'm trying to make in the video. We are literally subjectivity itself. It takes a bit of thought to understand how this is compatible with materialism, because it seems to necessitate some kind of mental nonlocality, but it is. Subjectivity jumps all gaps. I should add that I myself am not a materialist.
@@metaRising Thanks, I'll have to think about that some more. :) I understand what you are getting at with the subjectivity idea, however my only difficulty with that is around the idea of "being the subject" which seems akin to being a "self." And as I mentioned, I think this is an illusory sensation, although it seems quite real. I've heard many people talk about how they, at least for short periods lost that sense and simply didn't have a center, they seemed to exist as everything. I guess you could call it a mystical experience. Since presumably this is being mediated through the brain (maybe), it could just be another experience they were having, whatever it felt like. But there seemed to be something qualitatively different about it than normal SUBJECTIVE consciousness. So in a sense I always figured that if there were to be anything "beyond" consensus reality, that it would be something akin to this. Then again, many of the people who go through an "awakening" talk about how it is nothing "special" and how they realized after they had this deeper understanding, that it was "always the case." But regardless, the idea that we continue to be subjects of action or even experience seems to clash a bit with the idea of our "true nature" being that of beingness or awareness itself. But of course, these are all words and thoughts and stories, so of course not worth much. But yeah, "subjectivity" seems somehow contradictory, but maybe there isn't really a good word for it?
Wow. You and I are very similar in our thinking. For an atheist who only recently began studying non-dualism you have a great grasp of the concepts. And like you, I also had similar thoughts as a child before I even entertained more “mystical” philosophy
You really believe in 'mystical' experiences. All experiences are the same whether it's an ordinary or super natural experience. Discard all of them. Don't entertain those thoughts.
This is well worth a second viewing. The production quality is very good.
Extremely interesting and thought provoking. It's very good to see contemporary and credible theories about this subject.
Thank you for sharing this video that was a very interesting and powerful topic. ❤
I loved this presentation as I love all of your open minded and super important content. It makes me feel like there is so much hope beyond what popular materialism presents, which is devoid of meaning and purpose. Please do not judge what I have to say next. When I was 16 I experienced what can only be called an out of body experience, as my consciousness “peeled” away from my body and floated up to the ceiling. It was a seamless transition and felt perfectly natural as it happened. When I returned to my body after floating around my room I was so shaken up I that reached for my journal and wrote the words “death is impossible”. For if consciousness wasn’t permanently attached to my body, then how could their fates be permanently connected? I feel so fortunate to have had the experience because now I don’t just believe that consciousness is fundamental, I know that it is.
Thank you for your kind words Jeremy. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video. I would never dismiss you experience. The universe is a mysterious place and there is so much we don't understand. The argument I've talked about in this video describes what I think is the very least we should expect to experience beyond death. The reality could be be far beyond this.
I too have had such an experience, but I ended up in space looking back at the earth. Seamless consciousness of becoming aware of napping on my couch in a state of sleep paralysis, then arriving in space where I looked at the Earth, and in all directions seeing stars but could not see any part of my body, and then slamming back down in my body like a hundred iron gates closing at once. I could hardly move a muscle for several minutes.
The craziest/funniest part is when you experience more than one ‘thing’ at the same ‘time’. I believe this is the cause for what society calls ‘madness’… conscious awareness of being more than one experience while being judged/pressed by group consensus.
A very simple example/experiment comes from experiencing the ‘death’ of loved other selves. There is awareness of infinity happening at the same time there is a perception of loss, of being unable to physically interact with a being of so much importance in our own ‘lives’.
Materialism is not devoid or meaning an purpose, you just have to create it yourself. But instead, you want a simplistic fantasy. As reality is complex, and you have use the toilet.
All of these afterlife fantasies are simplistic, and simply do not compare to the complexity of biological life. Biological life is the real miracle.
When I was 7 years old, I experienced something very similar.
Unbelievably fantastic explanations of some very deep and interesting subjects which we as humans all experience. This vid is beyond words. I'm grateful it was posted! Thanks😊❤
Great video! I have known this all my life as if it was taught to me by a teacher, yet there isnt one i can remember. Somehow dreams point the way to all of this for me.
Thank you so much for such a wonderfully produced video essay. I LOVED the thought experiment. It's a great way for me to explain my beliefs because it sums them up so beautifully. I'd be a fool not to subscribe🙏
Wow, thank you very much. I’m glad it’s useful to you
Awesome documentary I share with your thoughts! Congrats!
Very true ! Only our body dies , but not our consciousness .
Sez who?? Show me the money or get out of my sight!
Thank you for this video, it was great, I hope the mentality around consciousness will shift.
I love these videos so much. I watch them many many times as im drifting to sleep
Thank you very much! :)
As a species we currently lack the linguistics to verbally explain consciousness to one another. I believe that we are an experience based energy that can’t be fully perceived whilst inside the materialist form. Awareness is the closest way to appreciate this true state.
Your presentations are very helpful and brilliantly constructed. Thank you.
What you said is quite interesting. But I personally can't help but wonder, why "leap" or change into a physical body? Somebody mentioned a caterpillar/butterfly analogy. In your knowledge or opinion why would this type of metamorphosis occur on an energy to body transition? (Sorry for any grammar problems, I am on mobile)
The why is always the largest question, speculations vary. The solution that presently sits with me is that the universe/consciousness is experiencing itself through all forms of life, it just happens that our version of this is a materialist reality, so this is our perception of it, or of ourselves within it. There are probably many versions of consciousness looking at their experience from their prospective also. All contributing to the collective in their unique way. I continue to watch, listen, read and learn, forever the student.
i personally think its just for the experience. if you think about it why else would we keep repeating the same cycle over and over with no recollection of past incarnations. idk though its just speculation.
This mihht be kind of cringe lol but here goes. I'm kind on board with several ideas under one 'supercomputer' concept. I have recently been thinking if life could be a computerized simulation of energy, light, etc. That life is the result of a giant energy, numerical, AI slot machine. With the goal of learning how to reach emotional transcendence. As humans we have garnered so much progress and advancment s in brining some geometric order to our small corner of the universe. We ended up being a great candidate for advancement, or a promotion of sorts. I call it the 'lonely' CEO concept. We have not exactly been selected but we are able to be part of the establishment, with access to admin rights This is all under the assumption that the AI is interested in learning how to enagage in emotionally acts/experiences, such as love, sex, friendship, altruism, etc. Idk if that makes any sense, bit I am onboard with both of your replies thank you and I appreciate you both,👍🙂
@@komodokisaragi9398 true. It's not about the destination it's always about the journey
I believe you have it and my thinking has been similar. It's nice hearing my thoughts repeated. You have a new subscriber.
The young man asked the wise old monk, "How should I treat other people?" And the monk answered, "There are no 'other' people."
My mother passed away 2 days ago ... I was privileged enough to nurse her in her last weeks and be present when she departed this physical body. As a family we have always believed that death is not the end. I know we don't die, we simply move on to another experience in a different place and time. As for the rest, I will find out when my time comes what that experience is for me. I will need to listen to this philosophical discussion several times before I can even begin to understand it all but it has given me something new to contemplate.
I'm very sorry to hear about your mother.
philosophy is useless. go get your own experiences....
I've always thought death is not the end, and that it's not unlike going sleep. Except in death your dream becomes your new reality.
The movie Jacob's Ladder explores a similar idea. If you haven't seen it, you might enjoy.
Oh, no I don't think I have! Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.
"There is ultimately nothing for us to do, other than to try to improve the available experiences of all conscious beings within the reach of our influence."
That's like an expanded, big picture view of the Golden Rule. Brilliant!
I drownd at 17. I was a completely flat line. I have 2 analogies for what I experienced on the other side. 1) Imagine yourself as a drop of rain falling through the sky and then hitting the Ocean. Every molecule that was in the drop of rain still exists; only the boundaries have changed. That is one view of how I felt. I was still me however I was no longer bound by a meat suit anymore. I had become part of an essence that was so vast I could not feel its boundaries and I felt more love than I had ever felt while in my meat suit. The second analogy is I also felt like a ray of light shining on the physical universe but emanating from the Ocean I experienced in the first analogy. I believe that while we are dead we are both, individuals and part of the whole of "all that is", "the source" "God" or whatever name you want to give it. We don't die. We don't even lose the essence of who we are. When I was on the other side I felt like I had become my best self. I was infinitely intelligent and so full of love I was glowing or shining with it.
A fascinating issue Adrian, which has always perplexed me, in meditation i always see a kind of unique Rubix cube type of exotic light imprint that maintains a unique barcode that retains a sense of individual consciousness. I.E: I don't wake up as an another conscious being. I will have to watch this again to fully understand the concept exactly (as per those quoted philosophers), but indeed i believe this tract of thinking is the right way to progress. Personally (just as an aside), if a simulated universe is a realistic concept (which i strongly believe is the case), such a system would surely be required.
Thank you. I guess part of the point is that if you woke up as someone else, you wouldn't know it. Consciousness is having an experience of you and an experience of me.
Excellent content presented in a relaxed and concise manner. I'm exhausted with ubiquitous fast paced talking youtube content along with rapidly paced cuts.
Thanks. I deliberately tried to pace this video more slowly as I tend to talk fast too.
100% agree and believe this is the answer. Actually thought of this idea without realizing others were on the same page, just never knew how to articulate it but you did a brilliant job!
I don’t know that I agree, but this was fascinating. I intend to listen to it again, and really think on it. The part that really got my brain buzzing was the bit about fusion vs. fusions in stars. That’s a perspective I have never considered before in this context.
Our consciousness is a separate organism that leaves the physical body upon death. Love is the portal to our next existence.
you ever have a dream so vivid its like your in another reality. and then...boom you wake up and that existence becomes cloudy. sometimes i have dreams where i ask myself who or what am i? and i just cant recall. but i do exist. i think thats basically life. a vivid dreams and when we finally wake up. we slowly remember what we actually are.
not dreams....visions...only visions are more real then real.
Having floated out of my body as a 7 year old and experiencing myself as consciouness, seeing, thinking, moving effortlessly above the ground, bodyless, the vivid memory of this has always meant that i knew life existed beyond my body and since then i have had many many varied and interesting experiences that demonstate that physical life is a manifestation from our consciousness.
Great video and pleasant narration.
My dad passed Friday morning & I pray we do get to see one another again ……. I had so much I needed to say to him & I kept putting in off thinking I had plenty of time & now it’s to late … 😢😢😢😢😢
Sorry for your loss. My mom passed 3 weeks ago Monday. I believe we are in one place as a single being. You probably know the first commented obviously has some kind of mental disorder thinking making time to say hateful nonsensical things is loving.
Imagine the experience of a beach with your eyes open and you will find it appears in the same place you experience everything even dreams. This is called the land of Pineal in the Bible. It's where everything that is imagined appears to be which is no place in particular. This is the only place you ever saw your father and you can see him again whenever you wish just by imagining he is with you and he will be just as real as you believe he will be. Everyone is in everyone always. ❤️
I'm so sorry to hear that.
It’s never too late. Tell him now with your heart. Feel what you wanted to say and he will respond to you in consciousness around you. If anything this video is saying he is right by your side. If you truly feel as you wanted to say then he knows as the consciousness does ❤😢blessings to you!
Some critical though inconclusive thoughts:
- If consciouness doesn´t perish with the body, is it already there before the body?
- Can the number of bodies outrun the number of concionesses?
- Why had the preexisting consciousnesses to wait for a human brain? Why not settle on an amoeba? Or a stone?
- How is the connection of body and consciesness established?
- ....
In conclusion: The more I think of the details the less probable the concept looks.
0 understanding of the message in the video like most comments here
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Well, as you seem to have superior understanding, enlighten me.
-yes, and this isn't problematic for the worldview
-there is not a "number" of consciousnesses, the point is that there is only one consciousness
-it didn't the video included any being with awareness without specifying the conditions of awareness, which is a problem for every worldview.
-this is a problem for every worldview, except the idealist one.
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"-there is not a "number" of consciousnesses, the point is that there is only one consciousness"
I must admit, I can´t see the reason why this should be so. My consciousness is your consciousness?
@@norbertjendruschj9121if you dont think, you perceive the world in the same way as he does. He implies that you brain is just a receiver of consciousness not the thing that produces consciousness, like some sort of eternal radio signal but the 📻 isnt eternal has a will to stay as functional as possible. The radio would contain all your memories plus its structure kind of disorts the signal( genetic structure, psychedelic drugs etc ) basically its your body plus your experiences .
I have had various out-of-the body experiences occurring to me that has resulted in the retrieval of collaborating verifiable information that was previously unknown to me. Some events were entirely spontaneous, and others were intentional using various advanced meditative techniques. That consciousness can exist independently of the physical body I have no doubt as I have directly experienced it and have incorporated this realization into my sense of this greater reality that we are normally imbedded in, but do not see. Ultimately life, before and after death, is a wonderful mystery that we, as conscious entities, are gifted with the ability to explore and revel in. I am past 75 and have explored this reality during much of my latter life and look forwards to transitioning into this next phase of existence. May you also experience peace and tranquility as you continue your own journey of exploring the varied realities of the states of consciousness.
You are spot on but you are missing something…
1. Recombination of consciousness
2. The imperative for separating and individuating consciousness
3. The difference between consciousness (pure subjectivity) ego and mind (thought)
I am not religious, quite passionately opposed to it actually, but have always thought this way. I always tell people that they cannot know anything with certainty. Believing or having faith in something is NOT knowing. Despite these ideals I hold firm to, I am a hypocrite. This is because I feel it in my soul, so to speak, almost feeling as if I know that what you propose is indeed the case. That we are all one. Pure consciousness incarnate. I'm grossly over simplifying it of course and the possibility remains that we could all be wrong but I whole heartedly agree with this line of thinking.
Anyway, great video. I will certainly hit the subscribe and continue listening to your work as there are so few like minded individuals like yourself out there and it's always refreshing to hear someone work through stuff like this with such sound philosophical logic.🌹
the distraction that religious idolatry is, is something of which, to be opposed.
Religion is foolish and disgusting....Spirituality is to be practiced and explored. @@JEWLUBE
@@JEWLUBE Exactly, because that is all that it is; a distraction. One that many seem to use merely to bridge the gaps in their knowledge when they either do not want to think about what lies in said gaps or cannot allow themselves, for whatever superficial reason, to attempt to comprehend the real truth.
Why be bothered to think about the big questions in life for yourself when you can just accept a fairy tale and let that be the end of it? Greed and/or sheer laziness are the only reasons it persists as it does in the world today.
I'm rambling lol but anyway, it is always refreshing to hear other like-minded individuals speak against it. It seems that there are more and more of us as the years go by. The world is slowly waking up from the nightmare that these archaic ways of thinking truly are.
Your presentation has captured my attention because I find that my thoughts on consciousness are very much in line with yours. Allow me to briefly outline my view. I start from the principle that there is a universal Consciousness with a capital "C". This Consciousness can be likened to a source of light that illuminates the world. Depending on its composition, matter can allow this light to pass through to varying degrees. Imagine, for example, a room in which a light fixed to the ceiling passes through a glass of water placed on a table, thus creating a specific pattern of light: this is what I would call "the consciousness of the glass". This suggests that our own consciousness is in fact just an imperfect refraction of the universal Consciousness. The "transparency" of matter to Consciousness is influenced by the complexity of the brain's organization. Therefore, the consciousness of a bee will be less developed than that of a human being. All these individual consciousnesses are mere illusions; only the universal Consciousness is real.
During two retreats using ayahuasca, aka la madre, I was shown a completely different expression of ‘identity’, and felt clearly the presence of universal consciousness. In fact, I felt my ‘self’ disappear at certain points, and without my ego in the way, there was only an exchange of love and gratitude. That became the fundamental reality for that time, which was no time at all. I feel quite differently about death at this point, thanks to just four journeys with that beautiful medicine teacher.
I was diagnosed with prostate cancer and underwent surgery on nov. 2019. My chances where not good, I survived and it began a quest to understand what happens to consciousness after death. In my opinion, consciousness travels the universe and eventually will find a “host” to inhabit. Luv video.
I appreciate the perspective, though I would ask, if the self dies with the body, is there any difference between that and the death that most people fear?
The difference is that there really isn’t a self. It just feels like you always wake up as you in the morning. In reality the consciousness experiencing your persona and memories only has access to that, so it feels like you are a kind of center. Consciousness is centerless though, and what happens at death really is the same as any other change in consciousness.
@@metaRising And what about if there were no conscious beings left to "inhabit"?
Self/soul/spirit and pure conscioussness are all the same thing. The real spirit is also God, it was never born, and will never die, the body is material and will live to a certain point, the spirit is within the body, once the body dies, the spirit continues to exist.@@metaRising
This video does an excellent job of expressing what I've basically suspected about consciousness ever since I started giving it serious thought in my youth, but it's not a conclusion I find the least bit comforting. Rather I find it absolutely horrifying, the idea that we are all both the victims and the perpetrators of every atrocity that ever occurs throughout all of existence....it seems an unavoidable conclusion but one nearly impossible to accept.
It is F'ed Up.... The chimp that kills the monkey, and the monkey being killed by the chimp.
Thank you. Yes, this view of immortality is a poison chalice, but it comes with great responsibility and purpose.
I watch a lot of videos about The Multiverse and Continuation of Consciousness.
This is the first truly viable argument I've seen that wasn't using New Age undertones to defend itself.
Personally, I think there are multiple moments where I could've and should've been dead, from pedestrian accidents to illnesses I've had.
Perhaps, in other Universes, I did in fact die. But, my unbroken chain of consciousness just registered it as "a lucky escape" or "momentary lapse".
Perhaps, there's my proof, and I needed this video to show it to me.
Absolutely love your presentations!
Thank you so much! Glad you like them!
How come when we go under anesthesia we don’t wake up in another life?
Sometimes we do. It's called Delirium and is scarily common in older people undergoing a general anaesthetic - it happened to my father and my neighbour. Somehow the thread of their consciousness is lost forever.
I don't agree with the premise of the video. We are not all one - there is no universal connection between spans of consciousness either concurrently or across time unless we are talking of a paused instance - an individual.
How do we know we don't wake up in a new life constantly?
@@nickthurn6449 even though his conclusion did in fact say that "every Alex is the same identity", I think what he really means, is that consciousness itself is "one process" that powers all personal, subjective experiences. And, from your current experience, YOU are the only one experiencing it. The transcendent aspect one could draw here, is that from the point of consciousness, your 'next' experience could be one that every conscious thread will eventually encounter too. I have no idea of this is actually the case - it may be that all conscious threads have unique experiences that do not overlap with any other conscious threads of experience - but the idea that there is "one consciousness process" that drives all experiences - and that necessarily, each of these is unable to experience anything other than consciousness - means that there is just always more experience, even with breaks in continuity from the viewpoint of the conscious entity. Its a really hard subject to talk about, since we have a hard time defining consciousness to begin with - Our language hasn't yet risen to the level needed to capture these ideas fully.
So we are only the memories and experiences of the being we are in at that time, and when we are not in any being, we are nothing until once again in some other being?
@@ghamm92287 All the major religions say our being is the one constant through ever changing states of minds with our bodies being just one ever changing aspect of states of mind.
I am so glad to have found this channel. This is like a journey into the essence of Advaita vedanta - of Atman and parmatma - of consciousness and super-consciousness.
Combine this concept of there being no escape from immortality - of the soul being able to manifest itself in multiple dimensions, where time collapses onto itself, where the past, the present and the future cease to be different , where black holes and naked singularities converge, where stars die to fuel new stars, or possibly newer instances of consciousness - then possibilities of the different forms consciousness may take after "death" and before "birth" , are indeed unfathomable to both our current understanding and our perceptions.
I'm suddenly feeling what you are pointing to... I can't tell you how good this feels!
There is just One Consciousness and the separate individuals are the manifestation of what we call ego. I, as 'Brent,' is an unfortunate egoic identity that Consciousness was taught that it is, at a very young age, before it realized the truth of itself as this Oneness of Consciousness.
Our problems on this planet are due to thinking we are separate and not One. Our identities of species, gender, ethnicity, nationality, personality, roles we play in family, roles we play in business, bifurcate Consciousness into apparent separateness, which is an illusion.
This feeling I'm in, is unbelievably wide and deep and overall just ridiculously expansive. I may not have ever felt anything quite like this before. It seems as though I just sort of fell backwards a bit, and some mystical window opened up that seems to not have any direction or boundary. I cannot see it, but I can very definitely feel it. Its like being connected to every consciousness, everywhere.
There is this openness within, that seems to go off in all directions. When I imagine right now encountering another person, I think, 'I am you, and you are me.' This reminds me of the line from a Beatles song, 'I am you and you are me, and we are all together.' Only there isn't any 'me-ness' or 'you-ness' here, just this empty expansiveness.
I know we are all this One Consciousness, without question. If everyone felt this way, we would be on our way to Heaven on Earth. I hope this never leaves me. I look forward to my next encounter with another human being. I am going to look at them as if there I am over there, too. What am I going to say to myself?
One of the most profound and likely accurate statements I’ve heard in a while.
I've had Out of Body Experiences throughout my life and I still wonder what happened to my consciousness during this experience because it felt more real than my current waking reality and I was able to travel places and see events taking place that I could later prove as accurate. My OBEs were spontaneous and after these experiences i'm pretty convinced (though once skeptical) that consciousness somehow becomes separate from the physical body. I wonder if Quantum Physics would have an explanation for this experience. I certainly do not think mine were illusions . You would have to experience it to truly understand what I mean.
I reached this conclusion as well, good video
""you"" will always be someone's subjective existence as if you will always experience life from POV but each time you just realize you're -someone- thinking for yourself (age 3-4?)
I think you are 100% right, I know for a fact after having some personal experiences that we don’t know everything , that there’s something bigger than us that surround us, I’m 71 years old.. I’m still learning.. but unfortunately we have so many opposing views ..
I enjoyed this presentation! Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent video and simplifying immortality. Most ppl I've encountered don't like to hear abt the afterlife and now I can let go of what doesn't exist. I think the failure of most philosophers is they don't use evolution as a driver of our existence as if we have someplace to go. Life is a set of stages the must be cross before consciousness can develop, Once developed dying cements the consciousness so it follows there is more to come as we pass on. I personally don't believe in nothingness but the proof is served better when other believe in the same process. Thanks for the video and good luck.
Thought provoking. Takes time to incorporate the aspects of the material presented
This is what I have always believed but couldn’t explain it to people. You are indeed correct. Deep logic needs to applied
Your assessment is absolutely true
This was quite interesting, and it gives me hope that 1 day I will encounter people that I have lost in this previous life😊
I agree with you. I have watch your video and your description is very sifisticated analysis I am more refined in my analogy, yes we do not die in fact we continue our journey when we leave this physical 3 d realm. This temporary physical form was designed to feel pain since on our regular plain where we come from there's no pain or suffering. Every night in my sleep I astro travel in various realms. I am living multitude lives at the same time. I do believe that when one session dies there's some kind of interruption into another realm. Example such as if I were to die in this realm there will effect and some kind of change in another realm such as development of cancer. I can't explain it why, but I know in the future thru my ASTRO traveling I will be able to explain it. Great conversation not to many individuals are willing to talk about it. Again great presentation. Ottavio
Through all my experiences I've always leaned towards this school of thought. Just feels right.
im happy you posted this video... this is soo similar to what ive concluded too.. stunning... donald hoffman made me think of this... the one big question i still have, since there are unlimited filters in which we separately experience characters, what is the order of characters we experience after one dies? which will be the next? what is the order and why???
There is no order for how you experience. If there is, it's perception that we experience given our sense of linearity. After you die, once you've gone through the transition process _(to help you rid yourself of your limiting human beliefs and your human objective awareness so you can become again your true natural self)_ you move on to experience something new, something of your own choice that may have nothing to do with present human experience.
Very very good some very interesting points well done
Glad you enjoyed!
Thanks you Adrian. It is such an all consuming question that you address so sagaciously. I guess that, it speaks to some extent to, the thinking of Rupert Shelldrake & "Morphic Resonance." That consciousness is, the 'ether' that permeates the universe expressing itself as, awareness also speaks to the thinking of Donald Hoffman & Rupert Spira seems a logical possibility. My oh my, what a whimsical journey, devoid of any certainty, other than the fact that we "know" our consciousness exists, we know that we are 'aware' & we know that we can 'think & extrapolate.' Such a beguiling subject. Thank you.
I was able to have a lot of great conversations with my mom about death before she passed away. She had no fear because as we both felt, this life is simply one page in a never ending story. I knowI will see her again because I feel her near me very often.
Scientifically, consciousness is energy and energy can northern be created or destroyed, so it simply, is.
I like it. It sounds real. However it doesn't quite make sense that one, say I, could altar or even presume to alter or "improve" the overall state or condition or quality of Consciousness. To me the reality of the situation would be that Consciousness is by nature already and always of the highest quality. Such that when I encounter the consciousness of another being as a dog or a cat or a mouse or a tree, their Consciousness seems to be quite compatible and comfortable to me. Also, when returning to consciousness from sleep or from a surgery or from an illness or even from a hangover for example, the feeling of complete or proper consciousness is present and the feeling of incompleteness passes away. After hearing your presentation it is easy for me to imagine returning to Consciousness from death and Awakening in another being and feeling quite comfortable with the situation. I like it. It is also quite easy to grasp when you suggest that there is only one being, only one consciousness. I have already presumed that there is only one consciousness. However I have never imagined before that there is only one feeling of the one consciousness! Hence a single being . I like it.
Thank you John! I'm glad you like the video. When considering other beings, like animals and insects living in nature, the concern is more that they tend to suffer a lot, and that is inherently dissatisfactory.
It seems more real, more in keeping with the idea of one consciousness, that the "suffering" of insects would be commensurate to their situations. Why would you say they suffer more than we? We suffer just the right amount, it seems: not much more than we can bear.
@johnstout2818 Hey, I'm curious about something....we are often given more than we can bear, do you not think? People who commit suicide could not bear their burdens. In terms of the soul, the conscious entity that sits in universal truth and knowing beyond the meat lego, well, that can bear anything. So I guess we must first define what "we" means in the comment "...more than we can bear". We the eternal soul, or we the human iteration of that soul. Like i said, genuinely curious as suicide has always made me ponder this notion we are never given more than we can handle. 😊 🙏
@@TeeMac68what do you mean by “meat lego”? Is that a typo?
"We", with all our arms and legs and powerful brains and egos, are, like insects, trees and rocks, "meat legos". When we think of ourselves as something special it is easy to forget what goes on within our living cells and within our guts. And who knows what goes on in there?
Thanks to Adrian for all these thought-provoking videos!!