First off, I wanted to say I've been really enjoying this game, so this isn't me hating on the game. Any what if the game gives us is a plus. I'm just ranking them with each other, but lmk what your rankings would look like. Also, lots of comments talking about my character moving a lot. Ill be fixing that going forward!
in "if goku killed cell early" buu wouldn't awaken due to vegeta being able to fight goku whenever he wants, which means no majin vegeta and thus no distractions so no buu awaken, so no buu saga
With the what if sayain arc, since goku never needed to go into space, he would of never gotten the heart virus from yadrat or however you spell it, so even tho they wouldnt know about the androids so the zfighters would be more capable still
@@KeyReviewsOfficial and since its a what if, it doesnt have to be just Bulma either. Future Gohan, a "future goten" or whatever or hell, even Future yajirobe could give goku the meds and some future beans 🫛
Nah that's not how that works, when you go back in time you're going to a different timeline so these guys would be fucked anyway, bulma would go back in time only to find that warning the z fighters doesn't really do anything for her timeline
Considering that the first Saiyan Saga What If ends with all the Z Fighters alive and Goku having Kaio-Ken and Spirit Bomb, but not Super Saiyan, it makes perfect sense for this to be the timeline where the Turles and Slug movies take place.
@@YoooAwpthe movies include details that show they take place sometime after the Saiyan saga but Goku doesn’t have super Saiyan so it has to be before Namek saga somehow but everyone would be dead if that were the case. Ultimately these details make these movies “non-canon” but the Saiyan saga what if leaves the cast in a place where the Turles and Lord Slug movies are viable. Everyone necessary for the movies is alive, but Goku doesn’t have the things he obtained on Namek.
I would have loved a what if where gohan catches the earing in the buu saga so we could get Gokhan. Because from what we seen from Gohan black, anything can happen.
You missed a whole arc with Friezer when he arrives in Ressurection F. If he wins Beerus avoids Goku's death but in exchange gets his hole army back so now we have the Cold Family in the Tournament of Power
@@KeyReviewsOfficial Man, such a shame, it's one of the best ones! as we get to see a pretty neat scene of Freezer negotiating with Bills. It was always implied that Bills would step in to save earth if Goku and Vegeta fails, but it was nice to see exactly how it would play out.
So sad they cut vegetas story after buu saga finished. Could've easily had some T.O.P., especially considering he bodies a god of destruction during it.
Yeah that was stupid. Also not starting his at the Saiyan Saga. Goku Black and Jiren’s Episode Battles are completely pointless and if they hadn’t done them they could have had time to do Vegetas properly. Also stupid that the Tournament of Destroyers is absent entirely as well.
Yeah so much what ifs they coulda done with Vegeta in súper. What if Vegeta actually killed freezer in resurección F. What if Vegeta killed Black Goku when he overpowered him, avoiding fused zamasu. What if Vegeta won the TOP, 17 style. But nope, they probably ran out of development time, cause it seems odd that Vegeta, arguably the second most important character of the series, got his episodes finished after buu arc, like if we were in the 90s.
You missed the what if for frieza where he beats ssgss goku and Vegeta fast and beerus asks him to find a team for the tournament of power. You get four options to pick between the frieza force, the ginyu force, king cold or even cooler!
Jirens what if should have been what happened in the manga and anime. And I'll die on that hill. Keeping jiren as an unbeatable enigma for goku to rise up to while jiren learns empathy is good
In the story where Vegeta resists the Majin, Beerus probabily would not destroy earth, he'd go to Earth, love the food, they'd be no Buu to make him angry, and I'd just be left at that. Vegeta may ask to train with Whis as usual giving Beerus the Super Sayian god he wanted too.
Beerus wouldn't even go to Earth, Earth wasnt on his radar till the prophecy of the Super Saiyan God was told to him which is less of a possibility with Goku still in other world
@@SirPolygonshe was prompted to go to earth after hearing someone defeated Frieza and seeing Goku unlock Super Saiyan, Whis would tell Beerus that Goku is dead however Vegeta is alive so Beerus would go to Earth to ask about the Super Saiyan God
@@thegallantrayku2677 True, Vegeta would have no answers for Beerus but thankfully the only person who made Beerus angry is dead in this What If scenario since Vegeta killed Buu.
Gohan Black is OBVIOUS S TIER! On that note, Piccolo training Gohan on the time chamber is another easy S TIER! It’s like a book hitting the DBS fans telling them to VALUE THE STORY! FRIEZA AND CELL SAGA ARE PEAK BECAUSE OF WRITING! Not because Goku’s power levels was 2 elevated by 2 but put the elevation on the left instead of right. Piccolo training Gohan while understanding who Gohan is as a person was PEAK! I was holding back the manliest tiers when Piccolo became the best teacher and taught Gohan that he did everything he could once Cell was gone by the classic Kamehameha struggle with Piccolo being the helper instead of Vegeta.
@@Solorflare99that and stuff like unlocking pan after Gohan’s res F arc cause she was born around that time. Or getting bojack after the cell saga cause he was technically in between
I wanted Jiren’s ending to be his selfish wish to revive his old master, to basically show him that strength alone made him win but the master is disappointed at him for doing this and still not understanding the importance of teamwork. Later it leads to the Zenos deleting their universes since they stated originally if the wish was a selfish one, they would have also destroyed the existing universe
Actually Jiren has another ending not mentioned here, where he instead wishes for power because he did not learn or consider anything else along the route he took
@@KegOfMeat Yeah but the aftermaths of the tournament have 2 differents endings which depends if you take down kale or wait and see, the one where he is selfish is if he wins the top with the canon route, the other one where he wishes for the other universes to come back came from the alternative route
In the "Beerus comes to Earth with no Goku" endings, he could very easily go for Vegeta instead of the dead Goku, Vegeta can get his rage moment, someone can suggest Shenron, and they bring Goku back to empower Vegeta to Godhood to face Beerus instead.
Beerus probably wouldn't destroy the earth anyway! Remember that the thing that makes him rage out in BoG is that Buu is there and pisses him off. Without that, he'd be quelled by the food.
Android 17 becoming a mentor figure for Future Trunks was unexpected and extremely cool. I legit got emotional when he went out of his way to say goodbye to Trunks before he went to the pre-Zamasu future.
7:03 This What-If would likely result in us never even getting Majin Buu, as with only Super Saiyan, they probably couldn’t output enough power to awaken Buu.
Missed some What If's like: -What If Roshi fought Jiren -What If Frieza won in Resurrection F ~What If Cooler was in the ToP ~What If King Cold was in the ToP ~What If the Ginyu Force was in the Top ~What If Zarbon & Dadoria was in the ToP
The first one happened in the manga for like 30 seconds,the second should happen,last 2 ARE what ifs in the game cause there's a what if where the whole cold family is invited to the ToP Last 2 should DEFINITELY happen
Gohan black arc is what we should have got from the start. It's hands down far better than the goku black arc. Not only we have more scene with gohan and piccolo (one of the best relationship of DB), but it's also more emotionally hurting for future Trunks to face an evil version of his mentor/best friend, instead of an evil version of goku. But ever since the majin buu arc, toriyama dropped gohan completely because he was harrased by fans telling him "We DoN't WaNt GoHaN, wE wAnT gOkU aNd VeGeTa!!", even though Gohan was supposed to be the MC of the majin buu arc!! The gohan black arc is a clear exemple that a manga artist should give their fans what they need, and not what they want (or think they want).
On the topic of the No Majin Vegeta timeline, the reason why Beerus came to Earth when he did was because of the prophecy, which caused him to wake up at the earliest possible moment when six pure-hearted Saiyans were all alive on Earth at the same time. With Goku dead, that prophecy date would probably instead change to the date of Bulla's conception instead of Pan's, making Vegeta the prophesized Super Saiyan God. The issue, though, is that Resurrection F occurs before that date. The real question is that with Goku dead and Future Trunks not existing, would Frieza still do his training and go to Earth to take revenge? With Vegeta remaining on Earth the entire time, would they even be able to get the Earth Dragon Balls to revive Frieza? It's all very uncertain, but it seems interesting, leading into a strange version of Super with Vegeta as the main character instead of Goku.
16:23 honestly in my opinion the only thing this game needed more of is “what if” exclusive characters like a trunks and Gohan fusion to beat Gohan black and Zamasu
I would say a genuine criticism would be to have the character movement sync with the audio, (say upon enunciation of consonants) or even go with a change of pose to illustrate movement and more personality
I enjoy the Z "what if Goku wasn't the only character" scenarios. Also having Ultimate Gohan doing work in the Buu saga and Super is both satisfying and makes sense to follow with Gohan Black because imagine Zamasu realizing this universes Elder Kai bestowed a mortal with such power alongside his own dissatisfaction with mortals and gods. I'm hoping they'll add more scenarios too but there is modding and battle creator to look forward to seeing more what ifs.
You know, for the 'Goku takes out Black' timeline, they should have followed Goku's defeat up with some series of fights/events around sealing Zamasu away. This could have Master Roshi being important, or even get creative and have someone trick Zamasu into the time chamber before destroying the entrance after ensuring his time ring is gone, then fighting one last battle rather than just let Zamasu win. (To be wished free later.) The 'Gohan defeats Dabura' definitely should have at least had that spar with Goku, but consider the following: Imagine Zamasu finds out that Buu, the supposedly impossibly powerful creature, is still sealed on Earth. A Buu Black Arc (so to speak) could be an interesting route to take. Now imagine if there's a cutscene where Buu Black threatens Kaioshin, and Beerus intervenes, starting a clash that ultimately ends Buu for good... but also leaving him cranky and already at Earth. Cue one last fight of Gohan in God form (which would be a fresh spin on things) vs Beerus for the sake of the Earth's survival. The 'Piccolo defeats 17 and Cell' line should have had another part where 17 and 18 clash with the Z fighters again, leading into a TOP that doesn't include Frezia, I'd bank on both Androids being picks for this time around and some shuffling of who fights who, potentially ending with Toppo vs Piccolo (With Orange if you really want to pump things up a notch.) via Goku grappling Jiren (maybe with help) out of the ring in a sacrifice. Toppo vs Piccolo for the final decision of the TOP could be a really neat way to top off things.
Ending the Buu Saga early is huge because it also means that Gohan’s potential never gets unlocked by Elder Kai and completely changes the end of Z since Goku will never meet Uub
It isn't explained well in the video, but Goku still dies from the Special Beam Cannon against Vegeta, he just gets one more attack out first. They Revive him with the dragon balls before Vegeta's return. Vegeta even comments on it in game.
I just love playing through Gohan’s what ifs, since it gives me a look of how things were supposed to go since Gohan was supposed to be the main protagonist and I love him. Shame that Toriyama seemed to start despising the character during the Buu Saga
@KeyReviewsOfficial it's when you beat SSB Goku and Vegeta quickly in the RoF saga that leads to an alternate path of Freeza entering the ToP on his own terms
Something you don't mention is that every "what if" where Trunks doesn't show up, Goku would die from the heart disease. Since it's said that turning into Super Saiyan makes the symptoms worse, Goku gaining the form so early would actually end up killing him earlier too since Trunks wouldn't arrive to save him.
One fun detail about the Super Saiyan Goku vs Vegeta scenario is that Vegeta still has his Tail, and after you complete it you unlock SS4 Vegeta, implying Vegeta is headed down that path (maybe due to Cold and Cooler seeking revenge?), which could then lead to Goku and Gohan reaching the same level.
13:10 I don’t think Beerus would actually destroy the earth in the timeline. Originally he went to Goku first because the silhouette looks similar THEN goes to earth. I think after getting beaten by Beerus, Goku would use the time he has in between Beerus’ visit to earth to warn the earthlings and use shenron to revive him and find out how to become Super Saiyan God. Whether it’s Goku being or Vegeta that gets Super Saiyan God, the timeline will eventually return to the one we’re familiar with.
An implication you missed in the Savior storyline is that Goku beating Frieza while only in base form has HUGE implications. Either Goku has somehow become so strong that he reaches Super Saiyan levels without needing to transform, OR he has become so skilled that he can defeat enemies who are WAY more powerful than him through martial arts alone. Either way, it's the most positive What-If from the Namek Saga in terms of whether the Z-Warriors are ready for the androids or not.
I’ve seen so many shorts of this game with thousands and thousands of views! You’ve gotta make a short somehow that shows you’ll be ranking them because this definitely deserves more recognition! Great video Edit: shorts of the Sparking Episodes, not specifically the gameplay
It's funny to think about Gohan Black too much, because it implies that Gohan slacking off at his training and getting curb stomped by Freeza ultimately had the impact of leading to the complete erasure of Trunks' timeline.
Ok so really quick before I continue the video, just wanted to say that I heard somewhere that it’s only because of Trunks and his time traveling Shenanagins that the Androids even existed at all, like him being some sort of anomaly coming to the past is what resulted in the androids coming alive at all. Of course don’t take just my word for it. There are probably a ton of sources that either back this claim up or debunk it entirely. Also before anyone points out anything, it was confirmed that future trunks time traveling didn’t end up traveling back in time to his past, but the past of another timeline, which is why after defeating the androids, let alone warning Goku and the Z fighters didn’t change anything in his present time. So in reality, these what-if’s don’t really have to face that scenario of the Androids coming to kill them all unless they are either a different set of androids or complete different events occur to only result in the same path, just without trunks and Goku would probably still be alive and if he had mastered Super Saiyan as the guy in the video suggested, then the Androids stand no chance at that point, especially because they would only have data on an unmastered Super Saiyan instead of a Mastered and he would have plenty of time, and he would get Mastered Ssj, because he was the one that discovered and obtained its mastery.
I honestly can't wait for people to add on to these what-ifs with the Scenario Creator or whatever it's called. It'd allow them to play out until either the end of the anime or the manga.
Actually during the part where Goku stays dead, Beerus wouldn't destroy the planet most likely since Majin Buu never revived, which is what enraged him
I REALLY liked the version of events where the Z-Fighters are more useful. While yes that does take away from badass showing Nappa had in the original version, it was so dope seeing them be useful again, and not in a way that that seemed silly, but actually plausible.
I’m pretty sure it’s stated in between the Vegeta battle and Frieza’s arrival that Goku did train with king Kai and mastered the kaioken quickly which is why we have Z mid Goku during the invasion part instead of Z early Goku
@@LikeableLevi Something that he forgot to mention is that Goku did die from the Special Beam Cannon injury, He just got revived a few months after. All this I sayed is stated in a cutscene, so don't worry, they thought this out better than it looks
My favorite was Frieza being the one to choose his own team for the tournament of power, seeing cooler or king cold at his side was sick, I really wish they implemented the movie characters in the what ifs more
Not going to lie, it DOES bother me somewhat that Goku was so bent on wanting to give Vegeta a second chance so many times in so many scenarios, but never thought to bring back Raditz, his own blood brother, and give him a chance to live a happy, Freeza-free life, that their father probably would've wished for them.
You missed one for Frieza where he wins in resurrection F, he beats Goku and Vegeta then ends up resurrecting Zarbon, Dodoria, The Ginyu Force, King Cold and even Cooler, then ends up being invited to the Tournament of Power and you can choose between the resurrected options on who to fight with in the tournament.
The big issue I have with the first one is, without Piccolo there, Piccolo never tells Raditz about the dragon balls, which means Vegeta and Nappa don't overhear through his scouter transmission about the dragon balls, so why would they be going to Earth? They didn't actually care one whit about Raditz after all, so him dying would've just been met with an unenthused "Oh well"
If Goku defeats Freeza without transforming in super saiyan, he would not be able to teach gohan how to do it, and so gohan will not be able to teach trunks, who will not be able to teach it back to Goku. In this scenario everyone is killed by the androids.
Love the video man, it's very fun to see, but... seeing your one pose of your character bobbing up and down constantly, thinking it would change, is a bit off-putting and distracts me from the video. Please, either make multiple poses of your character or have him appear a lot less frequently or have him move a lot less, thank you.
2:40 let's not forget these saiyan saga level fighters took out frieza who was at the peak of power for his own saga, of course they'll take out the androids, maybe just some light training and they beat gero and android 19, if the butterfly effect somehow happens only
By looking thumbnail i thought u just rank story but u also explaining they story then u rank that's nice . Thank u i didn't know the what if because i don't have ps5😢. Btw i am still watching video so i will comment some my opinion soon
man i didn't know the game was THIS good. spoilers are super important, if it wasn't for the spoilers here i would have skippewd the game. Thank you. no more spoiler-free reviews for me!
The only thing I’m not sure about is the whole “Beerus might destroy Earth without Goku there” bit. As the main thing that initially set him off wouldn’t happen in that timeline as Buu isn’t there to eat all of the pudding. Plus if they still summon Shenron to find out more about the Super Saiyan God then when they realise they’re one Saiyan short for the ritual then Weiss could probably just go back to King Kai’s planet and revive Goku himself
All these What IF’s in Dragon Ball Sparking Zero. It’s making Miguel from The Spider-Verse want to intervene and correct the timeline by force. “IT HAD TO HAPPEN THIS WAY. ITS A CANON EVENT”
Honestly I would have loved a majin buu story, theres so many what if’s, “what if buu beat ssj3 goku”, “what if buuhan beat vegeto”, and “what if buu was in the tournament of power” etc
I don't think that the team would be weaker if goku defeats cell early. Goku, Gohan, and Piccolo would have each other to train with over the next seven years. I think think the earthlings like Krillin and Yamcha would be a lot stronger too. While Gohan wouldn't spike in power during any cell games, he would occationally be training with Goku just to connect with him. Gohan's potential is insane so I think he'd be a lot stronger than he was in canon. Remember, his power dropped massively in the original canon due to him dropping training entirely.
I actually love how MasakoX does the what ifs and keeps trunks in the scenarios even if its a timeline where he doesn't exist and just has to adjust to the situation. The baseline dragonball universe still exist, so technically trunks should be able to go into a timeline he does not exist in.
Feedback from the motion sick guy from the other side of the screen: _maybe move a little bit less, when you talk._ I get that you want to sell the idea that you are talking, without to have to animate the mouth, but (beside the fact that other youtubers just use statics images and it still works) the "bouncing" is exaggerated and it would look better if limited (for me). That's it. Accept the feedback, or just ignore it. My goal was to be helpful.
Grest video, yadda yadda, bouncing avatar, youve already heard it before. Seriously, i like this video, its actually helped remind me of a few what ifs i skipped over!
Goku beating Big Buu might've been short but it made sense. Goku never saw Buu as a menace, just someone who was misguided and Big Buu is innocent enough to befriend Hercule; he'd definitely switch sides for some candy.
This video is pretty good! A criticism I have, however, is that bouncing movement you make your OC do, it's almost nauseating and doesn't look too good, having him standing still and just changing his pose is way better.
Gohan was the real Main character... but people are so dumb that they forced keeping Goku as main character, that's why they just changed his hair color so many times ! We could have had so many badass storylines if Gohan was better in GT and Super ! He deserved it, and was just forgotten.
In this Goku What if, instead of Trunks, the person who could have used the time machine could have been Mirai Gohan, since Trunks would not exist in this version, Gohan would probably stay alive since he was the last warrior on earth, and could end the arc with Goku and Mirai Gohan doing the Kamehame-han together against Cell.
The Vageta what if where he overcomes Bobbidi's control should have lead into an alternate Battle of gods where Vegeta is the one granted the Super Saiyan God transformation and fought Beerus.
Actually everytime trunks travels through time he isn’t directly going back in time but he’s traveling to a different timeline as a whole. So technically it’s possible trunks shows up no matter what
The video is fine, but if I were you I would tone down on how animated your character is, mostly because with the way your moving him it can be rather distracting. it might be for the best to slow down the bobbing of your character or get more frames to use and swap between them more often and cut out the bobbing. Other then that I did enjoy the video and I am a fan of how you implemented personal anecdotes about your experiences with some of the fights (e.g. almost failing the Piccolo fight.) adds a personal flair to it.
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First off, I wanted to say I've been really enjoying this game, so this isn't me hating on the game. Any what if the game gives us is a plus. I'm just ranking them with each other, but lmk what your rankings would look like. Also, lots of comments talking about my character moving a lot. Ill be fixing that going forward!
Still wonder why didn't we get the FULL Trunks episode ngl
in "if goku killed cell early" buu wouldn't awaken due to vegeta being able to fight goku whenever he wants, which means no majin vegeta and thus no distractions so no buu awaken, so no buu saga
I think you missed one with Frieza (what if he wins during the Resurrection F arc)
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With the what if sayain arc, since goku never needed to go into space, he would of never gotten the heart virus from yadrat or however you spell it, so even tho they wouldnt know about the androids so the zfighters would be more capable still
Also, I want to point out that you don't need Trunks to warn Goku about the Androids. Bulma can just use the time machine herself and warn Goku.
Ohh you might be right. Completely slipped my mind while I was scripting this video, lmao
@@KeyReviewsOfficial and since its a what if, it doesnt have to be just Bulma either. Future Gohan, a "future goten" or whatever or hell, even Future yajirobe could give goku the meds and some future beans 🫛
Nah that's not how that works, when you go back in time you're going to a different timeline so these guys would be fucked anyway, bulma would go back in time only to find that warning the z fighters doesn't really do anything for her timeline
I mean this shows team ups are very important more than power plus nothing is stopping them from getting super saiyan and have a surprise win
@@AndyLeeVlogs Future Bean Daddy coming in to save the timeline is nuts.
Considering that the first Saiyan Saga What If ends with all the Z Fighters alive and Goku having Kaio-Ken and Spirit Bomb, but not Super Saiyan, it makes perfect sense for this to be the timeline where the Turles and Slug movies take place.
Why? ( i never seen the turles movie)
@@YoooAwpthe movies include details that show they take place sometime after the Saiyan saga but Goku doesn’t have super Saiyan so it has to be before Namek saga somehow but everyone would be dead if that were the case. Ultimately these details make these movies “non-canon” but the Saiyan saga what if leaves the cast in a place where the Turles and Lord Slug movies are viable. Everyone necessary for the movies is alive, but Goku doesn’t have the things he obtained on Namek.
@@DesX42S ohhh ok that’s actually makes a lot sense thanks for the explanation(:
@@DesX42SHow i wished there were more stories in the game, maybe future updates
But how does Goku know Kaioken and the Spirit Bomb if he never dies and trains with King Kai?
I love how in the What If Goku survived Raditiz the Z-Fighters do what everyone complains they never do: team up and jump their opponent
DBZ: JJK jumping edition "may be weaker than you but theres only 1 of you for 10 of us"
I was literally screaming jump his butt! When it happened I was so hyped
I would have loved a what if where gohan catches the earing in the buu saga so we could get Gokhan. Because from what we seen from Gohan black, anything can happen.
You missed a whole arc with Friezer when he arrives in Ressurection F. If he wins Beerus avoids Goku's death but in exchange gets his hole army back so now we have the Cold Family in the Tournament of Power
Yea, I've been told I missed that. Honestly, I just didn't realize there was another what if from friezas story. Sounds pretty good tho
@@KeyReviewsOfficial Man, such a shame, it's one of the best ones! as we get to see a pretty neat scene of Freezer negotiating with Bills. It was always implied that Bills would step in to save earth if Goku and Vegeta fails, but it was nice to see exactly how it would play out.
@@KeyReviewsOfficialJiren also technically has 3 endings but they're all pretty much the same except the losing one which is just the canon ending
Wait huh? I didnt get anything for Frieza after defeating Goku on anamek. Do i need to lose to get there?
@OptimusCrlme No, it's from the Ressurection F battle. If you beat Goku and Vegeta fast enough it leads to this what if.
So sad they cut vegetas story after buu saga finished. Could've easily had some T.O.P., especially considering he bodies a god of destruction during it.
Yeah that was stupid. Also not starting his at the Saiyan Saga. Goku Black and Jiren’s Episode Battles are completely pointless and if they hadn’t done them they could have had time to do Vegetas properly. Also stupid that the Tournament of Destroyers is absent entirely as well.
Yeah so much what ifs they coulda done with Vegeta in súper. What if Vegeta actually killed freezer in resurección F. What if Vegeta killed Black Goku when he overpowered him, avoiding fused zamasu. What if Vegeta won the TOP, 17 style. But nope, they probably ran out of development time, cause it seems odd that Vegeta, arguably the second most important character of the series, got his episodes finished after buu arc, like if we were in the 90s.
The only way to kinda do that is to play a what-if of Gohan
They will probably add some in future dlc
I HOPE they add more to the story with the upcoming DLC, maybe even giving us whole other characters' stories
You missed the what if for frieza where he beats ssgss goku and Vegeta fast and beerus asks him to find a team for the tournament of power. You get four options to pick between the frieza force, the ginyu force, king cold or even cooler!
Jirens what if should have been what happened in the manga and anime. And I'll die on that hill. Keeping jiren as an unbeatable enigma for goku to rise up to while jiren learns empathy is good
Fair enough, I can’t really argue with you there. It works.
In the story where Vegeta resists the Majin, Beerus probabily would not destroy earth, he'd go to Earth, love the food, they'd be no Buu to make him angry, and I'd just be left at that. Vegeta may ask to train with Whis as usual giving Beerus the Super Sayian god he wanted too.
Beerus wouldn't even go to Earth, Earth wasnt on his radar till the prophecy of the Super Saiyan God was told to him which is less of a possibility with Goku still in other world
@@SirPolygonshe was prompted to go to earth after hearing someone defeated Frieza and seeing Goku unlock Super Saiyan, Whis would tell Beerus that Goku is dead however Vegeta is alive so Beerus would go to Earth to ask about the Super Saiyan God
@@thegallantrayku2677 True, Vegeta would have no answers for Beerus but thankfully the only person who made Beerus angry is dead in this What If scenario since Vegeta killed Buu.
Gohan Black is OBVIOUS S TIER!
On that note, Piccolo training Gohan on the time chamber is another easy S TIER!
It’s like a book hitting the DBS fans telling them to VALUE THE STORY! FRIEZA AND CELL SAGA ARE PEAK BECAUSE OF WRITING!
Not because Goku’s power levels was 2 elevated by 2 but put the elevation on the left instead of right.
Piccolo training Gohan while understanding who Gohan is as a person was PEAK! I was holding back the manliest tiers when Piccolo became the best teacher and taught Gohan that he did everything he could once Cell was gone by the classic Kamehameha struggle with Piccolo being the helper instead of Vegeta.
bro is doing a youtube video on a raft in the middle of a storm
Fun fact you can actually play as Gohan Black in some custom battles but for some reason bandi is trying to take them down.
They're probably taking those down because it's unintended. Plus Bandai announced that Gohan Black is going to be a DLC character
@@underwater1997 when did they EVER say that
@@underwater1997No the fuck they didn't
bandai never said anything about gohan black being put into a dlc or anything else, people are just lying through their teeth
Because people hacked the game, made those custom battles and uploaded them. You're not supposed to be able to do so.
In the timeline where Goku doesn't go to Namek also means Dr Gero gets more info about them, for a more ruthless win.
✨️Plot armor ✨️
Since Goku doesn't get the virus chances are with his plot armor he gains super saiyan 2 in this timeline.
@@reddytoplay9188 But he WOULD get the virus. It's never been said that he only gets it because he goes to Namek or else Vegeta would have it too.
you don't know that he may or may not we don't know what caused the heart virus
Bruh, why do you have your avatar bouncing around like he's on crack?! T~T
cowgirl training
I was chilling then when I noticed it it was driving me crazy
I think he's timing that when he talks
Got that dvd idle screen potion in his system
Doing tricks on it
4:34 I still think it's really cool that after you complete this what-if, you unlock SSJ4 Vegeta because he kept his tail.
I love a little attention to detail things that. Although ultimately inconsequential, it is just a clever choice that makes you think a little.
@@Solorflare99that and stuff like unlocking pan after Gohan’s res F arc cause she was born around that time. Or getting bojack after the cell saga cause he was technically in between
I wanted Jiren’s ending to be his selfish wish to revive his old master, to basically show him that strength alone made him win but the master is disappointed at him for doing this and still not understanding the importance of teamwork. Later it leads to the Zenos deleting their universes since they stated originally if the wish was a selfish one, they would have also destroyed the existing universe
Actually Jiren has another ending not mentioned here, where he instead wishes for power because he did not learn or consider anything else along the route he took
@@rafacastillo9611no he doesn’t. He either loses to Goku, loses to Goku, 17 and Frieza or wins.
@@KegOfMeat Yeah but the aftermaths of the tournament have 2 differents endings which depends if you take down kale or wait and see, the one where he is selfish is if he wins the top with the canon route, the other one where he wishes for the other universes to come back came from the alternative route
I actually like this better. In the manga at least Jiren was always a hero at heart who had no real interest in the dragon balls.
@@joelsasmadthe whole wish to revive his master is specifically word for word spoken by jiren in the manga top
In the "Beerus comes to Earth with no Goku" endings, he could very easily go for Vegeta instead of the dead Goku, Vegeta can get his rage moment, someone can suggest Shenron, and they bring Goku back to empower Vegeta to Godhood to face Beerus instead.
Beerus probably wouldn't destroy the earth anyway! Remember that the thing that makes him rage out in BoG is that Buu is there and pisses him off. Without that, he'd be quelled by the food.
Goku can't be brought back Via Shenron though.
@@ghoulchan7525 However, he can get a day on Earth once a year.
@@toumabyakuya actually i don't think it's once a Year. It's just One Time period. At least if i remember it right
@@ghoulchan7525 nope it's once a year
Something about the super saiyan form with the original saiyan armor just looks so clean to me
Android 17 becoming a mentor figure for Future Trunks was unexpected and extremely cool. I legit got emotional when he went out of his way to say goodbye to Trunks before he went to the pre-Zamasu future.
The ONLY issue I have with the Gohan Black story is that we don't get to fight Hit. That's it.
7:03 This What-If would likely result in us never even getting Majin Buu, as with only Super Saiyan, they probably couldn’t output enough power to awaken Buu.
Supreme Kai believed super Saiyan was enough to awake Buu. Ss2 just made it like 100x faster
Missed some What If's like:
-What If Roshi fought Jiren
-What If Frieza won in Resurrection F
~What If Cooler was in the ToP
~What If King Cold was in the ToP
~What If the Ginyu Force was in the Top
~What If Zarbon & Dadoria was in the ToP
The first one happened in the manga for like 30 seconds,the second should happen,last 2 ARE what ifs in the game
cause there's a what if where the whole cold family is invited to the ToP
Last 2 should DEFINITELY happen
Gohan black arc is what we should have got from the start.
It's hands down far better than the goku black arc.
Not only we have more scene with gohan and piccolo (one of the best relationship of DB), but it's also more emotionally hurting for future Trunks to face an evil version of his mentor/best friend, instead of an evil version of goku.
But ever since the majin buu arc, toriyama dropped gohan completely because he was harrased by fans telling him "We DoN't WaNt GoHaN, wE wAnT gOkU aNd VeGeTa!!", even though Gohan was supposed to be the MC of the majin buu arc!!
The gohan black arc is a clear exemple that a manga artist should give their fans what they need, and not what they want (or think they want).
On the topic of the No Majin Vegeta timeline, the reason why Beerus came to Earth when he did was because of the prophecy, which caused him to wake up at the earliest possible moment when six pure-hearted Saiyans were all alive on Earth at the same time. With Goku dead, that prophecy date would probably instead change to the date of Bulla's conception instead of Pan's, making Vegeta the prophesized Super Saiyan God.
The issue, though, is that Resurrection F occurs before that date. The real question is that with Goku dead and Future Trunks not existing, would Frieza still do his training and go to Earth to take revenge? With Vegeta remaining on Earth the entire time, would they even be able to get the Earth Dragon Balls to revive Frieza? It's all very uncertain, but it seems interesting, leading into a strange version of Super with Vegeta as the main character instead of Goku.
I don't think he would train because he still thinks Vegeta is not a Super Saiyan or he destroyed the earth
16:23 honestly in my opinion the only thing this game needed more of is “what if” exclusive characters like a trunks and Gohan fusion to beat Gohan black and Zamasu
Also an alternate version of fused zamasu should've been done since Gohan was used instead of Goku.
@ there is and I don’t blame you for not noticing, zoom into the face and you’ll see that his hair is different along with a few parts of his body
As somebody who skips every cutscene because i want blood, I'm truly enjoying your breakdown
Can your character stop f****** moving
I would say a genuine criticism would be to have the character movement sync with the audio, (say upon enunciation of consonants) or even go with a change of pose to illustrate movement and more personality
oh and have the movement be more subtle instead of bobbing like a buoy on rough waters LOL
I enjoy the Z "what if Goku wasn't the only character" scenarios. Also having Ultimate Gohan doing work in the Buu saga and Super is both satisfying and makes sense to follow with Gohan Black because imagine Zamasu realizing this universes Elder Kai bestowed a mortal with such power alongside his own dissatisfaction with mortals and gods.
I'm hoping they'll add more scenarios too but there is modding and battle creator to look forward to seeing more what ifs.
You know, for the 'Goku takes out Black' timeline, they should have followed Goku's defeat up with some series of fights/events around sealing Zamasu away. This could have Master Roshi being important, or even get creative and have someone trick Zamasu into the time chamber before destroying the entrance after ensuring his time ring is gone, then fighting one last battle rather than just let Zamasu win. (To be wished free later.)
The 'Gohan defeats Dabura' definitely should have at least had that spar with Goku, but consider the following: Imagine Zamasu finds out that Buu, the supposedly impossibly powerful creature, is still sealed on Earth. A Buu Black Arc (so to speak) could be an interesting route to take. Now imagine if there's a cutscene where Buu Black threatens Kaioshin, and Beerus intervenes, starting a clash that ultimately ends Buu for good... but also leaving him cranky and already at Earth. Cue one last fight of Gohan in God form (which would be a fresh spin on things) vs Beerus for the sake of the Earth's survival.
The 'Piccolo defeats 17 and Cell' line should have had another part where 17 and 18 clash with the Z fighters again, leading into a TOP that doesn't include Frezia, I'd bank on both Androids being picks for this time around and some shuffling of who fights who, potentially ending with Toppo vs Piccolo (With Orange if you really want to pump things up a notch.) via Goku grappling Jiren (maybe with help) out of the ring in a sacrifice. Toppo vs Piccolo for the final decision of the TOP could be a really neat way to top off things.
Ending the Buu Saga early is huge because it also means that Gohan’s potential never gets unlocked by Elder Kai and completely changes the end of Z since Goku will never meet Uub
6:47 the biggest change for the future of Goku is in this timeline he never learns instant transmission
He would also have to be way stronger in base to win via pure hands.
1:58 how did Goku get the spirit bomb if he never visited King Kia’s planet
It isn't explained well in the video, but Goku still dies from the Special Beam Cannon against Vegeta, he just gets one more attack out first. They Revive him with the dragon balls before Vegeta's return. Vegeta even comments on it in game.
I just love playing through Gohan’s what ifs, since it gives me a look of how things were supposed to go since Gohan was supposed to be the main protagonist and I love him. Shame that Toriyama seemed to start despising the character during the Buu Saga
Im surprised you didn't covered Freeza's episode when you arrive in the RoF Saga that goes towards multiple paths in the ToP
Whatt!!! There's another frieza mission? I swear I didn't see another one
@KeyReviewsOfficial it's when you beat SSB Goku and Vegeta quickly in the RoF saga that leads to an alternate path of Freeza entering the ToP on his own terms
@@KeyReviewsOfficial Yeah its fucking great xD you can get the ginyu force into the top
@@RyomaGX the one with cooler?
@@KeyReviewsOfficialIt's really good. It has 4 different routes for the ToP section when you get it
Something you don't mention is that every "what if" where Trunks doesn't show up, Goku would die from the heart disease.
Since it's said that turning into Super Saiyan makes the symptoms worse, Goku gaining the form so early would actually end up killing him earlier too since Trunks wouldn't arrive to save him.
One fun detail about the Super Saiyan Goku vs Vegeta scenario is that Vegeta still has his Tail, and after you complete it you unlock SS4 Vegeta, implying Vegeta is headed down that path (maybe due to Cold and Cooler seeking revenge?), which could then lead to Goku and Gohan reaching the same level.
13:10 I don’t think Beerus would actually destroy the earth in the timeline. Originally he went to Goku first because the silhouette looks similar THEN goes to earth. I think after getting beaten by Beerus, Goku would use the time he has in between Beerus’ visit to earth to warn the earthlings and use shenron to revive him and find out how to become Super Saiyan God. Whether it’s Goku being or Vegeta that gets Super Saiyan God, the timeline will eventually return to the one we’re familiar with.
An implication you missed in the Savior storyline is that Goku beating Frieza while only in base form has HUGE implications. Either Goku has somehow become so strong that he reaches Super Saiyan levels without needing to transform, OR he has become so skilled that he can defeat enemies who are WAY more powerful than him through martial arts alone.
Either way, it's the most positive What-If from the Namek Saga in terms of whether the Z-Warriors are ready for the androids or not.
Absolutely goated video! Good stuff, dude
Thank you!!
I’ve seen so many shorts of this game with thousands and thousands of views! You’ve gotta make a short somehow that shows you’ll be ranking them because this definitely deserves more recognition! Great video
Edit: shorts of the Sparking Episodes, not specifically the gameplay
The shorts algorithm does not like me 😭 but I can try something like that. Btw thank you!!
5:27 Yeah... Not exactly a fan of the ending as I find Vegeta got away too easy. In canon, he's kinda have karma when Frieza killed him.
Honestly the biggest twist for Jiren's what-if is the fact it actually gives him character
when your avatar pops up and i try to look at them the jumping up and down really messes with my brain.
I've been told. I'll fix that going forward
@@KeyReviewsOfficial thanks, sorry. Other than that the video was pretty interesting.
It's funny to think about Gohan Black too much, because it implies that Gohan slacking off at his training and getting curb stomped by Freeza ultimately had the impact of leading to the complete erasure of Trunks' timeline.
Ok so really quick before I continue the video, just wanted to say that I heard somewhere that it’s only because of Trunks and his time traveling Shenanagins that the Androids even existed at all, like him being some sort of anomaly coming to the past is what resulted in the androids coming alive at all. Of course don’t take just my word for it. There are probably a ton of sources that either back this claim up or debunk it entirely.
Also before anyone points out anything, it was confirmed that future trunks time traveling didn’t end up traveling back in time to his past, but the past of another timeline, which is why after defeating the androids, let alone warning Goku and the Z fighters didn’t change anything in his present time.
So in reality, these what-if’s don’t really have to face that scenario of the Androids coming to kill them all unless they are either a different set of androids or complete different events occur to only result in the same path, just without trunks and Goku would probably still be alive and if he had mastered Super Saiyan as the guy in the video suggested, then the Androids stand no chance at that point, especially because they would only have data on an unmastered Super Saiyan instead of a Mastered and he would have plenty of time, and he would get Mastered Ssj, because he was the one that discovered and obtained its mastery.
I honestly can't wait for people to add on to these what-ifs with the Scenario Creator or whatever it's called. It'd allow them to play out until either the end of the anime or the manga.
Actually during the part where Goku stays dead, Beerus wouldn't destroy the planet most likely since Majin Buu never revived, which is what enraged him
WHY MY MAN CELL CAKED TF UP AT 18:23
GOD DAM!!!
I REALLY liked the version of events where the Z-Fighters are more useful. While yes that does take away from badass showing Nappa had in the original version, it was so dope seeing them be useful again, and not in a way that that seemed silly, but actually plausible.
enjoyed the vid - if theres one gripe I have its the talksprite bouncing around a bit too intensely lol but yeah good work
Is anyone going to point out? The fact that Goku learned how do you spirit bomb without going to other worlds with king Kai?
I’m pretty sure it’s stated in between the Vegeta battle and Frieza’s arrival that Goku did train with king Kai and mastered the kaioken quickly which is why we have Z mid Goku during the invasion part instead of Z early Goku
@@MegaKazooRider how did he meet King Kai is what I’m asking
He died after fighting vegeta the first time around. For about 3 months, then as vegeta came back to ask for help to fight freezer he was revived
@@LikeableLevi Something that he forgot to mention is that Goku did die from the Special Beam Cannon injury, He just got revived a few months after. All this I sayed is stated in a cutscene, so don't worry, they thought this out better than it looks
Oohhhhh thank you
My favorite was Frieza being the one to choose his own team for the tournament of power, seeing cooler or king cold at his side was sick, I really wish they implemented the movie characters in the what ifs more
I broke down laughing when you showed the Babidi with the caption "Stupid"
Not going to lie, it DOES bother me somewhat that Goku was so bent on wanting to give Vegeta a second chance so many times in so many scenarios, but never thought to bring back Raditz, his own blood brother, and give him a chance to live a happy, Freeza-free life, that their father probably would've wished for them.
You missed one for Frieza where he wins in resurrection F, he beats Goku and Vegeta then ends up resurrecting Zarbon, Dodoria, The Ginyu Force, King Cold and even Cooler, then ends up being invited to the Tournament of Power and you can choose between the resurrected options on who to fight with in the tournament.
The big issue I have with the first one is, without Piccolo there, Piccolo never tells Raditz about the dragon balls, which means Vegeta and Nappa don't overhear through his scouter transmission about the dragon balls, so why would they be going to Earth? They didn't actually care one whit about Raditz after all, so him dying would've just been met with an unenthused "Oh well"
good point but tbf maybe they went to try and recruit goku? but I haven't played the game so I wouldn't know
Awesome video, man! Hopefully we'll get some more what-if's with dlc! It's one of my favorite parts of the sparking games.
I hope so too!
Imagine a what if scenario where Buu’s dog wasn’t shot
If Goku defeats Freeza without transforming in super saiyan, he would not be able to teach gohan how to do it, and so gohan will not be able to teach trunks, who will not be able to teach it back to Goku. In this scenario everyone is killed by the androids.
Your portrait bobbing up and down so violently is giving me motion sickness
Sorry 😭
@@KeyReviewsOfficial if it helps, eyes closed I agreed with almost everything you actually said lol
@@TheSteakJustice Lmao thank you
Love the video man, it's very fun to see, but... seeing your one pose of your character bobbing up and down constantly, thinking it would change, is a bit off-putting and distracts me from the video.
Please, either make multiple poses of your character or have him appear a lot less frequently or have him move a lot less, thank you.
Will do
2:40 let's not forget these saiyan saga level fighters took out frieza who was at the peak of power for his own saga, of course they'll take out the androids, maybe just some light training and they beat gero and android 19, if the butterfly effect somehow happens only
It makes sense that the majority of Gohan's What Ifs are just what people expected to happen during the Buu Saga
Trunks in t.o.p. easily the one that made the most sense
By looking thumbnail i thought u just rank story but u also explaining they story then u rank that's nice . Thank u i didn't know the what if because i don't have ps5😢. Btw i am still watching video so i will comment some my opinion soon
man i didn't know the game was THIS good. spoilers are super important, if it wasn't for the spoilers here i would have skippewd the game. Thank you. no more spoiler-free reviews for me!
Would be rad if they added more what-if scenarios in the future.
This is insane😮
The only thing I’m not sure about is the whole “Beerus might destroy Earth without Goku there” bit. As the main thing that initially set him off wouldn’t happen in that timeline as Buu isn’t there to eat all of the pudding.
Plus if they still summon Shenron to find out more about the Super Saiyan God then when they realise they’re one Saiyan short for the ritual then Weiss could probably just go back to King Kai’s planet and revive Goku himself
Trunks in T.o.P would've made more sense than half the roster they pulled up with. 😅
All these What IF’s in Dragon Ball Sparking Zero. It’s making Miguel from The Spider-Verse want to intervene and correct the timeline by force.
“IT HAD TO HAPPEN THIS WAY. ITS A CANON EVENT”
I actually like the idea of Jiren winning the T.O.P. and wishing for all of the universes back.
Yo you needa chill with the bouncing graphics and character drawing it’s a little disorienting especially with a headache going on
Honestly I would have loved a majin buu story, theres so many what if’s, “what if buu beat ssj3 goku”, “what if buuhan beat vegeto”, and “what if buu was in the tournament of power” etc
Nice vid, keep it up
Also sidenote your voice kinda reminds me of Mystic Umbreon I’m not sure if it’s you or not but it definitely sounds familiar.
trunks isnt needed to warn people about the androids. Bulma would just go herself.
I don't think that the team would be weaker if goku defeats cell early.
Goku, Gohan, and Piccolo would have each other to train with over the next seven years. I think think the earthlings like Krillin and Yamcha would be a lot stronger too.
While Gohan wouldn't spike in power during any cell games, he would occationally be training with Goku just to connect with him. Gohan's potential is insane so I think he'd be a lot stronger than he was in canon. Remember, his power dropped massively in the original canon due to him dropping training entirely.
I actually love how MasakoX does the what ifs and keeps trunks in the scenarios even if its a timeline where he doesn't exist and just has to adjust to the situation. The baseline dragonball universe still exist, so technically trunks should be able to go into a timeline he does not exist in.
Feedback from the motion sick guy from the other side of the screen: _maybe move a little bit less, when you talk._
I get that you want to sell the idea that you are talking, without to have to animate the mouth, but (beside the fact that other youtubers just use statics images and it still works) the "bouncing" is exaggerated and it would look better if limited (for me).
That's it. Accept the feedback, or just ignore it. My goal was to be helpful.
@BETMARKonTube A lot of other people mentioned that, and going forward, I'll be changing it. Sorry, and thanks for the feedback!
@@KeyReviewsOfficial
I'm sorry I didn't notice sooner that the topic was already mentioned.
Anyway. Always glad to help, if I can.
Trunks didn't take Roshi's place in the T.O.P because he's right there. 20:34. He prob took Frieza's spot
@sontheboss Yea, i didn't see him until earlier today
He took friezas
6:56 years ago Saled Sayin covered that what if but never finished it.
It’s downright criminal that they ended Vegeta’s story at the Buu arc in this game
Grest video, yadda yadda, bouncing avatar, youve already heard it before. Seriously, i like this video, its actually helped remind me of a few what ifs i skipped over!
I'm changing that going forward. Sorry!
20:38 : "I don't know if he takes the place of freezer or roshi in the top"
Master roshi 5 seconds before : 👁👄👁
I completely didn't see him until someone pointed it out 😂😂
I wish some of the what if’s lead to the movies happening. Would of been so cool
great vid but definitely need some flashing light warnings
Still need to do a bit of these, piccolo gohan and frieza but im loving all of it thus far.
Goku beating Big Buu might've been short but it made sense. Goku never saw Buu as a menace, just someone who was misguided and Big Buu is innocent enough to befriend Hercule; he'd definitely switch sides for some candy.
why is ur character moving is he taking backshots mid video
It’s lowkey disorienting to watch
Jiren didn't intend to wish the universes back originally, so that was a surprise.
3:01 don't forget cell would also have the ginyu force abilitys too since dr gero would be recording the fight on earth
This video is pretty good! A criticism I have, however, is that bouncing movement you make your OC do, it's almost nauseating and doesn't look too good, having him standing still and just changing his pose is way better.
they really need to do more what if's, hopefully when dlc's come out there will be heaps
The Redeemed Buu What If was almost canon funny enough. All thanks to Mr. Satan
Gohan was the real Main character... but people are so dumb that they forced keeping Goku as main character, that's why they just changed his hair color so many times !
We could have had so many badass storylines if Gohan was better in GT and Super ! He deserved it, and was just forgotten.
In this Goku What if, instead of Trunks, the person who could have used the time machine could have been Mirai Gohan, since Trunks would not exist in this version, Gohan would probably stay alive since he was the last warrior on earth, and could end the arc with Goku and Mirai Gohan doing the Kamehame-han together against Cell.
You forgot the peak ginyu force in the tournament of power
The Vageta what if where he overcomes Bobbidi's control should have lead into an alternate Battle of gods where Vegeta is the one granted the Super Saiyan God transformation and fought Beerus.
Actually everytime trunks travels through time he isn’t directly going back in time but he’s traveling to a different timeline as a whole. So technically it’s possible trunks shows up no matter what
The video is fine, but if I were you I would tone down on how animated your character is, mostly because with the way your moving him it can be rather distracting. it might be for the best to slow down the bobbing of your character or get more frames to use and swap between them more often and cut out the bobbing. Other then that I did enjoy the video and I am a fan of how you implemented personal anecdotes about your experiences with some of the fights (e.g. almost failing the Piccolo fight.) adds a personal flair to it.
Appreciate it! Yeah I heard people talk about the character movement and fix that going forward.