Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (1995) CUT COMPARISON

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  • @DeadMeat
    @DeadMeat 5 років тому +1366

    ►►**WARNING: FLASHING LIGHTS AT **2:55**, **3:05**, **3:14**, **3:41**, **7:20**, **11:24**, and **14:35* *
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  • @Crypttv
    @Crypttv 5 років тому +2796

    New series...who dis?

  • @christianc.christian5025
    @christianc.christian5025 3 роки тому +1030

    "Too skinny and her chin is too pointy..."
    Seeing as how the actress is really hot and it's the Weinsteins, I'm going to go ahead and guess what actually happened to 'piss them off.'

    • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
      @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 3 роки тому +296

      According to the story, they also hated Donald because they considered him 'too old and boring' which is why they kept trying to cut his role smaller. So yes, GARBAGE PEOPLE.

    • @christianc.christian5025
      @christianc.christian5025 3 роки тому +70

      @@SuperCosmicMutantSquid I think this is one of the most agreeable statements you could utter on UA-cam.

    • @mrdreamy1747
      @mrdreamy1747 3 роки тому +65

      Why can't film makers have more respect toward actors, man?

    • @christianc.christian5025
      @christianc.christian5025 3 роки тому +85

      @@mrdreamy1747 I think they just have a general disrespect toward all people, and because they view actors as replaceable, they try to plug 'ordinary' people into acting jobs in order to gain leverage over them.

    • @greenrandall143
      @greenrandall143 3 роки тому +29

      @@mrdreamy1747 I don’t think it’s filmmakers in general I just think it’s trash people givin power

  • @patrickkanas3874
    @patrickkanas3874 4 роки тому +503

    The movie was actually being medically accurate when showing the doctors not removing the knife until Jamie was in surgery

    • @DeepEye1994
      @DeepEye1994 2 роки тому +35

      Exactly, I'm still SO pissed when in "Starship Troopers" they remove that piece of Arachnid that bit into Dizzy, DON'T REMOVE IT YOU IDIOTS, that's the only thing that's at least keeping the hemorrhage as closed as possible!!! She could have survived it damn it

    • @MyNameIsDanielYT
      @MyNameIsDanielYT Рік тому +3

      @@DeepEye1994 DIZZZY !!!!!!! yep as soon as they removed that she was done..

  • @TheMaury101
    @TheMaury101 4 роки тому +674

    Just wanna put it out there, the knife being removed while she’s on the operating table is how it’s treated in real life. If an object(this case the knife) has punctured say an artery or vein, the only thing keeping the Vic from bleeding to death is the knife, so generally it is removed while on the operating table so the surgeons can stop any life threatening bleeding and close up the wound.
    I apologize and Excuse me for any grammatical errors.

    • @stephiiiless
      @stephiiiless 3 роки тому +14

      Yup they have to cut it out
      happened to my by he was involved in a horrible stabbing being stabbed as he was walking out the door of a bar into a group fighting each other so he got attacked and was stabbed bad t h e knife was stuck all the way into his side only the handle out , entire blade in him. Fuckers almost killed him. Inches away from knicking his lung.
      Had to have surgery and they had to cut the knife out. My bf was in such shock when it happened he tried to pull it out and thankfully he couldn't it wouldn't even move one bit. It was so bad. And just nasty having to clean that cut it was massive since they had to cut the knife out.

    • @gjk2012
      @gjk2012 3 роки тому +1

      The guy in the video isn't very smart about taking out the knife before going to the hospital.

    • @itsleetv935
      @itsleetv935 3 роки тому +21

      @@gjk2012 duh he’s not a doctor....

    • @karmasupreme7973
      @karmasupreme7973 3 роки тому +5

      That was literally perfect English...

    • @tanyalebean3695
      @tanyalebean3695 3 роки тому +2

      thought of that while he questions it
      like, "ain't that a good thing?"

  • @TellItAnimated
    @TellItAnimated 5 років тому +980

    Awesome new series James! I've never seen the Producer's Cut before so it was interesting seeing what they changed. Wish they kept more of Loomis in the theatrical cut, that man is a legend and always added so much gravitas to a series even when the story lacked.

  • @TheCynicalAutist
    @TheCynicalAutist 5 років тому +2198

    This entire channel is actually making me interested in horror, something I'd never thought would happen. Thanks for making videos, man!

    • @cookiesontoast9981
      @cookiesontoast9981 5 років тому +51

      Not interested in horror? Oh god.. I couldn't live without horror movies.

    • @TheCynicalAutist
      @TheCynicalAutist 5 років тому +51

      @@cookiesontoast9981 It's just not my thing. At least not when I was easily scared back in the day. It didn't seem fun to me to deliberately scare myself. Now that I've grown up, I get the appeal, although more in terms of the techniques they use for gore, the psychology of the murderers etc.

    • @TheCynicalAutist
      @TheCynicalAutist 5 років тому +12

      @SpoonForkSpork It's really fun. I watched the newest Halloween last week and really enjoyed it.

    • @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917
      @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917 5 років тому +3

      Same

    • @nolanc9432
      @nolanc9432 5 років тому +1

      Me too

  • @elitebelt
    @elitebelt 5 років тому +731

    That producer's version seems LEAGUES better than the theatrical. While it still isn't the best, it at least makes a lot of sense, and is way better than the other, more dumbed down and silly version. The only thing it lacked was memorable kills, which I guess the theatrical version sort of had, mostly just with the electrical head explosion kill.

    • @Nestalgba92023
      @Nestalgba92023 5 років тому +2

      However, the final frontier did suck, like "objectively".

    • @Anthonycheesman33
      @Anthonycheesman33 5 років тому +8

      Yea Michael rapping his niece is alot better

    • @johnepants
      @johnepants 4 роки тому +31

      There are aspects of the Producers cut that are better, like the music and the pacing. The only better thing about the theatrical cut was that it did give the impression that Michael was pure evil that was only contained, and not controlled, by the cult, and eventually, he ends them after too much interference on their part.

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 4 роки тому +18

      The Halloween franchise was never really about memorable kills or gore though. Halloween 1 and 2 are both pretty tame, but made up for it in better suspense and rooting for the characters. Same with 4 and 5 with Jamie Lloyd, though those weren't as good, i did enjoy 4 a lot.

    • @alucard624
      @alucard624 4 роки тому +6

      @@Noobie2k7 Thank you. Halloween was always better when it concentrated on suspense and build up to something and left more to your imagination. Hell, the music alone is sometimes creepier than what is actually happening onscreen. It's why I prefer the Producers Cut as well as the original Halloween as well. Less is more.

  • @ralph5214
    @ralph5214 2 роки тому +86

    I think the producer's cut ending is a cool closure to that era of Halloween films before they went onto H20. Loomis being cursed with Thorn and forced as their new leader has a "we're destined to do this forever" vibe followed by the jack o lantern candle being blown out. it's a haunting and cool ending.

  • @CAITLIN-gz8li
    @CAITLIN-gz8li 5 років тому +227

    holy shit I loved James pulling in a new james 😂😂

    • @CAITLIN-gz8li
      @CAITLIN-gz8li 5 років тому

      Givani De La Cerda lmao when he compared the cuts

  • @aprilmichellerose3687
    @aprilmichellerose3687 5 років тому +352

    I don’t understand why they cut Donald’s narrating in the beginning. Tommy is a main character in this film, but Dr. Loomis was a huge part of the franchise up until his death. I’m sorry, but it’s kind of hard for me to feel like the latter movies are as good without Loomis. I know they wouldn’t nor shouldn’t recast to keep him alive, but I loved Dr. Loomis and his dramatic scenes. He was awesome! Rip Donald 💔💯

    • @flatcapman
      @flatcapman 5 років тому +8

      that was my major gripe with the Theatrical cut. Not enough Dr Loomis and it was just as much his story as Micheal's

    • @Annausagi2
      @Annausagi2 5 років тому +5

      I'm remembering this from watching Phelous's review of this movie, and he said that apparently, the director (or, well.. the company) chose to show more Tommy and less Dr Loomis because...... they found him boring.
      Wtf???

    • @aprilmichellerose3687
      @aprilmichellerose3687 5 років тому +9

      Annausagi2- Boring? Lmao-they’re crazy....I always found Dr. Loomis very entertaining and the obsession he had with stopping Michael from killing was the best! Donald was an amazing actor! 💯💯

    • @Annausagi2
      @Annausagi2 5 років тому +3

      Absolutely! I've never been a 'Halloween' fan, but I've always enjoyed the scenes with Donald Pleasence in them, whenever they aired the movies on tv. "Boring", my ass.

    • @aprilmichellerose3687
      @aprilmichellerose3687 5 років тому

      Lloyd Duff you’re exactly right 💯

  • @clubsnatcher
    @clubsnatcher 5 років тому +275

    "The power of the runes stopped him" - where can I get that on a shirt?

    • @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar
      @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar 5 років тому +5

      Which yet it didn't because he still got out the circle with no problem.

    • @FireRogueWolf25
      @FireRogueWolf25 5 років тому +1

      @@thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar He go out by giving Dr. Winn the curse

    • @_theWAVman_
      @_theWAVman_ 4 роки тому +7

      The Halloween Warrior he’s asking for a damn shirt not for you to explain the damn story

    • @alucard624
      @alucard624 4 роки тому +3

      Make it yourself or have someone make it for you. I've done that before with several lines I've heard from sci fi and horror flicks. Plenty of T-shirt companies out there will make custom shirts for you.

  • @kimberlyterasaki4843
    @kimberlyterasaki4843 5 років тому +227

    15:32 I'm guessing it makes a touch more sense in the movie itself, but I'm really confused as to why Michael finding out that the baby is his would make a difference; Laurie and Jaime being related to him didn't stop him from trying to kill them (or worse in Jaime's case) and he's supposed to be evil incarnate. Plus, why wouldn't he know it was his kid at that point if the cult had that whole gross ritual?

    • @IronBoy-hf2lp
      @IronBoy-hf2lp 5 років тому +26

      The relation of father and child differs from that of brother and sister, I guess...

    • @demonteprice5870
      @demonteprice5870 5 років тому +56

      Well the implication with the 4-6 Michael is that he's not evil, he's being manipulated by evil forces that he can't understand and is desperately trying to free himself from them (and he was lead to believe killing his family would do that)

    • @noesunyoutuber7680
      @noesunyoutuber7680 3 роки тому +8

      @@demonteprice5870 But his son is also his family, so why wouldn't the same "Kill your whole family, Michael, it'll totally work I swear" promise apply then? The movie was just written by hacks, that's the problem.

    • @vampiregamingyt8754
      @vampiregamingyt8754 Рік тому +1

      My guess was that Kara was trying to distract him for a second while she was waiting to be rescued

    • @MRF-bq7kq
      @MRF-bq7kq Рік тому

      Jamie being raped by her uncle is too disturbing, especially since we and Micheal first saw her as a little kid, it's too dark and real for me and I guess for most people too

  • @darko-hexar
    @darko-hexar 5 років тому +235

    Your comparison of both movies at the very end, with their pros and cons, oddly reminded me of Professor Oak grading my photos in Pokemon Snap, lol

    • @Metrion77
      @Metrion77 5 років тому +1

      You were close.

    • @joenuts8227
      @joenuts8227 5 років тому

      Haha
      “Well my student, this cut comparison is good, I give you... A CHARIZARD!!!!”

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 5 років тому +695

    This is a great new Series. Please continue.

    • @SlasherInSuits
      @SlasherInSuits 5 років тому

      Bryce Mckenzie huh there’s only probably alien 3, rob zombies both Halloween’s.

    • @cjwrench07
      @cjwrench07 5 років тому +3

      He might have to go to other genres to keep up the series. Imagine him doing this to BvS theatrical vs Ultimate Cuts.

    • @SlasherInSuits
      @SlasherInSuits 5 років тому

      Doctor Cthulhu have to have been covered on the kill count

    • @eganator2285
      @eganator2285 5 років тому

      AGREED

    • @lightsofff
      @lightsofff 3 роки тому +1

      666th like 😳

  • @generalsleepy3859
    @generalsleepy3859 4 роки тому +118

    How did I miss "Arthurian fist clench" the first time through this? I love the cut comparisons and am looking forward to more of them when you get the chance

  • @asovietpotato4934
    @asovietpotato4934 5 років тому +47

    You should totally say “let’s cut to the comparison” instead of “lets get to the kills” for this new series

  • @nejitentenlee21
    @nejitentenlee21 5 років тому +78

    I love how happy you sound when you call out the shitty parts of these movies, not just Halloween but every movie

    • @03bgood
      @03bgood 5 років тому +3

      H1&2 and H4-6 > H20-HR

    • @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar
      @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar 5 років тому

      @@03bgood Yes indeed! H1, H2, H4, H5, H6 P-Cut are way better than H20 and Resurrection.

    • @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar
      @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar 5 років тому +1

      @@03bgood They are also better than both Rob Zombie garbage films and also better than that crappy garbage Halloween 2018 movie!

  • @LiTTleGaBi21
    @LiTTleGaBi21 5 років тому +70

    "jailbreaking Michael like he was the lastest Iphone"
    lmao

  • @lateformyownbirth
    @lateformyownbirth 5 років тому +95

    Considering the letter thorn was in use up until at least the invention of the printing press, that producer's cut title card reads 'Hthlloween 6'.

    • @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar
      @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar 5 років тому +9

      The Producer's Cut is the best one. The theatrical one was a total mess and made no sense!

    • @grantorino2325
      @grantorino2325 4 роки тому +4

      After the invention of the printing press, it was often substituted with "y." e.g. "Ye olde shoppes."
      So, "Hylloween 6"?

    • @gr8cescale
      @gr8cescale 4 роки тому +1

      @@grantorino2325 Hylloween 6.

    • @teeveestudios8594
      @teeveestudios8594 3 роки тому

      The Producers Cut was the best, but I would rather the ending to the theatrical cut ending.

    • @MRF-bq7kq
      @MRF-bq7kq Рік тому

      @@teeveestudios8594 and cut the parts where Jamie was raped by her uncle boogeyman

  • @shrimp8431
    @shrimp8431 5 років тому +70

    R.I.P
    Dr. Loomis

    • @gamleskalle1
      @gamleskalle1 3 роки тому

      Donald Pleasance

    • @Whatsabird
      @Whatsabird 3 роки тому

      @@gamleskalle1 the guy who will be known as Dr.Loomis

  • @tonypeppermint5329
    @tonypeppermint5329 5 років тому +78

    Yeah, I'm gonna love this series. Who wouldn't love this?

    • @Cesarlmao
      @Cesarlmao 5 років тому

      67 people apparently lol

  • @FrancescoTakesItEasy
    @FrancescoTakesItEasy 5 років тому +118

    I was hoping for you to cover some aspects of the troubled production of Curse and also comment on the differences between the two versions and voila - here comes the Cut Comparison. It's like you've been reading my mind. I'm looking forward to more of this. The Alien series is a good place to start, part 3 is gonna be a shit ton of work, though

    • @samrtnr97
      @samrtnr97 5 років тому +2

      Yeah I'm actually kinda hoping James does go back and do the Alien movies at some point for this series, especially since all four of the original movies have director's cuts (with Aliens and 3 being the most popular ones for obvious reasons). Same with any other film he's covered previously that has an unrated/extended version.

  • @vinylcomets
    @vinylcomets 3 роки тому +67

    If he’s going to continue this series, he has to compare Little Shop of Horrors. The two versions are drastically different endings.

    • @TheKevinKruger
      @TheKevinKruger 3 роки тому +3

      That would be cool, except that’s the only change in the director’s cut, so there’s not much to talk about.

    • @cheatcode436
      @cheatcode436 3 роки тому +3

      *Inhales* I'M JUST A MEAN GREEN M-

  • @flecktarn1000
    @flecktarn1000 5 років тому +356

    I was sold on the producers cut version until they made the father of the baby Michael Myers. That was unnecessary.

    • @alisetalia6211
      @alisetalia6211 5 років тому +17

      Michael... I don't think he is the father of the baby.

    • @FullArcher05
      @FullArcher05 5 років тому +58

      To be honest, I think that scene was fine since it wasn't explicit. I can't imagine seeing Michael-fucking-Myers rape someone.

    • @Anthonycheesman33
      @Anthonycheesman33 5 років тому +7

      And the ending sucks

    • @LaraCroftEyes1
      @LaraCroftEyes1 4 роки тому +6

      Michael is the father of Jamie baby.

    • @DNSV-ex8of
      @DNSV-ex8of 4 роки тому +38

      Ya as much as the theatrical version makes no sense to have him as a father and rapist is completely stupid. Loomis getting the thorn tattoo at the end was dumb too. Without those to elements producers was better. To be honest though, they both sucked compared to other sequals in the franchise.

  • @m3ndoza213
    @m3ndoza213 5 років тому +102

    Dang the producers cut is way better except the part where Loomis gets the thorn

  • @jasonhurst8599
    @jasonhurst8599 2 роки тому +23

    Would love to see a version with the producer's cut story line, but with the gorier, and more graphic kill scenes of the theatrical version inserted. Aka the BEST of both versions.

  • @rcdune7132
    @rcdune7132 4 роки тому +16

    Always felt like michael finally became fully aware at the end of the PC. I like that version better because it actually gives us an ending.

  • @benzeller3635
    @benzeller3635 5 років тому +68

    Theatrical:
    -Better color correction
    -Better kills
    -Faster paced
    -Better Loomis send off
    Producers:
    -Better use of music (Halloween theme used better)
    -Includes key information
    -More Loomis
    -More Wynn

    • @benzeller3635
      @benzeller3635 5 років тому +5

      DoYouWannaGetThe SUCC I never said that I prefer one cut over the other, I merely stated some pros of each. This was to inform others and let them make their own decision, not to force my opinion on to anyone.

    • @benzeller3635
      @benzeller3635 5 років тому +6

      DoYouWannaGetThe SUCC You can’t say you wanted to let people make their own decisions when instead of stating facts you said ‘The producers cut is WAY better’ that’s not letting others make an opinion, that’s just you forcing your opinion on others. I do agree that the producers cut is better, but you shouldn’t hate on someone because they think the theatrical is better.

    • @benzeller3635
      @benzeller3635 5 років тому +7

      DoYouWannaGetThe SUCC DoYouWannaGetThe SUCC Saying ‘The producers cut is WAY better’ is not ‘actually facts’ it’s still just your opinion

    • @reesemiller9337
      @reesemiller9337 5 років тому +2

      Wow. WIll you leave the guy alone? Dick.

    • @111highgh
      @111highgh 5 років тому

      @@reesemiller9337 You're a waste of space.

  • @shanecook-laliberte8154
    @shanecook-laliberte8154 5 років тому +264

    This is fantastic work. The amount of thought and effort put into it shines through. Thank you James. You're a godsend to the horror community.

  • @laurenbravo3126
    @laurenbravo3126 2 роки тому +8

    16:39 “Sounds stupid but the story checks out…”
    😂
    “standing there like an idiot” 😂😂
    “Michael’s impotence”
    😂😂😂

  • @cakelick7677
    @cakelick7677 5 років тому +163

    6years from Halloween 5
    6 film
    6months into the year
    (A coincidence? I think not)

  • @AJ-lw9kp
    @AJ-lw9kp 5 років тому +47

    Is it weird that I was way too excited for this?

    • @andym1626
      @andym1626 5 років тому +1

      AceWire802 No

    • @stipq076
      @stipq076 5 років тому +1

      Im excited for every dead meat videos

    • @jorbus1581
      @jorbus1581 5 років тому

      Not at all

    • @Senor_bob05
      @Senor_bob05 5 років тому

      AceWire802 yes

  • @tylermoreland9594
    @tylermoreland9594 5 років тому +151

    James is the GOAT

  • @Chynen1c
    @Chynen1c 4 роки тому +9

    in Producer's cut, this is originally titled "Halloween 666: The Origin of Michael Myers" but they changed into "Halloween: The Curse Of Michael Myers", James!

  • @marsellusdurden182
    @marsellusdurden182 Рік тому +7

    Thank you for doing this! As someone who adores the franchise and was in the midde of a marathon, this film confused the hell out of me 😅
    I had also seen the Producer's cut years ago so I thought I had a Mandala effect happening when I realized how bizzarely different the theatrical cut I saw recently was

  • @robertpreston2220
    @robertpreston2220 5 років тому +101

    Tommy did not find the runes he brought them himself. he had them in the scene when he explained the curse to Kara another difference in the films you forgot too mention.

  • @javi6594
    @javi6594 5 років тому +28

    I ALREADY LOVE THIS SERIES YESSS

  • @Bobby_Hall
    @Bobby_Hall 3 роки тому +99

    Here are my pros and cons for both versions of Halloween 6.
    P-Cut pros:
    1. Opening narration with Loomis
    2. More scenes with Loomis.
    3. Since Jamie survives Michael’s attack, that gives Loomis a reason to be at the hospital.
    4. I like the music that was composed for the cult scenes as well as some of the classic Carpenter music.
    5. More scenes with other characters that help develop them more.
    P-Cut cons:
    1. Michael impregnating Jamie.
    2. Wynn telling Loomis that he gave Michael the “gift of Thorn,” which makes Michael less mysterious since Wynn made him murder his sister and has been controlling him ever since.
    3. Michael being stopped by magic rocks. I don’t want there to be extremely obvious supernatural things in the Halloween films. Hint at it, but don’t confirm it.
    4. The entire last act has almost no intensity and feels more like a soap opera than a Halloween movie.
    5. When John Strode gets electrocuted you can see the stuntman’s face and he looks nothing like the actor.
    6. The film relies too heavily on the classic Carpenter music. It’s used way too much and doesn’t know when to fade out.
    7. Michael is basically a sidekick. He should be the main villain.
    8. Thorn tattoo appearing on Loomis’s wrist. This Thorn stuff was getting ridiculous. It’s fine to talk about it a bit but it’s focused on way too much and takes away from the suspense and mysterious nature of Michael Myers.
    9. The nighttime shot of Smith’s Grove is actually a recycled shot from Halloween 4, except in Halloween 4 it was a different building. Seems like a lazy and unprofessional thing to do.
    T-Cut pros:
    1. Michael is brutal. The last act of the film shows how relentless and uncontrollable he is.
    2. The Curse of Thorn seems more like a theory to explain why Michael is evil instead of being an indisputable fact as in the producer’s cut.
    3. I really like the song “And Fools Shine On” as well as a lot of the music composed for the theatrical cut.
    4. The death of John Strode is much more intense. Even if you don’t like the exploding head, all the shots leading up to it are much more effective than they are in the p-cut.
    5. I really like the scene of Jamie walking around in the barn and how she sees Michael lit up by a flash of lightning and then he seems to disappear. Very creepy because it gives Michael a ghost-like quality. In the p-cut she just sits on a bale of hay waiting to get stabbed.
    6. Instead of Wynn saying he gave Michael the Curse of Thorn as he does in the p-cut, in the t-cut he just says that Loomis was the first one to recognize that Michael was “evil. Pure, uncorrupted, ancient.” This keeps Michael’s evil more mysterious because it doesn’t directly tell us that Wynn made him evil.
    7. There’s nothing in the film that suggests Michael is the father of Jamie’s baby. I thought having him be the father was ridiculous and in the t-cut it’s a mystery who the father is (or maybe the baby was the result of a genetic experiment conducted by Wynn).
    T-Cut cons:
    1. Not enough Loomis.
    2. The ending isn’t explained. What is Wynn’s plan? What does he intend to do with Danny and the baby? There needed to be at least a minimum amount of explanation so that we can try to make some sense of it.
    3. Too much crazy “flash cut” editing.
    4. They overdid it with the jump scares and some other sound effects.
    5. I’m not a fan of how Jamie dies in such a brutal, over-the-top way.
    6. Since Jamie dies early on in the film there’s no reason why Loomis hangs out at the hospital all day. Why is he there? Does he just really like the cafeteria food?
    After comparing all the pros and cons of the two cuts I prefer the theatrical cut. My two main reasons are:
    1. It’s more intense
    2. The nature of Michael’s evil is a bit more mysterious.

    • @livefromthemotherland
      @livefromthemotherland 2 роки тому +10

      Good breakdown. I agree. There should be a mystery around why Michael does what he does. Explaining it away with him being controlled by another entity makes him more of a side character than the full blown antagonist

    • @EntertainmentFan11
      @EntertainmentFan11 2 роки тому +6

      I think one of the cult members impregnated Jamie on Wynn's orders, and Michael just sat and observed. And I honestly like the Rock version of the iconic score. Gives it a bit more variety. And maybe the effect of the curse of Thorn was too much for Loomis when the mark appeared on his wrist that it eventually killed him? I mean, it could have different effects on certain people. Wynn embraced it, but when he passed it on to Loomis, it might've been too powerful for the guy that it killed him. Just a theory, but I think it'd make sense.

    • @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917
      @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917 2 роки тому +1

      @@EntertainmentFan11 maybe Loomis killed himself afterward as he doesn’t want forced to be part of the Cult

    • @EntertainmentFan11
      @EntertainmentFan11 2 роки тому +1

      @@toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917 That's also possible.

    • @HyperXero52
      @HyperXero52 Рік тому +6

      The reasons why I prefer the Theatrical Cut are exactly the same as yours. Michael is not treated as the cult's pet dog, he still seems to be his own thing, uncontrollable. This added to the way gorier kills make him way more menacing and mysterious

  • @Murderotica
    @Murderotica 5 років тому +24

    I’ve recently found this channel, and I love it. You’re such a laid back and chill dude. I used to be terrified of horror movies but now I love them thanks to you. I’m glad that there’s someone out there like you James.

  • @wilco0087
    @wilco0087 5 років тому +88

    I absolutely loved this! I'm so happy you're finally launching this new series. I've been keeping my eyes out for such a video since you mentioned wanting to compare the different versions of Alien 3.
    I love the humor and wit of your "Kill Counts" but I really like that you took a more "real talk" approach to this series. For lack of better phrasing, it feels a bit more "intimate" than the usual Kill Count. I don't mean this negatively but there's a clear performance aspect to the Kill Counts, but that's stripped away here and it's just you talking to us, much like with Chelsea and your podcasts.
    Excited for the next installment!

  • @koa022
    @koa022 5 років тому +80

    can't wait for the Friday the 13th part 7 cut comparison

    • @MaryRoeRussel
      @MaryRoeRussel 5 років тому +5

      koa022
      If the footage still exists

    • @dirty06maggot
      @dirty06maggot 5 років тому

      I think the footage is gone :(

    • @benholland3740
      @benholland3740 5 років тому +6

      It exists, i saw it in a documentary, but the quality is worse than My Bloody Valentine
      Hey, that gives me an idea

    • @koa022
      @koa022 5 років тому +5

      Even if the quality suxx, we still can see how violent and gore the kills were before the cut

    • @koa022
      @koa022 5 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/x9zf6eOZmMo/v-deo.html

  • @officialmichaelmyers
    @officialmichaelmyers 3 роки тому +5

    Yah I try to forget that day

    • @meganstation2785
      @meganstation2785 3 роки тому +2

      The cult forced you to do it Michael so don't feel bad :/

  • @josephbowers8627
    @josephbowers8627 5 років тому +6

    Definitely a series I'd look forward to seeing more installments of. Keep it up, James!

  • @joshora8840
    @joshora8840 5 років тому +62

    I really love how you keep thinking about new things to do on your channel and I think this in particular is a great idea.
    Keep up the good work James :D

  • @shdwcobra63
    @shdwcobra63 5 років тому +86

    I love dead meat because I’m too broke to watch a movie so your videos are like a movie in 20 minutes and review! Thank you James

  • @ChadBlue83
    @ChadBlue83 5 років тому +36

    Fun fact, there is actually a small town in Kentucky named Smith's Grove, that happens to be in Warren County.

    • @kkraut
      @kkraut 3 роки тому +2

      John Carpenter is from KY in the nearby town of Bowling Green. It was an intentional name choice just like Haddonfield.

  • @johnmorton9493
    @johnmorton9493 5 років тому +2

    This looks like it's going to be an absolutely great show for the channel James definitely keep making more episodes I'd love to see how different some of these films can be between different cuts

  • @nameless0510
    @nameless0510 5 років тому +190

    Both versions have their Strentghs and Weaknesses

    • @megashark1013
      @megashark1013 5 років тому +14

      Star Platinum And both kind of suck.

    • @Lonewolf_665
      @Lonewolf_665 5 років тому +1

      @@megashark1013 nah

    • @TheCat_3
      @TheCat_3 5 років тому +3

      @@Lonewolf_665 dude the name Halloween can't clear this of the shit show it was so many diffrent produces stupid storyline to go off of, it was doomed to fail

    • @blakemcilwain2501
      @blakemcilwain2501 5 років тому +5

      Mostly just weaknesses

    • @ryanmudd3840
      @ryanmudd3840 5 років тому

      Both rly? Producers seem a lot better

  • @empressink_
    @empressink_ 5 років тому +152

    that barry kicks ass shirt is cool if you believe it's applies to barry burton ;)

    • @nerdyweeaboo3734
      @nerdyweeaboo3734 5 років тому +5

      YES! The first Resident Evil game was Awesome!

    • @empressink_
      @empressink_ 5 років тому +6

      @@nerdyweeaboo3734 hell yeah! barry is the chuck norris of the RE universe 👍

    • @Melphas
      @Melphas 5 років тому +1

      The best waifu

    • @seantds619
      @seantds619 4 роки тому

      I want the kill counts for that series

    • @geddoe316
      @geddoe316 4 роки тому +1

      you were almost a jill sandwich!

  • @AlienWithABox
    @AlienWithABox 5 років тому +11

    I'm so excited for this series! I love comparing different versions of movies.
    Idea that I'm sure others have said before: Saying "Let's get to the cuts!" before starting your analysis. It just seems like a natural thing to say and echoes your Kill Count line.

  • @mr.goodwill2256
    @mr.goodwill2256 5 років тому +3

    i love these cut comparisons you make. bravo!

  • @dreaveronica6944
    @dreaveronica6944 5 років тому +67

    I love this new addition to the channel!

    • @vampirascoffin870
      @vampirascoffin870 5 років тому

      wow you are bloody beautiful bless be💀🎃🕷🌷

    • @joeygrenova7635
      @joeygrenova7635 5 років тому

      how is that your comment was posted '21 hours ago' the video was uploaded 30 mins ago !?

    • @dreaveronica6944
      @dreaveronica6944 5 років тому +2

      @@joeygrenova7635 patreon

    • @Foxy-ty6hb
      @Foxy-ty6hb 5 років тому

      Lucky patreon

    • @joeygrenova7635
      @joeygrenova7635 5 років тому +2

      fu#* it i'm pledging .

  • @RobertEdwinHouse9
    @RobertEdwinHouse9 5 років тому +67

    Theatrical has more gore and looks nicer but the producers cut yust makes way more sense

  • @LuchaGangsta
    @LuchaGangsta 5 років тому +6

    Enjoyed both cut comparisons. Really good stuff

  • @gblatt8472
    @gblatt8472 5 років тому +4

    This is the first time I've seen your channel, and I really liked the concept of this video. As a filmmaker, I know just how hard editing is and I'm fascinated by alternate cuts of movies. Please do more of these. :)

  • @cjholden6205
    @cjholden6205 5 років тому +16

    I didn't expect it that soon for some reason, but I'm SO not complaing.
    A great idea and of course an equally great execution. Feel free to make more, you got my vote!
    (Too bad that the late 90s Mel Gibson joint PAYBACK isn't a horror movie, because I can't think of any other movie that has such drastically different cuts.)

  • @Cooldoge67
    @Cooldoge67 5 років тому +38

    IM IN THE FUTURE NOW!!!

  • @Sir_Francis
    @Sir_Francis 8 місяців тому +1

    As a LONG time Halloween Series Fan this comparison of the 2 versions of the film is the most comprehensive & thorough one I've seen! Well Done!

  • @yaracardona3495
    @yaracardona3495 5 років тому +1

    I absolutely love this. Please keep making these. Can't wait to see what comes next

  • @WillBrozInc
    @WillBrozInc 5 років тому +30

    This is going to be an amazing series! Thank you so much for all your hard work James!

  • @zackramirez4445
    @zackramirez4445 5 років тому +26

    I can already tell this is going to a be great series! Keep up the great work James and Chelsea!

  • @goose300183
    @goose300183 5 років тому

    Great idea for a series. I get the feeling that this is going to be a lot of work, this episode alone must have taken a long time. Thanks James, I appreciate your efforts.

  • @moviemaniac7980
    @moviemaniac7980 5 років тому +4

    I really like this Cut Comparison and think you should definitely do more of these.

  • @ChadDickey99
    @ChadDickey99 5 років тому +8

    This is the coolest concept I’ve seen in a while. This concept is amazing for other films! Looking forward to more!

  • @jsmalls9575
    @jsmalls9575 5 років тому +23

    Awesome video and concept. Who can top your content? NO ONE, that's who. Thanks!

  • @aidanselman2259
    @aidanselman2259 5 років тому

    I really hope we see more of the cut comparison series. Really enjoyed it and also makes me consider which cut to actually watch.

  • @dylanstrub
    @dylanstrub 5 років тому

    Love the cut comparison! Can't wait to see more! Keep up the amazing work.

  • @lamehooligan
    @lamehooligan 5 років тому +17

    YES KEEP DOING THESE! Love yah James 💖

  • @andrewzakrzewski2770
    @andrewzakrzewski2770 5 років тому +10

    Please keep going, you really are big influence and I love that you guys are doing this. Always forward and that's inspirational

  • @katrinab9440
    @katrinab9440 5 років тому

    Love this. It's great to see how different edits can change a film.

  • @ladyvenompunk6178
    @ladyvenompunk6178 5 років тому +1

    I was really looking for a nice Horror channel and you've provided, James. I love the idea for this format, also. Keep it coming!

  • @derekconnors4128
    @derekconnors4128 5 років тому +50

    Halloween 6 is a mess, but it was just trying to make sense of the elements introduced in 5, and was a labor of love by many involved. I'd still say I like Halloween 6 more than Halloween 5 and Resurrection.

    • @opfryingpan9770
      @opfryingpan9770 5 років тому +3

      Nice dog.

    • @cookiesontoast9981
      @cookiesontoast9981 5 років тому +3

      6 is my 4th favourite film in the franchise.
      My list:
      1: Halloween 2
      2: Halloween 3
      3: Halloween 1
      4: Halloween 6
      5: Halloween 2018
      6: Halloween 2007
      7: Halloween 4
      8: Halloween H20
      9: Halloween 2 2009
      10: Halloween 5
      11: Halloween Resurrection
      I enjoy them all, even 5 and Resurrection, they have flaws but I'm someone who can easily recognise flaws, accept them and put them aside to enjoy the rest of a film. I can say that 5 is the most boring and Resurrection is the most offensively stupid but still like I said... Don't care too much, I like them, which one I like more can alternate from time to time, same for H4 and H20, sometimes I like one more, others I prefer the other.
      But my favourites being 2 and 3 are set in stone, fucking love those films.

    • @PRHILL9696
      @PRHILL9696 5 років тому +3

      Halloween 6 Producers cut is the best one in the Halloween franchise. Too bad they did not do the sequel that was planned for it

    • @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar
      @thehalloweenheavymetalmusicwar 5 років тому +1

      If you only read the sequel that was planned for it you wouldn't be saying it's a mess.

    • @PRHILL9696
      @PRHILL9696 5 років тому

      The planned sequel to Part 6 would be FAR better than the shit that has come out since

  • @StatusCaIamitous
    @StatusCaIamitous 5 років тому +12

    Love the double uploads James keep up the good work

  • @MrBeezyb88
    @MrBeezyb88 5 років тому

    Great video man I didn't even know there was a producers cut until a few days ago and watching you go through makes me want to watch keep up the good work

  • @harrisontheking5507
    @harrisontheking5507 5 років тому +51

    So we gone act like Michael wasn't walking fast in this movie

  • @Cinderkin
    @Cinderkin 5 років тому +20

    This is a quality addition to the channel. Keep up the good work James. Any movies you've already covered have enough to make a cut comparison of?

  • @katiewhelan6431
    @katiewhelan6431 5 років тому +40

    16:48 "And he doesn't notice when the Killer does an Arthurian fist clench at his side"
    I cannot believe you just referenced that meme

    • @acegamerultragamer1532
      @acegamerultragamer1532 5 років тому +5

      I can't believe I didn't notice this. Can we get a version of that scene with Micheal and Evil Spooky Cult Dude?

    • @trod146
      @trod146 5 років тому +2

      The fact you think "Arthurian" means Arthur from the cartoon makes me real damn sad.. Read up on history..

    • @acegamerultragamer1532
      @acegamerultragamer1532 5 років тому +1

      @@trod146 mmm...no. sorry. If it makes ya feel better I liked your comment.

  • @jadjason6053
    @jadjason6053 2 роки тому +1

    Seriously i watched the Movie on Prime Video but was confused about the missing ritual scene so many reviewers showed.
    I didn't know that there has actually been a directors cut.
    Thank you so much for showing me everything that i missed.

  • @Fearless665
    @Fearless665 2 роки тому +1

    I really dig this channel because of the insight on movie making and the decisions that do or do not happen. They feel a bit nicer segmented (not that kill counts aren't) and have a DOPE ASS song playing over it B)
    you go guys, I can't get enough of this already, I hope to see more!

  • @ZuZu-mm9su
    @ZuZu-mm9su 5 років тому +14

    love all the new series keep it up

  • @crbuck3394
    @crbuck3394 5 років тому +5

    Hey James!
    Loving the kill
    Counts and the new content too! Love seeing the differences between movies and the context you give them!

  • @JuanRodriguez-yx6lw
    @JuanRodriguez-yx6lw 5 років тому

    Can’t wait to see more from this series... great job James!

  • @enderkhunying2172
    @enderkhunying2172 5 років тому +21

    "let's get to the cuts" sounds a little better. Can't wait to see more of this. Great job with the channel.

  • @heneedshelp5870
    @heneedshelp5870 5 років тому +6

    I’m so excited for this series

  • @jeofficialjoker
    @jeofficialjoker 5 років тому +7

    *_*Evil laughing*_*
    *_THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT SERIES_*

  • @Herkermer
    @Herkermer 5 років тому

    Yes keep up this series this is great!!!! I can never find good explanations online or threads that explain these well. You do it perfect!

  • @ciaraistrash7811
    @ciaraistrash7811 5 років тому

    Super excited about this series! Amazing job James!

  • @goalienjd
    @goalienjd 5 років тому +5

    I didn't think I would find a new series that I could enjoy just as much as the "Kill Counts". I am so happy to be wrong! I loved this content, I can't wait for more!

  • @aloidia2122
    @aloidia2122 5 років тому +43

    It definetly would've been better if the two were combined to have the theatrical ending with Loomis dying alongside with the gorier deaths, but with the smoother timeline explaining parts the theatrical cut removed.

    • @noesunyoutuber7680
      @noesunyoutuber7680 3 роки тому +2

      Some sick fan of Halloween 6 with will probably make such a cut some day. Just gotta color grade the two to match, made easier since the producer's cut is practically raw footage without an intense grade to work against.

    • @HyperXero52
      @HyperXero52 2 роки тому

      I wanna do this someday and call it the "definitive version". Then I upload it to UA-cam

  • @bourbonernie9534
    @bourbonernie9534 5 років тому +1

    I love your videos, J.A.J. Please keep making this series.

  • @dingusdingusman
    @dingusdingusman 5 років тому +2

    I tuned in for parts of the editing livestream, and these look much harder to edit than a kill count. The extra effort required is totally gonna pay off and bring some more variety to the channel, though, so keep up all the hard work you do! I'm a huge fan already :)

  • @JYC1221
    @JYC1221 5 років тому +25

    You should’ve said let’s cut to the comparison

    • @MaxT-SFX
      @MaxT-SFX 5 років тому +3

      I thought the same thing.

  • @TocapoprainbowRose
    @TocapoprainbowRose 5 років тому +50

    17:20 when your mom says we're all out of pizza rolls

  • @poopypants8815
    @poopypants8815 Рік тому +2

    Unbelievable how different they are. And yet I absolutely love both 🤦🏼‍♂️ Great video.

  • @atgosh
    @atgosh 5 років тому +1

    I'm definitely down with the Cut Comparisons. I love James' insight into the processes that go into making a movie- he makes learning fun!
    And another series means more Dead Meat, and that's something we all want

  • @rauleduardorebolledoaranda9358
    @rauleduardorebolledoaranda9358 5 років тому +8

    As per usual, James, you always find new ways to bring something fresh and cool to the channel, we as viewers really appreciate the effort you put to each and everyone of this series. I loved the Cut Comparison, is a great addition to Dead Meat. Keep the good work, pal!

  • @ItsOnlyAbe
    @ItsOnlyAbe 5 років тому +18

    Everytime you upload, I get excited.

  • @thalia9789
    @thalia9789 4 роки тому

    Please continue this series, it was brilliant!

  • @FuzzySoulTiger
    @FuzzySoulTiger 3 роки тому +1

    Very good detailed work. Never knew about the Producer's version of the film until now. 🐯