The curio hunt is what will sell boxes far past the average set completion curve. I can’t wait to open this set at the start and try to make these discoveries.
Another fantastic video, always appreciate your analyses! I think your assumptions make sense, I definitely expect the number to fall within your suggested ranges. Have fun at your release events!
I was going off your recommendation from Beta and preodered 3 boxes. Since then I found an LGS and ordered another case because I wanted to support them and help build a player base.
I ordered 16 boxes and plan to open 4 and keep the other 2 cases sealed. I'm just loving every aspect of Sorcery and can't wait to see what future sets have in store.
Great video as usual. I've got 4 boxes coming from TC, 2 from another online source, and a case I'll be picking up from my LGS. I like to diversify the sources a bit to help mitigate any potential delays or clumping issues if they happen to occur.
I think you hit the nail in the head. Must say it will be interesting if they have largely deviated away from this analysis. I brought 10 boxes, plan to open 8... hmmm I think I am an addict LOL
I pre-ordered 2 cases from TC, love the promos and sample card chance. As well as I love opening boxes. I plan to open a case upon release and then hold the other case to open a box here and there after the initial go crazy phase haha.
Similar to Beta, where after I hit 3 boxes I ordered singles to complete the set, I will be doing the same with AL. Of course, I did open more Beta for fun and resale, so I might be doing that as well.
I'm in for 5 boxes. Same as i did for Beta. I got 2 from Team Covenant via the sub and 3 from Rudy's promo. I also picked up a case from distro to sell at my video games/collectibles store. not sure how it will sell but i'll try to introduce people to the game.
Sound case for 51 uniques in AL. I ordered a few boxes from TC, and a few from my LGS. Do you think AL will come with another Halloween themed buy-a-box promo?
I bought 2 boxes and traded foils away. Got all 4 cores and a bunch of other unique. 3 boxes of foils would be really great for trades but I can only budget for 2.
Buy what you can afford, buy what you need to pay then wait 7 months before trying to buy a full set. Just a hunch but I feel like they'll be closer to a Magic set with their numbers so I'd be suprised to see 30+ uniques but you never know
Just got into Sorcery and opened my first two boxes of Beta. I opened 3 copies of 3 different uniques between the two boxes, and duplicates of a handful of other uniques which was pretty disappointing. Feels like the collation could use some work. Other than that everything from the art, cardstock quality, foil quality is excellent!
The question isn't "How many boxes do I need to open to get a full set". The question should be: "How many boxes should I open before I start buying singles to complete rest of my set?"
looking at the curve, I would estimate that depending on price, you could open as low as 3 boxes and then buy the rest. Or you could buy 12 boxes and then buy the rest. I opened 17 boxes of beta and then bought the rest. I bought too many, but I had the bad luck not to pull even 1 Philosopher Stone out of 17 boxes.
I'm not sure about your estimates since I completed my Beta set in 35 boxes. It should have been completed in 30 boxes but the last card i needed was badly bent in the packet so i continued until i found a second copy of that card. Beta has 66 uniques and even with AL dropping to 24 packs, if it has 44 uniques then I would expect to complete a set in the same number of boxes. I have been told by others that they completed their Beta set in less than 35 boxes. I don't know anyone who needed to open more than that to complete a set. Obviously if there is more than 44 uniques then i would expect the number to increase but your suggested number is much higher than I would expect. I've ordered 8 boxes so far, 2 each from 4 different suppliers, to increase the chance that I will have some boxes to open on or shortly after release date. I plan to keep buying boxes until I complete a non-foil set.
You can get lucky in regards to the boxes contents. I opened 6 boxes of beta and was surprised at how little I had to aquire after. I brought 3 boxes of Alpha and got rather lucky with 3 different cores but still need a pstone, E curiosa, and a core for this among other uniques, elites and exceptional This analysis is very much based on an overall average
The plot is a statistical average plot, which means that you have a certain deviation or "range" you could get. Completing at 30 ~ 35 is perfectly possible as it lies within the min/max curve. It is not something completely out of the blue. In fact, your experience actually reinforces that my calculation is right on target:) Hope you complete your non-foil set!
Just opened my first box of AL and it contained 12 Uniques (1 Foil). Not sure if I got lucky or if they've increased the pull rate. If I exclude the "Sir" Uniques I ended up with 4 which lines up with 1 for every 5-6 packs.
Yes. However, as I mentioned in the video, there are too many assumptions I need to make so it was omitted. It should be similar to beta so you can watch the beta version info for reference: ua-cam.com/video/QUK7OrnQCKM/v-deo.html
I kept detailed stats on my Beta openings. I completed ordinary set in 5 boxes (Avatars are the last cards to find here), exceptional set in 10 boxes, an elite set in 15 boxes and finally a unique set in 35 boxes (should have been 30 but last card was bent so i continued till i found duplicate). I starting collecting very late so I sourced my boxes for multiple sellers which may have helped me. However, anyone collecting a full set will have many many ordinary and exceptional sets so you should be able to buy full playsets of these quite easily.
I'm building a position in Beta right now and ive got 3 Arthurian Legends coming, I plan on getting a larger position of both since I am selling off singles.
@wizardsden666 Yeah, I'm just way better with numbers than words. I always find math interesting. That's so funny You don't. I would have never guessed
Now I just need to explain to my wife that Haine told me I need to buy *at least* three boxes of AL.
LOL
Hope you have luck!
The best in the business when it comes to Sorcery.
the hype has bitten me more than any set of any card game ive got 9 boxes on the way. I'm sure ill be opening more lol.
same! I never opened that many of one product ever in my life before xD
you and me both!
I am hyped too! Got 3 cases for starters!
The curio hunt is what will sell boxes far past the average set completion curve. I can’t wait to open this set at the start and try to make these discoveries.
Another fantastic video, always appreciate your analyses! I think your assumptions make sense, I definitely expect the number to fall within your suggested ranges. Have fun at your release events!
For sure I will!
I was going off your recommendation from Beta and preodered 3 boxes. Since then I found an LGS and ordered another case because I wanted to support them and help build a player base.
That's a good one! I am buying a lot too to serve as a card depo too!
Thanks for this, Haine, and for setting the bar! “Obviously you don’t want to buy 50 or 60 boxes trying to complete a full set” …of course not 😬
We need that bar for sure!
Thanks for the reaction. I will be getting 3 cases. One is on the way and will look forward to the other two as well!!!
I ordered 16 boxes and plan to open 4 and keep the other 2 cases sealed. I'm just loving every aspect of Sorcery and can't wait to see what future sets have in store.
I can't wait for the next set too, the dragonlord!
Great video as usual. I've got 4 boxes coming from TC, 2 from another online source, and a case I'll be picking up from my LGS. I like to diversify the sources a bit to help mitigate any potential delays or clumping issues if they happen to occur.
I did order from TC too as they deliver it on time!
super excited for this set. i have 3 boxes preordered and plan to get many more
Haine you need to continue the how to play video ! We need them
I know! Long overdue content....
I think you hit the nail in the head. Must say it will be interesting if they have largely deviated away from this analysis.
I brought 10 boxes, plan to open 8... hmmm I think I am an addict LOL
An addict for sure lol!
I pre-ordered 2 cases from TC, love the promos and sample card chance. As well as I love opening boxes. I plan to open a case upon release and then hold the other case to open a box here and there after the initial go crazy phase haha.
I am definitely getting more than 3…I have an addiction, Haine!! 😂
Me too! lol
Similar to Beta, where after I hit 3 boxes I ordered singles to complete the set, I will be doing the same with AL. Of course, I did open more Beta for fun and resale, so I might be doing that as well.
You always realize you want to open more lol
Already pre-ordered a case af AL!
I'm in for 5 boxes. Same as i did for Beta. I got 2 from Team Covenant via the sub and 3 from Rudy's promo. I also picked up a case from distro to sell at my video games/collectibles store. not sure how it will sell but i'll try to introduce people to the game.
I have one box pre-ordered but would love to get at least 2-5 more boxes...one of which I will leave sealed.
Haine,
The 11 Gilded Elvira cards, are those Curio as a Chase card ?
Please explain.
Thank you
Yes they are curios.
Sound case for 51 uniques in AL. I ordered a few boxes from TC, and a few from my LGS. Do you think AL will come with another Halloween themed buy-a-box promo?
Not that I know of, there's only TC and Rudy promo.
I pre-ordered 16 boxes. I plan to keep one case sealed and open the rest on my UA-cam channel.
Awesome! Keep those videos coming!
To begin, I ordered 1 Case of 6 from one store and 2 loose boxes from a second store, for a total of 8 boxes.
3 cases, got it! 🙉
That's the spirit!
I bought 2 boxes and traded foils away. Got all 4 cores and a bunch of other unique. 3 boxes of foils would be really great for trades but I can only budget for 2.
You can still enjoy with 2! No need to go too deep!
Got 3 boxes to open and going to pick up a 4th to keep for my nerd wall.
Always need at least one on the wall!
Buy what you can afford, buy what you need to pay then wait 7 months before trying to buy a full set.
Just a hunch but I feel like they'll be closer to a Magic set with their numbers so I'd be suprised to see 30+ uniques but you never know
Just got into Sorcery and opened my first two boxes of Beta. I opened 3 copies of 3 different uniques between the two boxes, and duplicates of a handful of other uniques which was pretty disappointing. Feels like the collation could use some work. Other than that everything from the art, cardstock quality, foil quality is excellent!
Rare case but it does happen. Hope you get good hits with AL!
The question isn't "How many boxes do I need to open to get a full set". The question should be: "How many boxes should I open before I start buying singles to complete rest of my set?"
looking at the curve, I would estimate that depending on price, you could open as low as 3 boxes and then buy the rest. Or you could buy 12 boxes and then buy the rest. I opened 17 boxes of beta and then bought the rest. I bought too many, but I had the bad luck not to pull even 1 Philosopher Stone out of 17 boxes.
I plan to open only 3 boxes of Arthurian Legends and buy the rest of my AL set next year.
2 cases so far, but I'm aiming for full playsets for my wife and me (and hopefully some spicy foils).
I'm getting 2 playsets too! NFs for me though.
@@wizardsden666 Yup, I go for NFs and tend to use foils as trade bait for the uniques i need.
It took me 19 boxes of Beta for a full playset of Beta, with the exception of 4 uniques which I traded for.
Sounds like "slightly" luckier than the average curve!
I'm not sure about your estimates since I completed my Beta set in 35 boxes. It should have been completed in 30 boxes but the last card i needed was badly bent in the packet so i continued until i found a second copy of that card. Beta has 66 uniques and even with AL dropping to 24 packs, if it has 44 uniques then I would expect to complete a set in the same number of boxes. I have been told by others that they completed their Beta set in less than 35 boxes. I don't know anyone who needed to open more than that to complete a set. Obviously if there is more than 44 uniques then i would expect the number to increase but your suggested number is much higher than I would expect.
I've ordered 8 boxes so far, 2 each from 4 different suppliers, to increase the chance that I will have some boxes to open on or shortly after release date. I plan to keep buying boxes until I complete a non-foil set.
You can get lucky in regards to the boxes contents. I opened 6 boxes of beta and was surprised at how little I had to aquire after. I brought 3 boxes of Alpha and got rather lucky with 3 different cores but still need a pstone, E curiosa, and a core for this among other uniques, elites and exceptional
This analysis is very much based on an overall average
The plot is a statistical average plot, which means that you have a certain deviation or "range" you could get. Completing at 30 ~ 35 is perfectly possible as it lies within the min/max curve. It is not something completely out of the blue. In fact, your experience actually reinforces that my calculation is right on target:)
Hope you complete your non-foil set!
Just opened my first box of AL and it contained 12 Uniques (1 Foil). Not sure if I got lucky or if they've increased the pull rate. If I exclude the "Sir" Uniques I ended up with 4 which lines up with 1 for every 5-6 packs.
I will be doing a follow up video on this topic soon! There are sub tiers in the unique rarity. That is why the apparent number of uniques increased.
Does your 3 box recommendation still stand after knowing that there's 71 uniques in the set?
I will have a new update video tomorrow so I will update there!
is there a way to calculate this for a player of ordinary and extraordinary cards?
Yes. However, as I mentioned in the video, there are too many assumptions I need to make so it was omitted. It should be similar to beta so you can watch the beta version info for reference:
ua-cam.com/video/QUK7OrnQCKM/v-deo.html
I kept detailed stats on my Beta openings. I completed ordinary set in 5 boxes (Avatars are the last cards to find here), exceptional set in 10 boxes, an elite set in 15 boxes and finally a unique set in 35 boxes (should have been 30 but last card was bent so i continued till i found duplicate). I starting collecting very late so I sourced my boxes for multiple sellers which may have helped me.
However, anyone collecting a full set will have many many ordinary and exceptional sets so you should be able to buy full playsets of these quite easily.
Are you doing a box opening video?
Yes! I just didn't get my cards yet!
@@wizardsden666 I’m looking forward to it! I’m in Canada and my order is still yet to come as well
👏👏👏👏👏
"Addicted to opening packs"...would be funny if I didnt know a couple of specific individuals who have a particular addiction problem 😅
My hearts are with those who has the urge to rip packs ❤️
Do you mean 3 booster boxes or 3 case boxes?
3 outer case boxes
Not the case, just the box! 3 cases would be crazy lol
Oh I bought 4 cases 😂
Im just waiting for my 5 cases and open it after 2 weeks. 😅
Cool Analysis...but i can't open just 3 🤷♂️🤣🤣
Can understand, same with everyone!
As always: buy the singles you need😂
Anyway, i ordered 3 Displays... 😇
I'm building a position in Beta right now and ive got 3 Arthurian Legends coming, I plan on getting a larger position of both since I am selling off singles.
Oops, LOL … I bought 105 beta boxes…. So for AL … I am getting …. Just enough … LOL
105.....you must have wanted to be sure you get all your uniques lol
@@wizardsden666 I just had so much fun and had a high level of enjoyment from opening beta booster boxes. So many wild moments in time.
Me like maff
Really?? Ironically, I don't lol
@wizardsden666 Yeah, I'm just way better with numbers than words. I always find math interesting. That's so funny You don't. I would have never guessed
🥃
…or you could just buy the singles? 🤷♂️ I don’t know.
You can get the fun of ripping packs though!