Extremely refreshing to hear from someone with intelligence and knowledge that can offer something that is divorced from the usual media & political hysterics. I have read several of Mr Beevor's books, and although I have not always agreed with some of his observations, he is streets ahead of the usual commentators. I am also certain he saw this conflict coming some time ago. This is an astute interview with a wisdom rich historian who has some accurate & valid information to share here.
@@flyingisaac2186The name of the person that made that comment indicates that they are Portuguese. So not a bot, just not a native English speaker. [Coimbra is a University town in Central Portugal].
A pleasure to listen to. No gimmicks to corner the other side, no egos or self-promotion. Just calm but engaging discussion based on merit. A bit worrying though but I guess it's better to know the truth and think what we can do with it rather than deny it and pray for rain.
Very true. That leads to populistic moronic slogans like "Two world wars and one world cup doo dah." 🏴🏴 The German national football team has gone a bit off the boil recently, admittedly, but Germany has lost count of the number of world cups it's won. France 🇫🇷 and Les Bleus won in 1998 and 2018. They lost the final on penalties even after Mbappe's incredible hat trick. Two world wars and two world cups.....France 😂🤣😅😆 Four (?) World cups and NO world wars doo dah ...Germany 🇩🇪🇩🇪😂🤣😅😆😁
Those British films they keep alluding to presumably- The Great Escape, The Dambusters and Reach for the Sky were all adapted from books written by an Australian, Paul Brickhill.
I have great concern for the marginalisation of the teaching of history in Irish educational system more in favour of STEM subjects. Similar emphasis shift is probably happening across Europe. Any society needs a repository of history and people to teach it and detect and challenge lies and half-truths which will arise to justify evil actions carried out by states and factions to their own ends.
Anthony Beevor is a very balanced and grounded historian. His knowledge of WW2 is vast and encyclopaedic. The little shill from the Torygraph on the other hand, sounds like a six year old.
I could listen to Antony Beevor for hours. Have all his books, he is a treasure. So much knowledge, great memory, ability to link the past with present time - not every historian is willing to do so.
But I find him very biased... By a peculiar type of Russophobia not born from Soviet occupation or oppression that other Europeans have experienced. That channel NEVER mentions Ukrainian Banderites' holocausts on 100,000 Poles in Volyn, banning of Hungarian and Russian languages in Ukraine or their murders and the US-orchestrated coup in 2014, training of Ukranian neo-nasties although the BBC itself featured these things in its own documentaries seven years ago. Bias, lies of omission, prejudice and erhnic phobia do not make a historian great.
Superior intellects. That conflict has been going on for 10 years. Too many of our superior intellects don't seem to want to talk about the first 8 years. Its a pity that more people don't look into why that is.
@@jackspring7709 "Too many of our superior intellects don't seem to want to talk about the first 8 years" Prigozhin explained the entire conflict before being assassinated. Ukraine is being invaded to enrich the oligarchs and give Shoigu some bogus claim to military glory. The reasons for ruSSia's invasion is just as simple as that - greed and hubris.
Steven Edginton was the chief digital strategist for "Leave Means Leave," the pro-Brexit, Eurosceptic political pressure group that campaigned and lobbied for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union following the 'Leave' result of the EU referendum on 23 June 2016. Leave Means Leave was chaired by British property entrepreneur Richard Tice and business consultant John Longworth. The vice-chairman was leader of the Brexit Party, Nigel Farage. Anthony Beevor is the only superior intellect in this video.
Why? All he does is human interest stories with no analysis, he's a light weight popular historian, not a researcher, not an original thinker, not an expert on Russia.
I had to share this on FaceBook...I only expect a few people to listen to a historian where the interview is more than 5 minutes but I think that it is well worth listening to the whole interview. It might be an interesting challenge to see if any of my 'friends' actually take the trouble to listen to the whole interview and comment on it. I loved it and learnt quite a bit.
Yes, it is worth listening to, but I fear my friends can't be bothered if I was to share. Love them dearly, but in-depth politics or history unfortunately loses to gossip on the royals or Tyler Swift. I was lucky, I had an amazing history teacher. Kudos to the teachers that teach in an atmosphere of STEM subjects only.
I used to chat with a French Historian and Author Anton Joly whom is an expert on Battle of Stalingrad. I asked him about Antony Beevor's book on Stalingrad as I personally enjoyed it and he told me it was so bad it could almost be considered fan fiction. He said Beevor was worthless academically and purely pop history. Which is probably true but his books are so interesting and easy to read it makes WW2 much more accessible to the masses.
I've heard that he was called by the troops "Mark-Time Clark" as he would advance to a pre-determined position and not use initiative and take further advantage of the situation if it was available.
It is very encouraging to hear a genuine expert speak. There are so many, and many on UA-cam, that are absolutely hopeless. I have read several of Beevor's books and he is a preeminent historian and conflict analyst.
I am German and I can listen to Mr Beevor for hours.. Probably the british historian with the best knowledge in his field! Thanks for sharing the video!
Fascinating. I concur with a lot of Mr Beevor’s points, especially context which is often forgotten about in contemporary points-of-view on World War 2 in particular.
Steven Edginton has certainly gone a long way towards redressing the paucity of his historical studies! A remarkably well prepared interview with a pretty magisterial command of the subject matter. Well done, and looking forward to more!
GREAT INTERVIEW, GOOD LISTNING, POLITE AND VERY PROFFESIONAL, ITS SO GOOD TO SEE A YOUNG PERSON WITH MANNERS, = READ MANY BOOKS AND LEARN CONTEXT FROM WORLD HISTORY.
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I loved reading Mr. Beevor's work. He is one of the great historians of all time. We are fortunate to have such a distinguished scholar at this difficult time.
As an American in defence of the quality UK generals, I would point out the UK infantry was not in a position to take casualties like American infantry. The regiment system meant that replacements had to be from their regiment. Also, years of war meant the UK was tapped out. Patton's brutal aggression could not have been applied in the UK forces the same way.
Neither the British nor American Generals or Russins for that matter were particularly fantastic compared to the Germans. Primarily the Allies won because of their overwhelmeing numerical and material superiority and the Germans lost in spite of their Generals for the same reason.
As a Canadian, my forebears would be appalled to hear their sacrifices ignored by both the USA and UK versions of the war. This interview was SO brit-centric.
I agree - a British Knight of the Realm, interviewed by a British Journalist from a British Newspaper...had these been American, I doubt they would even have mentioned Canada In my experience, your forebears' sacrifices are not ignored or played down in the UK, quite the opposite, it's just they are not relevant in this particular interview context....@@mcbrider53
I dear say, the Russian is not one to learn from listening or even reading. Their oriental streak pulls them towards poetry, in the literature field, and towards bloodshed, when they disagree with someone. They are terribly fond of learning by doing...Meaning they learn whenever they get a bloody nose.
Putin does not accept the concept of national sovereignty of the Ukrainians. Putin says, in his article published ont he Kremlin website on 12 July 2021, that the Russians and the Ukrainians are "one people -- a unity". Putin also asserts in the same article that Ukraine belongs to Russia.
Props to the interviewer for asking a couple of questions of his own personal interest at around the 19:30 mark. Beevor's answer about the Whites went into many of the same things I've been talking about to people for years. Especially the Whites' lack of foresight and unanimity to ally the Poles, Finns and Estonians was a major blunder that probably cost them the war against the Bolsheviks.
As someone not far off his eighties I have never heard just how our - the UK's- different views and understanding of our history has completely changed over my lifetime so clearly expressed. Intelligence shared, nothing better.
Up to 20:20 very interesting ...and then started to become boring so I stopped listening . I think Antony Beevor's book about the 'Russian' civil war ( a lot of it happened in Ukraine) sounds well worth reading. I am pleased he was able to have access to Ukrainian archives.
@@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv What? a) I'm using tis account all the time b) Antony Beevor is mi favourite military history books writer - my first book that I read in English was his Spanish Civil War (at the time it wasn't available in Polish) c) what's your point?
Fascinating interview with a great historian who I may not always agree with but I do respect. People sometimes say ‘oh why bother with WW2 we already know all there is to know about it’. But they are wrong there are huge amounts of information in archives around the world that could change our view on the subject. In just Moscow the Russians have lots of information on not just the Soviet side of WW2 but also on the German and East European people, actions and events pre, during and post WW2. It’s the same for the Cold War period there is so much we don’t know and in some areas probably will never know. Re Churchill I agree with Antony Beevor I’ve always seen him as a 19th century man living in the mid 20th century. He had the Imperialist, upper class views of his upbringing. That came through with his attitude to India and the other colonies and at home when he said if Labour won the 45 election they would bring in some form of Gestapo. This after spending much of the war working with Clement Attlee and other Labour politicians who had worked tirelessly to run things in Britain during the war.
What I would have liked to ask was his take on why the US and Britain allowed Stalin to keep so much of Eastern Europe at the end of World War II, because this is, I think, the source of all our present geopolitical woes. Especially with the ultimate bargaining chip of the nuclear bomb in hand at the time.
churchhill told roosevelt about stalins real plans and the president went behind his back and done a deal with stalin at the yalta conference and let the russians take berlin Patton and montgomery saw this as a huge mistake but was pulled back by roosevelt and told to stay on the west side of the elbe river the russian army was way bigger at the end of the european war may 45 the plan was for the russians to attack japan through mongolia whithin three months of the end of the european war and trap the japanese in a huge pincer movement and save american lives in an invasion of mainland japan...it was a very complicated time and the russians were seen as allies at that time who had lost twenty million people in the german russian war
Truman should have listened to Patton. He knew what to do, but was obviously held back by a weary General staff and tired American public that just wanted to end it and get out.
They 'allowed' the Russians to dominate eastern Europe because they had little choice, the Russians were in possession of the ground and neither the UK (which was bankrupt) nor the USA (who felt they'd sacrificed enough) were willing to take on the USSR. In addition, many in both countries already understood the sacrifices made by the Red Army and would have been difficult to convince of the justice of another war. Finally, Stalin had convinced Roosevelt and Truman in his turn that he ( Stalin) was a reasonable man with whom they 'could do business.' Both recognised that the USSR would be the dominant power in Europe. BTW, the agreements on 'spheres of influence' had been decided before the atomic bombs had been dropped on Japan; in fact Roosevelt persuaded Stalin to enter the war against Japan because he did not understand just how destructive atomic weapons would prove to be.
Strange; the Royal Navy (rightfully) gets mentioned and patted on the back, but apart from the bombing campaigns later in the war, the RAF is ignored. What about "so many oweing so much to so few"?
I do think Bomber command, who took such severe losses got badly judged by the later revisionists. Avoid war at all costs, but it only works on 'beast' mode, and being severe may have reduced the Axis war effort despite the scatter-gun approach to collateral damage.
@@CROSSofIRON-uk I'm sorry to disagree here : Bomber Harris, no doubt rubberstamped by a war-weary Prime Minister, has much to answer for in bombing Dresden at such a late stage in the war. The human loss involved as much as the countless buildings of architectural merit it destroyed was totally unnecessary. Even Hitler did not allow the Luftwaffe to bomb Oxford and Cambridge.
Yes Beevor failed to drive home the vast resources Germany had to commit to fight the battle of the Atlantic and defend the Reich from bombing by the RAF
@@CROSSofIRON-uk Also, per Beever in this talk, the bombing campaign meant AA weapons were taken away from the eastern front thereby helping Stalin because AA guns could be used against tanks.
Finally someone who calls out Putin and says that if anybody should own the other, Ukraine should own Russia because that’s where Russia got its start! I’ve been waiting for some commentator to point that out! Slava Ukraini!
I appreciate such interesting conversations--- studded with facts and data. We, Lithuanians , escaped the USSR in 1990 . Later other subjugated nations followed suit. If we hadn't joined the NATO in 2004 ---Orcs would have assaulted us , East Baltic states .
At last an English person who undersatands Russia and Ukraine and the absurd of everything that Pootin is saying, not to mention the sheer evil of the Russians
I read all Beevor’s books, some multiple times. So it was greatly rewarding to hear him talking, the way he carries himself, formulates his thoughts. He certainly is at least as good a speaker as he is a writer.
Monologue of Putin, I like it. As dialogue indicates two people are chatting but Putin basically took Tucker under verbalised hostage. Then tortured him on camera, there was one point where Tucker didn't know what was going on. We lost all logic and reason when Tucker asked him about what about killer AI from the future, then Putin not seeing the joke went on another serious rant on the data for that possibility. My soul died listening to Putin.
@@Wolf-hh4rv No he's not. He's a very good journalist who knows how to present the picture he wants. He is a master manipulator using 90% truth mixed in with his own views. He is, atbthis time, however probably the most truthful major reporter. Check out his interview with Brett Weinstein.
Britain’s defining contribution to ultimate victory was its standing alone and winning the Battle of Britain - by the skin of its teeth. And equally Britain’s long fought - and costly in lives and shipping losses - victory in the Battle of the Atlantic by breaking the German blockade which otherwise would have starved and frozen Britain into submission. Churchill said that the one thing which caused him sleepless nights was losing the Battle of the Atlantic.
I disagree with Beevor, Stalin did not recognise the allied bombing of Germany as a second front. Stalin was vocal in asking for a second front as soon as possible, and in that he expected nothing less than an allied army landing on the European continent. He repeatedly voiced frustration over this being delayed. The bombing campaign certainly was a second front, in 1944 there were 7500 88mm anti-aircraft guns defending the Reich. Russia’s fleet of T34s would have made no progress against that number of anti-tank guns. I also felt his apportioning of the contribution of Britain to victory in WW2 was not clearly articulated. Britain’s role was the supremacy of the Royal Navy, the offensive power of the RAF and the Enigma code breaking. We must not forget that Germany’s planned Kursk offensive in 1943 , was identified and the information passed on to Stalin directly. This played a big role in Russia concentrating their forces in the Kursk salient.
Well the US had to build up to a second front regardless of how impatient Stalin was. Plus to soften the under belly of the axis first in Africa and then Italy. Our military was really in shambles by the time we were attacked on dec 7th. Stalin failed to listen to his own people, telling him that germany was going to attack. His own spies knew the exact day and he refused to listen thinking it was absurd for germany to break their Molotov- Ribbentrop pact of nonagression. Stalin received a ton of US lend-lease to hold off the eastern front - 400,000 jeeps & trucks 14,000 airplanes 8,000 tractors 13,000 tanks We were fighting two fronts don't forget one in Europe and one in the Asian pacific simultaneously.
Yes true Stalin was frustrated to the point he stormed out of a meeting with Churchill in Moscow calling the British cowards. It was Churchill who famously got Stalin’s attention by showing him the Linderman terror bombing campaign plans as a compromise (infamously known for deliberating targeting the working class areas of Hamburg because people lived close together in small apartments so they could kill more people with less bombs)
It's not Stalin's ignorance what resulted in Russian problems at the beginning of German invasion. He was about to attack Germany and occupy the whole Europe but Hitler outsmarted Stalin. Read the book "Icebreaker" which provides facts and documents proving this scenario.
21:03 "to defeat Denikin coming up from the South". Disappointing to see that he does NOT mention the contribution of the Black Army in this events, and the fact that perhaps the Bolsheviks gave Donetsk and Lugansk to the young Ukrainian Soviet Republic, as a gift for that contribution in defeating Denikin. Antony Beevor is speaking, ( to make a comparison ), as in Spanish Civil War, and the Ebro Battle of 1938, the Catalan influence, or the International Brigades were NOT part of the conflict..
He is lying all the way. WWII became possible since Munich agreement and support plus appeasement of mustached Austrian artist from European leaders. He also forgot to mention members of royal family sympathizing to nut zees.
I was a trifle dismayed that he didn't mention that while the USA might have been the best ally to have, it was also by far the most expensive. We finished the war after 6 years a bankrupt nation, whereas the USA was the richest in history. Indeed, it took over 50 years for us to pay them back for their assistance. Why didn't Norway, The Netherlands, Poland, France etc., pay us for helping to free them?
Hi great interview. Thanks for sharing. My observation is that I see a parallel between Putin’s history essay and the monologue in the Tucker C interview showing his pervererted view of history, and Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Both Mein Kampf and Putin’s essay are ideological pamphlets. Both distort history. Both try to justify expansion by force. Both ascribe to their nation (their people) a quasi holy destiny. Both form the basis of how history is thought in schools. Both require enthousiastic acceptance, and dissent is criminalized. And both are being executed as the screenplay of a bloody war. History repeats itself.
This reminds me of Mad Magazine's 'Spy versus Spy' as the discussion demonstrates that world affairs seemingly constitutes myth versus myth. The greatest military weapon is deception, but one has to keep in mind that self-deception is perhaps more common - Germany's "stab in the back' being perhaps one of the best examples of an incorrect perception of events that led to an absolute disaster for humanity.
@@seanmoran2743 that's not what I said. Russia is the aggressor here. They started this conflict and if they do take Ukraine, like all dictators they will not stop and he already made it abundantly clear he wants to annex all former Russian/Soviet territories
Population of Russia: 150 million. Population Nato countries: 958 million. GDP Russia: $1.8 trillion. GDP Nato countries: $49 trillion. Sure, Putin could nuke us all, but in any conventionally-fought war Russia would be defeated in a matter of months.
Extremely refreshing to hear from someone with intelligence and knowledge that can offer something that is divorced from the usual media & political hysterics. I have read several of Mr Beevor's books, and although I have not always agreed with some of his observations, he is streets ahead of the usual commentators. I am also certain he saw this conflict coming some time ago.
This is an astute interview with a wisdom rich historian who has some accurate & valid information to share here.
“Streets ahead?” What a bizarre phrase to use.
@@coimbralawNot to a native English speaker.
@@trojanthedogYup busted!
@@coimbralaw worry about stuff in your native Moscow/St Petes bot.
@@flyingisaac2186The name of the person that made that comment indicates that they are Portuguese. So not a bot, just not a native English speaker. [Coimbra is a University town in Central Portugal].
Plain intelligent conversation just never loses it's relevance. I truly appreciate a competent interviewer as well as the subject.
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A pleasure to listen to. No gimmicks to corner the other side, no egos or self-promotion. Just calm but engaging discussion based on merit. A bit worrying though but I guess it's better to know the truth and think what we can do with it rather than deny it and pray for rain.
Absolutely right. Greetings from Lithuania, Kaunas.
@@adamdejardinier356 A prayer for rain in this neck of the woods, Adam, has connotations of the tautological! 😅
Russias win this conflict . It’s just math . Known for quite awhile. Enough of narrative driven politics
Excellent interview! It terrifies me how little we teach of history and how little the general populace knows and understands about history!
Very true. That leads to populistic moronic slogans like "Two world wars and one world cup doo dah." 🏴🏴
The German national football team has gone a bit off the boil recently, admittedly, but Germany has lost count of the number of world cups it's won. France 🇫🇷 and Les Bleus won in 1998 and 2018. They lost the final on penalties even after Mbappe's incredible hat trick.
Two world wars and two world cups.....France 😂🤣😅😆
Four (?) World cups and NO world wars doo dah ...Germany 🇩🇪🇩🇪😂🤣😅😆😁
Those British films they keep alluding to presumably- The Great Escape, The Dambusters and Reach for the Sky were all adapted from books written by an Australian, Paul Brickhill.
Especially in the USA
I have great concern for the marginalisation of the teaching of history in Irish educational system more in favour of STEM subjects. Similar emphasis shift is probably happening across Europe. Any society needs a repository of history and people to teach it and detect and challenge lies and half-truths which will arise to justify evil actions carried out by states and factions to their own ends.
The populace knows just as much as it always did this is just an old man shouting at clouds.
Excellent...Antony Beevor must be the best Military Historian we have in England. Such an inspiration to listen to him. Thanku.
Ajp taylor far better
I don't know if he is the best. But, he is great!
Don't forget Max Hastings
Too bad the interviewer couldn't care less about what the empire contributed. Very English-centric. Beevor is just fine.
@@pauldoree3967 his book is ordinary
I could listen to Sir Anthony all day. I've got most of his books and read Stalingrad twice. Excellent... More please
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no need to try trollie, we all know how it works. So find yourself another hobby.@@ttrons2
Anthony Beevor is a very balanced and grounded historian. His knowledge of WW2 is vast and encyclopaedic.
The little shill from the Torygraph on the other hand, sounds like a six year old.
yes definately not an intellectual lightweight and Russian apologist like Emil Cosman.
All of the audiobooks are available here on YT now, they're amazing to sleep to every night.
I could listen to Antony Beevor for hours. Have all his books, he is a treasure. So much knowledge, great memory, ability to link the past with present time - not every historian is willing to do so.
But I find him very biased... By a peculiar type of Russophobia not born from Soviet occupation or oppression that other Europeans have experienced. That channel NEVER mentions Ukrainian Banderites' holocausts on 100,000 Poles in Volyn, banning of Hungarian and Russian languages in Ukraine or their murders and the US-orchestrated coup in 2014, training of Ukranian neo-nasties although the BBC itself featured these things in its own documentaries seven years ago. Bias, lies of omission, prejudice and erhnic phobia do not make a historian great.
I’m reading Berlin again for the umpteenth time. Tremendous writing
How can something be so interesting and so depressing at the same time.
It's Russia. Depressing and interesting is what they do.
@@pjl8119 Touché ! 😂
@@pjl8119Depressing yes.
Nicely put Evanmurphy24783
Yes, the NATO proxy war is a brutal failure.
We need more historians
Yes. More Historians. Fewer PROPAGANDA MERCHANTS
Mark Felton, Kings and Generals, Epic History, History OverSimplified and more...... check them all out.
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Oh ... I have..
Try @Savage Sage 😆
Especially ones like this who understand how to relate to it and not wield it as a weapon to try to prove a viewpoint.
I could listen to these two superior intellects all day ! Gracias, The Telegraph.
Superior intellects. That conflict has been going on for 10 years. Too many of our superior intellects don't seem to want to talk about the first 8 years. Its a pity that more people don't look into why that is.
@@jackspring7709 "Too many of our superior intellects don't seem to want to talk about the first 8 years"
Prigozhin explained the entire conflict before being assassinated. Ukraine is being invaded to enrich the oligarchs and give Shoigu some bogus claim to military glory.
The reasons for ruSSia's invasion is just as simple as that - greed and hubris.
Steven Edginton was the chief digital strategist for "Leave Means Leave," the pro-Brexit, Eurosceptic political pressure group that campaigned and lobbied for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union following the 'Leave' result of the EU referendum on 23 June 2016. Leave Means Leave was chaired by British property entrepreneur Richard Tice and business consultant John Longworth. The vice-chairman was leader of the Brexit Party, Nigel Farage.
Anthony Beevor is the only superior intellect in this video.
@boxlabs whats so funny? Your stupidity?
@@sakttan - Steve Edgington did all that? Then he sounds like my kind of man.
Sir Antony Beevor what a great perspective/knowledge of history!
What an absolutely splendid interview! Bravo to both participants 👏
@VladPutin88 MAGA Troll
Anthony Beevor is atreasure trove of historical information. Thanks for an outstanding interview,
Antony not Anthony.
A really good interview, more if this please.
I agree. Very engaging and interesting. In fact, I applauded certain at moments.
A lot better than interviews with the legion of 'BAMPOTS,' on UA-cam who seem to think Putin is The Savior of The World.
I have read all of Beevor’s books… extraordinarily talented writer and historian. I have enormous respect for any views he has.
Why? All he does is human interest stories with no analysis, he's a light weight popular historian, not a researcher, not an original thinker, not an expert on Russia.
@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 Didn’t think so…🤣
fjdkfodpjaknefnviiekenjkenknikeiiwudidfj (= a transcription of your brain)@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311
Great Antony,thankyou for your insight,again.
What a brilliant interview. History is very important and not least in helping to shape the future. I do hope our leaders watch this.
There is a gap in American education: it is History. 😮
Those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it.
@@cindymaceda2999 American education has more gaps than history.
This is Putin's seventh time attacking another country, our politicians are wishful thinkers, and minions of the rich, mostly!
I had to share this on FaceBook...I only expect a few people to listen to a historian where the interview is more than 5 minutes but I think that it is well worth listening to the whole interview. It might be an interesting challenge to see if any of my 'friends' actually take the trouble to listen to the whole interview and comment on it. I loved it and learnt quite a bit.
Yes, it is worth listening to, but I fear my friends can't be bothered if I was to share. Love them dearly, but in-depth politics or history unfortunately loses to gossip on the royals or Tyler Swift. I was lucky, I had an amazing history teacher. Kudos to the teachers that teach in an atmosphere of STEM subjects only.
Brilliant. This is the level of understanding and reason we should all strive to achieve.
I did the same, with the same expectation
I love it when he mentioned Kievan Rus
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Me too. I'm a woman and came up in a froth when it was mentioned.
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Like a frothy tart...??? 🤔😏
EDIT: I listened to this twice and never once heard the term Kyivan Rusj. At what minute was that please?
@@heycidskyja4668what kind of froth? Ovulation?
It was a pleasure listening to this discussion…👍
Such a fascinating man and a legendary historian. A respectful young journalist interviewing Sir Antony as well.
What a wonderful debate. So rare to see people debate the issue and not the man. Well done.
I'm glad Antony is doing well. I have almost every book he's ever written. My favorite historian.
I used to chat with a French Historian and Author Anton Joly whom is an expert on Battle of Stalingrad. I asked him about Antony Beevor's book on Stalingrad as I personally enjoyed it and he told me it was so bad it could almost be considered fan fiction. He said Beevor was worthless academically and purely pop history. Which is probably true but his books are so interesting and easy to read it makes WW2 much more accessible to the masses.
Why is Joly better than Beevor
What an extraordinary interview...
I'll be back and get notes.
Really extraordinary historian
Thanks
Thanks
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Fantastic interview and conversation. Truly appreciate it and would like to see more from knowledgeable individuals like Mr Beevor
Beevor is one of the best historians we have.
Erudite and urbane in the extreme…
Agreed, and his books are filled with facts and are highly highly informative. The man is a national treasure
LOL he's a lightweight who writes popular history books
@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 ….Your first language isn’t even English.
@@seamusweber8298Highly selective facts
an hour well spent. And I never knew of Marcus Aurelius Clarkus; nickname, which is perfect. Thanks Sir Anthony.
I've heard that he was called by the troops "Mark-Time Clark" as he would advance to a pre-determined position and not use initiative and take further advantage of the situation if it was available.
Young people who don’t know history will be doomed to repeat it. Oh how I wish I could be there to see it.
It is very encouraging to hear a genuine expert speak. There are so many, and many on UA-cam, that are absolutely hopeless. I have read several of Beevor's books and he is a preeminent historian and conflict analyst.
Enjoyed that.
Utterly brilliant ❤
A privilege listening to your interview with Mr Beavers ❤
(Beevor)
Such a clear thinking man, incredible to listen to, even better to read.
Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - George Santayana
Everybody forget, everything repeat,lots of lies,endlessly.....
"The only thing we learn from history is that nobody learns from history".
@@randylahey1822 Yes, Warren Buffett said it best.
Great interviewer really good lines of questions. Thanks
I am German and I can listen to Mr Beevor for hours.. Probably the british historian with the best knowledge in his field! Thanks for sharing the video!
Great interview expected no less from Beevor.
Kudos. An excellent interview.
Fascinating. I concur with a lot of Mr Beevor’s points, especially context which is often forgotten about in contemporary points-of-view on World War 2 in particular.
Steven Edginton has certainly gone a long way towards redressing the paucity of his historical studies! A remarkably well prepared interview with a pretty magisterial command of the subject matter. Well done, and looking forward to more!
Indeed. Indeed!
Great talk. Thanks
GREAT INTERVIEW, GOOD LISTNING, POLITE AND VERY PROFFESIONAL,
ITS SO GOOD TO SEE A YOUNG PERSON WITH MANNERS,
= READ MANY BOOKS AND LEARN CONTEXT FROM WORLD HISTORY.
I loved reading Mr. Beevor's work. He is one of the great historians of all time. We are fortunate to have such a distinguished scholar at this difficult time.
Great discussion - need more of these eminent historians and less social media grifters.
Brilliant. Great job both. Important interview.
"The only thing we learn from history is that nobody learns from history".
His grandmother was a correspondent in italy! Anecdotal and pertinent, factual at the same time!!!!!
Mr.Beevor is a history GOAT (tied with Kotkin).
Both of them are antidote to the moronic pro-Putin Meerscheimer.
There are others at his tier. Margaret McMillan, Richard Frank.
A. J. P. Taylor anyone?
But who in the next generation will take up their mantel???😢
He’s a lightweight
Absolutely magisterial
As an American in defence of the quality UK generals, I would point out the UK infantry was not in a position to take casualties like American infantry. The regiment system meant that replacements had to be from their regiment. Also, years of war meant the UK was tapped out. Patton's brutal aggression could not have been applied in the UK forces the same way.
Neither the British nor American Generals or Russins for that matter were particularly fantastic compared to the Germans. Primarily the Allies won because of their overwhelmeing numerical and material superiority and the Germans lost in spite of their Generals for the same reason.
@@petercollingwood522John Ellis "Brute Force" about this exact subject.
As a Canadian, my forebears would be appalled to hear their sacrifices ignored by both the USA and UK versions of the war. This interview was SO brit-centric.
I agree - a British Knight of the Realm, interviewed by a British Journalist from a British Newspaper...had these been American, I doubt they would even have mentioned Canada In my experience, your forebears' sacrifices are not ignored or played down in the UK, quite the opposite, it's just they are not relevant in this particular interview context....@@mcbrider53
@@petercollingwood522no
An absolutely splendid conversation. I listened in awe and with sheer delight. Pure luxury!
Very interesting, too bad the whole world will not hear his lessons. The russians would be in great need of that ....
Russians understand history better than any European
I dear say, the Russian is not one to learn from listening or even reading. Their oriental streak pulls them towards poetry, in the literature field, and towards bloodshed, when they disagree with someone. They are terribly fond of learning by doing...Meaning they learn whenever they get a bloody nose.
Great author...I love your books Antony. Some of the best historical and war related books I've ever read. Dynamic and hard to out down.
Two Off Script interviews in as many days! What a treat.
Putin does not accept the concept of national sovereignty of the Ukrainians. Putin says, in his article published ont he Kremlin website on 12 July 2021, that the Russians and the Ukrainians are "one people -- a unity". Putin also asserts in the same article that Ukraine belongs to Russia.
We need more historians AND better history curriculum here in the free world.
Top notch interview and video. Extremely important! Thanks a lot
Props to the interviewer for asking a couple of questions of his own personal interest at around the 19:30 mark. Beevor's answer about the Whites went into many of the same things I've been talking about to people for years. Especially the Whites' lack of foresight and unanimity to ally the Poles, Finns and Estonians was a major blunder that probably cost them the war against the Bolsheviks.
As someone not far off his eighties I have never heard just how our - the UK's- different views and understanding of our history has completely changed over my lifetime so clearly expressed. Intelligence shared, nothing better.
One of my favorite authors.
Excellent interview, I watched it twice!
Up to 20:20 very interesting ...and then started to become boring so I stopped listening . I think Antony Beevor's book about the 'Russian' civil war ( a lot of it happened in Ukraine) sounds well worth reading. I am pleased he was able to have access to Ukrainian archives.
The book is a bit dense, doesn't cover Trotskys' train wars the way I hoped.
Great interview. Thanks for that.
My favourite military books author ❤
@@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv What? a) I'm using tis account all the time b) Antony Beevor is mi favourite military history books writer - my first book that I read in English was his Spanish Civil War (at the time it wasn't available in Polish) c) what's your point?
@@techalgia the account has 5 comments in total, for a 12yo account, they must have been epic. 😅
I'm a bot honest @@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv
Very detailed and interesting history of Battle of the Bulge
Antony Bevoor is the best! Great interview, too.
Fascinating interview with a great historian who I may not always agree with but I do respect.
People sometimes say ‘oh why bother with WW2 we already know all there is to know about it’.
But they are wrong there are huge amounts of information in archives around the world that could change our view on the subject.
In just Moscow the Russians have lots of information on not just the Soviet side of WW2 but also on the German and East European people, actions and events pre, during and post WW2.
It’s the same for the Cold War period there is so much we don’t know and in some areas probably will never know.
Re Churchill I agree with Antony Beevor I’ve always seen him as a 19th century man living in the mid 20th century. He had the Imperialist, upper class views of his upbringing.
That came through with his attitude to India and the other colonies and at home when he said if Labour won the 45 election they would bring in some form of Gestapo. This after spending much of the war working with Clement Attlee and other Labour politicians who had worked tirelessly to run things in Britain during the war.
Putin has formed strong alliances with China and India offsetting NATO completely. That’s pretty smart. And we should be concerned.
What I would have liked to ask was his take on why the US and Britain allowed Stalin to keep so much of Eastern Europe at the end of World War II, because this is, I think, the source of all our present geopolitical woes. Especially with the ultimate bargaining chip of the nuclear bomb in hand at the time.
because your perspective on history is warped by 70 year old propaganda
churchhill told roosevelt about stalins real plans and the president went behind his back and done a deal with stalin at the yalta conference and let the russians take berlin Patton and montgomery saw this as a huge mistake but was pulled back by roosevelt and told to stay on the west side of the elbe river the russian army was way bigger at the end of the european war may 45 the plan was for the russians to attack japan through mongolia whithin three months of the end of the european war and trap the japanese in a huge pincer movement and save american lives in an invasion of mainland japan...it was a very complicated time and the russians were seen as allies at that time who had lost twenty million people in the german russian war
Truman should have listened to Patton. He knew what to do, but was obviously held back by a weary General staff and tired American public that just wanted to end it and get out.
27 million Russians who died for your freedom perhaps
They 'allowed' the Russians to dominate eastern Europe because they had little choice, the Russians were in possession of the ground and neither the UK (which was bankrupt) nor the USA (who felt they'd sacrificed enough) were willing to take on the USSR. In addition, many in both countries already understood the sacrifices made by the Red Army and would have been difficult to convince of the justice of another war. Finally, Stalin had convinced Roosevelt and Truman in his turn that he ( Stalin) was a reasonable man with whom they 'could do business.' Both recognised that the USSR would be the dominant power in Europe.
BTW, the agreements on 'spheres of influence' had been decided before the atomic bombs had been dropped on Japan; in fact Roosevelt persuaded Stalin to enter the war against Japan because he did not understand just how destructive atomic weapons would prove to be.
Yes!, we needed Beevor to comment on the latest ruski mess, brilliant idea to bring him on.
It was the Poles actually who made the first great strides against Enigma
Personally I think the greatest contribution by Britain to the second world war was its intelligence and code breaking to support the armed forces. 😊
😮 educating information
Very good interview. We want more!
Loved this interview tks
What a fabulous Historian Anthony Beevor is. Greta interview!
Strange; the Royal Navy (rightfully) gets mentioned and patted on the back, but apart from the bombing campaigns later in the war, the RAF is ignored. What about "so many oweing so much to so few"?
I do think Bomber command, who took such severe losses got badly judged by the later revisionists.
Avoid war at all costs, but it only works on 'beast' mode, and being severe may have reduced the Axis war effort despite the scatter-gun approach to collateral damage.
@@CROSSofIRON-uk I'm sorry to disagree here : Bomber Harris, no doubt rubberstamped by a war-weary Prime Minister, has much to answer for in bombing Dresden at such a late stage in the war. The human loss involved as much as the countless buildings of architectural merit it destroyed was totally unnecessary. Even Hitler did not allow the Luftwaffe to bomb Oxford and Cambridge.
Yes Beevor failed to drive home the vast resources Germany had to commit to fight the battle of the Atlantic and defend the Reich from bombing by the RAF
I think that was implied in the context of early resitance to the Germans.
@@CROSSofIRON-uk Also, per Beever in this talk, the bombing campaign meant AA weapons were taken away from the eastern front thereby helping Stalin because AA guns could be used against tanks.
Wow 🤩. So informative and insightful
Excellent.
What an excellent program Mr Beevor is anational treasure what a treat utter joy wonderful
Finally someone who calls out Putin and says that if anybody should own the other, Ukraine should own Russia because that’s where Russia got its start! I’ve been waiting for some commentator to point that out! Slava Ukraini!
Ukrainian appeared on the world map in 1991.
Keep coping Banderite.
That was one great presentation!
Thanks for sharing!
I appreciate such interesting conversations--- studded with facts and data. We, Lithuanians , escaped the USSR in 1990 . Later other subjugated nations followed suit. If we hadn't joined the NATO in 2004 ---Orcs would have assaulted us , East Baltic states .
The Russians ( not all ofcourse) are Mongols...
@@luistilli2328 That's an insult to modern Mongols.
I can not agree more: history must be taught in schools!
At last an English person who undersatands Russia and Ukraine and the absurd of everything that Pootin is saying, not to mention the sheer evil of the Russians
This guy is great! History for historie's sake!
I read all Beevor’s books, some multiple times. So it was greatly rewarding to hear him talking, the way he carries himself, formulates his thoughts. He certainly is at least as good a speaker as he is a writer.
Monologue of Putin, I like it. As dialogue indicates two people are chatting but Putin basically took Tucker under verbalised hostage. Then tortured him on camera, there was one point where Tucker didn't know what was going on. We lost all logic and reason when Tucker asked him about what about killer AI from the future, then Putin not seeing the joke went on another serious rant on the data for that possibility. My soul died listening to Putin.
Tucker Carlson is a total ignoramus. And no I am not a crazy lefty.
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No he's not. He's a very good journalist who knows how to present the picture he wants. He is a master manipulator using 90% truth mixed in with his own views. He is, atbthis time, however probably the most truthful major reporter.
Check out his interview with Brett Weinstein.
Great interview! Wish there was more of this on the net!
Britain’s defining contribution to ultimate victory was its standing alone and winning the Battle of Britain - by the skin of its teeth. And equally Britain’s long fought - and costly in lives and shipping losses - victory in the Battle of the Atlantic by breaking the German blockade which otherwise would have starved and frozen Britain into submission. Churchill said that the one thing which caused him sleepless nights was losing the Battle of the Atlantic.
He’s a international treasure Scholar and a gentleman
I disagree with Beevor, Stalin did not recognise the allied bombing of Germany as a second front. Stalin was vocal in asking for a second front as soon as possible, and in that he expected nothing less than an allied army landing on the European continent. He repeatedly voiced frustration over this being delayed.
The bombing campaign certainly was a second front, in 1944 there were 7500 88mm anti-aircraft guns defending the Reich. Russia’s fleet of T34s would have made no progress against that number of anti-tank guns.
I also felt his apportioning of the contribution of Britain to victory in WW2 was not clearly articulated. Britain’s role was the supremacy of the Royal Navy, the offensive power of the RAF and the Enigma code breaking. We must not forget that Germany’s planned Kursk offensive in 1943 , was identified and the information passed on to Stalin directly. This played a big role in Russia concentrating their forces in the Kursk salient.
Well the US had to build up to a second front regardless of how impatient Stalin was. Plus to soften the under belly of the axis first in Africa and then Italy. Our military was really in shambles by the time we were attacked on dec 7th. Stalin failed to listen to his own people, telling him that germany was going to attack. His own spies knew the exact day and he refused to listen thinking it was absurd for germany to break their Molotov- Ribbentrop pact of nonagression. Stalin received a ton of US lend-lease to hold off the eastern front - 400,000 jeeps & trucks
14,000 airplanes
8,000 tractors
13,000 tanks
We were fighting two fronts don't forget one in Europe and one in the Asian pacific simultaneously.
@@wadestclair249Massive land-lease started only in 1943 after the battles of Stalingrad ans Kursk.
Yes true Stalin was frustrated to the point he stormed out of a meeting with Churchill in Moscow calling the British cowards. It was Churchill who famously got Stalin’s attention by showing him the Linderman terror bombing campaign plans as a compromise (infamously known for deliberating targeting the working class areas of Hamburg because people lived close together in small apartments so they could kill more people with less bombs)
It's not Stalin's ignorance what resulted in Russian problems at the beginning of German invasion. He was about to attack Germany and occupy the whole Europe but Hitler outsmarted Stalin. Read the book "Icebreaker" which provides facts and documents proving this scenario.
@@Nik-jq4tx and how much was supplied in 1941 and 1942?
great man and very fascinating talk
Sir Antony James Beevor quite brilliant, indeed. Fascinating interview.
Fascinating interview!
21:03 "to defeat Denikin coming up from the South". Disappointing to see that he does NOT mention the contribution of the Black Army in this events, and the fact that perhaps the Bolsheviks gave Donetsk and Lugansk to the young Ukrainian Soviet Republic, as a gift for that contribution in defeating Denikin. Antony Beevor is speaking, ( to make a comparison ), as in Spanish Civil War, and the Ebro Battle of 1938, the Catalan influence, or the International Brigades were NOT part of the conflict..
He is lying all the way. WWII became possible since Munich agreement and support plus appeasement of mustached Austrian artist from European leaders. He also forgot to mention members of royal family sympathizing to nut zees.
I was a trifle dismayed that he didn't mention that while the USA might have been the best ally to have, it was also by far the most expensive. We finished the war after 6 years a bankrupt nation, whereas the USA was the richest in history. Indeed, it took over 50 years for us to pay them back for their assistance. Why didn't Norway, The Netherlands, Poland, France etc., pay us for helping to free them?
Hi great interview. Thanks for sharing.
My observation is that I see a parallel between Putin’s history essay and the monologue in the Tucker C interview showing his pervererted view of history, and Hitler’s Mein Kampf.
Both Mein Kampf and Putin’s essay are ideological pamphlets. Both distort history. Both try to justify expansion by force. Both ascribe to their nation (their people) a quasi holy destiny.
Both form the basis of how history is thought in schools.
Both require enthousiastic acceptance, and dissent is criminalized. And both are being executed as the screenplay of a bloody war.
History repeats itself.
Excellent interviewer, great and incisive questions. No fluff.
This reminds me of Mad Magazine's 'Spy versus Spy' as the discussion demonstrates that world affairs seemingly constitutes myth versus myth. The greatest military weapon is deception, but one has to keep in mind that self-deception is perhaps more common - Germany's "stab in the back' being perhaps one of the best examples of an incorrect perception of events that led to an absolute disaster for humanity.
Excellent conversation.
How can people not see the similarities of pre WW2 and the Ukraine War right now?
Yeah we are playing the aggressors part
@@seanmoran2743 that's not what I said. Russia is the aggressor here. They started this conflict and if they do take Ukraine, like all dictators they will not stop and he already made it abundantly clear he wants to annex all former Russian/Soviet territories
Population of Russia: 150 million. Population Nato countries: 958 million. GDP Russia: $1.8 trillion. GDP Nato countries: $49 trillion. Sure, Putin could nuke us all, but in any conventionally-fought war Russia would be defeated in a matter of months.
@@HelmetOfHonor wrong
Putin will not invade any NATO country because then Russia will be at war with all of NATO and he knows Russia would not win.@@HelmetOfHonor