Definitely not. The haste procs don't stack so they just end up overwriting each other and you lose all those stats on the off-hand. Running DS/S2 sword which doesn't even require rating anymore is actually a few dps better than DSx2.
Hey, good video. I got syphon of the Nathrezim (as off hand) sonce nobody wanted it. How does it compare to the over weapons with Dragonstrike in Mh. Cheers
Not the best but useful if you don't have any other options + it was free in your case. It performs worse than the other weapons listed in the video - the S2 sword sims about 10 dps better. Using DS/Syphon comes out to being equivalent with DS/Fury (the OH fist weapon from ZA).
It is! Just not on this video. I'll be doing a detailed ZA loot guide here soon. I didn't want to include it yet on this video because it wasn't 100% confirmed if the haste proc would overwrite itself or stack.
It's the TBC DPS Warrior Sim by GroxEmpire. You can check it out here: tbc-dps-warrior-sim.herokuapp.com/ Talon of Azshara is better than the dagger as OH by a pretty decent margin in pretty much all cases.
really surprised 2x vengful sword dosent beat out dragonstrike, also you missed the armor pen bracers from badges, think they are decent upgrade coming out with ZA
I was pretty surprised about that too. It was, however, very close. And you're right about those bracers! I realized my mistake excluding them and included them in the arms warrior video. There will be a new video in the next couple days going over all the new ZA items and the Eternium Rage-shackles will definitely make an appearance.
@@Jambrosay Yeah. I got both my pvp swords and im a bit sad I gotta move back to the same mace ive been using since kara lol. Wonder how 2x dragonstrike is gonna sim
I have! 4pc T6 is definitely viable but not quite as good as having grips of silent justice + CVOS. Your best off-piece is the divine retribution legs. Replace the gloves and helm with T6 and it comes up a little over 20 dps behind in otherwise full BiS.
I didn't even think of that, so many people asking about dual wielding DS! DS in the OH is still valuable since you're not overwriting your haste buff. The S3 sword is still about 9 dps better but dragonstrike would indeed be next best. It edges out Blade of Infamy when paired with the MH glaive by about 4 dps.
The dragonstrike haste proc doesn't stack making it a lot less useful in the off-hand. 1x DS + S3 sword in the off-hand is a 26 dps upgrade over double dragonstrike.
@KingShamaan It definitely matters for orcs! The expertise bonus is good and the S3 axe is a direct upgrade from DS. If you have the arena rating + points then you should run s3 MH + s3 OH.
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Almost certainly not. Armor penetration is a great stat for Fury, yes but expertise is also extremely valuable. Bladeangels only gives 77 arp while having 1 less gem socket, less AP and has 21 crit vs 25 exp (the exp is far better).
easily the best gearing videos I've found on youtube, appreciate such in depth and clarity and right to the p oint
Straight and to the point but still insightful really good video.
awesome gearing help, nice video man! keep it up
great list and info!
I think you can DW Dragonstrikes in p4. Would that not be 2nd bis compared to Glaives?
Definitely not. The haste procs don't stack so they just end up overwriting each other and you lose all those stats on the off-hand. Running DS/S2 sword which doesn't even require rating anymore is actually a few dps better than DSx2.
really amazing video tbh, thanks for the effort
Really informative, thanks for the video!
Very nice video, but you missed some important badge items coming in phase 4, like wrist, waist and shoulder.
how about 2 Dragonstrikes ? 1 with exc enchant and 1 with mongoose enchant. are they any better than 2 S3 swords ? as human ofc.?
Great Vids keep up the content!
Hey, good video.
I got syphon of the Nathrezim (as off hand) sonce nobody wanted it. How does it compare to the over weapons with Dragonstrike in Mh.
Cheers
Not the best but useful if you don't have any other options + it was free in your case. It performs worse than the other weapons listed in the video - the S2 sword sims about 10 dps better. Using DS/Syphon comes out to being equivalent with DS/Fury (the OH fist weapon from ZA).
What about furious shackles for wrists?
Do you intend to do an arms warrior video? So far the bis lists for arms versus fury have been the same, but it seems like they're starting to diverge
Yes I do! Feral DPS is coming next with arms warrior right after that.
Dragonstrike on the off-hand, not a option?
It is! Just not on this video. I'll be doing a detailed ZA loot guide here soon. I didn't want to include it yet on this video because it wasn't 100% confirmed if the haste proc would overwrite itself or stack.
What program do you use to simulate? I would like to know if it is better to use Talon of Azshara or Dagger of bad Mojo as OH, ty
It's the TBC DPS Warrior Sim by GroxEmpire. You can check it out here: tbc-dps-warrior-sim.herokuapp.com/
Talon of Azshara is better than the dagger as OH by a pretty decent margin in pretty much all cases.
really surprised 2x vengful sword dosent beat out dragonstrike, also you missed the armor pen bracers from badges, think they are decent upgrade coming out with ZA
I was pretty surprised about that too. It was, however, very close. And you're right about those bracers! I realized my mistake excluding them and included them in the arms warrior video. There will be a new video in the next couple days going over all the new ZA items and the Eternium Rage-shackles will definitely make an appearance.
@@Jambrosay Yeah. I got both my pvp swords and im a bit sad I gotta move back to the same mace ive been using since kara lol. Wonder how 2x dragonstrike is gonna sim
good job sir
have you simmed 4pc T6 vs Bis offpieces ?
I have! 4pc T6 is definitely viable but not quite as good as having grips of silent justice + CVOS. Your best off-piece is the divine retribution legs. Replace the gloves and helm with T6 and it comes up a little over 20 dps behind in otherwise full BiS.
with a warglaive Mh how do you see the dragostrike in off hand?
thx :D
I didn't even think of that, so many people asking about dual wielding DS! DS in the OH is still valuable since you're not overwriting your haste buff. The S3 sword is still about 9 dps better but dragonstrike would indeed be next best. It edges out Blade of Infamy when paired with the MH glaive by about 4 dps.
great video keep it up
What about 2 dragonstrikes how do they compare to say 1xdragon + s3?
The dragonstrike haste proc doesn't stack making it a lot less useful in the off-hand. 1x DS + S3 sword in the off-hand is a 26 dps upgrade over double dragonstrike.
@KingShamaan It definitely matters for orcs! The expertise bonus is good and the S3 axe is a direct upgrade from DS. If you have the arena rating + points then you should run s3 MH + s3 OH.
What about dual wielding dstrike?
Unfortunately, not good. Just put out a new ZA video a couple days ago going over the dragonstrike change for fury warriors.
With double dstrike i generally have a 70% uptimr on haste proc. Idk how that effects my dps overall but i do like the buzzsaw effect
mmmmh seems like you forgot about Shadowmaster's Boots from Mother Shahraz
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Would the Bladeangel's Money Belt be better than Vashj's belt?
Almost certainly not. Armor penetration is a great stat for Fury, yes but expertise is also extremely valuable. Bladeangels only gives 77 arp while having 1 less gem socket, less AP and has 21 crit vs 25 exp (the exp is far better).
@@Jambrosay Ty for the reply, I thought so but wasn't certain w/o a reliable sim x.x
the first good video about warrior gearing, i watched yesterdays ragebtw lootguide, it was so bad i had to turn it off after 4min
Zug Zug nice video Thanks
great video
Cursed vision should always go to hunters first imo
Between hunters and enhancement shaman it does seem to offer the biggest upgrade, I agree.