I've gotten frustrated with bolt on upgrades as well. I just think I'll leave mine pretty much stock and enjoy what I have. I'm not wanting to win races. If I wanted to do that I'd have purchased a different kind of vehicle. Appreciate the effort though.
I wish a really good company who does these types of tunes would take on the Jeep. I had a 1.8L turbo in my old Audi putting down around 350 HP with parts from APR tunning. Like you said, there is not the aftermarket support for engine upgrades, and I think that is because Jeep never had a small turbo gas engine before. Great video.
Thanks. Hopefully if the channel takes off I’ll be able to really dive into the 2.0. As of right now we are trying to figure out what to do with the 6.4.
The biggest issue with tuning these 2.0s is that jeep put a tiny turbo on it and turned the boost way up (I think stock is around 24-26psi) if they stuck with a normal size turbo it would be more easily tunable to make big power
@@ViaticalGenie4 I think they meant for it to be a world engine, which most other parts of the world they cant or wont tune for more power. Would most likely be better to change out turbo's while doing a swap.
@Paladin Off-Road yeah they didn't build these to be easily tuneable. They took a cheap reliable turbo and made the power they wanted and that was it. It's not supposed to be a performance vehicle at all. I would love to do a turbo swap myself lol
I've got a custom intake, GFB Diverter w/ BOV Plate, Custom Hi-Flow Catted Downpipe, and straight pipe exhaust on my 2022 Renegade 1.3L and I definitely feel like it drives better and has less turbo lag. However, the lack of tuning makes it frustrating as I've had it dyno'ed as well before it made 168whp and 199lb/ft which I was surprised about considering the factory rating is 177hp and 210lb/ft. Very little loss or it's just making a little more than the factory suggests. With NO TUNING and just adding the modifications 190hp and 242lb/ft of torque. The torque is a HUGE improvement and we also noticed with the New Diverter and better air flow she made about 3 more lbs of boost than the stock run. These make HUGE boost numbers for the tiny engine. Thanks for this video I'd love to do a 2.0L swap into my Renegade one day.
@@therubiconian392 once tuning is available if ever… lol I plan on adding water/meth injection since they surprisingly didn’t make the 1.3L vehicles E85 compatible. 💪🏼💪🏼
I know this is an old video but looking to buy the wife a Jeep of her own and considering the 2.0. Nice video! I'm curious if the Pulsar box tunes are designed to work with all factory components and possibly all the other airflow upgrades you made needed a different/ custom tune. Looking forward to checking out the rest of your catalog.
I pushed mine with 3” full exhaust and downpipe, Mishimoto Charge pipe, 95 octane mix, vrtune, plus dyno tune, and we got to 252/292 all wheel horsepower, on your RWD you’d probably be at 280-290hp.
Interesting stuff :D I have a 21 rubicon diesel that i am trading in for a 23 rubicon XR 2.0 turbo.. Now i know what i am getting into for a stock 2.0 I will need to adjust my expectations because the diesel is absolutely torquey! Thanks for doing this
Larger intake pipe, 3 inch upcharge pipe, a 3 inch down pipe with 3 inch exhaust pipe all they back to a decent muffler with get you going..... also adjusting the the AFR and Boost from waste gate. not sure what the sock boost PSI is on that turbo.
I just bought a Jeep and have done some of the mods. Thankyou for your time spent to do this and share with the community. What's the sticker on your jeep with the Beret?
Part of the reason you aren't seeing gains is PCM/TCM torque management. Unless you get an unlocked PCM and do a proper tune with HP Tuners you can't adjust the torque management. Since the piggyback tuner is modifying values to make more power....the PCM senses more power and uses torque management to bring the power back to the stock levels
@TnTTyler I was thinking the exact same thing! Sure makes me curious what you could make a 2.0t KL feel like. @The Rubiconian, I'm curious how the mods affected your fuel economy? I would expect it to get a bit better as long as your not putting your foot to it.
@@jairpark9846 I'm just not sure why people think now in 2022, when Jeep (Stellantis) has been locking PCM's since MY2015 so 7 years later that a simple plug and play device is magically going to get horsepower. I feel like a broken record saying this but I wish more people would catch on as it would save them lots of money.
@@TnTTyler hope. Most don't realize that the powertrain control strangles output. Look at Litebrite... 6.4l with 600 at the crank put 330 to the rear hubs.
Thanks, hopefully one day I can be like the big channels. Be sure to spread the love and I’ll keep it real! Got a couple builds I’m gonna do to help raise money for the channel and do some giveaways. Off-road stuff but not exactly jeeps.
That Pulsar XT doesn't seem to be doing anything, 22psi in hotter weather is stock levels for this platform. HP Tuners released support for this platform just recently and I think a custom tune would be the best bet through their calibrations. A side note, the only other tune that seems to work the best aside from a custom HP Tuners tune, is the JB4. Last year my 2 door sport, with factory sized tires, put down 333whp and 470wtq with bolt ons like yours, JB4 tune on a custom map 6 tuned myself and a single port methanol injection setup. I'm now running a dual port meth injection setup, and have since revised the tune, it is quite a bit faster than last year but have yet to dyno it. I'm guessing somewhere in the 350-360whp range. On the Dragy and at a drag strip, I've managed to pull a 13.4@101 before the new setup. So I'm knocking on the door of a 12 second pass. The JB4 and the universal BMS water meth kit is the best money I've ever spent on vehicle mods hands down. I've used JB4 in the past when I was in the VW world so I know my way around the software interface and and how to tune and read logs, and the JB4 never disappoints.
So which level tune did you go with on the programming? I know you said lvl 3 had the highest peak but you explained that each one behaved differently? Would like to know which you chose..
@@blakemarchand6650 Better overall drivability but I didn’t consider it worth the cost on the programmer. The charge pipe definitely not worth it short term but it may become beneficial switching from plastic to metal in a high heat area. The exhaust was totally worth it. Cold air intake gave a better response on the highway.
I’ve done all bolts in on my 2015 jk and didn’t notice much of a difference to tell you the truth I notice a difference with the pedal commander even though there no hp gains🤷🏽♂️ thus built on my 2022 Jt I’m only doing a corsa catback exhaust and saving my money for suspension upgrades
I have a 21 rubicon 2 door 2.0 and this was very helpful , currently running 35s on methods and vanity is pulling towards 37s just looking for proper lift so as not to ruin drivability. Keep it coming need all info so I can make the right choices( since we’re running similar rigs)
If it build power off of exhaust maybe opening the exhaust takes away from the force to the turbo. Try it with everything but stock exhaust to spin the turbo better
@@therubiconian392 I am not a trained mechanic just a Oilfield Man. So thank you for answering this and I hope you look back and remember all your trial and error as a fond fun experience.
First time watching your videos. Have you re geared with the 37s? That would make a difference. Overall do you like the 2 ltr ? I'm looking to buy one so I was doing a little research.
This was with the stock 4.10 gears. The Jeep honestly had no problems with the 37’s. That being said it is the 2 door. The 2.0L has a ton of torque and gets moving way faster than the 3.6
Piggyback tuners and exhaust/intake aren't going to do much. Turbo cars generally respond well to tuning, but you'll have to get in the tables and raise the boost pressure and tune for high octane fuel.
The boost is already at 22lbs, we tried to pull the tables but the tuner we had couldn’t. The Jeep has always run better with 93 octane already. These little 2.0’s are already peaky. But yes actual tuning is better. But the point of the video was to demonstrate what all the promises from all the after market companies amass to be. I’ll do one more tuner and then we’ll do the dyno-tuning. If I can find a tuner willing to do a Jeep. Otherwise we’ll Hemi-Swap the two door.
Great Video! What size tires/rims are those and have you had any clearance issues with the 2.5" lift? Also have you installed any aftermarket tech to calibrate the speedometer for the bigger tires?
Hope you're running 93 octane from Shell/Mobile/BP/Sunoco. Figure out where all the local 93 octane pump gas is in your area so your never forced to settle.
After watching it again, listen to the load against the rear tire. The jeep revs faster the second time on the Dyno. I’m sticking with the load not being set the same from one run to the other.
Question. Considering that ALL Fiat umbrella cars with a 2.0 turbo from 2016-2023 are using the same FCA global medium engine Could you do the same Tune for a 2019 2.0 Turbo Cherokee TrailHawk since the they exact same engine. I have one and am seeing is there’s any way to give it a bump in power.
In theory, yes. I’ve already given up on the project though. Lack of support via tuners is a major reason. I live in an area with dragsters and hot rods. They didn’t seem too interested in messing with the 2.0.
Manufacturers put a ton of R&D engineering $ into efficiency. There isn’t a lot of unclaimed HP for aftermarket bolt ons anymore. Times have changed. And if you do modify newer stuff it will come with a trade-off; it will likely be nosier, less reliable, put more wear on parts, void your warranty, etc.
Couple questions, how many miles between installing the parts/tune and re-dynoing? Hopefully at least a few hundred miles :) I assume post tune was run on Premium fuel?
I only added the afe cold air intake on my 22 2.0. I got a check engine light. Is there any advice you could give? Do i need the aftermarket turbo as well? Or to get tuned?
There’s a air valve that connects to the stock box. I cut mine out of the stock air box and hooked it into the aftermarket lines. That’s what is throwing the code. Happened on mine. I thought I mentioned it in the video. If not I’ll look.
@@therubiconian392 hey! Yeh i went over video again. I dont think i seen a mention of it. I did see the set up visually for a few seconds and the tube part does look diff than what i have. Could you maybe explain how you go that set up? Would really appreciate it!
For that you would need to see an HPI tuner. The new CPU’s require tuning credits. See a reputable tuner about that. You may want to make sure the pulse width of the injectors and valve train are capable of handling higher RPM’s They shot for torque more than hp so it may not like spinning faster.
Very cool. I just picked up a 2018 Rubicon JLU with the 2.0. How hard is it to change the spark plugs? Dealership says the intake manifold needs to be removed. $500-$600 they say. Just subscribed to the channel. Thanks
I get that this was a bolt on video but plug in “tuners” suck lol they don’t control enough inputs because there’s a lot of variables to make it safe. Last thing they want is to be tagged as a plug tuner that blows your jeep up 😂take it to a real tuner and have someone tune it for real, I bet you’ll get consistent 270-285hp numbers on 37s no problem. Maybe more. Just my two cents that no one asked for 💪🏼😂
@@therubiconian392 thanks. I want a diesel but may have to settle for a 2.0t I live rurally so most of not all my driving is 55-65ish 37s are a must tho
Eh, some of us aren’t meant to go slow through life. I came from sports cars and race cars. So, I wanted as much kick as I could get. I’ve since bought a 392 wrangler and absolutely love it. Best of both worlds. But I get what you’re saying and I agree also. Thanks for watching! Subscribe if you want and let me know what you would like to see in a video.
Yes JB4 for me as well along with mishimoto intercooler pipe and cold air intake. With a flowmaster force II muffler. I have pushed over 25 lbs of boost with 35/12.5/20s getting 25 mpg
I work at a jeep store and own a wrangler 4xe. On my 4xe anyways which has the turbo engine. In 2wd it limits power output to help prevent wheel spin. When I go into 4wd auto it creates max power. I wonder it this is what is happening here.
That blowoff valve kept giving me a check engine light. Got tired of resetting it every time I drove the damn thing so I removed it. No more check engine light!
@@therubiconian392 Jeep Needs to Stop Lying it states 270 Hp on the 2022 ... great Video it would see One Part at a time, but I know that's a hassle but just to See the best Bang for the Buck ....Thanks
@@hushmoney2058 It’s $150/hour on the dyno. If I had more subscribers and such I could do things like that. But yes underwhelmed, the v6 makes even less.
@@therubiconian392 Heck no!! I'm sorry that I stated this like a total A-hole! What I was trying to say is we want to learn from you, because you know your stuff. You don't need music for Subs. Especially the non-Copyrighted stuff. Again, I'm sorry for acting like a troll. As a peace offering, I'm your newest Sub. Thank you for your content.
@@Tunaslayer1 well, that makes way more sense. I appreciate your candor and applaud your honesty. For sure I’ll try to do better. All my content is just shot and edited with my cellphone. If things really take off then I’ll have some professional do all the sound and stuff. As for the montages, I think it’s because I grew up in the 80-90’s when they were in every movie and tv show lol. I try to put something out for everyone. It’s a work in progress. Welcome aboard, Rubi-cronie !!!
@@Tunaslayer1 just having fun. Everyone pray we can scrape some money together for some new content. The 392 was outta my budget but I needed a 4 door and wasn’t about to pass up one.
The reason your dynos suck is because of the obese wheels and tires. Do dynos with stock wheels and tires. You dont want to tune your engine with massive weights for running gear
Got a kick out of the airbox on your head definitely something id be doing as im supposed to be installing it
Gotta try it, always!
Big thanks for this, really helps me know what to expect!
This is exactly why I do this
Love the Rubi. I have a 2020 all black 2 door Rubicon on 33x12.5s. Good to see more 2 door Jeeps. You got yourself a new sub 🤙🇺🇸
Awesomeness I look forward to seeing you out there on the trails
I've gotten frustrated with bolt on upgrades as well. I just think I'll leave mine pretty much stock and enjoy what I have. I'm not wanting to win races. If I wanted to do that I'd have purchased a different kind of vehicle. Appreciate the effort though.
I have the same exact vehicle but went with the 3.6L E-Torque…it really moves!
I bet it does! I wanted that but the 2.0 was on the lot and I’m not very patient
@@therubiconian392 Same Lol
I wish a really good company who does these types of tunes would take on the Jeep. I had a 1.8L turbo in my old Audi putting down around 350 HP with parts from APR tunning. Like you said, there is not the aftermarket support for engine upgrades, and I think that is because Jeep never had a small turbo gas engine before. Great video.
Thanks. Hopefully if the channel takes off I’ll be able to really dive into the 2.0. As of right now we are trying to figure out what to do with the 6.4.
The biggest issue with tuning these 2.0s is that jeep put a tiny turbo on it and turned the boost way up (I think stock is around 24-26psi) if they stuck with a normal size turbo it would be more easily tunable to make big power
@@ViaticalGenie4 I think they meant for it to be a world engine, which most other parts of the world they cant or wont tune for more power. Would most likely be better to change out turbo's while doing a swap.
@Paladin Off-Road yeah they didn't build these to be easily tuneable. They took a cheap reliable turbo and made the power they wanted and that was it. It's not supposed to be a performance vehicle at all. I would love to do a turbo swap myself lol
I've got a custom intake, GFB Diverter w/ BOV Plate, Custom Hi-Flow Catted Downpipe, and straight pipe exhaust on my 2022 Renegade 1.3L and I definitely feel like it drives better and has less turbo lag. However, the lack of tuning makes it frustrating as I've had it dyno'ed as well before it made 168whp and 199lb/ft which I was surprised about considering the factory rating is 177hp and 210lb/ft. Very little loss or it's just making a little more than the factory suggests. With NO TUNING and just adding the modifications 190hp and 242lb/ft of torque. The torque is a HUGE improvement and we also noticed with the New Diverter and better air flow she made about 3 more lbs of boost than the stock run. These make HUGE boost numbers for the tiny engine. Thanks for this video I'd love to do a 2.0L swap into my Renegade one day.
That’s some good gains! I wished we’d seen that much of an increase. Good on ya Luke!
@@therubiconian392 once tuning is available if ever… lol I plan on adding water/meth injection since they surprisingly didn’t make the 1.3L vehicles E85 compatible. 💪🏼💪🏼
@@Swoledadof3 heck yeah
This video cracked me up so much! Was not expecting a good laugh
😁👍
Great information getting ready to purchase a Rubicon 2.0
2/4 door?
4 door
@@cgscprspecialist3937 Awesome just some things to know if you go over a 35 inch tire you may want to re-gear
Bigger than 456
@@cgscprspecialist3937 you should be just on the cusp of okay. With 4:10 gears I often shifted out of 8th on the highway above 65
Glad you did this i have every part only difference I have the Mishimoto intake and a snorkle
For science! 😂
Excellent video......Im buying a Jeep wrangler and this is very helpful information.
That’s what I’m here for.
Thanks. I was thinking of getting that turner. I won’t t now, because it doesn’t seem that much gains to consider getting it.
Make them give the public what they want
Next, try the Flashpac and compare. That would be a great video comparison between the pulsar and the flashpac.
It would but now I’ve got a 392… so I gotta figure out what to do with that.
I know this is an old video but looking to buy the wife a Jeep of her own and considering the 2.0. Nice video! I'm curious if the Pulsar box tunes are designed to work with all factory components and possibly all the other airflow upgrades you made needed a different/ custom tune. Looking forward to checking out the rest of your catalog.
Go for it! Regardless the 2.0 is peppy
Thanks, for the content, much appreciated. A new turbo and down pipe would have been a bolt on as well
Hopefully it just shows people the reality of what their purchases do for performance parts.
I pushed mine with 3” full exhaust and downpipe, Mishimoto Charge pipe, 95 octane mix, vrtune, plus dyno tune, and we got to 252/292 all wheel horsepower, on your RWD you’d probably be at 280-290hp.
Beastly
I would have settled for that.
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Interesting stuff :D I have a 21 rubicon diesel that i am trading in for a 23 rubicon XR 2.0 turbo.. Now i know what i am getting into for a stock 2.0
I will need to adjust my expectations because the diesel is absolutely torquey!
Thanks for doing this
Follow the channel. We’ll be doing some comparisons this year
Larger intake pipe, 3 inch upcharge pipe, a 3 inch down pipe with 3 inch exhaust pipe all they back to a decent muffler with get you going..... also adjusting the the AFR and Boost from waste gate. not sure what the sock boost PSI is on that turbo.
27psi
I liked this cause you put your head in the air box I don't even have a deisil jl😂😂
I just bought a Jeep and have done some of the mods. Thankyou for your time spent to do this and share with the community. What's the sticker on your jeep with the Beret?
That’s NCAuto that was Chuck who lifted it
@@therubiconian392 👍
Hi , I have a red rubicon, 2 door
Part of the reason you aren't seeing gains is PCM/TCM torque management. Unless you get an unlocked PCM and do a proper tune with HP Tuners you can't adjust the torque management. Since the piggyback tuner is modifying values to make more power....the PCM senses more power and uses torque management to bring the power back to the stock levels
We’ll that’s terrible 😢
@TnTTyler I was thinking the exact same thing! Sure makes me curious what you could make a 2.0t KL feel like. @The Rubiconian, I'm curious how the mods affected your fuel economy? I would expect it to get a bit better as long as your not putting your foot to it.
@@jairpark9846 it got a touch better. Better drivability
@@jairpark9846 I'm just not sure why people think now in 2022, when Jeep (Stellantis) has been locking PCM's since MY2015 so 7 years later that a simple plug and play device is magically going to get horsepower. I feel like a broken record saying this but I wish more people would catch on as it would save them lots of money.
@@TnTTyler hope. Most don't realize that the powertrain control strangles output. Look at Litebrite... 6.4l with 600 at the crank put 330 to the rear hubs.
I make 350 to the ground with the JL 3.6 procharged.
Really that’s bhp?
Thanks for sharing your research.
I have the exact jeep, minus the leather seats. I was looking forward to a monster 4, but maybe I will leave it alone. I like your channel🙂
Thanks, hopefully one day I can be like the big channels. Be sure to spread the love and I’ll keep it real! Got a couple builds I’m gonna do to help raise money for the channel and do some giveaways. Off-road stuff but not exactly jeeps.
That Pulsar XT doesn't seem to be doing anything, 22psi in hotter weather is stock levels for this platform. HP Tuners released support for this platform just recently and I think a custom tune would be the best bet through their calibrations. A side note, the only other tune that seems to work the best aside from a custom HP Tuners tune, is the JB4. Last year my 2 door sport, with factory sized tires, put down 333whp and 470wtq with bolt ons like yours, JB4 tune on a custom map 6 tuned myself and a single port methanol injection setup. I'm now running a dual port meth injection setup, and have since revised the tune, it is quite a bit faster than last year but have yet to dyno it. I'm guessing somewhere in the 350-360whp range. On the Dragy and at a drag strip, I've managed to pull a 13.4@101 before the new setup. So I'm knocking on the door of a 12 second pass. The JB4 and the universal BMS water meth kit is the best money I've ever spent on vehicle mods hands down. I've used JB4 in the past when I was in the VW world so I know my way around the software interface and and how to tune and read logs, and the JB4 never disappoints.
I’ll give the JB4 a look see. That’s the numbers I was hoping to see
So which level tune did you go with on the programming? I know you said lvl 3 had the highest peak but you explained that each one behaved differently? Would like to know which you chose..
@@scottmcclure4253 great question, I left it in 5
After you install Boltons on a new car you have drive it around a little bit and floor it so the computer can adjust afr’s and Then you dyno it
I’d already done that. There was a couple weeks between dyno sessions.
@@therubiconian392 so what was the final out come ?
@@blakemarchand6650 Better overall drivability but I didn’t consider it worth the cost on the programmer. The charge pipe definitely not worth it short term but it may become beneficial switching from plastic to metal in a high heat area. The exhaust was totally worth it. Cold air intake gave a better response on the highway.
@@therubiconian392 yeah I agree
@@therubiconian392 yeah I agree with all that I am surprised the charge pipe did give you better results though
I’ve done all bolts in on my 2015 jk and didn’t notice much of a difference to tell you the truth I notice a difference with the pedal commander even though there no hp gains🤷🏽♂️ thus built on my 2022 Jt I’m only doing a corsa catback exhaust and saving my money for suspension upgrades
Smart, hopefully some of the tuning community opens up to the market that Jeeps provide. Then I think there would be greater gains.
I have a 21 rubicon 2 door 2.0 and this was very helpful , currently running 35s on methods and vanity is pulling towards 37s just looking for proper lift so as not to ruin drivability. Keep it coming need all info so I can make the right choices( since we’re running similar rigs)
Absolutely!!! Glad to help
If it build power off of exhaust maybe opening the exhaust takes away from the force to the turbo. Try it with everything but stock exhaust to spin the turbo better
It built the same boost with both exhausts
@@therubiconian392 I am not a trained mechanic just a Oilfield Man. So thank you for answering this and I hope you look back and remember all your trial and error as a fond fun experience.
@@Farmer_Dave oh for sure! It was a fun day.
First time watching your videos. Have you re geared with the 37s? That would make a difference. Overall do you like the 2 ltr ? I'm looking to buy one so I was doing a little research.
This was with the stock 4.10 gears. The Jeep honestly had no problems with the 37’s. That being said it is the 2 door. The 2.0L has a ton of torque and gets moving way faster than the 3.6
Piggyback tuners and exhaust/intake aren't going to do much. Turbo cars generally respond well to tuning, but you'll have to get in the tables and raise the boost pressure and tune for high octane fuel.
The boost is already at 22lbs, we tried to pull the tables but the tuner we had couldn’t. The Jeep has always run better with 93 octane already. These little 2.0’s are already peaky. But yes actual tuning is better. But the point of the video was to demonstrate what all the promises from all the after market companies amass to be. I’ll do one more tuner and then we’ll do the dyno-tuning. If I can find a tuner willing to do a Jeep. Otherwise we’ll Hemi-Swap the two door.
If MAP 5 makes more torque what fuel were you using?
93 octane
Great Video! What size tires/rims are those and have you had any clearance issues with the 2.5" lift? Also have you installed any aftermarket tech to calibrate the speedometer for the bigger tires?
17x9 -12 offset, 37/12.50/17. No she’s pretty good unless she’s weighted down and then it will rub when flexed out but otherwise she is okay.
Currently using the Pulsar XT for tire tuning. Very simple
Hope you're running 93 octane from Shell/Mobile/BP/Sunoco. Figure out where all the local 93 octane pump gas is in your area so your never forced to settle.
Yes I ran Shell 93 octane in it during the test.
The power of video editing part.. haha
Turbos love a load. Maybe the Dyno wasn’t loading enough for the numbers to read correctly. It would also explain the inconsistency.
Might explain why when I had him roll into it it made more power…?
After watching it again, listen to the load against the rear tire. The jeep revs faster the second time on the Dyno.
I’m sticking with the load not being set the same from one run to the other.
Interesting findings for sure.
Gonna try another tuner
Question. Considering that ALL Fiat umbrella cars with a 2.0 turbo from 2016-2023 are using the same FCA global medium engine
Could you do the same Tune for a 2019 2.0 Turbo Cherokee TrailHawk since the they exact same engine.
I have one and am seeing is there’s any way to give it a bump in power.
In theory, yes. I’ve already given up on the project though. Lack of support via tuners is a major reason. I live in an area with dragsters and hot rods. They didn’t seem too interested in messing with the 2.0.
Manufacturers put a ton of R&D engineering $ into efficiency. There isn’t a lot of unclaimed HP for aftermarket bolt ons anymore. Times have changed. And if you do modify newer stuff it will come with a trade-off; it will likely be nosier, less reliable, put more wear on parts, void your warranty, etc.
True, but I had to try. I did enjoy it more after. But I still went and got a V8
Couple questions, how many miles between installing the parts/tune and re-dynoing? Hopefully at least a few hundred miles :) I assume post tune was run on Premium fuel?
Good questions! Roughly about 600miles, and yes all dyno runs were done on 93 octane.
I played around with a piggyback on a turbo Volkswagen. Inconsistent and a waste of money. Once I got a real tune. Been amazing since.
I’ll do that with my next one.
Pulsar sucks for a tuner btw and you need to have a turbo back exhaust to get real power and get you a boost controller turn the boost up
Just saving people money
Enjoyed your video
Leave it alone🤣
I did, went and got a 392…I have issues…😅
@@therubiconian392 So I guess my Jeep gets to keep the name GUNNY
@@wendycity99 well, I’m the retired Gunny so… lol
I only added the afe cold air intake on my 22 2.0. I got a check engine light. Is there any advice you could give? Do i need the aftermarket turbo as well? Or to get tuned?
There’s a air valve that connects to the stock box. I cut mine out of the stock air box and hooked it into the aftermarket lines. That’s what is throwing the code. Happened on mine. I thought I mentioned it in the video. If not I’ll look.
@@therubiconian392 hey! Yeh i went over video again. I dont think i seen a mention of it. I did see the set up visually for a few seconds and the tube part does look diff than what i have. Could you maybe explain how you go that set up? Would really appreciate it!
@@truly.yours.mediaa can do, let me see if I can pull up the footage I made. I changed phones so I may have to find another 2.0 and make a video.
Just found the old footage and threw together a video for you. Hope it helps!
@@therubiconian392 youre the best man!! Cant tell you how much that helps!!
Is there a downpipe available?
Hadn’t found one yet
How do I increase the rev limiter on my 2019 2 .0 turbo JL breaks down at 5500
For that you would need to see an HPI tuner. The new CPU’s require tuning credits. See a reputable tuner about that. You may want to make sure the pulse width of the injectors and valve train are capable of handling higher RPM’s
They shot for torque more than hp so it may not like spinning faster.
Very cool. I just picked up a 2018 Rubicon JLU with the 2.0. How hard is it to change the spark plugs? Dealership says the intake manifold needs to be removed. $500-$600 they say. Just subscribed to the channel. Thanks
Definitely love the mishimoto charge pipe with the cold air, and the turbo smart blow off valve adds a little spice to the drive.
I get that this was a bolt on video but plug in “tuners” suck lol they don’t control enough inputs because there’s a lot of variables to make it safe. Last thing they want is to be tagged as a plug tuner that blows your jeep up 😂take it to a real tuner and have someone tune it for real, I bet you’ll get consistent 270-285hp numbers on 37s no problem. Maybe more. Just my two cents that no one asked for 💪🏼😂
Yeah, I was hoping for better results but I wanted to show everyone exactly what you said.
Thank you for the video!
What kind of highway mpg are you seeing on 37s?
With the 2.0 on the highway I got 20-23 on long trips. With the 392 I’m getting 16-18
@@therubiconian392 thanks. I want a diesel but may have to settle for a 2.0t I live rurally so most of not all my driving is 55-65ish 37s are a must tho
I have never expected my Rubicon 2.0 turbo to win any races or behave like a sports car. I would rather it be a solid and dependable driver as it is.
Eh, some of us aren’t meant to go slow through life. I came from sports cars and race cars. So, I wanted as much kick as I could get. I’ve since bought a 392 wrangler and absolutely love it.
Best of both worlds. But I get what you’re saying and I agree also. Thanks for watching! Subscribe if you want and let me know what you would like to see in a video.
That stock run was that 220 hp to the tire??
Best was 226 yes.
What do you think of that blowoff valve? Real world! Lol!
It was cute but not necessary
Cute. Aka for you took it off. 😉😉
@@jasonballenger2505 no, it was fun but I sold the Jeep with it.
So basically. Buy the 4xe have the best of both worlds with way more power!
That was their intent
Why didn’t you do an AFe downpipe?
I didn’t know about it…
@@therubiconian392 I just did, huge gains! Takes a day to adapt, drives slow at first then next boom. Big power gains you can feel.
Did you road test it? It seems like an awful lot of changes for not alot of improvement
Watch the whole video
Went with the JB4 tuner, borla atak exhaust, bov, and matching mishimoto CAI and down pipe. On 35s, I’m about 20-30 up on both numbers here.
I heard JB4 was the way to go
Where did you get the down pipe? I didn't see any on Mishimoto's website
@@xEvan12 www.mishimoto.com/jeep-wrangler-20l-performance-intercooler-pipe-2018.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwpeaYBhDXARIsAEzItbGCakRfvtyP1LKoLK5yarJXVZgKcCcNis0CzE2zvqbQFJh17FJ3F8QaAoxrEALw_wcB
Yes JB4 for me as well along with mishimoto intercooler pipe and cold air intake. With a flowmaster force II muffler. I have pushed over 25 lbs of boost with 35/12.5/20s getting 25 mpg
Спасибо за видео ) желание тюнить Двигатель и выхлоп отпало на прочь ))
You’re welcome.
What kind of gas mileage do you get runnin 37’s?
19.7 was my average around town.
I work at a jeep store and own a wrangler 4xe. On my 4xe anyways which has the turbo engine. In 2wd it limits power output to help prevent wheel spin. When I go into 4wd auto it creates max power. I wonder it this is what is happening here.
0 to 60 times are about 1 to 1.5 secs faster for me just going to 4wd auto.
@@Chriswi5683 kinda what I experienced. Maybe so…
Thank u brother now I leave stock xD
Is there anybody that does actual dyno tuning for the 2.0t jeep
Nope, it’s kinda sad…
@@therubiconian392 you would thing someone would develop something better I mean dodge got 340hp out of them for a concept vehicle
That blowoff valve kept giving me a check engine light. Got tired of resetting it every time I drove the damn thing so I removed it. No more check engine light!
The factory one or the TurboSmart one?
@@therubiconian392 the turbo smart one.
@@autoblog3922 hmm 🤔 interesting
I think Rubicon 2.0 Liter Turbo makes 270 horses
226hp 260lbft of torque
@@therubiconian392 Jeep Needs to Stop Lying it states 270 Hp on the 2022 ... great Video it would see One Part at a time, but I know that's a hassle but just to See the best Bang for the Buck ....Thanks
@@hushmoney2058 It’s $150/hour on the dyno. If I had more subscribers and such I could do things like that. But yes underwhelmed, the v6 makes even less.
@@therubiconian392 Make's Sense ...I will Subscribe ...
@@hushmoney2058 Thank You 🙏
Since HP tuners supports the 2.0 why don't you get an unlocked PCM and tune it properly instead of a piggyback tuner that doesn't work well
The video was supposed to demonstrate that.🙃
Enjoyed the video. If you want the best piggyback system you should reach for the JB4. Also, I assume you’re running 93 octane?
Yep, I always run 93. I will check it out! Thanks for the tip.
Well, FWIW I think real world numbers are way better than dyno numbers. Sound like you cut 0.8 seconds off the 0-60 time. 👍🏻
I love it when somebody actually watches the entire video and understands what I say at the end and how it correlates.
From searching through the internet, all ive found about CAI kits for these 2.0's is that they TAKE AWAY horsepower???? WTF????
That’s pretty crazy,
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Just a video of a certified jeep mechanic. He says leave the engine alone. You dont get what you think with add ons
Drivability did get better however. But yes, not what you hope for.
lol
Stop with the music that is 10 times louder than your voice.
I can't watch them....
Thanks you wanna be my sound guy and editor? Maybe it will be better
@@therubiconian392 Heck no!! I'm sorry that I stated this like a total A-hole!
What I was trying to say is we want to learn from you, because you know your stuff.
You don't need music for Subs. Especially the non-Copyrighted stuff.
Again, I'm sorry for acting like a troll.
As a peace offering, I'm your newest Sub.
Thank you for your content.
@@Tunaslayer1 well, that makes way more sense. I appreciate your candor and applaud your honesty. For sure I’ll try to do better. All my content is just shot and edited with my cellphone. If things really take off then I’ll have some professional do all the sound and stuff. As for the montages, I think it’s because I grew up in the 80-90’s when they were in every movie and tv show lol. I try to put something out for everyone. It’s a work in progress. Welcome aboard, Rubi-cronie !!!
@@therubiconian392 That is how It should e done! If you know your stuff, you DO NOT need to make it flashy!!!
@@Tunaslayer1 just having fun. Everyone pray we can scrape some money together for some new content. The 392 was outta my budget but I needed a 4 door and wasn’t about to pass up one.
Another one who has absolutely no idea what R.I.C.E means.
Why don’t you explain it to us all so we can learn?
The reason your dynos suck is because of the obese wheels and tires. Do dynos with stock wheels and tires. You dont want to tune your engine with massive weights for running gear
It was the difference in before and after the mods… I wasn’t worried about max dyno numbers.