Dear dear Jason! I missed this video somehow and was turned on to it by one of our Facebook fellow followers of your work. I have exactly that Mars Hydro - I researched the heck out of it to find the ideal one - approximately 2 years ago as well as your video age shows. Love this great video.
Thanks for sharing the results, been waiting for a month. :D Nice one, I live the flowers. For sure natural lights are great, but not everywhere, everytime we can enjoy the full light, and mars hydro led grow light the solutions. ;)
Hi Fraser Valley Rose Farm. Hi you are so very helpful, thank you so much. I love miniature Rose's. I know that they like to be in the ground. I would like to keep them inside. Is that possible and if so how? Love the videos.
Hi Lori. In my garden, Fellowship (Livin' Easy I think is the trade name in North America), Julia Child, Sally Holmes, Purple Pavement (If you go for rugosa roses), Delany Sisters, South Africa - it'll vary a bit by your climate and disease pressures.
Thanks for doing this, I found it really interesting. Maybe I missed it, but did you leave the LED light on all the time or were you following some kind of cycle?
Woooooooow Big big and huge thanks..... I’m living in Kuwait so hell in summer very dry cold in winter 😭 and finally I can grow some flowers indoor ,,, but can I use the blue and red led light!?
I love your video! Thank you! I have a small rose (same size as yours) in container that I grown from cutting earlier the summer. I live in zone 5, do you think to late to plant them in the ground? Or should I bring them in my no heat garage?
What an interesting experiment! I would love to try growing a rose inside my apartment. My only concern is the electricity bill. Does it cost a lot of money to use a 1000W lamp?
The wattage is misleading I'm afraid (but it's a good thing for your electricity bill). Most of these LED manufacturers name their lamps something like 1000W as a model number to imply equivalency to some old fashioned lamp. This one use 150W of power. If you're using it to supplement natural light, you may be able to get away with running it for 6-8 hours per day, so roughly 1kWh per day. In my area, its 9 to 14 cents (CAD) per kWh, but check your local rates.
Thanks for doing this! My grow tent is currently filled with other plants, but I'm really excited to try a winter rose. I'm a professional rose caretaker, member of the San Diego Rose Society and volunteer at the Balboa Park Rose Garden in San Diego. Do you think the roses need their winter nap or can they be pushed year-round under artificial conditions? Also, have you tried a longer photoperiod? Say pushing them to 18 hours? Also, I've been releasing natural predators in my tent because they can't fly away and stay hungry and searching for food. That might be a helpful organic idea for some.
Most modern roses have enough China in them that they don't seem to need a winter cold/rest period. I think the old Albas and Centifolias would, but not the modern HTs and Floribundas. Likewise, they don't seem to be sensitive to photoperiod - only to the total amount of light energy provided. But just out of curiosity, with a climate like San Diego you still have pretty reasonable outdoor growing conditions, don't you? With nighttime lows to only around 45F I'd imagine it's just structural pruning at this time of year followed by a quick bounce back into blooming. Color me jealous!
I've just bought a mini rose in bloom and put it under LED lights (I grow orchids instead). Once the rose bush lost the flowers it brought it immediately began growing sprouts (it's winter here in Argentina). So: 1) at least this variety doesn't seem to have dormancy period 2) Lights are a wonderful option! Hugs.
Thank you sooo much for sharing this video! One question: I have gotten some incredibly small band roses just this week, I'm in zone 6b, I'd say these roses look to be about a year old. Should I keep them indoors over the winter under grow lights in my basement? (I have a whole set-up already down there for seed starting.) Or can I plant them outside? I've never planted such small roses outdoors at this time so I'm not sure what would be better for them
Hi Brittany. I wouldn't put them in the garden at that size this late. It's a judgement call between holding them cool but protected or growing them actively (warm, under lights). Each has its pros and cons. With my greenhouses, I usually opt for cool and protected (with just a slight pot-up if I think there's still any rooting time). Growing actively under lights is a decent option too, but it also means troubleshooting for nutrition and pests over the whole winter season.
Very nice. That is quite an expense w/ the light, table, and fan. I don't enjoy keeping up w/ the watering. I am going to spend time enjoying my Cichlid fish, Electric Blue and Rex rabbits for the winter. I did map out a calendar plan for 2020 with my planting a watermelon seed every Wednesday and the (70) day return date for Mini Love. I will have a plan to start earlier in 2020 weather permitting:-)
I need to begin planning my 2020 crops soon as well - I was at the farmers market this weekend, and the vendor beside me was doing very well with watermelon. I haven't done a lot with melons, but you'd recommend Mini Love I take it. The lighting setup was a fun project for me, and I may try a few more things with it over winter - but when February comes, it'll for sure be reallocated to early seed starting.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm This was my 1st yr doing Mini Love. I like how it was a (70) day melon and the taste was good. It was a 2017 AAS winner all-americaselections.org/product/watermelon-mini-love/
I usually incorporate a low rate of controlled-release fertilizer (osmocote or similar) into the potting soil at planting time, and then feed regularly with half-strength liquid fertilizer (Peters 20-20-20 or similar)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm awesome thank you so much, I really appreciate the reply. I believe I overfertilised mine at the beginning since I was using a 24-14-14 and ended up with a ton of leafy growth and buds are just starting to come in weeks later.
Hi Richard. I matched outdoor day length, which was between 15 and 16 hours (August on the 49th parallel) - just because I wanted an even comparison. Right now, I'm only supplementing natural light with 3 hours in the morning (6am to 9am) and 3 in the evening (6pm to 9pm) - still resulting in a 15 hour day length, but roses aren't sensitive to day length anyhow, so you have some flexibility on your setup.
That was a very interesting video. I hope you don't mind but I need to ask you an off topic question. A couple of months ago i planted some coral carpet roses on a sunny steep slope. So steep in fact that I to dig into the slope to make a flat area in which to set the plants and be able to hold in the water. We had a few humid days here this summer. I'm in Ladysmith. Every rose developed powdery mildew. Any ideas or advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks. I've found my roses to be their most susceptible to PM when they're water stressed. Unless the plants are really struggling (like, you're scared they won't survive), I wouldn't worry about it except to check if the soil is holding enough moisture - which is a tough go on a steep slope.
Thank you for your videos! I have rooted cuttings and live in the northeast USA (cold winters) Should I let them continue to grow indoors all winter or plant outside this fall? Thank you!
Jason, is it possible to keep roses in a 100% vegetative state by manipulating the amount of light, kelvin temperature of the light and/or the nutrients?
Hi Shawn. Interesting question. Not in my experience. Let's leave out the once-bloomers (wild species and old garden roses). With the repeat flowering roses, it seems that when there's sufficient temperature and light for strong growth, the rose will successively veg-flower-fruit(hips) and repeat as often as it can. They're not sensitive to daylength. You can slow them or stop flowering with lower light and temps, but that more or less stops vegetative growth as well.
I am curious how long you leave the indoor lights on. Is it 24 hours a day, 12 hours, or 18? And are there tricks to get them to flower at certain times, like cannabis, to switch the light schedule to 12/12?
Unlike cannabis, roses are not daylength sensitive. They care about total light energy, and will flower when they get enough. Whether you offer that in 12 hours or 18 is less important.
I regularly grow roses in unheated rooms, with temperatures nearing freezing. They slow right down and drop many of their leaves at those temperatures - but I guess it depends on how much growth you want over the cool season.
As rosas cultivadas indoor cresceram mais e floresceram primeiro. Nesse caso, essas plantas tiveram duas fontes de luz: a luz da lâmpada + luz das janelas, também houve menor variação de temperatura diurna e noturna se comparada com as plantas outdoor. As exigências nutricionais nos dois casos são diferentes uma da outra, possivelmente se pode reduzir o nitrogênio e aumentar os níveis de P K CA Mg, isso porque a temperatura noturna dentro da casa é maior e isso promove maior respiração e maior gasto energético da planta - por isso apresentou clorose e outros pequenos sintomas foliares de deficiência nutricional.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Hi Jason, Thank you. I am planning to try it for first time. I am living in India and at high temperature climate condition here.
No, not for most modern hybrid roses. There are a few of the older ones (centifolias, albas) that benefit from a cold period, but just about anything you'd buy these days is fine with no rest period.
Hi. How many gallon pots can/did you have under one light? Thinking of overwintering some bands I got this year that are now in 1-2 gallon pots. Also, in zone 5, that would mean abt 6 months indoors. Thanks for any suggestions.
Hi Mehrin. I used this light in a roughly 3x3 area. I think it could depend on what you're trying to accomplish - with a cooler temperature the plants could slow down into semi-dormancy. This is the way I protect my roses over the winter (sheltered but still cool) and it reduces some of the management (light, watering). If you want them in fully active growth, then you need far more light.
It's a composted bark mulch and shredded wood fiber mix. I also sometimes use a baled peat/perlite mix (like Sunshine Mix or ProMix) if I don't want to make a bulk order.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks for the reply! subscribed! :) and pls make a video of your soil recipe so that viewers can get idea of how much to mix :)
Hi I live in Alaska and I live in a house with no garage and I was planning to put them under a grow light can I do that and what will happen to roses please reply thank you
Thanks so much Jason. It really is a challenge to grow anything there. My lavender likes it though. I have to amend the soil every time I plant. Haha!
Beautiful roses, they are grow very quick than i image, ha, it seems like they don't need a tent.
Dear dear Jason! I missed this video somehow and was turned on to it by one of our Facebook fellow followers of your work. I have exactly that Mars Hydro - I researched the heck out of it to find the ideal one - approximately 2 years ago as well as your video age shows. Love this great video.
Aw, thanks Jennie!
Thanks for sharing the results, been waiting for a month. :D Nice one, I live the flowers. For sure natural lights are great, but not everywhere, everytime we can enjoy the full light, and mars hydro led grow light the solutions. ;)
Thanks - the LED lights did a nice job with roses, and I'm looking forward to see how they do with seedlings in spring.
Hi Fraser Valley Rose Farm. Hi you are so very helpful, thank you so much. I love miniature Rose's. I know that they like to be in the ground. I would like to keep them inside. Is that possible and if so how? Love the videos.
Could you recommend a rose that is desese resistant and stays in bloom for a long period of time. Thanks love your video's.
Hi Lori. In my garden, Fellowship (Livin' Easy I think is the trade name in North America), Julia Child, Sally Holmes, Purple Pavement (If you go for rugosa roses), Delany Sisters, South Africa - it'll vary a bit by your climate and disease pressures.
Thanks for doing this, I found it really interesting. Maybe I missed it, but did you leave the LED light on all the time or were you following some kind of cycle?
Thanks. I ran the lights on a cycle equal to the outdoor daylength at the time - 14 hours
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Excellent, then that's what I will try here. Thanks!
Woooooooow Big big and huge thanks..... I’m living in Kuwait so hell in summer very dry cold in winter 😭 and finally I can grow some flowers indoor ,,, but can I use the blue and red led light!?
You can - the full spectrum lights (white in color) are nicer to look at, and also make an overall better plant IMO
I first learned that Mars Hydro TS1000 led can be used to grow roses, so my succulents should be able to use it！
I love your video! Thank you!
I have a small rose (same size as yours) in container that I grown from cutting earlier the summer. I live in zone 5, do you think to late to plant them in the ground? Or should I bring them in my no heat garage?
I usually hold them for at least one winter before going into the ground. I'd favor overwintering in the garage to plant in the landscape next spring.
What an interesting experiment! I would love to try growing a rose inside my apartment. My only concern is the electricity bill. Does it cost a lot of money to use a 1000W lamp?
The wattage is misleading I'm afraid (but it's a good thing for your electricity bill). Most of these LED manufacturers name their lamps something like 1000W as a model number to imply equivalency to some old fashioned lamp. This one use 150W of power. If you're using it to supplement natural light, you may be able to get away with running it for 6-8 hours per day, so roughly 1kWh per day. In my area, its 9 to 14 cents (CAD) per kWh, but check your local rates.
Light schedule?
Feed formula, pH, and e.c.?
Thanks for doing this! My grow tent is currently filled with other plants, but I'm really excited to try a winter rose. I'm a professional rose caretaker, member of the San Diego Rose Society and volunteer at the Balboa Park Rose Garden in San Diego.
Do you think the roses need their winter nap or can they be pushed year-round under artificial conditions? Also, have you tried a longer photoperiod? Say pushing them to 18 hours?
Also, I've been releasing natural predators in my tent because they can't fly away and stay hungry and searching for food. That might be a helpful organic idea for some.
Most modern roses have enough China in them that they don't seem to need a winter cold/rest period. I think the old Albas and Centifolias would, but not the modern HTs and Floribundas. Likewise, they don't seem to be sensitive to photoperiod - only to the total amount of light energy provided. But just out of curiosity, with a climate like San Diego you still have pretty reasonable outdoor growing conditions, don't you? With nighttime lows to only around 45F I'd imagine it's just structural pruning at this time of year followed by a quick bounce back into blooming. Color me jealous!
I've just bought a mini rose in bloom and put it under LED lights (I grow orchids instead). Once the rose bush lost the flowers it brought it immediately began growing sprouts (it's winter here in Argentina). So: 1) at least this variety doesn't seem to have dormancy period 2) Lights are a wonderful option! Hugs.
Hi Jason I am really a fan of yours. I learnt a lot from all your videos. What about hydroponic gardening experience with roses? Have you tried this?
Yes, a long time ago - and it works okay, but I find that long-term roses are just happier outdoors in the soil.
Thank you sooo much for sharing this video! One question: I have gotten some incredibly small band roses just this week, I'm in zone 6b, I'd say these roses look to be about a year old. Should I keep them indoors over the winter under grow lights in my basement? (I have a whole set-up already down there for seed starting.) Or can I plant them outside? I've never planted such small roses outdoors at this time so I'm not sure what would be better for them
Hi Brittany. I wouldn't put them in the garden at that size this late. It's a judgement call between holding them cool but protected or growing them actively (warm, under lights). Each has its pros and cons. With my greenhouses, I usually opt for cool and protected (with just a slight pot-up if I think there's still any rooting time). Growing actively under lights is a decent option too, but it also means troubleshooting for nutrition and pests over the whole winter season.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you!
Very nice. That is quite an expense w/ the light, table, and fan. I don't enjoy keeping up w/ the watering. I am going to spend time enjoying my Cichlid fish, Electric Blue and Rex rabbits for the winter. I did map out a calendar plan for 2020 with my planting a watermelon seed every Wednesday and the (70) day return date for Mini Love. I will have a plan to start earlier in 2020 weather permitting:-)
I need to begin planning my 2020 crops soon as well - I was at the farmers market this weekend, and the vendor beside me was doing very well with watermelon. I haven't done a lot with melons, but you'd recommend Mini Love I take it. The lighting setup was a fun project for me, and I may try a few more things with it over winter - but when February comes, it'll for sure be reallocated to early seed starting.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm This was my 1st yr doing Mini Love. I like how it was a (70) day melon and the taste was good. It was a 2017 AAS winner all-americaselections.org/product/watermelon-mini-love/
May I ask what you feed small plants in pot such as these with? I am growing indoors too and would love to know
I usually incorporate a low rate of controlled-release fertilizer (osmocote or similar) into the potting soil at planting time, and then feed regularly with half-strength liquid fertilizer (Peters 20-20-20 or similar)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm awesome thank you so much, I really appreciate the reply. I believe I overfertilised mine at the beginning since I was using a 24-14-14 and ended up with a ton of leafy growth and buds are just starting to come in weeks later.
Wonderful video!! Is this a good all purpose grow light? Can it also be used for seed starting, etc.
Yes, I still use it regularly even though I have larger LED lamps too.
What light cycle did you use for the indoor grow?
Hi Richard. I matched outdoor day length, which was between 15 and 16 hours (August on the 49th parallel) - just because I wanted an even comparison. Right now, I'm only supplementing natural light with 3 hours in the morning (6am to 9am) and 3 in the evening (6pm to 9pm) - still resulting in a 15 hour day length, but roses aren't sensitive to day length anyhow, so you have some flexibility on your setup.
That was a very interesting video. I hope you don't mind but I need to ask you an off topic question. A couple of months ago i planted some coral carpet roses on a sunny steep slope. So steep in fact that I to dig into the slope to make a flat area in which to set the plants and be able to hold in the water. We had a few humid days here this summer. I'm in Ladysmith. Every rose developed powdery mildew. Any ideas or advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks. I've found my roses to be their most susceptible to PM when they're water stressed. Unless the plants are really struggling (like, you're scared they won't survive), I wouldn't worry about it except to check if the soil is holding enough moisture - which is a tough go on a steep slope.
Will the roses flower at 18/6.. or does the light have to be switched to 12/12?
Roses don't need short days for flowering - so 18/6 is fine.
Thank you for your videos! I have rooted cuttings and live in the northeast USA (cold winters) Should I let them continue to grow indoors all winter or plant outside this fall? Thank you!
I would let them remain in pots until they are established
Jason, is it possible to keep roses in a 100% vegetative state by manipulating the amount of light, kelvin temperature of the light and/or the nutrients?
Hi Shawn. Interesting question. Not in my experience. Let's leave out the once-bloomers (wild species and old garden roses). With the repeat flowering roses, it seems that when there's sufficient temperature and light for strong growth, the rose will successively veg-flower-fruit(hips) and repeat as often as it can. They're not sensitive to daylength. You can slow them or stop flowering with lower light and temps, but that more or less stops vegetative growth as well.
I am curious how long you leave the indoor lights on. Is it 24 hours a day, 12 hours, or 18? And are there tricks to get them to flower at certain times, like cannabis, to switch the light schedule to 12/12?
Unlike cannabis, roses are not daylength sensitive. They care about total light energy, and will flower when they get enough. Whether you offer that in 12 hours or 18 is less important.
Do you know what the lowest indoor temp rose cuttings can take?
I regularly grow roses in unheated rooms, with temperatures nearing freezing. They slow right down and drop many of their leaves at those temperatures - but I guess it depends on how much growth you want over the cool season.
How can I enjoy these in winter outside of the grow tent after they're big enough?
As rosas cultivadas indoor cresceram mais e floresceram primeiro. Nesse caso, essas plantas tiveram duas fontes de luz: a luz da lâmpada + luz das janelas, também houve menor variação de temperatura diurna e noturna se comparada com as plantas outdoor.
As exigências nutricionais nos dois casos são diferentes uma da outra, possivelmente se pode reduzir o nitrogênio e aumentar os níveis de P K CA Mg, isso porque a temperatura noturna dentro da casa é maior e isso promove maior respiração e maior gasto energético da planta - por isso apresentou clorose e outros pequenos sintomas foliares de deficiência nutricional.
Hi Jason, Can you please recommend a good led grow light for rooting cuttings indoor during winter?❤
For a decent price in the US the SpiderFarmer SF1000 is pretty decent
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you!❤️
Soil cimbination is cocopeat and leaf dust
Terrific video, thank you so much.
My pleasure - thanks for watching!
Hi Jason,
How many hours does the lighting is needed. I am asking for both minimum and maximum
I'd suggest 8 hrs min, and they probably won't benefit much past12.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Hi Jason,
Thank you.
I am planning to try it for first time. I am living in India and at high temperature climate condition here.
What do you do through the winter? I assume dormancy is needed, yes?
No, not for most modern hybrid roses. There are a few of the older ones (centifolias, albas) that benefit from a cold period, but just about anything you'd buy these days is fine with no rest period.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you!
Hi. How many gallon pots can/did you have under one light? Thinking of overwintering some bands I got this year that are now in 1-2 gallon pots. Also, in zone 5, that would mean abt 6 months indoors. Thanks for any suggestions.
Hi Mehrin. I used this light in a roughly 3x3 area. I think it could depend on what you're trying to accomplish - with a cooler temperature the plants could slow down into semi-dormancy. This is the way I protect my roses over the winter (sheltered but still cool) and it reduces some of the management (light, watering). If you want them in fully active growth, then you need far more light.
What kind of soil are you using for those?
It's a composted bark mulch and shredded wood fiber mix. I also sometimes use a baled peat/perlite mix (like Sunshine Mix or ProMix) if I don't want to make a bulk order.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks for the reply! subscribed! :) and pls make a video of your soil recipe so that viewers can get idea of how much to mix :)
Nice video 👍 big like connected
What’s the PH on the water you use to water them ,, ? Does it matter with roses ?
Thanks Rusty. Best pH for roses is just slightly acidic.
Hi I live in Alaska and I live in a house with no garage and I was planning to put them under a grow light can I do that and what will happen to roses please reply thank you
Iv lost 2 roses bcs of fungus 3ven treating it
That sucks!
Hello sir. Let me save your video.
Does LED light emit harmful radiation ?
Not from any information I've seen
Indoor plants, the whole year light! Cool! Try this light on Earth? or Mars? My tomatoes