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Star Wars Kotor 1 - The Star Forge Battle
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2011
- The battle of Star Forge, in my opinion.
The story I came up with:
The Ebon Hawk finds the Star Forge, but some Sith Fighters and the Star Forge Power make the Ebon Hawk land on an unknown world.
While the Ebon Hawk makes her plan of attack and is repaired, the Sith Infinite Armada awaits the Republic.
Now the Sith and the Republic Fleets fight each other for the Star Forge, and the Ebon Hawk wants to fight too.
The Star Forge is under attack from 2 sides. One side is dominated by the Republic, while the other is protected by the Sith.
The Ebon Hawk defeats some fighters, but she jumps to hyperspace, letting the Republic celebrate their victory.
I hope you like this video and if I will get Kotor 1 to work, I'll may create an extended version of this battle.
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The Star Forge is a true superweapon, it doesn’t blow up planets or fleets. No it BUILDS fleets instead en masse
As many people have said, the Empire could have made like 26,000 Star Destroyers for the price of the Death Star, and were morons not to.
Because the ability to blow up a planet is insignificant next to the power to use orbital bombardments to render a world uninhabitable. And that takes like 4 Star Destroyers per planet.
Death Star= 1 planet at a time.
26,000 Star Destroyers = 6.5 thousand planets at a time.
Quantity of quality is better than just quality.
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human your comment aged well
@@baifomet6425 I don't know how Palpatine's Final Order managed to lose that fight. they were battling a ragtag group of idiots.
It would be like the US navy losing to the Cornwall fishing fleet.
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human yeah, they were hundreds of idiots, but they were idiots from all over the galaxy, too many for Palpatine's fleet to handle.
But then again, having a fleet of powerful destroyers was a better strategy than having a single space station to carry all the battle power.
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human but they can't attack a well defended planet by Star Destroyer because it will cause to many casualties and make the other system that was protected become defensles, i think the Death Star is a good idea, if only they blow Mon Cala then the Mon Calamari will no longer provide the Rebel Alliance with their ship. Death Star is a pretty good idea for me. Other good idea is the TIE Defender but they are to expensive to be mass produce, it will be better if they destroyed Mon Cala and other important and supporting planet to the Rebel Alliance and then start produce more TIE Defender and find a way to make the TIE Defender become cheaper without removing it's quality, and then Mass produce the TIE Defender and build more and improve the Star Destroyer of the Empire and then build another Death Star just in case, perhaps build 2 or 3 Death Star, and then focuss on improving the Imperial Navy and Stormtrooper quality.
I dunno why but i really like the style of the cinematics in KOTOR.
Um cause you do...
Really impressive looking CG for 2003.
@@TheSkully343 Has it really been that long? I pine for the past.
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The Starforge will always be the perfect super weapon! Using matter and energy from a star, it can create vast fleets in short time and I'm going to assume that the forge is capable of modifying ships.
@ i have no qualms about the power of such super weapons.
They are useful but not exactly practical , you cant reuse a planet for resources and staging locations if they are destroyed. Same with a star.
I'll never forgive the Republic and the Jedi for destroying this wonderful masterpiece of technological creation!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi, HK! Still alive? Too bad what SWTOR did to you...
KotorHDTVChannel They tried to tarnish my good name as well. But they failed. I am reborn!
Darth Revan
Lol! This is definitely an advantage for you, isn't it?
KotorHDTVChannel Yet he survived years later on mustafar (Star wars galaxies)
Darth Revan You continue to amaze me revan =P
This is how a superweapon in sci fi should be written...you taking notes Disney? ARE YOU?!?!?!
The Star Forge makes the Death Star look like a child’s toy
This a very well made, minus a few jump cuts, this is probably my favorite version of this battle to watch.
Thank you! I am glad you like it!
Same
I'm really fascinated with the design of the interdictor class cruisers. They look like whale skulls.
Funny how at first, I didn't think too much about playing this game, as it was frustratingly hard to play with the controls. Mind you I was 12 or 13 back in 03-04ish on the "First" Xbox with no access to internet or a dictionary. But it was one of the best games I've played. It was my skyrim, I tried all the options, nostalgia... Glad those hammerheads are cannon now though.
They are?
Seeing how they've started adding them more and more (saw a few of them on some Star Wars Rebels episodes), they could be canon.
willl676 Yeah because they put one in Rogue One. The completely history of Hammerhead cruisers isn't canon though because nothing from this era or anything outside of the movies/shows/recent books is canon anymore.
But at least the ship is :D
Ik this is kinda late. But Star Kotor has been canonized. I just stumbled on it in google. Darth Revan has been referenced in Starwars Ep 9. I might be wrong tho
imagine how stuffed the galaxy would be if the sith had 4 star forges 2 death stars geonosis doid factory, raxus prime, kamino cloning facility, korriban sith academy and mandalore and its moon dxun under its control and allegiance. and several sith acolytes using battle meditation
The Sith would have absolute control of the whole Universe :D
galaxy = Rekt
+MrProp16 Valkorion had such power on Zakuul
Add in the entire armies of the Repuplic (clones) the CIS, the Mandalorian warrior people and the Empire at it's strongest plus the first order. Oh, and we take all those super weapons that were ever created (3 death stars plus much worse like the Sun Crusher, Galaxy Gun, World Devastator and Centerpoint Station and more). Gosh. They'd be able to hold their ground against even the Warhammmer 40k universe for a fair amount of time!
I cannot wait till the remake comes out imagine seeing this battle remade in 4K.
The Republic only won that battle because of Bastila.
They just won cause we have our warrior *REVAN*
Sith were actually just winning becaus of Bastila.
@Tim Burning Against battle meditation she is irrelevant.
The Sith with the infinite production capability of the Star Forge still needed Bastilla's magic to beat a limited Republic fleet. Your argument is invalid.
@ANONYMOUS Ah but that was because Bastila didn't join the fight until the capture of Revan so HA! Revan would have lost had she been there from the getgo
While I know the Starforge can make countless amount of spaceship but how did they get so many crew to board one? Where they all standing by ready to board one after another?
Either having droids manning them or having droid brains built inside each of the ship.
The Starforge was capable of manufacturing droids
Probably had the rakata droids piloting them since the Starforge can create many kinds of droids.
Yes, it can build droids. But additionally the Sith empire controls thousands of plants with billions / trillions of inhabitants (at this point they controlled most of the galaxy, almost winning the war against the Republic). So they have more than enough (willing and unwilling) recruits.
That’s and the star forge churned out endless infinite battle droids…. People think the cis army was big…. 😂😂😂 joke
3:48 I love the blending of the main theme into the battle, Jeremy Soule never change
I haven’t been able to find that song independently
@@SalvationIsInChristAlonesame.. if anyone finds it, please share 😁
the number of sith ships is quite intimidating.
Those turbolasers on the Interdictors aren't exactly brilliantly positioned. If you don't face the enemy with the broadside, then you're screwed
Am I the only one who played the game exclusively as a Sith? My only regret is that the game doesn't allow you to play something else than a chaotic evil Sith. It's just about killing civilians and other gratuitous cruel acts. It seems developpers have a hard time implementing machiavelical and manipulating villains and go instead for the easier silly psychopathic bad guy.
+Philippe D.R. Probably not. I have played mostly as a Jedi, but at some point I decided to see how is it like to be a Sith. In my opinion, neither Jedi, or Sith, are the righteous ones. A hybrid of those 2 is something to my taste.
It would have been cool to have a 3rd option, which wouldn't have been either good or bad :D
KotorHDTVChannel Yea, I would love that there would be bonuses to be a grey jedi, like the old guy we recruit on Kashyk. I don't remember his name, but I loved his philosophy. It was daring from Bioware to break the light vs dark dichotomy of Star Wars and make a believable example of a middle road. Too bad that we harm our character if we try to do the same.
Philippe D.R. Jolee is the one from Kashyyyk. Yeah, he's very rational :D
He and Kreia are pretty much the Grey Jedi of the Kotor 1&2 games (especially Kreia, as Jolee will fight you if you choose the Dark Side).
KotorHDTVChannel Yea, I had some moral qualms at fighting him and Carth Onasis toward the end of the game. I felt like I was a piece of shit. But my character deserved it. :P I bought Kotor 2 on steam, but I'm still in the first part trying to escape the initial station you are on. I should continue the game someday.
Philippe D.R. I know, but it feels good to have the Star Forge at your service and the galaxy under your grasp :D
Too bad you can't play a bit more after this to enjoy your rule as the Dark Lord of the Sith :D
Hey, if you play Kotor 2, then I suggest playing it with TSLRCM and M4-78EP (the newest versions, of course). Those 2 mods basically restore a lot of cut content that was originally made for the game. The reason they cut out a lot of stuff was because they wanted to rush the game... which is a bad move, if you ask me.
The Star Forge would Annilihate The Death Star. It could just make an Infinite Fleet. No hole is to small to hit torpedos down when you have 1000 Cannons firing at once.
lulz Force awakens even stole this plasma charging giant station from kotor XD
+Adicka Adooki Lol. I think it happened to be a coincidence. Unless J.J. got inspiration from the Kotor area of star wars... but I doubt it.
+KotorHDTVChannel No they really stole it...Kylo Ren looks almost exactly as Revan, and Ray as Bastilla...
Adicka Adooki The mask did resembled Revan's mask, but the faces... more or less...
Hmm, maybe, but even so, Rey and Bastila are still different. The same goes for Revan and Kylo.
+KotorHDTVChannel Kylo and Revan apperence is the same...face isnt much important since long after the kotor did we found out how Revab face looked...
About Ray...not by looks that she reminds on Bastille but Rey and Bastila share the Received Pronunciation British accent, and a strong haughty streak...that cant be coincidence ...
then also
Luke leaves behind his trusted astromech droid R2D2 as the only holder of his secret destination when he left into uncharted space before The Force Awakens; Revan left behind his trusted astromech droid T3-M4 as the only holder of his secret destination when he left into uncharted space before KotOR II.
Adicka Adooki Hmm, you make a good point about Luke and R2-D2, but about Rey having the British accent... I think it simply happened that way. Both Ridley and Boyega are English. Or are you suggesting Finn is also something inspired from Kotor? XD
Even if the ideas are really inspired from Kotor, then it is a good ting for me. Kotor is one of my favorite childhood games.
I always liked the hammerheads. Cool design and the cannons are the front are somewhat powerful. The fighters are epic tho. Why were there so many frigates and 4 hammerheads though in the darkside battle when the sith fighters come charging in?
Jamie Ngo Bastila obviously used her battle meditation to strenghten the Dark forces in the Star forge to make it produce even faster, not to mention it Lowers the courage and will to fight in the enemy and strenghten it in the allies, the Republic Were outnumbered and Were basically obliterated
Probably was just what the Republic was able to muster on short notice for the attack and had left at that point. Dodonna mentions during the transmission that the Republic fleet had already suffered heavy losses and was contemplating retreating while you are leaving the planet.
1:53 I've bet the Star Wars episode 9 trailer Palpatine's secret fleet want to inspired from this masterpiece.
after seeing 1:38-2:19 in 1080p HD, not only did my jaw drop in shock and awe (mixed with a whole lot of terror), but my first reaction would be to turn my ship around and jump to lightspeed as soon as possible.
6:29 the music here is the same one in KOTOR 2 when the Ebon Hawk arrives at Malachor V.
Kotor 2 has lots of OST, but some are borrowed from the first game. I like it when sequels of games in a series have their own OST and bring back OST from previous installments.
I was mad when I first saw the Final Order fleet in TROS then I remembered this and decided that there's a star forge inside of exegol lmao
Actually a good theory, as exegol is a dark side nexus and star forge runs on dark side energy
If the Star Forge were still around now, I bet the First Order woud have put it to use for building and expanding there armada!!!!!!
Can never have nice things with Jedi around. A wonder of Force tech.. lost forever, along with an empire.
Fuck the jedi #sithforlife
Man, imagine if Thrawn could control such a superweapon. The Chiss Ascendancy would have had nothing to fear from the empire or the unknown regions
He won’t be able to control it since the dark side taint.
@@zawwin1846 that's where his dark jedi sidekick comes into play
seeing the Star Forge being powered by the Sun reminded me of Starkiller Base.
I was looking at the space battle in Force Unleashed 2(rebel attack on Kamino)
AND IT LOOKS LIKE CRAP, the space battle in Kotor 1 and 2 are amazing compared to Force Unleashed, I can't believe the greatest star wars games are the old ones and the new all suck
Only a few new games ( not only in the star wars area ) have amazed me! The older ones just have a better story, but also some awesome cutscenes as well!
I've just watched the rebel attack on kamino space battle, as you made me curious, and yeah... the kotor space battles are better! :D
KotorHDTVChannel hopefully the new star wars games being made by EA will be good, just afriad they will stick free to play and microtransactions all over them
Frank Rivers
We'll see what the future sets for us...
Frank Rivers You made me watch it too, if the cinematic was longer it would have been a lot cooler, the graphics are pretty cool though so that's a plus for the modern era. But one thing that annoyed me in the Force Unleashed cinematic was why did the X-Wing have it's wings locked in at the closed position, in the middle of a battle?! You would think the pilot would of had a bit more sense... ;)
Frank Rivers yyeeaahh about the microtransactions...
Someone should make a Star Wars movie based on Kotor 1 and then another on Kotor 2 imagine how epic it would be. Or a series.
TheMarker2015 L.S disney has its finger on the nuclear launch codes...waiting for the right moment to unleash a saga onto us
If the Star Forge was still operational and I would own it, I would get my 2017 Visual Dictionary and make a ton of Resurgent Class Star Destroyers.
Cooper Brown try looking into afew Eclipse class 1 and 2's , both have reinforced hull for ramming and ship mounted super lasers, which I know for a fact that can take out Snokes precious Mega Star Destroyer at better range
These were so awesome when they came out, blew me away when I realized they were using d20.
Damn those graphics were good.
1:54 just damn.... Nothing can stand against that. Too bad the Star Forge can only be used for a limited time.
Amazing game
Hell yeah, it is! After playing it myself, I could see why it won Game Of The Year, back in '03. The part where we find out the player character is Revan totally caught me by surprise. Just like the first time I saw "The Empire Strikes Back", when Vader told Luke he was his father.
Imagine Thrawn having a starforge. :D
I could be wrong but I think the Giants spacecraft on the poster of Star Wars Episode 7 is the Star Forge not a Death Star like most people think.
You probably already know this but it's actually a bit of both!
Ther making old palps proud
3:06! Epicness
I agree, at this part I always think of the song that plays when the Rebels attack the Death Star (Battle of Endor I Medley) and Ackbar screams "It's a Trap!"
Evan Schultheis Called -
"A new hope"
6:40-ish: Does this scene remind anyone else of the battle against Sovereign in Mass Effect?
Or is it just that it's a Bioware space battle taking place by a giant space station?
I think I concur with the 2nd observation, as I haven't played Mass Effect. Only watched bits on UA-cam...
You are correct, the battle of the star Forge is very similar to the battle of the Citadel.
+HarryBillyBobGeorge It's the Bioware clichè.
Mass Effect was the game BioWare always wanted to make, so they did a test run of its ideas in KotOR.
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Were those cutscenes taken out of the final game?
Don't get me wrong, I really like this battle. But at the end of the day I prefer the battle of telos.
For me, the battle of Telos is pretty short, yet in length, it may seem as long as the Star Forge battle, but it depends from what point you consider each battle starts.
A few years ago, I used a custom soundtrack mod when playing this game. It was really cool, to have the music from the attack on Jabba's sail barge playing while I was on the Star Forge, cutting up Sith soldiers and Dark Jedi and frying them with Force Lightning!
The star forge is so sweg
Lol, maybe. Thanks for the suggestion!
That Forge was Awesome you can Always Put the Blueprints on a Key card, and Modify the Shield Generator, and Put Turbo Laser Towers on the top, or another weapon that Cripples Ships.
The Star Forge was my favorite level.
Perfect Stuff for creating a film! Come on, Disney!!!
This should be a movie
This was the last time when a great star wars game was made.
Meeh, it was a good sw game, but not great!
TFU, maybe?
balsay Empire at War, Galaxies Legends, Legos,
Great isn't to be confused with good.
haha, starforge vs starforge, a battle of who runs out of star power first
Even though I love both KOTOR games, I love the first game best!
It's unique. Good job
And to think by the Battke of Ruusan 1000 bby they were still using hammerhead corvettes despite the design being over 3000 years old.
Proof that the Hamerheads were cost effective. There have been ships in history which proved to be superior, but they costed so much that it was hard to make them. Or simply the times of peace made the creations of powerful ships as obsolete. In retrospect, Hammerheads are bigger than regular small fighters, but smaller than large cruisers (so medium size ship, which usually has the best cost/efficienty ratio, as small ships need to be many, while a large ship is too much to maintain).
THEY SHOULD RE MASTER KOTOR 1 AND 2
So technically whoever controls the starforge can take over the galaxy just because of the sheer number of warships and droids it can create.
Until it corrupts the owners. Even if in Kotor 1 you choose DS ending, you learn afterwards through a Holocron in Kotor 2 on Korriban that the Sith are gravely affected by the Star Forge.
@KotorHDTVChannel Wait so this thing has a will of its own. Never played KOTOR so I'm confused here.
@@bigduelssevens2309 Not exactly a thing of its own, but the Builders sure created a wonder of a technology. Basically, if you tap too much into the power of the Star Forge, you get corrupted. Only strong individuals like Revan, Malak and Bastila can keep themselves sane longer than others, but even they might eventually become corrupted. I honestly believe that part of Bastila's fall to the dark side was also because of the Star Forge, not just Malak's torture. Malak and Revan, after discovering the Star Forge, became much more evil. Plus what is explained by Bastila in Kotor 2 holocron from Korriban, it kinda makes sense that the Star Forge is not something to be trifled with.
@KotorHDTVChannel So it corrupts its user with the Dark side to the point of insanity. Wow talk about side effects to using it. Sounds like better to leave it alone or indeed destroy it. Still would love a movie or serries around this superweapon.
@@bigduelssevens2309 Yeah, that is what ultimately was concluded with the Star Forge.
Absofreakinlutely. That would be awesome.
@balsay the force unleashed
Impressive! Deserves more views! The only thing that I find slightly off-putting is the amount of scene cuts you have, makes it a little uncomfortable to watch, having said that, this is still brilliant.
the starforge a mega battlefortress to destroy it not using small ships lol,the only way to destroy it by using any superweapon that strong enought to destroy any ship,if true axial laser can bring that thing down
Thanks!
@KotorHDTVChannel wow for an animal that appeared 360 million years ago and remain unchanged even in the star wars universe, which looks like thousands of years into the future, is very impressive in terms of where it is at and where it has been, including outlasting the earths 5 mass extinctions (6 if u include what man is doing to the environment now) in the history of evolution.
03:51 One thing I never understood in this game - How the hell are these supposed to be Capitol ships? They look nothing like ones. They are not even armed like actual Ships of the line.
The Republic had quite the military. It is to bad that years later a Sith named Palpatine would come along and destroy it from within. Well at least the Alliance restored it. I have not played this game in years. I remember in my play-through's the Republic would always beat the Sith. Which is fine by me, I have never really liked the Sith anyway. They all have sticks up their butts.
Both sides are strong and are moments when the Republic is the victor, then the Sith strike back, after that the Republic strikes again and so on...
Pretty much the principle "Take out the leader when it's been too long" XD
WHAT IF... THE STAR FORGE was never destroyed that day... it was made Darkside science the station itself could have used an illusion to make everyone think that it was destroyed for all we know it is still there
@Orcaluv26 Yes
What happen to all those Leviathian ships? I mean, there was like 100 something of them. How many capital ships did Republic bring? 10?
Silly Bob Apparently 25 Cruisers.
Why "Bastila is no longer using her Battle Meditation..." if Revan hasn't been to the Star Forge to stop her?
@TheMartialartsJedi Thanks!
@Orcaluv26 Yup. Old things that still survive
Star forge and sovereign are the same thing
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I play as a Sith, because I find the Sith more interesting and the Jedi are a sexless cult of child kidnapping space magicians who must be eradicated.
And IMO the Sith ending is the better of the two, but the choices you can make in the game are so polarised it can takena lot of the fun out of roleplaying.
You're either punching grandmas and stabbing orphans, or you're giving all your money to the needy and always helping the downtrodden.
There's very little nuance in either playstyle.
The Sith have similar taboo elements when it comes to love, just like the Jedi. For example, Dustil Onasi liked a woman. Uthar noticed this and thought that the girl will be a weakness for Dustil, so Uthar had that lady killed. Now, sure, the Jedi would not have gone so far as killing someone, but it is the same fear both factions have: love. The Sith and Jedi have both their own ideals and their flaws. That is why I like people like Jolee and Kreia and Ahsoka. Those 3 know that a bit of both helps.
Yeah, some choices are a bit strange, but that has never stopped me from having fun in the end. I like the Sith ending too, but I know what happens to the Star Forge in Kotor 2 if Revan is DS, which is a bit sad. They simply prove that whoever controls the Star Forge is doomed to fail on the long run (like with Malak, who gets it in the end either way).
@@KotorHDTVChannel
If I recall correctly, nothing happens to Revan in KOTOR 2 in the dark side path. He simply abandons the galaxy to seek the True Sith just like in the light path(which were different from Bioware's. Avellone hinted at something more subtle, else Revan would have used the Forge to crush Vitiate)
@@juanlaise1059 Yeah, the most you get out of Revan is in Kotor 1 where you actually play as him. In Kotor 2 he is a full box of mysteries lol.
Petition to put Fortunate Son over the Battle.
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and are those sharks in the water at 2:25?
@FighterGuDude3214 Lol yeah
I will never understand why someone would chose the light side.
Because they are decent people. And normally I would say unlike you but I can't be bothered
Decent people=average spineless cowards afraid of true power.
Decent people= This video AKA: Beat evil. This battle is just a perfect example
andrei sandulache if they were then why did the Dark Side lose in this battle hm?
Because I don't like serving the bad guys, I'm fine with being the bad guy in a game like civ, since you're not being told how to be bad, but not in a game like this as the missions tell you how to be bad
how are these cruisers named?
Leviathans.
@taalii123 i know i was just saying so for fun
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OMG! I can't find any videos of people making the Star Forge on Minecraft. Has people seriously never thought of the idea?
Change the title to: STAR WARS kotor 1 blah blah... and youll get a lot more views
Thanks!