Jeep Wrangler 2.0 TUNED on Dyno , Eurocompulsion
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Eurocompulsion Tuned Wrangler 2.0 on the dyno. I compare stock dyno results to the Euro+Drive and the Power Booster results, both are good tuning options from Eurocompulsion.
Eurocompulsion Jeep Page: shopeurocompul...
Euro+Drive tune: shopeurocompul...
Power Booster: shopeurocompul...
Jeep Build and Development: shopeurocompul...
Metric Power and Torque 274hp and 358NM.
Eurocompulsion Jeep Page: shopeurocompulsion.net/collections/jeep-wrangler-jl-2-0l
Euro+Drive tune: shopeurocompulsion.net/collections/jeep-wrangler-jl-2-0l/products/euro-drive-ecu-tuning-direct-clone-jeep-wrangler-jl-2-0l-turbo
Power Booster: shopeurocompulsion.net/collections/jeep-wrangler-jl-2-0l/products/copy-of-power-booster-alfa-romeo-giulia-stelvio-2-0l
Jeep Build and Development: shopeurocompulsion.net/blogs/eurocompulsion-development/ec-jeep-wrangler-jl-2-0l-build-development
Run the jeep with R-2800
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I second this 😂😅
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That's a good looking power curve for a Jeep. Tons of torque down in a day to day useable rpm range. Well done. I am kind of surprised to see a tuner offering a new ECU tune at a time when most shops are being frightened out of the market.
Thanks, good observation on the effort to get the power into a usable range for this type of vehicle. Regarding tuning, we have a very advanced dyno and a 5 gas analyzer. We take great pains to make sure our tune is as clean or better than factory and we retain all emission controls and their functions.
I subscribed for aircraft but man I do get excited everytime you post a car video, I think it's because I can actually understand it better while I'm not listening
It's interesting seeing the contrast on the topic of cars between knowledgeable enthusiasts (and I presume mechanic) like Greg, and guys like Scotty Kilmer. Scotty will tell you all day every day: run away from all small turbo'd engines, Ford Eco's, and modern Jeeps, BMW's and VW's in general. But Scotty's perspective is geared towards his audience which are mostly a) buying the vehicle at 100,000mi+ , and b) low income backyard mechanics, sharing his knowledge that directly translates into saving significant $ for guys like me. Scotty's work is gold, but he does have the bias of what he saw in his shop the most. So he'll tell you Dodge Caravans are crap, get a Sienna. And although the Sienna is a better van, his perspective is not adjusted for the sheer numbers of Caravans vs. Siennas. As a professional driver, I witnessed great durability with the 2nd generation Caravans with high mileage. Anyway, cool rigs Greg, I wish you well. Today is a good day for an oil change.
Turbos have many decades of proven service in sports cars, passenger cars, and long haul trucking. Small turbo engines are great, plenty of power and good fuel economy. I don't know what Scotty's issue is with them as I don't watch his videos. I can say that I have a Fiat 500L with 140k on it, most of that with way more than stock power and the engine is still like new inside.
Scotty's perspective is that of a click bait grifter.
Signed 20 year diagnostic specialist technician.
@@Neil_ guys like you are often very helpful on forums to which their specialized vehicles pertain, so thanks if that was you over the years. I think Scotty's old-school advice has its place, but I've learned more from forums.
@@BearfootBob Scotty once recommended compression fittings for brake line repair. I'm sorry you've been taken. I would strongly recommend moving on.
Eeek. As a mechanical engineer, a long time mechanic, fabricator, and tuner. . .I cannot recommend UA-camrs such as S. Kilmer. These channels make lots of money for useful idiots, who pander to those who know very little about how cars actually work.
Shopping mall queen, - 7:28 great tag, thanks! - In my town there's a major repaving project going on, lots of asphalt "curbs" at intersections and people need to obey the conditions. What cracks me up is the most nancy vehicles I get stuck behind are rough rider jeeps and trucks who drive like they're in the wilderness fording boulder strewn creek beds while the Corolla zips away. Sorry, had to vent. #humor
Thanks for working on the jeep 2.0 T. I hear all the time that Jeep kinda just tossed a turbo 4 banger in there and it looks like it was to say “ see we have one too” but it was crap so later they could quietly drop it and go back to what they like which is the n/a v6😢
Now we have a tune that will hopefully make it work good!!
It's a great engine. It started as an Alfa Romeo engine, which was great, but Jeep improved it in several ways.
It’s really a great engine. Definitely not an afterthought. Traded in a 6cyl Jeep for a 2.0t and have never regretted it.
Guess you heard wrong...LMAO
That's an impressive amount of torque Greg. I've still got my 05 Jeep liberty with a 2.8L common rail diesel because 300+ ft-lbs of torque from a turbo four banger is just lovely to drive. It's nice to see FCA doing this kind of improvement in their vehicle development, as these smaller turbo engines are great when properly engineered(I'm looking at YOU Ford).
Deal is none of them are well engineered, imo timing chains in the rear of the head , bs high pressure pump failure, every time thousands when this junk fails.
@@dennisford2000Well that may be true. All I've seen is corner cutting and under thinking at the blue oval. I haven't gotten as deep into the FCA or GM small turbo engines, but cost will always dictate innovation in our current economic system.
I hope there will be a boost to this platform that comes from the Hurricane I6 Platform with so much being shared between both platforms
I'm hoping for that as well, but I really want to see that engine in performance car.
I was thinking, "What's this thing about a jeep, I thought this guy was about planes". The I saw the channel name. I have never seen anything on this channel about cars. I'm sure there's been many but none have reached my UA-cam recommendations. Only planes.
Hmm, well, I have a lot of car videos.
Thank you
Just here to ask a standard jeep question. What tires are on the jeep in the thumbnail? I have a 3.6 JK so the rest doesn’t apply. Love all your content Greg.
I don't recall, I'll check it on Monday.
If you ever find yourself wanting to do some tinkering around with Jaguars I’d be happy to help however I can. I have an XJR tuned to 610hp currently.
Are you in Tulsa?
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles No sir, I’m about 15 miles north of Detroit. I have the distinct honor of being the only person I am aware of in metro Detroit that will still work on the 6.0L and 5.3L V12s (slight sarcasm there, it’s typically more hassle than it’s worth). I could certainly provide you with any service information you may ever need at the very least, If you want to ship a car to Detroit that could probably be figured out too.
I don't deal with Jags much, but if you were local I would have liked to see your XJR.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I’d be more than happy to send you some pictures and provide you with my contact information on the off chance you need some service procedures, wiring diagrams, torque specs, etc… (I also do Land Rover as well). I’m just not sure there is a way to do that via the comments section.
well i'm not a car fanatic but well lets see what i can learn
You’re running it on the Dino in four-wheel-drive!!
No, I'm running it on the dyno in two wheel drive. The front rollers are hydraulically powered to spin up and match the speed of the rear rollers. That way the Jeep doesn't know it's on a dyno as all the Jeep's wheel speed sensors see the same speeds.
The ease of a plug and play module sounds appealing. I find troubleshooting and tweaking an item that is new to me quite frustrating. Is the upgraded intake an easy install as well?
Mike, yes, the installation of any of these items are easy. The ECU tune (Euro+Drive) is simple because the ECU in the Jeep is easy to get to.
When will the clone ecu’s be back in stock I want the extra power from the euro tune but I don’t Wanta have to plug in a bunch of harnesses and sensors just put in the new flashed ecu or did I hear that wrong that that was an option?!??
We are redoing these. They will be back when ready. If you need something now, the power booster is a good option, almost as much power, less money and easy to hood up. It only connects to two sensor and they are easy to access.
Worked on a willies with a cj5 body on it. Rebuilt the carb on the og 4 cylinder motor, hilariously low hp motor but it would crawl up snowdrifts in low range. Guy wanted to swap the motor, did some research and was surprised everyone was going for v8s. This motor would be way better, lighter and more powerful if you could get the electronics to agree with the swap, would you be able to do that type of ecu programming? Could be a cool product, I haven't done much research on that specifically so I apologize if I'm off base. Ended up just keeping the motor and installing electric power steering as the original motor didn't have the juice to run the hydraulic system. Anyways, all the best.
This motor is great for swaps, however I wouldn't want to try it with the stock ECU, it just ties into to many other things and won't be happy without all it's other ECU friends. A better idea would be to use something like SDSefi to control the motor with a swap.
Nice gains for a 4 pot but the new Wrangler hybrid seems doubly cool with all that torque down low
Maybe, but based on my experience with Chrysler and FCA the last thing I want from them is more electrical stuff that will fail. Cheap aluminum wiring with soy based insulation that rodents love to eat, low quality connectors, flaky relays and switches with 1/3 the life of everyone else's. I could go on an on. Now I do like quite a few Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis vehicles, but I won't be getting one of their electrics.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles does FCA still use soy based wires? I thought that was a late 90s trend that euro manufacturers stopped doing
I’m on year 4 of my Jeep 2.0t w/ etorque with zero issues…
How is the now that its been on there for a year now? Just curious. Also i have a 22 Jlu Rubicon 2.0t w/ mishimoto charge pipe, turbosmart bov, flowmaster 3" outlaw exhaust, and s&b cai ... guesstimation on amout of gains using your system and do you guys do anything like sale of a modified ecu with a core charge u purchase and i send my stock one back upon receiving your product and i get core charge back... look forward to your response
The Jeep is doing very well with the tune. In fact my daughter has it on a trip right now in the mountains in another state. As for your questions on sending in a stock one, core charge etc. All the details of those topics are here: shopeurocompulsion.net/collections/jeep-wrangler-jl-2-0l-engine/products/tunerlink-obdii-tuning-system-jeep-wrangler-jl-2-0l-turbo
Damn and thata with bigger tires
I found a great deal on a low mile Ford Explorer, but it has the 2.3 turbo. I still worry about longevity of tiny engines (turbo or not), hauling heavy SUVs. Maybe I'm just too used to my GM 3800 supercharged cars turning ~1600 RPM at 70mph on the interstate and still pulling vacuum,. Granted, it's not a stretch to say the 3800 was one of the greatest engines of all time - though clearly dated now. I assume on long, heat soaked drives modern computers can adjust timing/etc on these small engines so fast that it doesn't risk superheating the valves, but I dunno. Maybe I'm officially old (or at least stuck in old school). The other aspect is, as impressive as the smaller forced induction engines are, they seem to have to work so hard that there is often no real gain in fuel economy vs SUVs from 15 years ago. I ultimately bought a Saab 9-7x 5.3i back when gas was $4 a gallon the last time because with a 300hp V8, it got the same gas mileage as similar sized/weight Japanese SUVs with much less powerful V6s. Sure there's a lot that goes into mpg, and just imagine if GM had adopted a 5 or 6 speed auto as early as almost everyone else.... but anyway.
How does the tune affect gas consumption?
Back in the day we got more power and better gas mileage tweeting things ( especially for torque). 😎
It was no effect on fuel economy during normal driving. Of course when at full throttle it's going to use more fuel as it's making more power.
my 2011 jeep sahara was an awful thing to drive, especially across country 4 times lol. the throttle response was the absolute worst. if i recall it was due to drive by wire type bull$hit where the throttle was sent electronically and not a physical connection. not really positive about the functionality of it. the engine was so weak, we had to unload some of our stuff from the trailer at one point! and it was a small uhaul. it was our 3rd jeep and the only one that i noticed the poor throttle response. hoping they dont use that crappy technology anymore because i would like to get another jeep. We got rid of the slow poke soon after the last cross country trip. i will say that when i added a K & N air system it was noticeably better as was the MPG. i know, i know ....people are gonna say those kits dont do anything but with our shitty jeep it sure did. from 13-14 mpg towing a trailer to 16-17mpg towing the same damn trailer so it sure did improve the jeeps performance. Just not enough that i kept it.
The new Jeep 2.0 is just excellent. Almost modern cars use the drive by wire throttle, I don't know of any current production cars sold in the US that don't. That said, the tune does improve the throttle response. We also sell a device which will do that if you don't need more power.
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thanks Greg! I Figured all vehicles had this set up but the 2011 jeep was the most noticeable. ill take a peak at the site for my 18 silverado. a car i didn't notice it on was my brother pontiac g8! holy moly that thing was awesomely fast and powerful especially when you press the sport mode button! finally got to drive a car where that button actually made a significant difference.
Greg have you driven an EV yet? Would like to hear your experiences and opinions on electric vehicles. February 2022 I purchased a Chevy Bolt that is surprisingly fun to drive. Hoping to test drive a Tesla in the near future. I enjoy all of your aviation and car videos. Keep up the great work!
I rode in a Tesla several times. It's fine, I'm not crazy about it, but I don't think it's a bad car, it's just not for me.
The problem, and the only problem, with EV's is the limitations of the batteries. 1400 kg of batteries = what? 7 gallons of gas? And then there's the deep cycle issue...
Well a tesla is obviously a bad car when you look at the built quality and prize.. And when you consider that the company does fake advertising about their auto pilot
@@user-ve7hn2dh8h Wonder how many were expecting this kind of Auto Pilot? (wonder how many have never heard of Airplane...)
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@@scottgiles7546 I do 99% of my driving with the EV. Keep a gas vehicle for long road trips. Once the charging situation improves I will probably go full electric.
I would like to know if anyone has figured out how to put/use snorkels on the recent jeep designs, where they don't even have a panel for it anymore (unless that has recently changed) one of reasons I didn't get a jeep back in 2017.
It's more complicated than that. You could put a snorkel on this type of Jeep, however it would be pointless because there are many many things under the hood that would stop the engine dead if they were submerged in water so the snorkel if installed wouldn't do any good. The factory intake box takes in air from a point above most if not all of the other critical items.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Thank you! first time anyone has explained it that way.
I'm here to help :)
Does this tune produce safe AFR’s as to not reduce engine reliability ? I’m looking at buying a new jeep 2dr. A little more pep in its step would make it a blast to drive. Cheers.
Yes, the AFR's are very safe, even safer than the stock tune.
I'm considering the EC powerbooster for a Giulia. Any reason I should pick EC rather then maxpower pro/jb4/racechip etc?
I think there are a lot of reasons. First of all, we are the fastest, and have the time from a real drag strip to prove it. I also think our stuff is the most reliable, but of course that's difficult to quantify. I can't offer a comparison to each of those items you listed because it would take too long to type, but the price, reliability and performance of the EC powerbooster is ahead of the others and we drive Alfas everyday and answer the phone when you need help. Feel free to call us.
Greg, what are your thoughts on the Crosley Farm-O-Road?
I haven't ever seen one.
Still passing emissions, or does it go full VW on them?
VW beat the system by taking advantage of the fact that EPA testing was on a 2wd dyno. The car would act differently under those conditions then it did on a real road. Notice what type of dyno I'm using.
Do you have a system for the 3.6 Jeep motor?
Hi Duane. We don't at least not yet. I am looking into it.
How did you achieve the massive torque gain, is this from accessing the TCU unlocking more torque?
I'm not sure what you mean by "unlocking". The power and torque gains come primarily from changes to manifold pressure, air fuel ratios, and ignition timing. There are secondary factors as well, but the primary ones give most of the gains.
Few questions.
How does the booster compare to a JB4?
Are you able to adjust/flash the tune if you buy the cloned ECU? Or does the tune adjust for new intakes or exhaust setups etc?
I consider the booster to be a better option than the JB4. The cloned tune or the booster will be fine with intake and exhaust upgrades. They will both adjust for the target parameters with no extra programming.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Why do you consider the booster a better option than the JB4? I'm really trying to dig into info on the power booster for a giulia.
I enjoyed my trucks and cars when i could tune them with a screwdriver and a hack saw instead of a $500 computer and $200 chips or bluetooth devices :😂
Do you guys have anything for the 4xe?
I'm afraid not.
Why when this engineers in the alpha can we pull more power ?
I do not understand the question. I read it twice, but it just doesn't make sense.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles In the alpha romeo application Aren't people getting crazy horsepower and talk out of them?
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles With the same engine
I have the fastest 1/4 Mile Alfa Giulia with the 2.0 Turbo engine that's verifiable, meaning a time slip from a real dragstrip with proof that it came from my car. It ran 12.39 at 116mph. I wouldn't call it crazy power, but it certainly has a lot, I have an entire video on that car. The Giulia's engine is quite similar to the one in the Jeep, but not the same, more importantly the Jeep has a different type of usage thus needed different tuning parameters. Nobody with an Alfa is worried about turning 35 inch tires.
I really wish you guys would post metric at the bottom of the page. There are 350m of you and 8 billion of us.
I haven't seen one of these Jeeps overseas, although I guess they must be there.
I say the same thing when the creator only posts in metric measurements, a lot of the time I will unsubscribe if they don’t post both measurements
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I am actually looking at buying a Jeep in Germany. I want to see if I can build a bed in the back first - to go off-grid in the Pyrenees.
@@daseteam The metric numbers are 274hp and 458NM. I'm sure you can build a bed in the back. Also there is a tent that attaches to the back as well for more living space. It's quite possible to take an extended adventure in one of these and the 2.0 turbo gets quite good fuel economy for what it is.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Thanks. The big appeal for me is the relatively small engine. You probably know how much fuel costs per liter in Europe. We also have a diesel Renegade. Will look at the inside of that too.
Ugh. Have one but hate Texas and Jeeps since every high schooler and Soccer mom adopted them and has one. Went from cool to far right Uncool on the Top Gear wall.
You love that Italian stuff! Why?...lol
You know you want another Fiat dyno video.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Yes Daddy!...🤣
shame, all these small turbo motors all die well before 6000.
That's more frustrating on a sports car. On a Jeep, it doesn't really matter.
well talking about dino is like testing result !! otherwise reprogram the system is anorher...subject
same guys who say you cant dyno a fiat lol
Nope, never said that. In fact we have had dyno results on our site for Fiats since 2012. I literally have dynos videos of Fiats on this youtube channel. So you didn't hear me say you couldn't dyno a Fiat, what you heard is someone else falsely claim that I said that.
😪 4.0 HO Cherokee but I think the head is cracked.
I do think Edelbrock is making an aftermarket aluminum head for it now but _ye gads_ at the price! Then again the HO stock heads are almost the cost since all the rock climbers have been snapping them up.
The 2.0 turbo engine is a much newer design. I do like the old 4.0, in fact I like all the old AMC engines, but none compare to the 2.0 turbo in power fuel economy, or emissions. I also think the new 2.0 will outlast the others, it's a very well made engine. All that said, I'm a fan of the AMC stuff but time has marched on. I like the Buick nailheads too.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles _fuel economy_ is a dirty dirty word!😯
I have an old 4.0 jeep and can't particularly afford to buy a new jeep seeing as to how I worked in the pipeline industry and the idiot killed my industry off on day 🤬 one.
I'm not at all happy about the way the government has intentionally train wrecked that industry. We are all paying for that now in several ways, especially those who work in it. The Jeep 4.0/AMC 6 is a good engine, I'm just pointing out that the new engine is better by most objective standards.
Thank you