I Watched the 1998 Tekken 3 World Finals. I'm Speechless.

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  • Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
  • Original: • GamesMaster S7 E09
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    20:26 - Tournament Resumes
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  • @joshthefunkdoc
    @joshthefunkdoc 5 місяців тому +722

    Whoa, perfect timing since i've been going down a rabbit hole of modern-era Tekken 3 & Tag 1 tournaments lately - thank you for covering this! Going to infodump a little on TK3:
    - The character choices on this show are...not *entirely* off the modern meta. India has a very active scene for this game and they absolutely LOVE Paul over there! Though i'm not positive on this, i think deathfist was much safer in 3 and Tag 1 was when they nerfed that and basically crippled him as a result. Heihachi is also probably #3 among the cast for the usual "Mishimas in old games" reasons + that runaway you saw. It's just that nobody was playing the characters who have long been considered god-tier. Speaking of...
    - One of the characters most conspicuously absent here was Jin. One thing a lot of people may not know is that EWGF was introduced in Tekken 3...but *only* Jin had it! Heihachi was given his EWGF in Tag 1, and Kazuya not until 4. Laser Scraper/Cannon is also all-around excellent in 3 & Tag 1, even if it didn't have the broken JF from 4. Another major advantage Jin had over Hei was iWS2, as a fast mid launcher that wasn't launch-punishable itself. Funny enough, Jin was nerfed in a way in the PSX version - the original arcade release allowed him to dash cancel in between the 2 hits of d/f+1,2 and this gave him infinite combos/blockstrings!
    - The other character people may be surprised not to see on the show is Ogre. Since Tekken Tag 1 is a much more well-documented game than 3, i won't go into too much detail as most of his bullshit you can read about was there in 3 as well. The key difference that elevates him to god-tier, though, is the fact that Waning Moon was COMPLETELY UNBREAKABLE in 3. Read that last sentence one more time if it didn't hit you right away.
    - Tekken 3 had one massively busted general property that, among other things, ended up making True Ogre a far cry from the menace he is in Tag 1. You know the generic running 3 that caused block stagger? In Tekken 3, they *couldn't block* during that stagger. This means you could get all sorts of guaranteed shit from those on block, from Bryan's f,f+2 all the way up to EWGF if your execution is on point! True Ogre's unique problem here is that running 3 hits GROUNDED vs. him, so any knockdown puts him in these completely horrible situations where he either has to continually eat those grounded hits or wake up into the running 3 (either getting knocked down again to reset the situation, or blocking it and still getting hit with something).
    - To add to other comments, Paul first gained Ultimate Punishment in Tekken 2. May have just been nerves that made Ryan miss it there.
    - After Jin/Ogre/Heihachi, some other real strong characters are Ling + Lei + Law. Ling's usual evasiveness combined well with the cracked movement in this game, and her WS2 was a 13f mid launcher that was completely safe on block. She also had great mixup potential from her juggles if you were willing to sacrifice just a little bit of guaranteed damage. Lei's stance mixups have never been better than they were in his 3/Tag 1 incarnation, and this was also when he first got Haha Step. Law was pretty funny for the simple fact that his 3,4 was a natural combo, especially when his punch parry gave him enough time to dash up and land it guaranteed. This was also when he first got Junkyard, and you saw the work it was doing lol

    • @the0manslayer
      @the0manslayer 5 місяців тому +10

      Extra note about the running 3 connecting on block; I think Law is the only character in the entire game who doesn't get anything guaranteed, since he oddly doesn't get "true" frame advantage off it.

    • @andymrb
      @andymrb 5 місяців тому +14

      if you don't mind, I want to add another fact that not every char. in Tekken 3 could do a low parry. Low parries were done through inputs like d+1+3 for certain chars. You can still find this in Xiaoyu's BT d+1+4; that low parry is similar to the old one from T3 & TTT1. When you do a low parry in T3 there's animation when the parry whiffs, but it recovers quickly, so you can hold down, go FC. And thus it's possible to create FC or WS mixups from executing a low parry.

    • @chocobo1
      @chocobo1 5 місяців тому +11

      I really appreciate you writing this up, I’d love to see more competitive tekken 3

    • @konodioda7209
      @konodioda7209 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@andymrbyes not every character,I think Yoshimitsu could low parry too

    • @Shodan130
      @Shodan130 5 місяців тому +10

      paul is probably the worst of the viable characters. like he isn't bad just in T3 the good characters have something mad cheap, jin's electric and hellsweep, ogre's waining moon and brutal block punishement. ling's evasion and oki, hei's block punishment and pressure, even outside that you mentioned law, lei, even characters like nina and yoshi were stronger than paul, yoshi's keep out and surprisingly good MU's against the top tiers, and nina's mix purely off of block is nothing to be scoffed at. compared to that paul just kinda... had paul stuff. every other high tier had something cheap. i'd put him just under king as while he is fundamentally more solid. king still had his silly i10 punish. which made up for the character otherwise being lacking.
      IF ANYONE HAS AN INTEREST IN T3 THE GAME HAS ROLLBACK OVER DUCKSTATION. YOU SHOULD GIVE IT A GO!!!
      also the netplay is better than t8's netplay lol .

  • @vivitarax
    @vivitarax 5 місяців тому +1392

    Legend says that if you look in the background of the first ever caveman paintings, you will see Ryan Hart on an arcade cabinet playing Tekken 3 and whooping everybody

    • @le13dan
      @le13dan 5 місяців тому +64

      I knew he was og but I didn't realise he was this og and that there was footage like this rofl. Reminds me of Cheeze TV in AUS.

    • @noname_noname_
      @noname_noname_ 5 місяців тому

      @@EraseTime rekt

    • @ankuj7808
      @ankuj7808 5 місяців тому +7

      ​@@EraseTimewhat else a kazuya is supposed to do.

    • @thadonis.
      @thadonis. 5 місяців тому +1

      His son is Billy Mitchell.

    • @lightup6751
      @lightup6751 5 місяців тому +11

      I mean to be fair, there are plenty of pros who started with Tekken 1, beta or location test. It’s crazy, definition of OGs who lived through it all and still play

  • @yoshomiamoto
    @yoshomiamoto 5 місяців тому +650

    Tekken 3 is widely considered the Golden era of Tekken as everyone who had a ps1 played it. I can't believe how well the game animations still hold up til this day.

    • @KBZee-nf3ff
      @KBZee-nf3ff 5 місяців тому +34

      Tekken 3 was my first fighting game and also one of the 1st 3D games I ever played . Made me fall in love with fighting games and the rest is history. This game would always have a special place in my heart .

    • @QenaitheCustodianGuard
      @QenaitheCustodianGuard 5 місяців тому +30

      Animations looks unreal considering the age of the game.

    • @jimmicrackhead12
      @jimmicrackhead12 5 місяців тому +24

      Huge jump from T2, and only small changes from 3 onwards

    • @kylespevak6781
      @kylespevak6781 4 місяці тому +11

      Still my favorite fighting game despite the fact I'm garbage at Tekken

    • @lllool8404
      @lllool8404 4 місяці тому +3

      @@kylespevak6781 Sadly relatable

  • @erickent4248
    @erickent4248 5 місяців тому +420

    This sort of thing is why those of us that remember the 90s, miss the 90s. It was a strange fun time.

    • @BronzeAgePepper
      @BronzeAgePepper 4 місяці тому +33

      it wouldn't be hyperbole or melodramatic to say that the world as we knew it ended the day the towers fell.

    • @user-zq1vh5cc8x
      @user-zq1vh5cc8x 3 місяці тому +22

      @@BronzeAgePepper After the Patriot Act of 02, the War on Middle Class, titled "the war on Terror" started.

    • @stevemeters3090
      @stevemeters3090 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@BronzeAgePepper I have to agree.

    • @RambleOn07
      @RambleOn07 3 місяці тому +8

      ​@@user-zq1vh5cc8xit's legitimately crazy how much the Patriot Act made everything worse.

    • @keneticwoodstone8830
      @keneticwoodstone8830 3 місяці тому

      The 90$ was the prime of modern age philosophy n life style, how does this act effect gaming? After 2001 gaming got online n has gotten more attention in a short amount of time 2 totally different world's other than writers implementing such moment's into their work.

  • @JT-nd6qp
    @JT-nd6qp 5 місяців тому +259

    Games Master was an institution in the UK. Totally iconic show. Shame they cancelled it. BTW if you were wondering about the old dude's face in the sun, that's The Games Master, who was portrayed not by an actor but by Sir Patrick Moore, who was the UK's Royal Astronomer and hosted a TV show called The Sky at Night since 1957. (He was basically like David Attenborough, except he talked about space). Normally the Games Master wore a cyber techno helmet and appeared on a screen like he was some kind of AI. Fun times.

    • @JiveTurkey1982
      @JiveTurkey1982 5 місяців тому +12

      There's a fantastic book out about the history of it called "GamesMaster: The Oral History" written by Dominik Diamond.

    • @Paekabou
      @Paekabou 5 місяців тому +2

      Ah takes me back! I was in the audience in one episode.

    • @fahadmalik8862
      @fahadmalik8862 5 місяців тому

      Good riddance Misogntsic waste of space

    • @fahadmalik8862
      @fahadmalik8862 5 місяців тому +2

      Too many women on the stage what the hell?

    • @Greenleaf_
      @Greenleaf_ 4 місяці тому +7

      I'm just surprised they showed respect to the players and the games. Normally on these shows back then in the us they were normally super disrespectful and making fun of the "gamers". Glad UK got it right.

  • @rrrlee1273
    @rrrlee1273 5 місяців тому +664

    Watching old tekken being played properly is so wild to me cuz being 10 yrs old at the time i never knew this game could be played like this and not be a mash fest.

    • @GuntanksInSpace
      @GuntanksInSpace 5 місяців тому +47

      It's actually wild yeah, our brains attuned to Eddy / Law Flip Spam / brazenly just letting Paul Burning fist rip, and these guys are actually playing fighting games properly lol

    • @hassancr13
      @hassancr13 5 місяців тому +14

      ​@@GuntanksInSpaceI remember playing T3 when i was a kid back in like 2006 on our computer, all we did was spam, eddy kicks spam, law uf4 spam, and alof of 1+2s and 3+4s with every character, i didn't even know crouch dash was a thing. Infact i didn't find out about stuff like qcf qcb hcf hcb cd low parries etc until Pakistan burst into the international tekken scene and took it by storm, i started watching tournaments in 2019 to see my countrymen play and got to know about the most basic to advance tekken stuff i never knew about. It was exciting to find out that there's so much more to this game.

    • @GuntanksInSpace
      @GuntanksInSpace 5 місяців тому +2

      @@hassancr13 It's actually funny, I started playing fighting games with 2D, but it was Tekken 3's movelist to teach me what the hell were the QCFs/QCBs after picking up Paul for a bit. It took me until Tag 1 to learn what the hell was a Mishima Crouch Dash (and what the star meant in the move list lol).
      Also an aside, I got to watch some of your countrymen dominate a local tournament in 2022, they were cool peeps too!

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero 5 місяців тому +7

      For T3 I had memorized all the 10 hit combos of every character and all of the multi-throw combinations. I likely still would've lost to any good player though. Back then fighting games were all about special moves, I saw little value in regular moves. And to me the 10-hit combos were essentially special moves.

    • @SharkfinExorcist
      @SharkfinExorcist 5 місяців тому +3

      It was hell of a mash fest in T3😂😂. No mashing here cos is a tournament with pros. Casuals mash literally all the time.
      Its the same as it is now in t7. Pro's in tournament prioritize movement. Casuals mash

  • @welsh_steel2285
    @welsh_steel2285 5 місяців тому +348

    PhiDX, you're one hell of a guy for bringing this up. You literally just unearthed a bit of nostalgia for me as an old brit.

    • @claudijatzandrapova3347
      @claudijatzandrapova3347 5 місяців тому +7

      me too, I still feel for the family playing Castlevania: Symphony of the Night as only their youngest son was told how to get the hearts - none of the other members of the family

    • @VolTheProducer
      @VolTheProducer 5 місяців тому +4

      Yea man - Loved Gamesmaster as a kid. It definitley got a bit "out there" in the later series!

  • @Z1nt3k
    @Z1nt3k 5 місяців тому +490

    Ryan Hart telling RIP he has won more tournaments than RIP will ever enter is still one of the funniest Tekken commentary moments. There just wasn't enough video evidence back then.

    • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
      @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 5 місяців тому +15

      I always thought this might be actually true

    • @HaipaSonikku
      @HaipaSonikku 5 місяців тому +36

      ​@@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701It was most definitely true and he has the Guinness to prove it. That was a very pivotal moment for him. He finally spoke up for himself after I personally was one of the few for him, the last two decades.

  • @Jewbit
    @Jewbit 5 місяців тому +159

    Really makes you understand how much of a legend Ryan Hart is considering he's still a monster at Tekken even today

    • @Hontonoki
      @Hontonoki 5 місяців тому +26

      and well-respected in the SF community too

    • @TheMixedPlateFrequency
      @TheMixedPlateFrequency 4 місяці тому +21

      Crazy thing is that he isn't just good at Tekken. He is like extremely good at almost every fighting game from old all the way to current generation. But probably more better at the older fighting games. I mainly only knew about him from when he played Capcom v.s. SNK 2 at first, but never knew he was also huge into Tekken before.

  • @Franklojpg
    @Franklojpg 5 місяців тому +310

    This made me realize that as a kid there was a whole world hiding behind the arcades that I didn’t know about while I was mashing buttons with my dad 😂

    • @xDivorex
      @xDivorex 5 місяців тому +25

      Lmfao 10 hit combo was our PEWGF back then.

    • @dangbruhskyy
      @dangbruhskyy 5 місяців тому +1

      🤣🤣 PEWGF is gold

    • @Gmanu29
      @Gmanu29 3 місяці тому

      Thats because the internet is not yet a thing back then. I remember we only know moves of the characters from the panel of the arcade machine, its like a sticker or a cardboard inserted in there.
      But these local guy who is really good told us that he gets the moves and combos from the internet and we dont know yet what that is back then.

  • @burni988
    @burni988 5 місяців тому +271

    What Ryan Hart said about being able to see the hit sparks in Tekken was always one of the main reasons I could never see other 3D fighters competing with it for me. Idk why the other 3D fighters didn't adopt hit sparks because for me it looks so janky without it because you can see that hits aren't actually connecting with the characters all the time.
    Hit sparks help to cover that up making the combat feel more impactful and less jarring to look at.

    • @lancergt1000
      @lancergt1000 5 місяців тому +21

      because other 3D fgs think not having hitsparks makes their game look more realistic

    • @burni988
      @burni988 5 місяців тому +47

      @@lancergt1000 It makes it look less realistic to me because the character juggles still exist (which are always going to be unrealistic) but then the lack of hits sparks also highlights that the characters don't actually have to have their hits visually connect in order to land, which I think seems even more unrealistic.

    • @Redcloudsrocks
      @Redcloudsrocks 5 місяців тому +12

      For me it's the opposite, hitsparks are there to fill in and make it look more flashy and action like when people are juggled etc.
      In DoA the hits connect more without sparks because the combat is different and connects more

    • @burni988
      @burni988 5 місяців тому +6

      @@Redcloudsrocks I agree with you in the sense that it makes combat more flashy as opposed to realistic. But I don't really know what you mean by it's different in DOA because "it connects more".
      And for me DOA will always look a little janky as long as it doesn't have hit sparks :/

    • @jasonelbow3807
      @jasonelbow3807 5 місяців тому +12

      Those hit sparks also hide flaws in animations too. You ever seen how Kazuya looks doing a hell sweep? Man literally breaks his back lol

  • @Phillyjoe2
    @Phillyjoe2 5 місяців тому +73

    How effing cool is this reaction! I am 41 & from the UK and GamesMaster was the absolute must-watch TV growing up back between 1993 & 1998. I was actually in the crowd for an episode in their 3rd season, which was set in a prison. I met someone that won a golden joystick too 👍

    • @TTVRockstarquezz
      @TTVRockstarquezz 3 місяці тому

      Dude !!! That must of been amazing 🎉🎉🎉🎉 you have footage ?

    • @petrolhead0387
      @petrolhead0387 3 місяці тому +1

      Gamesmaster and Euro Trash were every teenage boys religious watch growing up in 90s UK.

  • @shawnz12ss
    @shawnz12ss 5 місяців тому +160

    This footage did a lot to help archive the competitive Furlong scene/meta.

    • @konodioda7209
      @konodioda7209 5 місяців тому +4

      I still think there some old tournament t3 archives on old Tekken zaibatsu

    • @capngeeoff
      @capngeeoff 5 місяців тому +15

      I feel like they could've better managed their whip meter

    • @Shendue
      @Shendue 4 місяці тому

      @@konodioda7209 r/woosh

    • @Jetanium
      @Jetanium 3 місяці тому

      ​@@konodioda7209you can still access TZ? Teach me.

    • @ignaciogodoy7095
      @ignaciogodoy7095 2 місяці тому

      @@konodioda7209Furlong and T3 , just like the movies

  • @TheOnlyPersona
    @TheOnlyPersona 5 місяців тому +123

    22:12 THE WAY I SCREAMED HOLY SHIT TEKKEN IS HYPE NO MATTER THE ERA

    • @TheOnlyPersona
      @TheOnlyPersona 5 місяців тому +21

      BRO HE DIDNT JUST PARRY THE LOW, HE QUICK STOOD, BLOCKED THE FIRST HIT AND THEN PARRIED. WHAT A GOD

    • @CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC
      @CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC 5 місяців тому

      ​@@TheOnlyPersona in tekken 3 heihachi 1st hell sweep just did a little electric damage, it didn't knock down

  • @sharksmate
    @sharksmate 5 місяців тому +32

    Debbie may have won, but I believe we're all winners today.

  • @somefecker1807
    @somefecker1807 5 місяців тому +20

    THIS is why I love your channel man. I'm constantly watching all kinds of Tekken media as a total nerd and yet you never fail to amaze me with these obscure finds. Not to mention your commentary and insight. MORE. PLEASE.
    Also damn young Ryan Hart was already looking scary.

  • @lancergt1000
    @lancergt1000 5 місяців тому +179

    There's no universal low parry in Tekken 3, only some characters had a command low parry like Law or Paul

    • @rickykang4671
      @rickykang4671 5 місяців тому +3

      Yes and as long as I remember if you parry any kick moves you can launch but not for punch moves

    • @RescueArk
      @RescueArk 5 місяців тому +21

      Law,lei,Nina,yosh xiouyue had low perry😊

    • @jinpei05
      @jinpei05 5 місяців тому +10

      Hwoarang had low parry too

    • @KarlKognition
      @KarlKognition 5 місяців тому +6

      Bryan had the command low parry too.

    • @jhulenoscarantezanamendez6106
      @jhulenoscarantezanamendez6106 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@RescueArkthink Julia had it too, at least she had it in tekken tag

  • @OffMeta-Gaming
    @OffMeta-Gaming 5 місяців тому +52

    BRO I WAS TUNED IN to these matches! some of the hypest matches i've seen in a while. this was great, we need more of this!

  • @jasonmorrissey9921
    @jasonmorrissey9921 5 місяців тому +14

    Ryan hart used to ask me to play a round on killer instinct and tekken in the arcade when he was a youngster and he didnt have the money to play video games,still in contact with him now

  • @zubrhero5270
    @zubrhero5270 5 місяців тому +21

    I genuinely loved watching this video along with someone so enthusiastic, your commentary adds a lot.
    I'm an old(er) fart, I'm 40, from England. When Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo came out, there was a free giveaway taped to the front of a magazine that was as thick as a phone book. It had EVERYTHING in it, all the terminology, all the frame data, safe/unsafe etc etc. It was genuinely overwhelming to the point I took it with me to read on my holidays. I used to take my little MK2 handbook with me to the arcades to try and enter cheats/do fatalities.
    And honestly, I must have been staring at the artwork because it took me until watching tournaments in the fighting game community online and crazy combo videos to start actually figuring this stuff out. I would have been button mashing X and O as Tiger/Eddy back when Tekken 3 came out.

  • @lt_johnmcclane
    @lt_johnmcclane 5 місяців тому +148

    Dude this is a great find! Made my day. I’d love to hear Ryan Hart talk about his experience on the show

    • @Felipera_
      @Felipera_ 5 місяців тому +17

      I was thinking just that! We gotta get Ryan to talk about this

    • @tobsmonster2
      @tobsmonster2 4 місяці тому

      He was on a podcast recently with Chris Tatarian. He goes over his past and they discuss current FGC, check it out

  • @Dahbomb88
    @Dahbomb88 5 місяців тому +55

    This is a damn gold mine of endless entertainment!

  • @redthecollector
    @redthecollector 5 місяців тому +7

    I watched this a while back with my mate. Absolutely mind-blowing how outrageously '90s UK' this thing comes off. Decent vid dude

  • @Mr_Gixxer
    @Mr_Gixxer 5 місяців тому +3

    What a great video with great energy and commentary. Subscribed.
    Somehow I never saw this show growing up, I would have loved this

  • @ejdavie7733
    @ejdavie7733 5 місяців тому +113

    Fun fact: Eddy Gordo was the sole reason low parry was added to Tekken 😅

    • @vargasaidan7366
      @vargasaidan7366 4 місяці тому +2

      yea idk anything about tekken or fighting games really but eddy looks OP AF

    • @moots2874
      @moots2874 4 місяці тому +9

      You could jump over Eddy strings for free in T3 and he'd be back turned for ever completing animations.

    • @nedson6503
      @nedson6503 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@moots2874 He's still extremely jumpable, well in Tekken 7.

    • @petrolhead0387
      @petrolhead0387 3 місяці тому +3

      Only ones that I hated fighting as much as Eddy were Gon and Dr B.

    • @ShoNuff_Ali
      @ShoNuff_Ali 3 місяці тому +1

      I believe it. I spammed the hell out of that windmill kick back in the day 😅

  • @burni988
    @burni988 5 місяців тому +43

    It's very funny and interesting to see the commentary difference between then and now. Idk if it's about time period or the audience that this was for, or maybe both.

    • @PhiDX
      @PhiDX  5 місяців тому +28

      Probably audience

    • @mosley3485
      @mosley3485 5 місяців тому +3

      Games Master was just a general videogames TV show. The host doesn't really know anything about Tekken.

    • @wildercerrate7295
      @wildercerrate7295 5 місяців тому +1

      I mean the guy doesn’t really know tekken. I’m giving him the benefit of a doubt because he’s doing his hosting quite well but this could also just be a job for the guy

  • @isaacvampful
    @isaacvampful 5 місяців тому +95

    I love old tekken. No rage bars, no ping pong juggling, no climatic super specials.

    • @richardwilliams877
      @richardwilliams877 5 місяців тому +35

      Only rule in tekken 3 is: 50% of moves do half bar, lol

    • @lukejones7164
      @lukejones7164 5 місяців тому +15

      Old Tekken was filled with big damage short combos

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 5 місяців тому +17

      ​@@lukejones7164Because it wasn't about endless juggling, wall splats and 110 damage strings.

    • @lukejones7164
      @lukejones7164 5 місяців тому +15

      @@seanyoung9014 You missed the point 🤣. Old Tekken was more broken because you could get more damage with fewer moves so it didn't need long juggle combos, wall splats, rage, etc and BS upsets were more common back in the day

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 5 місяців тому +13

      @@lukejones7164 I didn't miss anything. I've been playing since Tekken 1 and the point was to not get hit by those combos in the first place. There was far more focus on defense in both Tekken and Virtua Fighter and pretty much every 3D fighter because the character movement wasn't as good. Also, on the old console versions the damage was adjustable so that wasn't even a big factor outside of arcades. Calling old Tekken more broken is pretty ridiculous.

  • @heidibenner1577
    @heidibenner1577 5 місяців тому +8

    Yo PhiDX. This was quite a blast from the past. My experience with Tekken has always been me playing on a casual level. 20 years ago here in Tucson was the Tekken Tag 1 scene. I used to watch my friends play that game all the time. But I was playing Street Fighter and VS games back then. I even went to Evo back in 2003, and at the time it was known as the Battle by the bay series. I went to B4. I met and saw a bunch of the high level players at the time. I'm planning on going to Evo this year for Tekken 8, and even if I get blown up it'll still be a great experience. I'm playing with the Tucson Tekken scene once again, but on a more serious level. Not just casual, and I don't know if you know some of our crew out here in the Tekken scene. Maybe if you go to Evo this year I'll see you there? Keep it up with these old school Tekken videos. Great blast from the past. By the way, there's a channel I stumbled on to here recently. It's a bunch of high level players in Tekken 3, and they play it regularly, even now. That group of people are out in India. I'll find a link to the channel and leave it here for you and others to check it out.

  • @TheOnlyPersona
    @TheOnlyPersona 5 місяців тому +22

    And suddenly I realize you’ve become a cool enough YT personality that I enjoy experiencing things along with you. So keep making video game related reaction content (tekken focused as is your niche) alongside your analysis and you’ve really got something!
    (Comment before finishing video, curious about the fights still)

  • @lancergt1000
    @lancergt1000 5 місяців тому +55

    Back in Tekken 3 Heihachi's hellsweep didnt stagger on block if you hit its just frame, its so nuts 😂

    • @NickTheSickDick
      @NickTheSickDick 5 місяців тому

      The just frame thing is from t4, in the it just straight up didn't stagger.

    • @ultralowspekken
      @ultralowspekken 5 місяців тому +15

      No. It straight up does not stagger. Lmao

    • @Steambull1
      @Steambull1 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, what @ultralowspekken said. It was Tekken 4 where you could do it with just frame inputs. Tekken 4, in general, added a lot of just frame stuff. Most of it has been removed since.

    • @aryanburnwal2371
      @aryanburnwal2371 5 місяців тому +10

      Nah, it just doesn't stagger, moves staggering on block was added in tag1

    • @lancergt1000
      @lancergt1000 5 місяців тому

      @@aryanburnwal2371 bruh thats even more insane

  • @ArtDealerGangHoldings
    @ArtDealerGangHoldings 5 місяців тому +2

    This was such a great watch bro you’ve been dominating content lately

  • @ayeitstommy7974
    @ayeitstommy7974 4 місяці тому +3

    Love your content man. I go to the gym to look like a tekken character only to come home and watch your vids in order to fight like one. Good content, good audio quality, solid advice. Thanks man

  • @SaltedMallows
    @SaltedMallows 5 місяців тому +53

    Dude this is amazing. Just imagine if you teleported to the past
    and you knew KBD you'd be a beast just for movement alone Lmao.

    • @lightup6751
      @lightup6751 5 місяців тому +12

      That is true. But then again KBD is a direct result of the players who competed back then in the past. They came up with all the tech we use today

  • @xgueTtax
    @xgueTtax 5 місяців тому +20

    17:05 Absolutely best moment right there!

  • @notmychannelname42
    @notmychannelname42 5 місяців тому +3

    I don't even play games like this but this video is so fun to watch. Especially how much you are into competitive fighting games. All the jargon and excitement really made it entertaining.

  • @VinnCon
    @VinnCon 3 місяці тому +3

    this video randomly popped up on my feed, I wasn't even a person into the competitive tekken scene but thank you algorithm, this is great content that I didn't know I needed !

  • @WHKIDtv
    @WHKIDtv 5 місяців тому +83

    Was so crazy seeing young Ryan Hart. Final Furlong was at the arcade where my brother worked. We loved when the ladies would play. My first experience with T3 was a cowboy on the sticks doing King's chain grabs and no one knew how to break them. I learned King pretty soon after that.

    • @heidibenner1577
      @heidibenner1577 5 місяців тому +5

      That Furlong game was at the same arcade I used to frequent on the daily over 20 years ago.

    • @kyon2221
      @kyon2221 5 місяців тому +11

      Man I thought I was the only one here experienced final furlong in the arcade here in Philippines back when I was a kid. Man what a nostalgia ride back then. Props to Namco and Sega for making interactive arcade games in the past.

    • @fahadmalik8862
      @fahadmalik8862 5 місяців тому +1

      Would you stop Degrading women please. Anyone can play. An Android can play anything. Simple as that

    • @TheGreatAustino
      @TheGreatAustino 3 місяці тому

      Are you serious right now lol

  • @teriston
    @teriston 5 місяців тому +22

    This was amazing, the public demands more of this. Old-school reviews of tournaments will be awesome, make this a reoccurring thing.

  • @emil4763
    @emil4763 5 місяців тому +3

    Awesome!! I had no idea this even existed so big ty for bringing this up man!

  • @darianstarfrog
    @darianstarfrog 5 місяців тому +6

    Aaahhh the 90's ..only been downhill from there.. thankyou for your added knowledge to that..was a gem from the past for sure..

  • @hizasama
    @hizasama 5 місяців тому +97

    The lack of Jin is actually very surprising! What a tournament!

    • @saporob
      @saporob 5 місяців тому

      Everyone at the time knew jin was stupid OP, even outside tournaments.@@Steponmeplease-gy8es

    • @opo3628
      @opo3628 5 місяців тому +4

      @@Steponmeplease-gy8es - I never got the impression that T4 Jin was ever slept on. His parry was very quickly discovered to be the most broken crap ever.

  • @andymrb
    @andymrb 5 місяців тому +29

    Very impressive Tekken displayed IMO, considering in 1998 these players had far less tools to what we have now. No practice mode* , no frame data**, far less 'Tekken tech' were shared on the internet, no online play so they had to travel to different arcades to learn different character match ups, and so on.
    Imagine if these 4 players were born much later and competed in Tekken 7 or 8, in their teens/early 20s.
    footnote:
    * Tekken 3 on PS1 had practice mode but this was definitely recorded far before the game was released on PS1. Season 7 episode 9; aired on 27th Jan 1998. While PS1 T3 port was launched in Japan 26th March, North America 30th April, Europe 12th September.
    * * back in the late 90s & the early 2000s frame data were featured in Japanese game guides AFAIK; rarely found anywhere else. There were definitely efforts made to gather & publish frame data for free on the internet, such as the ones featured on TekkenZaibatsu, but the earliest frame data they had were for Tekken Tag 1.

    • @Shodan130
      @Shodan130 5 місяців тому +2

      the games were also much simpler in the t3/tag 1 era. like KBD and movement in general was so strong that for the most part the barrage of knowledge checks and pressure just didn't exist. as anytime someone made you block a string. you had the choice of dealing with it with it's specific counter (duck the high, side step the liniar move, low parry the low etc) OR you could just KBD. 1 backdash in t3 was like 3 tekken 7 backdashes and faster too. so KBD was the low risk low reward option, it's what made t3 and tag 1 such neutral heavy games.

    • @lightup6751
      @lightup6751 5 місяців тому +1

      That is very true, these guys were so ahead of their time.
      But I think it wouldn’t make a difference if they were born in the T7 era and modern, competitive gaming. That’s a bit of a paradox.
      The reason we got players today that mastered KBD, crazy tech with insane reflexes and game plan is only thanks to these guys.
      They paved the way. And no one was on their level in the 90s.
      If they were born later, some other crazy gods would have been there in the past to mark the beginnings of competitive tekken and fighting games.

    • @kenlee1149
      @kenlee1149 5 місяців тому +7

      I was actually around at that time.. These guys hung around Namco Wonderpark in Shaftbury's Ave...Sho actually brang the golden joystick to Namco WP to show his mate.. by 1998 Namco held a Tekken 3 tournament.. By than Ryan levelled up so much he was literally unbeatable...The guy from Norway entered... He had levelled up as well and was beating everyone getting 20+ win streaks... But everytime Ryan faced him.. He never could win.. Ryan had his number.. Around this time there was this tall Skinney Indian player who was also at that Ryan Hart level.. dunno his name though.. Those arcade days were the best...

  • @Leftie2Guns
    @Leftie2Guns 3 місяці тому

    One of the best original videos I’ve seen concerning fighting games. Great job 💯

  • @takarin64
    @takarin64 5 місяців тому +5

    This was so enjoyable to watch, was not expecting the ryan hart jumpscare. What an amazing piece of media

  • @Yokoso-kj7ij
    @Yokoso-kj7ij 5 місяців тому +15

    The Japanese champion played it right, he recognised that it's a short set so he cheeeeeesed😂🔥

  • @Flawlesslaughter
    @Flawlesslaughter 5 місяців тому +15

    If you haven't already, I'd highly recommend the tekken ball tournament. It should be easy to find, but the meta is crazy in that game. I think it was law vs true orge, where true orge has some nuts check mate situations with fire but I believe the law had good counter play too. It's honestly way better than it has any right to be

  • @themonotropicguitarist
    @themonotropicguitarist 5 місяців тому +2

    This was so fun to watch! I miss Tekken 3. Used to play the whole neighborhood on PS1 back in the day. Good times.

  • @RenoRKM
    @RenoRKM 5 місяців тому +9

    Wow this is nostalgia at its finest... met Jeff Shu and his brother around that time thru Ben Curton (Tragic) in Vegas... Wow!!! I remember talking to him about this tournament, finally got to see it.
    This was way before Evo... Valle was still an unknown in the Tekken scene...

    • @leokismet8586
      @leokismet8586 5 місяців тому +3

      Winner got 20quid and a ham sandwich 😢

  • @kyuss7921
    @kyuss7921 5 місяців тому +20

    I believe Paul did have the ultimate punishment tackle option back then but the input window was almost just frame, may be wrong though

    • @Garupan
      @Garupan 5 місяців тому

      He had it since T2 i think.

  • @SleepmodeFGC
    @SleepmodeFGC 5 місяців тому +11

    I remember coming across these matches a few years back and being absolutely floored by the fact that Ryan Hart was beating people up way back in those days 😅
    Also low parry *is* a thing in Tekken 3 from memory, but only certain characters could do it

  • @reddtells5244
    @reddtells5244 5 місяців тому +1

    Excellent find!! This is a treat

  • @h15c0r3r
    @h15c0r3r 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for sharing this, I live in the UK and watched this religiously along with buying the magazine. Great memories and a lot of fun.😊

    • @petrolhead0387
      @petrolhead0387 3 місяці тому +1

      Gamesmaster and CVG were always my monthly bibles, also watching the TV show in the morning with my friends brings back warm memories. Then eurotrash at night with volume turned down 😂

  • @jmoorenyc7382
    @jmoorenyc7382 5 місяців тому +33

    Korean backdashing was really introduced in Tekken Tag 1 pioneered by Jiang Iksu. Movement was increased as well. Theses were the days of fundamentals and outsmarting your opponent,good times indeed.

    • @Leadblast
      @Leadblast 5 місяців тому +1

      Wavedash definitely started to become famous by the time of Tag 1 as used by the pro Koreans like Jang Iksu, but it existed back in T3 as well. Did not exist in T2 or T1.

    • @arasseo_wakarimashita3904
      @arasseo_wakarimashita3904 5 місяців тому +1

      Its not introduced in tekken tag. Actually it came first in tekken 3. Trust me. I am started playing tekken. 3 when i was 15 years old,1999. I saw it in arcade. When the side stepping introduced tekken, backdash and front dash and that Korean dash were there already.

    • @AC-LING666
      @AC-LING666 5 місяців тому +4

      back then people were'nt calling it Korean backdashing it was just know as backdash, the D- riding wasnt hard during TTT1 like it is now

    • @CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC
      @CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@AC-LING666 no. It was Korean backdash back then too.

    • @AC-LING666
      @AC-LING666 5 місяців тому

      @@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC No it wasnt i was active on TekkenZaibatsu and the korean Tekken Central Forum during 2000 up to 2006 and everyone just called it backdash

  • @atsurokihara5525
    @atsurokihara5525 5 місяців тому +15

    This is so sick. Do more retro content! Maybe watching Tekken 5 Evo matches or something?

    • @atsurokihara5525
      @atsurokihara5525 5 місяців тому

      Bro - a video where you lab tekken 3 and maybe play matches with a friend could be awesome. There's a version of Duckstation that has rollback netcode that could do this

  • @ao_qd
    @ao_qd 5 місяців тому +1

    This was so fire!! That low parry was insane!

  • @yohannowsla367
    @yohannowsla367 5 місяців тому +2

    watching this high was the best idea i’ve had this year so far
    Happy New Year btw🎉

  • @AnggoroArif
    @AnggoroArif 5 місяців тому +4

    I was in professional tourney in 1998 (managed to land in top 20 in my country). This video is so heartwarming, makes me reminiscing about the past.. Thanks for the memory ❤

  • @Tagmata
    @Tagmata 5 місяців тому +18

    22:29 "It must've been stage nerves, too many women on the stage."
    I'd be nervous too if I was playing Tekken 3 on a beach with many women in bikinis cheering me on

  • @Titus213-xc7pi
    @Titus213-xc7pi 3 місяці тому

    Earned my sub wit dis one popping up randomly on the algorithm while I was online! Ur a legend ❤

  • @randymartin9040
    @randymartin9040 4 місяці тому +1

    This might be the single best thing I've ever seen, thank you, instant subscribe. Thank you for finding this fucking gem. Great video!!!

  • @Donrickytheonlyone
    @Donrickytheonlyone 5 місяців тому +3

    IM SO GLAD SOMEONE FINALLY COVERED THIS

  • @Anonymous-kl6rz
    @Anonymous-kl6rz 5 місяців тому +3

    Man this got me feeling old.. I remeber playing tekken 3 on PS1 with my uncles and cousins.. This brought back memories

  • @mrsaturn1792
    @mrsaturn1792 5 місяців тому +2

    Man those times seriously I miss them soooooooooooooooo much.... This is gold in my book , I love this ....

  • @ThatLuckyBear
    @ThatLuckyBear 3 місяці тому

    I'm only two rounds into the first match and this is BANANAS. Your commentary is the only thing keeping me up to speed. Great video, perfect commentary.

  • @Omega_Weapon15
    @Omega_Weapon15 5 місяців тому +5

    Would love to see you analyze more classic tekken. Kenbou vs Jackie Tran for TTT1 is one of my all time favs !

  • @mikechannell727
    @mikechannell727 5 місяців тому +16

    So funny seeing an American discovering GamesMaster for the first time. This show was the absolute GOAT in the 90s.

  • @nelsonthekinger
    @nelsonthekinger 4 місяці тому

    100% unexpected! thank you so much for bringing this! this is gold!

  • @Fluptea
    @Fluptea Місяць тому

    Bro, what a throwback! I was a major GamesMaster fan, I use to collect the magazines. I literally have about 300+ GM mags in the attic/loft! Great find PhiDX, appreciate you sharing it in reaction content form.

  • @Cell4TR
    @Cell4TR 5 місяців тому +5

    Im actually amazed by how T3 animations looks still good to this day

  • @omni201
    @omni201 5 місяців тому +5

    Tekken 3 is what got me into Tekken. Watching someone get kicked into the air and then helplessly juggled like a ball by a psychotic clown blew me away

  • @RDG99
    @RDG99 5 місяців тому +1

    It's always so cool to see footage of very old FG tournaments. And this was on TV?!

  • @Cleggsta
    @Cleggsta 2 місяці тому +1

    Brother, this show was legendary for us as kids / young teenagers growing up in early to mid 90s England. We had no internet, it wasn't in the home when this first came on TV. There were monthly Gaming magazines which were our only source of news, but often they were a bit behind what was going on as they were monthly / bi-monthly. So, Channel 4 Gamemaster, with world famous astronomer Sir Patrick Moore as Games Master, with rough n ready Dominic Diamond presenting - this WAS our guide to the world of home consoles, games, arcade trends etc. We looked forward to this show on Channel 4 ALL WEEK!!!!
    Great to see you watching it! The 90s was an incredible time to grow up, with the massive developments in home games systems!!!

  • @thecpu3949
    @thecpu3949 5 місяців тому +8

    'sall cool and that but can we make "Watching 90s gaming tv shows together with PhiDX" a series? Shit was hilarious to watch 🤣🤣🤣

    • @PhiDX
      @PhiDX  5 місяців тому +4

      we goin variety boys....

    • @thecpu3949
      @thecpu3949 5 місяців тому +1

      @@PhiDX hey - you said you enjoy content creation as much as competing! 😉
      either way, this one was a good find! was kinda surprised Ryan didn't show any mishima gameplay there

  • @flashstatus9025
    @flashstatus9025 5 місяців тому +6

    That zoom in on Ryan Hart was nutts 😅

  • @KnoxAnder
    @KnoxAnder 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing this, very enjoyable 🔥

  • @Zlist1994
    @Zlist1994 28 днів тому +1

    lol i was only like 4 in 1998, but somehow, still the world seemed way better back then to me. I'm glad we still have these old gems that get uploaded to youtube so the next gen can look back like a time machine. Awesome vid and channel!

  • @wavy-vh9xb
    @wavy-vh9xb 5 місяців тому +4

    The cut to the galloping on the horse was fn great

  • @donsq4306
    @donsq4306 5 місяців тому +11

    The 90's and early 2000's were so packed with entertainment I watched cabel TV for days each country had something to offer.

  • @kingdomkey92
    @kingdomkey92 5 місяців тому +1

    Damn i was at the edge of my seat watching that. Can't believe that was Ryan Hart all the way back then. Good on you PhiDX for bring this up this gem of a video, that was enjoyable.

  • @jamescardella2133
    @jamescardella2133 5 місяців тому +1

    This was dope! I played Tekken 1 back in the arcades, yes I'm old. Thanks for the memories!

  • @phoenixc64
    @phoenixc64 5 місяців тому +3

    Ryan is an absolute Legend and such a nice guy... I remember when a few from spanish community travelled to the UK in the early 2000 he was there too. I fought against him in TTT I think best of 5. I won the first round and he then proceeded to perfect me the rest :D I really need to digitize all the VHS I have from back then...

  • @cristeffen
    @cristeffen 5 місяців тому +9

    Low parry exists in T3, but is a comand 1+4+df (or d), or 2+3+df (or d), and gives a small combo for some chars, but if my memory doesnt betray me, only a limited amount of chars had the comand to low parry, Lei my main char had (mishimas i think dont had). i had play a lot T3 in arcade, and the record of consecutive wins in my city in T3 still mine and will die with me, 109 wins in the arcade, with Lei and King(you can switch chars betwen matches when challenged in arcade).

  • @facksmasheen
    @facksmasheen 5 місяців тому +1

    I was hoping you'd do some more old tekken, didn't expect a full rewind to the beginning. Neato.

  • @beverchakus4441
    @beverchakus4441 5 місяців тому

    man thanks for this vid! that was such an intense watch. but i remember tekken 3 foundly. eddie was super OP.

  • @tournaline3448
    @tournaline3448 5 місяців тому +7

    What’s funniest is how the guy watching misses all the jokes / humour. Gamesmaster was special.

    • @MrNimrod42
      @MrNimrod42 5 місяців тому +13

      Bro, when the host says at 18:15 "girls that was very exciting to watch... Now if we can talk about the race..." I was creasing.

  • @ShaolinMonkster
    @ShaolinMonkster 5 місяців тому +4

    10 seconds from 90s entertainment is much more entertaining than 1 hours of todays entertainment

  • @ahmado9191
    @ahmado9191 4 місяці тому

    This was an awesome watch!! Blast from the past, Also its crazy to see how long Ryan Hart's been competing, such a legend!!

  • @MisanThrope-cu1mw7fj3p
    @MisanThrope-cu1mw7fj3p 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing! Enjoyed the show as well!

  • @majorlazor5058
    @majorlazor5058 5 місяців тому +4

    When watching the into it reminded me of a 90’s Radiohead music video and Trainspotting. When he opened his mouth and was clearly Scottish it all made sense.

  • @shaolinpunkFTW
    @shaolinpunkFTW 5 місяців тому +3

    T3 is such a great game to watch as well as play. Still holds up.

  • @Trist805
    @Trist805 5 місяців тому +2

    That host was pretty funny. You had good commentary, too, man. I'm a casual from back-in-the-day, and I barely knew what was going on, but Tekken is still awesome 😁 I like how Hoisten* got humbled and the regular guy won. Also cool without all the rematches and best-out-of matches.

  • @ryancumberbatch7526
    @ryancumberbatch7526 4 місяці тому

    Been playing since tekken 1 and recently picked up T8 and loving it, found your channel and been watching some videos - was gonna sub anyway but this video really sweeted me cause im english, definate sub now!

  • @YourArgumentIsInvali
    @YourArgumentIsInvali 5 місяців тому +3

    That low parry into divine cannon was epic.

  • @HowlGough
    @HowlGough 5 місяців тому +6

    There used to be a brit gameshow where people would call in and play Tekken over the phone by hitting numbers lol. It was mad and the first time I ever saw Tekken and Virtua Fighter anywhere. Might have had Dominic Diamond presenting but can't remember.

  • @k.c.r.5974
    @k.c.r.5974 5 місяців тому

    Yo! This was awesome! I hope we can get back to gaming tournaments like this 😅 It is actually unique and really fun I enjoyed this and your commentary was funny and on point! Another video game show on tv was the one from Nickelodeon Nick Arcade in the early 90's but it was more like a gameshow.

  • @skibidi.G
    @skibidi.G Місяць тому

    Great clip, liked the voiceover 👌

  • @RichardCoskey
    @RichardCoskey 2 місяці тому +3

    The 90s was just a better time.

  • @TheDantheman12121
    @TheDantheman12121 5 місяців тому +4

    as a brit who is now 39 I used to love gamesmaster.

  • @cliffordsmustache
    @cliffordsmustache 5 місяців тому

    Nice upload, thanks for that retrospective Boss 🖖

  • @thebossman80s
    @thebossman80s 3 місяці тому

    Nice video, brings back memories of watching this show when I was a kid. I met the games mistress who gave out cheat codes on the show and got her autograph back in 1994. I have also always been a fan of Tekken. It was the first ps1 game I bought in 95 and I still have it. I played every Tekken game religiously back in the day except Tekken 4. I remember playing Tekken so much I would smash controllers with frustration 😂 those were the days!