Quick note: he did not kill his mom or wife. He just put them through hell. The movie is essentially about a rock star who, due to various traumas throughout his life (losing his father, an overbearing mother, an abusive schoolmaster/school system) has never learned how to properly relate to other people. He's burnt out from drugs and being on the road, disillusioned with fame and unable to communicate with his wife, who he soon learns has turned to another man for the intimacy he's unable to give her. He's just at the end of his rope. As he sits in a hotel room before a show one night, he starts ruminating on all of these things and slowly starts going crazy. Things reach a climax when after the show that night, a groupie follows him back to his hotel room, even though he expresses no interest in her. As she is trying to seduce him, all of his anger and frustration boils over and he trashes the room, nearly injuring or killing the groupie who runs away. He injures himself severely and presumably medicates himself with drugs. During this time, as part of an attempt to break away from his "rock star image", and presumably due to his ongoing mental breakdown, he shaves off his hair and eyebrows (this part was based on a real incident involving Syd Barrett. He showed up in the studio while the band was recording "Wish You Were Here", 5 years after the last time any of them had seen him, and nobody recognized him due to his weight gain and the fact that he had shaved his head completely bald, including his eyebrows.) After this, Pink slips back into a drug induced sleep. His manager breaks into his room the next night as he has not shown up for the next concert. He is administered more drugs which, mixed with the ones he has already taken and his already fragile mental state, induces a psychotic break during which he imagines himself becoming a Hitleresque figure who takes out all his anger on his audience. Finally, we briefly glimpse him back in the real world hiding in a bathroom stall (either before or after the show) where he imagines himself being put on trial for his treatment of his wife and mother and closing himself off to people in general. (Also, the "worms" shown/referred to throughout this sequence are symbolic of negative thoughts that eat away at you and turn you into a "monster" if you don't deal with them.) It's left ambiguous as to what happens to Pink after his mental "wall" is torn down. Anyway, interesting side note: this final sequence where Pink imagines himself becoming a fascist dictator was based on the actual event which inspired Roger to start writing The Wall. By the late 70s with Floyd becoming one of the biggest bands in the world, he had gotten to the point of hating their new audience, getting pissed at them doing things like setting off fireworks and shouting and screaming over their quieter songs, which culminated one night in him beckoning a particularly loud fan closer to the stage and then spitting on him when he got close enough. He then imagined erecting a wall between the band and the audience which further inspired him to reflect on all the things that had caused him to close himself off from or "build a wall between" not just the audience, but the world in general.
Syd also would put a jelly substance on his face before getting on stage and when the lights hit it it would slowly melt giving the illusion his face was melting. He was kind of a mad genius.
@@emcsquared8681it was a mixture of quaaludes and hair gel. The stage lights melted it and it ran down his face. The audience thought he was melting. Lots of lsd lots and lots. Or it was STP that could have got him. People were dosing Syd.
The late, great British actor Bob Hoskins. If you haven't seen him in "The Long Good Friday", one of the finest gangster movies ever made, you really must. He is amazing in it.
Both Roger Waters and Syd Barrett were war orphans and the character of Pink is a mix of both them. Comfortably Numb is referred to an episode really happened: Roger had a kidney stones episode during a tour, and in order to make him perform he was given strong anaesthetics. He ended up playing on stage "completely numb"
It is confusing because it is mostly from his point of view and he is mad. The big message is that wars create mad people and mad people create wars - so the cycle of pain continues.
I get your point. He was pushed into insanity and belief in nothing. Just like our children are being taught in every level of school. Our educational system is 100% Marxist. They believe in controlling children’s opinions by punching it into them every single fu…ng day. The Marxist democrat party needs to be defeated right now.
@@paxonearth And loss of humanity. "The show must go on" at any cost. Who knows what he was injected with at that point. His former self clearly rots away and he re-emerge with a delusional personality.
And it also touches on one of the underlying themes of the album/film. The cyclical nature of love & hate. On the original vinyl albums, the outtrack at the end of the second side of the second disc ends with the very last thing on the album being "Isn't this where we…" and very quietly on the intro of the first track on the first disc begins with "…where we come in?" So the entire album actually loops on itself. So the cyclical, ironic, aspect fo the fascist hate that caused WWII that would kill Pink/Water's dad would begin the build-up of isolation and disconnection of ones humanity that would eventually give rise to fascist Pink, leading to (albeit imagined) angry, hatred and lashing out at everything that (in Pin's mind) "wronged him" which would/could lead to the very thing that killed his father and started it all. The album and film is very very dee, and the deep you dig and peel back the onion, the more interconnected and profound it is.
Here are the lyrics to "Outside The Wall", the song that you cut off just as the credits began to roll. Kind of an important summation of what we all went through watching this film: "All alone or in twos, the ones who really love you Walk up and down outside the wall Some hand in hand, some gather together in bands The bleeding hearts and the artists make their stand And when they've given you their all Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall" (Isn't this where-)
Little known fact: Those near-bald guys following Pink around and causing chaos in the city are REAL skinheads hired for the film. Around this point, the director and cartoonist Gerald Scarfe were scared - the director had to keep yelling "Cut!" to get them to stop.
As you go through life, you start becoming hardened to things so that it won't affect you emotionally anymore. Every piece of pain in your life becomes a brick in the wall so it won't affect you in the future.
Dude be trippin on LSD....that's what the animation is all about, see?. His underlying problem that f*cked up his head was losing his father in WW II. His father was K.I.A. at the Anzio Beachhead by a German Stuka Dive Bomber. The scene where his father ran into the dugout to use the field radio but was killed. He took on the evil persona of the German high command that took his father away, when he was but just a little boy. The loss of his father at such an early age combined with his abuse of powerful drugs really damaged him beyond repair. There are many layers to the film, soundtrack. I love Pink Floyd's "The Wall". I was born in the 60's. Was a child of the 70's. And came of age in the best decade of all, the 1980's. I owned the "The Wall" on VHS back in the day. Also bought a copy of this album, and several on audio cassette tape. Actually I wore out several cassette tapes because they were constantly played so much. If I've heard that album and watched the movie once....I must have done it hundreds of times. No lie. Know every word by heart. LOVE FLOYD. All their stuff. I must let you know, guys, that I am so thankful to you for reacting to this. This is wicked cool. Once again, thanks. I have not seen anyone do this one. Everyone is stuck on the "PULSE" thingy. Nah...that is NOT where it's at. I wish more young people of your generation would check out Pink Floyd's "The Wall", for real, like you guys have. Big shoutout from this old, longhaired, hippy, rocker dude in the mountains of Gatlinburg, Tennessee. Be seeing ya on the next. Go with God. Peace. Keep-a-rocking. Later, dudes.
nice series of reactions. i do wish you had let the last song, "outside the wall", play through (during the credits) because it sums everything up. it says that although people may wall themselves up inside their pain and anger, it can be just as hard for those "outside the wall" trying to reach you to help you. i never liked the placement of the song in the film. because it played over the credits a lot of people were walking out of theaters,and missed it.
I've listened to Pink Floyd my whole life. I never thought I could appreciate their music anymore. That's why I love your show, it's like listening for the first time. You two have gone into the right business, you really appreciate good music! The character Pink is a rock star suffering severe depression and on the brink of insanity. He's unhealthy, not eating and heavily drinking and smoking. His wife has left him and is sleeping with another man. He was born out of a terrible war, with the memory of Britain being bombed, and his father dying. Like most humans he'd probably grow up hating and fearing fascist Hitler type people. "Worms" are negative thoughts like, hatred, racism, sexism, etc., "worming" their way into a person's brain. In the end he was turning into the thing he feared and hated, a fascist. Think of a "brick" as a bad thing happening to you. Pink has had many bad things (bricks) building a wall around his mind, closing out the world. After Comfortably Numb, Pink is finished mentally, and the music represents things going on in his head. Turning into a fascist dictator and eventually blaming himself.
Yes, a ton of symbology in this film, especially here at the end. Keep in mind that this is all happening in the confines of a hotel room in Los Angeles as Pink thinks back on his childhood. The Nazi aspect of the film shows Pink in another form. He even states that Pink was not feeling well, and he's back at the hotel. Bottom line, he's gone certified, toys in the attic, Loonie, insane. This is something that Rodger Waters said that he actually experienced. He said it began at a show when a fan got into it with him, and he spit on the fan. Waters said that he began to feel a serious separation between himself and the fans, thus the wall. So the Nazi scene is Pink or Waters having it out with the audience, going Hiter on them. Sometime after the incident with the audience member, Waters did have a nervous breakdown. A very disturbing film, but fans (90% on Rotten Tomatoes) and critics alike praised it. What does Pink Floyd do that isn't great? Amazing stuff.
He is “out” because he is basically catatonic, a symptom of losing touch with reality. The injection was to likely bring him back so he could go on with the show, a nod to a real life incident Roger experienced, but in a different context.
You guys did a commendable job considering you watched it in pieces and while having to review it for an audience. It took me a few viewings to really "get" the movie. But really the basic tenet was, "Pink" lost his father before he met him, raised by an overbearing mom which really set the stage for how he turned out. Everything else is metaphor. Nice work, guys. FYI you should check out Roger Waters The Wall Live in Berlin. LOTS of special guest singers like Van Morrison, The Band, Cyndi Lauper, and my fave - Sinead O'Connor singing Mother.
The wall is a metaphor for his mental state, building a wall around him, built brick-by-brick from all the bad things that happened to him throughout his life, father dying, mother being over protective, teachers ridiculing him, relationships failing, and so on.
i feel like his mother died too? the quick cut from his mom next to a skeleton to him and his wife in a chapel? as in he eventually lost the one person he felt safe with
He's not promoting Nazism, He's mocking it. He's mocking anyone who blindly follows a movement, like the skinheads etc. that wish to destroy life. Since He is behind His Wall emotionally, His life, and His art displays a cruelty that excludes everything but cold indifference to humanity. Just as The Dark Side Of the Moon deals with the corruption of mankind, Roger, in the past, had a hard time dealing with people who followed their music, to be in the crowd, but did not get the message of darkness, and the warning that each of us must make the decision to walk in the light "of the sun", or be part of the darkness, or eclipsing of that light. When He says "have I been guilty all this time' he speaks for everyone.
I saw it as Rogers response to the rise of the rock superstar. He began to believe that some of them (Pink in this case) could say or do anything and their fans would blindly follow along. He used an extreme example with the semi Nazi imagery, but it fits the narrative.
This representation of 'Pink's' final decent into mental alienation, i.e. the completion of 'The Wall' is in his head and is so disturbing to him that he puts himself on trial. Great reaction👍👍
In "Run Like Hell" Pink goes totally crazy, turning into a dictator who incites his fans, now his followers, to violence which draws parallels to Hitler's rise to power. My favorite lyrics in the song are: “And if you're taking your girlfriend out tonight You'd better park the car well out of sight 'Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks They're gonna send you back to mother in a cardboard box”
“Your lips move, but I can’t hear what u say”… I said that to my mom when this album came out. It was finally a song to dedicate to her. Now I miss her and would give anything to hear her once again.
When you Fela said he turned into a monster what happened you must remember that he is building a wall, and he needs acceptance and Applause. Once he put the final brick in the wall that shut him off from the world. The only way to get applause was to force Applause through fear. This is what we are we as a society are going through right now believe that more than you believe anything else. History repeats itself and this movie was put out 30 years ago. Keep that in mind
Gentlemen, it's been a real pleasure watching this video with you. (All parts included.) For us geezers, The Wall is a part of our upbringing. I was in jr. high when the album came out in '79 (I am old.) and pretty soon all anybody could talk about was the movie. We were intricately involved with the story by this time, and the film, with animation heretofore unseen, blew minds by the thousands. I say you fellows picked out the story pretty well considering you knew nothing of this movie. I very much enjoyed your observations and look forward to hearing from you again soon.
Pink Floyd’s the Wall is one of the most intriguing and imaginative albums in the history of rock music. Since the studio album’s release in 1979, the tour of 1980-81, and the subsequent movie of 1982, the Wall has become synonymous with, if not the very definition of, the term “concept album.” Aurally explosive on record, astoundingly complex on stage, and visually dynamic on the screen, the Wall traces the life of the fictional protagonist, Pink Floyd, from his boyhood days in post-World-War-II England to his self-imposed isolation as a world-renowned rock star, leading to a climax that is as cathartic as it is destructive. From the outset, Pink’s life revolves around an abyss of loss and isolation. Born during the final throes of a war that claimed the lives of nearly 300,000 British soldiers - Pink’s father among them - to an overprotective mother who lavishes equal measures of love and phobia onto her son, Pink begins to build a mental wall between himself and the rest of the world so that he can live in a constant, alienated equilibrium free from life’s emotional troubles. Every incident that causes Pink pain is yet another brick in his ever-growing wall: a fatherless childhood, a domineering mother, an out-of-touch education system bent on producing compliant cogs in the societal wheel, a government that treats its citizens like chess pieces, the superficiality of stardom, an estranged marriage, even the very drugs he turns to in order to find release. As his wall nears completion - each brick further closing him off from the rest of the world - Pink spirals into a veritable Wonderland of insanity. Yet the minute it’s complete, the gravity of his life’s choices sets in. Now shackled to his bricks, Pink watches helplessly (or perhaps fantasizes) as his fragmented psyche coalesces into the very dictatorial persona that antagonized the world during World War II, scarred his nation, killed his father, and, in essence, affected his life from birth. As much as this story tips toward nihilistic victimhood, there also runs a strong existentialist countercurrent in which freedom cannot be separated from personal responsibility. The narrative culminates in a mental trial as theatrically rich as the greatest stage shows, with Pink’s tale ending with a message that is as enigmatic and circular as the rest of his life. Whether it is ultimately viewed as a cynical story about the futility of life, or a hopeful journey of metaphoric death and rebirth, the Wall is certainly a musical milestone worthy of the title “art.”
Back in the late 1990s, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE ONE OF THE PRODUCTION ANIMATION CELS ACTUALLY USED IN THE MOVIE OF THE SEQUENCES OF THE TEACHER......AROUND THE 28:17 mark. It cost around $985.00 back then. I bought it from a gallery in Iowa that specializes in animation art
The key to understanding the movie is in the lyrics. The movie is not just a long series of video clips that accompany the album. The images are just a final piece of the puzzle, the final touch on a magnificent piece of art.
My 2 cents about the nazi part: the people's walls are made by shuting down the feelings (so it won't hurt so much), but, by doing that, they open the door for the real monsters in the society.
Feelings are good if they matter. :) Do they matter? IDK You have to figure it out on your own. Life is each and every one of us all and you have to live your own.
Was born the year in Liverpool The Wall Album was out and listened too this reaction video all the way through Stoned just to see what the reaction was. Was watching it because of D day 80 years 5th June But glad yer guys took time too view it ,,cos this always reminds me of me granddad The Wall
Pink makes a last desperate attempt in his mind to blame the "other" for his issues. The residual racism from his upbringing and new feelings of helplessness when taken in by his manager and "authorities" helped provide the excuse. Also, equating rock worship with fascism is not a huge leap - Bowie and probably a few others had explored the idea first, but Waters took it to its extreme. When Pink finally realizes the real enemy and wall are all within and nowhere and no one else - STOP and THE TRIAL are cued. Thanks for reviewing, but it does take a lot to see and understand this film, especially if you're doing it episodically.
Your Music Mirrors Your Mind Song Suggestion: Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking Band/Artist: Roger Waters Album: Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking Rogers first solo effort. In the scene in the bathroom at the end was from this. Roger presented it to the band for consideration along with The Wall. They chose the latter.
There are elements of fact that did happen to members of the band, mixed with mental imagery and a huge dollop of fiction... It is about a fictional rock star 'Pink'
We all need to watch to understand Where - how- why pinky is coming from. Fifty yrs and this movie 🎥 is number one ☝️ In my home. A masterpiece. Thanks for diving into it.
The story is very deep, and goes through several stages of Pink's life. To explain here the meaning would take to long. Go watch "vrgin rock" lady ( here in tube) break the songs down one at a time. She goes deep and really puts her finger right on it! She never heard it before either, but man, does she understand.
"The animation is so dark" - Yup. All from the mind of Gerald Scarfe. Oddly enough, since the "Steamboat Willy" Mickey Mouse short is in public domain... Gerald did a unauthorized Mickey Mouse short in the 70s called "Long Drawn Trip". You should check out some Pink Floyd music videos that has more of his animation. Pretty dark, and the animation very ahead of its time. Looks almost animated by computer, but all hand drawn!
well done you 2, have watched this countless times and have heard almost every 80/81 live performance of the wall including way too many other live pf shows
Hate is born of sorrow and fear. Humanity is on knife’s edge of decency and self destruction. Every step in every direction has impact that can lead us to joy or unimaginable pain.
Hi **Thank YOU** once again for taking this on it IS a lot especially if you are not a **PinkFloydFanatic** heh just also want to shout out the **Genius Director** Alan Parker his other works of Art are dark & abstract as well as far as i have seen anyway he directed "Angel Heart" "Mississippi Burning" "Angela's Ashes" "Fame" & one of my most fav movies called "Birdy" & more...Just YAY so **Happy** ya conquered **The Wall** heh you guys definitely **ROCK** Now heh **PixieHugz&LuvzALL**
Great Reaction Guys. This movie is very hard to understand as the main character has gone Mad and and you’re watching it from his point of view. I had to watch a few times to understand it. thank you for sharing with us. I love watching with you guys.❤️✌️🌼
The whole film is about pink (roger) and his own up bringing. His dad died in the war, his mother became over protective to the point that and the loss of his dad screwed pink up. The wall is what his mum built around him, it was about knocking that wall down. The song mother highlights how over protective his mother was. He became a pop star with obvious mental health issues, his own marriage failed. Its a look back on his life including growing up without a father figure. The words of the songs tell this story.
During the trial song. He says there must have been a doorway when I came in. He is talking about the wall that has surrounded him all his life. Either through his mother or ongoing by himself. But he understands there was no door to get out of this wall. And now he's stuck in the wall and he's finally coming to the realization during this trial. A trial that he is giving himself in his own mind
He's Oded and the managers just care that he can't do that nights concert so they shoot him up with speed and meds so they don't ave to cancel the show. That's the backstory on Comfortably Numb
I watched this many, many years ago, and while I normally rewatch movies and shows over and over again, I have to say I could never get up the nerve to watch it again. I watch ALOT of really dark stuff. I love true crime, etc...but, after watching this film I just remember feeling SO confused and heavy. Like, really weighed down, so thanks guys for taking me on this journey with you. I had forgotten that Bob Geldof, front man to The Boomtown Rats played Pink. He was a humanitarian, as well and well known for the fact that he founded the charitable supergroup Band Aid in 1984 and organized the Live Aid concerts for the relief of famine in Africa in 1985. I loved the comment about "bigger fish to fry"! Ain't that the truth with this one!! 🤣
This movie has so many layers and so many small details in every scene. It's essentially about traumatic moments in his life, each being another brick in his wall. The scene in Comfortably Numb with him trying to save the rats life was his last memory of compassion before losing all compassion and turning to hatred as an effort to regain some type of control and order in his life. There are so many deep scenes and easter egg type of things in the movie. This is, for the most part, autobiographical of Roger Waters. His father, who was a conscientious objector, was killed at Anzio in WWII. He got very sick as a child and thought he might die and thus the comparison moments to when he got very sick before a concert and the doctors gave him a shot that really messed him up. I hope this helps some.
Bonus information: the person that plays the lead character in the movie “The Wall”is Bob Geldof (he also sings some vocals). Bob Geldof was frontman for the late '70s to mid '80s Irish punk rock band the Boomtown Rats. He had not been an actor. Bob Geldof turned down the role at least twice when it was offered to him. He really did not like Pink Floyd - indeed he had stated that he hated Pink Floyd. Geldof has since organized the charity supergroup Band Aid and the concerts Live Aid and Live 8, and co-wrote "Do They Know It's Christmas?", one of the best-selling singles of all time. Geldof is recognised for his activism, especially anti-poverty efforts concerning Africa. In 1984, he and Midge Ure founded the charity supergroup Band Aid to raise money for famine relief in Ethiopia. They went on to organize the charity super-concert Live Aid the following year and the Live 8 concerts in 2005. Bob Geldof is in part responsible for the last time the main 4 Pink Floyd members got together on stage. The four of them reunited for a benefit concert (Live 8) in 2005. This was the first time since 1981 they had all gotten together for a concert. Do check out the video sometime of the concert. They sounded really good with very little rehearsal after being apart for so long - a tribute to what great musicians they are/were (Rick Wright is now deceased). ultimateclassicrock.com/pink-floyd-live-8-reunion/ ua-cam.com/video/ikDEHygZzlI/v-deo.html Another bonus tidbit of information the director of the movie “The Wall” is Alan Parker. Alan Parker directed another one of my favorite movies that is hard to watch at times because of it’s brutal depictions of racism. The movie “Mississippi Burning” is inspired by real life investigations and trial of the murder by the Klu Klux Klan of f voting rights activists James Chaney, Michael Schwerner, and Andrew Goodman. The movie stars William Dafoe, Gene Hackman, Badja Djola and Brad Dourif. It is a must see if you have not seen it yet.
"Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel..." Everything abut the Wall was and still is as relevant as it ever was. Thanks for watching this with us.
You got there in the end guys. Yes a hard film to comprehend on first watch. Still hard after a few more but so emotionally draining when you realise how hard it can be to sort fact from fiction when you are broken. The world throws so much at us that sometimes the mind takes a little break from reality. We all build walls of one kind or another which can make it hard for others to get close enough to help. I believe this film does a lot to highlight the struggle of mental health issues. We should all strive to build bridges and tear down the walls.
I've watched this dozens and dozens of times since it's release. I didn't get it the first time either. The comments will tell you the deal. Thanks for your reactions. Pink Floyd is unmatched!
😂 the whole time I’m following y’all try to follow the story like, “yes, go that way,” “no don’t go in that room,” and then at the very end I’m like, “yes! Yes, you get it!” The amount of relief I felt at the very end was ridiculous. I definitely recommend checking out just about any of the other films Alan Parker directed, (from Angel Heart to Mississippi Burning to Fame or Evita.) Cabaret (1972,) Green Room (2015,) The Harder They Come (1972,) & 24 Hour Party People (2002) would be good watches-Mostly films about music but that also tell a story: Cabaret is a straight-up musical that takes place in Germany leading up to the rise of fascism, Green Room is about a fictional punk band put in a horrific circumstance, The Harder They Come follows a musician from rural Jamaica, played by Jimmy Cliff, who comes to the big city to make a record and become famous, and 24 hour Party People inspired by the real history of Joy Division, The Happy Mondays, & the label they were both signed to. 🙏🏼☺️ Godspeed.
To add a bit more context since a lot of this film is from a British perspective: There was a lot of post WWII trauma on the English children due to the bombings and being separated from their families either by parents enlisting or being sent to foster homes in the countrysides. After the war, Britain's education system went through a massive reform during which countless children were subject to severe emotional and physical abuse. Abuse at a primary school age is especially damaging and the trauma can follow you for your entire life. The fascism segment is a criticism of the rise in right wing political movements during 80's Britain following the rise of Thatcherism and an economic and immigration crisis. A time during which many skinhead groups terrorized immigrant and minority communities. This whole story is a cycle of isolation. How Pink's lack of a father figure, abuse in school, his only connection to women being his overbearing mother which tainted his ability to connect with women as an adult leading to his wife leaving him, the disconnect he feels as a rock star where everybody around him just wants to use him. All these events over his life isolated someone desperate for connection until he sought refuge in the only people left who would take him: far right fascists. You see this a lot today with all the angry, insecure incels getting drawn to the far right after being isolated and rejected by women and "the left". The Wall, in addition to many things, is a story about how the lack of empathy and ability to emotionally connect to others leads some people to becoming the very monster that started their downward spiral.
Well done guys you got there, its definitely a strong movie and i think you managed it. it's an epic rock opera movie. credit to you for seeing it through! Respect! :O)
The imagery is important here….the worms are all the things that happen to us that eat into us and affect our psyche…..and become “bricks”…one by one, to help us build a wall between us and everyone else to protect ourselves. The film elaborates greatly on the album.
I think the meaning is he had built a wall to protect his tormented identity. But that wall has killed him (*) and turned himself into what he was afraid of. (* symbolized by the worms eating his old being. The mask he tears off later symbolizes the birth of his new and fearless, but "wrong" personality grown by the wall he built. And finally he destroyed that building that maked him inhuman.)
When our cinema had a new movie we often walked to the exit to see if people from to 7pm viewing was happy or unhappy. They who got out after the wall didn't say a thing, they where like zombies trying to figure out what thet had seen.
i always thought of pink being in a psychotic break from the moment he starts trashing the room until the end of the movie. the band manager "doctor" probably injects him with narcan or something for an overdose, but pink isn't on any drugs at all. he's just on a different plane
in his lawsuit, he told the other fellas you can have the name, I just want "The Wall" hence he toured Roger Water's The Wall for a while...but the best show I've ever seen (except for Genesis Mirrors tour 1978!)🤓
Everything that happen to him was just another brick added to the wall he was building to keep people away. When he was the leader of the Hammer party He was mad that his dad was killed in the war so He made his own party that would equal Hitler's Germany. If they were stronger his dad would have lived. That is why he asked if you want to see Britannia rule again. In the Riot scenes.It was a pleasure watching the movie again with both of you :o)
Thanks for a great reaction from you two and all the insightful comments below. I haven't seen film in a long time since I have it on VHS. Next up I hope is the Tommy movie you can watch the same way. Of course, you need to finish the Who album on your other channel. You have two more sides, right?
You were on the right path. Just take it a step further…. Once you’ve built your walk to shut everything out, you’ve effectively isolated yourself from reality … and in pink’s case… he went crazy.
Actually, it's him going through a chrysalis state. A metamorphosis. Like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly but in this case, something grotesque and twisted.
On this date in 1980, PINK FLOYD's album THE WALL went to No. 1 on the Billboard Top 200 Album Chart (Jan 18, 1980). COMFORTABLY NUMB NOTE: I've put together this edit that combines live concert footage with scenes from the 1982 film 'The Wall'. Roger Waters wrote the lyrics. While many people thought the song was about drugs, Waters claims it is not. The lyrics are about what he felt like as a child when he was sick with a fever. As an adult, he got that feeling again sometimes, entering a state of delirium, where he felt detached from reality. He told Mojo magazine (December 2009) that the lines, "When I was a child I had a fever/My hands felt just like two balloons" were autobiographical. He explained: "I remember having the flu or something, an infection with a temperature of 105 and being delirious. It wasn't like the hands looked like balloons, but they looked way too big, frightening. A lot of people think those lines are about masturbation. God knows why." In a radio interview around 1980 with Jim Ladd from KLOS in Los Angeles, Waters said part of the song is about the time he got hepatitis but didn't know it. Pink Floyd had to do a show that night in Philadelphia, and the doctor Roger saw gave him a sedative to help the pain, thinking it was a stomach disorder. At the show, Roger's hands were numb "like two toy balloons." He was unable to focus, but also realized the fans didn't care because they were so busy screaming, hence "comfortably" numb. He said most of The Wall is about alienation between the audience and band. Exploring further, Mojo asked Waters about the line, "That'll keep you going through the show," referring to getting medicated before going on-stage. He explained: "That comes from a specific show at the Spectrum in Philadelphia (June 29, 1977). I had stomach cramps so bad that I thought I wasn't able to go on. A doctor backstage gave me a shot of something that I swear to God would have killed a f---ing elephant. I did the whole show hardly able to raise my hand above my knee. He said it was a muscular relaxant. But it rendered me almost insensible. It was so bad that at the end of the show, the audience was baying for more. I couldn't do it. They did the encore about me." Dave Gilmour wrote the music while he was working on a solo album in 1978. He brought it to The Wall sessions and Waters wrote lyrics for it. Gilmour believes this song can be divided into two sections: dark and light. The light are the parts that begin "When I was a child...," which Gilmour sings. The dark are the "Hello, is there anybody in there" parts, which are sung by Waters. Waters and Gilmour had an argument over which version of this to use on the album. They ended up editing two takes together as a compromise. Dave Gilmour said in Guitar World February 1993: "Well, there were two recordings of that, which me and Roger argued about. I'd written it when I was doing my first solo album [David Gilmour, 1978]. We changed the key of the song's opening the E to B, I think. The verse stayed exactly the same. Then we had to add a little bit, because Roger wanted to do the line, 'I have become comfortably numb.' Other than that, it was very, very simple to write. But the arguments on it were about how it should be mixed and which track we should use. We'd done one track with Nick Mason an drums that I thought was too rough and sloppy. We had another go at it and I thought that the second take was better. Roger disagreed. It was more an ego thing than anything else. We really went head to head with each other over such a minor thing. I probably couldn't tell the difference if you put both versions on a record today. But, anyway, it wound up with us taking a fill out of one version and putting it into another version." This was the last song Waters and Gilmour wrote together. In 1986 Waters left the band and felt there should be no Pink Floyd without him. When they played this on The Wall tour, a 35-foot wall was erected between the band and the audience as part of the show. As the wall went up, Gilmour was raised above it on a hydraulic lift to perform the guitar solo while Waters was spotlighted in front of the wall below. It was Gilmour's favorite part of the show. In the movie The Wall, this plays in a scene where the main character, a rock star named "Pink," loses his mind and enters a catatonic state before a show. It was similar to what Syd Barrett, an original member of the band, went through in 1968 when he became mentally ill and was kicked out of the band. This song is the final step in Pink's (Roger Water's) transformation into the Neo-Nazi, fascist character you see in the movie The Wall. Medics and the band manager come in and give Pink a shot to pull him out of his catatonic stupor, the manager pays protesting Meds some cash to shut up and let him take Pink to the concert in the state he's in (obviously a threat to his health, but the Meds, who probably don't make enough money, accept). In the movie Pink begins to melt on the way there, and underneath he finds that he is the cruel, fascist model of a Nazi party representative by the time he arrives at the concert. Supporting this, afterwards are the songs "The Show Must Go On" (Pink realizing as he gets to the show that there isn't really any turning back, and he's forced to go on-stage), "In the Flesh II" (the redone version of the first song on the album, now with Nazi-Pink singing, threatening random minorities), and "Run Like Hell" (after the crowd, loving nazi-Pink, has been whipped into a frenzy, now hunting minorities in the street, much like late 1930 Germany). While it does seem that this is a song about the "joy of heroin," it has little, if any connection to heroin even if it's condition resembles that of somebody who's totally wasted. Gilmour's second guitar solo on "Comfortably Numb" regularly appears in Best Guitar Solo of All Time polls. In an August 2006 poll by viewers of TV music channel Planet Rock it was voted the greatest guitar solo of all time. For the solo, the Pink Floyd guitarist used a heavy pick on his Fender Strat with maple neck through a Big Muff and delay via a Hiwatt amp and a Yamaha RA-200 rotating speaker cabinet. Gilmour told Guitar World that the solo didn't take long to develop: "I just went out into the studio and banged out 5 or 6 solos. From there I just followed my usual procedure, which is to listen back to each solo and mark out bar lines, saying which bits are good. In other words, I make a chart, putting ticks and crosses on different bars as I count through: two ticks if it's really good, one tick if it's good and cross if it's no go. Then I just follow the chart, whipping one fader up, then another fader, jumping from phrase to phrase and trying to make a really nice solo all the way through. That's the way we did it on 'Comfortably Numb.' It wasn't that difficult. But sometimes you find yourself jumping from one note to another in an impossible way. Then you have to go to another place and find a transition that sounds more natural."
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I was in 12th grade when this was released. Roger never explained the details. It is meant to be interpreted by each individual. War, mental disorders, societal evils, drugs, loneliness, overbearing mothers, and their sons, etc.
There is the story of how and why Roger decided to write the album and the story within the album itself. Add in some of the issues that were going on in the UK in the 70s and 80s and it can be pretty confusing.
Quick note: he did not kill his mom or wife. He just put them through hell.
The movie is essentially about a rock star who, due to various traumas throughout his life (losing his father, an overbearing mother, an abusive schoolmaster/school system) has never learned how to properly relate to other people. He's burnt out from drugs and being on the road, disillusioned with fame and unable to communicate with his wife, who he soon learns has turned to another man for the intimacy he's unable to give her. He's just at the end of his rope. As he sits in a hotel room before a show one night, he starts ruminating on all of these things and slowly starts going crazy. Things reach a climax when after the show that night, a groupie follows him back to his hotel room, even though he expresses no interest in her. As she is trying to seduce him, all of his anger and frustration boils over and he trashes the room, nearly injuring or killing the groupie who runs away. He injures himself severely and presumably medicates himself with drugs. During this time, as part of an attempt to break away from his "rock star image", and presumably due to his ongoing mental breakdown, he shaves off his hair and eyebrows (this part was based on a real incident involving Syd Barrett. He showed up in the studio while the band was recording "Wish You Were Here", 5 years after the last time any of them had seen him, and nobody recognized him due to his weight gain and the fact that he had shaved his head completely bald, including his eyebrows.)
After this, Pink slips back into a drug induced sleep. His manager breaks into his room the next night as he has not shown up for the next concert. He is administered more drugs which, mixed with the ones he has already taken and his already fragile mental state, induces a psychotic break during which he imagines himself becoming a Hitleresque figure who takes out all his anger on his audience. Finally, we briefly glimpse him back in the real world hiding in a bathroom stall (either before or after the show) where he imagines himself being put on trial for his treatment of his wife and mother and closing himself off to people in general. (Also, the "worms" shown/referred to throughout this sequence are symbolic of negative thoughts that eat away at you and turn you into a "monster" if you don't deal with them.) It's left ambiguous as to what happens to Pink after his mental "wall" is torn down.
Anyway, interesting side note: this final sequence where Pink imagines himself becoming a fascist dictator was based on the actual event which inspired Roger to start writing The Wall. By the late 70s with Floyd becoming one of the biggest bands in the world, he had gotten to the point of hating their new audience, getting pissed at them doing things like setting off fireworks and shouting and screaming over their quieter songs, which culminated one night in him beckoning a particularly loud fan closer to the stage and then spitting on him when he got close enough. He then imagined erecting a wall between the band and the audience which further inspired him to reflect on all the things that had caused him to close himself off from or "build a wall between" not just the audience, but the world in general.
Syd also would put a jelly substance on his face before getting on stage and when the lights hit it it would slowly melt giving the illusion his face was melting.
He was kind of a mad genius.
Nailed it.
Well done ! That pretty much sums it up
I've understood all ways it's concept ...im sayn in litteraly drawn chocolate starfish in all judge is an ass hole
@@emcsquared8681it was a mixture of quaaludes and hair gel. The stage lights melted it and it ran down his face. The audience thought he was melting. Lots of lsd lots and lots. Or it was STP that could have got him. People were dosing Syd.
After all these years, I just realized Pink's manager is the same guy the played Eddy in Who Framed Rodger Rabbit.
The late, great British actor Bob Hoskins. If you haven't seen him in "The Long Good Friday", one of the finest gangster movies ever made, you really must. He is amazing in it.
Yep
@@SpaceOdditiesLive Lest we forget, Unleashed (2005 film) w/Jet Li, where we see Hoskins portray Bart, another gangster type.
@@tombudreau ah yes, I had forgotten that! Thanks for reminding me!
Check out the 1991 Super Mario Bros movie, he makes an excellent Brooklyn plumber
Both Roger Waters and Syd Barrett were war orphans and the character of Pink is a mix of both them. Comfortably Numb is referred to an episode really happened: Roger had a kidney stones episode during a tour, and in order to make him perform he was given strong anaesthetics. He ended up playing on stage "completely numb"
It is confusing because it is mostly from his point of view and he is mad. The big message is that wars create mad people and mad people create wars - so the cycle of pain continues.
In case you’re missing it, the fascist ideations are part of the manifestation of Pink’s descent into madness. It’s in his mind.
I get your point. He was pushed into insanity and belief in nothing. Just like our children are being taught in every level of school. Our educational system is 100% Marxist. They believe in controlling children’s opinions by punching it into them every single fu…ng day. The Marxist democrat party needs to be defeated right now.
Yes. It's a representation of how he's becoming even more "hard" to try to deal with his demons.
@@paxonearth And loss of humanity. "The show must go on" at any cost. Who knows what he was injected with at that point. His former self clearly rots away and he re-emerge with a delusional personality.
And it also touches on one of the underlying themes of the album/film. The cyclical nature of love & hate. On the original vinyl albums, the outtrack at the end of the second side of the second disc ends with the very last thing on the album being "Isn't this where we…" and very quietly on the intro of the first track on the first disc begins with "…where we come in?"
So the entire album actually loops on itself.
So the cyclical, ironic, aspect fo the fascist hate that caused WWII that would kill Pink/Water's dad would begin the build-up of isolation and disconnection of ones humanity that would eventually give rise to fascist Pink, leading to (albeit imagined) angry, hatred and lashing out at everything that (in Pin's mind) "wronged him" which would/could lead to the very thing that killed his father and started it all.
The album and film is very very dee, and the deep you dig and peel back the onion, the more interconnected and profound it is.
Here are the lyrics to "Outside The Wall", the song that you cut off just as the credits began to roll. Kind of an important summation of what we all went through watching this film:
"All alone or in twos, the ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall
Some hand in hand, some gather together in bands
The bleeding hearts and the artists make their stand
And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall"
(Isn't this where-)
...we came in (from the start of the album)
Indicating that it's one great loop or cycle
@@FSMDog yes sir!! 😉👍
And one of the best songs on an already incredible album
Little known fact: Those near-bald guys following Pink around and causing chaos in the city are REAL skinheads hired for the film. Around this point, the director and cartoonist Gerald Scarfe were scared - the director had to keep yelling "Cut!" to get them to stop.
As you go through life, you start becoming hardened to things so that it won't affect you emotionally anymore. Every piece of pain in your life becomes a brick in the wall so it won't affect you in the future.
Dude be trippin on LSD....that's what the animation is all about, see?. His underlying problem that f*cked up his head was losing his father in WW II. His father was K.I.A. at the Anzio Beachhead by a German Stuka Dive Bomber. The scene where his father ran into the dugout to use the field radio but was killed. He took on the evil persona of the German high command that took his father away, when he was but just a little boy. The loss of his father at such an early age combined with his abuse of powerful drugs really damaged him beyond repair. There are many layers to the film, soundtrack. I love Pink Floyd's "The Wall". I was born in the 60's. Was a child of the 70's. And came of age in the best decade of all, the 1980's. I owned the "The Wall" on VHS back in the day. Also bought a copy of this album, and several on audio cassette tape. Actually I wore out several cassette tapes because they were constantly played so much. If I've heard that album and watched the movie once....I must have done it hundreds of times. No lie. Know every word by heart. LOVE FLOYD. All their stuff. I must let you know, guys, that I am so thankful to you for reacting to this. This is wicked cool. Once again, thanks. I have not seen anyone do this one. Everyone is stuck on the "PULSE" thingy. Nah...that is NOT where it's at. I wish more young people of your generation would check out Pink Floyd's "The Wall", for real, like you guys have. Big shoutout from this old, longhaired, hippy, rocker dude in the mountains of Gatlinburg, Tennessee. Be seeing ya on the next. Go with God. Peace. Keep-a-rocking. Later, dudes.
nice series of reactions. i do wish you had let the last song, "outside the wall", play through (during the credits) because it sums everything up. it says that although people may wall themselves up inside their pain and anger, it can be just as hard for those "outside the wall" trying to reach you to help you. i never liked the placement of the song in the film. because it played over the credits a lot of people were walking out of theaters,and missed it.
I've listened to Pink Floyd my whole life. I never thought I could appreciate their music anymore. That's why I love your show, it's like listening for the first time. You two have gone into the right business, you really appreciate good music!
The character Pink is a rock star suffering severe depression and on the brink of insanity. He's unhealthy, not eating and heavily drinking and smoking. His wife has left him and is sleeping with another man. He was born out of a terrible war, with the memory of Britain being bombed, and his father dying. Like most humans he'd probably grow up hating and fearing fascist Hitler type people. "Worms" are negative thoughts like, hatred, racism, sexism, etc., "worming" their way into a person's brain. In the end he was turning into the thing he feared and hated, a fascist. Think of a "brick" as a bad thing happening to you. Pink has had many bad things (bricks) building a wall around his mind, closing out the world. After Comfortably Numb, Pink is finished mentally, and the music represents things going on in his head. Turning into a fascist dictator and eventually blaming himself.
Yes, a ton of symbology in this film, especially here at the end. Keep in mind that this is all happening in the confines of a hotel room in Los Angeles as Pink thinks back on his childhood. The Nazi aspect of the film shows Pink in another form. He even states that Pink was not feeling well, and he's back at the hotel. Bottom line, he's gone certified, toys in the attic, Loonie, insane. This is something that Rodger Waters said that he actually experienced. He said it began at a show when a fan got into it with him, and he spit on the fan. Waters said that he began to feel a serious separation between himself and the fans, thus the wall. So the Nazi scene is Pink or Waters having it out with the audience, going Hiter on them. Sometime after the incident with the audience member, Waters did have a nervous breakdown. A very disturbing film, but fans (90% on Rotten Tomatoes) and critics alike praised it. What does Pink Floyd do that isn't great? Amazing stuff.
I'm 70. In the old days we would say, "wow man! That was a trip!!" Think of it more artsy than literal guys. Glad you took it on!
for me my first watch was without context right before the peak of 3 tabs. yeah. id say so 🥴
everything is so dumbed down these days, anything abstract throws people off
He is “out” because he is basically catatonic, a symptom of losing touch with reality. The injection was to likely bring him back so he could go on with the show, a nod to a real life incident Roger experienced, but in a different context.
You guys did a commendable job considering you watched it in pieces and while having to review it for an audience. It took me a few viewings to really "get" the movie. But really the basic tenet was, "Pink" lost his father before he met him, raised by an overbearing mom which really set the stage for how he turned out. Everything else is metaphor. Nice work, guys. FYI you should check out Roger Waters The Wall Live in Berlin. LOTS of special guest singers like Van Morrison, The Band, Cyndi Lauper, and my fave - Sinead O'Connor singing Mother.
love it ! Three generations listened to this !
The wall is a metaphor for his mental state, building a wall around him, built brick-by-brick from all the bad things that happened to him throughout his life, father dying, mother being over protective, teachers ridiculing him, relationships failing, and so on.
Thanks Joel!!
The wall
Tear it dowm
i feel like his mother died too? the quick cut from his mom next to a skeleton to him and his wife in a chapel? as in he eventually lost the one person he felt safe with
He's not promoting Nazism, He's mocking it. He's mocking anyone who blindly follows a movement, like the skinheads etc. that wish to destroy life. Since He is behind His Wall
emotionally, His life, and His art displays a cruelty that excludes everything but cold indifference to humanity. Just as The Dark Side Of the Moon deals with the corruption of mankind,
Roger, in the past, had a hard time dealing with people who followed their music, to be in the crowd, but did not get the message of darkness, and the warning that each of us must
make the decision to walk in the light "of the sun", or be part of the darkness, or eclipsing of that light. When He says "have I been guilty all this time' he speaks for everyone.
I saw it as Rogers response to the rise of the rock superstar. He began to believe that some of them (Pink in this case) could say or do anything and their fans would blindly follow along. He used an extreme example with the semi Nazi imagery, but it fits the narrative.
This representation of 'Pink's' final decent into mental alienation, i.e. the completion of 'The Wall' is in his head and is so disturbing to him that he puts himself on trial. Great reaction👍👍
In "Run Like Hell" Pink goes totally crazy, turning into a dictator who incites his fans, now his followers, to violence which draws parallels to Hitler's rise to power. My favorite lyrics in the song are:
“And if you're taking your girlfriend out tonight
You'd better park the car well out of sight
'Cause if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks
They're gonna send you back to mother in a cardboard box”
“Your lips move, but I can’t hear what u say”… I said that to my mom when this album came out. It was finally a song to dedicate to her. Now I miss her and would give anything to hear her once again.
When you Fela said he turned into a monster what happened you must remember that he is building a wall, and he needs acceptance and Applause. Once he put the final brick in the wall that shut him off from the world. The only way to get applause was to force Applause through fear. This is what we are we as a society are going through right now believe that more than you believe anything else. History repeats itself and this movie was put out 30 years ago. Keep that in mind
Gentlemen, it's been a real pleasure watching this video with you. (All parts included.) For us geezers, The Wall is a part of our upbringing. I was in jr. high when the album came out in '79 (I am old.) and pretty soon all anybody could talk about was the movie. We were intricately involved with the story by this time, and the film, with animation heretofore unseen, blew minds by the thousands. I say you fellows picked out the story pretty well considering you knew nothing of this movie. I very much enjoyed your observations and look forward to hearing from you again soon.
Pink Floyd’s the Wall is one of the most intriguing and imaginative albums in the history of rock music. Since the studio album’s release in 1979, the tour of 1980-81, and the subsequent movie of 1982, the Wall has become synonymous with, if not the very definition of, the term “concept album.” Aurally explosive on record, astoundingly complex on stage, and visually dynamic on the screen, the Wall traces the life of the fictional protagonist, Pink Floyd, from his boyhood days in post-World-War-II England to his self-imposed isolation as a world-renowned rock star, leading to a climax that is as cathartic as it is destructive.
From the outset, Pink’s life revolves around an abyss of loss and isolation. Born during the final throes of a war that claimed the lives of nearly 300,000 British soldiers - Pink’s father among them - to an overprotective mother who lavishes equal measures of love and phobia onto her son, Pink begins to build a mental wall between himself and the rest of the world so that he can live in a constant, alienated equilibrium free from life’s emotional troubles. Every incident that causes Pink pain is yet another brick in his ever-growing wall: a fatherless childhood, a domineering mother, an out-of-touch education system bent on producing compliant cogs in the societal wheel, a government that treats its citizens like chess pieces, the superficiality of stardom, an estranged marriage, even the very drugs he turns to in order to find release. As his wall nears completion - each brick further closing him off from the rest of the world - Pink spirals into a veritable Wonderland of insanity. Yet the minute it’s complete, the gravity of his life’s choices sets in. Now shackled to his bricks, Pink watches helplessly (or perhaps fantasizes) as his fragmented psyche coalesces into the very dictatorial persona that antagonized the world during World War II, scarred his nation, killed his father, and, in essence, affected his life from birth. As much as this story tips toward nihilistic victimhood, there also runs a strong existentialist countercurrent in which freedom cannot be separated from personal responsibility. The narrative culminates in a mental trial as theatrically rich as the greatest stage shows, with Pink’s tale ending with a message that is as enigmatic and circular as the rest of his life. Whether it is ultimately viewed as a cynical story about the futility of life, or a hopeful journey of metaphoric death and rebirth, the Wall is certainly a musical milestone worthy of the title “art.”
This is how you react and review the wall.Good job guys!
Back in the late 1990s, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE ONE OF THE PRODUCTION ANIMATION CELS ACTUALLY USED IN THE MOVIE OF THE SEQUENCES OF THE TEACHER......AROUND THE 28:17 mark. It cost around $985.00 back then. I bought it from a gallery in Iowa that specializes in animation art
The Wall was about the descent into madness..Syd's in particular, but the more as the worldwide human condition. So heavy.
The key to understanding the movie is in the lyrics. The movie is not just a long series of video clips that accompany the album. The images are just a final piece of the puzzle, the final touch on a magnificent piece of art.
My 2 cents about the nazi part: the people's walls are made by shuting down the feelings (so it won't hurt so much), but, by doing that, they open the door for the real monsters in the society.
Lost my dad as a teen, this album has been speaking to me since it was released.
this is one of the greatest movies on the planet - one day, it'll get the credit it deserves !!
The Wall is one man's decent into madness. This last part was his own hallucination. Then finally tearing down the (his) wall.
So enjoyable watching you two work it out in the end. Priceless.
Feelings are good if they matter.
:)
Do they matter?
IDK
You have to figure it out on your own.
Life is each and every one of us all and you have to live your own.
This is his descent into madness. He said Pink is still back at the hotel when he was giving his speech
Was born the year in Liverpool The Wall Album was out and listened too this reaction video all the way through Stoned just to see what the reaction was. Was watching it because of D day 80 years 5th June
But glad yer guys took time too view it ,,cos this always reminds me of me granddad The Wall
If you're interested, the war film he was watching was "The Dambusters." It's a true story of the R.A.F.
The last song as the credits rolled kind of tied it all together.
Pink makes a last desperate attempt in his mind to blame the "other" for his issues. The residual racism from his upbringing and new feelings of helplessness when taken in by his manager and "authorities" helped provide the excuse. Also, equating rock worship with fascism is not a huge leap - Bowie and probably a few others had explored the idea first, but Waters took it to its extreme.
When Pink finally realizes the real enemy and wall are all within and nowhere and no one else - STOP and THE TRIAL are cued.
Thanks for reviewing, but it does take a lot to see and understand this film, especially if you're doing it episodically.
Roger’s lyrical genius and concept brilliance is borne out of pain and loss.
Your Music Mirrors Your Mind
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Rogers first solo effort. In the scene in the bathroom at the end was from this. Roger presented it to the band for consideration along with The Wall. They chose the latter.
There are elements of fact that did happen to members of the band, mixed with mental imagery and a huge dollop of fiction...
It is about a fictional rock star 'Pink'
Intense. What courage for an artist to bare himself like that. Thank you Roger Walters for being so fundamental yesterday, today and always.
We all need to watch to understand
Where - how- why pinky is coming from.
Fifty yrs and this movie 🎥 is number one ☝️
In my home.
A masterpiece.
Thanks for diving into it.
The story is very deep, and goes through several stages of Pink's life. To explain here the meaning would take to long. Go watch "vrgin rock" lady ( here in tube) break the songs down one at a time. She goes deep and really puts her finger right on it! She never heard it before either, but man, does she understand.
The end-song is the closure. The song that binds it all together... And you decided to have a chat... To all else: "Outside the wall"
"The animation is so dark" - Yup. All from the mind of Gerald Scarfe. Oddly enough, since the "Steamboat Willy" Mickey Mouse short is in public domain... Gerald did a unauthorized Mickey Mouse short in the 70s called "Long Drawn Trip". You should check out some Pink Floyd music videos that has more of his animation. Pretty dark, and the animation very ahead of its time. Looks almost animated by computer, but all hand drawn!
well done you 2, have watched this countless times and have heard almost every 80/81 live performance of the wall including way too many other live pf shows
Hate is born of sorrow and fear. Humanity is on knife’s edge of decency and self destruction. Every step in every direction has impact that can lead us to joy or unimaginable pain.
Hi **Thank YOU** once again for taking this on it IS a lot especially if you are not a **PinkFloydFanatic** heh just also want to shout out the **Genius Director** Alan Parker his other works of Art are dark & abstract as well as far as i have seen anyway he directed "Angel Heart" "Mississippi Burning" "Angela's Ashes" "Fame" & one of my most fav movies called "Birdy" & more...Just YAY so **Happy** ya conquered **The Wall** heh you guys definitely **ROCK** Now heh **PixieHugz&LuvzALL**
Great Reaction Guys. This movie is very hard to understand as the main character has gone Mad and and you’re watching it from his point of view. I had to watch a few times to understand it. thank you for sharing with us. I love watching with you guys.❤️✌️🌼
I don’t know how I missed this in my feed, but I’m watching it now!
You should check out Roger Waters tour of this album. The stage show is something incredible and the songs sound so much better live. 10 out of 10
I’ve been with you guys almost from the beginning. Missed completely The Wall movie reaction. Damn. Gotta go back to the beginning.
The whole film is about pink (roger) and his own up bringing. His dad died in the war, his mother became over protective to the point that and the loss of his dad screwed pink up. The wall is what his mum built around him, it was about knocking that wall down. The song mother highlights how over protective his mother was. He became a pop star with obvious mental health issues, his own marriage failed. Its a look back on his life including growing up without a father figure. The words of the songs tell this story.
During the trial song. He says there must have been a doorway when I came in. He is talking about the wall that has surrounded him all his life. Either through his mother or ongoing by himself. But he understands there was no door to get out of this wall. And now he's stuck in the wall and he's finally coming to the realization during this trial. A trial that he is giving himself in his own mind
I can always count on you two to come through. Thank you.
Nice reaction! You guys nailed a true masterpiece to play and react too!
He's Oded and the managers just care that he can't do that nights concert so they shoot him up with speed and meds so they don't ave to cancel the show. That's the backstory on Comfortably Numb
I watched this many, many years ago, and while I normally rewatch movies and shows over and over again, I have to say I could never get up the nerve to watch it again. I watch ALOT of really dark stuff. I love true crime, etc...but, after watching this film I just remember feeling SO confused and heavy. Like, really weighed down, so thanks guys for taking me on this journey with you. I had forgotten that Bob Geldof, front man to The Boomtown Rats played Pink. He was a humanitarian, as well and well known for the fact that he founded the charitable supergroup Band Aid in 1984 and organized the Live Aid concerts for the relief of famine in Africa in 1985. I loved the comment about "bigger fish to fry"! Ain't that the truth with this one!! 🤣
This film became a mainstay at several movie houses, across the country, being shown at midnight once every week, for years.
This movie has so many layers and so many small details in every scene. It's essentially about traumatic moments in his life, each being another brick in his wall. The scene in Comfortably Numb with him trying to save the rats life was his last memory of compassion before losing all compassion and turning to hatred as an effort to regain some type of control and order in his life. There are so many deep scenes and easter egg type of things in the movie.
This is, for the most part, autobiographical of Roger Waters. His father, who was a conscientious objector, was killed at Anzio in WWII. He got very sick as a child and thought he might die and thus the comparison moments to when he got very sick before a concert and the doctors gave him a shot that really messed him up.
I hope this helps some.
So good on you guys for doing the whole sections not just one song at a time.
Bonus information: the person that plays the lead character in the movie “The Wall”is Bob Geldof (he also sings some vocals).
Bob Geldof was frontman for the late '70s to mid '80s Irish punk rock band the Boomtown Rats. He had not been an actor. Bob Geldof turned down the role at least twice when it was offered to him. He really did not like Pink Floyd - indeed he had stated that he hated Pink Floyd.
Geldof has since organized the charity supergroup Band Aid and the concerts Live Aid and Live 8, and co-wrote "Do They Know It's Christmas?", one of the best-selling singles of all time.
Geldof is recognised for his activism, especially anti-poverty efforts concerning Africa. In 1984, he and Midge Ure founded the charity supergroup Band Aid to raise money for famine relief in Ethiopia. They went on to organize the charity super-concert Live Aid the following year and the Live 8 concerts in 2005.
Bob Geldof is in part responsible for the last time the main 4 Pink Floyd members got together on stage. The four of them reunited for a benefit concert (Live 8) in 2005. This was the first time since 1981 they had all gotten together for a concert. Do check out the video sometime of the concert. They sounded really good with very little rehearsal after being apart for so long - a tribute to what great musicians they are/were (Rick Wright is now deceased).
ultimateclassicrock.com/pink-floyd-live-8-reunion/
ua-cam.com/video/ikDEHygZzlI/v-deo.html
Another bonus tidbit of information the director of the movie “The Wall” is Alan Parker. Alan Parker directed another one of my favorite movies that is hard to watch at times because of it’s brutal depictions of racism. The movie “Mississippi Burning” is inspired by real life investigations and trial of the murder by the Klu Klux Klan of f voting rights activists James Chaney, Michael Schwerner, and Andrew Goodman. The movie stars William Dafoe, Gene Hackman, Badja Djola and Brad Dourif. It is a must see if you have not seen it yet.
Most people don't realize the significance of the rat.... It was something he connected with and loved, and it died too.
"Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel..."
Everything abut the Wall was and still is as relevant as it ever was.
Thanks for watching this with us.
Time Immemorial **Nod**
I've seen The Wall at least 100 times. In the end I just absorb it as Roger's autobiography in a wonderful film.
You got there in the end guys. Yes a hard film to comprehend on first watch. Still hard after a few more but so emotionally draining when you realise how hard it can be to sort fact from fiction when you are broken. The world throws so much at us that sometimes the mind takes a little break from reality. We all build walls of one kind or another which can make it hard for others to get close enough to help.
I believe this film does a lot to highlight the struggle of mental health issues.
We should all strive to build bridges and tear down the walls.
So awesome that you guys did this. Thanks man! It’s a masterpiece on top of a masterpiece album. Fantastic job.
You said the magic words. "a lot of stuff leading up to this."
Its all about ptsd and how every person, who deals with trauma goes through it in different manners.
Comfortably numb sparks the vibe of the infamous Rock n Roll Doctors on big tours to me.😘☮🕊
I've watched this dozens and dozens of times since it's release. I didn't get it the first time either. The comments will tell you the deal. Thanks for your reactions. Pink Floyd is unmatched!
A lack of empathy leads to fascism, that's the core of the message.
True. Too much empathy can also lead to fascism as well.
@@PresUlyssesSGrantexactly.
Pink Floyd are the greatest Syd Barrett tribute act - fact!!!! 🤔🎶🎸😎🙌👍
😂 the whole time I’m following y’all try to follow the story like, “yes, go that way,” “no don’t go in that room,” and then at the very end I’m like, “yes! Yes, you get it!” The amount of relief I felt at the very end was ridiculous.
I definitely recommend checking out just about any of the other films Alan Parker directed, (from Angel Heart to Mississippi Burning to Fame or Evita.)
Cabaret (1972,) Green Room (2015,) The Harder They Come (1972,) & 24 Hour Party People (2002) would be good watches-Mostly films about music but that also tell a story: Cabaret is a straight-up musical that takes place in Germany leading up to the rise of fascism, Green Room is about a fictional punk band put in a horrific circumstance, The Harder They Come follows a musician from rural Jamaica, played by Jimmy Cliff, who comes to the big city to make a record and become famous, and 24 hour Party People inspired by the real history of Joy Division, The Happy Mondays, & the label they were both signed to.
🙏🏼☺️ Godspeed.
What fun to watch 😊 I am so tempted to narrarate like we all tried to back when the movie first came out.. everyone has an interpretation
To add a bit more context since a lot of this film is from a British perspective: There was a lot of post WWII trauma on the English children due to the bombings and being separated from their families either by parents enlisting or being sent to foster homes in the countrysides. After the war, Britain's education system went through a massive reform during which countless children were subject to severe emotional and physical abuse. Abuse at a primary school age is especially damaging and the trauma can follow you for your entire life. The fascism segment is a criticism of the rise in right wing political movements during 80's Britain following the rise of Thatcherism and an economic and immigration crisis. A time during which many skinhead groups terrorized immigrant and minority communities. This whole story is a cycle of isolation. How Pink's lack of a father figure, abuse in school, his only connection to women being his overbearing mother which tainted his ability to connect with women as an adult leading to his wife leaving him, the disconnect he feels as a rock star where everybody around him just wants to use him. All these events over his life isolated someone desperate for connection until he sought refuge in the only people left who would take him: far right fascists. You see this a lot today with all the angry, insecure incels getting drawn to the far right after being isolated and rejected by women and "the left". The Wall, in addition to many things, is a story about how the lack of empathy and ability to emotionally connect to others leads some people to becoming the very monster that started their downward spiral.
Thank You !!!
From what I've gathered by watching your guys reaction, you know very little of symbolism, and how are you late with rock and roll songs
Well done guys you got there, its definitely a strong movie and i think you managed it. it's an epic rock opera movie. credit to you for seeing it through! Respect! :O)
The imagery is important here….the worms are all the things that happen to us that eat into us and affect our psyche…..and become “bricks”…one by one, to help us build a wall between us and everyone else to protect ourselves.
The film elaborates greatly on the album.
1:20 he saw/ scared himself and thought oh .. well I can’t end up like that. Imma have to rethink this wall thing
Total mind trip of a movie. Looking forward to more reactions to more midnight movie classics
I think the meaning is he had built a wall to protect his tormented identity. But that wall has killed him (*) and turned himself into what he was afraid of.
(* symbolized by the worms eating his old being. The mask he tears off later symbolizes the birth of his new and fearless, but "wrong" personality grown by the wall he built. And finally he destroyed that building that maked him inhuman.)
When our cinema had a new movie we often walked to the exit to see if people from to 7pm viewing was happy or unhappy.
They who got out after the wall didn't say a thing, they where like zombies trying to figure out what thet had seen.
i always thought of pink being in a psychotic break from the moment he starts trashing the room until the end of the movie. the band manager "doctor" probably injects him with narcan or something for an overdose, but pink isn't on any drugs at all. he's just on a different plane
He going crazy
Can you imagine what it was like trying to break this masterpiece down on your own without internet lol
YEARS! lol
in his lawsuit, he told the other fellas you can have the name, I just want "The Wall" hence he toured Roger Water's The Wall for a while...but the best show I've ever seen (except for Genesis Mirrors tour 1978!)🤓
Everything that happen to him was just another brick added to the wall he was building to keep people away. When he was the leader of the Hammer party He was mad that his dad was killed in the war so He made his own party that would equal Hitler's Germany. If they were stronger his dad would have lived. That is why he asked if you want to see Britannia rule again. In the Riot scenes.It was a pleasure watching the movie again with both of you :o)
I've always interpreted the 2nd guitar solo on Comfortably numb to represent his complete descent into madness.
Thanks for a great reaction from you two and all the insightful comments below. I haven't seen film in a long time since I have it on VHS.
Next up I hope is the Tommy movie you can watch the same way. Of course, you need to finish the Who album on your other channel. You have two more sides, right?
You’re right. You’re reading my mind. We were going to start the movie and drop side 3 & 4 around the same time.
@@airplay_movies holy shit a Tommy reaction?? I'm in the right place!
I actually have it on DVD for the upgrade in video and sound quality.
You were on the right path. Just take it a step further…. Once you’ve built your walk to shut everything out, you’ve effectively isolated yourself from reality … and in pink’s case… he went crazy.
How he looks going to the car is how he feels in his skin.
Actually, it's him going through a chrysalis state. A metamorphosis. Like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly but in this case, something grotesque and twisted.
On this date in 1980, PINK FLOYD's album THE WALL went to No. 1 on the Billboard Top 200 Album Chart (Jan 18, 1980).
COMFORTABLY NUMB
NOTE: I've put together this edit that combines live concert footage with scenes from the 1982 film 'The Wall'.
Roger Waters wrote the lyrics. While many people thought the song was about drugs, Waters claims it is not.
The lyrics are about what he felt like as a child when he was sick with a fever. As an adult, he got that feeling again sometimes, entering a state of delirium, where he felt detached from reality.
He told Mojo magazine (December 2009) that the lines, "When I was a child I had a fever/My hands felt just like two balloons" were autobiographical.
He explained: "I remember having the flu or something, an infection with a temperature of 105 and being delirious. It wasn't like the hands looked like balloons, but they looked way too big, frightening. A lot of people think those lines are about masturbation. God knows why."
In a radio interview around 1980 with Jim Ladd from KLOS in Los Angeles, Waters said part of the song is about the time he got hepatitis but didn't know it. Pink Floyd had to do a show that night in Philadelphia, and the doctor Roger saw gave him a sedative to help the pain, thinking it was a stomach disorder. At the show, Roger's hands were numb "like two toy balloons." He was unable to focus, but also realized the fans didn't care because they were so busy screaming, hence "comfortably" numb. He said most of The Wall is about alienation between the audience and band.
Exploring further, Mojo asked Waters about the line, "That'll keep you going through the show," referring to getting medicated before going on-stage. He explained: "That comes from a specific show at the Spectrum in Philadelphia (June 29, 1977). I had stomach cramps so bad that I thought I wasn't able to go on. A doctor backstage gave me a shot of something that I swear to God would have killed a f---ing elephant. I did the whole show hardly able to raise my hand above my knee. He said it was a muscular relaxant. But it rendered me almost insensible. It was so bad that at the end of the show, the audience was baying for more. I couldn't do it. They did the encore about me."
Dave Gilmour wrote the music while he was working on a solo album in 1978. He brought it to The Wall sessions and Waters wrote lyrics for it.
Gilmour believes this song can be divided into two sections: dark and light. The light are the parts that begin "When I was a child...," which Gilmour sings. The dark are the "Hello, is there anybody in there" parts, which are sung by Waters.
Waters and Gilmour had an argument over which version of this to use on the album. They ended up editing two takes together as a compromise. Dave Gilmour said in Guitar World February 1993: "Well, there were two recordings of that, which me and Roger argued about. I'd written it when I was doing my first solo album [David Gilmour, 1978]. We changed the key of the song's opening the E to B, I think. The verse stayed exactly the same. Then we had to add a little bit, because Roger wanted to do the line, 'I have become comfortably numb.' Other than that, it was very, very simple to write. But the arguments on it were about how it should be mixed and which track we should use. We'd done one track with Nick Mason an drums that I thought was too rough and sloppy. We had another go at it and I thought that the second take was better. Roger disagreed. It was more an ego thing than anything else. We really went head to head with each other over such a minor thing. I probably couldn't tell the difference if you put both versions on a record today. But, anyway, it wound up with us taking a fill out of one version and putting it into another version."
This was the last song Waters and Gilmour wrote together. In 1986 Waters left the band and felt there should be no Pink Floyd without him.
When they played this on The Wall tour, a 35-foot wall was erected between the band and the audience as part of the show. As the wall went up, Gilmour was raised above it on a hydraulic lift to perform the guitar solo while Waters was spotlighted in front of the wall below. It was Gilmour's favorite part of the show.
In the movie The Wall, this plays in a scene where the main character, a rock star named "Pink," loses his mind and enters a catatonic state before a show. It was similar to what Syd Barrett, an original member of the band, went through in 1968 when he became mentally ill and was kicked out of the band.
This song is the final step in Pink's (Roger Water's) transformation into the Neo-Nazi, fascist character you see in the movie The Wall. Medics and the band manager come in and give Pink a shot to pull him out of his catatonic stupor, the manager pays protesting Meds some cash to shut up and let him take Pink to the concert in the state he's in (obviously a threat to his health, but the Meds, who probably don't make enough money, accept). In the movie Pink begins to melt on the way there, and underneath he finds that he is the cruel, fascist model of a Nazi party representative by the time he arrives at the concert. Supporting this, afterwards are the songs "The Show Must Go On" (Pink realizing as he gets to the show that there isn't really any turning back, and he's forced to go on-stage), "In the Flesh II" (the redone version of the first song on the album, now with Nazi-Pink singing, threatening random minorities), and "Run Like Hell" (after the crowd, loving nazi-Pink, has been whipped into a frenzy, now hunting minorities in the street, much like late 1930 Germany). While it does seem that this is a song about the "joy of heroin," it has little, if any connection to heroin even if it's condition resembles that of somebody who's totally wasted.
Gilmour's second guitar solo on "Comfortably Numb" regularly appears in Best Guitar Solo of All Time polls. In an August 2006 poll by viewers of TV music channel Planet Rock it was voted the greatest guitar solo of all time.
For the solo, the Pink Floyd guitarist used a heavy pick on his Fender Strat with maple neck through a Big Muff and delay via a Hiwatt amp and a Yamaha RA-200 rotating speaker cabinet.
Gilmour told Guitar World that the solo didn't take long to develop: "I just went out into the studio and banged out 5 or 6 solos. From there I just followed my usual procedure, which is to listen back to each solo and mark out bar lines, saying which bits are good. In other words, I make a chart, putting ticks and crosses on different bars as I count through: two ticks if it's really good, one tick if it's good and cross if it's no go. Then I just follow the chart, whipping one fader up, then another fader, jumping from phrase to phrase and trying to make a really nice solo all the way through. That's the way we did it on 'Comfortably Numb.' It wasn't that difficult. But sometimes you find yourself jumping from one note to another in an impossible way. Then you have to go to another place and find a transition that sounds more natural."
I don't even know the other guy.
Bird.
I was Sixer fan.
Bird is from the Valley 60 mins North of me, Indiana State, loved him, Celtics...hated him.
He was awesome.
Watch and hear the Hall of Famers he demolished tell the tales.
I see you know though.
He's a GOAT.
Like GOAT guitarists, they're GOATS.
THE BEST...subjective to infinity.
I had the privilege to watch Larry Bird videos with a former Sophomore point guard National Champ in 1953.
I can't say, you hv Google.
He was friends with Bird, k ew Tiny....I forgot who he coached against while in the Army...
Was awesome. #25 6' pt G from Tell City Indiana, Burke Scott.
He turned 93 today, I drove 14 hrs through snow and winged today so we celebrated his birthday yesterday watching Karry Birds greatest passes .
He loved it.
"Larry Bird is my friend"
He coached high school Hoosiers for years.
Class Basketball sucks.
It destroyed Hoosier Hysteria!
Indiana was different, "run what you brung" was king, David vs Goliath.
Hoosiers the film Bobby Plum happened.
Southridge 1985(no Seniors) 1986 we went to the Final Four back to back, unfortunately we drew the #11 team in the country, Marion Giants.
86, drewthem again, #1 in Indiana and America.
We held the ball, like 9-14 @ the half, maybe a bit more but they had future Bobby K ight Hoosiers, Lyndon Jones, Jay Edward's.
We ran clock, passed and passed till we got our shot, they didn't fall.
If we'd played straight up they'd hv beat by 60.
Eagle, they're 6' 11" center would rebound and the fast break would end in a dunk with one dribble the whole court but we kept it close utilizing the rules of the day.
A shot click, we'd been slaughtered.
Go Raiders!
The Indianapolis Star Sports guy made a rude comment after being eliminated in 85 "Cinderella is a great story but next year the Raiders will watch from the cheap seats"
Our pep rally next year before the team left for the Final again we had a pep rally at the legendary Huntingburg Memorial Gymnasium built in 1954 holding twice the towns population, the largest high-school Gymnasium at the time holding over 6,300 fans, 7,000+ with risers added there was a massive chair with a sign themat read "THE CHEAP SEAT"
To the Indy Star reporters credit, he sat in it.
Peace
I was in 12th grade when this was released. Roger never explained the details. It is meant to be interpreted by each individual. War, mental disorders, societal evils, drugs, loneliness, overbearing mothers, and their sons, etc.
There is the story of how and why Roger decided to write the album and the story within the album itself. Add in some of the issues that were going on in the UK in the 70s and 80s and it can be pretty confusing.
Now you can actually understand the songs from this album, the visuals are as important as the music and words