The thing is that The Boys treats superheroes as celebrities while My Hero Acedamia treats superheroes as role models. In The Boys it portrays superheroes as fake and two faced, only caring on popularity. In Mha that popularity problem still exists but it's emphasizes that inspiring the public to be good people and use their quirks to the benefit of society is also as important (a good example is all might)... It's basically that The Boys bases it's self out of capitalistic America while MHA bases it's self upon the controlling Japan.
@@lobstermagnetreview I think the ranking in BNHA is exist as a merit system to encourage heroes to done good deeds more. Japan has more control government in nature so heroes in BNHA are more of 'public servants' than a 'coporate celebs'. Even heroes agencies in BNHA are regulate and sanction by the governments. It's show how different Japan run things compare to US.
@@ZetsubouGintama also the heroes in the boys are owned by a corporation while in mha they're owned by the government and more like police officers. That's a huge difference, since the boys heroes are meant to be products while mha they're actually meant to help people.
I think the middle ground is that Hero Society at the start of the show was in a calm and peaceful time when crime was at a major low. People could relax and Pro Heroes weren’t spending all of their time fighting Villains. A celebrity culture grows given how prominent Pro Heroes are. Luckily the system was already designed long before the rise of this celebrity culture. The first heroes were vigilantes until laws were passed to regulate Quirks. All For One was also dominating for a long time to the point there was even an active resistance against the guy. Pro Heroes were public servants first with the celebrity stuff coming afterwards. Of course many heroes after the Paranormal Liberation War walked out because they saw the job as being too hard, but many Heroes still stay to keep up the fight.
I'd only see it working by having The Seven from the boys go up against the League of Villains (Perhaps even the Paranormal Liberation Front, but to be honest, that movement wouldn't exist to begin with in the boys universe since the supes get to use their powers however they want).
The core difference between MHA(despite its terminal flaws) and The Boys, is that MHA comes from a place of at least some reverence towards the idea of Superheroes, while The Boys comes from a place of despising it. Overall, I feel like Invincible does a better job than either or both at being critical at as well as positive with the genre.
invincible isn't really critical, its just a classic hero story put in a dark world, that's what makes it so good, its spider-man but he's in the boys world and is constantly getting ripped apart. Invincible and mha both come from a place of love.
I would say that My Hero Academia handles the Super Human Society better because it's an actual super human society, The Boys just has super humans in a debatably nihilistic distortion of our current society instead of of a society build with super humans it's super humans forced to fit our own and it might play out, like trying on a pair pants without anything in the pockets and it's perfectly passible and now then to find a place for your cellphone and wallet and not resort to handbag of some sort, because it makes the area across the crotch too tight. MHA is like a building constructed from the foundation up, The Boys is like adding a deck to the back of an established house with out having measured the area of the back yard.
funny you should mention that Check out Uber. It's one of my favorite comics. Done a few videos talking about it. So if you want a primer on what that series is all about try my video.
In a realistic super hero world, society would go back rule of the strongest like it was in tribal times when raw human strength could make a big difference in the (back then) small battle field. Super hero powers means once again one person can make an outsize difference. Ie one person has relatively A LOT of power compared to the entire society. What happened then would happen again. They'd become the ruling class and Nobility. They'd marry among themselves because having super powers would become an identity. Also because they want to maintain their power like powerful families in our world do. People would form states around the top tier world destroying super humans. Lesser heroes will pledge themselves to these top tier super humans and normal people will be either like serfs or pets. The idea that say anyone would force say a Super Man or Green Lantern or Flash to do *anything* is ridiculous in the face of it. Oh, expect a lot of infanticide too. After a super human grows up and causes world changing destruction, many societies will start killing any children with any hint of super powers. Ps: Same goes for fantasy worlds with powerful magic users. Realistically they'd gravitate to the top of society and form a ruling class. Honestly there are so many ways a society with super heroes would change. Thinking about it makes you realize how completely shallow the world's of DC and Marvel are. Even Manga do it way better.
@@MA-go7ee the problem with dc and marvel is how they don't really focus on worldbuilding and how heroes and villains would fundamentally change the world. You'd imagine that with the JL heroes would become incredibly organized and would become like a job, with other countries having their own heroes as well, and organized villain crime, with heroes and villains clashing on streets being a regular occurrence, and heroes like superman being major celebrity figures.
I love world building videos. The perspective is fascinating. I love modern Superheroes telling, even tho I enjoy a balance of traditional Superhero stories and critical/interesting takes. Wonder what a world building video about Mario’s and Sonic(Composite)’s would be like? 😂
pfhahahahahaahahaha oh goddddd. That'd be an intersting video to try and do seriously. Because Nintendo doesn't really give a shit about world building mario games. I think they prototype ideas and gameplay then just slap the story onto that. Sonic has no consistancy what-so-ever. But I think you bring up an intersting point about lore for platforming games in general.
When will we get a story about a human as powerful as Superman who only uses their powers to maintain their own needs; grow their own food on the spot, build own house, etc. and quite literally just absolutely ignores a coexisting slowly destabilizing human society
Manga's getting really interesting. It's gonna be wild to think of how much stuff will have changed by the time we get to season 6. Who knows maybe we'll be seeing the final battle being drawn.
I really liked this video! Not saying "Oh this one is better" but instead using the contrast to create an interesting, insightful discussion that enhances both. It's nice to see a video that for once looks at mha like a superhero comic instead of just a shonen manga.
I have a headcannon that "The Boys" is a propaganda series made by the League Of Villains in the MHA universe as an attempt to scare ordinary people into joining them
@@lobstermagnetreview I mean, any corruption in the BNHA universe pales in comparison to every hero being a psychotic and tyrannical mass murder but I'm pretty sure this is how the LOV sees heroes
@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 Oh yeah it's 100% shigaraki's world view as well as spinners. That's what makes the League such fun little edgelords. They just want their freedom and as far as their concerned supes are mostly hypocritical tools of the state meant to hold them down.
@@lobstermagnetreview Yeah, supes are tools of the state in MHA and the LOV aren't wrong about everything but the main difference is that most of the heroes in MHA actually have a passion for helping people and saving lives, even the ones who care a lot about the attention that they get and the ones with huge egos and that the general public tends to care a lot if they fail in a mission or kill someone and that it's never made canonical that they aren't liable for people they accidentally kill as collateral damage(I'm pretty sure the scenes of them trying to get people to safety during big battles implies that they can't kill people and get away with it)
@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 I'd be interesting for the series to explore the darker ramifications of what happens when they fail at their respective jobs. Lol that's what we need is a spin off that looks at all the legal paper work that goes into keeping the super human society working together. Love extra details like the MHA version of the KKK seen in My Villain manga be intersting to see more of that explored but probably won't since series is reaching its end
I think in terms of handling a superhero society MHA is certainly better. The thing that I like so much about gentle's backstory(and also other villains) is that for me at least I can't even blame the system in mha. Despite all his heart gentle was a very incompetent person. Also I don't particularly find it problematic that Heroes like midnight and mountain lady want fame and money, as long as they do their job properly. So for me at least mha raises some interesting question without blaming anybody even the system.
Gentle's case is very intersting because it's the story of a guy who wants something so badly, but just doesn't have the talent or competancy to achieve it. Like a guy who wants to be a fire fighter but can't pass the fitness test.
Here's the difference though. The heroes in BNHA who became pro heroes for the fame and for money don't also kill a lot of people. Not only that, but we never really see heroes killing anyone as collateral damage in BNHA. There were some instances of the nomus killing innocent bystanders but not the heroes.
@@grimmus5505 It was extremally tragic and sad but they explicitly showed that Hawks did that in self defense as Hawks was attacking him, after Hawks gave him many warnings to back down
5:57 I feel like a human version of this would be where approved people are allowed to use there potential while people who don’t have a license are forbidden from using there potential.
I do like MHA’s take on Superhero society but... The Boys can get away with not expanding on their world building because how close they are to us. MHA is a lot further, centuries of history with superpowers, which makes the current perception of its world building come off as incomplete.
The interesting thing about MHA is that we don't really know when it takes place. It's in the future but we never get a specific date. If I had to guess maybe 80 years in the future.
@@lobstermagnetreview We don't get a specific date BUT we do have a single character whose age is a very good marker.... Dr Garaki whose quirk is Life Force which doubles his life span. He said he was 120+ years old, and he has worked with AFO since he was at least 30, since that is when he faked his death
I'd argue that's the reason why I think MHA is the best superhero show. Unlike supe shows where current major world events are somehow the same (when superheroes should *radically* change things), MHA is set in a whole new setting where Horikoshi can pretty much build his world in peace without worrying about too much politics.
9:34 this was the point that made me realize a lot of super hero media is practically copaganda. you word for word described the current state of the us police and most likely police from most other countries. People with access to inhuman power exerting and abusing it for personal gain and to protect the government and private companies with little to no concequence or regulation. I wonder why that sounds so familiar XD
Zayan Sayed I think you need to lay of the breadtube, seeing how they have proven that they can be just as (if not more) corrupt then the people they critic. The police aren't perfect but the way your describing them here sounds like anti copaganda which can be just as bad as copaganda.
LET'S HERE IT FOR THE BOYYYYYS! Love that show. I'm a fan of anything that takes the kid gloves off and gets down to how dark and gritty things would probably get. People can't get promotions without turning into egomaniacs. Now imagine that douche with heat vision. MHA is better at the creator's imagined society but The Boys is an awesome reflection of our deeply flawed society that is still somehow worth saving.
Yooo barriiii hope everything is going good for you down south. Especially with your titan baby. Glad to hear you enjoyed this video nice to see you got some time to check out my back log!!!!
@@lobstermagnetreview Yes! All is well. Still adjusting to the slow pace down here. I realized it's been too long since I checked in. Gonna watch em ALL!
In the MHA world, all of Homelanders fellow supes would have immediately stood against him after he destroyed that plane full of people. Most of them follow the law very strictly and try not to kill(All Might never killed OFA for example)
I do find it intresting that this a couple of days right after the latest MHA chapter came out which welll...went to some places MASSIVE SPOILERS The reveal that the Hero Socety is much more corrupt then even the readers previously thought with the Hero Safety Comission manipulating children like Lady Nagent and Hawks into becoming lapdogs for the goverment with Lady Nagant in particular murdering quite a few in the name of the Hero Society
@@lobstermagnetreview One of the dark things of MHA, The Boys and, to a much lesser extent, One Punch Man is that to some the image of super heroes is the most important thing. When image is more important then anything else, that's just asking for disaster.
I think we should make a superhero show that doesn't have a main character but instead each episode is about a different hero and different parts of superhuman society.
I think that if the characters from MHA somehow ended up in the world of The Boys…oh would that be fascinating to see. I mean, most of the characters in MHA are teenagers, and their minds haven’t been as fully developed yet, so they could be easily manipulated and taken advantage of by the Seven, ESPECIALLY Homelander. And oh god, what if he is in a room with Uraka? That just makes me sick to think about it. Those poor kids would be heavily traumatized by the events in the world of The Boys…and would be in for a horrible wake up call for those involved. Also, I could just imagine Vought taking over the Japanese government and getting rid of the League, and then forcing the kids to do their bidding.
Okay, what if UA Students ended up in the world of The Boys? Well, most of them are going to react a bit like Starlight and the characters from Gen V, shocked at what’s going on behind the scenes. Those with more abrasive and arrogant attitudes could be lulled in, though luckily they would have their classmates to keep things in perspective. The bolder students who have a strong sense of justice might try to expose the truth, but if this is in the earlier seasons, they probably would get slaughtered by Homelander and the Seven. If it’s in the later seasons, the students would put up a better fight though only a handful of them would actually be able to take on Homelander. I expect they would emerge grateful their Hero Society is nowhere near as depraved, but they would be cautious to ensure things never slide down to such horrible extents.
yeah. I messed up last night. Was supposed to go out today and the version that went live was an older version of the video that was missing the outro. So here's official finished version as it was meant to be seen.
I feel like The Boys TV series writes it's Superheroes much better than MHA because it has a consistent and clear view of how it's gonna portray it's Superheroes by showing them as being corrupt, hedonistic and egotistical thanks to how they are treated as celebrities and corporate products who can get away with crimes thanks to the PR machine of Vought who are desperate to keep their heroes image clean to ensure they keep on being profitable. With MHA it seriously feels like they have no idea of how it's heroes are gonna be like? On one hand they are supposed to be role models and heroes of justice, on the other hand we get characters like Stain who criticizes many of these pro-heroes for being "fake" who only becomes one for selfish reasons like fame, wealth and power which would be interesting to explore the corruption of hero society, yet nothing comes out of it with Endeavor, symbol of everything a hero should NEVER be, gets an atrociously contrived "redemption" arc that comes from nowhere and Stain's entire character purpose gets quickly forgotten, as if it was completely pointless. Then there is also the fact that it's hero system is beyond flawed and broken thanks to bad writing. First example would be how genuinely good people like Koichi can never become heroes unless they get very contrived and needlessly complicated reasons to even have a chance of being one while villains like Number 6 can get a hero license super casually without any inconvenience that makes the so called "heroes" look grossly incompetent and outright idiotic. Second example is how the supposed "requirements" to be a hero is inconsistent. Quirkless people can't be heroes because "it's too dangerous" even though there are a solid amount of heroes with quirks that range from weak to completely useless as well as the fact that based on the physical feats and skills of Stain alongside the advanced technology of MHA similar to Marvel and DC a quirkless person with great physical training, martial arts, weapons and gadgets would be much better than a lot of heroes and fight evenly those who have somewhat strong quirks thanks to their skills and versatility compared to those who rely entirely on one single superpower with specific ability and varying levels of strengths and weaknesses. We also see how guys like Shinso failed to get into UA hero course because his quirk was ineffective against robots which not only raises the question of how some students like Toru, Kouda and Mirio became hero students despite their quirks but also why Shinso just didn't apply to another hero school that doesn't have the absurd "destroy robots" as part of the entrance exams? This is what happens when you try to write Superheroes without any solid vision and foundations for how they are gonna function properly.
The boys is a bit more clear in it's intent while My Hero is more a of a love letter to american super hero tropes. I just think there interesting to compare since they provide radically different views of what the super human society looks like.
@@lobstermagnetreview I find it particularly weird that MHA is a "love" letter to American Superhero tropes when there are some it either refuses to use or even actually belittle and that would be the non-power Superhero trope that is common in Superhero media. In the first chapter All Might says to Deku that he can't be a hero because it's "dangerous for quirkless people" which would be fine if it wasn't for how this message gets ruined by three facts. First is that MHA, just like other Superhero works, features people capable of great physical feats and abilities when training body to peak condition with Stain being a great example, proving to be a great threat with that alongside being a great weapon user and having a quirk that can be substituted with poison without much issue. Second is that technology of MHA is similar to other Superhero works where the potential to create gadgets and other sorts of tech weapons to help fight against foes with a superpower is there given how the series has robots for goodness sake. Third is that while there are some powerful heroes that a badass normal person would have a hard time defeating there are plenty of heroes with quirks that have weak combat capabilities, have weaknesses that can be exploited or in some cases are downright useless for fighting, making me wonder what on earth All Might was smoking when he said that? It's weird because a quirkless person with great physical training, martial arts, gadgets and weapons have more versatility than almost all quirk users due to how it's only one specific superpower with varying levels of strengths and weaknesses. The fact that Hori writes that "quirkless people can't be heroes because it's dangerous" despite all sorts of Superhero media featuring heroes without powers going toe to toe and defeating meta-humans and those with powers with all the skills i mentioned above makes me wonder what the hell went through his mind with the "love letter" he has for American Superhero tropes when he confusingly disrespects one? Also while both provide different views in Superhuman societies with The Boys it feels logical and consistent that has a purpose to it while with MHA it's so jarring, confusing, contradictory and flat out illogical that it breaks all believability in the series and makes the world and characters of MHA feel fake and artificial.
I think that what does best The Boys And In my opinion does better than My Hero Academia Is that Yes, If in real life Superman knock off lasered a bunch of civilians in a third world country I assure you there will be a debate about wheater this is good or not Mostly because it started as a satire but now it looks like a total reflection of our modern world I mean Just log into Twitter and see how people actually defend horrible human actions or people who did unforgivable things The Boys just puts all the blame in fictional Company (Vought) for plot convinience But in real life Things would be as hell as complicated Social media would be full of super hero stuff If we are already jumping at eachothers throats for celebrity drama Imagine if Andrew Thate could fly Get what I mean?
In the BNHA world, you can't become a hero unless you go through years of brutal training so I highly doubt Homelander would be like this if he became a hero by being a kid with a quirk passing the hero course
Homelander is not nearly tough enough to win that fight. Deku, Todoroki, Bakugo, Tokoyami, Kirishima, and Jiro are all strong enough to beat Homelander without any help.
Our egalitarian values will disappear like smoke, since it would be impossible to see all humans as equals when there are clearly superhumans who have a greater capacity for violence and more usability for society. Normal humans would depend on the good will of superhumans, there may be some who believe in treating normal people with dignity and respect, but there will be many who will see it as an opportunity to commit abuse.
I would say i think MHA is much more nuanced and better balanced however some characters of the Boys like Soilder Boy make the show worth watching. I also think there is more Balance in the MHA universe where even the villains have quirks and powers so the Supes have to do their job vis a vis The Boys where they have unchecked power.
How is the MHA government structure a Randian nightmare? The Libertarian position would be with the Meta Liberation Army's stance of deregulated quirk use, not the license restrictions of the government.
you just answered your own question. Ann Rand would hate the idea of quirk regulation and licenses regulated by the government. Basically allowing who can be great and who cannot. The ultimate libertarian fantasy of unregulated quirk use is what the Meta Liberation Army is fighting for.
@@lobstermagnetreview fair, I was interpreting you saying randian knightmare as a dystopia based on Rand's worldview rather than something she would have opposed. My bad
The thing is that The Boys treats superheroes as celebrities while My Hero Acedamia treats superheroes as role models.
In The Boys it portrays superheroes as fake and two faced, only caring on popularity.
In Mha that popularity problem still exists but it's emphasizes that inspiring the public to be good people and use their quirks to the benefit of society is also as important (a good example is all might)...
It's basically that The Boys bases it's self out of capitalistic America while MHA bases it's self upon the controlling Japan.
true but remember in MHA superheroes are also celebrities who are also ranked in terms of popularity.
@@lobstermagnetreview I think the ranking in BNHA is exist as a merit system to encourage heroes to done good deeds more. Japan has more control government in nature so heroes in BNHA are more of 'public servants' than a 'coporate celebs'. Even heroes agencies in BNHA are regulate and sanction by the governments. It's show how different Japan run things compare to US.
@@ZetsubouGintama also the heroes in the boys are owned by a corporation while in mha they're owned by the government and more like police officers. That's a huge difference, since the boys heroes are meant to be products while mha they're actually meant to help people.
No, they're also celebrities in BNHA, it's just that they're portrayed as being more realistically flawed rather then being portrayed as monsters.
I think the middle ground is that Hero Society at the start of the show was in a calm and peaceful time when crime was at a major low. People could relax and Pro Heroes weren’t spending all of their time fighting Villains. A celebrity culture grows given how prominent Pro Heroes are. Luckily the system was already designed long before the rise of this celebrity culture. The first heroes were vigilantes until laws were passed to regulate Quirks. All For One was also dominating for a long time to the point there was even an active resistance against the guy. Pro Heroes were public servants first with the celebrity stuff coming afterwards. Of course many heroes after the Paranormal Liberation War walked out because they saw the job as being too hard, but many Heroes still stay to keep up the fight.
It's official, I want a My Hero Academia & The Boys Crossover.
I'd only see it working by having The Seven from the boys go up against the League of Villains (Perhaps even the Paranormal Liberation Front, but to be honest, that movement wouldn't exist to begin with in the boys universe since the supes get to use their powers however they want).
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO YOU PUT HOMELANDER IN A SCENE WITH CREATI
my hero academia is too wholesome
and probably won't keep up with the boys
I can only imagine the type of collateral damage with quirks.
@@mr.vansjohnson7469the only valid reply so far
The core difference between MHA(despite its terminal flaws) and The Boys, is that MHA comes from a place of at least some reverence towards the idea of Superheroes, while The Boys comes from a place of despising it.
Overall, I feel like Invincible does a better job than either or both at being critical at as well as positive with the genre.
invincible isn't really critical, its just a classic hero story put in a dark world, that's what makes it so good, its spider-man but he's in the boys world and is constantly getting ripped apart.
Invincible and mha both come from a place of love.
I would say that My Hero Academia handles the Super Human Society better because it's an actual super human society, The Boys just has super humans in a debatably nihilistic distortion of our current society instead of of a society build with super humans it's super humans forced to fit our own and it might play out, like trying on a pair pants without anything in the pockets and it's perfectly passible and now then to find a place for your cellphone and wallet and not resort to handbag of some sort, because it makes the area across the crotch too tight. MHA is like a building constructed from the foundation up, The Boys is like adding a deck to the back of an established house with out having measured the area of the back yard.
PFHAHAHAHAHAHAAH Oh man I love the construction analogy.
This is the best analogy of almost every superhero franchise ever.
I always want to see a story about superheroes forced to become soldiers in the military
funny you should mention that Check out Uber. It's one of my favorite comics. Done a few videos talking about it. So if you want a primer on what that series is all about try my video.
@@lobstermagnetreview I watch You video it's really good I'm going to check it out thank you
@@TheMattsem I'll make it one step easier for you.
In a realistic super hero world, society would go back rule of the strongest like it was in tribal times when raw human strength could make a big difference in the (back then) small battle field.
Super hero powers means once again one person can make an outsize difference. Ie one person has relatively A LOT of power compared to the entire society.
What happened then would happen again. They'd become the ruling class and Nobility. They'd marry among themselves because having super powers would become an identity. Also because they want to maintain their power like powerful families in our world do. People would form states around the top tier world destroying super humans. Lesser heroes will pledge themselves to these top tier super humans and normal people will be either like serfs or pets.
The idea that say anyone would force say a Super Man or Green Lantern or Flash to do *anything* is ridiculous in the face of it.
Oh, expect a lot of infanticide too. After a super human grows up and causes world changing destruction, many societies will start killing any children with any hint of super powers.
Ps: Same goes for fantasy worlds with powerful magic users. Realistically they'd gravitate to the top of society and form a ruling class.
Honestly there are so many ways a society with super heroes would change. Thinking about it makes you realize how completely shallow the world's of DC and Marvel are. Even Manga do it way better.
@@MA-go7ee the problem with dc and marvel is how they don't really focus on worldbuilding and how heroes and villains would fundamentally change the world.
You'd imagine that with the JL heroes would become incredibly organized and would become like a job, with other countries having their own heroes as well, and organized villain crime, with heroes and villains clashing on streets being a regular occurrence, and heroes like superman being major celebrity figures.
I love world building videos. The perspective is fascinating. I love modern Superheroes telling, even tho I enjoy a balance of traditional Superhero stories and critical/interesting takes.
Wonder what a world building video about Mario’s and Sonic(Composite)’s would be like? 😂
pfhahahahahaahahaha oh goddddd. That'd be an intersting video to try and do seriously. Because Nintendo doesn't really give a shit about world building mario games. I think they prototype ideas and gameplay then just slap the story onto that. Sonic has no consistancy what-so-ever. But I think you bring up an intersting point about lore for platforming games in general.
When will we get a story about a human as powerful as Superman who only uses their powers to maintain their own needs; grow their own food on the spot, build own house, etc. and quite literally just absolutely ignores a coexisting slowly destabilizing human society
It can be titled "Missed the Part Where That's My Problem."
@@red_five3325 my thoughts exactly
Funny enough, Alan Moore would end up regretting making watchmen
Think he regrets most of his comic work at this point.
No, he regret making the killing joke
It's been a crazy month for MHA and a pretty great month for your channel, lookint forward to the madness that will be the next MH month!
Manga's getting really interesting. It's gonna be wild to think of how much stuff will have changed by the time we get to season 6. Who knows maybe we'll be seeing the final battle being drawn.
I really liked this video! Not saying "Oh this one is better" but instead using the contrast to create an interesting, insightful discussion that enhances both. It's nice to see a video that for once looks at mha like a superhero comic instead of just a shonen manga.
thx man glad to hear you enjoyed it always love it when people leave comments on older videos. Make all the work worthwhile.
I have a headcannon that "The Boys" is a propaganda series made by the League Of Villains in the MHA universe as an attempt to scare ordinary people into joining them
Pfhahahaahahahaha I love that head cannon now. Can't escape it.
@@lobstermagnetreview I mean, any corruption in the BNHA universe pales in comparison to every hero being a psychotic and tyrannical mass murder but I'm pretty sure this is how the LOV sees heroes
@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 Oh yeah it's 100% shigaraki's world view as well as spinners. That's what makes the League such fun little edgelords. They just want their freedom and as far as their concerned supes are mostly hypocritical tools of the state meant to hold them down.
@@lobstermagnetreview Yeah, supes are tools of the state in MHA and the LOV aren't wrong about everything but the main difference is that most of the heroes in MHA actually have a passion for helping people and saving lives, even the ones who care a lot about the attention that they get and the ones with huge egos and that the general public tends to care a lot if they fail in a mission or kill someone and that it's never made canonical that they aren't liable for people they accidentally kill as collateral damage(I'm pretty sure the scenes of them trying to get people to safety during big battles implies that they can't kill people and get away with it)
@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 I'd be interesting for the series to explore the darker ramifications of what happens when they fail at their respective jobs. Lol that's what we need is a spin off that looks at all the legal paper work that goes into keeping the super human society working together. Love extra details like the MHA version of the KKK seen in My Villain manga be intersting to see more of that explored but probably won't since series is reaching its end
I think in terms of handling a superhero society MHA is certainly better. The thing that I like so much about gentle's backstory(and also other villains) is that for me at least I can't even blame the system in mha. Despite all his heart gentle was a very incompetent person. Also I don't particularly find it problematic that Heroes like midnight and mountain lady want fame and money, as long as they do their job properly. So for me at least mha raises some interesting question without blaming anybody even the system.
Gentle's case is very intersting because it's the story of a guy who wants something so badly, but just doesn't have the talent or competancy to achieve it. Like a guy who wants to be a fire fighter but can't pass the fitness test.
Here's the difference though. The heroes in BNHA who became pro heroes for the fame and for money don't also kill a lot of people. Not only that, but we never really see heroes killing anyone as collateral damage in BNHA. There were some instances of the nomus killing innocent bystanders but not the heroes.
@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769i wonder how you reacted to twices death
@@grimmus5505 It was extremally tragic and sad but they explicitly showed that Hawks did that in self defense as Hawks was attacking him, after Hawks gave him many warnings to back down
5:57 I feel like a human version of this would be where approved people are allowed to use there potential while people who don’t have a license are forbidden from using there potential.
I do like MHA’s take on Superhero society but... The Boys can get away with not expanding on their world building because how close they are to us. MHA is a lot further, centuries of history with superpowers, which makes the current perception of its world building come off as incomplete.
The interesting thing about MHA is that we don't really know when it takes place. It's in the future but we never get a specific date. If I had to guess maybe 80 years in the future.
@@lobstermagnetreview We don't get a specific date BUT we do have a single character whose age is a very good marker.... Dr Garaki whose quirk is Life Force which doubles his life span. He said he was 120+ years old, and he has worked with AFO since he was at least 30, since that is when he faked his death
I'd argue that's the reason why I think MHA is the best superhero show. Unlike supe shows where current major world events are somehow the same (when superheroes should *radically* change things), MHA is set in a whole new setting where Horikoshi can pretty much build his world in peace without worrying about too much politics.
@@imgvillasrc1608 yeah, I wish things like dc showed a more organized version of heroes who fundamentally change the world.
9:34 this was the point that made me realize a lot of super hero media is practically copaganda. you word for word described the current state of the us police and most likely police from most other countries. People with access to inhuman power exerting and abusing it for personal gain and to protect the government and private companies with little to no concequence or regulation. I wonder why that sounds so familiar XD
That’s pretty much the entire point of Alan Moore super hero writing career. The superhero fantasy is usually a fascist one.
Zayan Sayed I think you need to lay of the breadtube, seeing how they have proven that they can be just as (if not more) corrupt then the people they critic. The police aren't perfect but the way your describing them here sounds like anti copaganda which can be just as bad as copaganda.
LET'S HERE IT FOR THE BOYYYYYS! Love that show. I'm a fan of anything that takes the kid gloves off and gets down to how dark and gritty things would probably get. People can't get promotions without turning into egomaniacs. Now imagine that douche with heat vision. MHA is better at the creator's imagined society but The Boys is an awesome reflection of our deeply flawed society that is still somehow worth saving.
Yooo barriiii hope everything is going good for you down south. Especially with your titan baby. Glad to hear you enjoyed this video nice to see you got some time to check out my back log!!!!
@@lobstermagnetreview Yes! All is well. Still adjusting to the slow pace down here. I realized it's been too long since I checked in. Gonna watch em ALL!
Awww yeah leave a comment love reading your reactions.
In the MHA world, all of Homelanders fellow supes would have immediately stood against him after he destroyed that plane full of people. Most of them follow the law very strictly and try not to kill(All Might never killed OFA for example)
Excelent video man, i love both series but ironically The Boys fandom is not nearly as toxic
It’s older sure that has a lot to do with it but give it time.
I do find it intresting that this a couple of days right after the latest MHA chapter came out which welll...went to some places
MASSIVE SPOILERS
The reveal that the Hero Socety is much more corrupt then even the readers previously thought with the Hero Safety Comission manipulating children like Lady Nagent and Hawks into becoming lapdogs for the goverment with Lady Nagant in particular murdering quite a few in the name of the Hero Society
it was good timing but I wrote this and made the video before those chapters hit, but puts another face on the darker elements of the hero world.
@@lobstermagnetreview One of the dark things of MHA, The Boys and, to a much lesser extent, One Punch Man is that to some the image of super heroes is the most important thing. When image is more important then anything else, that's just asking for disaster.
Shame they didn't expand upon it
I think we should make a superhero show that doesn't have a main character but instead each episode is about a different hero and different parts of superhuman society.
you mean a show?
@@lobstermagnetreview yeah I just noticed that hang on
I think that if the characters from MHA somehow ended up in the world of The Boys…oh would that be fascinating to see.
I mean, most of the characters in MHA are teenagers, and their minds haven’t been as fully developed yet, so they could be easily manipulated and taken advantage of by the Seven, ESPECIALLY Homelander. And oh god, what if he is in a room with Uraka? That just makes me sick to think about it.
Those poor kids would be heavily traumatized by the events in the world of The Boys…and would be in for a horrible wake up call for those involved.
Also, I could just imagine Vought taking over the Japanese government and getting rid of the League, and then forcing the kids to do their bidding.
I wonder how a fight with all might and home lander would go
Okay, what if UA Students ended up in the world of The Boys? Well, most of them are going to react a bit like Starlight and the characters from Gen V, shocked at what’s going on behind the scenes. Those with more abrasive and arrogant attitudes could be lulled in, though luckily they would have their classmates to keep things in perspective. The bolder students who have a strong sense of justice might try to expose the truth, but if this is in the earlier seasons, they probably would get slaughtered by Homelander and the Seven. If it’s in the later seasons, the students would put up a better fight though only a handful of them would actually be able to take on Homelander. I expect they would emerge grateful their Hero Society is nowhere near as depraved, but they would be cautious to ensure things never slide down to such horrible extents.
Is this reupload?Still happy for my hero academia video
yeah. I messed up last night. Was supposed to go out today and the version that went live was an older version of the video that was missing the outro. So here's official finished version as it was meant to be seen.
I feel like The Boys TV series writes it's Superheroes much better than MHA because it has a consistent and clear view of how it's gonna portray it's Superheroes by showing them as being corrupt, hedonistic and egotistical thanks to how they are treated as celebrities and corporate products who can get away with crimes thanks to the PR machine of Vought who are desperate to keep their heroes image clean to ensure they keep on being profitable.
With MHA it seriously feels like they have no idea of how it's heroes are gonna be like? On one hand they are supposed to be role models and heroes of justice, on the other hand we get characters like Stain who criticizes many of these pro-heroes for being "fake" who only becomes one for selfish reasons like fame, wealth and power which would be interesting to explore the corruption of hero society, yet nothing comes out of it with Endeavor, symbol of everything a hero should NEVER be, gets an atrociously contrived "redemption" arc that comes from nowhere and Stain's entire character purpose gets quickly forgotten, as if it was completely pointless.
Then there is also the fact that it's hero system is beyond flawed and broken thanks to bad writing.
First example would be how genuinely good people like Koichi can never become heroes unless they get very contrived and needlessly complicated reasons to even have a chance of being one while villains like Number 6 can get a hero license super casually without any inconvenience that makes the so called "heroes" look grossly incompetent and outright idiotic.
Second example is how the supposed "requirements" to be a hero is inconsistent.
Quirkless people can't be heroes because "it's too dangerous" even though there are a solid amount of heroes with quirks that range from weak to completely useless as well as the fact that based on the physical feats and skills of Stain alongside the advanced technology of MHA similar to Marvel and DC a quirkless person with great physical training, martial arts, weapons and gadgets would be much better than a lot of heroes and fight evenly those who have somewhat strong quirks thanks to their skills and versatility compared to those who rely entirely on one single superpower with specific ability and varying levels of strengths and weaknesses.
We also see how guys like Shinso failed to get into UA hero course because his quirk was ineffective against robots which not only raises the question of how some students like Toru, Kouda and Mirio became hero students despite their quirks but also why Shinso just didn't apply to another hero school that doesn't have the absurd "destroy robots" as part of the entrance exams?
This is what happens when you try to write Superheroes without any solid vision and foundations for how they are gonna function properly.
The boys is a bit more clear in it's intent while My Hero is more a of a love letter to american super hero tropes. I just think there interesting to compare since they provide radically different views of what the super human society looks like.
@@lobstermagnetreview I find it particularly weird that MHA is a "love" letter to American Superhero tropes when there are some it either refuses to use or even actually belittle and that would be the non-power Superhero trope that is common in Superhero media.
In the first chapter All Might says to Deku that he can't be a hero because it's "dangerous for quirkless people" which would be fine if it wasn't for how this message gets ruined by three facts.
First is that MHA, just like other Superhero works, features people capable of great physical feats and abilities when training body to peak condition with Stain being a great example, proving to be a great threat with that alongside being a great weapon user and having a quirk that can be substituted with poison without much issue.
Second is that technology of MHA is similar to other Superhero works where the potential to create gadgets and other sorts of tech weapons to help fight against foes with a superpower is there given how the series has robots for goodness sake.
Third is that while there are some powerful heroes that a badass normal person would have a hard time defeating there are plenty of heroes with quirks that have weak combat capabilities, have weaknesses that can be exploited or in some cases are downright useless for fighting, making me wonder what on earth All Might was smoking when he said that?
It's weird because a quirkless person with great physical training, martial arts, gadgets and weapons have more versatility than almost all quirk users due to how it's only one specific superpower with varying levels of strengths and weaknesses.
The fact that Hori writes that "quirkless people can't be heroes because it's dangerous" despite all sorts of Superhero media featuring heroes without powers going toe to toe and defeating meta-humans and those with powers with all the skills i mentioned above makes me wonder what the hell went through his mind with the "love letter" he has for American Superhero tropes when he confusingly disrespects one?
Also while both provide different views in Superhuman societies with The Boys it feels logical and consistent that has a purpose to it while with MHA it's so jarring, confusing, contradictory and flat out illogical that it breaks all believability in the series and makes the world and characters of MHA feel fake and artificial.
X-men characters magneto and Xavier are actually a refrence to two jewish famous leaders, Israeli Prime Minsters David Ben Gurion and Menachem Begin.
I think that what does best The Boys
And In my opinion does better than My Hero Academia
Is that
Yes, If in real life Superman knock off lasered a bunch of civilians in a third world country
I assure you there will be a debate about wheater this is good or not
Mostly because it started as a satire but now it looks like a total reflection of our modern world
I mean
Just log into Twitter and see how people actually defend horrible human actions or people who did unforgivable things
The Boys just puts all the blame in fictional Company (Vought) for plot convinience
But in real life
Things would be as hell as complicated
Social media would be full of super hero stuff
If we are already jumping at eachothers throats for celebrity drama
Imagine if Andrew Thate could fly
Get what I mean?
The boys has become deadly accurate satire of our world. Really enjoyed all the stuff in season 3.
Ngl I want to see how different MHA would be if Homelander replaced All Might and mentored Deku 🤣
I'd watch that tv show or read the comic.
In the BNHA world, you can't become a hero unless you go through years of brutal training so I highly doubt Homelander would be like this if he became a hero by being a kid with a quirk passing the hero course
@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 I mean, his quirk alone should put him at the top tho.
"Alright deku, I'm going to help you learn float."
"How?"
"Do it yourself." *pushes him of the roof*
That said, he DID show that he could be manipulative, and could bribe his way through the ranks.
I am writing my own superhero series that features my own interpretation of a superhuman society. It will be like a mix between X-Men and Tokyo Ghoul.
I was expecting some philosophical insights, but all i got was a description of the different franchises. >:/
Imagine the seven the boys and class 1 a fighting Homelander
Homelander is not nearly tough enough to win that fight.
Deku, Todoroki, Bakugo, Tokoyami, Kirishima, and Jiro are all strong enough to beat Homelander without any help.
Our egalitarian values will disappear like smoke, since it would be impossible to see all humans as equals when there are clearly superhumans who have a greater capacity for violence and more usability for society.
Normal humans would depend on the good will of superhumans, there may be some who believe in treating normal people with dignity and respect, but there will be many who will see it as an opportunity to commit abuse.
Me and the boys
I would say i think MHA is much more nuanced and better balanced however some characters of the Boys like Soilder Boy make the show worth watching.
I also think there is more Balance in the MHA universe where even the villains have quirks and powers so the Supes have to do their job vis a vis The Boys where they have unchecked power.
My hero month is great so far!
glad to hear you've been enjoying the selection of video topics.
Supes among us could be see as monsters
How is the MHA government structure a Randian nightmare? The Libertarian position would be with the Meta Liberation Army's stance of deregulated quirk use, not the license restrictions of the government.
you just answered your own question. Ann Rand would hate the idea of quirk regulation and licenses regulated by the government. Basically allowing who can be great and who cannot. The ultimate libertarian fantasy of unregulated quirk use is what the Meta Liberation Army is fighting for.
@@lobstermagnetreview fair, I was interpreting you saying randian knightmare as a dystopia based on Rand's worldview rather than something she would have opposed. My bad
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