There are shades of brilliance in this game for sure. At times I was in awe looking around, the lighting and shadows were really damn good, but then certain areas like the prison npc’s were lacking. The gameplay was impressive, which is the biggest factor for me. Overall I loved the game, and immediately wanted more. I hope the same team continues to make Batman games into the future.
in asylum and citys case they were already planning on making city, with a easter egg found a couple years ago in asylum showing plans for city, i do hope that they make a 2nd game and hopefully bring it to pcvr along with it.
Batman does it fairly well but I typically prefer the floating hands, with the hands my mind fills in the blanks meanwhile full body typically gets pretty janky and the legs look weird
There IS a good spider-man VR game, but it just has an open mode where you fight some drones. The swinging mechanic is on point though. One of the only videos on my channel.
I completed it yesterday and I can say Batman Arkham shadow is one of the best gaming experiences I have ever had. This is what I had hoped VR gaming would become. At the same time, the game is actually on par with the other arkham games too.
Got a quest 3S yesterday that came with Arkham shadow and holy hell. My only other VR experience was the original PSVR and the difference in quality is staggering. Of course that's thanks to years of work and improvementss in the VR scene but being able to string together combos and counter perfectly on a dime is mind-blowing.
Fantastic video! Arkham shadow did a ton of great things that felt like notes were taken from half-life Alyx to really up the game for this. Gets me really excited for what the team does next especially if it’s more Batman Arkham and also what comes next with future VR games in general since it’s just been getting better and better the past couple years. 🦇
@@andrebillups4079 VR sickness gets lower the longer one plays. That's a lot of people's experience. E.g. I had it in the beginning on PSVR but pushed trough and quickly minimized it. Now I am completely rid of it. Spiderman would likely wouldn't be a big deal at this point. The tech also plays the part and every new headset will likely get better with limiting the factors that may cause this.
I do love the second spidey vr game - Far From Home VR - where it's open world. They could totally retro fit that to have a combat mechanic with punching and kicking. I've played it for a while and haven't gotten sick. Plus there's "The Spider Lair" project which is basically vr Gary's mod with spiderman swinging and flipping which looks awesome
VR BRO is probably the best vr youtuber he has 65.5k subs but still puts more effort in than other youtubers he littarly bought a batman suit for one video
I have always been one of those people that never got the VR appeal and was kind of a VR hater because my experience like the majority has been seeing videos of VR games. I got a chance to checkout Batman (my first time with VR) and all it took was seconds to convert me to a VR believer and I bought a Quest 3 the same week. Like the feel of playing VR and seeing other play VR aren't even comparable and just doesn't work the same way as showing someone a flatscreen game. I truly believe if we were in an era where retail was still booming and demo units where everywhere showing off these AAA like experiences then VR would be the next big thing rather than the niche product it currently is because you can't simply see VR videos you need to experience it for yourself to truly understand it.
Ya I was also the same , had never tried VR. Then one day my friend brought a quest 2 to my home and i tried it and was actually mindblown. Literally 2 days later , I bought a quest 3s. VR is a lot better than I hoped it will be.
@yakirfrankoveig8094 Reminds me of a scene from higurashi where rena hits a dude with a hatchet and says "nah hes alive i hit him with the back part of the blade"
0:53 I wasn’t gonna say it in the comments I just said out loud, but what about Half-Life Alyx (even though I’ve never played it before as I don’t own a PC that can play VR)
Lone Echo and Boneworks...solid examples of AAA VR title standards, before HLA...nice to see some consistent game design, it seems more and more devs finding that sweet spot of where mechanix can influence the "feel" of a game...thats good game texture...lol
I think Batman Arkane Shadows is definitely in the same league as Half-life Alyx. I’d say Asgards Wrath 2 is right up there as well. VR games are finally becoming really good. Half-life set the standard and it took this long for everyone else to catch up.
Batman Arkham shadow is the best VR game: False Batman Arkham Shadow is *one* of the best VR games: True VR needs many best games to show its evolution, and what makes an experience that someone will love to see in VR. But in immersion class, yeah this is the best. We need more VR games to do cutscenes, avatars, and environments like this that immerse the player into the world. I feel like the only game that does that properly is this game and RE7 VR. Video was for RE7.
Pretty bold claim. I think the VR crowd is so divided in what they want. The ones that want open world freedom dont realize Meta is a mobile platform OS and VR APIs consume massive resources to get the physics, graphics, and options it does have in games like Batman Arkham. I always compare it to someone strapping their PS5 or XBox to their head if they want to really feel the hardware difference. As VR evolves, Meta seems to be targetting glasses and more compact platforms. I think they need to maintain larger for gaming and figure out how to get as much performance out of a large battery as possible with hot swap being more standard for every hour of gameplay. Only then will I think console gamers will truly be happy in VR. As for me tho, the fact that I am physically interacting with things from a first person perspective and get to really swing my fists or shoot things up like light gun games of the past... Is everything to me on top of habing a 200+ inch screen to watch movies or play Xbox games on. VR gaming is definitely taking off. Meta is twking some losses on it ij favor of the long game. I think Quest 3 with mixed reality is the first sign its all paying off and the future is bright
I haven't played it yet, but is the combat as stiff as it looks? Based on this video it seems like you don't get to choose what you do next, but the game decides where you need to punch for you. are the circles just suggestions or do you need to follow the script? and if you do need to do what it says does it feel stiff or do you fall into a groove and stop noticing them? these are genuine questions I'm not saying any of it looks bad I'm just curious how it feels to play
you do have to do the combos in a specific way but other than that the combat is pretty free honestly. you start a fight by punching towards an enemy which will cause you to leap (punch across the room) towards them and you start your combo from there. you can choose to fight whatever enemies you want in whatever order and you can use your gadgets and movesets however you want. if you counter an enemy your view will get switched over to them but from there you can do whatever. choose to combo them or not, fight another enemy, leap over them and use quickfire gel on them, there are a lot of cool combo movesets you can make up on your own.
I always thought vr was gimick, but im defo getting on the VR train with games like this out there, my only concerns is like punching in a dream, u dont feel the hit. how ddoes the game handle that? just a vibration?
just haptics, yes. but its not as immersion breaking/weird as you might think. i dont really think about it when im playing honestly. games like behemoth/saints and sinners handle weapon weight really well
I'm about 80% in. Yes, it's almost as good of an experience as Alyx is. Better in some aspects. Technically inferior of course due to the platform but very impressive for what it has to run on. Also finally a story where BM actually does investigate in general, not only look for clues here and there, though it could be better if interactions were more organic and chosen dialog didn't result in the same thing anyway, also if we could figure things out on our own instead of being explicitly told everything multiple times - same with puzzles... :/ (it's like they gave up on people's IQ here, even with "tips" turned off). If there is a next Arkham in vr on Quest 4 that could be closer to "City" then I'm all in for another HMD. Camouflaj seem to know what they're doing. Gliding through city and using the propeller could be great indeed if we could just push ourselves in a right moment and the force of the push could also determine the hight that we can reach. Diving and gaining hight again could be even better of a feeling. Camouflaj, do it! :)
that's what I'm seeing too, same with the combat I don't like how it seems like the game tells you when and where to punch, I don't want a pop up I just want to react to what the enemy is doing
its not really on rails. yes, the game's objectives are linear and there are no side missions but there is soo much exploration you can do to find secrets and collectibles even in the relatively small map and you can go back to old dungeons. the combat might seem restrictive as well but it really isnt. guided at most.
@@TheFrostyCreeper its arkham combat. its going to be arcadey like that. but trust me its great!! you do have to do the combos in specific patterns but other than that there are a ton of your own movesets you can make up (e.g. redirect > explosive gel, redirect > triple batarang > ground takedown, jumping off other enemies to slam down onto others). its my favorite combat in any vr game
why do you like it so much? i honestly cant find any love for boneworks/bonelab. the overall experience just feels janky and awful to me. and im not trying to be rude btw i wanna know why you like it
@@skeivys just that quest 3 was always in mind as the main platform. the game will always remain an exclusive as its a system seller for quest 3 line headsets and meta wants people to purchase quest headsets in order to play it
@@andrebillups4079I wouldn't say that, the game has better stealth, combat and most importantly story than a lot of VR games. While other games might have an edge in a specific category they're usually lacking in most others. Arkham Shadows on the other hand does pretty much everything to a very high standard.
@@obsidianwarrior5580 it’s boring, too slow paced, the directed combat fighting while cool wears down after awhile. The map environment is amazing, the faithfulness to Arkham world and game design is cool/nostalgic, the voice work is great and sound, and the use of gadgets while adventuring is cool, it feels good to be Batman and replicates that experience well but it is not the best vr game ever.
Love how detailed this game is. I personally am probably never gonna play it since the choreographed hand-holdy combat just isn't my thing, but I'm so damn excited to see more AAA experiences. If they get the opportunity to port this to the Meta PC store, I seriously would be excited to see them flex their graphical chops with this IP.
Theres this vr game that just came to my attention called wanderer, and story wise it looks to be way up there. Ive neen holding off on batman because of the amount of physical fitness it is gonna demand....but calling it the all time best ever vr game has triggered me into impulse buy mr sulu. Kirk out.
i haven’t played it yet, but in all the videos i’ve seen they all say it’s one of the best standalone vr games, but the combat looks like the game does it all for you. like you punch forwards, and you lunge forward like mindless combat. that’s what it looks like to me
@@vrvector not really lol. i mean its definitely not trying to be realistic. you're batman in an arkham game. mostly its just guided in that you have to do combos in a specific way. but other than that there's a ton of freedom and your own combos you can pull off
@@duoduos9221 Good game, many great technical achievements in it, just not yet out there for me by various moments to be The Best VR game. But potential is incredible.
The game is overall good but I dislike how linear the game is, the combat was a bit of a let down and there isn’t much interactivity with environments and no collision with other onscreen characters outside of the dance dance revolution combat. Not being able to jump or use the grapple gun on anything you aren’t meant to is kinda lame. It’s some good progress towards a Batman game but in my opinion we aren’t really there yet.
Yeah they're making progress but vr is still about 20 years away from being what it SHOULD be Vr should have been the quality it is now 20 years ago tbh In fact technology in general is about 20 -25 years behind what it SHOULD be 2025 technology should have been what we had in 2000
Arkham Shadow is the best Quest game, potentially over Asgard's Wrath II. But there are many better games like Half Life-Alex on PC and RE Village, RE 8, GT7, and Metro on the PSVR2.
Its awesome. One of the best but far from the greatest. Its really limited in terms of vr. You cant move objects like you should be able to and the physics is not really great when you can. You can put your hands trough the npc during dialogues. The hookshot will shoot even if you just press A without aiming. Your hands stays down but your hand in game shoot. Its weird. Also its filled with bugs and glitch. I had at least one bug on all of my session with the game. The story is top notch and it is so good that i hope the arkham games never return to flatscreen. But games like half life alyx are better vr games. Half life alyx is still king. But its up there with the great vr games.
I dont think its anywhere near the best for me but I respect anyone who thinks it is. It raises the bar in a lot of ways but for me its so linear it almost betrays what vr affords in games. Not all vr games have to afford loads of freedom but I prefer it.
how far have you gotten into the game? yes, the first gotham sections 1-2 hours into the game are very linear but the game opens up a lot afterwards when you get introduced to the hub. theres plenty of exploration and collectibles to find and you can go back to old dungeons
its by the same dev so yeah its excellent but in no way is it better than arkham shadow imo. iron man is much more arcadey and lacks depth but arkham shadow nails everything it missed. the story, combat, exploration, environments, mechanics, are all done beautifully
@@duoduos9221 the exploration in Arkham shadow and combat are better in Arkham shadow, i know that, its unique, and doesn’t get old, but the environment is in both games equally good, My opinion, and the story is good in the iron man game too, but I can’t say if the story in Arkham shadow is good, because i never watched the movies, and i may have exaggerated when i said way better, both are very good, and both have features, that are better then the other game. My opinion.
the combat feels so disconnected with them being just embelished quick time events, i really really dont like how it shows you where to punch and every attack being half/scripted
I disagree alyx is way more immersive still I loved batman Arkham shadow but the fact the game tells you how you have to attack enemies makes it less immersive for me
I kinda disagree with it being the BEST VR game though. Alyx introduced many and brought so much opportunities to VR, being a part of making it the platform it is today. Sure this was from what I’ve seen really good, it’s just the innovation and ideas it brought weren’t as big as Alyx’s was at its time. Loved to see that this was a good experience though I will try it :D
Alyx was the greatest till now, but arkham shadow has taken the innovations and made a very well written batman arkham game with good combat, music, interactivity.
@duoduos9221 because VR had been around long enough that we should have the best possible experiences. If the best we have isn't the best it could be, VR is nothing but an empty promise.
@@ScizorCraftnot really if you compare it to the timeline of main video game consoles. It took 30 years to get from Metal gear solid to red dead redemption 2. If you look at the VR games from 10 years ago to NOW… night and day difference.
@@peteryeter892 sure, but VR should also benefit from the same improvments that got flat games from metal gear solid to red dead redemption 2. Right now, we don't even have anything as good as red dead redemption 2 in VR, and that is sad to me.
@@ScizorCraft you missed my point. The jump from the South Park vr and the rollercoaster simulators that came with the Cv1 to Arkham Shadow in just 10 years is bigger than any leap that console gaming had. Innovation doesn’t happen in a day. We’re still very much in the early stages of virtual. So yeah we don’t have a 50+ hour insane open world experience like rdr2 but neither did flat screen gaming for 46 years. But we do have a solid 9-12 hour immersive experience with a great story, amazing gameplay, and AAA voice acting and production. If this is what we get in 10 years I have no doubt in another 5-10 we’ll have something even better and closer to what you’re describing.
From what i remember. Devs of arkham shadows said that Quest 3 hardware is capable of doing even more with batman. My guess is that next game if releases on Quest 3, will be more like Arkham City but they will also be able to pull better graphics. It looks like Shadows was made late into Quest 2 era, but was pushed back to quest 3 thus they didn't have time to upgrade graphic and why map is smaller similar to Asylum. And yes, you can sideload batman to quest 2, it plays in lower resolution, framerate sucks and it crashes. ALOT. But then again it isn't even supposed to run on such hardware, so it's possible that they made like 70% of the game to be played on quest 2, but then because of quest 3 release, they could do some minor upgrades to visuals. Don't get me wrong, this is amazing looking game. It just looks so good, but probably could be even better.
slightly wrong. development of arkham shadow did originally start on quest 2 but they never got to framerate on their quest 2 builds. quest 3 was always in mind and it was meant to be a quest 3 exclusive from the beginning. the map's size wasn't due to hardware limitations either. yes ryan payton said that a city size game would be possible on quest 3 but he also said it made more sense from a development and company perspective for their first arkham vr game to be more like arkham asylum than city/origins/knight. the game already pushes quest 3 to its limits. i dont think theres too much headroom left for them. in fact they did add some graphical improvements in v1.1. a lot more enemy shadows now. with a lot of optimization yeah they could improve it a little more but not by that much. i think you're overestimating what visuals can be pulled off on quest 3. in raw power its a lot more powerful than a ps3 or xbox 360 but it also has to deal with double rendering, much higher target fps, much higher target res, etc
If this game is pushing the quest 3 to its Max, then I can walk on water. I am so tired of being all hyped up for a game, and then I play it, and my reaction is "what in the hell am I looking at" this blurry mess of a picture on the quest 3. I use quest game optimizer and guess what, still horrible. The shills got paid real good for this one boys.
@@ericison6032What “boys” are you talking to? I just played the game for the first time approximately 1 hour from me writing this, and it looked phenomenal. I kinda stopped noticing the slightly blurry textures when I wasn’t inspecting every wall and object looking for problems and got into the flow of actually playing the game. If you can’t get over the “OMG, this random object in the corner doesn’t have enough polygons! This game is so ugly!” phase of playing VR, maybe just sell your headset to save yourself the headaches 🙄
@@ericison6032 "The shills got paid real good for this one boys." Have the same vibes as flat earthers claiming all scientists and every teacher is getting paid to spread lies.
@@ericison6032 its a mobile headset. its not going to look like pcvr lmao and nobody is being paid to say it does. yes the default res is a bit low but devs are restricted to level 5 and the rest of the visuals are still fantastic (for a mobile chipset!!!). and it looks just fine with quest games optimizer. i cant really see much aliasing on hd unless i try to look for it. "the shills got paid real good with this one boys" listen to yourself
One of the biggest things for saints and sinners retribution was the gloves. Being able to punch something that won’t fall down after the first punch was something. Yet there weren’t many things you could do except hit the zombie or grab it and then one strike hit it. The Batman puts that into a whole new perspective and makes hands the main way of fighting.
It’s good, but it’s definately not the best VR game of all time. That accolade for me personally has to go to Vertigo 2. Batman Arkham shadow is very buggy. Performance isn’t great, and you need to use Quest games optimiser to get the best looking version of the game.
Where do we start, with the terrible resolution, lack of polygons or the continuous stuttering and frame drops. I can tell you, no patch can fix horrible resolution. They pushed this game to the max on the Quest 3, who pushed this game to the max "the shills" that' who.
Dude think about it
It’s just Arkham asylum all over again they’re just testing what they can do and then boom crazy sequel game like Arkham city
Hope and pray
I can see them doing like “Arkham Vengeance” or something like that
I really hope so
There are shades of brilliance in this game for sure. At times I was in awe looking around, the lighting and shadows were really damn good, but then certain areas like the prison npc’s were lacking. The gameplay was impressive, which is the biggest factor for me. Overall I loved the game, and immediately wanted more. I hope the same team continues to make Batman games into the future.
in asylum and citys case they were already planning on making city, with a easter egg found a couple years ago in asylum showing plans for city, i do hope that they make a 2nd game and hopefully bring it to pcvr along with it.
3:40 I spent a solid 20 minutes in the intro just being fascinated by how the fingers move.
only VR game I've beaten, than immediately started over again. Its excellent, shit its like my second favorite Arkham game now too.
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Using full body is the real VR.. all shooters are half VR just flailing hands :D
What do you mean floating?
Batman does it fairly well but I typically prefer the floating hands, with the hands my mind fills in the blanks meanwhile full body typically gets pretty janky and the legs look weird
9:42 the only sponsored segment I've ever watched that was entertaining, well done!
There IS a good spider-man VR game, but it just has an open mode where you fight some drones. The swinging mechanic is on point though. One of the only videos on my channel.
I completed it yesterday and I can say Batman Arkham shadow is one of the best gaming experiences I have ever had. This is what I had hoped VR gaming would become. At the same time, the game is actually on par with the other arkham games too.
yep! basically vr's arkham asylum
Fully realized player bodies is 100% required for a vr game to feel real
Assassin’s Creed Nexus VR is also full body scale 🎉
@@nickmartin596I don’t really pay attention to the IK in that one, maybe it’s also good.
i prefer just hands over a horrible ik system (green hell for example) but arkham shadow does it really well
Got a quest 3S yesterday that came with Arkham shadow and holy hell. My only other VR experience was the original PSVR and the difference in quality is staggering. Of course that's thanks to years of work and improvementss in the VR scene but being able to string together combos and counter perfectly on a dime is mind-blowing.
4:44 fun fact this is actually the first Robin/ Nightwing Dick Greyson
jason todd wants a word
Fantastic video! Arkham shadow did a ton of great things that felt like notes were taken from half-life Alyx to really up the game for this.
Gets me really excited for what the team does next especially if it’s more Batman Arkham and also what comes next with future VR games in general since it’s just been getting better and better the past couple years. 🦇
A channel dedicated to vr games ?
Instant subscribe
(I don't own a vr)
bro imagine if these devs made a spiderman game I need thatt
They already did though lol
@@rio-ly2ne it would equal a lot of VR sickness
@@andrebillups4079 VR sickness gets lower the longer one plays. That's a lot of people's experience. E.g. I had it in the beginning on PSVR but pushed trough and quickly minimized it. Now I am completely rid of it. Spiderman would likely wouldn't be a big deal at this point. The tech also plays the part and every new headset will likely get better with limiting the factors that may cause this.
I do love the second spidey vr game - Far From Home VR - where it's open world. They could totally retro fit that to have a combat mechanic with punching and kicking. I've played it for a while and haven't gotten sick.
Plus there's "The Spider Lair" project which is basically vr Gary's mod with spiderman swinging and flipping which looks awesome
@@fksllil4068not the same developers tho
I still haven’t redeemed my 3 months of quest+ because this game and vr sim racing have been more than enough to keep me HOOKED
Yeah i havent redeemed that either, what is it?
@ it’s like a gamepass/ps+ service for meta quest games
VR BRO is probably the best vr youtuber he has 65.5k subs but still puts more effort in than other youtubers he littarly bought a batman suit for one video
I have always been one of those people that never got the VR appeal and was kind of a VR hater because my experience like the majority has been seeing videos of VR games. I got a chance to checkout Batman (my first time with VR) and all it took was seconds to convert me to a VR believer and I bought a Quest 3 the same week. Like the feel of playing VR and seeing other play VR aren't even comparable and just doesn't work the same way as showing someone a flatscreen game. I truly believe if we were in an era where retail was still booming and demo units where everywhere showing off these AAA like experiences then VR would be the next big thing rather than the niche product it currently is because you can't simply see VR videos you need to experience it for yourself to truly understand it.
Ya I was also the same , had never tried VR. Then one day my friend brought a quest 2 to my home and i tried it and was actually mindblown. Literally 2 days later , I bought a quest 3s. VR is a lot better than I hoped it will be.
I just ordered a vr, can’t wait to play this game
Great video. Well presented and informative.
Loving the VR world
i always loved the batman doesnt kill he just chucks shuricans at people and they go to sleep
Ahem. Batarangs
@Swolidarity yes i know i said what they essentially are which is shurikans to ilustrate they should have a similair effect
When in boltens office he actually piints out how the batarangs boltan has are sharpened to a point meaning batman are not sharp
@@lindaunderling4637 well you arent knocking someone out with is so you decide dead or head hurts
@yakirfrankoveig8094 Reminds me of a scene from higurashi where rena hits a dude with a hatchet and says "nah hes alive i hit him with the back part of the blade"
It really makes you FEEL like Batman
This and res 4 original vr was my first experience of vr on Christmas day, wow both games blew my mind absolutely brilliant fun🤣
11:27 the original arkham games did the same, the pause is annoying but its more faithfull and nostalgic to the original pause menu
Now we need a Red Hood game in VR
I would love an Arkham origins remake on quest 3, it’d be great fun
I’d prefer a new game
@ I don’t think it’s exclusive, put rocksteady on a full game and camoflaj on the remake
Camouflaj please bless us with another one of these
Great channel and video pacing
The add for the kiwi design got me it reminded me of the ad for ford with lego
That cut to swear too me was awesome!
There was a blade and sorcery mod that was full on an arkham mod. Andvthis is basically what i felt like in my head when playong it
0:47 Oh I missed the theme so much!
Great review! :) Thanks, well done
0:53 I wasn’t gonna say it in the comments I just said out loud, but what about Half-Life Alyx (even though I’ve never played it before as I don’t own a PC that can play VR)
Lone Echo and Boneworks...solid examples of AAA VR title standards, before HLA...nice to see some consistent game design, it seems more and more devs finding that sweet spot of where mechanix can influence the "feel" of a game...thats good game texture...lol
I agree this is PEAK VR (I’m a die hard Arkham fan with over 1000 hours in the Arkham games)
I still think that title goes to either blade and sorcery or bone lab.
not really imo. i love bonelab (not so much blade and sorcery) but batman clears
now all we need is mgsv vr
Is it coming to psvr2?
What game is he playing at 700? With the swords
blade and sorcery. personally i dont like it and find it to be a janky experience but some people do
I think Batman Arkane Shadows is definitely in the same league as Half-life Alyx. I’d say Asgards Wrath 2 is right up there as well. VR games are finally becoming really good. Half-life set the standard and it took this long for everyone else to catch up.
Batman Arkham shadow is the best VR game: False
Batman Arkham Shadow is *one* of the best VR games: True
VR needs many best games to show its evolution, and what makes an experience that someone will love to see in VR.
But in immersion class, yeah this is the best. We need more VR games to do cutscenes, avatars, and environments like this that immerse the player into the world. I feel like the only game that does that properly is this game and RE7 VR. Video was for RE7.
Pretty bold claim. I think the VR crowd is so divided in what they want. The ones that want open world freedom dont realize Meta is a mobile platform OS and VR APIs consume massive resources to get the physics, graphics, and options it does have in games like Batman Arkham. I always compare it to someone strapping their PS5 or XBox to their head if they want to really feel the hardware difference. As VR evolves, Meta seems to be targetting glasses and more compact platforms. I think they need to maintain larger for gaming and figure out how to get as much performance out of a large battery as possible with hot swap being more standard for every hour of gameplay. Only then will I think console gamers will truly be happy in VR. As for me tho, the fact that I am physically interacting with things from a first person perspective and get to really swing my fists or shoot things up like light gun games of the past... Is everything to me on top of habing a 200+ inch screen to watch movies or play Xbox games on. VR gaming is definitely taking off. Meta is twking some losses on it ij favor of the long game. I think Quest 3 with mixed reality is the first sign its all paying off and the future is bright
@@Flowmada Very true.
Amen to all of that.
It's really fun, definitely top 3 of all time
Its CRAZY how people reacted negatively when this gale was announced "oooh another vr game who cares?" And here we are
I haven't played it yet, but is the combat as stiff as it looks? Based on this video it seems like you don't get to choose what you do next, but the game decides where you need to punch for you. are the circles just suggestions or do you need to follow the script? and if you do need to do what it says does it feel stiff or do you fall into a groove and stop noticing them? these are genuine questions I'm not saying any of it looks bad I'm just curious how it feels to play
you do have to do the combos in a specific way but other than that the combat is pretty free honestly. you start a fight by punching towards an enemy which will cause you to leap (punch across the room) towards them and you start your combo from there. you can choose to fight whatever enemies you want in whatever order and you can use your gadgets and movesets however you want. if you counter an enemy your view will get switched over to them but from there you can do whatever. choose to combo them or not, fight another enemy, leap over them and use quickfire gel on them, there are a lot of cool combo movesets you can make up on your own.
I always thought vr was gimick, but im defo getting on the VR train with games like this out there, my only concerns is like punching in a dream, u dont feel the hit. how ddoes the game handle that? just a vibration?
just haptics, yes. but its not as immersion breaking/weird as you might think. i dont really think about it when im playing honestly. games like behemoth/saints and sinners handle weapon weight really well
@@duoduos9221 sounds good to me, look forward to giving this a go, love the arkham games
I'm about 80% in. Yes, it's almost as good of an experience as Alyx is. Better in some aspects. Technically inferior of course due to the platform but very impressive for what it has to run on. Also finally a story where BM actually does investigate in general, not only look for clues here and there, though it could be better if interactions were more organic and chosen dialog didn't result in the same thing anyway, also if we could figure things out on our own instead of being explicitly told everything multiple times - same with puzzles... :/ (it's like they gave up on people's IQ here, even with "tips" turned off). If there is a next Arkham in vr on Quest 4 that could be closer to "City" then I'm all in for another HMD. Camouflaj seem to know what they're doing. Gliding through city and using the propeller could be great indeed if we could just push ourselves in a right moment and the force of the push could also determine the hight that we can reach. Diving and gaining hight again could be even better of a feeling. Camouflaj, do it! :)
Peak VR. Peak gaming in general
I fully agree - Batman Arkham Shadow is definitely a better VR game than Half-Life Alyx :)
You are right
but not a better game. no arkham game is better than a half life game.
I really want the game but it’s not on steam vr and I only got a quest 2. So I’ll have to keep dreaming till then
I think you might've just convinced me to buy a Quest 3S 😆
I really like the story
The voice actor for Batman does an admirable job but it's so jarring not hearing Kevin Conroy's voice in an Arkham game.
Im too spoiled by open world games, like into the radius. The super "on rails" gameplay seems so restrictive. I hate having my hands held down a path.
that's what I'm seeing too, same with the combat I don't like how it seems like the game tells you when and where to punch, I don't want a pop up I just want to react to what the enemy is doing
its not really on rails. yes, the game's objectives are linear and there are no side missions but there is soo much exploration you can do to find secrets and collectibles even in the relatively small map and you can go back to old dungeons. the combat might seem restrictive as well but it really isnt. guided at most.
@@TheFrostyCreeper its arkham combat. its going to be arcadey like that. but trust me its great!! you do have to do the combos in specific patterns but other than that there are a ton of your own movesets you can make up (e.g. redirect > explosive gel, redirect > triple batarang > ground takedown, jumping off other enemies to slam down onto others). its my favorite combat in any vr game
CAN I PLAY IT WHILE LAYING DOWN?
Sitting down yes, laying no.
boneworks is still my number one. can't see it being topped by anyone other than SLZ
why do you like it so much? i honestly cant find any love for boneworks/bonelab. the overall experience just feels janky and awful to me. and im not trying to be rude btw i wanna know why you like it
eta pcvr or psvr release?
never
2025
@@skeivys its built specifically to be a quest exclusive and the devs have stated that its never moving to other platforms
@@duoduos9221what feature of the game is made exclusively for the quest vr?
@@skeivys just that quest 3 was always in mind as the main platform. the game will always remain an exclusive as its a system seller for quest 3 line headsets and meta wants people to purchase quest headsets in order to play it
I feel like Batman but also tired, so Batman.
be the man
Best of ALL TIME is a bit of a stretch in my opinion so I’m gonna see this when it premiers and see if you can prove me wrong.
@@omarmerchant4743 I think he proved you wrong 🥴
It’s over loved because it’s Batman
@@andrebillups4079I wouldn't say that, the game has better stealth, combat and most importantly story than a lot of VR games. While other games might have an edge in a specific category they're usually lacking in most others. Arkham Shadows on the other hand does pretty much everything to a very high standard.
I'd say only Half Life Alyx has compared as an experience so far
@@obsidianwarrior5580 it’s boring, too slow paced, the directed combat fighting while cool wears down after awhile. The map environment is amazing, the faithfulness to Arkham world and game design is cool/nostalgic, the voice work is great and sound, and the use of gadgets while adventuring is cool, it feels good to be Batman and replicates that experience well but it is not the best vr game ever.
Love how detailed this game is. I personally am probably never gonna play it since the choreographed hand-holdy combat just isn't my thing, but I'm so damn excited to see more AAA experiences.
If they get the opportunity to port this to the Meta PC store, I seriously would be excited to see them flex their graphical chops with this IP.
Yeah until behemoth comes out, I can’t wait, 3 days
Behemoth doesnt look as fun tbh
you remind me of this one youtuber called thrill seeker
Theres this vr game that just came to my attention called wanderer, and story wise it looks to be way up there.
Ive neen holding off on batman because of the amount of physical fitness it is gonna demand....but calling it the all time best ever vr game has triggered me into impulse buy mr sulu.
Kirk out.
2:32
Eh, using AI in general is very iffy, using it for sponsored content even more :/
lol shut up
Answer to why is is becauae someone made it to be.
i haven’t played it yet, but in all the videos i’ve seen they all say it’s one of the best standalone vr games, but the combat looks like the game does it all for you. like you punch forwards, and you lunge forward like mindless combat. that’s what it looks like to me
@@vrvector not really lol. i mean its definitely not trying to be realistic. you're batman in an arkham game. mostly its just guided in that you have to do combos in a specific way. but other than that there's a ton of freedom and your own combos you can pull off
@ it’s really is.😁
@@vrvector okay you do your thing
@@duoduos9221 Good game, many great technical achievements in it, just not yet out there for me by various moments to be The Best VR game. But potential is incredible.
@@vrvector ? i agree with you but what does that have to do with the conversatipn prior lol
Best of all time is no mans sky vr.
for me, the best game is either bonelab or blade and sorcery.
The game is overall good but I dislike how linear the game is, the combat was a bit of a let down and there isn’t much interactivity with environments and no collision with other onscreen characters outside of the dance dance revolution combat. Not being able to jump or use the grapple gun on anything you aren’t meant to is kinda lame. It’s some good progress towards a Batman game but in my opinion we aren’t really there yet.
Yeah they're making progress but vr is still about 20 years away from being what it SHOULD be
Vr should have been the quality it is now 20 years ago tbh
In fact technology in general is about 20 -25 years behind what it SHOULD be
2025 technology should have been what we had in 2000
So I'm sorry, if you've already made a video about it or not. But regarding a VR game about Spider-Man, I can recommend “Spider-Lair”.
Arkham Shadow is the best Quest game, potentially over Asgard's Wrath II. But there are many better games like Half Life-Alex on PC and RE Village, RE 8, GT7, and Metro on the PSVR2.
Its awesome. One of the best but far from the greatest. Its really limited in terms of vr. You cant move objects like you should be able to and the physics is not really great when you can. You can put your hands trough the npc during dialogues. The hookshot will shoot even if you just press A without aiming. Your hands stays down but your hand in game shoot. Its weird. Also its filled with bugs and glitch. I had at least one bug on all of my session with the game. The story is top notch and it is so good that i hope the arkham games never return to flatscreen. But games like half life alyx are better vr games. Half life alyx is still king. But its up there with the great vr games.
I dont think its anywhere near the best for me but I respect anyone who thinks it is. It raises the bar in a lot of ways but for me its so linear it almost betrays what vr affords in games. Not all vr games have to afford loads of freedom but I prefer it.
how far have you gotten into the game? yes, the first gotham sections 1-2 hours into the game are very linear but the game opens up a lot afterwards when you get introduced to the hub. theres plenty of exploration and collectibles to find and you can go back to old dungeons
@@natvrgal it doesn’t even measure up to The Walking Dead Saints and Sinners but it is very good
Oh man, if the sequel is akin to Arkham City but for VR, that would be outstanding.
Could you imagine arkham city in vr
why I can't find it on steam?
Because it's not on steam sorry it's a quest 3 exclusive sucks I know
Pls make a video about the iron man vr game, its such a good game, and in my opinion, its way better then the batman vr game.
Iron man vr starts good, then it kind of becomes less interresting. But yeah the first 2 hours of ironman are so good, the plane part is incredible .
its by the same dev so yeah its excellent but in no way is it better than arkham shadow imo. iron man is much more arcadey and lacks depth but arkham shadow nails everything it missed. the story, combat, exploration, environments, mechanics, are all done beautifully
@@duoduos9221 the exploration in Arkham shadow and combat are better in Arkham shadow, i know that, its unique, and doesn’t get old, but the environment is in both games equally good, My opinion, and the story is good in the iron man game too, but I can’t say if the story in Arkham shadow is good, because i never watched the movies, and i may have exaggerated when i said way better, both are very good, and both have features, that are better then the other game. My opinion.
the combat feels so disconnected with them being just embelished quick time events, i really really dont like how it shows you where to punch and every attack being half/scripted
its much better than it looks
Can’t Batman use plastic bullets instead of batarang, sure batarang is iconic but wouldn’t be more logical if he use rubber bullets ?
It isn't just killing Batman hates, he doesn't like guns either, he's still traumatised about one being used to kill his parents.
I disagree alyx is way more immersive still I loved batman Arkham shadow but the fact the game tells you how you have to attack enemies makes it less immersive for me
its just the combo moves. thats it really. other than that theres a lot of freedom. its a perfect adaptation of the arkham console combat to vr
I kinda disagree with it being the BEST VR game though. Alyx introduced many and brought so much opportunities to VR, being a part of making it the platform it is today. Sure this was from what I’ve seen really good, it’s just the innovation and ideas it brought weren’t as big as Alyx’s was at its time. Loved to see that this was a good experience though I will try it :D
I think Alyx was the great innovation. Then, I think Batman Arkham Shadow was the great refinement.
Alyx was the greatest till now, but arkham shadow has taken the innovations and made a very well written batman arkham game with good combat, music, interactivity.
Some of that sounds good, but it's very sad that the best VR has right now is a "foundation" for something better.
how is that sad?
@duoduos9221 because VR had been around long enough that we should have the best possible experiences. If the best we have isn't the best it could be, VR is nothing but an empty promise.
@@ScizorCraftnot really if you compare it to the timeline of main video game consoles. It took 30 years to get from Metal gear solid to red dead redemption 2. If you look at the VR games from 10 years ago to NOW… night and day difference.
@@peteryeter892 sure, but VR should also benefit from the same improvments that got flat games from metal gear solid to red dead redemption 2. Right now, we don't even have anything as good as red dead redemption 2 in VR, and that is sad to me.
@@ScizorCraft you missed my point. The jump from the South Park vr and the rollercoaster simulators that came with the Cv1 to Arkham Shadow in just 10 years is bigger than any leap that console gaming had. Innovation doesn’t happen in a day. We’re still very much in the early stages of virtual. So yeah we don’t have a 50+ hour insane open world experience like rdr2 but neither did flat screen gaming for 46 years. But we do have a solid 9-12 hour immersive experience with a great story, amazing gameplay, and AAA voice acting and production. If this is what we get in 10 years I have no doubt in another 5-10 we’ll have something even better and closer to what you’re describing.
From what i remember. Devs of arkham shadows said that Quest 3 hardware is capable of doing even more with batman.
My guess is that next game if releases on Quest 3, will be more like Arkham City but they will also be able to pull better graphics.
It looks like Shadows was made late into Quest 2 era, but was pushed back to quest 3 thus they didn't have time to upgrade graphic and why map is smaller similar to Asylum. And yes, you can sideload batman to quest 2, it plays in lower resolution, framerate sucks and it crashes. ALOT. But then again it isn't even supposed to run on such hardware, so it's possible that they made like 70% of the game to be played on quest 2, but then because of quest 3 release, they could do some minor upgrades to visuals.
Don't get me wrong, this is amazing looking game. It just looks so good, but probably could be even better.
slightly wrong. development of arkham shadow did originally start on quest 2 but they never got to framerate on their quest 2 builds. quest 3 was always in mind and it was meant to be a quest 3 exclusive from the beginning. the map's size wasn't due to hardware limitations either. yes ryan payton said that a city size game would be possible on quest 3 but he also said it made more sense from a development and company perspective for their first arkham vr game to be more like arkham asylum than city/origins/knight.
the game already pushes quest 3 to its limits. i dont think theres too much headroom left for them. in fact they did add some graphical improvements in v1.1. a lot more enemy shadows now. with a lot of optimization yeah they could improve it a little more but not by that much. i think you're overestimating what visuals can be pulled off on quest 3. in raw power its a lot more powerful than a ps3 or xbox 360 but it also has to deal with double rendering, much higher target fps, much higher target res, etc
If this game is pushing the quest 3 to its Max, then I can walk on water. I am so tired of being all hyped up for a game, and then I play it, and my reaction is "what in the hell am I looking at" this blurry mess of a picture on the quest 3. I use quest game optimizer and guess what, still horrible. The shills got paid real good for this one boys.
@@ericison6032What “boys” are you talking to? I just played the game for the first time approximately 1 hour from me writing this, and it looked phenomenal.
I kinda stopped noticing the slightly blurry textures when I wasn’t inspecting every wall and object looking for problems and got into the flow of actually playing the game. If you can’t get over the “OMG, this random object in the corner doesn’t have enough polygons! This game is so ugly!” phase of playing VR, maybe just sell your headset to save yourself the headaches 🙄
@@ericison6032
"The shills got paid real good for this one boys."
Have the same vibes as flat earthers claiming all scientists and every teacher is getting paid to spread lies.
@@ericison6032 its a mobile headset. its not going to look like pcvr lmao and nobody is being paid to say it does. yes the default res is a bit low but devs are restricted to level 5 and the rest of the visuals are still fantastic (for a mobile chipset!!!). and it looks just fine with quest games optimizer. i cant really see much aliasing on hd unless i try to look for it. "the shills got paid real good with this one boys" listen to yourself
It's the fighting, I hate it
Well, it’s the same as other Arkham games so if you didn’t like other Arkham games, you’re obviously not gonna like this.
@Foxmonster78I've never played any other Arkham game in.VR. . Im pretty sure I pressed X and 🔺on the playstation to fight
@ it’s the only Arkham game in vr, it’s the same idea mechanics and the movement is just as if ur actually punching.
@Foxmonster78 it's the second VR Arkham game
@ ye but the first one wasn’t rly a full game, it was a 40 minute demo
WHERE IS SHE????????????? RACHEL
One of the biggest things for saints and sinners retribution was the gloves. Being able to punch something that won’t fall down after the first punch was something. Yet there weren’t many things you could do except hit the zombie or grab it and then one strike hit it. The Batman puts that into a whole new perspective and makes hands the main way of fighting.
It’s good, but it’s definately not the best VR game of all time. That accolade for me personally has to go to Vertigo 2. Batman Arkham shadow is very buggy. Performance isn’t great, and you need to use Quest games optimiser to get the best looking version of the game.
Metro awakening is probably slightly better
metro awakening is kind of an odd duck. very polarizing. i like it imo but arkham shadow is way better
boneworks is still the best vr game to ever be made
I just got a quest 3s and the game is so fun and i dont really like batman
I don’t care who the IRS sends, I am not buying a Quest 3
IRS? You could have used meta
Relax
No
The best game is bonelab
Where do we start, with the terrible resolution, lack of polygons or the continuous stuttering and frame drops. I can tell you, no patch can fix horrible resolution. They pushed this game to the max on the Quest 3, who pushed this game to the max "the shills" that' who.
@@ericison6032 just install Quest Games Optimizer if resolution matters that much to you. It definitely helps me
Bone lab or boneworks or blade and sorcery is probably the best game
i cant agree. all super janky. b&s's combat besides the spells and everything is just terrible imo especially with the ai.
Recently picked up a Meta Quest 3 and got this with it. Honestly, this game fucks hard.
Would it really still be the best game… if you never had a childhood dream of being Batman?
I mean every guy has that dream so what is your point lol?😂
Nor for me but I Buy it To my son
I need quest 3, please donate
It’s not as expensive anymore just save up as much as you can