Why the Highest Payroll Teams in the NBA Are Failing
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They are old. Duncan took pay cuts later in his career to help the team. Nowitzki did the same
That's something I can't understand. Isn't a person pretty much set in life after they've earned ten million or so? Seems like more players would be willing to take a cut to get more talent, yet they all seem to want money more than rings.
He did but the front office didn’t do anything significant. Team near got out the first round when Dirk started taking pay cuts
@@benjaminsorensen9334 Players are not longer players, but a brand, taking a paycut means the brand is not worth as much.
@@benjaminsorensen9334 Yep. Especially Labron. Dude is a billionaire from his shoe deals, endorsements and investments but he still wants $50M per year and play LeGM along the way.
And you expecting these kids to follow them? they don't care about their teams and even winning the game lol. Look at what pg13 said in the interview.
Super teams can still work, But I swear GMs are dumber today then 10 years ago. You cant build a team with 3 players who all do the same things like the suns and the clippers!
Yeah gotta get players that compliment each others and have time to develop chemistry
Players have too much power it’s like their friends teaming up look what kd and friends did the the nets luckily the nets probably came out on top of some of those trades but holy shit for those 3 or whatever years being a nets fan would be ass
Then how do you explain Luka and Kyrie? They are both point guards. Strangely it worked.
@@walkrwalkr3622 Pretty sure when people say super teams they are talking about 3 stars. Luka and Ky work because they can swap between whose 1 and whose 2. Typically it's Luka running the offense in the first half and then reversed in the second half. If they did add another star to the mix, he would have to be a 4 or 5 that would primarily be for 3 and D.
@@johnnyd.1925 and they pass the ball. I feel like Luka isn’t as ball dominant as Kyrie which also helps. 2 max contracts vs 3 max contracts leaves a lot of money to get better role players too
These players are being paid all this money and they not even playing well, i won't lie this present basketball is so depressing
Everything seems like its just acting
Antisemitic stop the blasphemy against my people. Go talk down on white content like go gaza content.
Blame those billionaires who are wasting their money and milking us law abiding citizens.
@biggreens7332 you are so correct it's literally like a script being played out in real time.
@@seandickson9206 sad part is I love basketball and I think there getting paid to much and some players really don't have to try once that check is there's
Love the new CBA. Well built and balanced teams are so much more fun to watch and follow than star heavy superteams that are poorly built
It more likely they are old than cba
Ya. I mean Boston and Denver have high payrolls BUT they're both younger than the others.
Lol that too
@@davidbrown4540true but Jrue on the last year of his contract probably won’t get close to wat he’s making now next year and in my opinion Denver over paid mpj he should be closer to Arron Gordon than Jamal Murray
Well said. Old NBA is done. If they want a championship, they need to hitch a ride like Gary Payton did with the Heat. The young ones got this and it’s going to be fun. New Knicks/Pacers rivalry? I hope so.
Suns are toast. What a dumpster fire of a roster.
Phoenix Buns *
Nonsense a defender away
@@xavierb9061 crazy delete your account and start fresh
Beal trade was MENTAL! 😂 Toxic asset, and they sought it out
@@halfdayofthejackal9372 Yup that beal trade is a complete utterly bullshit! kd and book may have a deeper run if they bringing back some guys like mikal and payne.
Just got to accept the Face of the NBA has changed....Shai Luka Brunson Banchero Anthony Edwards ...this is now the NBA
GMs suck at their jobs and then when the team busts, everyone shrugs their shoulders "they had to trade for superstars, they didn't have a choice".
Well if they don't want the blame, they sure as hell don't get the credit.
Cause role players and team chemistry are important also the fit is important
Minor nitpick - Grayson Allen signed a 4 year 70 million dollar contract before the playoffs, so Nas Little is definitely not the Suns next highest paid player.
He talked about this seasons roster...
It's a great video, but this is pretty dense information, and it would have been easier to follow (for me, at least) with some data on the screen.
Keep making great videos!
I tend to glaze over when the details of the CBA come up but you managed to keep me engaged. Some of these rules are pretty ingenious. Thanks for the clear explanations.
As a european, sometimes it is strange looking at a NBA roster. Here we build teams for heavy rotations. Usually teams have 12 strong players that devide the minutes between them, and in any game, any player can be the difference maker. Most players don't play 30 minutes out of 40.
NBA is more focused in acquiring stars. I understand that is very good for selling jerseys, but then you have 3 starts playing with below average players. The Bulls are paying less then 10M for Alex Caruso. I would like to see a team building a roster with 12-13 Alex Caruso type players. I think it would be a fun experiment.
Lol as if those "strong" players or even close to the same level As an nba starter
Yeah, I honestly think you’re going to see a shift though to more balanced rosters with heavy rotations
@@BC21beatsthe teams are more balanced nevertheless
Most of them aren't. But that is not what I am discussing. I am saying that they don't build a team around stars, but rather a heavy rotation of players. I think the league as enough quality players for teams to be build like that, instead of stars. From the top-8 spending teams in the NBA, 6 are already out of the playoffs. It is not working to build teams like that.
@@And.One.Hoops1 clippers, nets, Lakers, 76ers, suns will keep on trying to take shorcuts
It all came crashing down when teams stopped hoarding players and started to actually play basketball
Building through the draft and allowing players to evolve their personal game while also building team chemistry without the WIN NOW mindset will be the new wave
grayson allen signed a 17.5 per contract which makes the salary cap even worse
Those analytics guys focused on offense. They figured defense from a top team wasn’t that different from a bottom team. I’m the 90s you didn’t get one the floor if you couldn’t play defense. The ability to score certain ways however made a difference.
So what did players do? They focused on what the geniuses were telling everyone and getting paid.
Now, the reserve has happened. Everyone is a shooter in today’s league but the teams that play excellent defense are shining.
Not being able to trade picks 7 years out is saving teams from themselves. Lol.
Ageing superstars are a poison chalice, especially on high salaries.
It's not the CBA per se -- it's that the top salaries are just disproportionate to the salary cap. Yes, I personally think superstars who ought to win should forego $10 million a year (they'll still make plenty) to guarantee that their supporting cast will be strong, but that's a separate issue. The league has made it so that superstars, on average, are detrimental to roster health. It's a little stupid. BUT, also, keep in mind that a lot of GMs want to make money more than they want to win, and even having a fragile superstar who won't get you into the playoffs might sell more tickets over the season than a no-superstar team that makes it to the second round.
Time for another episode of and one hoops economics class
The sixers had homecourt advantage as the 7th seed in the East?
Did I say that? My bad
@And.One.Hoops1 Any other season they most likely would have had homecourt in the first round. But..Joel… injuries
@And.One.Hoops1 are they even a Top 10 payroll team in the NBA?
FYI the suns can trade their 2031 pick. According to bobby marks that trade rule kicks in at the end of the 24/25 season. The league wanted to give teams sometime to adjust to it
They are trying to buy a championship instead of competing for one.
They need some Free Agent Rules so Small Markets can compete. Oh yeah the NBA Players hate competition. And Silver and Stern Love the Lakers
So why did Stern veto the Chris Paul trade when he was 26 and one of the best guards in the league?
Minnesota, OKC, Cleveland, Orlando and Indiana are some of the best teams in the league. GMs need to draft and develop better and stop “Star Chasing”. Most stars don’t want to go to small markets in free agency. But, if you draft right…. You could be the Warriors or Bucks and WIN it all
Boston and Denver are great because they have home grown drafted and developed talent and have benefited from other dumb teams trying to chase old stars….ie Brooklyn,Phoenix, and the Clippers
@@Ahmad_Noblebecause the NBA owned the NOLA Hornets and we’re trying to sell the team.
In other words, don't spend like drunken sailors, develop your own talent, and you should be just fine.
Just what the OKC have done. They giving up their superstars which didn't work back then and wait until they become a fully develop team :)
@@OldLadyGamersince1990sga and chet anyone 🤷
Insane amount of money man😂
I’ll tell you why. It’s because the NBA is the only league where they let the players play the role of GM. Look at Kawhi for instance. He tells the Clippers who he wants on the team, who to trade, etc. Lebron, KD, they all do it. Players recruit one another in the offseason and tell their respective teams who to sign and who to trade for. The NBA is notorious for it. It has gotten out of hand.
Those teams are "failing" because they didn't have good coaches or coaches that fit the teams. I have no idea why Phoenix hired Frank Vogel when he hasn't shown that he can coach a team well on offense. Also why are teams only looking at coaches under contract or coaches that were just fired? Why don't they try to get coaches like Mark Jackson, Mike Woodson, Kenny Atkinson or even Mike D'Antoni...who would likely work in Phoenix with 3 stars who can score. Mark Jackson would be a better option though because of D'Antoni's lack of defense. The Lakers could go for Mark Jackson or Mike Woodson too.
Also why aren't these teams getting centers who can defend or finish at the rim or point guards that can get players the ball in their sweet spots and draw defenders as they cut to the rim then kick the ball out? That's what the Timberwolves and the Knicks realized.
The Suns and the Lakers can go out and get those types of players whether in the G League, overseas, out of teams' rotations or coming off the bench. If they want guys in the league, I would tell Phoenix to get 2 of these guys: Quentin Grimes, Caris LeVert, Andre Drummond, Immanuel Quickley, Jericho Sims, Precious Achiwua or Jonas Valanciunas.
The Lakers should get 2 of these guys: Jericho Sims, Quentin Grimes, Caris LeVert, Immanuel Quickley, Kelly Oubre Jr., Bobby Portis, Brook Lopez, Collin Sexton, Keldon Johnson, Precious Achiwua, JaVale McGee or Marcus Smart.
These 2 teams don't need much to improve. Both of them also need more shooters. They can move role players to get them. If Gabe Vincent is still good after his last injury, maybe he can do better on the Lakers next season though.
What you said about the Suns going into next season is incorrect. They signed Grayson Allen to an extension so he will be making close to 17 million next season. It isn't just Nurkic making a good chunk of change after the big three.
Rushing to,Team USA! Weak
They don’t have patience in developing players who are drafted so they trade for old heads who end up being trash year after year.
Once these clowns who entered the league around 2008-2012 leave the game has a brighter future
These punks chose to join the best rather than try and be and beat the best
Great call, I agree 100 percent
Tbh, the playoffs are better now that these clowns are eliminated. Now, we get young teams that have killer mentalities instead of the divas of the 2010s.
denver not getting out round 2, celtics not beating knicks in ecf
Sixers did not have home court advantage …
Sixers would be on this list if they offer Paul George something close to the max .
How does a team not have at least one 1st Rounder every other year? Didn’t the Stepien Rule resolve that?
Pick swaps
It's a win for everybody besides middle class players and some "star" players.
We as viewers will get to see more competitive games and more so owners will see more profit because the game will be more entertaining, meaning more interest.
Players tho... they get the "short end" of the stick (still getting paid millions 🙄) because some players will believe they're worth more than what they're precieved and some may cause problems for teams, making team more reluctant to pay more money to players.
On paper it is a good solution to teams buying super teams. Will have to wait on the execution
I think you’re being unfair to the GSW. They paid their stars who are home-grown, have given them so much success, and are loyal. They built their team the right way instead of simply hunting for already-superstar players (the Durant thing was in the past, and you’re referring to the present time period so that doesn’t count).
TEAMS ARE PAYING THESE OVERRATED PLAYERS WAY TOO MUCH MONEY
THE NBA IS TERRIBLE RIGHT NOW
CROOKED REFS
EVERYTHING ABOUT LEFLOP THE GAME SUCKS 😢
That push back first round pick is because the warriors 😂 they got talent in the draft because they was injured and had a bad season but they was already salary heavy it wasn't fair makes since
The reason all these big teams are failing because you need more than just one or two players three players to win you need a team you can have the ball of your contest going to three or three players and then span or cross board and win for a long-term This is where the LeBron James style doing things doesn’t work in a long term. You need to have a core of five or six guys seven guys eight guys. To build around
You also need LEADERSHIP.
Not all stars are created equal. We all work with people who are talented, but Suck as people.
Imagine being in your 20s, you make more than your coach, and everyone has been kissing your @$$ since you were 12?
You made 1 mistake, from what I could tell - the Sixers did not have home court advantage against the Knicks, it was a 2-7 matchup.
Yeah, I slipped up on that one
@@And.One.Hoops1 great video! I was nit-picking, but it was a great vid
PLAYERS WANT TO GET PAID FIRST AND IF THEY CAN WIN A RING, FINE.
USE TO BE THE RING, PAY CAME AFTERWARDS.
THERE'S NO NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS OR OLD GREEN BAY PACKERS, IN BASKETBALL 😩
I don’t know about those other teams but the Warriors are failing cause the rest of the league copied their style.
Players get paid way too much. 220 mil and they always injured lmao
NBA exploit players so what when tables turn. Without us there will be nothing.
The owners are too greedy. Paying the players less wouldn’t REDUCE the cost of tickets, jerseys, or subscriptions.
The owners would just pocket more money. Do we know how much they make? Too many owners/GMs run their teams poorly and don’t even try to compete…. They put out a pathetic rosters and pocket hundreds of millions every year
Did someone not take economics in school? Athletes are always dealing with some nagging health issue, part of their pay is to play when hurt, not injured
If you spend $150 million in a hard cap league, how can you spend anywhere else?
You can’t
@@And.One.Hoops1 I just hope the league makes a course correction.
It's sort of weird that the other owners were so jealous of LA, Golden State, Boston, and others that they put even more penalties into the CBA for having star level talent🤦♂️. I guess they really are trying to be like the NFL and have more parody and less Dynasties (we'll just ignore Kansas City in that argument)
I honestly think it’s better that way since if a dynasty does ever come back around, it’s that much more impactful.
There was allways at least one dynasty in the NFL... before and after the cap rules. The Patriots were a dynasty for 20 years throughout the 2000's and 2010's, now the Chiefs are in the 2020's. Other teams won 1 or 2 championships over that timespan, but the Patriots still dominated overall, the same way the Chiefs do now. And I dont get why thats bad. It has nothing to do with jealousy, but with fairness. I wanna see a OKC dynasty where they win 3 titles in 5 years, or an Orlando dynasty. Just to name the 2 very young PO teams in both conferences. How about another Spurs dynasty around a generational big? Or a Luka/Dallas dynasty?
Dynasties will and can still happen, the teams will just be built differently. Over the draft and with more consistency. 2010-14 Heat will not happen anymore, or 2008 Celtics. And thats a good thing. And (hopefully) older stars will understand one thing. If they want to compete late in their careers... they have to take paycuts. Make your money (while trying to win) in your 20's, take lesser and lesser money in your 30's to compete late in your career. Why does 39 years old Lebron still need a 50 Mio contract? Dude is worth 1.2 billion right now! Him on a 20 mio contract and the Lakers would have way better chances. Or Durant? Signed a Max contract at 34... sign a 50/2 deal and either the Nets, or now the Suns, would be in WAY better positions building around hm!
Arent the wolves still in it?
They aren’t one of the highest paying teams in the league. They will be next year though when ANT new contract kicks in
I can't believe the Lakers raised a banner for their in-season tournament "title."
Because they have over payed, spoiled, egotistical, babies who have no real passion for the game of basketball.
#SadButTrue
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Anti-semitic that shit not real
“Sword of Omens, give me sight behind sight.” -Lion-O
It’s just as relevant
Denver eliminated. Boston won’t win title.
Theae teams are failing for the same reason team USA keeps failing. They think you can stack a team with stars and just win. But they ignore the fact that it's role players who need to fit in and do the dirty work that push you over the edge. All these teams think they need 3-4 first that can score 30 a night, when in reality they need most of their team to be guys who dive on the floor or chase down the fastbreak or get the hard rebound in the critical moment. None of these high paid scoring machines do any of that. They all just want to jack up 3s all game and score meaningless points in blowout games.
Just show u these billionaires and millionaires failed to predict future performance. Failures all of them. Had they hired me or someone with the skills we would have did a Process Capability Index analysis and got the results and known this would happen well before it happened and prevented it. That’s why you have Process Capability Index. To predict future performance through validation previous results. Each team failed, Warriors, Lakers and Suns. That’s not a coincidence. Had I been the owner of the Warriors Joe Lacob, Peter Gruber, Mike Dunleavy Jr and Steve Kerr would all be terminated. When shit falls down hill it started at the top first. After that players would be pulled in 1x1 to discuss expectations moving forward and that for the time being the Offensive coach would be the interim coach for now. I would walk into the manager quarters and verify Joe, Peter, Steve and Mike were packing up. After they out the building structure, leadership and authority is in the building. Steph u at point, Klay you at the 2, Draymond 4, Wiggs 3 and I’m hiring a true big in a week. Trades coming soon fyi. But before real change can come I need those 4 jokers out of the building. Weak men can tear a house down not for reacting but failure to act.
You end up with too many cheifs.
Wow. Another talking head channel. I mean do you all have meetings and discuss what y'all can and cannot discuss in these videos. Talk about talking just to hear your own voice. Payroll has nothing to do with the lack of talent in the league right now. I find it funny that just because certain players only have like one or two rings their salary goes all the way up while their skills and talent go all the way done. It just makes zero sense that salary or the current CBA is even used as a talking point when it's more of an excuse. There is more to this than fucking money 🤦
Yeah, you clearly didn’t listen or understand the jist of the video. Money is NOT the problem, it’s the structure of the CBA that doesn’t allow for teams to build out well rounded rosters
When you said there's a lack of talent in the league that invalidated everything else you said
Clown The nuggets and Celtics most likely won’t make it to finals you dudes either make old videos or don’t watch nba just highlights like Denver looks depleted and the only real help is refs and Celtics ? 🤦 I rather not see them in finals they lose against any & every team no matter what they record is or who they got 😂