The Fake Gibson That Saved... Gibson??? - Slash's Les Paul - If Guitars Could Speak... #12
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2020
- We all know that Slash played a Les Paul on Appetite for Destruction.... but did you know the secret behind it? It’s pretty shocking and ironic! Let’s delve into it together!
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Legend has it: Slash’s fake les Paul actually had the ability to stay in tune.
😂😂😂
Obviously you never seen them in concert back then. It was out of tune more than it was in tune.
@@thejakefromstatefarm6768 haha sadly I haven’t been able to see that.
@@beatsmithaudio9245 im old. Lol
@@thejakefromstatefarm6768 In tune or not, I would kill to have seen them in their prime
One could say the same thing about Jake E Lee's infamous white and black Charvel. It wasn't a Charvel - it started out life as a hardtail Fender Strat that the old 'antique' sunburst finish. Feeling left out by the cool kids that had custom guitars and new van halen like super strats, a friend of his that worked at the Charvel paint shop took his strat, painted it the now famous pearl white, reshaped the headstock, put on a black pickguard and added a Charvel sticker on the headstock.
Well… that’s what Charvel actually did back in the day. They started with modifying Fenders.
@@gabrielbrouwer Wayne started by working at Fender and then branched off to repair and refinish Fender guitars. Then the custom thing came along and then the overseas folks did that much cheaper, he made full guitars.
Oh one of my heroes... made me persevere in my guitar journey... i love the whitey charvel/fender to the heart and he also used an interesting pickup confuguration
Gibson had to copy a copy in order to release their "authentic" AFD LP!🤣🤣🤣
I bet that burned.😂
I doubt it, since idiots line up to buy it
@@JawedKarim763 idk you sound bitter you can’t scrounge together the money for a les paul 🤣😂
@@sunnohh idk you sound bitter because you paid too much for a modern Gibson (POS). I'll compare my guitar collection and playing to yours any time you're game.
@@sunnohh idk you sound like you're missing a few chromosomes if you think the only reason people won't buy Gibson is because they can't afford it. LMAO
@@JawedKarim763 totally. When I was a young musician, I didn't play Gibson because I couldn't afford one. Once I was finally able to afford one, I found much better ways to spend my hard earned money.
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Good
We won’t be missing anything then. #playauthentic
Pass the Kleenex!
@@Ndlanding This isn’t a good time to jack off.
#PlayAuthentic___PlayWhatYouCanAfford
This makes me appreciate knock offs that are good and to not always go for the bells and whistles of an expensive brand, rather, get better at playing with a decent Guitar 🤘🏽
2500 usd in 1987 for a knock off iss 6,642.52 usd today
Izzy was also great on that album. Its the stones inspired interplay between slash and izzy that really kills. Izzy used a jazz box primarily, believe it or not.
I never understood why more people didn't pay attention to Izzy in the tone department. He is just as important.
This is a good story on the
musicians and their
equipment.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Slash brought style and tone back to guitar playing. Most players were EVH/Yngwie copies with pointy headstock shred sticks. I played in the L.A. guitar scene and while you would still see Les Pauls it just wasn't as common. You'd see one Les Paul for every thousand shred sticks. And of those players who did play LPs, they didn't know how to get a good tone with it. Slash reinvigorated the LP and what it was all about. There were simply many more choices in pickups that players were not considering. The choice of Duncan Alnico II pups was just so perfect. The most common replacement pups in LPs at that time were the DiMarzio Super Distortion, the Bill Lawrence 500XL, and the Duncan JB paired with a Jazz neck. The A2 Pros had that special mojo that got Slash's tone over the top and brought out the best in his playing.
Basic nonsense
yup Slash and Adam Jones brought Les Paul back into the spotlight!
Axl roses assless leather pants in 2:15 had me dying
So hilariously cringe 🤣
They're called Chaps, for riding Harleys. The joke is always assless chaps but to be honest theyre always assless or they would just be called pants.
It escaped my eyes the first time through and I was perfectly fine with that. Thanks for ruining the video for me. Ha!
Shocked there weren’t a million more assless chap comments.
I saw that shit and was like "uhhhhhhh...". 😳
i met chris's brother a few years back... he was selling chris's les paul custom he used while at berklee college of music in boston. I got the full story about the AFD les paul.
Very nice! Please fill any holes you know of.
Please, tell us more about !!!
Do tell
Tell the full story of afd les paul
Good time! I was In Hollywood when the band battle took place with LA Gunns & Hollywood Roses
As a shred player myself I was very happy to see someone like SLASH come onto the scene!! I like that he not only brought back the les paul but also the slower more Blues Influenced playing.
That hitchhiking trip must have been hell on Steve Adler. Who would stop and pick up a man with a drum kit strapped to his back?
Fake gibson did not save gibson. It was simply Slash. He’s fingers would bring a dead bangkrupt guitar dealers back to life
I think you’re taking my title too literally... yes, I know the player gets more credit, but it was just a good title for the video that was kind of a play on words. Thanks for watching!
@@TheGuitarHistorian I think you took that comment too literally. It's clearly just a joke based on a funny exaggeration and I don't even care why am i writing this have a good day cool video.
"TheRicokilla" you are right, but without a great sounding guitar and amp also Slash wouldn´t have become famous at all. I must say that "The Guitar Historian" brought that perfectly to the point, as he told, that Slash was frustrated with his tone until this copy guitar war brought to him. Very good Story! Thank you "Mr. Historian" :-)
If he played a Strat or a Jazzmaster he wouldn't have saved Gibson, it was him playing a LP copy.
This is a great channel. Keep doing what you do
Thank you, man! Great to know people like what I do!
Ok no p point jjjkjjjidiiklriiuhfhji
Slash didnt use a gobson. He used a copycat les paul but it wasnt a gibson. Come on u. Knew that
.................... did you watch the video, dude?
Great video! It's crazy how many people still to this day don't realize that guitar wasn't a Gibson at all.
The Les Paul replica Slash originally played and recorded with, was built by my brother, the late Peter Max Baranet. Slash has said in interviews that he owns 2 Max guitars that he now keeps stored in a vault. He only uses them for recording.
Fun fact eric Clapton took off the humbucker covers from his les paul and that's how he got more of a clean cut sound
If my guitar could speak it probably say
"oh my neck"
😂🤣
great story man. thanks for putting in the work to get it out there to all of us guitar nerds. much appreciated.
Love this stuff, thanks for making these videos Sir
That being said, do not buy a Gibson LP if you want real slash tone.
What would you advise then?
@@wodenoftheangles3339 aim for some quality brands like Fernandes etc. that offer Seymour Duncan pickups that are one of the most famous pickups that Slash used for like a 1/3 of Gibson's price...
@@permonstudios Hmm, MIJ lawsuit guitars would get you some of the way. But in truth, the sound comes 90% from the pups. Ensure your resistance values are as close to Slash's as possible (not too fizzy) and that they are Alnico 2 magnets (doesn't have to be Seymours necessarily).
He used mainly Silver Jubilee Marshalls through the 80s.
Those, a heavy pick and lots of sweat and tears and you won't be far off... lol
nonesense , an lp standard on a marshall = slash sound . and dont start bout pickups , the stock lp standard pickups and slashes signature seymore duncan have litlle difference
A good copy can easily do Slash and others. No need for a Gibson. Overpriced nonsense.
Wow! I did not know this. Excellent video! My mind is totally blown now.
It’s not weird that Gibson needed to copy a “copy”. It is understood these replica very frequently exceed the originals quality. By their manager buying this fake Les Paul, he increased the chances of it being of very good quality.
even nowadays the ''Copies'' (high end replicas built by master luthiers, none of that chibson crap) are better than modern day Gibsons. Gibson simply doesnt have access to the good woods for preservation reasons.
@@thezosokid How would you know? Seems to me they still have access to Mahogany, Rosewood, and Ebony. Every company will eventually churn out shitters. A master built luthier will probably only be slightly less than buying a custom shop gibson unless you get into their premium territories.
Wonder if that ever happened to fender hmmmm?
@@peepongdingdong9208 I'm not saying that they don't have somewhere a small stock pile of fancy woods for premium builds and artist guitars. As far as regular production goes, the woods are not even remotely close to what Gibson had back in the 50s.
@@thezosokid How so? The standards have triple a grade flame top which sometimes is better than some examples of late 50's gibsons.
I don't recall that store at all, we would usually just trek up to Hollywood to shop, but yeah, there were the odd mom and pop shops locally (I grew up in Redondo Beach.) In terms of tone, I seriously doubt that anybody has ever craved the "Slash tone" but obviously he has some catchy riffs, which may be mistaken for having "a sound." Impressive footage and audio, bravo.
This is really an amazing story, thanks for sharing it!!! Finally I understood how the hell Slash decided for a LP, which if course is a great guitar, but not all high end models can really compare to a professiinally hand crafted instrument, and a guitar player can easily feel such a difference, which by the way is not always about tone!
That guy you called, Chris Derek looks very much like Jim Foote of Music Works Redondo Beach. He's also a luthier and repairman. Hmmmmm.
Great Stuff - Really enjoyed it :)
Great research man! And a great revealing story indeed! Cheers 🍻
Love that kind of stories !
Thank you very much for sharing it!
Nice channel. Really enjoyed the video. Thanks from Germany.
Danke! 👍🏻
Slash also gave a lot of credit to the modified Marshall amp he used when recording AFD, when he talked about the tone on the album.
What an amazing story! Great video!
Wow, I didn't know. This is cool. Nice channel. He actually went to UK to source the older wood for tone. So much planning and preparation for a guitar he didn't know would be legendary. Just out of passion for making the best sounding guitar he could.
Bro... *New* England.
Also, you realize wood in England isn't "older", right?
Also also, you do realize tone wood in heavy guitars is a complete myth, right?
If you look at the grain pattern, you can easily see that every Les Paul guitar pictured in this little blurb is different. Don't look at the the whole body, just look at the pattern around, say the pickup selector switch...all very different...
True. He only shows that particular axe a couple times.
took twelve months of touring and airplay to get recognized... ...today's internet manufactured bands don't know how easy they have it.
well if everybody gets easy promotion you still have to work harder than EVERYBODY else to be visible in this endless surge of artists. Its more competition if anything.... though i get your point things have changed alot, it's a different ballgame altogether now.
@r m I only write #2 kick songs that hit dick.
Ok boomer
Manufactured bands (and vocal groups) have always existed AND always had it easier than anyone creating original music.
The Internet has leveled the playing and permanently altered the music industry (for the better in my opinion), but as others have pointed out even though the Internet makes it easier in many ways there is a level of competition unlike anything in the pre-Internet era.
Pre-Internet you got yourself recognized locally, then regionally, nationally (maybe), and if you were very lucky eventually internationally. Today on the Internet you are competing with people from all over the world from the beginning.
Bands back then had to mine 40 hours a day in asbestos mines!!! Kids these days!!!
this is a great video! you've done well! subbed!
Thank you, man! Glad you enjoyed. Check out the other vids in the series; there’s more where that came from!
First time seeing your channel. Love the content and the old-school documentary-style narration, which is much better than the snarky, loud, annoying modern style.
Thanks man!
I’m pretty sure slash states all of this in his book.
Every single note he played on AFD was from the Derrig LP
No, he used an SG on My Michelle. Slash said the song called for a darker tone. As far as I know, that is the only deviation from the Les Paul.
Great video!, cheers from Chile
big thanks to
1. Mr Derect - guitar creator
2. The guy who bought the 'copy guitar'
3. Slash - the real player
Great video! Great content!
Copy of a copy, Gibson finest moment! Great video!
Slash used it for the first time for the recording of Appetite For Destruction (1987) and on the tour which followed the album (Dates, including at the same time the date of the Ritz in New york of 02/02/1988 )
What was originally a "must try" guitar for the studio eventually became its main guitar.
The guitar is quite similar to a faded Les Paul but this one is lacquered and fitted with Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro Zebra pickups.
The handle was broken in 2 places but repaired since.
The guitar is only used in the studio these days because Slash is very keen on it.
She holds the secret to the legendary sound of Appetite For Destruction.
In 1996 he bought a second Gibson les Paul Derrig from Jim Foote.
Finally, it served as a model for the development of the signature Gibson Slash Appetite model.
In 2011, she had some feedback issues alros that Slash is recording her second solo album. It is Seymour Duncan who will take care of fixing it. ( Slash france )
@@guilletjean-jacques5107 great info! Appetite is one of the best rock albums ever!
Not only did Slash recorded most of his big hit records with this "non-authentic" Les Paul,but he also hunted down aother Derrig replica and alledgedly paid a hefty sum for it.
Fun fact: the guitar had originally, real vintage Gibson humbuckers in it, but Slash didn't like them and swapped them out with the S. Duncan Alnico Pro II set.
He still uses the "AfD" Les Paul in the studio today and his buddy, Lenny Kravitz also owns one of these Derrig replicas and has used it extensively in the studio. It´s also rumoured that Slash uses "ghost build" guitars made by outside luthiers,which are replicas of the "AfD" when he´s on tour.
And nowadays, the schmocks from Gibson are selling to idiots with too much money their "authentic" Slash signature models with "authentic Slashbuckers" instead of the Duncans.
the only "non-authentic" part of the guitar was it wasn't officially made by Gibson. but in terms of raw materials and construction, the "non-authentic" guitar is faithful to the original late 50s les pauls than the modern authentic ones.
@Jennifer Maple the derrig and other faithful replicas are better than a great majority of Gibsons les pauls today, even the custom shops. same goes for fender replicas.
@@mateodeleon1185 indeed, if this person was employed by Gibson as a master builder, it would still be a Gibson!
I'm blessed to have 3 guitars made by Music Works from that era. Two are one of a kind and one is a Les Paul. Curly maple flame top except the wood was cut to give it a swirl pattern rather than the ripple effect. Duncan pickups. the whole 9 yards. Beautifully made and now 40 years later it's still solid and sounds righteous.
@@DPLyle-hj4cw good for you. they're keepers. there are still a handful of luthiers that can still make accurate LPs using the same techniques in the 50s with old growth wood. its just that old growth wood is getting harder to find as years pass by. the cost of original PAFs and harness keep appreciating every year.
It wasn't that guitar that saved gibson, it was slash, zakk wylde and randy rhoads.
well said man..
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👌🏻
Zakk is just a pentatonic runner
He could have played any other guitar, playing a LP copy saved Gibson.
The zakk models are absolutely garbage!!
Wow, i did not know that. Gotta love great luthier plus great player together. Great story Thanks
That is not Kris Derrig @ 6:13, the guy holding the guitar is Jim Foot, owner of Music works, The store is still open and he continues to provide guitar and amp repairs. he has worked on all of my Les Pauls and Strats. Good video...
Yeah someone else pointed that out a few weeks ago... the problem is that it appears there are NO pictures of Derrig online... when you put his name you get those pictures of Foote with the guitar, but no Derrig.
I'm not sure I would describe this particular guitar a burst. It's clearly always been one colour. There's no two or three colour fade like a burst.
love this video andthis channel! keep doing you man! +1 subscriber !
Thank you brother!
I think John Sykes and the 1987 album helped out with the Les Paul coming back into fashion.
Slash, Sykes and Wylde were the saviours for Gibson in the late 80s.
Steve Clark as well
That’s bullshit. Back in 87 most people had the image of Vandenberg or Viv Campbell in mind when thinking about the 1987 album.
@@gabrielbrouwer but it was false and the guitarists like me who knew who were the real musicians on Whitesnake's 1987 album weren't fooled by the MTV version of Whitesnake
regarding Les Pauls.. GARY MOORE. nuff sed
Suggestion- Joe Perry and Slash’s 59 Les Paul. You know the tobacco sunburst one seen in the November rain video.
Its also the walk this way guitar
@@sam_uelson I didn’t know that. Only video I have seen of that song was the RUN DMC collab
for the last time, the guy was certified by gibson to make custom les pauls for west coast clients, it is a real gibson
I don’t know the story behind this but that description to me suggests a guitar build under license or accreditation by an external luthier, not a fake ( by the commonly accepted definition), but nonetheless not a factory Gibson either
very very well made video thanks a lot!
Excuse me, but your story about Chris Derrig is not correct. First of all, that’s not Chris in the pics of the guy holding the les Paul’s. Secondly, Chris lived in Atlanta Georgia before he went to California and I helped him source wood for his les Paul copies. I still have the rest of the board of maple the slash guitar was made of, along with a nice drawing of a les Paul that Chris did. Chris was a super nice guy. It is so tragic he died before this guitar became famous. He died from cancer probably caused from chemicals he used in restoring a car and also from finish he used in his guitar building.
Thank you for sharing the story.
He knew guitars inside out he could make the better guitar from the supposedly ’real’ guitar.
Well, I think te whole concept of the video is still accurate and enjoyable
Are you saying that the nitrocellulose fumes gave him cancer? Or was it fumes from other chemicals?
@@edwardmonsariste4050 chris had a pontiac lemans that he worked on. the chemicals for stripping off paint etc were very toxic. we all heard that the drs found all sorts of traces of those chemicals in his liver. i would also think that the lacquer added on to that. the last time i talked to him i was working a gig in san deigo and he was in redondo beach. i wish everyone could have known chris. the nicest fellow you could ever meet.
@@billhatcher9303. Thank you for the added info.
Yeah he sounds like a cool guy that would have prolly had an even larger impact on the music business if he didn’t pass away when he did.
It’s like Leonardo DiVinci dying right painting the Mona Lisa.
This is rly a good Channel dude
I find hilarious that pretty much all the most famous Les Paul’s are so vastly different to the standard Gibson Les Paul we all know and hate. Even my own Les Paul is geared more like Zakk Wylde’s (though doesn’t have the paint job, instead it’s Mat Black), it’s also not a Gibson either.
R.I.P. Chris Derek🙏 What an incredible contribution 🤘
*Kris Derrig
Great story...love it!!
Thank you for sharing!
I enjoyed the video, very nice bro
Went through 7 custom shops, several really great collectors choice Lester's... But the one that sounds most like a burst? My 85' Tokai LS200 with Arcane pickups in it
How cooool ! I play a less Paul copy, and I love it and I have two real less pause. They’re all great what I love about the copy as it’s lighter, it must be chambered.
Slash' guitar be like..
"Hi dad! I'm a you wanna be."
Gibson be like..
"You no my son, but you are now."
Burny makes a pretty good copy i hear,but the story of a soul proprietor making a Beautiful copy is one i never heard before, amazing stuff.
Just FYI that is not Kris Derrig in the Video. That is Jim Foot who is the owner of Music Works. He is Alive and well still running Music works in Redondo Beach California
Pretty sure 5:28 is when he said “I’m not pulling an Angus Young here, okay” then headed to change his pants
I just got a Slash signature playing it a bunch on my channel- most amazing guitar I’ve played!!
Really enjoyed this great stuff let’s have more 🇮🇪👍
Thank you!! There’s 15 other episodes in the series; check ‘em out!
Gibson had to copy a copy of Gibson ... what irony ! Great video. Thanks.
Awesome video
:)
I've heard several younger players in the comment section use this as justification to purchase a Chibson. Unfortunately for them, Slash's Les Paul has the American made quality with high end appointments vs the Chibson 'quality'.
Either way, when Gibson made the Slash signature model, they made a copy of a copy of a signature signature guitar. Since the Les Paul itself is already a signature guitar.
Wow. Never new this. Interesting story.
WHAT? My mind is blown! Instant subscribe after 6min!!!
So true! Slash’s legendary Les Paul is a non-Gibson made Les Paul copy, and if someone made one of those today Gibson would sue...
No Gibson would send Mark Agnesi to do a hit on the luthier
@@tjkong4381 Authentic hitman 😅
I love stories like this about gear. I'm a gear head. The first step is admitting you have a problem.
Subscribed ! Hit the bell, too.
G'day from downunder. The only way this Gibson story could get any more ironic is if alanis morissette was involved somehow. I hope management sees this, as well as many more guitar fans. Stay authentic;) (reminds me of the SRV 'fender' with the alleged tokai body too)
I mean seriously. This guy clearly made a better guitar in a damn trailer than Gibson makes with a multi-million dollar company. They deserve to get teased! 😂
He did an excellent job.
I owned a 1972 Lea Paul black beauty and paid $275 before Guns and Roses. After G&R that guitar sold for almost 20 times as much. Still plays as good as it did when I bought it for $275 no better.
Great video
You should do one of these about Jerry Garcia's "Bolt" guitar. It was built in 1993 by a fan, Stephen Cripe, it was the first guitar they had ever built, and they sent it to Garcia on a whim and he loved it, it became is main guitar until his death in '95.
Wolf, Tiger, and Rosebud also have interesting stories behind them, but Bolt takes the cake, it just showed up in the mail one day at the Grateful Dead's office and it became Garcia's main guitar, how likely is that scenario to play out like that?
Please do BB King’s « Lucille », his Gibson ES-335. Great content though, Nice work!
It is on the list! Doing it soon!
I actually have a Vintage Paradise with Wilkinson zebra pickups, basically based on this one, as one of my main guitars that I've been playing for a few years.
I have the same great guitar for its price
This was super interesting.
I enjoyed this very much,
Amazing story!
i didnt know this, awesome!
I read somewhere that Frank Zappa's Gibson SG wasn't a real Gibson either. A fan made it for him.
Very cool. The amp he used on AFD had a crazy story too. The funny thing is a Gibson was used on AFD. An old SG on one track haha.
Spotted a reversed pic @ 3:47.. unless Slash and Duff decided to play left-handed that day.
Nice story but it could say "fender" or "crap" on the headstock but i picked up a guitar thanks to that sound, now i smile when i play loud a guitar.
Fascinating!
I took lessons at Music Works! The store is in El Cerrito, CA not Rodando Beach. And if there is one somewhere else it's not the one you pictured, that is definitely the El Cerrito store. My teacher is Rob Michael, look him up the guy is a wizard. (Not to be confused with Robert Michaels) I took lessons there from age 10 to 18, I remember when the original owner died, the whole crew was very sad. They never sold Gibsons from the time I went there. If you ask anyone there why not they just say it's a touchy subject and move on.
Gibson counterfeited a counterfeit. And then went on to sue counterfeiters for copying the original counterfeit . Oh my god I just went cross eyed. LOL .
LOL...."Gibson copied a copy"......Great video. This shows that a guitar well made, with unique well selected woods, can rock the world, despite not being "original".....thank you !
Derrig died of cancer from spray painting nitro in his apartment without a mask, because otherwise he wouldn't be in touch with his art.
The irony of Gibson having to examine that guitar to make a copy of a copy of their guitar so poetic... Remember kids play authentic😅😅😅😅
6:08 is not Kris Derrig, its Jim Foote, he own the shop in which Kris made a few of his replicas. Jim Foote is holding 9 0606 - Kris Derrig's personal guitar.
Thank you for pointing out. I found this out later. I was unable to find a definitive picture of Derrig
@@TheGuitarHistorian email me @ revodiver666@gmail.com
Here's what your looking for 5:54
It was a Less Pawl by Chibson.
I had a Fander Steetocaster.
Rock info..pretty cool man thank you'
Amazing story. I had no Idea