Yeah I don’t understand why it’s like that, I think they should just take the hit box off of most characters insta spark with maybe a few exceptions but only for lore/powerscale reasons
As an S rank gohan user Ultimate is definitely the best for me. SSJ2 teen gohan is close but it feels like he takes so much damage every time I use him l
Ok, I don't mean to sound like an elitist or anything, but I genuinely think you have a skill issue with Adult Gohan. Both his base and ssj have full power charge which instantly make him a threat. Explosive madan is Gohan's best moves since it's easy to combo with and exceptionally harder to dodge with how spread out the attack is just like in the last game (to a lesser degree), Sure, all energy volley's are trash but ssj gohan has an unblockable beam as well in his ultimate. Ssj2 is 100% one of the best Gohan's with his combo tree, good damage and he also still has a 2 bar explosive madan. I think you missed the margin on Adult Gohan by a mile, mainly cause of lack of skill from what i'm seeing. Also wild sense is Goated you are bugging.
@@opfreak If you don't have the patience to read, then don't, how about you actually engage with a conversation you bothered to comment on then saying you're illiterate.
@@roscoeorginal That’s the problem. They’re DLC and not already in the game. This has been a problem in modern gaming for a while. Either they hold back content so they can force everyone to pay more or they’re lazy and rely on DLC to fix problems… and still forcing everyone to pay more.
Has to be SS2 Adult Gohan. He may not be the menace that he is in BT3, but he's still the best of the Gohans and definitely one of the best characters in the game imo
I think it’s between him and Ultimate Gohan. Both have an instaspark but imo what makes SSJ adult better is his ultimate is a blast so it’s way, way easier to combo into and it’s fast asf. UG is way faster and I prefer his melee more but I think Adult SS2 has the better kit abilities wise.
@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449i thought rush attacks are easier and faster to combo into it. Only exception i can see is that ssj gohan ult is unblockable beam
No joke, he straight up might be. Insta-sparking mode, explosive wave, 7 DP cost so good damage, 2 ki bar Masenko which has more range than you might think, hits hard and goes through Gogeta Blue's "It's futile 🦅🦅" and you can use his rolling hammer 2 hits earlier than Cell Games Gohan which has helped me quite a bit during fights
Globku i really like this for a series but i would recommend that before going to a real match you show first all the movesets the character can do because sometimes in an actual match you dont get to use all of them
This was my initial idea for the video. It made the whole thing way too long imo. But maybe I'll create a nice visual to overlay at the start of a match with the moveset
FYI, for most characters, your first transformation is what gives the bulk of your stats. Base>first form is always a bigger jump than first form>second+
Also, 7dp is not the threshold, ss3 Goku is the threshold, meaning there are no versions of trunks that can break super armor in one hit. But both ss2 Gohans and ultimate can
As a Z rank, hands down it’s objectively Base Adult Gohan: Wild Sense + Full Power charge (not instant sparking) with a special Masengo attack that only cost 2 ki bars and can easily be combined into a leg sweep combo.
@@Maixxe wild sense is significantly better than explosive wave. It can dodge ultimates, special attacks etc while dealing counter damage. SS2 Teen Gohans ultimate is one of the easier ones to vanish.
I wouldn’t say objectively the best but best for the playstyle your speaking of. other players prefer more melee damage which SSJ2 have and ult gohan and some are ultimate/ sparking (spammers) which would be the best would be teen ssj2 or any gohan with instant sparking but imo the best is ssj2 he does the most regular dmg with his kit
@@_Raymond because super counter exists. On a high skill level, it is the best. You are not going to get combos very much at that skill level. Wild sense with masenko breaks their flow and keeps them uncomfortable while you remain unreadable.
I’m with Globku on this one sure it can be useful but it’s situational and a lot of the time when you’re trying to do something it gets overwritten by the wild sense
Might just be me, but Wild sense has been stupid useful to me. People at A rank (not that it matters) only a few know what to do, and most even then dont always tech it properly and I get a free easy follow up, into tons of damage
THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD REALLY BE IN GENERAL TERMS. TEEN SSJ2 > GOHAN SSJ2 > FUTURE SSJ > ULTIMATE GOHAN > TEEN SSJ > GOHAN SSJ > GOHAN > FUTURE > TEEN > KID > GRAN SAYAMAN
I think the volley supers look really cool, I just wish they wasn’t so ass. Maybe if the blast had a little bit of a stun then you couldn’t get hit by the first one and just block the rest.
@@kumarayush9950 When you charged up, there is electric effects, and in his rush move at the beginning. But yeah it would be definitely better having the electric effects even in neutral
Wild Sense is NOT one of the worst skills, but rather the opposite. It gets a bit worse against high rank players because they can vanish it more often, but again, it’s one of the best skills. I can’t tell you how many times it saved me in games. Ultimate Gohan, Adult Gohan SSJ and Teen Gohan SSJ2 are the best versions for sure.
I have good ideas: THE TRIO OF LOVE! Those are three fan favorite characters we need to know their ranks! GIANTS! They don't play the same and I am sure you can show their nuance. MINIONS! There are people with limited time to play, so letting them have a team made of the same character can help, freeza soldier, Saibaman and Cell Jr who is the best? As a self-proclaimed pro, I don't see you having any problem pulling these off.
I dont agree with the placement of adult gohan, they should be a tier above, the short range masenko its 2 bars and really easy to set up and while ssj has that volley garbage his ultimate its unblockable. Cool concept for a series of videos tho.
13:47 if that was Z broly it could been a cannon fight of “Broly second coming “ . Also that man’s let the match be determined by clash , what a chad 😊.
Though freeza is the one i want to see the most, i think it would make sense to do trunks next, or maybe piccolo with nail included and maybe slug as well
Kid Gohan and SSJ2 Teen Gohan both get buffs just for being in sparking mode! (Seperate from the Unforgivable! Buff), they're the only characters out of those I've tested so far that have this
*shoots a kamehame-ha, and it hits, dealing good damage. *says "you shouldnt spend ki like that" (why?) *has won every match so far because of afterimage-strike and instant-sparking wow...
Love adult Gohan. And the fact I can choose either the super saiyan route with ssj and ssj2 which have both fire lines when powering up in the midst of battle or great saiyaman when transforming his line “as long as there is evil” when doing justice rush is peak for me especially when going against a fusion character and putting belt 2 ass and then having an instant spark for ssj2 and also full power charge for base and ssj is peak for me💯
although this was weeks ago, i feel as if you had played future gohan against that gogeta where you were great saiyaman, it would’ve been way more notable
Seereax used to do these sort of videos on XV2. It was called the legacy videos? i think? he basically would pick a character like... goku and get win online with each variant of the character. It was really cool. Would love if you did the same in SZ
In terms of cost>power, Teen Gohan/Adult Gohan are the way to go (heck even Great Saiyaman feels pretty good) Kid Gohan probably has potential, haven't played him enough to properly comment swag or fun factor personally is Ultimate Gohan even if he's 7 DP haha Future Gohan feels solid but costing more and having 2 Blast Beams (and no Rush Blast) drops him a few points for me
Future Gohan.
It's not about the game play,
It's about sending a message.
It doesn't matter, we can't bring them back...
You 💯 get it bro 🫡🔥
@mapotoffu7371 Yes we can. Through our own what if stories
this is not for the gameplay
THIS IS FOR GOHAN!
W, whats your team? future gohan, 16 and who else
Nah, make a series. I need this for Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Zoro.
HUH
@@titan5064 He got lost and ended up on the roster.
WHEN BROLY⁉️
@TrainerDomo "Where tf am I even? Oh, hey, Frieza."
we do def need this
ssj adult gohan has bros kamehameha which is unblockable😬
Ssj2 teen Gohan father son also unblockable
Bardocks instant sparking mode is also a shockwave which is crazy busted
Best move in the game by far.
Yeah… but it cost 4 blast stocks
Yeah but then it makes you not wanna use saiyan spirit
Yeah I don’t understand why it’s like that, I think they should just take the hit box off of most characters insta spark with maybe a few exceptions but only for lore/powerscale reasons
@@Blueflame22455 Because he's awesome
As an S rank gohan user Ultimate is definitely the best for me. SSJ2 teen gohan is close but it feels like he takes so much damage every time I use him l
The nice thing about the close range beam moves is they're really wide so people cant side step them or vanish easy.
Ok, I don't mean to sound like an elitist or anything, but I genuinely think you have a skill issue with Adult Gohan. Both his base and ssj have full power charge which instantly make him a threat. Explosive madan is Gohan's best moves since it's easy to combo with and exceptionally harder to dodge with how spread out the attack is just like in the last game (to a lesser degree), Sure, all energy volley's are trash but ssj gohan has an unblockable beam as well in his ultimate. Ssj2 is 100% one of the best Gohan's with his combo tree, good damage and he also still has a 2 bar explosive madan. I think you missed the margin on Adult Gohan by a mile, mainly cause of lack of skill from what i'm seeing. Also wild sense is Goated you are bugging.
Yall gotta learn how to summarize these essays
Holy glaze 😂😂😂😂😂
At this point just suck it 😂😂😂
@@opfreak If you don't have the patience to read, then don't, how about you actually engage with a conversation you bothered to comment on then saying you're illiterate.
@@LilBro-m4s I'm saying a character is underrated and that's glaze? I hope you get on Globku's dick about Teen Gohan.
Beast is definitely gonna be the best when he releases
The fact that super hero characters aren’t in the game already is a scam
@@jesuspernia8031I think they are saving too much for DLC, all the missing costumes, missing stages like the Ice continent stage from DBS Broly Movie
@@jesuspernia8031 we’re getting Gamma One and Two as DLC so I’d imagine Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo and Cell Max aren’t far away.
@@roscoeorginal
That’s the problem. They’re DLC and not already in the game. This has been a problem in modern gaming for a while. Either they hold back content so they can force everyone to pay more or they’re lazy and rely on DLC to fix problems… and still forcing everyone to pay more.
The fact every beam in the energy barrage @ 18:01 missed is pure comedy
Has to be SS2 Adult Gohan. He may not be the menace that he is in BT3, but he's still the best of the Gohans and definitely one of the best characters in the game imo
I think it’s between him and Ultimate Gohan. Both have an instaspark but imo what makes SSJ adult better is his ultimate is a blast so it’s way, way easier to combo into and it’s fast asf. UG is way faster and I prefer his melee more but I think Adult SS2 has the better kit abilities wise.
@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449i thought rush attacks are easier and faster to combo into it. Only exception i can see is that ssj gohan ult is unblockable beam
@@lonewolfxdash4738 Personally I struggle to combo into rush ults lol I whiff them a ton
@ i think thats a game issue ngl lol. So many characters whiff them
Teen Gohan is better than adult Gohan in my opinion but they're all good
31:38 why did i think globku would say: "First of all he only have one arm..."
Ssj2 adult gohan, only right answer
“Let’s go beyond🗿🗿🗿”
@@NickDaShootah “no way you’re gonna stop me now!” 🗣️🗣️🗣️
No joke, he straight up might be. Insta-sparking mode, explosive wave, 7 DP cost so good damage, 2 ki bar Masenko which has more range than you might think, hits hard and goes through Gogeta Blue's "It's futile 🦅🦅" and you can use his rolling hammer 2 hits earlier than Cell Games Gohan which has helped me quite a bit during fights
hell yeah
WHEN BROLY⁉️
At 18 mins where energy volley missed everything was bloody hilarious hahahaha
Burdock has a 4 point skill that is an explosive wave that also send you into Sparking.
Sends*
Globku i really like this for a series but i would recommend that before going to a real match you show first all the movesets the character can do because sometimes in an actual match you dont get to use all of them
This was my initial idea for the video. It made the whole thing way too long imo. But maybe I'll create a nice visual to overlay at the start of a match with the moveset
FYI, for most characters, your first transformation is what gives the bulk of your stats. Base>first form is always a bigger jump than first form>second+
Globku: Spams/says"That's not gonna work!" A lot
Bardock : This will change everything! and he dies LMAOOOO that was funny man
Also, 7dp is not the threshold, ss3 Goku is the threshold, meaning there are no versions of trunks that can break super armor in one hit. But both ss2 Gohans and ultimate can
As a Z rank, hands down it’s objectively Base Adult Gohan: Wild Sense + Full Power charge (not instant sparking) with a special Masengo attack that only cost 2 ki bars and can easily be combined into a leg sweep combo.
True but ssj adult gohan has an unblock-able ult and explosive wave which is good for getting hit behind
@@Maixxe wild sense is significantly better than explosive wave. It can dodge ultimates, special attacks etc while dealing counter damage. SS2 Teen Gohans ultimate is one of the easier ones to vanish.
I wouldn’t say objectively the best but best for the playstyle your speaking of. other players prefer more melee damage which SSJ2 have and ult gohan and some are ultimate/ sparking (spammers) which would be the best would be teen ssj2 or any gohan with instant sparking but imo the best is ssj2 he does the most regular dmg with his kit
@@_Raymond because super counter exists. On a high skill level, it is the best. You are not going to get combos very much at that skill level. Wild sense with masenko breaks their flow and keeps them uncomfortable while you remain unreadable.
@ oh wow I didn’t know that. I’m at B3 trying to make my way to A and possibly to Z one day
Wild sense is amazing, what??? It does good damage, and can catch aggressive opponents off guard/kick them away to do an ult if in sparking.
I’m with Globku on this one sure it can be useful but it’s situational and a lot of the time when you’re trying to do something it gets overwritten by the wild sense
This is the most passive aggressive comment ive seen today
Wild sense, after image, after image strike, instant transmission are all pretty much good to have
@@ShadyDealer-d4nyou have no idea what passive aggressive means
@@ShadyDealer-d4nhuh???😂
I can't wait till we get the actual adult Gohan in the game
You mean Beast Gohan? Just curious.
@@jaydenhurst8181 Yep, the one who's not in high school
@@King26J True I keep forgetting "Adult Gohan" is still in HS. Yeah, hopefully we get the real Adult Gohan
Adult can be in high-school
Might just be me, but Wild sense has been stupid useful to me. People at A rank (not that it matters) only a few know what to do, and most even then dont always tech it properly and I get a free easy follow up, into tons of damage
Ultimate Gohan starts with an extra bar of ki, which from what you said, it makes the character a ton better
Your wild sense bias is showing xD
I also like kid Gohan. Feels like he so badass and good playing him. MASENGO
Goten being above several Gohans is hilarious
Super saiyan adult gohan has an unblockable ultimate for anybody that doesn’t wanna use teen gohan🗿🗿🗿
we all know from tenkaichi 3, huge special cutscenes beams usually are unblockable
@@valentds I wouldn’t exactly say everyone knows lol more people are playing this than Tenkaichi ever had. Also Globku doesn’t seem to know
@@valentds not all of us played that 17 year old game tbf
@@valentds not true
Full Ki charge with an unblockable is rare anyone else?
THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD REALLY BE IN GENERAL TERMS.
TEEN SSJ2 > GOHAN SSJ2 > FUTURE SSJ > ULTIMATE GOHAN > TEEN SSJ > GOHAN SSJ > GOHAN > FUTURE > TEEN > KID > GRAN SAYAMAN
Make this a series with every other character
1:45. Bardock's "Saiyan Spirit" is a combination of an explosive wave and instant sparking. Just wanna let you know.
Sayan Spirit is a different skill, the one that does that is Shockwave of Rebellion
Wrong skill, why’d 30 ppl like this comment 😂
1:50 Bardock has a 4 bar explosive wave that goes Sparking
i know this isnt fighting game related but gohan reminded me you are a new father so hows it going i hope its well
Globku whenever gogeta blocked explosive wave "he's learning as he fights!"
Either Ultimate Gohan or Future Gohan
I thought this was a Dragon Ball Legends video for a sec
I think the volley supers look really cool, I just wish they wasn’t so ass. Maybe if the blast had a little bit of a stun then you couldn’t get hit by the first one and just block the rest.
Globku you are not getting away with this, we need Goku and Vegeta next.
Definitely make it a series. I'd tackle all the Trunks next. Already got 2 half saiyans. Might aswell do the 3rd.
One thing that they could did to Ultimate Gohan, was giving a white layout even out of sparking mode, to add a bit of flair to his ki
They need to add the electric effects just like he has in DBS SH
@@kumarayush9950 When you charged up, there is electric effects, and in his rush move at the beginning. But yeah it would be definitely better having the electric effects even in neutral
The problem of Future Gohan, is that he doesn't have special rush, why givin him 2 blast, same thing with Trunks 😭
The broly super counter after his beam at 13:31 was insane
Both Gotens are S tier, those were just your skill issues Globku😂
5:24 i really thought you gonna say "i need an adult"😂😂😂
Wild Sense is NOT one of the worst skills, but rather the opposite. It gets a bit worse against high rank players because they can vanish it more often, but again, it’s one of the best skills. I can’t tell you how many times it saved me in games. Ultimate Gohan, Adult Gohan SSJ and Teen Gohan SSJ2 are the best versions for sure.
Oh hey, Ginyu switches voices with the enemy when they body swap, just like in the show. That's neat.
32:04 hopefully this changes with a Teen Goten from SSH or GT Goten :D
Future Gohan. Yes I'm biased. Still the GOAT tho
I have good ideas:
THE TRIO OF LOVE!
Those are three fan favorite characters we need to know their ranks!
GIANTS!
They don't play the same and I am sure you can show their nuance.
MINIONS!
There are people with limited time to play, so letting them have a team made of the same character can help, freeza soldier, Saibaman and Cell Jr who is the best?
As a self-proclaimed pro, I don't see you having any problem pulling these off.
Ssj1 adult Gohan ultimate is also unblockable, I think
I disagree with adult Gohan, he has every tool you need for only 4 DP
Ultimate Gohan was misplaced
I dont agree with the placement of adult gohan, they should be a tier above, the short range masenko its 2 bars and really easy to set up and while ssj has that volley garbage his ultimate its unblockable.
Cool concept for a series of videos tho.
I think you should do Piccolo and Nail next but honestly anyone is fine, this video idea is awesome!
Can you rank Vegetas next!
Gohans SSJ1 form should’ve been higher his ultimate is unblockable 👀
You should see who's the best android
13:47 if that was Z broly it could been a cannon fight of “Broly second coming “ . Also that man’s let the match be determined by clash , what a chad 😊.
You probably already figured this out but if you use a blast that doesnt empty the sparking gauge, you can stay in it for a little longer.
"you dont learn.. HE BLOCKED"
29:06 Krillin out here with the Ultra Instinct
Kid Gohan criminally underrated, especially in DP battles, he only costs 3 DP!?!?!
Ppl sleep on Kid Gohan. He has afterimage strike
His ultimate is crazy too.
need a series of this 100% what a video from the editing to the explanations very amazing video you should do trunks next
Chars to pick: Fusions
Thats easy. Also a advice, of you handle a Theme like "Saijans", maybe just pick the top 2/3 out of that theme. 😲
i think you should do the goku video in two parts like end the first one in ssjblue so it wont be as bad
Future Gotham still the coolest
Though freeza is the one i want to see the most, i think it would make sense to do trunks next, or maybe piccolo with nail included and maybe slug as well
I personally like using great saiyaman 😅
if u press block or perception or side step while having wild sense active it wont auto dodge for you.
Can you cover every Frieza race character next?
I'm sorry someone had to but 1:25... pause
please make this a series, i wanna know if the goku i main is poopoo juice
Which goku you main?
@@Maixxe end of z
Kid Gohan and SSJ2 Teen Gohan both get buffs just for being in sparking mode! (Seperate from the Unforgivable! Buff), they're the only characters out of those I've tested so far that have this
Interested in Vegeta and Broly
WHEN BROLY⁉️
Do the best drink next time
*shoots a kamehame-ha, and it hits, dealing good damage.
*says "you shouldnt spend ki like that" (why?)
*has won every match so far because of afterimage-strike and instant-sparking
wow...
Do this for every character with multiple forms!
Ive been trying different vegetas and have had the most fun so far with majin
Strongest fusion next?
I think you should do a tierlist of EVERYONE!!! 😂 Help the community 🙏🏿
Do vegeta next if this becomes a series
Love adult Gohan. And the fact I can choose either the super saiyan route with ssj and ssj2 which have both fire lines when powering up in the midst of battle or great saiyaman when transforming his line “as long as there is evil” when doing justice rush is peak for me especially when going against a fusion character and putting belt 2 ass and then having an instant spark for ssj2 and also full power charge for base and ssj is peak for me💯
although this was weeks ago, i feel as if you had played future gohan against that gogeta where you were great saiyaman, it would’ve been way more notable
Shoulda waited for dlc 😅 but like the idea for a series
The Goten play was good. Evading majin Vegeta's ultimate like that.
Personal preference I would assume
For other characters I'd love to see one for the Androids and the human characters respectively.
Globku caught not watching the show again. Someone tells him that Great Saiyaman is NOT Gohan. They doesn't even sound the same, smh 🏃🧍♂️🏃♀️➡️🙄
11:57 actually SSJ Adult Gohan's Ultimate (Bros Kamehameha) is unblockable too
Ten schinhan armes are f**ked up , can you rewatch as he was blocking in the end against kid gohan
Future Gohan ftw ❤
How does this man find so many people who play weaker character!?
Everytime i play it's exclusively 8 to 10 DP characters...
Even the tier list thinks Gohan peaked as a teen. Damn it!
Seereax used to do these sort of videos on XV2. It was called the legacy videos? i think? he basically would pick a character like... goku and get win online with each variant of the character. It was really cool. Would love if you did the same in SZ
Short answer to the question: It doesn't matter since every character plas literally the same :)
Do the Nameks and non main characters Saiyans next.
how about all the buus
including uub
“Please don’t say Goku”. Ok then do vegeta.
In terms of cost>power, Teen Gohan/Adult Gohan are the way to go (heck even Great Saiyaman feels pretty good)
Kid Gohan probably has potential, haven't played him enough to properly comment
swag or fun factor personally is Ultimate Gohan even if he's 7 DP haha
Future Gohan feels solid but costing more and having 2 Blast Beams (and no Rush Blast) drops him a few points for me
You have to do "who is the best JOBBER"
I like these comparison videos