A few interesting counter-points to this attack: 1) It only works on locks mounted the 'correct' way up; so no Euro cylinders or padlocks that are being held with the pin stack facing downwards, because gravity will cause the outer key pins to drop with the outer drivers, blocking the shear to both the outer and inner pin stacks. 2) Actually making a tool that resembles a 5-armed piece of wire , that will fit around the warding of a MTL and also have the ability to raise the inner pins this far is VERY difficult to make. It is not impossible I do not think...but very difficult. 3) While this attack has ostensibly been fixed in more recent MTL's, I have noticed that many KIK's actually have holes in the roof of the chamber caps. I do not know why they do this, and if there is even the tiniest of space (and there has to be approximately 1mm instantly available from the chamber cap thickness and the ridge above it that keeps it in place) then this attack could still be on the table for KIK's with chamber caps like this. Anybody know why KIK's chamber caps have these holes in them? Seems totally pointless and makes the fix for this attack potentially useless!
Very cool so see the history and enhancement of pins. Thanks for showing us this cool lock. Did I get this right. To exploit the flaw you must first use this overset tool and then you would pick the (5-pin) lock?
VARY WELL EXPLAINED THANK YOU.Are you sure your not a surgeon lol Lock picking surgeon.you have some steady hands.nice multi lock how old did you say.THANKS again for sharing. 😎😎😎😎😎
Very nice pick, and explanation. 1 question though... So the drivers that you see with the inner pin afixed to the outter pin are subseptable to the overset tactic??
hi LPL, it looks like 6th inner and outer pins are of the same length, while looking on a key, is this not a compromise to security? does it make easier to pick, while you have inner and outer pins really close to each other in terms of their length, please? thanks
Not at all. There are not many people around that can open MTL's that quickly, and I'd venture that someone with criminal intent would be exceedingly unlikely to invest the hundreds of hours required to get this proficient!
Hi, i have been trying to pick one of these multilock cilinder for a while , tried around 15 times , with no succes at all, can you give some advise on how to proceed for a successful picking? Thanks
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A few interesting counter-points to this attack:
1) It only works on locks mounted the 'correct' way up; so no Euro cylinders or padlocks that are being held with the pin stack facing downwards, because gravity will cause the outer key pins to drop with the outer drivers, blocking the shear to both the outer and inner pin stacks.
2) Actually making a tool that resembles a 5-armed piece of wire , that will fit around the warding of a MTL and also have the ability to raise the inner pins this far is VERY difficult to make. It is not impossible I do not think...but very difficult.
3) While this attack has ostensibly been fixed in more recent MTL's, I have noticed that many KIK's actually have holes in the roof of the chamber caps. I do not know why they do this, and if there is even the tiniest of space (and there has to be approximately 1mm instantly available from the chamber cap thickness and the ridge above it that keeps it in place) then this attack could still be on the table for KIK's with chamber caps like this. Anybody know why KIK's chamber caps have these holes in them? Seems totally pointless and makes the fix for this attack potentially useless!
This lock has been added to my brain list of favorites.
:-)
Very nicely done! I don't think I have ever seen and the old style pins before...very cool!! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks. A first for me as well.
L.P.Lawyer, If you expertise of the legal system is on par with your lock picking skills, your the one I'll call if I need a expert attorney.
Thanks... like anything in life, both worlds require absurd amounts of preparation to do well!
Or ... He can open your cuffs so you can run free :)
That fly at 2:22 made me look twice, I thought it was a spider!
LOL me too
I saw that when shooting the vid... Almost stopped the vid, but figured it was so small that no one would see it. Oops.
Great job picking as usual brother, loved the history lesson on the mul-t-lock journey. Thanks for sharing it with us!
Very cool so see the history and enhancement of pins. Thanks for showing us this cool lock. Did I get this right. To exploit the flaw you must first use this overset tool and then you would pick the (5-pin) lock?
Yes... overset the outer pins, turn as far as you can, then pick the inners (which is easy because they are now over the outer key pins).
Nice pick! You are a DEMON with Mul-T-Locks!
>:-) Thanks
What is the best key lock in the system you would recommend for front door?
VARY WELL EXPLAINED THANK YOU.Are you sure your not a surgeon lol Lock picking surgeon.you have some steady hands.nice multi lock how old did you say.THANKS again for sharing. 😎😎😎😎😎
Quite sure. If I try surgery on someone, the police will come looking for me.
LockPickingLawyer understood. lol
Very interesting, thanks for the video 👍
:-)
Also, mul-t’s can be picked with cheap mul-t key. Just hold and wiggle
very nice pick m8 very good info👍😊😊
Thanks
Very nice pick,
and explanation.
1 question though...
So the drivers that you see with the inner pin afixed to the outter pin are subseptable to the overset tactic??
The ones with the inner pins attached are the new ones.
hi LPL, it looks like 6th inner and outer pins are of the same length, while looking on a key, is this not a compromise to security? does it make easier to pick, while you have inner and outer pins really close to each other in terms of their length, please? thanks
Another smooth pick. you make it look way too easy.
Thanks.
I dont understand those holes on the side of the key?
Don't miss out the 0:42 mark, Wyle E. Coyote explosives layout plan is shown on screen.
Awesome!
Thanks
Need to find that fly so we can get a description of the LPL...
Thanks!!
Should I worry??? That's the lock I use on my house!?!
Not at all. There are not many people around that can open MTL's that quickly, and I'd venture that someone with criminal intent would be exceedingly unlikely to invest the hundreds of hours required to get this proficient!
Sir you are just killing multi lock. Nice picking as always.
Thanks
sir I just purchased a goso dimple pick set and wanted to ask you want a good cheap starter dimple lock you would recommend
+Arizona Outdoor Survival Look at the Yardeni locks on eBay.
Thank you sir I sure will
put it this way no ones guna pick this lock if the lawyer is taken this long... lol
This is on the front door of my house...
When you get counter rotation, is that a spool pin?
Hi, i have been trying to pick one of these multilock cilinder for a while , tried around 15 times , with no succes at all, can you give some advise on how to proceed for a successful picking? Thanks
What tool are you using?
Wtf nothing on 1 Oh that's me in
say hello to Bertie at 02:22
finally a lock that i can pick and unlucky is in my school :D
SO basically this is very old and obsolete in Europe. And you still have the crappy style locks in USA? Amazing.
What is the best key lock in the system you would recommend for front door?