#1 gotta be when the ref mistakenly thought Chael Sonnen tapped out against Silva, when he was clearly just giving him a congratulatory pat. Still undefeated.
Agreed. If it had continued Taylor Wily/Teila Tuli would have been the first maiming in UFC history. Gerard Gordeau is known now as a dirty fighter, back then though. He was just another fighter. He was literally seconds away from being stomped like Kevin Rosier got stomped in the next round of the fights.
He had the right as being a decent human. The narrator even says how the UFC was a scam thought up by the gracies to trick people into believing their style was superior. These two fighters had nothing to do with the scam beyond being other hand picked fighters with little to no ground fighting experience to abuse. To me the gracies with their dirty fighting, shady rules, and their lack of morals to steal a win is a black eye the UFC will always have.
@@ftniceberg874 was it a trick to make BJJ look superior or was the BJJ just actually superior to different fighting styles at the time. This was a time when people thought karate was the most effective fighting style so yeah they wanted to showcase BJJ to the masses because it was relatively unknown. They picked the scrawny Royce Gracie to show that a smaller man can win a fight against a much bigger opponent with their style. Ken Shamrock was a wrestler so they didn't pick all bums with no ground fighting experience for the tourney. Art Jimmerson was a legit boxer nobody was stopping him from punching Royce lights out before getting taken down. I mean look at what just happened with Oliveira and Gaethje last week. Literally a perfect example of BJJ being more superior than striking/wrestling, it's not a scam it's just the truth. It doesn't happen every time (Ryan Hall vs Topuria for example) but let's not pretend they were trying to trick people.
Had a ref in high school for basketball that was a local legend. He would sprint ever step he took the whole game, and when he blew his whistle it was always followed up with a furious scream of his call. When he called a foul, you would have thought he was condemning the player for some violent crime. After high school I found out that he spent every evening at a hole in the wall bar a few blocks from the school - talked to him a few times and the dude was a basketball encyclopedia - could tell you the stats of any noteable nba player for any year since he was born. Loved the sport, and went to the bar to watch ball and talk to people about it, never drank a drop. If every ref had his passion for their sport then…well, idk what then… but it would be cool.
Reminds me of a guy I worked with a long time ago. He could barely walk or work. Then a high school kid started working with us. He said that the guy was a high school basketball ref. He would run with the action with no problem.
My dad was the ref for rugby matches we had when we were kids for a good 11 years. He’s a fair bloke, if anything was harsher on me because I was his kid. Best ref I’ve had in a sporting competition.
@@aprayingatheist2378 It might’ve been playing for a minute would’ve been worth sacrificing his body, and experiencing pain for those couple minutes. The psychological part would be kinda cool to hear about, if his condition isn’t something like say brittle bones, compression fractures, nerve damage or those types of issues. I can’t remember what it’s called, but some people “hiccup” on their golf swing. Charles Barkley ( just coincidence) has had his issues very well documented about how even though he played golf for years suddenly when he’d try to swing right before hitting the ball he’d spaz out. It wasn’t a physical thing, and he’s dealt with all sorts of pressures, he tried many different therapies from what I recall. But it’s just kinda crazy how the human body works. Even when people don’t have structural issues.
Number one on this list should be when Dan Miragliotta urged Stefan Struve to continue going after repeated low blows, telling him that he would likely win the fight if he were to keep going. Struve got KO'd, and should never have had the ref give his input on the possible scoring of the fight. That was unbelievably bad and unprofessional.
he's the worst ref imo. to stand MVP up while ground and pounding bc you don't like taunting, then take a fucking important point, then say bc he is the ref that he won't win if he taunts is absurd. he's done too much bs over the years. most recently it wasn't even his reffing that was bad, Colby was legit shoot talking to Usman saying some cool things about respect/selling the fight and he breaks it up and says "you can kiss later, get out of here, nobody wants that". fuck off. these two men shared near 50 minutes of crazy battle and he has to get his words in? fuck off
Well the list was for Ref's that overreach; they have seperate lists for refs that just do straight-up fucking clown shit. Yamazaki is sitting firmly on that one 😄
The last fight on the list is Karlo Caput vs. Renat Lyatifov - it took place at IFAVIS - Crimea Rush: Piraev vs. Alers on 8/29/18, and the referee was Armen Ananyan
Fedor, arguably. Depends on if it's a UFC only list, obviously, and it's not like he's never won a fight since he lost to Werdum. But he certainly wasn't the same. The idea of him losing to Bigfoot Silva would have been unthinkable just shortly before it happened.
Not gonna lie. #4 was a blessing stoppage. That could have ended with a lot of overkill damage to Taylor. I mean seriously, soccer kicks and stomps were still allowed and I'm sure UFC 1 was not enforcing hits to the back of the head.
it wasn't even something to enforce, there were just no rules against elbows or fists to the back of the head, same with groin shots, headbutts, the soccer kicks and stomps you pointed out, etc.
From a humane and sensible perspective YES great stoppage , from the rules he was specifically given , not so great of a stoppage. I agree with you tho js
Yeah kinda baffled that ones on the list, "yeah he just had 3 teeth kicked out of his mouth, but he still wants to fight so lets go", what if Tuli's corner never threw in the towel, and he never tapped or went out. Should the ref have stopped the fight after his body stopped twitching? Would've been neat to have the first mma death in UFC 1 I guess.
Honestly i agree with how Herb handled Silva x Bisping. Maybe he should have given Mike his mouth piece but it's also on Mike for basically trying to call for a timeout. Also agree with him allowing it to continue.
For sure. Like the situation shouldn’t have happened but it wouldn’t be fair to have penalized Silva but also it wouldn’t have been fair to Mike to give him the loss and no allow him to keep fighting cause he had no mouth guard and was not defending himself and trying to get it back
Can't say that I agree on the Bisping v Silva point. As soon as Bisping hit the deck (after the knee landed) he was talking to Herb Dean and pointing at his mouth piece. He was down but certainly not out. And it was on the horn as well. It was a great call by Herb Dean and Silva was only acting confused because he was being schooled by Bisping. The only way he could win the fight was by acting like he'd won and forcing the stoppage, despite the fact that there wasnt one, it was the end of the round.
Honestly, wish we saw Trigg more. The times I have seen Frank he was a great ref. Of course Frank was a legit killer. Its nice to see an ex fighter with knowledge of the sport in there.
MMA On Point was MMA Fail in this video. I can tell he didn't watch the full fight because Jon Jones should have been DQ'ed 2 or 3 times in that fight. Jones grabbed Hamill's shorts, was holding the side of the fence, grabbed the top of the fence, hit him in the nuts, illegal elbows, & eye-poked him.
The worst moment of Jones' DQ loss was how, after stopping the action, Mazzagatti walks over to Matt Hamill (who is deaf, and currently has blood in his eyes) and verbally asks him if he is ok to continue. When Matt doesnt respond, Mazzagatti waves off the fight.
@@KariThomasMiller What's worse than that is that Matt couldn't explain all the fouls Jones did to him to the ref. Otherwise, he would have been DQ'ed sooner in the fight.
I understand the argument, but Jones did break the rules. It was intentional. The other fighter couldn't continue. DQ all day. It doesn't matter that Matt had zero chance of winning or that those elbows weren't the reason the fight was going that way.
MMA On Point was MMA Fail in this video. I can tell he didn't watch the full fight because Jon Jones should have been DQ'ed 2 or 3 times in that fight. Jones grabbed Hamill's shorts, was holding the side of the fence, grabbed the top of the fence, hit him in the nuts, illegal elbows, & eye-poked him.
actually we'll never really know if matt could have continued. maybe he could have. steve mazagatti asked him if he could continue and he didnt asnwer back, because well..... hes literally deaf lol. maybe if someone signed language to him he might have said yes.
Oh for sure! I noticed Miragliotta's HUGE ego in the Colby-Usman fight where he separates the fighters and make the mid-octagon talk between fighters all about himself starts laughing and says to both Kamaru and Colby: "go kiss later LOL" Like bro, GTFO, your job is done, let the fighters show sportsmanship.
this dude LOVES attention. Did the same thing when Oliveira got his belt against Chandler, Dana wrapped the belt around Do Bronx and it slightly grazed his pants he pretended he got hit in the balls to steal the camera focus. Drama queen.
@@elfamosourienmain3009 you’re over selling the moment. He definitely got grazed and then he laughed it off and walked away. Definitely wasn’t trying to get camera time.
@@spelunkingmonkey7630 nah, even Joe said Dan got uncomfortable, mofo blushed laughed, shook his head and separated two fighters who were clearly having a sportsmanship moment right there Which is HIGHLY unusual for a person who never breaks character in Colby
you don´t have to defend yourself against a half-conscious fighter trying to wrestle, not punch, you by putting them even more at risk. At no point was the well-being of the ref threatened.
No doubt. That dude wanted to beat the shit out of him thinking he was his opponent. Of course he needed to defend lmao the fact that it’s on this list is criminal
This is one of best narrated videos I’ve watch on this channel. “After usman 30%ed his way to the title shot” and haven’t heard anyone saying “twated” in time 🤣
The jones one is actually fair in retrospective, considering he got away with a non-contest for fighting cormier on PEDs. That should be a loss per deflaut. Not to mention all his eyepokes.
for the silva vs bisping its not the refs fault if the fighter stops protecting himself. protect yourself at all times is a rule they tell the fighters at the staredown. dont look away from your opponent especially anderson silva
@@randylahey5463 not at all, you have to pick the mouth piece up and you don't need to stop the fight to do so. You have to protect yourself at all times and Bisping didn't
@@fiansomalone1917 if he had protected himself herb dean would have been able to stop the fight. He took his attention off his opponent and got caught. If herb stopped the fight to give bisping his mouthpiece after he got rocked it would have been wrong on andersons part. He picked it up, waited for them to seperate and before he could step in, anderson threw his shot, seeing bispings attention elsewhere. sucks for bisping but anderson capitalized.
Jon Jones threw illegal elbows and you guys are arguing that it shouldn’t have been a disqualification 🤦🏻 in that case everyone should just start doing illegal shit lol
Complete misinformation on the Silva bisping fight. Bisping was down, never out. He literally looked up at herb immediately after dropping. He was down and wobbled but never knocked out. And Silva didn't just "think" the match was over. He knew he was losing the entire fight up to that point, and saw this as his opportunity to win the fight by playing dumb.
You're waaay off point when it comes to Bisping. He got droped, yeah, but out? He was covering his head, and when the sound of the horn to end the round came, he even told Herb that he wasn't out.
@@markus7166 maybe but it was all a mess, the round ended straight as Silva was in the air so fair play he was saved by the bell but bisping won the next round
Matt Hamill got the Win because he was asked if he could continue, obviously he's deaf and didn't answer the referee and the fight was called a DQ because he couldn't continue after the illegal shots no idea why you guys didn't mention that since that was the problem... the fact Hamill is deaf and he couldn't respond made that a DQ win for him not because the referee overreached but went by the rules
Jones deserves that DQ loss on his record. Do illegal shit, pay the price. That's basically the only price he's paid for all of his fouls, especially his NUMEROUS eye pokes. May it forever tarnish his record.
Dan completely lost me during the MVP fight. That was such a blatant “I don’t like this guy so I’m gonna try” moment. It showed to me that he uses his personal preference during fights and likely did before as well
When i was watching the fight I was confused to why Dan even took a point considering MVP has done something similar in all his fights without even being warned, just makes Dan look like a dick
Oh for sure! I noticed that in the Colby-Usman fight where he separates the fighters and make the mid-octagon talk between fighters all about himself starts laughing and says to both Kamaru and Colby: "go kiss later LOL" Like bro, GTFO, your job is done, let the fighters show sportsmanship.
Bisping was never out when he ate that knee. He was rocked but still there covering up. Dude ate that, stayed conscious and went on to win the next round. He was fine, true BMF shit
One thing you forgot about Jones vs Hamill, is that Hamill is deaf. You are right, the 12 to 6 elbows are not allowed, and Steve asked Hamill if he could continue. He could not answer om the floor, since he was blind by the blood, therefore, he did not knew that Steve was talking to him. Jones should get DQ’ed anyway… but get it right
IIRC, the thing is that because the action was stopped on a penalty, even though the damage beforehand was more impactful to him not being able to continue, by the rules its a DQ loss if the fighter can't continue. Same thing came up recently with Diego Sanchez didn't it? Where he used that rule to get a much easier victory rather than continuing to fight. And lets be honest, with all of the rule breaks Jones does he should have around 5 losses due just to eyepoke DQs and point deductions.
MMA On Point was MMA Fail in this video. I can tell he didn't watch the full fight because Jon Jones should have been DQ'ed 2 or 3 times in that fight. Jones grabbed Hamill's shorts, was holding the side of the fence, grabbed the top of the fence, hit him in the nuts, illegal elbows, & eye-poked him.
Dan didn't overstep on the showboater. He just did the same damn thing but on a referee-level. And the ref choking out the fighter was the dude's corner's fault. If he had enough time to choke the dude out & smile for 12 seconds his corner was practically none-existent.
Love how this channel covers so much ground. With other sports media it's just the same topics over and over again. The videos are always so interesting, they do such a professional job. AMAZIN'!
And it was his last fight too. What a tragic way to end his career. That guy made the HW division so much fun and was always a threat to beat even the top guys
Curious how far in advance you guys make these videos ? Timing after something happens is always good and relevant. Noticed this one you didn’t comment on Cowboy being released which lead to this question lol
To be fair to Mazaggatti, Lawler vs Diaz is his probably best stoppage ever. People didn't think Nick was a KO guy but the moment Lawler got dropped, he stopped it immediately
I remember being told by a ref that you cant verbally abuse an opponent in a pre fight rules meeting. Is shouting 'what motherf*cker' not abusive language? Bit of a stretch on that one guys. 😆
the bisping thing was andersons fault, he celebrated before it was ever called off and herb can wait as long as he wants actually till he feels it appropriate to stop the action, if u or bisping thinks there was a moment thats ur fault cuz anderson seen that as a moment too attack the fight was still going.
anderson showed clearly he was still in range to finish the fight hence not an apropriate time to stop the action especially when bisping is on the cage getting measured by the black line from anderson fucking silva.
Surprised Pettis triangle vs Porier wasn’t on here. I don’t remember who the ref was. But Pettis had a fully locked in triangle on Porier and the referee stood him up to check out his cut. Then he reset the action from guard.
I'm confused as to how inaction from Herb Dean in the Bisping-Silva fight is an "overstep?" He let the dude get hit when Bisping assumed the action would be stopped, and then he didn't stop the fight when he got clocked with the knee at the horn. If anything, you can argue both were the right call, and he definitely wasn't "out.". This is a shit inclusion on the list and the literal opposite of an overstep.
The problem is fighters already like to bounce in front of each other without doing ANYTHING so for them to chat shit to each other whilst bouncing around in front of each other is kind of a piss take to the fans that fucking pay money.
To be fair to Dan Miragliotta, he had already warned Kiely for harassment, so when MVP decided to flagrantly return said harassment, Dan was pretty understandably pissed. I think it's silly he even gave the first warning, but I think that was just a case of him sticking to his guns.
Bit of a dick move by MVP. He's already outclassing his opponent. No need to add insult to injury. Reminds me of BJM take on the no foul language rule. He said he wouldn't enforce the rule unless the guy losing is being called a bitch or either party uses a homophobic or racial slur.
I don't get how Mazzagatti is at fault for the Jones vs Hammill decision. We just saw Aljamain win a fight by DQ (a title fight, no less) because his opponent hit him with an illegal strike and he couldn't continue. He was likely losing up until that point too. Many MMA journalists have applauded this, even if fans didn't, because Yan's knee was illegal and it's on Yan to know the rules. How is the Jones situation any different? Just because we think the 12-6 elbow rule is stupid doesn't mean Mazzagatti overstepped by enforcing the rules.
I think it's mainly because the elbows jon threw weren't the cause of matt not being able to continue. Matt was already beaten up badly and had a dislocated shoulder from the take down.
@@lukeaspland9500 Plus Mazzagatti made a bone-headed decision to ask if Matt Hamill was okay, when he should have known Matt was deaf and could not hear him.
@@lukeaspland9500 If the fighter was already battered then the other fighter should get in even more trouble for knowingly throwing several blatantly illegal strikes. When someone cheats it doesn't matter if they would've won anyways or had already one, you still punish them and disqualify them for cheating in the first place. "That's not fair." No it's not, just how the cheating party wanted it.
LOL This isn't comparable to Yan/Sterling 1 at all. Jones incapacitated Hamill by separating his shoulder with the throw, then he hit him with a couple dozen legal strikes before the 12-6 landed. Hamill was already done, and borderline fouls happen in finishing flurries all the time. I didn't have an issue with the DQ until Mazzagatti came out and said that Jones hadn't really done anything to hurt Hamill until the last two elbows. Dude is a shitty ref that loses focus during fights.
You guys had an awesome live stream last weekend. I found by accident but will be tuning in from now on. Great play-by-play mixed with commentary and it was cool to see Marc Goddard in the studio.
Bisping was not knocked out by Silva. He spoke to herb as soon as he the floor. Also if no one is familiar Matt Hamill dislocated his Shoulder in the Takedown and was unable to continue!
Dan Miragliotta during Cyril Gane vs Derrick Lewis. Lewis kept droping his mouthguard to stall for time and he did it again in the final minute of the fight when Gane was wobbling him. Dan actually stopped Cyril's rush and gave Lewis his mouthguard and extra time to recover. Dirty imo.
I agree with Goddard though (I assume from the video, haven't seen the actual fight). "Laying and praying" isn't "Fighting", it's just running out the clock. Fighting is working towards a finish. "Laying and praying" is just "Restraining".
ahhh the good ol struggle snuggle...can't complain about it though or the "purists" get all "i was a purple belt, you don't know fighting" ehhh...i know it don't look like a sleeping contest...and i know that shits not worth a ticket but ok lol
Exactly. I don't even know why he would list that fight. Herb Dean made the right call. Silva is the one who started acting like a complete jacka** even though the ref at no point in time, waved off the fight.
@@one0onelion248 it was listed here because of Herb's actions, but there's no doubt about that Michael was never been out after that knee. if he was out he won't have a chitchat with Herb after that brutal knee he took that change the tide of the fight in favor of Silva.
I completely disagree with what you said about the yellow card rule. I would love if they brought that into the UFC and up minimum wage. At the end of the day, fans in the arena and fans at home, are paying to see a fight, and Francis Ngannou vs Derrick Lewis was an embarrassment to the sport. And anybody who paid for that specific fight, should get their money back. Imagine paying somebody to clean your house only to find out they barely washed the dishes. You wouldn't turn around and say "that cleaner needs to get paid more". 99.9% of people know what a fight should look like, the average Joe who buys a plane ticket to travel, to see a fight that has like a 90% chance of finishing by K.O. And only seeing 2 significant strikes landed in 15-minutes, should at least get a discount on you ticket. But if the UFC give fighters so many bonuses for knockouts and spectacular performances, they should deduct money, for having literally a non fight.
I still dont understand why people shit on Maz for the Jones-Hammil call. A HUGE problem in MMA is refs not enforcing the rules and just letting the fighters get away with 20 eye pokes, 10 low blows, 7 cage grabs, etc every fight. What Jon did was illegal and what led to the fight being stopped, pretty simple.
Goddard during Cormier-Miocic III. Stipe eye pokes DC at the end of rd. 2, DC complains, Goddard replies 'It was a punch Daniel. Sit down'. Goddard talked down to him like you would a child. Reminder that Anik also had a public spat with Goddard where he accused him of talking to the fighters condescendingly. That along with the Usman-Woodley incident shows what Goddard must be like backstage
Goddard is a piece of crap. He gets noticeably upset when the fighters are getting more attention than him, so pretty much always. The bias in the Colby Usman first fight was ridiculous too.
@@jonh8790 yuuuup! Shit last cormier fight i saw there was like, three timeouts called for eye pokes alone. No points deducted though *stares at big dan*
Not even really overkill, he handled it quickly and effectively considering he was a good bit smaller than the fighter and nobody was trying to help him
Yes a legendary POS who is extremely unprofessional little man and unable to tuck his ego. The fighter was out and confused it’s not like he got attacked by a fully conscious man
you didnt mention in the bisping vs silva fight, that the bell rang right after the knee. so ... there is also the aspect that he was saved by it and michael had time to recover. you often see in high stakes fight that the ref allow the fight to go on "longer than it should" to give the fighter at least a chance to come back (congo vs barry comes to mind. could he have stopped way earlier? no doubt. are we glad he didnt? absolutely. one of the sickest comebacks in the history). if the round would go on longer and silva would decide to follow up on his knee, michael would be most likely out. mike himself didnt sugarcoat it and said he absolutely was saved by the bell.
I like the idea of taking points honestly if a guy is clowning in the ring. Maybe Anderson silva would have done more against Damian Mia. But in general point deductions are underutilized. Cage holding, shorts holding, eyepokes, cheap shots. All could use points being docked. Jones might have lost a fight or 2 if his rampant exploitation of the eye poke was deducted every time
Pride red cards were the best. Everyone knows what they're there to do. When guys are timid it's kind of dishonorable. I like the idea of red card penalties
@@jazzabighits4473 were they yellow cards? You might be right. Regardless, I still like that idea. Even though there aren't a huge number of guys who stall or only wait for counters right now. I think one of the fights that really cemented it for me was bader vs machida of all things. I was a big machida fan, but watching that one made me feel bad for ryan. Machida was perfectly content with waiting for bader just to wade in throwing so he could counter him. Ryan did the right thing and tried to stalemate him by also waiting. The crowd furiously booed until bader got frustrated and just stupidly ran in swingin and it was over. I'm not sayin he would have even come close to winning that fight, but I could at least see that he felt bad that the fans were booing them. Lyoto didn't give a shit and was perfectly fine letting them boo and forcing his opponent to come to him. Yellow cards, in my opinion would level the field in situations like that.
Anybody else pissed that they didn’t just show the footage from each one of these fights and each situation instead we get B roll footage from fucking movies like they showed a completely different flying knee for the Michael Bisping and Silva fight 😂😂 by the way you showed the Halloween one twice. Shit video making really do better
Interesting take. Honestly the Russian ref didn’t do anything completely weird in MMA standards. I mean, MMA artist joke that being put in a choke unconscious isn’t “that bad”. So how was that overreaching? Even in UA-cam Mixed martial artist choke other people for fun all the time 🤔
Can we just take a second to appreciate Jason Herzog. The guy seems to be one of the most consistent refs ever and is constantly doing a stellar job.
He’s my favorite and he also reminds me of the cool math teacher you had in high school
Herzog is my boy. Been saying for awhile now that he is the best 👍🏻
I think he's the best by a mile.
Yeah he’s one of the best .. until he makes one mistake and everybody turns on him
Been saying that for years. Hence why nobody's talking about him, cause he's a great ref.
#1 gotta be when the ref mistakenly thought Chael Sonnen tapped out against Silva, when he was clearly just giving him a congratulatory pat.
Still undefeated.
True dude messed up
Best comment on UA-cam
Most accurate too
And awarding the fight to silva instead of going to the scorecards. Sonnen won rds 1-4 silva wond rd5. So 49-46 on the scorecard
Also the judges registered Chael patting Silva as having lost that fight, when under the Unified Rules of Sonnen, he only lost THAT ROUND.
Never lost a round that man
Man s/o to that ref that fell back and caught dude neck before he hit the canvas. Next level athleticism and humanity…
And it looked pretty graceful too!
I was about to say this. That man is the true MVP.
Theres a couple of Thai refs who do it on the reg. Love to see it.
One cannot say the same in regards to your grammar.😵
@@jameshughes525 lol says the man editing comments at 11 o clock at night.
That UFC 1 ref stoppage was the right decision. Even if it wasn’t his right to do so
Agreed. If it had continued Taylor Wily/Teila Tuli would have been the first maiming in UFC history.
Gerard Gordeau is known now as a dirty fighter, back then though. He was just another fighter.
He was literally seconds away from being stomped like Kevin Rosier got stomped in the next round of the fights.
He had the right as being a decent human. The narrator even says how the UFC was a scam thought up by the gracies to trick people into believing their style was superior. These two fighters had nothing to do with the scam beyond being other hand picked fighters with little to no ground fighting experience to abuse. To me the gracies with their dirty fighting, shady rules, and their lack of morals to steal a win is a black eye the UFC will always have.
@@ftniceberg874 The ol Gracie conspiracy eh
@@ftniceberg874 was it a trick to make BJJ look superior or was the BJJ just actually superior to different fighting styles at the time. This was a time when people thought karate was the most effective fighting style so yeah they wanted to showcase BJJ to the masses because it was relatively unknown. They picked the scrawny Royce Gracie to show that a smaller man can win a fight against a much bigger opponent with their style. Ken Shamrock was a wrestler so they didn't pick all bums with no ground fighting experience for the tourney. Art Jimmerson was a legit boxer nobody was stopping him from punching Royce lights out before getting taken down. I mean look at what just happened with Oliveira and Gaethje last week. Literally a perfect example of BJJ being more superior than striking/wrestling, it's not a scam it's just the truth. It doesn't happen every time (Ryan Hall vs Topuria for example) but let's not pretend they were trying to trick people.
@@salbonpensiero1704 gordeau was supposed to fight gracie in the first fight, when they found out his credentials they changed the match up
Had a ref in high school for basketball that was a local legend. He would sprint ever step he took the whole game, and when he blew his whistle it was always followed up with a furious scream of his call. When he called a foul, you would have thought he was condemning the player for some violent crime. After high school I found out that he spent every evening at a hole in the wall bar a few blocks from the school - talked to him a few times and the dude was a basketball encyclopedia - could tell you the stats of any noteable nba player for any year since he was born. Loved the sport, and went to the bar to watch ball and talk to people about it, never drank a drop. If every ref had his passion for their sport then…well, idk what then… but it would be cool.
Reminds me of a guy I worked with a long time ago. He could barely walk or work.
Then a high school kid started working with us. He said that the guy was a high school basketball ref. He would run with the action with no problem.
@@charleshodgdon6168 so he was just faking it at work? Or did basketball miraculously make him healthy
My dad was the ref for rugby matches we had when we were kids for a good 11 years. He’s a fair bloke, if anything was harsher on me because I was his kid. Best ref I’ve had in a sporting competition.
@@aprayingatheist2378 It might’ve been playing for a minute would’ve been worth sacrificing his body, and experiencing pain for those couple minutes.
The psychological part would be kinda cool to hear about, if his condition isn’t something like say brittle bones, compression fractures, nerve damage or those types of issues.
I can’t remember what it’s called, but some people “hiccup” on their golf swing. Charles Barkley ( just coincidence) has had his issues very well documented about how even though he played golf for years suddenly when he’d try to swing right before hitting the ball he’d spaz out. It wasn’t a physical thing, and he’s dealt with all sorts of pressures, he tried many different therapies from what I recall.
But it’s just kinda crazy how the human body works. Even when people don’t have structural issues.
Hope that man is still doing what makes him happy
Number one on this list should be when Dan Miragliotta urged Stefan Struve to continue going after repeated low blows, telling him that he would likely win the fight if he were to keep going. Struve got KO'd, and should never have had the ref give his input on the possible scoring of the fight. That was unbelievably bad and unprofessional.
Holy shit, why wasn’t this investigated 😟
Was waiting for that one, expected it to be #1
he's the worst ref imo. to stand MVP up while ground and pounding bc you don't like taunting, then take a fucking important point, then say bc he is the ref that he won't win if he taunts is absurd. he's done too much bs over the years. most recently it wasn't even his reffing that was bad, Colby was legit shoot talking to Usman saying some cool things about respect/selling the fight and he breaks it up and says "you can kiss later, get out of here, nobody wants that". fuck off. these two men shared near 50 minutes of crazy battle and he has to get his words in? fuck off
Well the list was for Ref's that overreach; they have seperate lists for refs that just do straight-up fucking clown shit. Yamazaki is sitting firmly on that one 😄
Dan is the worse
The last fight on the list is Karlo Caput vs. Renat Lyatifov - it took place at IFAVIS - Crimea Rush: Piraev vs. Alers on 8/29/18, and the referee was Armen Ananyan
Damn, son.
brilliant dan
Good man...... good man
Can you find out where my ex gf lives and if she's seeing anybody? Names, addresses, times, etc?
Lmaooo 💀
10 champs who never recovered after losing the belt
Tyron woodley from being champ in 2019 to losing to jake paul twice 2 years later
Off the top... Weidman, Woodley, Barao, Ronda, Hendricks, and im sure a few more that aren't coming to me right now
Cody
Cody Garbrandt :{
Fedor, arguably. Depends on if it's a UFC only list, obviously, and it's not like he's never won a fight since he lost to Werdum. But he certainly wasn't the same. The idea of him losing to Bigfoot Silva would have been unthinkable just shortly before it happened.
Not gonna lie. #4 was a blessing stoppage. That could have ended with a lot of overkill damage to Taylor. I mean seriously, soccer kicks and stomps were still allowed and I'm sure UFC 1 was not enforcing hits to the back of the head.
it wasn't even something to enforce, there were just no rules against elbows or fists to the back of the head, same with groin shots, headbutts, the soccer kicks and stomps you pointed out, etc.
You’re right. Especially considering Gerard is a trash human being.
From a humane and sensible perspective YES great stoppage , from the rules he was specifically given , not so great of a stoppage. I agree with you tho js
Yeah kinda baffled that ones on the list, "yeah he just had 3 teeth kicked out of his mouth, but he still wants to fight so lets go", what if Tuli's corner never threw in the towel, and he never tapped or went out. Should the ref have stopped the fight after his body stopped twitching? Would've been neat to have the first mma death in UFC 1 I guess.
@@Chicken-Chaser agreed whole-heartedly
I didn’t stop this video.
I wanted MMA on Point to be a warrior
You have him the full 15 minutes .. good Man
Honestly i agree with how Herb handled Silva x Bisping. Maybe he should have given Mike his mouth piece but it's also on Mike for basically trying to call for a timeout. Also agree with him allowing it to continue.
Herb is pretty fair.
For sure. Like the situation shouldn’t have happened but it wouldn’t be fair to have penalized Silva but also it wouldn’t have been fair to Mike to give him the loss and no allow him to keep fighting cause he had no mouth guard and was not defending himself and trying to get it back
Can't say that I agree on the Bisping v Silva point. As soon as Bisping hit the deck (after the knee landed) he was talking to Herb Dean and pointing at his mouth piece. He was down but certainly not out. And it was on the horn as well. It was a great call by Herb Dean and Silva was only acting confused because he was being schooled by Bisping. The only way he could win the fight was by acting like he'd won and forcing the stoppage, despite the fact that there wasnt one, it was the end of the round.
MMA ON POINT: “Cowboy Oliveira has long been a staple of the UFC roster…”
UFC: Cuts Oliveira from the roster less than 24 hours ago.
😢😢🥺
Cowboy Oliveira is grappling against Maia soon
why did the cut him?
@@Chuckichanly They didn’t cut him. He fought his contract out and didn’t resign
Honestly, wish we saw Trigg more. The times I have seen Frank he was a great ref.
Of course Frank was a legit killer. Its nice to see an ex fighter with knowledge of the sport in there.
whenever i see trigg reffing, i feel more at ease, not to say he couldn't make a wrong call either, but well experience says it all.
That shit really messed with my head. Seeing him ref that first fight. Thought i was in the twilight zone
If AlJo can win a title from an illegal knee... Jon Jones can take the L for multiple illegal elbows.
MMA On Point was MMA Fail in this video. I can tell he didn't watch the full fight because Jon Jones should have been DQ'ed 2 or 3 times in that fight. Jones grabbed Hamill's shorts, was holding the side of the fence, grabbed the top of the fence, hit him in the nuts, illegal elbows, & eye-poked him.
The worst moment of Jones' DQ loss was how, after stopping the action, Mazzagatti walks over to Matt Hamill (who is deaf, and currently has blood in his eyes) and verbally asks him if he is ok to continue. When Matt doesnt respond, Mazzagatti waves off the fight.
@@KariThomasMiller Jones is garbage
@@KariThomasMiller What's worse than that is that Matt couldn't explain all the fouls Jones did to him to the ref. Otherwise, he would have been DQ'ed sooner in the fight.
Both were shite decisions
''Think about all the other shit people get away with'' and JON JONES interview haahhaahahahha good one
bisping taking a full on knee to the jaw without a mouth piece, then going on to win is just another reason he's the real BMF
The fact he was fighting at "home" helped sway that decision
Lol no
@@youknow2849 shut up with that crap. It's the non-British judges that give him the decisions. Location is irrelevant
@@youknow2849 Bisping won 3 of the 5 rounds. One of them even being after the knee.
@@youknow2849 lol the judges weren't British though nimrod
"Cowboy Oliveira has long been a staple of the UFC roster." Wow, that was sad to hear and poorly timed.
He got cut?
@@thesilentassassin1167 yep
@@thesilentassassin1167 his holland fight was his last fight on his contract and he wasn't re-signed. He wasn't cut
@@dubblerbubbler7350 semantics man
@@thesilentassassin1167 Yeah, yesterday the news came out.
I understand the argument, but Jones did break the rules. It was intentional. The other fighter couldn't continue. DQ all day. It doesn't matter that Matt had zero chance of winning or that those elbows weren't the reason the fight was going that way.
MMA On Point was MMA Fail in this video. I can tell he didn't watch the full fight because Jon Jones should have been DQ'ed 2 or 3 times in that fight. Jones grabbed Hamill's shorts, was holding the side of the fence, grabbed the top of the fence, hit him in the nuts, illegal elbows, & eye-poked him.
actually we'll never really know if matt could have continued. maybe he could have. steve mazagatti asked him if he could continue and he didnt asnwer back, because well..... hes literally deaf lol. maybe if someone signed language to him he might have said yes.
@@romardelacruz6462 Luckily for his win bonus, he didn't get to answer. LOL. Still the only person to hold a win over JJ.
@@TheScottronica ah win is ah win !!! lmao he gets to say he beat JJ via head butts to his elbow lololol
in MMA you traditionally would be issued a warning possibly two before a DQ
Oh for sure!
I noticed Miragliotta's HUGE ego in the Colby-Usman fight where he separates the fighters and make the mid-octagon talk between fighters all about himself starts laughing and says to both Kamaru and Colby: "go kiss later LOL" Like bro, GTFO, your job is done, let the fighters show sportsmanship.
this dude LOVES attention. Did the same thing when Oliveira got his belt against Chandler, Dana wrapped the belt around Do Bronx and it slightly grazed his pants he pretended he got hit in the balls to steal the camera focus. Drama queen.
@@elfamosourienmain3009 you’re over selling the moment. He definitely got grazed and then he laughed it off and walked away. Definitely wasn’t trying to get camera time.
Bro chill out he had to separate them so they could get ready to announce the result of the fight, it isn’t that deep
@@spelunkingmonkey7630 nah, even Joe said Dan got uncomfortable, mofo blushed laughed, shook his head and separated two fighters who were clearly having a sportsmanship moment right there
Which is HIGHLY unusual for a person who never breaks character in Colby
MVP taking selfies during a fight is the funniest thing I've ever seen in a MMA match. Lol
I don't like the guy or his antics but that was seriously funny.
The last ref should’ve gotten a performance of the night bonus🔥
The ref choking out the Russian fighter was in no way, an over reach. It was completely necessary. It's called self defense
Yeah agree
you don´t have to defend yourself against a half-conscious fighter trying to wrestle, not punch, you by putting them even more at risk. At no point was the well-being of the ref threatened.
No doubt. That dude wanted to beat the shit out of him thinking he was his opponent. Of course he needed to defend lmao the fact that it’s on this list is criminal
that dig at mazagatti making up his own rules is some low hanging fruit XD
One thing that stands out is how Mergliotta separate Usman and Colby after their fight
And how he was a shot ref that fight
This is one of best narrated videos I’ve watch on this channel. “After usman 30%ed his way to the title shot” and haven’t heard anyone saying “twated” in time 🤣
The jones one is actually fair in retrospective, considering he got away with a non-contest for fighting cormier on PEDs. That should be a loss per deflaut.
Not to mention all his eyepokes.
Eye pokes are always considered accidental. Take it up with the ufc. It kills you that Jones didn't lose huh?
Everybody knows the big names like McCarthy and Dern but Herzog is incredibly consistent and fair. Thanks Jason!
Cowboy “had” been a staple the UFC didn’t renew his contract.
This comment made me sad
Probably for the best. Cowboy is a legend but he needs to retire, no need to take needless damage at his age
@@tsunax1400 they mean cowboy Oliveira not Donald cerrone
@@zippy2707 Oh, didn't know that. I mean that sucks but tbf he was 3-7 in his last 10 and lost his last 4, which is generous by UFC standards
@@zippy2707 both should retire
for the silva vs bisping its not the refs fault if the fighter stops protecting himself. protect yourself at all times is a rule they tell the fighters at the staredown. dont look away from your opponent especially anderson silva
Herb saw the mouth guard come out and let the fight continue. That was a total fuck up on Herb's part.
@@randylahey5463 not at all, you have to pick the mouth piece up and you don't need to stop the fight to do so. You have to protect yourself at all times and Bisping didn't
you're missing the point, that's not the fuck up, the fuck up is letting the fight continue afterwards
@@fiansomalone1917 if he had protected himself herb dean would have been able to stop the fight. He took his attention off his opponent and got caught. If herb stopped the fight to give bisping his mouthpiece after he got rocked it would have been wrong on andersons part. He picked it up, waited for them to seperate and before he could step in, anderson threw his shot, seeing bispings attention elsewhere. sucks for bisping but anderson capitalized.
@@fiansomalone1917 not the fuck up at all bisping was never out, literal definition of saved by the bell
Top 10 houses sold by Al Iaquinta
Jon Jones threw illegal elbows and you guys are arguing that it shouldn’t have been a disqualification 🤦🏻 in that case everyone should just start doing illegal shit lol
agreed, was hopeing someone else brought it up. regardless of what happened earlier in the fight.
@@ROTAR666 No warning?
Maybe just don't throw illegal shots, especially when you're winning. xD
Complete misinformation on the Silva bisping fight. Bisping was down, never out. He literally looked up at herb immediately after dropping. He was down and wobbled but never knocked out. And Silva didn't just "think" the match was over. He knew he was losing the entire fight up to that point, and saw this as his opportunity to win the fight by playing dumb.
I remember myltiple people were trying to tell anderson the fight was not over but he was like acting not to listen
@@amirlee6431 yup.
You're waaay off point when it comes to Bisping.
He got droped, yeah, but out?
He was covering his head, and when the sound of the horn to end the round came, he even told Herb that he wasn't out.
“Which basically put him unconscious, at least for a brief second”. You always this overdramatic?
@@Jamesfrancosdog oh, yes!
I am very overdramatic.
In fact me and Tana Mongeau have the same acting coach.
Had the fight continued from there he would have been brutally KOed. You’re right, I wish they didn’t stop it 😂
@@markus7166 maybe but it was all a mess, the round ended straight as Silva was in the air so fair play he was saved by the bell but bisping won the next round
Bisping was awake, he was not out.
Matt Hamill got the Win because he was asked if he could continue, obviously he's deaf and didn't answer the referee and the fight was called a DQ because he couldn't continue after the illegal shots
no idea why you guys didn't mention that since that was the problem... the fact Hamill is deaf and he couldn't respond made that a DQ win for him not because the referee overreached but went by the rules
Jones deserves that DQ loss on his record. Do illegal shit, pay the price. That's basically the only price he's paid for all of his fouls, especially his NUMEROUS eye pokes. May it forever tarnish his record.
Dan completely lost me during the MVP fight. That was such a blatant “I don’t like this guy so I’m gonna try” moment. It showed to me that he uses his personal preference during fights and likely did before as well
When i was watching the fight I was confused to why Dan even took a point considering MVP has done something similar in all his fights without even being warned, just makes Dan look like a dick
Dan is a bad ref. Watch Kimbo vs Thompson. Wouldn't be surprised if he was paid off on that one
Oh for sure!
I noticed that in the Colby-Usman fight where he separates the fighters and make the mid-octagon talk between fighters all about himself starts laughing and says to both Kamaru and Colby: "go kiss later LOL" Like bro, GTFO, your job is done, let the fighters show sportsmanship.
MVP should have a point deducted every round just for being MVP.
@@toyotaecw I feel like you're trying to insult him, but that'd almost be a fair handicap for the Bellator competition he's beheading.
Silva handed that fight to Bisping. Herb did nothing wrong there.
It’s not a legitimate top 10 without Steve mazzagatti on there more than once
I won’t lie, Herb Dean was 100% right in Bisping vs Silva
Bisping was never out when he ate that knee. He was rocked but still there covering up. Dude ate that, stayed conscious and went on to win the next round. He was fine, true BMF shit
I'm still salty that Dan Hary and Herb Dean never got that grudge match in the cage
One thing you forgot about Jones vs Hamill, is that Hamill is deaf. You are right, the 12 to 6 elbows are not allowed, and Steve asked Hamill if he could continue. He could not answer om the floor, since he was blind by the blood, therefore, he did not knew that Steve was talking to him.
Jones should get DQ’ed anyway… but get it right
IIRC, the thing is that because the action was stopped on a penalty, even though the damage beforehand was more impactful to him not being able to continue, by the rules its a DQ loss if the fighter can't continue. Same thing came up recently with Diego Sanchez didn't it? Where he used that rule to get a much easier victory rather than continuing to fight. And lets be honest, with all of the rule breaks Jones does he should have around 5 losses due just to eyepoke DQs and point deductions.
MMA On Point was MMA Fail in this video. I can tell he didn't watch the full fight because Jon Jones should have been DQ'ed 2 or 3 times in that fight. Jones grabbed Hamill's shorts, was holding the side of the fence, grabbed the top of the fence, hit him in the nuts, illegal elbows, & eye-poked him.
Dan didn't overstep on the showboater. He just did the same damn thing but on a referee-level. And the ref choking out the fighter was the dude's corner's fault. If he had enough time to choke the dude out & smile for 12 seconds his corner was practically none-existent.
You should do a top 10 fighters most likely to pull a Bisping/Glover and get the belt near the end of their careers
That's impossible to predict. Anyone would be lucky to get 1 or 2 right
@@Dukeflyhawker That's part of the fun
There’s literally a shot clock in basketball to avoid stalling.
They don’t dox pay though for shot clock violations tho
It's also illegal in MMA in the unified rules.
"That's Herb Deans fault"
-Derrick Lewis
I have to admit that I agree that MVP is a piece of… work… Good job Dan.
Love how this channel covers so much ground. With other sports media it's just the same topics over and over again. The videos are always so interesting, they do such a professional job. AMAZIN'!
I love when Big Dan poked Heath Herring in the eye before his fight with Brock Lesnar 🤣
And Lesnar broke his orbital bone with the first punch of the fight! The eye poke was an omen….
And it was his last fight too. What a tragic way to end his career. That guy made the HW division so much fun and was always a threat to beat even the top guys
@@Dukeflyhawker damb
@@Dukeflyhawker damn
@@bastard342 Damn indeed. I really liked what Herring what brought to the division
Curious how far in advance you guys make these videos ? Timing after something happens is always good and relevant. Noticed this one you didn’t comment on Cowboy being released which lead to this question lol
@@jcar4lifemancity4life5 yes, cowboy Olivera got released
@@jcar4lifemancity4life5 this video talks about alex "cowboy" oliveira who just parted way with the UFC not charlie olives lol 😂😂
@@lolwizard1 bro really confidently called Charlie Olives Cowboy lmfaooo
Jones DESERVED TO LOSE! Jones DESERVED to be DQ'd from at least five fights. He is a cheater and will continue to cheat.
I came here to pretty much say the same thing. Ped's are no joke even if used in the past it gives a huge strength advantage
Found DCs UA-cam account 😂
You’re racist asf
To be fair to Mazaggatti, Lawler vs Diaz is his probably best stoppage ever. People didn't think Nick was a KO guy but the moment Lawler got dropped, he stopped it immediately
"Convince me Steve Mazzagatti isn't a tool." -Dana White
No ref will ever reach the legendary status of Steve Mazagatti. America's favorite toolbox😂
I remember being told by a ref that you cant verbally abuse an opponent in a pre fight rules meeting. Is shouting 'what motherf*cker' not abusive language? Bit of a stretch on that one guys. 😆
Get rid of these guys man, they're not as energetic at TOMMY
the bisping thing was andersons fault, he celebrated before it was ever called off and herb can wait as long as he wants actually till he feels it appropriate to stop the action, if u or bisping thinks there was a moment thats ur fault cuz anderson seen that as a moment too attack the fight was still going.
anderson showed clearly he was still in range to finish the fight hence not an apropriate time to stop the action especially when bisping is on the cage getting measured by the black line from anderson fucking silva.
As always it was Herb's fault. Well his and Bisbings.
Silva handed that fight to Bisping. 100% his fault. As much as I dislike Herb he isn't to blame at all.
Karma for Bisping.
Anderson did nothing wrong, you’re supposed to protect yourself at all times and he was definitely out for a minute so ofc Silva thought it was over
You and I disagree on that last one sir
Surprised Pettis triangle vs Porier wasn’t on here. I don’t remember who the ref was. But Pettis had a fully locked in triangle on Porier and the referee stood him up to check out his cut. Then he reset the action from guard.
"Fully locked" lmao he was slipping out of every sub attempt
Spotting lotr cut scenes makes me just as excited as new videos 😁
Can you please make a top ten ref moments? We need some love for the refs.
I'm confused as to how inaction from Herb Dean in the Bisping-Silva fight is an "overstep?" He let the dude get hit when Bisping assumed the action would be stopped, and then he didn't stop the fight when he got clocked with the knee at the horn.
If anything, you can argue both were the right call, and he definitely wasn't "out.". This is a shit inclusion on the list and the literal opposite of an overstep.
Trash talk should definitely be allowed during a fight , that's doing the least damage during a FIGHT
99.9% of the population today are fragile snowflakes who can easily be destroyed by words
The problem is fighters already like to bounce in front of each other without doing ANYTHING so for them to chat shit to each other whilst bouncing around in front of each other is kind of a piss take to the fans that fucking pay money.
Bisping was defo not unconscious. The right call should've been Herb stopping the action to make sure Bisping got his mouthpiece.
To be fair to Dan Miragliotta, he had already warned Kiely for harassment, so when MVP decided to flagrantly return said harassment, Dan was pretty understandably pissed. I think it's silly he even gave the first warning, but I think that was just a case of him sticking to his guns.
Bit of a dick move by MVP. He's already outclassing his opponent. No need to add insult to injury. Reminds me of BJM take on the no foul language rule. He said he wouldn't enforce the rule unless the guy losing is being called a bitch or either party uses a homophobic or racial slur.
He’s not their dad out there
@@kannyradotv3241 you right. He’s the ref. He has consistently more power and should be given consistently more respect.
Thought his warning was fair. Mvp was just being a clown rather than looking to finish an outmatched fighter. It wasn’t funny, just cringe
@@kannyradotv3241 You're right. I AM. And I'm grateful Dan Miragliotta ended that hooliganism right quick.
I don't get how Mazzagatti is at fault for the Jones vs Hammill decision.
We just saw Aljamain win a fight by DQ (a title fight, no less) because his opponent hit him with an illegal strike and he couldn't continue. He was likely losing up until that point too. Many MMA journalists have applauded this, even if fans didn't, because Yan's knee was illegal and it's on Yan to know the rules. How is the Jones situation any different? Just because we think the 12-6 elbow rule is stupid doesn't mean Mazzagatti overstepped by enforcing the rules.
I think it's mainly because the elbows jon threw weren't the cause of matt not being able to continue. Matt was already beaten up badly and had a dislocated shoulder from the take down.
@@lukeaspland9500 Plus Mazzagatti made a bone-headed decision to ask if Matt Hamill was okay, when he should have known Matt was deaf and could not hear him.
@@lukeaspland9500 If the fighter was already battered then the other fighter should get in even more trouble for knowingly throwing several blatantly illegal strikes. When someone cheats it doesn't matter if they would've won anyways or had already one, you still punish them and disqualify them for cheating in the first place. "That's not fair." No it's not, just how the cheating party wanted it.
LOL This isn't comparable to Yan/Sterling 1 at all. Jones incapacitated Hamill by separating his shoulder with the throw, then he hit him with a couple dozen legal strikes before the 12-6 landed. Hamill was already done, and borderline fouls happen in finishing flurries all the time. I didn't have an issue with the DQ until Mazzagatti came out and said that Jones hadn't really done anything to hurt Hamill until the last two elbows. Dude is a shitty ref that loses focus during fights.
@@marlock6573 Mazzagatti is the consensus worst ref in MMA history. There's a reason he's not reffing fight anymore.
You guys had an awesome live stream last weekend. I found by accident but will be tuning in from now on. Great play-by-play mixed with commentary and it was cool to see Marc Goddard in the studio.
Top 10 Fighters who actually earned their Ringnames and live up to it
Bisping was not knocked out by Silva. He spoke to herb as soon as he the floor. Also if no one is familiar Matt Hamill dislocated his Shoulder in the Takedown and was unable to continue!
Dan Miragliotta during Cyril Gane vs Derrick Lewis. Lewis kept droping his mouthguard to stall for time and he did it again in the final minute of the fight when Gane was wobbling him. Dan actually stopped Cyril's rush and gave Lewis his mouthguard and extra time to recover. Dirty imo.
Herb not stopping bisping vs Silva after the knee is not a fk up
Please don’t ever stop making videos, if you guys do I will cry. Don’t make me cry. 😔😔
awww.... Well you got to make the vids now mma on point!
I’ll say it. I want Tommy toehold for every video.
That's gross
You guys have great writers! The “he looks like a sad vampire from true blood” line is genius 😂👌
Seriously shocked Mario Yamasaki didn't make an appearance
I agree with Goddard though (I assume from the video, haven't seen the actual fight). "Laying and praying" isn't "Fighting", it's just running out the clock. Fighting is working towards a finish. "Laying and praying" is just "Restraining".
ahhh the good ol struggle snuggle...can't complain about it though or the "purists" get all "i was a purple belt, you don't know fighting" ehhh...i know it don't look like a sleeping contest...and i know that shits not worth a ticket but ok lol
Bisping certainly wasnt out bro, he was sitting upright and covering his head
He's also immediately talking to herb after the buzzer
@@lochiex1 ya but he lost a eye which is a bitch move
Exactly. I don't even know why he would list that fight. Herb Dean made the right call. Silva is the one who started acting like a complete jacka** even though the ref at no point in time, waved off the fight.
@@one0onelion248 it was listed here because of Herb's actions, but there's no doubt about that Michael was never been out after that knee. if he was out he won't have a chitchat with Herb after that brutal knee he took that change the tide of the fight in favor of Silva.
Scrolling to see if anyone has said this. Bisping most definitely was not out!
I completely disagree with what you said about the yellow card rule. I would love if they brought that into the UFC and up minimum wage. At the end of the day, fans in the arena and fans at home, are paying to see a fight, and Francis Ngannou vs Derrick Lewis was an embarrassment to the sport. And anybody who paid for that specific fight, should get their money back. Imagine paying somebody to clean your house only to find out they barely washed the dishes. You wouldn't turn around and say "that cleaner needs to get paid more". 99.9% of people know what a fight should look like, the average Joe who buys a plane ticket to travel, to see a fight that has like a 90% chance of finishing by K.O. And only seeing 2 significant strikes landed in 15-minutes, should at least get a discount on you ticket. But if the UFC give fighters so many bonuses for knockouts and spectacular performances, they should deduct money, for having literally a non fight.
I still dont understand why people shit on Maz for the Jones-Hammil call. A HUGE problem in MMA is refs not enforcing the rules and just letting the fighters get away with 20 eye pokes, 10 low blows, 7 cage grabs, etc every fight. What Jon did was illegal and what led to the fight being stopped, pretty simple.
Goddard during Cormier-Miocic III. Stipe eye pokes DC at the end of rd. 2, DC complains, Goddard replies 'It was a punch Daniel. Sit down'.
Goddard talked down to him like you would a child. Reminder that Anik also had a public spat with Goddard where he accused him of talking to the fighters condescendingly. That along with the Usman-Woodley incident shows what Goddard must be like backstage
Goddard is a piece of crap. He gets noticeably upset when the fighters are getting more attention than him, so pretty much always. The bias in the Colby Usman first fight was ridiculous too.
While goddard has an ego. Cormier is king of the eye-pokes. Any he receives is due to him 10-fold.
@@jonh8790 yuuuup! Shit last cormier fight i saw there was like, three timeouts called for eye pokes alone. No points deducted though *stares at big dan*
That russian ref is a legend. Yeah it was overkill but damn talk about stamping your authority
Not even really overkill, he handled it quickly and effectively considering he was a good bit smaller than the fighter and nobody was trying to help him
Yes a legendary POS who is extremely unprofessional little man and unable to tuck his ego. The fighter was out and confused it’s not like he got attacked by a fully conscious man
you didnt mention in the bisping vs silva fight, that the bell rang right after the knee. so ... there is also the aspect that he was saved by it and michael had time to recover. you often see in high stakes fight that the ref allow the fight to go on "longer than it should" to give the fighter at least a chance to come back (congo vs barry comes to mind. could he have stopped way earlier? no doubt. are we glad he didnt? absolutely. one of the sickest comebacks in the history). if the round would go on longer and silva would decide to follow up on his knee, michael would be most likely out. mike himself didnt sugarcoat it and said he absolutely was saved by the bell.
Bisping was winning the fight upto the knee
@@joshthemigpro1733 he even dropped Silva as well a round before, as far as knockdowns go they were even
@@kingt0295 I know I watched it
@@joshthemigpro1733 that’s crazy mate so did I 🤜🤛
Number 1 was a fine way to stop a fight.
Top 10 Fighters with the most Blackbelts in different Disciplines
Last one was hardly an overreach. Guy was being attacked and he stopped his attacker.
agreed
That last Russian Ref was so disgusting
Acting like he was defending himself.
The smug look on his face makes it worse!!
Weirder to me is that his corner didn't jump in to save him. They were just like, whatever he deserves it
@@Dukeflyhawker that’s so bad from people who claim they are on your side... damn slow corner
I love how an MMA you put your guard down for the slightest second you fly need in the face
Bisping was not unconscious in his fight with Silva.
I like the idea of taking points honestly if a guy is clowning in the ring. Maybe Anderson silva would have done more against Damian Mia. But in general point deductions are underutilized. Cage holding, shorts holding, eyepokes, cheap shots. All could use points being docked. Jones might have lost a fight or 2 if his rampant exploitation of the eye poke was deducted every time
Pride red cards were the best.
Everyone knows what they're there to do. When guys are timid it's kind of dishonorable. I like the idea of red card penalties
@@hashvendetta7226 weren't they yellow cards?
@@jazzabighits4473 were they yellow cards? You might be right. Regardless, I still like that idea.
Even though there aren't a huge number of guys who stall or only wait for counters right now.
I think one of the fights that really cemented it for me was bader vs machida of all things.
I was a big machida fan, but watching that one made me feel bad for ryan. Machida was perfectly content with waiting for bader just to wade in throwing so he could counter him. Ryan did the right thing and tried to stalemate him by also waiting. The crowd furiously booed until bader got frustrated and just stupidly ran in swingin and it was over. I'm not sayin he would have even come close to winning that fight, but I could at least see that he felt bad that the fans were booing them. Lyoto didn't give a shit and was perfectly fine letting them boo and forcing his opponent to come to him.
Yellow cards, in my opinion would level the field in situations like that.
@@hashvendetta7226 Oh the video said yellow cards. I agree with you 100% tho
Anybody else pissed that they didn’t just show the footage from each one of these fights and each situation instead we get B roll footage from fucking movies like they showed a completely different flying knee for the Michael Bisping and Silva fight 😂😂 by the way you showed the Halloween one twice. Shit video making really do better
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It's tough being a ref they dont get enough credit. Even the top tier refs mess up from time to time.
Herb has made some bad calls but I still think he’s one of the best in the biz
I like the DQ loss for Jon
You should know the rules as an elite fighter
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I couldn't imagine being in the ring with these absolute legends. Goodness gracious
Interesting take. Honestly the Russian ref didn’t do anything completely weird in MMA standards. I mean, MMA artist joke that being put in a choke unconscious isn’t “that bad”. So how was that overreaching? Even in UA-cam Mixed martial artist choke other people for fun all the time 🤔