How to wrap stingers (And what is a stinger?)

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024

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  • @colorado_gaffer
    @colorado_gaffer 2 роки тому +2

    Man, I could watch you coil cables all day! That was oddly relaxing 😅

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting  2 роки тому

      You got it! For a day rate and a plane ticket I can coil cables all day 😂😂

  • @boasol
    @boasol Рік тому

    So happy you are addressing and re-enforcing over-over method. I'm dumbfounded how many "experienced" crew keep on thinking that over-under is the 'proper" way for stingers, and will even argue with me when I ask them to do over-over when working with my gear / Sprinter. Worst is when I am tempted to ask my "boss", the DP, who proudly exhibits his over-under skills, wrapping my stingers, but I hold back, not wanting to undermine being asked to work with them again. Recently I was gaffer and provided most lighting and grip to a small feature, and due to an accident breaking my foot on set, I was not able to be there for final pack. They packed the cable with mud on them, and in trying to clean them, I had to undo the tangle that happened from over-under, and rewrap dozens of stingers, which took several times longer than just wrapping it properly to begin with. Also amazed how many crew say they were "taught" to wrap stingers over-under in school or while learning on sets.

    • @fireballfitness170
      @fireballfitness170 3 місяці тому

      The key wording is: so that it's not fighting itself. If that means going under after going over. That's okay. For the most part if it's an untwisted cord then over over will be fine. This is the third or fourth video I've watched on the topic. Another one use the wording; keep it from becoming twisted. I described it as: not having tension on or within the cord. I hope this helps when you're teaching others in the future.

  • @benbach
    @benbach 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the love, sir! You are a scholar and a gentleman :)

  • @gdrriley420
    @gdrriley420 2 роки тому +1

    I run over under for everything, old habit from my years in theater where it was mostly XLR or stagepin. I really like the Leviton light up connectors for my stingers. quick way to know both ends are hot.

  • @Pierorocks
    @Pierorocks 3 роки тому +1

    Sweet! wish I woulda had a video like this when I was starting out!

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting  3 роки тому

      Thanks Alex! I’m taking content ideas- what else do you wish you’d have known?

  • @landonbrands
    @landonbrands Рік тому +1

    Glad someone finally made a good video on this. Lots of misinfo out there

  • @igetitlitsoicansit2950
    @igetitlitsoicansit2950 3 роки тому +3

    I was told if it transmits Data or is Coaxial than it goes over-under. and yes, over over on film sets, and start from the male end when you can so you dont drag the male end and scratch/damage location or your stingers

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting  3 роки тому

      When I’m wrapping Dmx cable on set I always ask whoever’s cable it is how they like it wrapped. I feel like the answer is most often over-over. 🤷‍♂️ I feel in that case however the owner wants it is the right way.

  • @sidestreetvideoproduction7278
    @sidestreetvideoproduction7278 2 роки тому

    Great Information. Thanks.

  • @dreams_of_bubbles
    @dreams_of_bubbles 8 місяців тому

    Nice

  • @poucedeleon
    @poucedeleon 2 роки тому

    What material do you use for the tie cord? And how is it attached. Also do you just use gaffing tape to color code your cable?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting  2 роки тому

      I like #8 sash- it’s just cheap cotton rope. I attach it with a clove hitch and then I secure it with colored electrical tape. Yellow for 25’, red for 50’ is my system.

    • @poucedeleon
      @poucedeleon 2 роки тому

      @@PancakeLighting Thank you for the info.

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting  2 роки тому

      @@poucedeleon cheers!

  • @Danumals
    @Danumals 3 роки тому

    What do you use for color coding? Is that electrical tape?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting  3 роки тому

      Yes indeed, colored E tape. Yellow for 25’ Red for 50’

  • @thomlyons
    @thomlyons 3 роки тому

    What is the benefit of wrapping over-over rather than over-under?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting  3 роки тому +3

      For more delicate cables like bnc and dmx, it is easier on the inner wires. Heavy duty cables like these don’t need that extra caution.
      Every time I do an AV job their 12/3 stingers are wrapped over/under. It’s a difference of standards between industries.

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips 3 роки тому +3

      @@PancakeLighting Ive been chewed to death about this subject. Another has told me its because if you think about how that cable was constructed and how it was packaged, the cables come off of a spool, so really you are trying to help keep the cables natural curve which help the cable stay in good condition. Over under (as much as I love that more) twist and turn the copper on the inside so the cable starts to twist and bunch up which can eventually lead to breaks. So its a matter of keeping the cables in good condition, which means more rentals over the lifetime of the cable. Just wanted to share what ive learned. Nice vid Logan

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting  3 роки тому

      @@GripTips Touche! Thanks Dave that is a much better reason than "This is the industry standard" Thanks for sharing and helping us all learn!

    • @flashdaz05
      @flashdaz05 3 роки тому +1

      I’m from the stills world, and we’ve mostly been told Over-Under too. Cables seems to lay flatter, and splay out easier when over-under.
      Granted, my experience with over-over is limited- I wonder if they have the same benefits (usability wise) that over-under does? Can you simply plug in at the wall, lay the coil down on the ground and walk the end across the room? Or do you end up with a mess / a bunch of trip hazards? Do you end up having to twist the cable a few times to make it lay flat?

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting  3 роки тому

      Usually we would drop the coil at the bottom of the light and walk the plug over to the outlet because we want to have the extra near the light in case we need to move it again- you’re just pulling cable from the top of your pike and not dragging the whole cable across set.
      When I built my stingers and the cable was new it needed to be twisted a few times to lay flat. As they’ve gotten worn in they mostly lay flat as they are uncoiled. It doesn’t bunch up in a mess if it’s coiled neatly.

  • @matthewlivingston3168
    @matthewlivingston3168 2 роки тому

    I worked with some NY 52 electrics and they called them singles. Haha

    • @PancakeLighting
      @PancakeLighting  2 роки тому

      Ive heard about this phenomenon and I find it quite interesting!