The Quirks of German Wolfenstein 3D (feat. Rebecca Heineman)

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  • @GermanPeter
    @GermanPeter  Рік тому +201

    Really hope you enjoy this one! If you do, please consider sharing it with others :) There's a lot more Wolfenstein videos coming (a LOT lot), so I hope you're just as excited for those as I am!
    *Edit:* the manual states the Fake Hitlers say "Tot Hund" (Dead dog), and I can hear that, but that's grammatically incorrect (should be "Toter Hund"). It also claims Gretel DOES say "Mein Buße", but again, makes no sense.
    Please also consider supporting me directly on Patreon, it really helps. www.patreon.com/GermanPeter
    "The Quirks of German X"-playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLhdfQQ4ZlxtqTyILsce_b0P8pBoexfKFv.html
    Wolfenstein 3D voice lines video: ua-cam.com/video/VhctmeEebVo/v-deo.html
    The Old Blood Nightmare levels: ua-cam.com/video/9R468-smrNg/v-deo.html

    • @GlebyGlobster
      @GlebyGlobster Рік тому

      Hi

    • @GlebyGlobster
      @GlebyGlobster Рік тому

      I like your videos

    • @katnotcattt
      @katnotcattt Рік тому +1

      I feel like the intent was to have her say something like "I repent!" and the ID boys just didn't know how to say it in German.

    • @Mentelgen-1337
      @Mentelgen-1337 Рік тому

      if i could add my 2 cents. i would be really interested to see the german version of dishonored!
      i would be gladfull to see the voice of the outsider from dishonored 1. the trailer (which was regional translated) said the game has a bigger name Dishonored: maske des zorns.

    • @lizzya.2861
      @lizzya.2861 Рік тому

      Could you do a video about The Secret of Monkey Island at any point in time? I don’t know why, but Germany seems to love that franchise.

  • @mfaizsyahmi
    @mfaizsyahmi Рік тому +525

    I find it ironic that dogs were replaced, because the German law that prohibits animal cruelty was directly from Herr Mustachio himself, and dogs were his favourite animal.

    • @DrewPicklesTheDark
      @DrewPicklesTheDark Рік тому +13

      Your comment about Mr. Mustache has 88 likes...

    • @drakesilverwing7088
      @drakesilverwing7088 Рік тому +17

      Can you feel the hypocrisy?

    • @tylercoon1791
      @tylercoon1791 Рік тому +23

      Irony so thick you could cut it with a knife and spread it on toast

    • @evelynlumihame7814
      @evelynlumihame7814 Рік тому +21

      a broken clock's right twice a day.
      well, significantly less often in this case, but still.

    • @evelynlumihame7814
      @evelynlumihame7814 Рік тому +23

      "You know who _else_ liked [dogs]? HITLER."

  • @nicotam8745
    @nicotam8745 Рік тому +470

    I find it funny how they couldnt include blood because it wasn't kid friendly but then in kirbys dreamland 3 the final boss is literally a bleeding eyeball

    • @daskampffredchen
      @daskampffredchen Рік тому +30

      Nah. That was Strawberry Jam

    • @AquaFan1998
      @AquaFan1998 Рік тому +11

      ​@@daskampffredchen no. Its borsh

    • @ConsarnitTokkori
      @ConsarnitTokkori Рік тому +23

      and then that eyeball came back, bloodier and eyeballier
      and then an unrelated character was retconned into being so edgy his wrists slit themselves
      and then another unrelated character got gradually lobotomized by a machine, had his soul killed, his body taken over, and had both of them and the machine that lobotomized him before and took over him a few seconds ago killed at least two more times, partially because his daughter scammed him wrong
      and then yet another unrelated character saved three unrelated characters from death and possibly suicide, went insane, gaslit the three into sacrificing a lot of things, used their almost dead bodies as meat shields and bludgeoning tools and then sacrificed them and himself
      and a while before all that, a tangentially related character developed clinical depression because he opened the world's ass to a bunch of nukes
      kirb lore is kid friendly

    • @shirleymaemattthews4862
      @shirleymaemattthews4862 Рік тому +9

      @@ConsarnitTokkori I mean, it's from Japan. And besides, kids love dark stuff.

    • @ConsarnitTokkori
      @ConsarnitTokkori Рік тому +3

      @@shirleymaemattthews4862 i would know, i accidentally led an old classmate into the wadanohara rabbit hole when she was 14

  • @CatsT.M
    @CatsT.M Рік тому +662

    -Wow, X is my favourite game, I had no idea there was a German version.-

    • @hippokrampus2838
      @hippokrampus2838 Рік тому +66

      I preferred it's sequel XX, but was sad to hear that the sequel's sequel got banned in Germany...

    • @Crusader6809
      @Crusader6809 Рік тому +9

      @@Epicgamer19382ayo

    • @cole009productions7
      @cole009productions7 Рік тому +1

      @@Epicgamer19382 smooth one

    • @buzzlightyer2948
      @buzzlightyer2948 Рік тому +5

      ​@@Epicgamer19382 wasn't that one called Xrd

    • @generallyunimportant
      @generallyunimportant Рік тому +2

      @@buzzlightyer2948 no, i'm pretty sure that one was called "the bad spin-off that looks like a joke compared to the first two movies"

  • @Scypek
    @Scypek Рік тому +208

    I know the origin of Schabbs's name! It's explained in the official wolf3d hintbook. Apparently it's derived from an in-joke they had at the time, where they'd come up with various neologisms centered around the word "shabby", such as "shabbitude" for the state of being shabby or "shabbitations" for shabby places. I guess they replaced the h with ch to make it more German.

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +40

      Oh yeah, I remember that! That makes much more sense.

  • @duuqnd
    @duuqnd Рік тому +569

    At this point I would be more shocked to hear if Rebecca Heineman *hasn't* worked on something, by now I'm convinced she's had something to do with everything

    • @TheBcoolGuy
      @TheBcoolGuy Рік тому +53

      SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

    • @fnjesusfreak
      @fnjesusfreak Рік тому +32

      I knew she worked on the Apple IIgs version (which iirc has actual German voice acting!) - figured she might've been involved with the 3DO version - didn't know she worked on the SNES version too.

    • @Chuked
      @Chuked Рік тому +11

      Shes a legend

    • @michaelsmart7445
      @michaelsmart7445 Рік тому +27

      She basically single-handedly made the 3D0 Doom port. It was a goddamn Herculean effort that it even exista due to her boss' (forgot his name) complete and utter ignorance at how to create a game at the time.

    • @SwedishEmpire1700
      @SwedishEmpire1700 Рік тому +9

      Burger Bill Heineman

  • @3546546547
    @3546546547 Рік тому +306

    Japan has an interesting history of Hitler censorship.
    Persona 2 just dropped him in the game wholesale, but the western releases gave him sunglasses and called him "Der Fuhrer." The moustache is still there though.

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +194

      Should have turned him into a wolf and called him "Der Furrer".
      No wait, that'd attract the wrong kind of people, I take it back.

    • @masterofbloopers
      @masterofbloopers Рік тому +50

      @@GermanPeter Funny you should make that joke. Atlus, the makers of Persona, made a WWII game called Operation Darkness that had British soldiers turn into werewolves. It was a weird game.

    • @techmark3665
      @techmark3665 Рік тому +16

      It was changed in the psp version for both the Japanese and Western versions. The psx original version of innocent sin was never released in the west, and eternal punishment never had Hitler in the first place.

    • @rickwong9049
      @rickwong9049 Рік тому

      ​@@GermanPeter There is a furry-themed WW2 AH dating simulation game. Of course its titled 'Furry H**ler'

    • @tammid8423
      @tammid8423 Рік тому +23

      ​@@GermanPeter That way it wouldn't be Persona, it would be Fursona 💀

  • @zachary3756
    @zachary3756 Рік тому +347

    The quirks of German Wolfenstein:
    Thanks for watching!

  • @Swerver416
    @Swerver416 Рік тому +242

    Holly shit didn't expect to see Burger Becky here. She is a legend

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +65

      The legendest legend that ever legended.

    • @Nevada2107
      @Nevada2107 Рік тому

      @@GermanPeter True

    • @SomeOrangeCat
      @SomeOrangeCat Рік тому +6

      She created my gateway drug to MS-Dos RPGs "Dragon Wars".

    • @PankoBreading
      @PankoBreading Рік тому +4

      ​@@GermanPeterthe favorite developer of your favorite developer

  • @lucat5211
    @lucat5211 Рік тому +130

    Ive only found this channel a few months back, but its got one of the nicest editing styles and most interesting videogame topics. I love it!

  • @amaruqlonewolf3350
    @amaruqlonewolf3350 Рік тому +8

    The reason behind Dr. Schabbs name is actually stated in the official strategy guide. On one of the page's trivia sections, the writer mentions that it's an inside word at Id Software, which they used whenever they would be referring to something undesirable.

  • @_Mr.Alien_
    @_Mr.Alien_ Рік тому +39

    "Yuckyball" is now my favorite nickname for the Cacodemon.

  • @NoobixCube
    @NoobixCube Рік тому +117

    "Protecting children from Nazi imagery" has probably had the opposite effect. The part of Australia in which I grew up, schools avoided any mention of the events and ideologies around WW2 until we were 16. not everyone stayed in school that long, and even then, WW2 only came up in an _elective_ subject, modern history. This wasn't about keeping us away from war, no, we hear about WW1, particularly Gallipoli, every year from the age of 5. Up to the age of 16, my only knowledge of WW2 was that the Germans had way cooler guns, tanks, and aircraft. The town I grew up in is _full_ of Nazis now. I'm not being hyperbolic, here (maybe with the word "full", since it's not literally everyone, but not with the "Nazis"). I don't mean fiscal conservatives who also hate the gays. I mean there's plenty of folks with Iron Cross and Valknut tattoos when they think they're being clever, and SS tattoos when they lack even that much imagination. Most people can't tell the difference between a random skull and cross-bones and the Totenkopf unit insignia, but to the keen eye, there's plenty of those tattoos there, too.
    My point is, you shelter kids from the _realities_ of WW2, and you just make a new generation of Nazis. They turn to the History Channel for their education, and all you see there is "NEXT ON NAZI SUPER-WEAPONS!" and episodes of Ancient Aliens that work very hard to reinforce the idea that brown people couldn't possibly have built impressive things so it MUST have been aliens. Maybe if we'd taught kids in the 80s and 90s why they were shooting Nazis we wouldn't have the Nazis back, now.
    I've mentioned the Bad Thing and the Bad People several times in this comment, so I'll be surprised if UA-cam lets it see the light of day.

    • @jackpijjin4088
      @jackpijjin4088 9 місяців тому +25

      "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it."
      Perfect example right here.

    • @spyczech
      @spyczech 3 місяці тому +3

      Really well said, I hesitate to try and laugh off fascists and ignore them because you have to know your enemy and keep an eye on them. I suspect 30s Germans were also writing them off as piss babies who are best not given attention but that's not enough somestimes

    • @tuamaputanna2897
      @tuamaputanna2897 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@spyczech Just a reminder, that word comes from the italian ideology, not the german one. The littori's fasces are an etrurian symbol that has been reused by mussolini to represent "justice" and to "bring back the old ways".
      it's a different ideology, As much as they are similarly bad, they both had very different approaches and ideals.

    • @blakegriplingph
      @blakegriplingph 2 місяці тому +1

      It's the same impetus for releasing uncensored Looney Tunes collections for older animation enthusiasts. They know that some of the scenes are questionable if not downright abhorrent, yet censoring them out is plain denialism; leaving them as is should remind people that not everything is uptight in Golden Era USA where "traditional values" is king-at least to white Anglo-Saxon people.

    • @spyczech
      @spyczech 2 місяці тому

      ​@@tuamaputanna2897 Whatcha mean by just a reminder? "it's a different ideology"
      are you trying to say german nationalsocialism wasn't fascist? or I should have to preface that? Or just a patronizing "reminder" for the sake of?

  • @gimpscam9976
    @gimpscam9976 Рік тому +19

    I love seeing marphy black appear in videos. Such an underrated person and UA-camr. They’re ridiculously knowledgeable in so many older games it’s crazy

  • @matthewsteele99
    @matthewsteele99 Рік тому +17

    21:53
    interesting to note that BJ's arms while shooting are using his old cutting room floor brown jumpsuit that was changed to grey in the release version

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +7

      Yeah, I noticed that too. But only for the SMG for some reason.

  • @comradebusman3
    @comradebusman3 Рік тому +46

    The civvie references caught me off guard every time.
    It's so cool that you got an actual developer to interview! And of course it's always entertaining to see the changes. Also, "Nazis are only good for punching" is a quote I will use now. I usually say "Time to engage in the all-american passtime, killin nazis!" when I play WW2 related games like wolfenstien or sniper elite because I find it fun to say.

  • @fasola964
    @fasola964 Рік тому +68

    18:25 You forgot about Super 3-D Noah's Ark, a modified wolfenstein 3D where instead of killing nazis, you're putting animals to sleep by throwing fruits at them.

    • @Blankult
      @Blankult Рік тому +2

      It ain't wolf 3d at all

    • @fasola964
      @fasola964 Рік тому +4

      @@Blankult but its made on wolf3D engine

    • @Blankult
      @Blankult Рік тому +6

      @@fasola964 And that's it. It's a whole different game. It's like saying your favorite wolf3d version is ROTT.

    • @fasola964
      @fasola964 Рік тому

      @@Blankult ok, i get it.

    • @generallyunimportant
      @generallyunimportant Рік тому +15

      @@Blankult my favorite doom version is chex quest

  • @terrorban0
    @terrorban0 Рік тому +16

    this video is insane. a full ass 33 minute video with full editing and research yet you only have 83k subs? that's honestly crazy. you earned a sub

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +5

      Well, thanks to you, I'm getting there! Thanks!

  • @guyrocketram9698
    @guyrocketram9698 Рік тому +133

    rebecca heineman radiates such WINE aunt energy lol. really cool person glad you had her on the show!

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +34

      I hope you mean WINE aunt!

    • @guyrocketram9698
      @guyrocketram9698 Рік тому +12

      @@GermanPeter oh no im soooo sorry 😭please forgive me!!!!!!!!! *turns into dust*

    • @kilgoretrout4491
      @kilgoretrout4491 Рік тому +3

      what did you originally say?

    • @guyrocketram9698
      @guyrocketram9698 Рік тому +14

      @@kilgoretrout4491 whine aunt lol. whine as in crying or complaining. it wasnt intentional.

  • @kassarc16
    @kassarc16 Рік тому +10

    You know, from a certain point of view, removing full depictions of old Hittie and his crew from being killable enemies indicates killing them is bad.

    • @MouldMadeMind
      @MouldMadeMind 2 місяці тому

      West-Germany certainly thought so.

  • @gimok2k5
    @gimok2k5 Рік тому +32

    "Let's begin with the very first title" *starts with the third title*
    Guess "Castle Wolfenstein" and "Beyond Castle Wolfenstein" were not actually affected in any way, then?

    • @sletter1100
      @sletter1100 Рік тому +8

      they were completely banned until a couple of years ago

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +52

      I mean... they were banned. What else do you want me to say? :D Also, they're not commonly counted among the Wolfenstein games. When you talk about the Mario series, you also don't start at Mario Bros. and Donkey Kong.

    • @generallyunimportant
      @generallyunimportant Рік тому +2

      @@GermanPeter i wanted to say that i do, but then realized you're specifically talking about Mario Bros. and not _Super_ Mario Bros., lmao

  • @Ihaveagasmask
    @Ihaveagasmask Рік тому +8

    5:30 wait tf2 takes place in late 60s to Early 70s and medic is around 40 SO WHERE WAS HE IN WW2

    • @TheBreakingBenny
      @TheBreakingBenny 9 місяців тому +1

      I assume his parents moved to the US.

    • @prismavoid3764
      @prismavoid3764 2 місяці тому +1

      I don't think it's explicitly confirmed where he is/what he was doing, but it was stated by a writer that Medic was not a Nazi

  • @ShallowVA
    @ShallowVA Рік тому +22

    Speaking of physical merch, the Wolfenstein miniatures/boardgame use a combination of the uncensored story with the recent Bethesda censored aesthetics. So Mecha Hitler is there, but also all the swastikas and iron crosses have been replaced with the triangle symbol from the German New Colosssus. Which I really don’t mind because I kind of don’t want to spend my hobby time painting a bunch of swastikas on my toy soldiers.
    Pretty sure the eagle graphics replacement in New Order is the old dramatic chipmunk meme!
    Pretty cool that you got Burger Becky on! Absolute legend!

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +7

      Oh yeah, the board game! I saw that, but it's not out yet. Definitely will have to get my hands on it, I love the new re-imaginations of the characters.
      And I can see the dramatic chipmunk in there, but it doesn't explain the tail. OH! Maybe it's a reference to the mutant rats from the SNES port??? I gotta find someone who worked on the game and ask them.

    • @ShallowVA
      @ShallowVA Рік тому +2

      @@GermanPeter The board game is out! At least I have a copy, although I backed it on kickstarter... maybe it's not in retail yet. In any case, it makes sense to go for a single design since it's pretty expensive to have a whole separate production process for a censored version. It's one thing to do that for a videogame, but with physical goods like injection-molded plastic and rule books, that's an enormous hurdle. And even though Wolfenstein games are okay now, I have no idea how Germany feels about Nazi imagery in toys, collectibles, and boardgames. Probably not too favorable!
      For the most part the characters use MachineGames era designs that were already created for those games, but they created brand new designs for some of the series' older characters like Hans Grosse and Fettgesicht so they would match. Pretty cool!

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +4

      @@ShallowVA I'm completely fine with the missing Nazi imagery, because it makes it a bit less iffy for me to actually collect these figurines. Guess I am also fine with having a Hitle- I mean Staatmeister figurine then :D Gotta get my hands on it for sure!
      Just wish they didn't use the triangle symbol, I'd have much preferred the older Wolfenstein logo that they used in RTCW and Wolfenstein 2009. The triangle just seems lame to me.

    • @ShallowVA
      @ShallowVA Рік тому +3

      @@GermanPeter For sure, I really don't need Nazi symbols on my toys, and the miniatures hobby has enough problems with right-wing weirdos as it is without the perceived encouragement. Personally, I like the triangle as an in-universe symbol for the Fascists Who Shall Not Be Named. In RTCW they look like they're advertising the very game that they are in! I guess it would make sense for guards at Castle Wolfenstein itself to have the winged W symbol, like maybe that's their thing, but Wolfenstein isn't really that important to the faction as a whole.
      I've been kind of hoping they eventually bring back Staatmeister as his own character! The series is definitely goofy enough for something like that to happen.

  • @gardonramsanowski4618
    @gardonramsanowski4618 Рік тому +112

    I was wondering, in German schools how much did they teach you about nazism, ww2 etc. I’ve heard that in Japan there is a lot of censorship and propaganda around imperial Japan and WW2 and I assumed it was different in Germany

    • @sumfagola
      @sumfagola Рік тому

      They go into depth explaining what happened and shun the Nazi Party.

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +179

      Mandatory to teach, and I think it's required to visit a concentration camp too. That's what we did, anyway. Germany doesn't shy away from teaching its dark history, and for good reason.

    • @rGunti
      @rGunti Рік тому +25

      Even the neighbours aren't safe. Over here in Switzerland, pretty much all of later education (Grade 7+), WW1+2 are almost the whole curriculum of the subject "History". (I might have exaggerated a bit, but I can't remember anything else that I was taught in school within that subject.)

    • @gardonramsanowski4618
      @gardonramsanowski4618 Рік тому +44

      @@GermanPeter I think that’s the best approach to take, as it would probably help against such movements from gaining any support in the future. That’s why I’ve always found it strange that Japan still denies so many atrocities committed by them in ww2. However, it is interesting to know how they are dealt with in Germany

    • @gardonramsanowski4618
      @gardonramsanowski4618 Рік тому +16

      @@rGunti maybe it’s because it’s relatively recent history and both wars were really impactful in modern European history? Because even growing up in the UK a huge emphasis is put on ww1/ww2 in our history lessons and even though we were taught older history, it was way less prevalent

  • @Vinnie-Gattz
    @Vinnie-Gattz Рік тому +15

    I wish I could have a full list of those toddler Doom monster names, lol. Horsie-monster and Yuckyball had me cracking up.

    • @takenakasan3933
      @takenakasan3933 Рік тому +9

      When DOOM first came out my lil sis would watch me play DOOM and She was the same way; not scared , made up names for the monsters. My favorite was She called the Revenants "Macarena Skeletons" lol

  • @smollmoth6376
    @smollmoth6376 Рік тому +11

    Idk if like everyone else is already saying this but the red cross is weirdly strict with its copyright on the red cross, idk if this matches up time wise, but doom for instance also had to change its red cross symbol in some ports

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +5

      Oh yeah, I think I'll talk about that in the Doom episodes!

  • @justanothercreator2858
    @justanothercreator2858 Рік тому +14

    Weiter so Peter! Mal wieder ein echt qualitativ hochwertiges Video von dir. Eigentlich wollte ich in Englisch schreiben - aber ich denke, dass es das etwas persönlicher macht. 🎉

  • @mr.pavone9719
    @mr.pavone9719 Рік тому +3

    I was stationed in Germany from '92-'96. In about '93 I was dating a girl from Luxembourg. She came to my post one weekend and she saw us playing the US version of Wolf3D and she was totally shocked when she saw the uncensored version of the game.

  • @Hypernova99
    @Hypernova99 Рік тому +7

    Fun fact: To censor the wolfenstien levels in doom 2 some ports straight up remove the map. In doing so using the cheat IDCLEV 31 or IDCLEV 32 in those versions crash the game because the levels still exist in code but the maps have been removed, thus the game tries to load the maps but since there are no maps the game doesn't know what to do and crashes.

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine Рік тому +2

      They left the secret exit in Map 15 when they did this, so you can be rewarded with your game crashing without even using cheats.

  • @alessandro6885
    @alessandro6885 Рік тому +4

    Burger Becky! I’ve played a good handful of your console ports as a kid since I grew up on the SNES and SEGA Genesis despite being born in 98. I’ve also played some of your ports to the 3DO and Jaguar via emulation.

  • @DualBackdrop
    @DualBackdrop Рік тому +5

    "ok you can shoot rats"
    -ninetendo

  • @shinyagumon7015
    @shinyagumon7015 Рік тому +49

    Great video, i love the interview with Rebecca Heinemann its super informative and funny (they censored the rat tongue lol).
    Can't wait for the next game.

  • @Scout-Fanfiction
    @Scout-Fanfiction Рік тому +5

    Rebecca's insight was interesting. I think you posed constructive and relevant questions to her as well. Thanks for going into so much detail. Can't wait to see your experiences with the next game :).

  • @bjorntantau194
    @bjorntantau194 Рік тому +5

    I was surprised you didn't mention the Christmas version. For many years that would be the version you would find in shareware collections. I actually thought that it was an official mod and only relatively recently learned that it was unofficial.
    Of course, getting your dirty hands on the real Wolfenstein made you the coolest kid on the schoolyard. And if you had Doom 2 it absolutely had to be the version with the secret Wolfenstein levels. I don't even know if any other version existed. But it was great to be able to whisper that you actually had the "illegal" version.

  • @ill_hex8103
    @ill_hex8103 Рік тому +5

    11:49 Reminder that German Shepherds weren't really used for combat. The army used Rottweilers for that purpose more so.

  • @thetee8682
    @thetee8682 Рік тому +7

    ... and we shared it anyway with our friends on floppy. When my parents found out, they were not amused at first but then realized they couldn't stop us anyway - we would only play it hidden from them.
    So, they sat down with us, told us about our grandfather who died in WW2 and then let us continue to play wolf3d so we had a clear difference of "This was the cruel and horrifying reality." and "This is just game/pixels."

    • @Domarius64
      @Domarius64 Рік тому

      Good. I will never forget one of the most annoying things I've read, someone said their young nephew was playing a military FPS (maybe COD World at War) finished one of the levels, and turned around to him and said (completely genuine) "I would've been pretty good at World War II!"

  • @Chr1sader
    @Chr1sader Рік тому +7

    Im not really sure but now that i think about it, i believe the "Cancer Mouse" that replaces the Reichsadler in the Nightmare Level of The New Order are suppose to be the Rats from the censored Wolfenstein 3D Version of the SNES.
    Thats my guess at least.
    Nicht unbedingt das beste nationale Wappentier aber eine Krebs Maus is trotzdem süß.

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +2

      That's what I just thought about too! I'll try to ask someone who worked on the game what they're meant to represent. If they really are the mutant rats, that's gotta be one of the cutest references ever, seriously!

  • @ide6alt
    @ide6alt Рік тому +13

    It's cool that you interviewed Rebecca! Really shows the ammount of effort you put into your vids.

  • @JNun-pr8rh
    @JNun-pr8rh Рік тому +9

    Wow, Rebecca is kinda awesome! Love to hear more from her honestly!

  • @JDydgi
    @JDydgi Рік тому +1

    20:54 WHO'S OUR FRIENDLY RODENT PAL WHO LIVE'S IN REACTOR THREE!?

  • @LiquidClara
    @LiquidClara Рік тому +7

    Love the Civvie reference at 20:52

  • @masterofbloopers
    @masterofbloopers Рік тому +34

    I remember hearing about the ban on Nazi imagery in video games being lifted in Germany around the time that Germany announced they were massively increasing their military budget. When I told my history nerd friend this, his reaction was "Dear God, it's happening again."

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Рік тому +4

      What did he say when Germany announced to send tanks into eastern europe again?

    • @daskampffredchen
      @daskampffredchen Рік тому +3

      @@HappyBeezerStudios Especially if they reach the Aztov Battalion 👀

    • @lulu111_the_cool
      @lulu111_the_cool Рік тому +9

      Yeah massively increasing means. We did what was mandatory in the EU and NATO to spend. Which we for years did not. (I think it was something around 2-4% of the income of the land where we did the bare minimum. Also not even the mandatory ones)

    • @kdjfnrjfjvfjfk
      @kdjfnrjfjvfjfk Рік тому +3

      I have no idea how people can say this so casually implying something so horrible and not realising how insulting it is.

  • @fireaza
    @fireaza Рік тому +3

    "Socially-Acceptable Swastika" would be an excellent band name.

  • @N3Selina
    @N3Selina Рік тому +14

    ahhhhh - shooting dogs is a nono but shooting cute rats is a-okay!
    gotta love censorship. great video, i love these long essays from you!
    i also totally forgot the wonderful voice acting in the og release of the game. good times (not in a historical sense, of course!)

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE Рік тому +7

      Rodents of unusual size, one could say

    • @N3Selina
      @N3Selina Рік тому +2

      @@ArcturusOTE true, true! The Rats in Game are not cute or appealing to look at. But so aren't the Dogs. Pixels n' stuff, you know. Just a thought.

    • @fojisan2398
      @fojisan2398 Рік тому

      I think shooting rats is seen as okay because rats are generally regarded as vermin, while dogs are, y'know, Man's Best Friend, so shooting them is not so okay.

    • @Sapphiregamer8605
      @Sapphiregamer8605 Рік тому

      @@N3Selinabut dogs are a common pet, rats aren’t, some people wouldn’t like shooting the same species as their pets.

  • @saycrain
    @saycrain Рік тому +4

    love the amazing you do as always. it's so interesting to see all of these differences I've never been able to see first hand with these games

  • @hurrweasel932
    @hurrweasel932 Рік тому +4

    Oh my! Such an interesting video especially how you even got really good interview with super interesting questions for someone who actually worked on the game itself. That is just sooo sick to hear all this insider knowledge she shares.

  • @TheEmeraldSword04
    @TheEmeraldSword04 Рік тому +9

    24:32 That was likely unintentional to refer to the player as Amerikanerin, but I think it actually works out. I interpreted this as him egging you on by calling you a weak little (American) girl.

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +8

      Problem is that he says "Amerikaner", i.e. the male form. He just uses female pronouns at the same time, so it's a bit of a hodge-podge of broken German.

  • @AgentAlmost
    @AgentAlmost 10 місяців тому +1

    The "hamster mouse" at 20:50 looks kind of like a cartoon stoat to me

  • @CreatorofSecks
    @CreatorofSecks Рік тому +7

    "Mowing down Nazis is one of the best pastimes you can get"
    Hell yeah, brother

  • @PurpleColonel
    @PurpleColonel Рік тому +3

    Super hyped to sit down and watch this :) the whole wolfenstein series must be a rabbit hole for German changes

  • @georg4259
    @georg4259 Рік тому +4

    cool video peter, can't beleive Erlangen is the new Bielefeld now ^^. As Hans grosse they couldn't implement him with the ß since the letter only got added into the standard unicode for computers in 2008

    • @Zedek
      @Zedek Рік тому

      At least in the DooM WADs, each font is its own lump (a lump is a "file", e.g. a sound or image). They could have put that at least in the hidden secret levels in DooM 2. The level startup-names (e.g. "ENTRYWAY") are DooM BMP lumps, so they could use ANY letter they wished at least in those games.

  • @deadmilk1
    @deadmilk1 Рік тому +10

    I have a friend that used to draw iron crosses everywhere, he didnt know it was german, he just thought it looked badass

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Рік тому

      another crime the Nazis did. they had amazing badass aesthetics and ruined it by being absolute assholes.

    • @Citadel_Ztation_AI_666
      @Citadel_Ztation_AI_666 Рік тому

      did he ever get in trouble for that?

    • @deadmilk1
      @deadmilk1 Рік тому

      @@Citadel_Ztation_AI_666 nope

    • @Dirty_Davos
      @Dirty_Davos Рік тому +1

      As the swastika does, of course thats why the effer used it. We are humans, we cant have nice things. Lets imagine he drew that xD its really funny to see people nowadays react to drawings of middle ages
      Them: "Oh well, i never knew these people in the middle ages were nazis, did you?"
      Me: "...wha?"

  • @ambrose3560
    @ambrose3560 Рік тому +1

    I love the "mein leben" line so much i quote it regularly irl. It got burned into my brain when i played the game for the first time

  • @thewingman1777
    @thewingman1777 Рік тому

    An excellent and informative video and big props for getting an interview with Rebecca Heineman. Also, on the subject of Dr. Schabbs' name, it was a reference to an in-house joke at Id Software where "Shabs!" was used to describe anything that lacked quality.

  • @BearOldcastle
    @BearOldcastle Рік тому +2

    I'm just glad your still going, I hope this finally get's you some subs and view. Those tf2 days seem so distant.

  • @daintyfoal1981
    @daintyfoal1981 Рік тому +7

    you didnt mention the title theme for wolf 3d being horst wessel lied

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +12

      Luckily, you did, so now I don't have to!

  • @AndrewAmbrose
    @AndrewAmbrose Рік тому +2

    Very fascinating stuff (and such grand enthusiasm)! Subscribed 😎👌

  • @Blankult
    @Blankult Рік тому +2

    I really liked the intermission screens, so simple yet so effective

  • @elijahgames192
    @elijahgames192 Рік тому +13

    you forgot to say the superness of the snes port gave us the greatest game made on the wolfenstein engine.
    SUPER 3D NOAHS ARK.
    also this was a fun informative video on a shooter I personally love to play, great job and can't wait for the next video.

  • @jensmixedcompendium1258
    @jensmixedcompendium1258 Рік тому +1

    I found your channel on my Home feed - glad I did ;). New subscriber gained!

  • @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903
    @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 Рік тому +9

    If I had to make a guess why some versions of the game give the standard guards green uniforms, it might have to do with the brown uniforms representing the SA (essentially a precursor to the SS) Dressing them in green makes them look more like normal Wehrmacht soldiers and helps with censorship

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +6

      That makes sense!

    • @arekkrol9758
      @arekkrol9758 Рік тому +1

      i allways assumed the brown uniforms were supposed to be afrika korps for some unknown reason

    • @asteroidrules
      @asteroidrules Рік тому +2

      @@arekkrol9758 Afrikakorps did use brown uniforms, and the SA were mostly dead before the war began so the former are more likely to be known.

    • @dvanatendi
      @dvanatendi Рік тому

      The SA was absorbed into the Wehrmacht before the war started, after the Nazis purged the SA leaders (night of the long knives).
      Also the Wehrmacht used field grey uniforms (like in WW1), the only green uniforms pre 1945 I can think of are imperial Russian uniforms in WW1. The SS had some camouflage with green spots ( the precursor to modern Flecktarn Camouflage used by some western countries today) at the very end of WW2.

    • @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903
      @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 Рік тому

      Wolf 3D does take place in 1945 if I remember right, at least the original 3 episodes

  • @thatanimeweirdo
    @thatanimeweirdo Рік тому +9

    For whenever you inevitable make a video about the modern games: I think it's worth noting that the indie game "Through The Darkest of Times" from Paintbucket Games was the first game to ever receive an USK rating for a gamescom demo including swastikas. They were arguing that videogames can be a form of art, and were allowed by the USK. Which led to Wolfenstein to release in Germany with this imagery as the "International Version". The reason we still have a censored version was, that retailers like MediaMarkt and Saturn did not want to sell the uncensored version (even if it was given a proper age rating).

    • @blakegriplingph
      @blakegriplingph Рік тому +2

      From what I've read, a political satire browser game called _Bundesfighter II Turbo_ drew scrutiny when one of Alexander Gauland's moves resembled a swastika. The prosecutor's office in Stuttgart refused to investigate, citing the admission of the Bundesverband Interaktive Unterhaltungssoftware to the German Cultural Council in 2008 which officially recognised games as an art form rather than a mere toy.

    • @thatanimeweirdo
      @thatanimeweirdo Рік тому +2

      @@blakegriplingph Yes, however this was on a federal level (since it was political satire). The USK back then said "We have this rule in place, but if someone wants to fight it, we could probably lift it". And TTDOT was the first game (with a publisher, gamescom booth etc) that actually took that path.

  • @austinblack7991
    @austinblack7991 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video Peter! Wolfenstein 3D is my favorite video game of all time!

  • @mr0czusek
    @mr0czusek 10 місяців тому +2

    I remember grewing up in germany. i was unable to find games im looking in germany. same applies to Goldeneye007 for N64 similiar situation.
    until Moved back to Poland, had rebought everything that im unable to find or purchase games in germany. it was blown my mind to see difference censorship on same game.
    atleast stayed in Poland cause no censorship at all.

  • @CMCC1138
    @CMCC1138 Рік тому +1

    4:15 I once stayed in a hotel that had a curtain over a wall, no window, nothing. I guess that’s where they got their inspiration.

  • @linkdk59
    @linkdk59 Рік тому +8

    I love how Rebecca was involved in so many good stories

  • @Geekster1984
    @Geekster1984 Рік тому +1

    i always put random red banners in my castle minecraft builds, i can see where that guys comin fro. style wise

  • @dabakedawg
    @dabakedawg Рік тому +2

    According to the hint manual, Gretel is supposed to be saying "mein buße" upon death. Also, id meant to hire a woman to say her lines, but they were running out of time and just used the placeholders Tom Hall recorded.

  • @the_mobkiller
    @the_mobkiller Рік тому +2

    I was kinda hoping to see the Christmas version of Wolf3D. Maybe in a future video :D

  • @bitzgames
    @bitzgames Рік тому

    This was a very interesting and informative video on the game, I am glad that the ban on Wolf 3D was lifted recently though, it's such a genre defining game that it deserves to be played by more people. Locking it to the SNES for so long has likely made it very inaccessible for a long time. Good work! You've earned yourself a new subscriber!

  • @lucareviews9760
    @lucareviews9760 Рік тому +1

    I literally was thinking of getting a tattoo of the iron Cross since my family fought for Germany in ww1

  • @angelzeroxl
    @angelzeroxl Рік тому +3

    I thought for a very long time, that the white suited guys scream "Mein Führer!" when they die. I never heard "Nein Sowas..." before. As a German it's always funny to hear foreign speakers try the german language and sounds a bit sloppy. But in my oponion that's why Wolfenstein 3D is so legendary. Keep up the good work buddy!

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому

      I actually thought they said that too for the longest time! It makes sense, since the SS say "Mein Leben", and the officers are so much more devoted to being Nazis. Really odd.

  • @joegaming8101
    @joegaming8101 Рік тому +3

    please don't yoink my sploink

  • @damien__j
    @damien__j Рік тому +1

    Lol i was half expecting the interview to be a second animated head 😂

  • @MonsieurExist
    @MonsieurExist Рік тому +3

    11:10 Bro called BJ Blaskowicz “Wolfenstein”

  • @LeanneH
    @LeanneH Рік тому +1

    I've never played Wolfenstein but I have a friend who is super into it. This video nicely highlights what it's about Cx

  • @rightyloosey8554
    @rightyloosey8554 5 місяців тому +1

    20:52 Wait, those statues! *THEY'RE RATS!!*
    Please God let that be a deliberate omage to the SNES version...

  • @Mr.Duck123
    @Mr.Duck123 Рік тому +2

    Wolfenstein 3-D was not the first game in the series. Actually, there was other games on the Apple to computer like beyond the castle Wolfenstein.

    • @YadonTheCat
      @YadonTheCat Рік тому

      They inherited the name, but it's not part of the franchise

  • @alucardtepes4420
    @alucardtepes4420 Рік тому +2

    Censorship is pretty lame, no amount of censorship will ever change history or reality. pretending you never got a brain tumor diagnosis is not helping or solving the problem.

  • @bauermehlmann8800
    @bauermehlmann8800 Рік тому +2

    The First Wolfenstein Game ist actually Castle Wolfenstein for the Apple 2 Computer. It is very primitive and Not very relevant in a Video Like this but its interesting to know. Tolles Video übrigens.

  • @dansmoothback9644
    @dansmoothback9644 Рік тому

    Great interview! Definitely gonna call cacos "yucky ball" now

  • @tvhead3236
    @tvhead3236 Рік тому

    Crazy how different funny mustache man looks in your art without the mustache, he looks like that one villain from scooby doo

  • @SpookySkellyGurl
    @SpookySkellyGurl Рік тому +1

    It's worth noting that while the SNES version of Mortal Kombat had all the blood removed, the SNES version of Mortal Kombat II was nice and bloody (and also much better mechanically), because by that point the ESRB had been formed and Nintendo knew they'd lost that fight. Also a lot of Nintendo's aversion to mature content was Nintendo of America specifically, but when an American production like Mortal Kombat got compromised, a lot of the time they couldn't be bothered to re-bloody it up just for a Japanese release.

  • @noxagonal
    @noxagonal Рік тому +1

    This has been very informative. I learned a lot. :)

  • @DanoLefourbe
    @DanoLefourbe Рік тому +1

    Awesome video. German gaming is fascinating. I always feel a little sad for parts of the world affected by censorship and bans.

  • @LeoDoesAllThis
    @LeoDoesAllThis Рік тому +3

    I think the funny thing is that in the prototype version of the SNES port, all the enemies and bosses that you fight say “Hey!” and Levels 2 and 3 were intended to be in their original spots. Also, Dr. Schabbs kept some of the blood on his shirt like in the original PC version before it was completely removed in the final cut.
    And in the SNES version, it wasn’t just Hitler who had his name changed, but also the Death Knight. Even though his original name was somehow left unchanged in the gameplay, it was slightly altered to the Black Knight, according to the game’s manual. But in the Japanese version, it has been revealed that his real name in that version is Roy Giggam, which sounds quite unique, something that I’ve never heard of before.

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +2

      Oh my, I didn't even notice Schabbs' shirt was bloodless! That's incredible, and it explains why even in the Jaguar port it's completely white, since they based the sprites off of the SNES ones!

    • @LeoDoesAllThis
      @LeoDoesAllThis Рік тому +1

      @@GermanPeter Yeah. Apparently, they’ve also done the same thing to the mutants, Trans Grosse, and the Ubermutant. In the original PC versions, they all wear green outfits, but in the SNES, Jaguar, Mac, and 3DO versions, the former two wear outfits with a darker shade of olive green, while the latter wears a brown one. I don’t know why’s that, but I can see why the creators decided to remove the blood from Schabbs’ shirt. And the Death Knight, well, in the Jaguar, Mac, and 3DO versions, they removed the targeting system that covered his left eye. Again, I’m not sure why, but still.

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +1

      I think the colors of the outfits were changed because the SNES game has a different palette, or maybe it was easier to see from a distance with the pixelated screen.
      The Jaguar sprites are all REALLY lazily made, so I'm not surprised that the targeting system is missing. Here's a good compilation of sprites with very chunky pixels: www.spriters-resource.com/jaguar/wolfenstein3d/sheet/206205/

    • @LeoDoesAllThis
      @LeoDoesAllThis Рік тому +2

      @@GermanPeter Hmm, interesting. Seems like they just suddenly got away with that issue. And I’m also not surprised that the enemies forgot to walk left and right in that port, unlike in the original versions, especially with the bosses not saying their last words before falling to their deaths.
      Also in the Japanese version, Staatmeister/Trautmann was supposedly a colonel whose plan was to resurrect the dead by using an experimental virus known as Medicine LDD4, as well as having them to take over the world. Yes, Schabbs was originally the one in charge of making that plan, but it’s still very confusing.
      Because the storyline says that you have to fight all the mutants, the game was given the subtitle “The Claw of Eisenfaust”. Well, we actually don’t know if that is even a character or not. And no, the game didn’t even tell us anything else about what the claw is or does, since the name “Eisenfaust” is nothing more than just a codename for the original game’s second episode.

  • @TheBcoolGuy
    @TheBcoolGuy Рік тому +2

    Denazification... such an interesting process.

  • @Helvynia
    @Helvynia Рік тому

    good stuff, its actually interesting to hear the bans were more on the violence

  • @eisgnom7383
    @eisgnom7383 Рік тому +2

    It would be fun if you made a documentary on HOW Germany became so overbearing with censorship in videogames. Maybe even talk about the frontal21 documentaries.

  • @matthewsteele99
    @matthewsteele99 Рік тому +3

    Mraphy Black strikes again

  • @2-Way_Intersection
    @2-Way_Intersection Рік тому +1

    2:10
    this is the best delivery of this joke ive ever heard

  • @nickblake8767
    @nickblake8767 Рік тому

    You forgot to change the barrels of the shotmiesters chainguns to barrels of beer in the thumbnail.

  • @realnickhiro
    @realnickhiro Рік тому +3

    Ich kenne mich mit Wolfenstein null aus, aber dein Video hat mich trotzdem gefesselt. Mega gut!
    Dank dir werde ich mir die Reihe genauer anschauen.
    Hätte was lustiges was du dir mal anschauen könntest: die deutsche Sprachausgabe von FEAR 1.
    Die unzensierte Version wurde scheinbar gebannt und auf Steam kann man es sich nicht kaufen.
    Hat mich gewundert, dass das Spiel auf deutsch übersetzt ist, aber FEAR 2 & 3 nicht, aber im deutschen Markt erhältlich sind.
    youtu.be/ PE6tD9HxCLQ?t=1243 Vielleicht kommt dir ja diese Stimme irgendwo bekannt vor! :D

    • @GermanPeter
      @GermanPeter  Рік тому +2

      Oh, Tilo Schmitz! Das ist ziemlich cool, vielleicht schau ich mir das bald mal an!

    • @realnickhiro
      @realnickhiro Рік тому

      @@GermanPeter Wirklich Danke, dass du mir immer geantwortet hast. Ich liebe ehrlich dein Kontent

  • @ChristopherAndersonPirate
    @ChristopherAndersonPirate 2 місяці тому

    Fun fact, I live near Raven Software and did alpha and beta testing for Wolfenstein 2009. I also grew up in Madison and lived down the road from ID Software when they lived here and were programming Wolf3d. I had no idea at the time but learned many years later as an adult.
    That meant we got ahold of Wolfenstein 3d on our PC probably earlier than most people in the world. It was one of the first games I remember playing on our PC as a small kid.
    When I was a kid I always heard Wolf3d was banned in Germany and I was very sad to hear that an entire country could not play the game because it was based on real events. So it is interesting to hear what kind of censorship you guys had in your country. We only had to worry about dumb censorship on our console games thanks to Nintendo, so the Sega genesis games having no censorship like Mortal Kombat 1 was a breath of fresh air.
    I had no clue there was real places in Wolf3d as a Wisconsin, USA boy. I assumed Wolfenstein was not real though. It is not, riiight?
    I never rented or played the SNES version cuz I knew of the censorship, and I had the PC uncensored version from a very young age since we got it almost straight from the guys who made the game just downtown (literally a 10-15 minute drive from where we lived. I grew up on Hegg Ave in Monona, WI and I know the ID guys lived in an apartment off Park St. I saw a pic of the building and said “yup, I know where that place is, tho there’s many similar
    Apartments in that neighborhood.” Not too far from Downtown Madison WI near the University of Wisconsin Campus. Madison was in its golden age during the 1990’s, it sucks really bad now. Rent used to be great, now it’s astronomically high thanks to rich real estate moguls who moved here from Cali and ruined the City, and companies like Google made offices here when no one wanted them except corrupt city officials.

  • @Entertained45
    @Entertained45 Місяць тому

    Nicely made video, thanks

  • @JanxZ
    @JanxZ 11 місяців тому +1

    23:45 In regions outside of Germany, The "ß" is commonly transliterated (for example, into english as a surname as it is in this case) as "ss", just like "ä", "ö" and "ü" are transliterated into "ae", "oe" and "ue" respectively.

  • @MAYERMAKES
    @MAYERMAKES Рік тому +1

    Back in the day, the only way I could play wolf3d was the shareware which was circulated on floppies. very quickly is tarted modding and sharing these mods with other people on floppies. the first thing everyone did was to remove any WW2 references to make sure parents would not be alerted, it was a natural thing to do, the appeal for me was the gameplay, not the imagery and some mods were extremely good so I never felt i missed out on something. Edit: the game was banned in my area for the same reasons as in germany, so there was no real release, just bootlegs )

  • @emulsion_
    @emulsion_ Рік тому +4

    CANCER MOUSE CAMEO CONFIRMED

  • @mariorobotnik8090
    @mariorobotnik8090 Рік тому +3

    the censorship in Germany seems overbearing to me

  • @StackND
    @StackND Рік тому +1

    They could just change the time period to 1914 and turn hitler into wilhelm II