2017 Mazda 6 Wagon vs 2017 Volkswagen Passat Wagon Comparison Review
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- We compare two of the best wagons - the Mazda 6 and Volkswagen Passat. See who wins our Passat vs Mazda 6 comparison - and let us know in the comments which wagon is best, in your opinion! SUBSCRIBE and join our car community! ua-cam.com/users/chasingca...
Comparison of the Mazda 6 estate / Mazda 6 wagon and Volkswagen Passat estate / Passat variant / Passat wagon.
Compares interiors, practicality, price, and driving of the Mazda 6 vs Volkswagen Passat.
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Australian video car review of the 2017 Mazda 6 GT Wagon and 2017 Volkswagen Passat 206TSI R-Line. See more video car reviews and Volkswagen news and Mazda news at chasingcars.com.au.
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Love your commentary as you go Accross all the ranges not just the one your driving. Definitely subscribing! Keep up the good work and reviews
Another brilliant comparo Tom.
Whilst some may complain about a lack of detail to the granular level, I find your reviews refreshing and easily digestable.
Wishing you continued success.
Thank you Ben - glad you're enjoying the videos, and thanks for the feedback.
It's really a damn shame we don't get either of these wagons in the U.S., but I'm hoping tastes will change soon when the generation being shuttled around in their parents SUV's are old enough to drive and start having kids of their own. Just like my generation wants nothing to do with the mini-vans we rode in as kids of the 90's, I'm hoping today's middle schoolers will discover the coolness of the wagon..and hatchback car as well.
That is a very interesting and insightful comment. I hope you’re right.
5 years later I have to point out you missed an important detail for some, do the rear seats lay flat? couldn't really tell from the footage
Enjoyed the video and I'm still eon on the mazfs. You forgot the Bose sound system as standard and the heads up display as standard.
All of the above is my opinion but you did a good job covering the basics.
The head up display is a bit of plastic that pops up not a windscreen projected one... these 2 cars are non comparable
Where would you place something like a Skoda Superb 206tsi in this pack? I feel like it might have slightly less class than the Passat but the feature set, even on the base model, is a cut above IMO. Whether they do a facelift with active driver display might bring it up to spec with the Passat. But in this segment I'd take the Superb for sure.
It's a good question Guy. I did consider adding the Superb to this comparison, but I decided to keep it as a simpler two-way test between two more recognised badges, 6 and Passat. Basically, the Superb is a great alternative to the VW if you want (a) to spend a little less and (b) even more room, because the Skoda is massive. Sure, it's not quite as refined as the Passat wagon but it's almost there. As you've pointed out, it's in small things like the Active Info Display that VW deliberately hold back from the Superb that keep the Passat out in front, and allow them to command a higher price for it.
I own an "old" Subaru Outback 2.5 liter from 2008, despite the low performances of the 2.5 flat four, I am really happy with the car but after 250.000 km, it is time to look for something else. I am not a big fun of the last Outback, their look is a bit too much "SUV" and to have better performances the only choice is the 3.6 liter...which I guess is insane for maintenance costs. So I thought a recent Passat 2.0 TSI 4motion (second hand from 2017-2018) could be a good alternative to my old Subaru. A lot of space, comfort, 4wheel drive, plus performances and a decent style. What do you think? Has the car any problem? I find the mazda not bad as well but since both of them aren't real sport cars but family cars, I prefer to have load of space then a sport feel handling. Thanks for the review.
Heyya, what is the recommended fuel for the 206tsi r-line?
It would be interesting to see what trim level of Passat you can get for Mazda price
This Mazda is the 6 GT petrol wagon ($43,990). For that price in Australia you can get a Passat 132TSI Comfortline wagon ($43,990), though it isn't as well equipped as the Mazda.
Just compared European (Latvian) prices.
Top spec Mazda wagon 2.5 192 HP is available for 34 410 €.
Closest possible configuration for Passat is R line 1.8 TSI 180 HP DSG 7 (R18 rims) - 37 400 €.
The most expensive Mazda version - 2.2 diesel 175 HP / AT / AWD - 41 000 €.
Passat Variant R-Line Premium Edition 2.0 TDI SCR 4MOTION 190 HP DSG 7 with almost exactly the same options - 45 553 €.
So, for similar configuration, the price difference is about 10% in favour of Mazda. Keeping in mind VW reliability issues, it should be opposite.
I'm driving Subaru Outback now and looking for replacement options, currently Mazda seems to be the best choice.
Thank you for your review.
Please bring the Mazda 6 wagon to the US.
Why don't you get digital radio in the VW where you are? We've had that in Europe for around 750 years!
I know! It's like they haven't heard of it in Australia. The only VW/Skoda product with DAB here is the Fabia, oddly.
Hey tom what about the skoda suburb estate because mat watson did a review between it and the audi a4 avnt and vw passat estate and the skoda won, do you agree with that and will you do a review on the skoda?
We're actually reviewing the Superb Sportline next week Johnathan, so you'll see our comments on that car soon. Superb is a great alternative to the Passat if you're looking to spend a little less and need even more space - however it's not quite as upmarket inside as the VW.
Where is the skoda superb review?
Skoda is poor fit and finish. Second rate car.
Which is 'better', not which is 'best'! (of two) Putting that pet gripe aside, I've just sold a 6 and bought a Passat. The latter is definitely quieter and on a long run, more comfortable. You don't get as many bells & whistles on the VW as standard but I prefer the refinement and sense of quality that it has. The 6 was disappointingly thirsty for a diesel and in the end I went for petrol in the Passat. One other factor is that as you get older and less flexible, the VW is easier to get into and out of! The 6 feels a good bit lower and IMO looks better than the Passat but the 6's tailgate aperture isn't as accommodating for transporting large items.
Try the 240hp 500nm passat
Ill be looking at medium-large wagon and sedans before I consider an SUV, many of which are just jacked up hatches of various size. I think wagons are still the best for families especially when you hit the highway to cover 1,500kms. Which for me mean to Darwin or to Adelaide as the close major cities. Or the 2,000kms trip to Townsville I did in July in what is one of my current cars, a Mitsubishi 380 SX.
The VF Commodore has about 2,000 litres with the seats down which is awesome but I'm unsure what will comes of the new 'Dore after the purchase of Opel by PSV....
It would be neat to have an Optima wagon in Oz. But hey, both the 6 and Passat are good family and highway haulers.
And then there are sedans......
Agreed. I also find wagons more relaxing (and ultimately more stable) for long-distance cruising. After PSA kill the Insignia in a few years that'll be it for the New Commodore. I doubt there will be a Commodore-sized wagon from Holden after that point because the only wagon on the US market is Buick's version of the Commodore Tourer, which will also die off once PSA flick the switch.
Good thing Mazda, Volkswagen, Skoda and the premium brands are still fairly committed to us wagons fans.
Chasing Cars PSV...PSA...I may have mixed up with a football (soccer) team.
Are yes, Skoda. I think the Skoda Superb has to one of the best things going. I know two people who have Skodas and swear by them. I little more expensive in servicing but very reliable and incredible space in the Superb.
Dude the king of wagons is Skoda Superb. That thing is massive. If you want practicality you need a Superb. I own a Mazda 6 Wagon and it’s better than VW because it’s fun to drive and not dull as the VW
Love the Superb wagon and it is cool that VAG gives a choice between both the Superb and the Passat with the 206TSI 4MOTION drivetrain.
Hi, is this the mangan grey color (VW)?
The Passat is Indium Grey
Thank you for your answer.
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I live in the US, I wish the market hadn’t excommunicated larger wagons. I grew up with wagons in the 90’s (both wagons we had were from the 80’s) and I’ve always preferred their set up. My whole family is on the taller side and today’s SUV/CUV’s just don’t have decent legroom/cargo unless you get some behemoth vehicle all to offer that pedestaled high seating position. Sedan (or saloon) based wagons have a MUCH better driving experience, are more aerodynamic, and offer more space! I fault American buyer tastes which, for some reason, prefer to have their legs squished so that can sit high up and lean into their window when they take a corner. Seeing these two wagons makes me want to sneak one back to the States, if only it were possible 😢.
You didn't make any mention of the 6 speed auto vs the 7 speed DSG which always breaks down, or any mention of the fact that all the extras in the VW add heaps to the price.
+Peter J. Uren Thanks for adding that. The 6A in the Mazda is pretty flawless. However, the Passat's DSG feels great - these gearboxes have come along way. Both the Passat 140TDI and 206TSI have a wet clutch DSG which isn't problematic, while the dry clutch unit in the 132TSI is a new gearbox that seems so far to be free of the foibles of previous iterations.
As for options, the Passat you see here has no options apart from metallic paint. At least in Australia, standard kit is generous. In particular, the Passat has more safety kit for less money.
There was one problem regarding oil in the 7 speed DSG, and the wet clutch DSG's had problems when they first came out ..... 14 years ago now. Move on. Double clutch gearboxes are by design more durable than conventional autos as they are more akin to manual transmissions.
For what it's worth, my seven-speed dry-clutch DSG in the Mk 6 Golf that I own has been essentially trouble-free throughout its lifespan.
I had a MK6 1.6 TDI DSG 7 speed as well. Amazing gearbox and trouble free completely. MY new A3 6 speed S Tronic is an awesome gearbox as well. Very good units.
Peter J. Uren there always Will be horrorstories.. our company has Lots of cars with dsg gearboxes.. never had problems with it!
Great review. Love my Passat TDI with tons of torque and huge mileage. We don’t get the wagon though!! I hate SUVs!!
The wagon is the best Passat!
Shouldn’t a large wagon be a comparison to a large suv? Not a medium one?
+Scott Thompson Big price difference in our market; this price point (40-50k) is very price sensitive so my feeling is that in the dealership families consider these mid/large wagons against medium SUVs
The Passat is so much better that this should not be a comparasion
Better in what?? Breaking??
@@emilnordstrom9531 do you have this passat?
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The Tiguan has 615 litres only when the rear seats are pushed forward! So the Passat has way more than 10% more space in reality
I believe he said 10% more than the Mazda wagon.
@@seansteel3326 No - 10% more than the Tiguan - about 30% more than the 6
I'm curious to how well a Mazda6 wagon would do in the US. I'm sure the company doesn't want to risk rocking the boat with its SUV customers
+Mr. Mazda It would be interesting if they tried it. Australia is experiencing something of a wagon comeback, so perhaps the US will too at some point. Alternatively, perhaps wagon-based crossovers are a happy midpoint, like Volkswagen's Alltracks or the Subaru Outback.
I'd love to see wagons make a comeback but the SUV market is so ferocious over here. The SUV is even drowning out the family sedans now
The Background music are making me fall asleep.
This is just touch screen vs simplicity
What about the alltrack version vs the outback
That's definitely a video I'd like to do in future. I am a big fan of cladded wagons.
Mazda sounds impressive with the diesel. Boot is smallish for such a large car, though. I think the Skoda Fabia wagon is almost bigger. Also the bonnet is so long it looks like it could have a V10 under there. A bit too much style of substance perhaps. Agree the Passat can look a bit bland, especially in base trim. I'd go Passat because it's so much more practical and refined. Also really enjoy the new DSG gearboxes.
That's a good summary. Although the Mazda 6 is a stylish piece of kit (especially in high-spec trim) the Passat just nails the brief better, mostly because of the massive amount of space for people and cargo. And while it's conservative, the Passat is quietly attractive.
Dont go anywhere near mazda diesel, so ive been advised
Mazda 💪🏻😍
Mazda is a no-go in norway, just because They dont make hybrid, PHEV or full electric cars.
Now, Im a big fan of stationwagons, owned a V50 and V70.
But overall, Skodas are better buy than any other vw. Suprisingly premium, cheaper to buy/ maintains and looking more sharp/ modern.
The Norwegian arrangements are very interesting. Fascinating the hear how brands like Mazda - without more sustainable options - are held back there. Agreed regarding Skoda. Great cars at great prices.
I disagree I’m seeing more and more Mazda 6’s and the CX-5 is one of the best selling SUV’s in Norway.
#VW
Mazda😍😍😍
I wish people in South Africa would realise that station wagons are much more practical and easier on the pocket than SUVs. Station wagons have all but disappeared from the South African car market. Now there are only stupidly overpriced SUVs which everyone seems to throw money at.
Womz People in the US say the same thing. SUVs flooded their market and killed off wagons.
MAZDA 6
VW any day of the week
WTF is this guy talking about??? so he gets 9l/100km in town with a 2.5 petrol engine and he complains about fuel economy!?!?!?! Like damn you don't get this numbers with a 2l diesel....and this guy is complaining , for me is Mazda all the way , and I'm a guy from EU who's sick and tired of all the shitty cars out of the WAG group.....
9L/100km in town is not a score to be proud of.
Mazda.
Mazda is better
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What is Mazda's problem with NVH? People have been screaming at them for decades about this problem which continuously holds them back in the premium market. For F##k sakes Mazda can you fix this already already?
Mazda are not a premium brand, they are not BMW, Mercedes or Lexus etc and their NVH levels are far superior in their all new products - the new CX-9 and CX-5 are vastly improved, and genuinely both are the quietest in their class. The 6 is the next Mazda product in line for a generational change (due within the next year) and it's expected to adopt the same NVH changes as its newer brothers - might I add as well, the 6 facelift (not an all-new model) is far quieter and more premium than when this generation 6 was launched.
I tend to agree, Jake, although I think Mazda have the *potential* to command a Volkswagen-style premium (10-20% more expensive than mainstream brands), and they will realise that potential if the refinements to NVH and interior fitout continue.
Well what you should be doing is agreeing with me, because by definition of what you said, Mazda are not there yet. Let's start applauding when they get there not on the thought that they might.
Cars like the new CX-5 (when specified with the diesel) are there, though, so I'll stick with the comments I've made.
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My god why is your voice so tiny and throaty.
+Chris Sorreda MORE crappy audio from our Sennheisers. I've gone back to our old Rode mic until I can work out how to stop the really inconsistent quality from a mic that should be much better!
Chasing Cars Awesome! Sorry if i sounded rude.
He’s Australian they all sound like that!
Mazda is better then vw
Alpha romeo is bether then mazda