Drum Mixing Tutorial!

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  • Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
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    INDEX:
    00:00 Intro
    00:32 The drumtracks
    02:28 What we can do with the multitracks
    02:59 Regular recording mistakes
    04:04 Multitrack rundown
    08:49 Kick treatment
    13:11 Snare treatment
    19:06 Overheads treatment
    22:48 Room Treatment
    23:54 Disclosure
    26:06 Xpressoring
    28:36 Toms
    33:15 TAPE
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  • @zargos24
    @zargos24 5 місяців тому +1

    „U only have to gate‘ur drums if there are problems with it…“
    New awareness unlocked.
    Thank you so much for this subclause. Really! I really do appreciate your content and I will support. Keep on, even though there are toxic customers or less vids in stock. Great work, I am learning so much.

  • @florisbackx1744
    @florisbackx1744 7 місяців тому +2

    These mixing vids are so much fun to watch, especially drums they are the most satisfying instrument to mix!

  • @chrisglen9441
    @chrisglen9441 7 місяців тому

    This was excellent. Great to watch/hear you dial in settings and talk about workflow. Awesome.

  • @drnabs872
    @drnabs872 7 місяців тому +1

    Im gonna take notes for this one THANK YOU!!!

  • @Studio22mix
    @Studio22mix 7 місяців тому +2

    Joseph is an amazing producer, saw him on an other video and he’s a very inspiring guy 👌🏼

  • @chadmichael_
    @chadmichael_ 7 місяців тому

    I love your content. I have learned so much from your videos over the years and have had a lot of fun in the process. Thank you!

  • @pywidem5823
    @pywidem5823 7 місяців тому +10

    I really like the recent content of your‘s. :) And of what my perspective is: I really want to see in depth videos on recording/mixing/mastering, and sadly there aren’t really as many informative videos out there.
    For example: The long video interview about oversampling was really cool, I learned so much. Whereas many other UA-cam videos (in general) talk about topics more in a less educational way and barely scratch the surface ever. I understand that they want to appeal to an audience who is just starting out but I get the feeling almost every channel does that.
    So yeah, Tldr: Cool stuff, get nerdy! I would literally sit here and watch a 4 hour video about different attack curves for snare compression or something. I like learning in depth!

  • @Harryk7988
    @Harryk7988 7 місяців тому +1

    Please please please keep doing these kinds of videos. I think seeing the actual workflow of a professional would improve the music more than any plugin ever will

    • @stevedoesnt
      @stevedoesnt 7 місяців тому

      Yes. These types of workflow videos are EXACTLY what I’m constantly scouring the internet for. I’m a tape/console/hybrid mixer, and it’s such a different process from straight in the box, and finding others that work this way is getting harder and harder.

  • @pranphorun9647
    @pranphorun9647 7 місяців тому

    Very thankful for your content that very useful for beginner like me . thank you so much.

  • @ErwinStoepman
    @ErwinStoepman 7 місяців тому +2

    the modules are not fastened in the console to allow for some wiggle room

  • @HippyDruid77
    @HippyDruid77 7 місяців тому

    Great tutorial mate, thanks for sharing! 🤘

  • @jonasvontrott7644
    @jonasvontrott7644 7 місяців тому

    my favorite video so far, this was awesome with tape of course 😂 thank u for this one ❤

  • @cryptout
    @cryptout 7 місяців тому

    Nice video, I learned some new tricks!

  • @ivanfaigenbom5300
    @ivanfaigenbom5300 7 місяців тому

    Great video. Valuable info as well. Thx

  • @b0d0p33t3rs
    @b0d0p33t3rs 7 місяців тому +1

    Really loved how you kept the tightness of the sound, not wanting to overcook things but felt the spirit of what you were working with. That said, there are (like you mentioned) so many interesting avenues to dive into, some parallel distortion, modulation FX and so, would be interesting from a more 'artistic' point of view on how you approach this.

  • @degani.guilherme
    @degani.guilherme 7 місяців тому +1

    great content, man! as always!
    a video on bus compression on the whole kit would be awesome!
    cheers from Brazil!

  • @josemorbass
    @josemorbass 7 місяців тому

    Maravilloso e inspirador,, muchas gracias!

  • @Sagerydian
    @Sagerydian 7 місяців тому

    So this is how you mix the dröms! Nice video, thanks! 🖤

  • @yannikmarcus9788
    @yannikmarcus9788 7 місяців тому

    You make wonderful content! Thank you for makng me listen.

  • @RufusJacson
    @RufusJacson 7 місяців тому

    36:20 - I had fun watching it, it was really useful! More please. 👍

  • @Adam_Mokanszki
    @Adam_Mokanszki 7 місяців тому

    Thank you!

  • @TopTierAudio
    @TopTierAudio 7 місяців тому

    Thanks!

  • @iengineer_247
    @iengineer_247 7 місяців тому

    I run across your stuff time to time keep helping man forget the comments that are negative!!!!

  • @kilkaserco
    @kilkaserco 7 місяців тому +1

    Great vid. The thing about drums is the recording process. I tried to use multitracks I got online to learn; thinking that was the key to great sounding drums. Took me a while to realise that's (almost) the easy bit. The real work is the drum tuning, the sound of the room, phase, mic placement and the drummer. And working with friends bands who are doing this for love and not money, multitracks can't prepare you for mixing less that brilliantly sounding drums in a weird room. 😂

  • @WaBoo78
    @WaBoo78 7 місяців тому

    Moses is the Einstein of Drum Recording and Mixing!!!! The Wurst Mic, the Snareo and Droom are Crazy 🤩🤩🤯

  • @xtcy60
    @xtcy60 7 місяців тому

    Love more mixing video’s. Do your thing. I love it.

  • @real.demesure
    @real.demesure 7 місяців тому +12

    Your community is getting older with you, and to say the less : Your videos are very entertaining. Keep this kind of videos up if you wanna see white headed fans !

    • @PeterPan-lu7cw
      @PeterPan-lu7cw 7 місяців тому

      Im watching him since 10k subscribers or so

  • @mmx2323
    @mmx2323 7 місяців тому +5

    you are inspiring me and you're making good content, I can tell you that. I think it's very responsible in regards of your community to justify certain things but keep in mind we're talking about YOUR channel, and only YOU will decide what to do with it. people will never listen anyway. don't ever forget it

  • @HR2635
    @HR2635 5 місяців тому

    You earned a subscriber purely for the notion about: drummers need to "mix" themselves in the studio"... Im a drummer/studio tech and this is my mantra that I TRY to teach drummers I meet. Its the difference between a good drummer and a GREAT studio drummer.. its that simple.
    nb: the actual snares.. the snare wires are a GOOD thing in the mix.. its often what will make it natural with some snare buzz

  • @truzd
    @truzd 7 місяців тому

    Hope to learn something now :D

  • @merchannel7762
    @merchannel7762 7 місяців тому

    Yeahhh more mixing videos please

  • @PurpleMusicProductions
    @PurpleMusicProductions 6 місяців тому

    Wow this was fantastic! I appreciated watching your process and hope you make more of these. I could tell you were having fun as it is interesting to see the new direction of the channel. You appear to be happier displaying your craft on UA-cam which in itself can be a soul suck. Oddly I preferred the drums without the tape machine although I could see that working for more of a vintage vibe song. From my observation the drums were so well recorded to begin with and probably hit a tape machine at some point in the process so more is not needed possibly.

  • @andreifilip
    @andreifilip 7 місяців тому

    Thanks a lot for this video!!!
    I really do like both versions ( tape and without tape ), but I guess in the end it all comes down how these drums will sound in a song.
    If it were to be just a "drum solo" song, I do like the tape version ( more gritty character and different "vibe" )

  • @tonyhudspeth3861
    @tonyhudspeth3861 7 місяців тому

    great ! as usual...

  • @f3rny_66
    @f3rny_66 7 місяців тому +1

    you need one of those ptz cameras with ultra zoom in the roof for this kind of videos xD, a hands free eagle's eye of the studio

  • @mr-iz8cx
    @mr-iz8cx 7 місяців тому +3

    Incredible detail. I would love to get your perspective with electronic drums. Just a standard such as 808 or 909. Nothing fancy, but you using knowledge and fancy equipment. That would be really interesting to me ✌️ ..just samples, not the drum machines 😊

  • @TheGurner1
    @TheGurner1 7 місяців тому

    Nice!

  • @peterheinen6110
    @peterheinen6110 7 місяців тому

    Grettings from a live yet e-kit drummer. Elysia also has a plugin called elysia phil's cascade. It is awesome, but yes, don't compress to much.❤❤

  • @weedywet
    @weedywet 7 місяців тому +1

    Back when everyone just recorded drums with a bass drum mic and a single overhead, in order to be a successful recording drummer one HAD to have a good internal kit balance that translated well into that single mic. That unfortunately these days is rare. the really great drummers still sound balanced in the room, and on one mic.

  • @genejas
    @genejas 7 місяців тому +1

    i'd love a video on how to save shittily recorded toms

  • @Rhuggins
    @Rhuggins 7 місяців тому

    Fabulous video thank you so much.
    Damn that analog EQ sounds amazing. I just bought a Thermionic Culture Phoenix (vari mu) which just arrived (the dictator wasnt jiving with me) - as well as an IGS Audio IQ Mastering EQ. Love your vintage EQ modules - wish there were some EQs I could buy like those that wouldn't absolutely kill the bank. Thinking about DIY 500 serries...10-20 channels of analog EQ is $$$. Any suggestions?

  • @mixphantom0101
    @mixphantom0101 7 місяців тому

    I'd love to hear a comparison of the clean version, tape version and a version through Magnetismus 2! 😎

  • @dja.d
    @dja.d 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video and content as always - I watch this as a Drum & Bass producer but I make my own drums using Xfer Serum including kick, snare, hi-hats etc. and also addictive drums. It would be interesting how you go about doing dance/electronic style drums and comparing to rock which is more heavily compressed, also how you also go about EQ/compressing these genres, maybe a few video ideas that can be done to achieve this?
    Is tape always recommended also on a final mix and master or is that optional? I have the UAD and have the option of using the Studer A800 or Ampex ATR-102 but I don't find myself using them recently.
    Other thoughts on videos could be bass/synth compression and different techniques to keep them from sounding static in a mix?

    • @skwig5670
      @skwig5670 7 місяців тому

      you're basically looking for production advice, check out Baphometrix tutorials

  • @dykodesigns
    @dykodesigns 7 місяців тому

    Very interesting and informative. Even though I only use electronic drum sounds (TR-6S drum machine and samples from accoustic kits) this tutorial is quite usefull. I have an old (very cheap and nasty from the 90's) "Mark-V" accoustic drum kit but not the right room to record it. The kit sounds sqeaky too. I Have only one condensor microphone and a 2-channel interface to record. What's your take on recording / mixing drums recorded from a sound module or a VST drum instrument? (any pros and cons / preferences in relation to recording from a real kit). I quite like the idea of exploring an electronic kit in combination with a physical modelling VST to complement programmed drums from a drum computer. Synths are straight-foreward to record but an accoustic kit looks tricky to get right.

  • @weedywet
    @weedywet 7 місяців тому

    How often do you bias and align your tape machine? and to what flux level?

  • @mcmentalmusicmakers3219
    @mcmentalmusicmakers3219 7 місяців тому

    tap the unit with screw driver handle should tell if cold soldier break I miss my SpX 90 and 50

  • @mcmentalmusicmakers3219
    @mcmentalmusicmakers3219 7 місяців тому

    do you use over head over shoulder for the stereo pair?
    If not why? Do you treat them completely different even with same spacing same focal? In my small room I have to dead everything towels on the hardware and a portable 3 side and ceiling vocal booth on backside of drummer open to brick where the room mics at 12' live Right overhead is a Right over shoulder. Hi Hat full of door keys and the drummer moves tape folded on cymbals on different days pro drummer magic stuff. Control room is drum room. I reintroduce reverb after the fact Do you have a better way in a 12 *15 room with 8' ceiling. Drum on 14 riser 3 sheets plywood under drum sitting 12 hockey pucks I do have a Avaton CK-40 stereo mic and a Sony stereo but usually use Rode pencil Thanks since you asked

  • @SamSanai
    @SamSanai 7 місяців тому

    I use soft clipping on the drum bus

  • @kobyisraelite
    @kobyisraelite 7 місяців тому

    You're a f***ing genius. I want you to mix my next album (if I can afford you :) )

  • @codgerfiasco
    @codgerfiasco 7 місяців тому

    \i'm guessing the files come time alligned but I was wondering... Once all the racks and plugins get applied do they become out of whack time/phase wise? And even though it is not its intended use would the auto allign plug applied after all the process be worth trying? Or would it sound like poo?

  • @joefarwick3056
    @joefarwick3056 7 місяців тому

    white sea i know this is a special request but could you maybe do a video on how to make software instruments realistic? for example how to do dynamics of strings or brass in a realistic way.

  • @syjwg
    @syjwg 7 місяців тому

    The snare spill in the bass drum micks was a lot, but it can be mixed away. But why don't you like the SM57 on the snare?

  • @johnisrael5183
    @johnisrael5183 7 місяців тому

    I use Acustica Audio Cola 2 71' EQ with the Nebula API 525 FET Comp...then run the Drum bus through my Analog Gear....thats how I mix down my drum buses....

  • @johnisrael5183
    @johnisrael5183 7 місяців тому

    There is a Plugin...if you cant afford or dont have a SSL B dynamics....comp......you can use the Alex B API FET 525 Nebula Plugin.....beats even alot of hardware units on Drums

  • @danielectics9435
    @danielectics9435 7 місяців тому

    This drum track reminds me of Janet Jackson “Control”.

  • @sinenkaari5477
    @sinenkaari5477 7 місяців тому

    Do you EQ in the bus?

  • @MichaelStelz
    @MichaelStelz 7 місяців тому +2

    20:25 You don't use screws on your plugins either 🙄

  • @mazy-beats
    @mazy-beats 7 місяців тому +13

    the sample pack costs only 138€

  • @anteshell
    @anteshell 7 місяців тому +1

    19:42 I'm left handed AF but the little I know how to play drums, I play "right handed". It's not like there are left handed pianos either. While I'm sure there are people freak enough to play left handed drums or even keys, I've never seen such blasphemy. I mean, I look weird at those people using a PC mouse with a left hand.
    That being said, while I use scissors with my left hand, I simply cannot work with left handed scissors. They are so weird to hold in hand. All that smoothness and compliant ergonomy does no change the fact that if you're using scissors with correct hand, the blades always goes the wrong way around each others to make it harder to push them together to keep the cut accurate and precise.
    Let's see how controversial my take on scissors is. ;D

    • @RoryRonde
      @RoryRonde 7 місяців тому

      i get where you are coming from as a left handed person. in my case it resulted in a kind of ambidextrous of way of playing guitar right handed, laying drums in parallel (so drums setup traditionally but snare and hihat are played opposite from a right handed drummer, but lower body just regularly) and cutting with a scissor righthandedly. A lefthanded scissor was probably designed by a left handed person 🤣

  • @djscottfrenzy
    @djscottfrenzy 7 місяців тому

    I would love how to master a dj mix ! That's been mixed in ableton

    • @mirkomarkovic3438
      @mirkomarkovic3438 2 місяці тому

      I would guess that there's not much left you can do 'cause it's already been slammed into oblivion

  • @mcmentalmusicmakers3219
    @mcmentalmusicmakers3219 7 місяців тому

    check out Silence by black salt

  • @C_F_M
    @C_F_M 6 місяців тому

    I like it better without the tape really, but I think it's a good exercise in making those critical decisions as to whether or not something you think "Yeah this will be awesome" is actually adding anything

  • @valleywoodstudio7345
    @valleywoodstudio7345 7 місяців тому

    yes - common complaint is "too much metalwork!"

  • @mcmentalmusicmakers3219
    @mcmentalmusicmakers3219 7 місяців тому

    spx 50 had it 2

  • @francobuzzetti9424
    @francobuzzetti9424 7 місяців тому

    newbie producer here: do this recording sucks or I'm way too used to PRINSTINE drum samples? having heard you say that's a well recorded drumset makes me believe we are WAY too spoiled with samples

    • @mirkomarkovic3438
      @mirkomarkovic3438 2 місяці тому

      This is a good drum recording

    • @francobuzzetti9424
      @francobuzzetti9424 2 місяці тому

      @@mirkomarkovic3438 then yeah, we're way too spoiled with drum samples sounding perfect

  • @MaartenFranken
    @MaartenFranken 7 місяців тому

    Houtlijm sounds a lot better already ;)

  • @PontilMarx
    @PontilMarx 7 місяців тому

    'drums sound bad in a small room'. 'overheads should capture the whole kit' 😵‍💫

  • @beehype46and2
    @beehype46and2 7 місяців тому

    Comment for da algorithm
    Streak count: 212

  • @mofateam1
    @mofateam1 7 місяців тому

    The price of these loops is crazy - not interested.
    I recommend Drumdrops, they have multitracks too, stylewise a very large palette to choose from....and much more reasonably priced.

  • @1loveMusic2003
    @1loveMusic2003 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video. Keep ignoring the BS comments. It's probably better for you.

  • @anonymousbrowser4448
    @anonymousbrowser4448 7 місяців тому +2

    50 breaks for 139€? 😂😂

  • @endoflevelboss
    @endoflevelboss 7 місяців тому

    "Whenever I need to do a live gig, whenever I need to do front of house" which I don't do any more.
    Yeah I have a favourite reverb I use when I'm doing a pretend gig too 🙄

    • @Whiteseastudio
      @Whiteseastudio  7 місяців тому

      I should have said, whenever I did FOH 😜

  • @duboracle
    @duboracle 7 місяців тому

    I can not mix in this way, it must be with the rest of the music where it goes with. It could sound out of tune, or accents could be made in some total other way, or it could sound muffled, or what ever. Sometimes a reverb never will work on a hi-hatt, or it just will to fill the spectrum. What-ever ! But never on his own as you are doing here.

  • @joinslayer
    @joinslayer 7 місяців тому

    Acoustic drums, of course :(

    • @INeedsMoneys
      @INeedsMoneys 7 місяців тому +2

      Whats wrong with acoustic drums?

    • @joinslayer
      @joinslayer 7 місяців тому

      There's a million tutorials about mixing them already

    • @INeedsMoneys
      @INeedsMoneys 7 місяців тому +2

      @@joinslayer so what kind of drums would you like to learn how to mix then? Electronic drums for example are generally far easier to mix because of their digital nature. No need for a tutorial on those

  • @nepntzerZer
    @nepntzerZer 7 місяців тому

    139 euro LOL

  • @phadrus
    @phadrus 7 місяців тому

    So many friggin commercials!

  • @BlackenedNL
    @BlackenedNL 7 місяців тому

    Isn't it Elysia? El-eeee-sia, not El-uuuu-sia

  • @WeSuckAsHumans
    @WeSuckAsHumans 7 місяців тому

    I’ll send you my drum tracks to play with.