It’s like Hawk said “u win some, u lose some” that proves Miguel doesn’t have to win every fight Miguel fans are acting Lilke the writers were making Miguel lose to Anthony and Miguel fans are saying Miguel got nerfed just because he lost to robby
@@Wafflewthyour under the impression that Miguel was way better than Robby, no he wasn’t he was only slightly better, and season 1 Miguel was struggling against an injured Robby so Robby was clearly the better fighter, so he had 2 actual fair wins.
@@Comicedits39Miguel got all his fighting capabilities back in S3 despite being in a wheelchair and won against Robby fair and square in S5. You Miguel fans really can't stand anyone else getting a win 🙄
miguel fan here. Miguel won the first all valley. Hawk won the second. Robby’s whole character is kinda being the “runner up” to miguel, a pretty common trope in shows. Why cant we just let have robby this one win huh?
Tanner said in the interview when he was asked to describe season 6 he said "just getting started" homeboy pretty much spoiled S6 😂 Robby gonna end up winning it for Miyagi-Do
@@efraeimberena2532 I hope so but I feel like they are going to find a way to make Miguel win. Writer gave this to Robby so they can say we didn’t just let Miguel win all the time
exactly, Miguel representing as the captain of Miyagi-Do but started off as Cobra Kai would feel so out of character. do Miguel fans have no sense at all? 😂
@@imtiyazyasir23 when Miguel wins a fight against Robby: “Robby was always better” When Miguel beats Robby: “It didn’t count” I want them both to fight one last time and end this debate entirely
@@agnikaineverdies7646 at least hawk didn't have to fight to dirty to beat him. Miguel had to fight dirty even when Robby had arm injured. 😂😂 Hawk is way better than Miguel
@@gamersstation519hawk also fought dirty in s1 he is the main reason robby was even injured in the final fight against miguel, so you can’t put everything on miguel
@@agnikaineverdies7646it’s not an excuse when the show goes out of its way to show Robby getting distracted. There’s a reason they put that there. Hawk has always been a tier below Miguel and Robbie
Robby deserved it and it made sense that he won he was relevant to Miguel's Level every season and he's been doing Miyagi Do for 3 more seasons than Miguel
@@ZenoEditsZ I think their gonna make Miguel crawl back into irrelevancy and then he’s going to just be forgotten, he’s been a side character for the past 3 seasons.
miguel isnt even the one who brought Daniel back but Robby, Daniel was on the verge of giving up the fight against Silver. Robby is destined to defang the Cobras. F*ck Moguel he aint do shit all this time. it's Robby's turn 😈
@HandsomeZachM24 I agree but the fans of miguel still hate him because the people still doesn't forgot what he did a miguel when he and miguel are step brothers and friends but clear the fans always stay in the past when robby redeemend himself in the last season 4
@@blackops2kills60at this point, people who are Robby and Miguel glazers are either man-children or teenagers stuck in the past. I do love Robby, of course, but I try to stay the hell away from the glazers like…REALLY REALLY far away. In fact, the glazers of Miguel, Robby, and Hawk are the reason why I stopped being a Cobra Kai fan for over a year. They just make watching the series and the franchise unenjoyable.
Before Miguel fans say he was unbalanced Hayden Schlossberg stated both Robby and Miguel were slightly on edge going into the fight but Miguel had Sam so thats why he was winning but when Tory showed up Robby got his motivation and makes come back. Only then Miguel became more off balance and loses. This shows that when the circumstances were the same Robby proved to be better.
Robby was always shown having more potential than Miguel. He has the best defense out of the crew and his offense is unpredictable. The perfect Miyagi Do student.
@@ManjulaHerath-i9q It’s plot armor. If he still one of the top fighters despite falling into th coma and breaking is back, then he the character with the most plot armor
@@Goatleonaldo bro ROBBY WAS LITERALLY LOSING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN TORY WALKS IN that’s literally plot armor look I’m okay with Miguel losing I don’t glaze him but I agree it’s plot armor Miguel was always better they started with him it makes no sense for them to nerf him ESPECIALLY AT THE LAST SEASON TOO.😊
I’ve been waiting for Robby to win since season 1. He has been 2nd place since the beginning & he REALLY needed a win. Miguel just competing in the tournament will probably get him into Stanford but Robby being captain has given him self confidence he hasn’t had. I’m so proud of him
@@Python-xs2ivno he shouldn’t I don’t get why everyone thinks that just because he trains in cobrai Kai yes I know the traditional cobrai Kai 😒 miyagi do is proven to be better many times
@@JaVontoThurl It's been made very obvious that Cobra Kai in South Korea is very different from the Cobra Kai in America. Those students fight live and breathe Karate.
while they have each trained in each styles... miguel's core instincts are rooted in cobra kai... robby's are in miyagi-do. a theme ever since the first movie is that miyagi-do will always come out on top over cobra kai (when the miyagi-do student is in their most balanced and focused state)
I think people tend to forget that Miguel was raised in a single parent household as well. The only advantage Miguel really got was that his mom wasnt an addict
Spitting facts right there 🔥 ngl though once my boi started using ultra instinct against Miguel to score the first two points I knew it was over for him great fight though
@shadowv6859 he ain't losing he is still winning. In The Leak, he could be injured or got scar from the fight . And the miguel leak is confusing if he is taking robby Place. Why is he wearing a cobra kai gi ?
@@Vamp1r3squideditz who cares about the all valley? The title of the worlds Best fighter is on the line, No one is gonna remember some little local tournament
@@ZenoEditsZ yeah cause he was the underdog, and also he grew up there, and he won multiple, Miguel has only won once and it wasn’t even a fair fight, he needs a clear fair win in order to complete his arc
@Comicedits39 Nope he was the kid who knew karate for 6 weeks while Johmmy was a two time all valley champ who would they be rooting for? Johnny of course Robby deserves it more than Miguel he's hated a lot and the fight wasn't unfair
Miguel is a great character and fighter. He’s very mature and is willing to admit his flaws sometimes and accept defeat if he loses fair and square which is what makes him respectable. Unlike his fans who always have silly excuses for his flaws and act like he can never lose.
Fr the miguel fanboys are making Miguel look bad. I really loved Miguel before. He was my favorite character with Robby. But when I saw how the miguel fanboys were like, that’s when I started disrespecting Miguel
I don’t get why it’s also being clarified it’s 3-1 to Miguel, in reality Robby leads 3-2. If we go by the last man standing: Miguel wins the S1,5 fights and Robby the S2,4,6p1 fights. However, both Robby and Miguel showed mercy in the S1 and S2 fights respectively, ultimately being the better fighter at the time.
Robby (needs the win, to have literally any chance of a future, stand on the top with Tory & to finally come in first not second. Miguel (I need this win. It help me get in skool) As much as I love Miguel and he will always be my favorite character, he just didn’t want it enough. Sam has the same issue, she wants the win for (closure) like bruh… Robby and Tory both have way more of a reason to win the Sakai taikai.
So we gonna ignore Miguel also wanting to win to help his family financially including Robby , why do you think that scene of him hearing Johnny and Carmen talk about their bills mean ? Why y’all acting like Miguel wants to win for himself only if anything that’s Robby’s goal 😂 " It will be good me and you on that podium " those were literally Robby’s words to Tory
One thing I don't rlly understand is why Miguel fans bring up he was unbalanced. Like Miguel literally fights better when drawing on emotions, we saw that in season 5, during the apartment fight.
As an unhealthily obsessive miguel fanboy, I think its fine that Robby got the w cuz Every character has had a moment where they come out on top, and robby has always been some sort of reinforcement, and since the sekai taikai is the last tournament in the series, it gives robby an opportunity to just beat the hell outta kwon, and since robby and miguel r both the main characters, I wanna believe theres some crazy duo action at the end of the season.
Well to me why Robby really won. He realized he needed to be patient while miguel was doing a bunch of flashy moves. Robby only did the moves that mattered.
Honestly this vid made me feel better about Miguel losing but the captain thing is stupid as hell because what if Miguel outperforms Robby in the sekai taikai? It just takes away so much tension imo that Robby gets to fight in the finals when it’s possible their dojo may advance as far because of Miguel or hawk
not gonna happen, Robby always performs well in tournaments, that's why he's a runner up. you'd know that if you've been paying attention. Also, Miguel representing Miyagi Do as Captain would feel so out of character knowing the fact that he started off as a Cobra Kai. on the other hand Robby was Daniel's first mentee in a while after Samantha. so it makes sense why Sam and Robby came to be as the Team Captains. you could see that from a mile away. but I don't blame you, your vision turns out to be very narrow as a result you fail to see the bigger picture.
@@efraeimberena2532And Miguel doesn’t? He’s never even technically lost a match in a tournament either and he’s actually won one. It makes sense at the end because although he didn’t start out as miyagi do, he found a mentor in Johnny that helped him find balance and peace in his life. So this would perfectly represent that Johnny is way more like miyagi then he thinks and eventually giving Miguel the same advice that miyagi did that helped him win the all valley. This also helps Daniel learn Johnny is just like miyagi, and not everyone starts off with perfect beginnings, but it’s how you finish is all that matters. And I see the show ending with Daniel telling his version of cobra Kai isn’t bad at all since his students fight with honor and respect for their students, and Johnny and Mike Barnes take over cobra Kai and mentoring many other students as Daniel funds it.
A common saying i see, mostly on TikTok, is "The Show started with Miguel, it should end with him". And i while i agree, they mostly mean that Miguel should win the Sekai Tekai, which i disagree from. Im glad robby has a chance to be world champ after having such a sucky life. And the show can still END on Miguel. The shows name IS Cobra Kai, so i can see Johnny retaking the dojo, and more importantly Miguel going to college in the Valley while also being a Sensei at the new Cobra Kai. It would be a much fitting end, since Miguel didnt join to be a champion and for the glory, just to be badass.
Robby is my Top #1, he had the most potential. Miguel just learned karate before robby. And Miguel had a badass sensei. Not saying Larusso isnt badass.
Saying Robby didn't deserve to win this fight is like saying Eli didn't deserve to win the all valley. Both victories are critical to their arcs. Meanwhile Miguels never really been the underdog since like early season 1 and I guess also season 3
Your dreams are cut short because Miguel will win anyway. There is a leak image of Miguel wearing the captain headband and one with Robby having an injury on his face.
I'm a Miguel Fanboy, but I was hoping for Robby to win this one. It shows how equal they are in combat. If we just keep seeing Miguel win against Robby in every fight, it becomes too predictable. The writers clearly wanted to show that their skills rival each other.
@@brunosanz7477 fym proofs are you blind? listen to his interaction with sam he was desperate and did not listen to her he basically ignored her and fought recklessly and let college get to his head he wasn’t thinking straight or thinking about the way he fought against robby which lead to his defeat and being unbalanced
@@MoSalah17-18 winning all the time doesn’t make you Mary sue, there are plenty of overpowered characters that are perfectly written, a Mary sue is a character with no flaws and never makes mistakes, Miguel is a flawed character, he’s always doubting himself, He always fights for someone, he never fights for himself, He’s also very misunderstanding, he’s very aggressive which is the reason he lost, he wasn’t Balanced and Focused, Robby was poised, he doesn’t have any second thoughts or thinking about what’s at stake, he’s just purely trying to win because of his promise to Tory, Miguel needed this win, Robby WANTED this win, and that’s the difference
@@Comicedits39 not really true, he's had spotlight in every season, the least in maybe Season 4 but it depends what you consider spotlight, he's had major roles and his own Arc in each season, just the least in Season 4 of them all and well if you wanna count Season 6 Part 1 even though the rest isn't out yet then yeah other than episode 2 and 5 he didn't have much to himself
As much as i know Robby needed this way more than this story, I still wanted Miguel to win off of personal bias. BUT I know Robby was the best choice for the story. Still crazy they stopped Tory. I wanted her to win so bad, but I understand where they're going with it. She's slipping mentally. FANTASTIC episode
You win some. You lose some. Robby won fair and square. It was obvious he wasn't focused until Tory showed up. This fight reminded me of season 1 Robby when even though he was injured, he was still doing his thing. I don't understand why Miguel fans are crying up a storm over this. He lost to another fighter who's always been considered his equal. Nothing embarrassing about that. At least Hawk fans had a legitimate reason to be mad when he lost to Kenny. Just because Miguel lost a fight doesn’t mean he's not an excellent fighter.
Miguel was stated to be unbalanced as a reason to him losing by the creators. Sure robby won and I have no problem accepting that. What I do have a problem is some of yall think that changes anything or that robby is now the better fighter
@aadilelamkulath7594 So your problem is really who's the better fighter. At least you're honest about it. I, myself, see them as equals. The outcome of their clashes has always been about either who wants it more or who's injured or who's better prepared. In reality, it's whoever the writers want to win at the time. One final thought. Some of you fans keep stating that Miguel lost because he was "unbalanced" and wanted to win so badly. However, I highly doubt this would be the case if he won. Miguel's drive to win was no different than when he faced Robby in season 1. By the way, in the past, I recall the same creators have made comments about Robby losing his balance since season one. In my opinion, their season 6 clash solidifies them as equals. It can go either way when it comes to those two. Again, you win some, you lose some.
@@vovog371yeah, it’s not accurate to judge who’s the better fighter just with one fight, like some people say Kenny is better than Eli because of that one fight or Devon is better than Eli because she temporarily gained the upper hand
I like Miguel more than I do Robby (Robby is still peak) but Miguel has infinitely more opportunities than he does. I think it was dumb for the tournament to have just one winner, but this way Robby can actually have a future. I see Miguel having a future similar to Daniel’s.
Yes for real!!! Like i like Miguel more than Robby but he deserved to win the s6 fight because he remembered his miyagi do training. Which if his arm wasn't injured in s1 tournament i believe he would've beaten Miguel. He loses to miguel continuously after that because he is fighting based off rage and Cobra Kai training, which isn't his true self.
Miguel fanboys made me become a Robby fan 💀 the fact they starting crying because robby got ONE FAIR win lmfao. I hope Robby wins the entire tournament.
I believe Robby deserves the win. In the end they’re both fighting together in the Sekei takai. And if they win and get the money, Miguel can get to Stanford and Robby can do his own thing.
He's still the better fighter. One loss out of four total fights doesn't really change much. Especially when he was stated by the creator to be unbalanced
Robby is worthy of winning the 1st place. But unfortunately the leaks don't say the same. Lets hope the writers won't leave their idiocy get berseked as they did with Hawk.
I’ve always said this: the show robbed Robby in both tournaments, and honestly he’s a better fighter than Miguel. Both tournament loses he would’ve one if hadn’t got hurt/ distracted by Kenny
I have only one issue with this fight: Robby only improved when Tory was there. He was giving his all beforehand but as soon as she popped up, that's when it changed and he won the fight
And Robby and Miguel didn't settle their beef. They are still enemies, but because Johnny is a pathetic fool who forces Robby into this situation they are pretending. Miguel has all the power in this family dynamic, so narcissist that he is, he's not gonna give up the power.
Robbie was fighting for more than himself and not selfish reasons. He was fighting for Tori to be there by her, side by side together. Like they said they wanted to be. Thats why when she showed up he won 3 rounds in a row.
Delusional fanboy, it doesn't matter because Miguel will win anyway. There is a leak image of Miguel wearing the captain headband and one with Robby having an injury on his face.
Miguel was focused in the fight. He was fully focused on winning and nothing else. So this was peak Miguel. Anything less than that, and Miguel or Daniel would have spoken up about it. Robby> Miguel Daniel could tell in S1 when Robby was and wasn’t focused, so he would be able to tell if Miguel was also.
Before when I first saw Season 6 I thought the writers were making them beef for no reason and I thought it was kinda dumb but now that you explain it like that this shit is tight Still hate the fact that Tory turned on them cause her mom died
I have a feeling Robby is going to get jumped by a group of Cobras and get seriously injured (like Miguel was after the school fight). It wouldn't be as severe but it would be enough to temporarily remove him from the competition. That will lead to Tory turning away from Kreese. Miguel will then help Robby with the emotional distress due to such a traumatic injury, since Miguel has already gone through that sort of situation. Miguel will take the captain spot while Robby recovers, but I could totally see Robby coming back to compete in the final. Miguel would probably get off the waitlist before the final, so he'd willingly step aside without regret to let Robby have his moment.
I was rooting for miggy in this fight but that’s just because Miguel is my favorite character. Robbie’s character definitely needed this more than Miguel.
tbh my only issue is miguel hasn't really gotten a clean win against robby even in s5 where even tho he clearly wins people write it off as a stalemate id like to see miguel get a clean win on robby even if its like another all valley or smth
@@cinnamon_toast_crush what do you want Miguel to do then, put Robby in a coma and then say it's a clean win. Miguel got enough clean wins under his belt
nah the school fight and apartment fight are each enough to show Miguel is the better fighter. At least in Street fights because in tournaments you earn points by landing a hit which is something you can do even without being the better fighter
Difference was robby was able to fight with a clear head which gave hime the deserved win while miguel was probably distracted about the future which cost him the match. Robby deserves it because if Miguel was able to clear his head and focus on the match then the outcome would be different, Robby's win is proof he deserves it.
@@arafhamid1785he did beat him fair and square but you could tell Miguel was unwell in this fight the way he was saying stuff like (I need this for college) which he shouldn’t be focusing on that he should be focusing on the fight
Can’t we all agree Miguel is better in a street fight and will probably win the sekai takai, and Robby’s better in tournaments and will probably have a happy ending.
Robby could’ve beaten hawk in the all valley but watched Kenny and lost focus. He also would’ve beat Miguel in their fight in season 5 if it was to three points. Miguel took over on the balcony cause he wasn’t losing up top again
there's no shame in losing to keene; they both did very well
It’s like Hawk said “u win some, u lose some” that proves Miguel doesn’t have to win every fight
Miguel fans are acting Lilke the writers were making Miguel lose to Anthony and Miguel fans are saying Miguel got nerfed just because he lost to robby
Miguel has been getting hoed since season 3 fr
Fr bro
He did get nerfed not even crying im happy robby won but how do you lose 3 rounds in a row to someone you beat 3 times in a fight
@@Wafflewthyour under the impression that Miguel was way better than Robby, no he wasn’t he was only slightly better, and season 1 Miguel was struggling against an injured Robby so Robby was clearly the better fighter, so he had 2 actual fair wins.
@@Comicedits39Miguel got all his fighting capabilities back in S3 despite being in a wheelchair and won against Robby fair and square in S5.
You Miguel fans really can't stand anyone else getting a win 🙄
Took the creators long enough to give Robby a win
I think that was the win the writers were talking about
creators tend to do that when actors are great at what they do.
Technically if you count Robby absolutely putting Miguel in a coma he won twice
@@Viral-Hit-v5q Miguel showed mercy to Robby
Screw Robby 😂
miguel fan here. Miguel won the first all valley. Hawk won the second. Robby’s whole character is kinda being the “runner up” to miguel, a pretty common trope in shows. Why cant we just let have robby this one win huh?
Thank you bring mature. Most Miguel fans just want him to win because he was the first underdog and they want him to win all the time like Daniel did.
yea let’s all let robby have this win because he got lucky beating miguel 👏
Tanner said in the interview when he was asked to describe season 6 he said "just getting started" homeboy pretty much spoiled S6 😂 Robby gonna end up winning it for Miyagi-Do
@@efraeimberena2532 I hope so but I feel like they are going to find a way to make Miguel win. Writer gave this to Robby so they can say we didn’t just let Miguel win all the time
He even lost unfairly in s1 and the fight on s4 is debatable
It also makes sense that he became Captain given that he's had experience training students and has more experience in Miyagi Do than Miguel.
exactly, Miguel representing as the captain of Miyagi-Do but started off as Cobra Kai would feel so out of character. do Miguel fans have no sense at all? 😂
When Miguel beats Robby : "Miguel is better"
When Robby beats Miguel : "It means nothing"
BRUH, get over it and show love to both characters
@@imtiyazyasir23 when Miguel wins a fight against Robby:
“Robby was always better”
When Miguel beats Robby:
“It didn’t count”
I want them both to fight one last time and end this debate entirely
Watch season 5 episode 5 and you won't be disappointed. @@Comicedits39
@@Comicedits39Are you another dumb crybaby it’s literally never like that…
@Comicedits39
Robby is better in tournaments because Miyagi Do is suited for it. Miguel is better in the streets. Near equal
@@Comicedits39I think the season 5 fight should've been the last one with them*, it was good like that
The first students of Miyagi-Do representing them just makes more sense
robby wins ONE time and everyones crying about it lmaoo
Ikr what babies
Fr fr
Which is why I hope he win the tekai to see them cry more
cuz it's plot. miguel beat robby three times. robby had no right beating miguel except for plot.
@@7aemrlooks like we got a crybaby
As a hawk fan , seeing Miguel fans cry and make excuses, makes me feel better about hawk being nerfed
Robby fans were filled with all sorts of excuses when Hawk beat him
@@agnikaineverdies7646 at least hawk didn't have to fight to dirty to beat him.
Miguel had to fight dirty even when Robby had arm injured.
😂😂
Hawk is way better than Miguel
@@gamersstation519hawk also fought dirty in s1 he is the main reason robby was even injured in the final fight against miguel, so you can’t put everything on miguel
Robby is stronger than both of them without plot armor. As a fighter myself, it’s obvious that he is stronger than
@@agnikaineverdies7646it’s not an excuse when the show goes out of its way to show Robby getting distracted. There’s a reason they put that there. Hawk has always been a tier below Miguel and Robbie
Robby deserved it and it made sense that he won he was relevant to Miguel's Level every season and he's been doing Miyagi Do for 3 more seasons than Miguel
@@ZenoEditsZ I think their gonna make Miguel crawl back into irrelevancy and then he’s going to just be forgotten, he’s been a side character for the past 3 seasons.
@Comicedits39 no he hasn't he got more focus in season 5 and 6
@@ZenoEditsZyes he has, Robby, hawk, Sam, And Demetri got more screen time then Miguel did in both seasons
@@Comicedits39
Season 5 he was Goated tho
@Comicedits39 Hell no Demetri had no screen time in Season 5 and so did Hawk Miguel got way more screen time
Just because Miguel is the main student doesn’t mean he has to win everything
I know right
Miguel is NOT the main student. He is a decoy. Robby is and always has been the main.
miguel isnt even the one who brought Daniel back but Robby, Daniel was on the verge of giving up the fight against Silver. Robby is destined to defang the Cobras. F*ck Moguel he aint do shit all this time. it's Robby's turn 😈
Yup the main student who wasnt even in the first episode 💀💀. Show started with johnny and miguel stop talking out of your ass@@AndrewFrancisIlyrian
THANK YOU
Cannot wait to check this out 🎉
A Balanced and Focused Robby is a Dangerous Robby
Let the boy have his flowers 💐
Let him have some shine
I didn't know you watched Tylearn 😂
Wassup Goat
Balanced miguel slams balanced robby
@@erenchillingit can go either way
@@arafhamid1785 nah not even close
Robby deserves more respect and attention bro
And he will get it as Miyagi Do's top male fighter.
@@c.p.scorner4251 ye
@HandsomeZachM24 I agree but the fans of miguel still hate him because the people still doesn't forgot what he did a miguel when he and miguel are step brothers and friends but clear the fans always stay in the past when robby redeemend himself in the last season 4
@HandsomeZachM24 yeah fr
@@blackops2kills60at this point, people who are Robby and Miguel glazers are either man-children or teenagers stuck in the past. I do love Robby, of course, but I try to stay the hell away from the glazers like…REALLY REALLY far away. In fact, the glazers of Miguel, Robby, and Hawk are the reason why I stopped being a Cobra Kai fan for over a year. They just make watching the series and the franchise unenjoyable.
Robby was called a runner up last season so its time to have someone else win a tournament.
I’m glad Miguel lost because he’s never fairly lost, now it’s time for Sam to lose so everyone has lost a fight legitimately
Hawk ain't lose legitimately. He lost cuz of plot for miggy and Robby to shine
Kenny even with silver bullet shoulda still lost because hawks should be the most reactive fastest most explosive fighter but clearly not anymore
@@jennifernewman5929 i had a stroke reading this😂
@@jennifernewman5929, even if you discount the Kenny and Demetri fights, hawk has been beaten before by Miguel and Robby
exactly
Before Miguel fans say he was unbalanced Hayden Schlossberg stated both Robby and Miguel were slightly on edge going into the fight but Miguel had Sam so thats why he was winning but when Tory showed up Robby got his motivation and makes come back. Only then Miguel became more off balance and loses. This shows that when the circumstances were the same Robby proved to be better.
@@samueli7759 That is NOT what he said but sure lil bro😭🙏🏾
Glazing
Did you watch the interview😭
that aint what he said lmao
i don’t think so as miguel was still hung up on the college thing
idk why its so hard for these idiots to believe that robby just simply trained harder 💀
yeah
Shut up clown Miguel is the main character and he going to win it all
@@Mephiles-beyondeh
Yeah he had no training partner so he had to so you right
Miguel trained smarter and harder. You need to do both😂
Robby was always shown having more potential than Miguel. He has the best defense out of the crew and his offense is unpredictable. The perfect Miyagi Do student.
Fr he’s the most talented
Yeah lets ignore that Miguel injured his back,lost his ability to do karate but still one of the top fighters in the show.
@@ManjulaHerath-i9q It’s plot armor. If he still one of the top fighters despite falling into th coma and breaking is back, then he the character with the most plot armor
@@Goatleonaldo this is a show dude
This plot armour isnt an excuse because everyone has it including your precious Robby.
Robby wins one time and the Miguel glazers start seething like crazy 😭
@@ChampionProductionsYT Because no one wants to lose to a runner up.
@@coltongold Keep coping
@@coltongold list of better fighters
Hawk
Robby
Demetri
Hawk is the best and Miguel is a cry baby who gets destroyed without plot armour
@@gamersstation519 Miguel is a top 3 teenage fighter. Miguel is better than Demetri. And Robby is the cry baby who takes everything personally.
@@gamersstation519 And by the name of your profile. You don’t touch grass
The show is called cobra kai, not Miguel kai.
It's not even cobra kai anymore it's miyagi do now💀
amen
LMAOOO
@@jujuthethird4602 Miyagi-Do is just a different version of Cobra Kai
@@efraeimberena2532 the worst version yeah
As a Miguel fan I can honestly say Robbie won that fair and square. And I’m okay with it tbh.
Congratulations, you became the first Miguel fanboy that I saw to ever accept that Robby is better than miguel
@@Goatleonaldo bro ROBBY WAS LITERALLY LOSING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN TORY WALKS IN that’s literally plot armor look I’m okay with Miguel losing I don’t glaze him but I agree it’s plot armor Miguel was always better they started with him it makes no sense for them to nerf him ESPECIALLY AT THE LAST SEASON TOO.😊
As both a Miguel and Robby fan, I try to stay away from Miguel and Robby glazers, like……REALLY far away.
I’ve been waiting for Robby to win since season 1. He has been 2nd place since the beginning & he REALLY needed a win. Miguel just competing in the tournament will probably get him into Stanford but Robby being captain has given him self confidence he hasn’t had. I’m so proud of him
He will win the sekai taikai
@@tinamathew8097I feel like they gave him the win here so that Miguel can take the Sakai taikai
@@tinamathew8097Which is bs since Kwon should be able to annihilate both of them
@@Python-xs2ivno he shouldn’t I don’t get why everyone thinks that just because he trains in cobrai Kai yes I know the traditional cobrai Kai 😒 miyagi do is proven to be better many times
@@JaVontoThurl It's been made very obvious that Cobra Kai in South Korea is very different from the Cobra Kai in America. Those students fight live and breathe Karate.
while they have each trained in each styles... miguel's core instincts are rooted in cobra kai... robby's are in miyagi-do. a theme ever since the first movie is that miyagi-do will always come out on top over cobra kai (when the miyagi-do student is in their most balanced and focused state)
I think people tend to forget that Miguel was raised in a single parent household as well. The only advantage Miguel really got was that his mom wasnt an addict
Spitting facts right there 🔥 ngl though once my boi started using ultra instinct against Miguel to score the first two points I knew it was over for him great fight though
Miguel has never fought against Robby a balanced Robby until now
Robby deserves to win 🏆
@Mickey-mx4oq Yes, he does. If Cobra kai wins, how can they end show then ? It's the final season.
@Mickey-mx4oq they have to win to beat Cobra kai, plus miyagi do needs a win since losing both tournaments against cobra kai.
@@blessmayakamene3947because Cobra Kai never dies but it sure loses alot. 😂
He will lose Robby fanboy. Theres a leak where he gets injured in the championship and Miguel will take his place.
@shadowv6859 he ain't losing he is still winning. In The Leak, he could be injured or got scar from the fight . And the miguel leak is confusing if he is taking robby Place. Why is he wearing a cobra kai gi ?
Agreed man sick and tired of people saying Miguel needs to win
He does need to win
@Mickey-mx4oq no they've already won the last two all valley's if they win the Sekai Taikai they go global that makes no sense for the plot
@Mickey-mx4oq that's the stupidest argument ever just because the show is called Cobra Kai that doesn't matter it's the final season
@Mickey-mx4oq
No they not. Miyagi Do lost every tournament. Makes no sense for them to lose 3 in a row
@Mickey-mx4oq dosen't matter Miyagi-Do is winning
He does deserve to win bro was a runner up in the all valley twice so getting the dub in the Sekai Taikai will really make up for it 😊
@@Vamp1r3squideditz who cares about the all valley? The title of the worlds Best fighter is on the line, No one is gonna remember some little local tournament
He's not winning the sekai. This is the most important tournament. You think they about to screw the golden boy miguel over ? Naw
@Comicedits39 everyone cares They cared about Daniel being the underdog in the tournament twice
@@ZenoEditsZ yeah cause he was the underdog, and also he grew up there, and he won multiple, Miguel has only won once and it wasn’t even a fair fight, he needs a clear fair win in order to complete his arc
@Comicedits39 Nope he was the kid who knew karate for 6 weeks while Johmmy was a two time all valley champ who would they be rooting for? Johnny of course Robby deserves it more than Miguel he's hated a lot and the fight wasn't unfair
Miguel loses one fight in 6 seasons and everyone thinks he was nerfed
Miguel is a great character and fighter. He’s very mature and is willing to admit his flaws sometimes and accept defeat if he loses fair and square which is what makes him respectable. Unlike his fans who always have silly excuses for his flaws and act like he can never lose.
Fr the miguel fanboys are making Miguel look bad. I really loved Miguel before. He was my favorite character with Robby. But when I saw how the miguel fanboys were like, that’s when I started disrespecting Miguel
@@Goatleonaldoif you feel the need to disrespect a character bc of his fans u just sad 😂😂😂
I don’t get why it’s also being clarified it’s 3-1 to Miguel, in reality Robby leads 3-2. If we go by the last man standing: Miguel wins the S1,5 fights and Robby the S2,4,6p1 fights. However, both Robby and Miguel showed mercy in the S1 and S2 fights respectively, ultimately being the better fighter at the time.
Robby (needs the win, to have literally any chance of a future, stand on the top with Tory & to finally come in first not second.
Miguel (I need this win. It help me get in skool)
As much as I love Miguel and he will always be my favorite character, he just didn’t want it enough. Sam has the same issue, she wants the win for (closure) like bruh…
Robby and Tory both have way more of a reason to win the Sakai taikai.
So we gonna ignore Miguel also wanting to win to help his family financially including Robby , why do you think that scene of him hearing Johnny and Carmen talk about their bills mean ? Why y’all acting like Miguel wants to win for himself only if anything that’s Robby’s goal 😂 " It will be good me and you on that podium " those were literally Robby’s words to Tory
i wasn’t mad that miguel lost i knew robby would win as he deserves it as he got second place twice in the All valley
One thing I don't rlly understand is why Miguel fans bring up he was unbalanced. Like Miguel literally fights better when drawing on emotions, we saw that in season 5, during the apartment fight.
As an unhealthily obsessive miguel fanboy, I think its fine that Robby got the w cuz Every character has had a moment where they come out on top, and robby has always been some sort of reinforcement, and since the sekai taikai is the last tournament in the series, it gives robby an opportunity to just beat the hell outta kwon, and since robby and miguel r both the main characters, I wanna believe theres some crazy duo action at the end of the season.
4:37 ROBBY : MF the BIG 3, ITS JUST BIG ME !
Well to me why Robby really won. He realized he needed to be patient while miguel was doing a bunch of flashy moves. Robby only did the moves that mattered.
Honestly this vid made me feel better about Miguel losing but the captain thing is stupid as hell because what if Miguel outperforms Robby in the sekai taikai? It just takes away so much tension imo that Robby gets to fight in the finals when it’s possible their dojo may advance as far because of Miguel or hawk
not gonna happen, Robby always performs well in tournaments, that's why he's a runner up. you'd know that if you've been paying attention.
Also, Miguel representing Miyagi Do as Captain would feel so out of character knowing the fact that he started off as a Cobra Kai. on the other hand Robby was Daniel's first mentee in a while after Samantha. so it makes sense why Sam and Robby came to be as the Team Captains. you could see that from a mile away. but I don't blame you, your vision turns out to be very narrow as a result you fail to see the bigger picture.
@@efraeimberena2532And Miguel doesn’t? He’s never even technically lost a match in a tournament either and he’s actually won one. It makes sense at the end because although he didn’t start out as miyagi do, he found a mentor in Johnny that helped him find balance and peace in his life. So this would perfectly represent that Johnny is way more like miyagi then he thinks and eventually giving Miguel the same advice that miyagi did that helped him win the all valley. This also helps Daniel learn Johnny is just like miyagi, and not everyone starts off with perfect beginnings, but it’s how you finish is all that matters. And I see the show ending with Daniel telling his version of cobra Kai isn’t bad at all since his students fight with honor and respect for their students, and Johnny and Mike Barnes take over cobra Kai and mentoring many other students as Daniel funds it.
Miguel fans when they realize Miguel is also human and loses sometimes: 😤
Fr
fr dude people think that miguel is jesus christ himself
Not everyone is unstoppable Hawk said you win some you lose some that's life
Ikr 😂
@@ZenoEditsZ Hawk is better than both
A common saying i see, mostly on TikTok, is "The Show started with Miguel, it should end with him". And i while i agree, they mostly mean that Miguel should win the Sekai Tekai, which i disagree from. Im glad robby has a chance to be world champ after having such a sucky life.
And the show can still END on Miguel. The shows name IS Cobra Kai, so i can see Johnny retaking the dojo, and more importantly Miguel going to college in the Valley while also being a Sensei at the new Cobra Kai. It would be a much fitting end, since Miguel didnt join to be a champion and for the glory, just to be badass.
Robby is my Top #1, he had the most potential. Miguel just learned karate before robby. And Miguel had a badass sensei. Not saying Larusso isnt badass.
He even defended against miguel with one hand in the first tournament
Robby ❤❤❤
I feel like the people crying about Miguel losing are school kids. Just being a fan of the character and not caring about other protagonists.
or individuals who never grew up
@@efraeimberena2532 definitely feels like it
The day is saved
Because the goat is here
Saying Robby didn't deserve to win this fight is like saying Eli didn't deserve to win the all valley. Both victories are critical to their arcs. Meanwhile Miguels never really been the underdog since like early season 1 and I guess also season 3
Your dreams are cut short because Miguel will win anyway. There is a leak image of Miguel wearing the captain headband and one with Robby having an injury on his face.
took them long enough to finally give robby a w..
robby negs miguel this season and its literally factual for him to finally get a win
he dosent neg he extreme diffs him in this part
Neg diff? Dude straight up lost to Miguel twice in 1v1 non tournament rules street fights.
@@Sprigger2exactly
I loved how Robby won this match. He earned it
I'm a Miguel Fanboy, but I was hoping for Robby to win this one. It shows how equal they are in combat. If we just keep seeing Miguel win against Robby in every fight, it becomes too predictable. The writers clearly wanted to show that their skills rival each other.
when he saw tory walking to the ring it gave him motivation
Robby have to win 😭😭😭
Miguel fans saying Miguel was unbalanced: 🤡
Daniel and Miguel himself confirming he was actually focused and lost fairly: 🗿
Hawk is better than both, but I have a hard time arguing with Miguel fanboys more than Robby fanboys.
Miguel fanboys are keyboard warriors 😂
@@gamersstation519 Hawk has lost to the both of them and is blatantly worse than all of them in S6 lol
he wasn’t focused he was desperate there’s a difference 🤡
@@erenchilling Proofs??
There is nothing in the show showing he was desperate. He lost fair square, you like it or not
@@brunosanz7477 fym proofs are you blind? listen to his interaction with sam he was desperate and did not listen to her he basically ignored her and fought recklessly and let college get to his head he wasn’t thinking straight or thinking about the way he fought against robby which lead to his defeat and being unbalanced
Robby had his heart in this fight more, that's the difference.
Ive always seen these two as equal so i always seen their fights being able to go either way
I dont get why people just wants Miguel to win all the time, because if that happens he will turn into a mary sue character
@@MoSalah17-18 winning all the time doesn’t make you Mary sue, there are plenty of overpowered characters that are perfectly written, a Mary sue is a character with no flaws and never makes mistakes, Miguel is a flawed character, he’s always doubting himself, He always fights for someone, he never fights for himself, He’s also very misunderstanding, he’s very aggressive which is the reason he lost, he wasn’t Balanced and Focused, Robby was poised, he doesn’t have any second thoughts or thinking about what’s at stake, he’s just purely trying to win because of his promise to Tory, Miguel needed this win, Robby WANTED this win, and that’s the difference
Ikr, give some other teenager the spotlight besides Miguel
@@imtiyazyasir23 Miguel never had the spotlight besides season 1 and a little of season 2 and a portion of season 3
@@Comicedits39 not really true, he's had spotlight in every season, the least in maybe Season 4 but it depends what you consider spotlight, he's had major roles and his own Arc in each season, just the least in Season 4 of them all and well if you wanna count Season 6 Part 1 even though the rest isn't out yet then yeah other than episode 2 and 5 he didn't have much to himself
@@nightmareorigins7210 I couldn’t disagree more, sure he’s had moments but he was never The Focus compared to Robby or Sam
As much as i know Robby needed this way more than this story, I still wanted Miguel to win off of personal bias. BUT I know Robby was the best choice for the story.
Still crazy they stopped Tory. I wanted her to win so bad, but I understand where they're going with it. She's slipping mentally.
FANTASTIC episode
I think Tory vs Sam is a bigger rivalry than Miguel vs Robby
Watching Miguel’s victory gets kinda boring
You win some. You lose some. Robby won fair and square. It was obvious he wasn't focused until Tory showed up. This fight reminded me of season 1 Robby when even though he was injured, he was still doing his thing. I don't understand why Miguel fans are crying up a storm over this. He lost to another fighter who's always been considered his equal. Nothing embarrassing about that. At least Hawk fans had a legitimate reason to be mad when he lost to Kenny. Just because Miguel lost a fight doesn’t mean he's not an excellent fighter.
Miguel was stated to be unbalanced as a reason to him losing by the creators. Sure robby won and I have no problem accepting that. What I do have a problem is some of yall think that changes anything or that robby is now the better fighter
@aadilelamkulath7594 So your problem is really who's the better fighter. At least you're honest about it. I, myself, see them as equals. The outcome of their clashes has always been about either who wants it more or who's injured or who's better prepared. In reality, it's whoever the writers want to win at the time.
One final thought. Some of you fans keep stating that Miguel lost because he was "unbalanced" and wanted to win so badly. However, I highly doubt this would be the case if he won. Miguel's drive to win was no different than when he faced Robby in season 1. By the way, in the past, I recall the same creators have made comments about Robby losing his balance since season one.
In my opinion, their season 6 clash solidifies them as equals. It can go either way when it comes to those two. Again, you win some, you lose some.
@@vovog371yeah, it’s not accurate to judge who’s the better fighter just with one fight, like some people say Kenny is better than Eli because of that one fight or Devon is better than Eli because she temporarily gained the upper hand
They both deserved the win they both have good reasons to win why some of the miguel fans mad about it😅
I like Miguel more than I do Robby (Robby is still peak)
but Miguel has infinitely more opportunities than he does. I think it was dumb for the tournament to have just one winner, but this way Robby can actually have a future. I see Miguel having a future similar to Daniel’s.
Robby 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Miguel might be the main teen character but Robby and Miguel are equal in strength
Man I’m sick of these Miguel fans acting like Miguel’s a god
Cry about it cream puff
Yes for real!!! Like i like Miguel more than Robby but he deserved to win the s6 fight because he remembered his miyagi do training. Which if his arm wasn't injured in s1 tournament i believe he would've beaten Miguel. He loses to miguel continuously after that because he is fighting based off rage and Cobra Kai training, which isn't his true self.
Miguel fanboys made me become a Robby fan 💀 the fact they starting crying because robby got ONE FAIR win lmfao. I hope Robby wins the entire tournament.
I believe Robby deserves the win. In the end they’re both fighting together in the Sekei takai. And if they win and get the money, Miguel can get to Stanford and Robby can do his own thing.
I swear people will always find a reason to claim miguel is better
He's still the better fighter. One loss out of four total fights doesn't really change much. Especially when he was stated by the creator to be unbalanced
@@aadilelamkulath7594Robby was unbalanced too
@@arafhamid1785 not after Tory came
@@arafhamid1785he was but when Tory came he wasn’t
@@JaVontoThurl well then in other fights Robby was unbalanced too. Miguel and Robby are equal
I wanted Robby to win, I was happy he did
How he won: the writers ordained it so
Robby should win the tournament but miguel should defeat kwon.
Robby is worthy of winning the 1st place. But unfortunately the leaks don't say the same. Lets hope the writers won't leave their idiocy get berseked as they did with Hawk.
I’ve always said this: the show robbed Robby in both tournaments, and honestly he’s a better fighter than Miguel. Both tournament loses he would’ve one if hadn’t got hurt/ distracted by Kenny
Big fan of Miguel and I share his name
But I really wanted Robby to win this and it's so satisfying
Tbh let Robby have this one win
I have only one issue with this fight: Robby only improved when Tory was there. He was giving his all beforehand but as soon as she popped up, that's when it changed and he won the fight
It’s about time Robbie won Miguel has got the better of him 3 times already
May I just say that some of y’all who are saying Robby won because of plot are just proving guy’s point
yea cant be second fiddle for a third time
Yes, Robby deserved it. However, y'all need to stop saying Robby needs to be respected more, he's the most glazed character in the fanbase 😭
Yep it wouldn’t have made sense if he lost, both of them will go crazy in part 2. I found the captain rule a bit weird tho
In season 1 robby might wins but he was injured
And Robby and Miguel didn't settle their beef. They are still enemies, but because Johnny is a pathetic fool who forces Robby into this situation they are pretending. Miguel has all the power in this family dynamic, so narcissist that he is, he's not gonna give up the power.
Robbie was fighting for more than himself and not selfish reasons. He was fighting for Tori to be there by her, side by side together. Like they said they wanted to be. Thats why when she showed up he won 3 rounds in a row.
Tylearn.
Robby should win because he’s not going to college and he can be champion like his dad and maybe be a sensei after the tournament
Robby always deserved it. Miguel has always been his villain and this is the first step to freeing himself from his abuser's hold.
There are no villains in Cobra Kai. Did you even watch the show?
Delusional fanboy, it doesn't matter because Miguel will win anyway. There is a leak image of Miguel wearing the captain headband and one with Robby having an injury on his face.
Don’t how you could see someone as your villain after you temporarily paralyzed them but ok then 😭🙏🏾
@@shadowv6859the captain handband and a Cobra Kai outfit.
@@JaVontoThurlwhen he assaults you twice because you walked down a steep hill with his girlfriend once
I’m a Miguel fan, but let’s be real. Miguel was NOT focused during that fight. Or rather, he LOST focus during the fight.
Miguel was focused in the fight.
He was fully focused on winning and nothing else. So this was peak Miguel. Anything less than that, and Miguel or Daniel would have spoken up about it.
Robby> Miguel
Daniel could tell in S1 when Robby was and wasn’t focused, so he would be able to tell if Miguel was also.
@@georgie545focused but not balanced
Miguel fans making excuses more than they touch grass
You need to touch some grammar
@@Comicedits39, Someone's mad 😂😂
@@Comicedits39 touch grass Miguel fangirl
@@MoSalah17-18 stop waffling Robby goonie
one of the creators literally said miguel lost cuz he was unbalanced 😂
Before when I first saw Season 6 I thought the writers were making them beef for no reason and I thought it was kinda dumb but now that you explain it like that this shit is tight
Still hate the fact that Tory turned on them cause her mom died
Robby is the best at choreography out of the whole cast, Miguel just been downgrading I think he’s lazy because of the success
Its good to see a different winner. Cant make Miguel to op.
I have a feeling Robby is going to get jumped by a group of Cobras and get seriously injured (like Miguel was after the school fight). It wouldn't be as severe but it would be enough to temporarily remove him from the competition. That will lead to Tory turning away from Kreese. Miguel will then help Robby with the emotional distress due to such a traumatic injury, since Miguel has already gone through that sort of situation. Miguel will take the captain spot while Robby recovers, but I could totally see Robby coming back to compete in the final. Miguel would probably get off the waitlist before the final, so he'd willingly step aside without regret to let Robby have his moment.
I was rooting for miggy in this fight but that’s just because Miguel is my favorite character. Robbie’s character definitely needed this more than Miguel.
Please make Apollo vs Chouzen vid please!
tbh my only issue is miguel hasn't really gotten a clean win against robby even in s5 where even tho he clearly wins people write it off as a stalemate id like to see miguel get a clean win on robby even if its like another all valley or smth
@@cinnamon_toast_crush what do you want Miguel to do then, put Robby in a coma and then say it's a clean win.
Miguel got enough clean wins under his belt
nah the school fight and apartment fight are each enough to show Miguel is the better fighter. At least in Street fights because in tournaments you earn points by landing a hit which is something you can do even without being the better fighter
@@aadilelamkulath7594not really man in every fight it could’ve gone either way and I think even the writers stated they are equal
@@arafhamid1785 Miguel always had the edge on Robby. It’s a very close comparison but Miguel understandably comes out on top
Difference was robby was able to fight with a clear head which gave hime the deserved win while miguel was probably distracted about the future which cost him the match. Robby deserves it because if Miguel was able to clear his head and focus on the match then the outcome would be different, Robby's win is proof he deserves it.
Miguel looked pretty focused and Robby was also worrying about his future
@@arafhamid1785he did beat him fair and square but you could tell Miguel was unwell in this fight the way he was saying stuff like (I need this for college) which he shouldn’t be focusing on that he should be focusing on the fight
@@JaVontoThurl Nah man Robby just wanted it more
Can you do another season ranking?
Can’t we all agree Miguel is better in a street fight and will probably win the sekai takai, and Robby’s better in tournaments and will probably have a happy ending.
Robby could’ve beaten hawk in the all valley but watched Kenny and lost focus. He also would’ve beat Miguel in their fight in season 5 if it was to three points. Miguel took over on the balcony cause he wasn’t losing up top again