Thank you for documenting your progess. Its encouraging! That tip about going out when a lot of wind is key. After 2 sessions (in low) wind i realized i need to do that (or get a bigger wing). Not on foil yet but I will keep trying!
thx for your feedback ! Light wind is only possible with good technique. When you start lack of technique has to be compensated by more power in the wing. You need 18kn with a 5m² when you start... Try to find a boat that can pull you so you can focus on the foil, once some control you can add the wing. Don't forget to enjoy the learning journey ;-)
Very nice to see your progress. Long time windsurfer, no foil experience. My mistake turned out to be not going on flat water. I thought as long as I learned to stay upwind and waterstart I could learn on choppy water. That was wrong, flat water most critical to getting up on foil gradually with time to learn to make the small adjustments to stay up in control.
I've been learning exclusively in chop, and am finally starting to consistently get up on foil after a WHOLE YEAR and upwards of 50 sessions! I started with absolutely no board sport or foil experience. It was BRUTALLY difficult. My stubbornness is the only thing that got me through it.
NIce to see your progression. i have had two short sessions on the water; my knees are raw. LOL I think i should have started with a larger board. I kitesurf but no foiling experience. I'll get it. Thanks for sharing your experience.
wow you are quick learner ! im watching you jibe trying to decypher each time i see you do it, it's a bit of a mistery for me at the moment it's seem so easy haha. but i started the attempt few sessions ago.
When I see other wingfoilers they dont try something new. I rememberd on Christmas I fall Into the water 100 times a Session to learn the taks in every direction. The key for every move is to focus on the foil.
Looks awesome. I have 7 sessions in and haven't even managed to get on the foil yet and quite hard time to taxiing upwind. My spot is very choppy though ... yours look like dream place to learn!
Hi Hendry, we had a solid background in other watersports like kitesurfing and kitefoiling... this speeds up the learning proces. The hardest part is to control the foil: try to rent/borrow a boat and let you pull behind it untill you can control the foil and have stable flights. Only go on the water with the wing when there is a lot of wind when you start. (>18kn) You'll master the lowwind later. don't forget to enjoy the proces ;-) Yes our spot is flat, and that's the only good point about it. Most of the time we have anemic and very irregular winds... and algae ;-).
Zit ik rustig te kijken naar je filmpje , stomverbaast dat ik ineens st pietersplas zie, daar ben ik al enkele keren gaan pumpfoilen, morgen mijn eerste poging wingfoilen...
de gavers waar we normaal op varen is niet toegankelijk van 15 dec tot 15 feb. We zijn toen een paar keer naar st pieterplas geweest. wingfoil is minder lastig dan pumpfoilen ;-)
@@yannickverBen er ondertussen niet meer geweest is daar iemand aanwezig dan ? Of ga je er zonder toestemming? wel ik ben begonnen met pumpfoil nog geen ervaring met wind
We are already kitefoiling for 4 years, so that helps a lot. Getting on the foil is the hardest part... this lake is 'gavermeer' Harelbeke in Belgium. We live 10 min from that lake... most wind is very anemic and irregular so in fact we have mostly bad conditions... with a big foil (2100cm²) and a big wing (6 and now 8m²) you can really have a lot of sessions, even on a shitty inland lake... (but most people don't want big foils and wings and are vary negative about them...). Other spots are 'aan de Plas' in Brugge or the north Sea, but 85% is on Gavermeer.
Mooi om die progressie te zien! Ik wil zelf ook gaan beginnen maar we hebben alleen een redelijk klein meer hier met beperkte wind. Wat kopen?. Downwind board om makkelijker op foil te komen? Maar deze is dan weer erg instabiel? Thx
beginnen met normaal beginners materiaal en eenmaal onder de knie ander materiaal kopen. Voor binnenwater moet je ander materiaal kopen dan voor de zee. Voorzie een grote foil die snel uit het water komt. Die downwinder planken zijn heel smal en niet aangepast om op te beginnen, maar ze zijn wel top voor binnenwater. Ook een grote foil met grote AR helpt enorm. (terug niet geschikt voor beginner)
We learned on our own, but we had a solid background in kitesurfing, kitefoiling and surfing. If you don't have a watersport backgroud, I would advise to take at least take some hours of foiling behind a boat... once you control the foil the rest will come by itself... And start with the right gear on flat water...
Each session is about 1h, so easy to track ;-). Don't forget we had a good background in other glide watersports and already foiled with a kite. So it might be faster than a complete newby.
110l is a good volume to start (if you have some board experience and are a fit person). People tend to start with too small boards, this slows down the learning curve. After some time you will probably go for a smaller board, but I would give the advice to take your time to learn and not to get frustrated. Enjoy the learing process... mastering the foil is the hardest part.
Hi Francisco, this is the lake: www.google.be/maps/@50.8423755,3.3120228,15z?entry=ttu unfortunately lots of trees and very light and irregular winds most of the time. this is another one in a few clips: www.google.be/maps/search/st+PIetersplas/@51.2315547,3.18963,16z/data=!3m1!4b1?entry=ttu
Nice compilation! I'm learning to wingfoil right now. I am at the stage where I am trying to "float" the foil. What would be your best 3-5 tips at this stage? My front-wing is a low-aspect 1700 cm2 size. Is this size ok for me as a beginner?
this size is intermediate (some will say this is big)... ok if you have wind (>15kn) and are not too heavy... I started with a 6m² wing and and 2100 cm² for 68 kg. But on an inland lake with very light and irregular winds. With more wind you can go smaller. i'll think about the tips and post them later...
@@yannickver Thanks for reply. I am 72 kg. I use a 5.0 wing and 80 ltr board. Windy season right now (12-25kn). I understand that my equipment is more for intermediate than for beginner. 15-year free-race windsurf experience but I realize technique to wing is very different from windsurf. Enjoying the struggle!
@@tonolegarda9919 here's the 5 tips... 1 - it’s easier to learn with high wind conditions than low wind conditions 2 - start if possible on flat water (lake) 3 - start on a bigger board (80l is really small to start) 4 - feel how the wing behaves on land, learn how it's feeling is and do this using the different handles. 5 - be patient 😊
you have it in different sizes. I have the 5'2 which is 90L... my weight is 67 kg. Here you have all models: appletreesurfboards.com/product/appleslice-wing-foil-board/#stock-or-custom
now 42 y.o. , started watersports about 9 y.o. or so... windsurfing (not intesively when young), surfing and skateboard as a kid. Last 20 years intensive Kitesurfing, and last 5 years intesive kitefoiling practice... the foiling background is most important I think... didn't have to learn the foil control. And on wing the foil is big, makes it much easier.
Hi Reinier, this is partly filmed on the Gavermeer (85%), north sea and St. Pietersplas ... Speed is much less than a windsurfer, on the big foil max around 30km/h, small foil max about 36km/h. But you loose much less speed in the turns tue to the foil...
@@yannickver yes I know, I am a windsurfer myself, wave mainly but started windfoiling as well last year. Say hi to Aart van Loocke, I am sure you know that guy :-)
Hi, sorry for the late reply... your question only popped up 2 days ago... (YT bug) I don’t realy have a preference, I like both. The big advantage of winging is that I can practice it on an inland lake where I live, this maken it for me possible to have a lot more sessions in one season. Winging also improves my kitefoil skills, better board control. The more you practice, the better you will get and the more fun you will have.
Thank you for documenting your progess. Its encouraging! That tip about going out when a lot of wind is key. After 2 sessions (in low) wind i realized i need to do that (or get a bigger wing). Not on foil yet but I will keep trying!
thx for your feedback ! Light wind is only possible with good technique. When you start lack of technique has to be compensated by more power in the wing. You need 18kn with a 5m² when you start...
Try to find a boat that can pull you so you can focus on the foil, once some control you can add the wing.
Don't forget to enjoy the learning journey ;-)
Thanks for sharing! Very encouraging to see your progression!
thx for feedback !
Thank you, love the video.
@charlieroberts8217
You are welcome ! Happy you like it !
Very nice to see your progress. Long time windsurfer, no foil experience. My mistake turned out to be not going on flat water. I thought as long as I learned to stay upwind and waterstart I could learn on choppy water. That was wrong, flat water most critical to getting up on foil gradually with time to learn to make the small adjustments to stay up in control.
staying on the foil is the hardest part... we learned more than 5Y ago with kite. It took 1 year to master the foil. (with solid kiting background)
I've been learning exclusively in chop, and am finally starting to consistently get up on foil after a WHOLE YEAR and upwards of 50 sessions! I started with absolutely no board sport or foil experience. It was BRUTALLY difficult. My stubbornness is the only thing that got me through it.
NIce to see your progression. i have had two short sessions on the water; my knees are raw. LOL I think i should have started with a larger board. I kitesurf but no foiling experience. I'll get it. Thanks for sharing your experience.
your weight +30-40 kg is ideal start volume... taking smaller wil be difficult in beginning, but you'll keep your board longer...
thx for feedback !
I like it very good thumbs up
Thank you! Cheers!
wow you are quick learner ! im watching you jibe trying to decypher each time i see you do it, it's a bit of a mistery for me at the moment it's seem so easy haha. but i started the attempt few sessions ago.
It will become naturally with enough exercise 😉
I did my first tacks in the 5th Session. U should try more moves. Unlock the race jibe and the downwind 360 it's very easy. Keep on
thx for reply... what was your background before winging ?
@@yannickver I am a wave windsurfer
@@wingo.jimbo84 you're probably a foil talent ... great !
When I see other wingfoilers they dont try something new. I rememberd on Christmas I fall Into the water 100 times a Session to learn the taks in every direction. The key for every move is to focus on the foil.
great!
thx !
Looks awesome. I have 7 sessions in and haven't even managed to get on the foil yet and quite hard time to taxiing upwind. My spot is very choppy though ... yours look like dream place to learn!
Hi Hendry, we had a solid background in other watersports like kitesurfing and kitefoiling... this speeds up the learning proces.
The hardest part is to control the foil: try to rent/borrow a boat and let you pull behind it untill you can control the foil and have stable flights.
Only go on the water with the wing when there is a lot of wind when you start. (>18kn) You'll master the lowwind later.
don't forget to enjoy the proces ;-)
Yes our spot is flat, and that's the only good point about it. Most of the time we have anemic and very irregular winds... and algae ;-).
@@yannickver thanks a lot for the tips!
Zit ik rustig te kijken naar je filmpje , stomverbaast dat ik ineens st pietersplas zie, daar ben ik al enkele keren gaan pumpfoilen, morgen mijn eerste poging wingfoilen...
de gavers waar we normaal op varen is niet toegankelijk van 15 dec tot 15 feb. We zijn toen een paar keer naar st pieterplas geweest.
wingfoil is minder lastig dan pumpfoilen ;-)
@@yannickverBen er ondertussen niet meer geweest is daar iemand aanwezig dan ? Of ga je er zonder toestemming? wel ik ben begonnen met pumpfoil nog geen ervaring met wind
@@hdek8511 Normaal is het enkel voor leden ginder... Je moet lid zijn of toelating hebben om de plas te gebruiken.
Mooi filmpje
bedankt !
Wow, up on foil on your second day. Amazing. Where are you sailing? 44+ days of wind inside 10 months is great.
We are already kitefoiling for 4 years, so that helps a lot. Getting on the foil is the hardest part... this lake is 'gavermeer' Harelbeke in Belgium. We live 10 min from that lake... most wind is very anemic and irregular so in fact we have mostly bad conditions... with a big foil (2100cm²) and a big wing (6 and now 8m²) you can really have a lot of sessions, even on a shitty inland lake... (but most people don't want big foils and wings and are vary negative about them...). Other spots are 'aan de Plas' in Brugge or the north Sea, but 85% is on Gavermeer.
Mooi om die progressie te zien! Ik wil zelf ook gaan beginnen maar we hebben alleen een redelijk klein meer hier met beperkte wind. Wat kopen?. Downwind board om makkelijker op foil te komen? Maar deze is dan weer erg instabiel? Thx
beginnen met normaal beginners materiaal en eenmaal onder de knie ander materiaal kopen. Voor binnenwater moet je ander materiaal kopen dan voor de zee. Voorzie een grote foil die snel uit het water komt.
Die downwinder planken zijn heel smal en niet aangepast om op te beginnen, maar ze zijn wel top voor binnenwater. Ook een grote foil met grote AR helpt enorm. (terug niet geschikt voor beginner)
Great videos - did you learn on your own or take lessons?
We learned on our own, but we had a solid background in kitesurfing, kitefoiling and surfing.
If you don't have a watersport backgroud, I would advise to take at least take some hours of foiling behind a boat... once you control the foil the rest will come by itself...
And start with the right gear on flat water...
if you tracked all your sessions it would good to see the hours that you were on the water at each point in your progression
Each session is about 1h, so easy to track ;-).
Don't forget we had a good background in other glide watersports and already foiled with a kite. So it might be faster than a complete newby.
I am 83 kgs. Getting ready to buy a 110L f-one with an Armstrong 2050 cm foil and 6m wing. From what I read foil will be ok. How about the board?
110l is a good volume to start (if you have some board experience and are a fit person). People tend to start with too small boards, this slows down the learning curve. After some time you will probably go for a smaller board, but I would give the advice to take your time to learn and not to get frustrated. Enjoy the learing process... mastering the foil is the hardest part.
Hello. Great progresion. Congratulations. Where is this lake, localitation on Google maps? Thanks
Hi Francisco, this is the lake:
www.google.be/maps/@50.8423755,3.3120228,15z?entry=ttu
unfortunately lots of trees and very light and irregular winds most of the time.
this is another one in a few clips:
www.google.be/maps/search/st+PIetersplas/@51.2315547,3.18963,16z/data=!3m1!4b1?entry=ttu
Nice compilation! I'm learning to wingfoil right now. I am at the stage where I am trying to "float" the foil. What would be your best 3-5 tips at this stage? My front-wing is a low-aspect 1700 cm2 size. Is this size ok for me as a beginner?
this size is intermediate (some will say this is big)... ok if you have wind (>15kn) and are not too heavy... I started with a 6m² wing and and 2100 cm² for 68 kg. But on an inland lake with very light and irregular winds. With more wind you can go smaller. i'll think about the tips and post them later...
@@yannickver Thanks for reply. I am 72 kg. I use a 5.0 wing and 80 ltr board. Windy season right now (12-25kn). I understand that my equipment is more for intermediate than for beginner. 15-year free-race windsurf experience but I realize technique to wing is very different from windsurf. Enjoying the struggle!
@@tonolegarda9919 here's the 5 tips...
1 - it’s easier to learn with high wind conditions than low wind conditions
2 - start if possible on flat water (lake)
3 - start on a bigger board (80l is really small to start)
4 - feel how the wing behaves on land, learn how it's feeling is and do this using the different handles.
5 - be patient 😊
@@yannickver Great beginner tips! More power to your progression. PATIENCE. Thanks.
very nice board how many liter the board?
and your waight
you have it in different sizes. I have the 5'2 which is 90L... my weight is 67 kg.
Here you have all models:
appletreesurfboards.com/product/appleslice-wing-foil-board/#stock-or-custom
@@yannickver very nice thanks bro
i wish best wind for this year, many windy days on the water;)
@@imbodenandre2106 here it's in detail:
ua-cam.com/video/Dx6sjePSlxY/v-deo.html
your second session is like me on my 30th session, unbeleivable.. did you sail windsurfs for 30 years prior to this?
now 42 y.o. , started watersports about 9 y.o. or so... windsurfing (not intesively when young), surfing and skateboard as a kid. Last 20 years intensive Kitesurfing, and last 5 years intesive kitefoiling practice... the foiling background is most important I think... didn't have to learn the foil control. And on wing the foil is big, makes it much easier.
Goes pretty fast! Well done. Where is this? Could this be the Gavermeer in Belgium? I have been there once with a colleague.
Hi Reinier, this is partly filmed on the Gavermeer (85%), north sea and St. Pietersplas ...
Speed is much less than a windsurfer, on the big foil max around 30km/h, small foil max about 36km/h.
But you loose much less speed in the turns tue to the foil...
@@yannickver yes I know, I am a windsurfer myself, wave mainly but started windfoiling as well last year. Say hi to Aart van Loocke, I am sure you know that guy :-)
@@reinierheerink2835 here's Aart ;-)
ua-cam.com/video/Xd8OlQv8b5A/v-deo.html
Cool video! how do you like wing foiling compared to kite?
Hi, sorry for the late reply... your question only popped up 2 days ago... (YT bug)
I don’t realy have a preference, I like both. The big advantage of winging is that I can practice it on an inland lake where I live, this maken it for me possible to have a lot more sessions in one season. Winging also improves my kitefoil skills, better board control. The more you practice, the better you will get and the more fun you will have.
How many hours do you have wingfoil for session 44?
Sportwatch says 54 hours and 378km ...
You are good 👍