Porsche Cayman Buyer's Guide | WATCH THIS BEFORE YOU BUY ONE!
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- The MAX REVS thought process on buying a used Porsche Cayman. Covering the 987, 981 and 718 models. We explain where the sweet spot is for the best bang for your buck!
The most popular comment on this video is the fact the Cayman isn't a supercar. True... but I believe it is a super car.
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As an individual who been involved personally and professionally in the highest forms of motor racing for the better part of 45 years (S.C.O.R.E., I.M.S.A., C.A.R.T., A.M.A.SX/MX, IndyCar, N.H.R.A.) and a Porsche 911 Carrera owner for nearly 30 years I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate the quality, brevity, and lack of redundancy in this video.
This of course means I definitely will not take the time to contrast it with many "men" masquerading as reviewers whose collective time time piloting a 350bhp+ firewagon is less than my total hours living as a seagull.
Much less any advanced formal study in television, commercial production, script-writing, set design or film. I don't say these things to be insulting. I say these things to be very insulting.
There is a reason we have bartenders, attorneys, lifeguards, banjo players, heart surgeons, and tire salesmen. Guess what? Those jobs aren't easy either.
Thank you so much for your comment... I needed a smile today!! You have hit the nail on the head as far as this channel is concerned... not sure if you've seen any other material on this channel? I'm NOT a professional UA-camr, I'm NOT sponsored or paid to say certain things (so much content is these days). I don't review a car every month and say "this is the best car I have ever driven". This is a down to earth community channel and I dig your comments.
If you're ever up for a livestream given your motoring background and appreciation for all things Porsche, I'd love to feature you. During lockdown we did a bunch of livestreams which I will link to as below, we featured subscriber material so people could showcase their story, and we even managed to interview the Porsche Cayman 987 designer Pinky Lai. You have skills on track, however I'd also like to say you have skills with the written word. Very eloquently put ;-)
Livestream with a Porsche racing driver talking about his 718 GT4 - ua-cam.com/video/0EEtMSI5qjs/v-deo.html
Never too old to own a Cayman - ua-cam.com/video/nxcJlUWaaXU/v-deo.html
SCCA/NASA instructor owns a Cayman - ua-cam.com/video/ZKqcH-G9IWM/v-deo.html
Pinky Lai, the man who designed the 987 Cayman - ua-cam.com/video/Yyc1UsnDqYU/v-deo.html
Light-hearted Cayman vs 911 debate - ua-cam.com/video/nKYneB__lUQ/v-deo.html
The 987 is still a great buy today - ua-cam.com/video/KAP6AzzcXMc/v-deo.html
Merry XMAS!!
@@MAXREVS -
Thank you, brother. You were awfully nice I had to get perspective on subject matter again. Hey, you deserved it.
You should see the new assholes I ream m-fers regularly.
I might be wrong, but a friend told me once that people genuinely want honest feedback.....Well, OK?
(I hope you're smiling.)
Anyway Merry Xmas! Maybe we can talk after the 1st...
My best to you and yours!
Enjoy the holiday season to the max. I’ll do my best given that XMAS is cancelled in the UK... if you do ever want to reach out I can be contacted at maxrevscars@gmail.com. Though don’t feel obliged. Most of the people on this channel are middle-aged, which means we don’t care about the fluff commentary, life is too short, just speak the truth. So you’d be a prime candidate to feature. As we get older our BS-ometer gets finely tuned doesn’t it? ;-)
This guy is spot on. I've owned my 07 Gen2 for 10 yrs and i will never sell it as it is the best Car I have ever owned. I drive my Cayman daily and love it, I do all of my maintenance and it is in perfect condition. I can't go a day without some asking me about it and admiring it. When I first bought I was afraid I spent too much money on it but after owning it all these years I can still get a decent amount for it if I ever decided to sell it (not). Great Buy, amazing car and I feel completely blessed to own it!!!
I know I’m biased as I own the same car as you, but hey, you sum it up well! If I had all the money in the world, maybe my answer would be different. If I read your comment correctly, like you, I spent a little bit more than I could really afford on my Cayman. You know, when you stretch yourself than little bit in the hope it will be worth it. Thankfully it sure was!!!
So are the 07'-09 second gen?
The 07 is not a Gen 2....
Your 07 is a gen one
@@golf1diesel not sure, how would you know?
A reviewer that actually explains in detail the different variants.. thank you
Happy to help. I did a part two to this video covering some models I missed if you’re interested - ua-cam.com/video/gaKQnX1Tyk8/v-deo.html
I still drive my base Porsche Cayman 987.1 from 2008 every day and comparing the beautiful design with I drove also the Porsche Carrera 3.2 1988 Coupe and the Porsche 911 2.4 S Targa from 1972 these three Designs are the holy grail !
I have owned the 987 and 987 Gen 2 and agree 100%. I have also witnessed Porsche throttle back that car rather than build it up. Therefore I installed a proper turbo into my gen 2 and it made the car into what Porsche should have as their premiere line now. I dont understand why they would not want to state and shout out an improvement in the cayman that surpasses the 911 but sometimes mass is hard to move into another direction once it starts moving in volume.
If you have a turbo in your Cayman I’d love to feature your car on this channel👍🏼Check out the subscribers playlist on this channel.
Sir, you are so pinpoint precise in analysis. As a 4 yr 987.2 owner, I can say you profoundly understand what this car is about.
Rishi, thanks so much for your comment. I've only had my Cayman for 5 months, so with 4 years of ownership under your belt, you certainly are speaking from a position of knowledge!
I think the 987.2 is a future classic. I've been keeping my eye on the used prices for the last 1 year and they seem to be holding their value well.
Sure. Yes, I've had minimal depreciation. If you have any questions or want to delve into nuances about the car, feel free to message me. The bittersweet conclusion I've reached is that no other car will comprehensively offer as much on an absolute basis or cost:fun ratio (be it the new Cayman,turbo s, 458, chiron). a baby CGT/'vintage' 918 for sure.
Comments like this made me do a slightly bonkers video. Let me know what you think?!
Porsche Cayman Review
ua-cam.com/video/rOoy5gbDN8c/v-deo.html
Great video, I agree. It's fascinating how it's widely known that if Porsche had it to do all over again, that they'd opt to go with the mid-engine platform, rather than restrict the power of the Cayman for the sake of protecting the 911's historical significance (and marketing). Gen 2 Cayman definitely makes the most sense in my opinion, for all the reasons you've stated.
Yes Cayman is better car, 911 platform is popular just because it is a 911... But I am happy people buy the 911 and that being more expensive so I can afford the better Cayman :)
I’m addicted to my 2010 cayman s ..it’s a drivers car I’ve owed a 996 a Camaro S.S. 350z .... this cayman is pure fun and passion. For anyone looking for a sports car .. do yourself a favor Drive one
The 350z / 370z was on my shortlist before I decided on a Cayman! I hear what you're saying.
Comments like this made me do a slightly bonkers video. Let me know what you think?!
Porsche Cayman Review
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Yes, I am very pleased with this report for obvious reasons. That's a 987.2 S in the photo which is in superb condition. I have had it for just over a year and now am more confident with it and push it a little harder each time.
Purchased a Cayman GTS PDK (2018) with under 6,000 miles on the clock recently!! My first ever Porsche!! Many Thanks, Peace From London. 🙏
Congratulations! You never forget your first Porsche. Check out our subscriber playlist - ua-cam.com/play/PLt1QQMoqCNVkwHWmsPeJu2NyXWIxv8Xqb.html
If you’d like to feature your car on this channel (I’m based in Surrey) with your own personal backstory, or submit a subscriber video, please reach out at maxrevscars@gmail.com
Either way, you must have and will continue to have big smiles per mile.
I bought a .2S because of your video back in Jan of 2021, right before prices sky rocketed. Sad to see yours go, but I love mine.
That model holds a special place in my heart… cost:reward:driving_fun ratio is the best with the 987. However this all depends on how much money you have and are willing to spend. If you watch my latest video you will see a 21 year old in the UK who just purchased a 981 GT4 as their first Porsche! Good for him at that age, he earned the money himself.
Absolutely perfect video this is exactly what I was looking for
Thanks. Refined my search terms and bought a 987.2.
Good times are a comin'👍🏼. Congratulations and all the best!
IMS bearing - From 2006 forward the IMS bearing is virtually a non-factor in the 987 platform (2005 Boxsters are still subject to a higher rate of failure). Porsche installed a modified IMS bearing that virtually eliminated the problem. Reports of IMS bearing failures on 2006+ cars have been almost non-existent on this website. While there may be a small percentage that do fail, the frequency of failures is by far much lower than prior to 2006. So much has been made of IMS failures (class action lawsuit, etc.) that some vendors have created hype for their IMS repair kits and will attempt to sell them to anyone with an IMS, regardless of year/make/model. If you are fearful of an IMS problem in a 2006-2008 987 then have it checked out, but likely you will not have a problem. That isn't so much a track day thing. Seems to affect the odd car that has been stored a lot and not revved much or had oil changed much. Automatics seem more vulnerable than sticks because they typically don't get the revs on a regular basis, but we don't have scientific data only occasional word of mouth postings.
That is very good to hear Waleed, as I have a 2006 Cayman S. Did they put the double row IMS bearing type into this year as an upgrade to the single row design that I hear had an 8% failure rate ?? Is that the modified bearing design you referred to, or was there something else ?? Thanks and Cheers
One other question for you Waleed. Have you heard anything about bore scoring on the 06 onwards Cayman`s ???
I’m looking for a 987.2 Boxster S right now. I think it’s one of the best looking cars ever made imo especially with a hardtop. Also, it’s way cheaper than the Caymans right now. It’s crazy to me that they cost less than an s2000! Anybody who has the money for a 987.2 Cayman/Boxer should jump on it, future collectible for sure. Hydraulic steering, light weight, good gear ratios, no particulate filers ruining the sound. It’s just not possible to build a car that good anymore.
What’s funny is this video is 4 years old and Prices have risen. Significantly.
I also wanted to mention that I sought out and found a very special Gen 2. I have the gen 2 with the Sport and Sport Plus mode. That combined with the after market turbo forced me to put wider tires on the back. It is now the ultimate porsche in my opinion. I dont even look at the car when I drive it. Your attention is on the sheer power and fantastic handling.
Gen 2 with that spec... super rare!!!😎
Minor descrepancy - the 987.2 3.4 motor is not the same as the 987.1 3.4. Same capacity but completely redesigned heads and block for starters....Not to mention the addition of Direct Fuel Injection to the 987.2 3.4, though the 2.9 retained traditional MPFI. By the time the 981 came out either engine was DFI.
Yeah totally agreed, I thought I mentioned that in the video, but if I didn't, my bad! The 987.2 DFI engines are the ones to opt for.
If you want a 987 gen 2, there is another dilemma. Do you get that, or the 997 911? The price difference is not huge or none at all. So?
I’ve owned them all. For me the 718 is a masterpiece . Okay,the engine may sound flat but 40 plus mpg and 180mph. Torque,flexibility.........stunning.
Keith Bellamy Hi there and thanks for your comment. You are best placed to comment as you’ve OWNED them all. Can I please ask how long you owned each generation for?
Here’s a recent video of me in a 718... the torque and power were on show!
ua-cam.com/video/TItgSWhXWEM/v-deo.html
I like to think the 981 is preferable, because except for the engine, which gives you about the same feeling in both cars, the 981 is a true step up. The entire car is virtually rust free now, i.e. aluminium or plastic body parts and structural parts, which also lowered the weight. So if you want to buy a keeper, seeing how the latest engines sound crap, a 981 can materially be as pristine in 20 years as it is today, but a 987 will be a lot more prone to rust, deterioration...
Absolutely! Just bought a 2009 PDK Black over tan for 20K, (needed a few things) but great price for an incredible drive.
Very HAPPY for you! Part of me thinks a 2009 Gen 2 Cayman PDK, with a modified steering wheel from Porsche which has flappy paddles would be my IDEAL car. The mod suggested by someone here in the comments or on my other ‘owner review’ video. My 2009 Gen 2 is manual.
ENJOY!
Thanks Mate! Great informative video by the way. The paddle shifters would be a nice addition to an already fun driving vehicle. PDK is a necessity here in West LA, too much traffic to enjoy a manual stick ツ
California... the BEST state! I took this picture in LA in Dec 2017 while on holiday - www.reddit.com/r/lamborghini/comments/896ibq/awesome_lambo_spyder_spotted/
I don’t recall seeing a Cayman in my 2,000 miles of road trip. Must be a pretty rare sight on the roads?
Indeed and Santa Monica the best neighborhood in LA! She's a Beauty, but I would be too worried about her on the streets 😄 I see 06-08 Caymans, very few Gen 2s.
Have 180,000 km on 2009 cayman s ,pdk , modified muffler ,larger intake plenum , glass engine cover with red led lights on engine , snow tyres in winter, no problems ,best part of going to work in sport mode , manual mode , using paddle shifters , Brakes have saved me a couple of times ... london ontario
Great Video! I was in doubt about wich model of Cayman should I choose and now... no doubts anymore! Thank you very much, all the best, Marcos (from Brazil)
MARCOS A M S Great to have some comments from Brazil! This channel has lots of Porsche Cayman content so hope you enjoy the other videos ;-)
Here’s a playlist - ua-cam.com/play/PLt1QQMoqCNVn4_XHikJlGyM3ZdgUCuFq2.html
@@MAXREVS I will watch this playlist right now... thank you very much again and please let me know whenever if I can help with something.
Brilliant and spot on. Having owned and tracked a 987.2 Boxster, I can confirm this guy's observations. My next car will likely be a slightly newer 987.2 Cayman S, and I will be tracking the hell out of it.
Track days! Now we’re talking!!
Comments like this made me do a slightly bonkers video. Let me know what you think?!
Porsche Cayman Review
ua-cam.com/video/rOoy5gbDN8c/v-deo.html
Comments like this made me do a slightly bonkers video. Let me know what you think?!
Porsche Cayman Review
ua-cam.com/video/rOoy5gbDN8c/v-deo.html
Thanks for the breakdown Max. I'm an Audi/Porsche fan. My "want" is Porsche (Cayman), but my budget is Audi (TT/TTS). You're insight is greatly appreciated as I buy my first sportscar.
No worries and THANK YOU for your comment. I wish you all the best with your purchase. The TT is a great car too!!
Great honest guide which echos my views too, so much so i am picking up my 987, 9 year old with 24,000 miles gen2 3.4s in the morning.....Can not wait.
Many congratulations on your purchase!! You will awake with a smile on your face tomorrow, that’s if you get much sleep ;-)
Ha ha, no sleep for me and been awake since 4.30am. I have had a list of cars in my head that i have wanted to own and now i can tick this box. My old TT 225 mk1 goes on Monday which has been another fun car to own and one day a 911 and a v8 AMG would be cool.
@StephenW. How did the collection of your Cayman go? How does it feel compared to your TT?
WOW....The first impressions of driving my 3.4s was being blown away with the performance of the engine through the PDK box.The handling is amazing and the fact that i now own a Porsche has kept me smiling ear to ear.I look forward to getting to know the car more, but comparing it to the TT is night and day.Even though the TT was a quattro and handled well the Cayman is in a different league.....Simple the best car i have ever owed.
Nice to hear, and I'm happy for you👍🏼
Is the steering that much different in the 987? I really love the looks of the 981. Not really massively keen on the electronic break but it'll do. The clutch felt pretty heavy - does the 987 feel comparable? I believe they are both a similar width/size - did you perceive the 987 to be smaller or more nimble when driving especially on tight roads? Thanks
My opinions on steering feel, clutch, and size across the generations. Clutch and size applicable to all generations, the steering references are to the non-GT products. The GT cars have the same weight in the steering, but are more precise, less slack in the system. 987 definitely has the stiffer clutch by a measure. However I like it. It’s an age thing, if you started to drive cars around 1990, it’s perfectly fine. I have driven older cars with WAY stiffer clutches with NO power assistance as a youth. The 718 clutch is softer than the 981, but not as much as the difference between 987 and 981. The steering feel is personal and subjective. On a recent road trip a big difference I found is that when you enter a corner and load up the front wheels by turning, I could feel more through the steering wheel with the hydraulic setup. I do believe there is less feedback through the electric racks in the 981 and 718. However in normal driving it’s fine, and you will soon get used to it. On the size note, yes I do feel the 987 is smaller. Part of this is due to the cabin, just feels smaller. The car is also that little bit smaller. I haven’t driven the 981 or 718 for a long trip like 500+ miles, however I do feel the cabin setup, centre console redesign, and external sizing does make the car feel bigger. Whichever Cayman you choose, you will quickly forget about these issues and just enjoy the car. Saying all of the above, I’d love to own a 718 GTS or GT4 if I had the money.
All about the hydraulic steering. I agree
Very succinct breakdown of their differences. Thanks
I bought my first ever Porsche three days ago. And it's a 2011 Cayman S 987.2 with 320 hp and PDK. Before I bought it I came to the same conclusion that is expressed in the video. It's either 987.2 or 981. And if you are rich enough GT4 is incredible. Overall my car is fantastic and I'm glad I saved money over 981.
83_Bismuth Thanks for sharing the good news. I’m very happy for you and wish you many years of happy motoring. If you haven’t seen the GT4 video I’ve just made, I highly recommend it.
@@MAXREVS Thanks I'll check it right now
The Cayman and notably the Cayman R are the cognoscenti's Porsche (disclosure, I own a Cayman R). When the Macan came out, the dealer told me it was to the Cayenne (we owned then) what my Cayman is to the 911. Smaller, nimbler, just more fun. Now we have both the Cayman R and a Macan and he was right....
Superb cars you have, and thank you for sharing your thoughts. As a family man a Cayman AND a Macan would simply be AWESOME.
I have a Cayman and a Honda FRV... hahahahaha!!! At least I have the Cayman ;-)
About the Cayman R, I actually clarify my thoughts in my latest video.
Porsche Cayman Review
ua-cam.com/video/rOoy5gbDN8c/v-deo.html
Are a lot of those engine issues present in all 987.1 or just the 3.4? As I've heard the 2.7 in first gen was more reliable and didn't have bore scoring issues? So I thought a 987.1 2.7 would be safe
Great question. This subject is covered throughout this video, as we listen to a 987.1 base Cayman owner - ua-cam.com/video/z3Nn364MkfI/v-deo.html
In short, the 2.7 is more reliable. However it has to be noted, the issues with the 987.1 Sport engine are not that common, and it’s generally over-reported. I saved longer for a 987.2 Sport to avoid this whole issue. I’d say the safest choice is between a 987.1 Base vs Any 987.2. Good luck!
Very informative video, Max! Kudos to you ! Really appreciate it.... I am considering a 987 Gen 2 Cayman S.... Was wondering what's the actual running/maintenance costs and can I use it as a daily driver? Thanking you sir in advance.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Daily driver? For sure, even though I use the train to get to work. The service interval is every 2 years for a minor, and every 4 years for a major. Or after doing something like 20k miles if that comes first... I’d need to check the manual.
Minor in the UK is around £300 and major around £600.
Need to head out early today to make a video, so as Arnie says... I’ll be back!
MAX REVS Thanks a bundle, sir...
Yes this is the same I have figured out by watching lot of Porche Cayman videos...
I own a 997.1 and I very much like the 987.2 The value and rear storage is an advantage.
Hi there! Thanks for taking the time to comment. Real nice to hear from a 911 owner, commenting how they like the Cayman, and don’t think of it as a poor man’s Porsche! Good day to you sir!!
great video dude, you seem really passionate about your car and I LOVE that :)
I've been lucky enough to drive the 'Cayman R' twice now, and for me it's the best car I've ever driven.
It's not the fastest obviously, but has more than enough power for public roads and definitely the most engaging drive I've experienced.
Thanks for taking the time to comment! Wow a Cayman R... that must have been nice. Not something I have managed. With my budget it is totally out of reach. Funny you mention a Cayman R as one came up for sale today. Link coming up...
www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/1298/CaymanRPDK/
MAX REVS yer definitely out of my reach too pal, potentially a good investment though as long as you keep the mileage low.
MAX REVS gorgeous, i drove the manual. I've actually not driven the Porsche PDK. been it one but didnt get to drive it.
Just checked out your video blasting around in a Cayman R... you have great friends or contacts to lend you the car ;-)
Plus cars and weightlifting... what a unique channel!!
I have a 2006 Cayman S. It suffered from the bore scoring and it was upgraded to a 3.8. This is how all Cayman S cars should have come from the factory IMO. Very quick and a blast to drive every time I drive it.
Sorry to hear your car suffered from bore scoring. Happy to hear you got it fixed! Are you saying you have a 3.8 litre engine in your Cayman??!! That sounds mental and bespoke.
I bought it after it had the work done. The previous owner needed to sell it due to divorce. It still had the break in oil in it when purchased. Yes, it now has a 3.8. I have the receipts for it and the total cost was 25k. I talked to the builder (who owns about 40 Porsches) about it to get all of the details and he said as it stands it has about 90 hp more than what it came with. I am not sure as I have not taken it to the Dyno, but it is extremely quick. I am going to do a review on it this Spring once the snow melts here in Minnesota.
Talk about a unique car. Sounds awesome!!
great video, i love how you talk and list the stats up on the top left.
Thanks. Great timing to comment. I am about to make an updated version of this video👍🏼
Looking for some advice. I've found a Cayman S i'm considering buying. However it has 50,000 miles on it. Is this a lot for a Cayman, can i expect serious issues?
Hi there. We’ve got people here with over 100k miles on the clock. I personally have around 54k miles. Items to watch for... if manual have the shifter cables been replaced? Has the water pump been checked for impeller rattle? How are the coolant hoses looking? These I’d say are the more common issues. You didn’t mention if it’s a 987.1, 987.2, 981 or 718. Happy hunting!!
Apologies its a 987 gen 2. Thanks for the advice i will be sure to ask the dealer about this
0:30 The 981 Cayman was released as 2014, not 2012. 2013 was skipped for the Caymans and therefore do not exist. Only the 981 Boxster was released as 2013.
Sorry would choose the 981 all day long
Love the 987 Cayman. Just to correct you: the 987 Cayman was launched in the UK in 2006 with a 3.4-litre 295bhp Cayman S. Then in 2007, the 2.7-litre 245bhp Cayman was introduced - model numbers were much less than the S. The base model is often overlooked by the more powerful 987 S, but dig a little deeper and you will discover that many people consider the base model to be the hidden gem. Check out this article from Chris Harris off Top Gear who owned one. www.arthurlea.com/Porsche/Harris/harris4.jpg?fbclid=IwAR02z6J5RtEEaqQ2mSQQUt-nzUfmhiJ1Uv95nJe8d8esGQ2JcdehzKVvgpY
1530swimmer Thanks, did I get the launch order wrong? I think for the sake of the graphics and introducing the cars, I wanted to present them in model order, not launch order. It was a while ago, can’t recall what I was thinking, however thanks for the correction. Yeah, that was a proper Chris Harris article before he got super famous. Nice writing style he has.
@MAX REVS Yes, the launch order is incorrect in the video. The non-S was launched later (in the UK at least!) with an updated engine to the S, hence it having a more reliable engine and less production numbers. Keep the excellent content coming! I think we need to see a full generation line up of the Caymans from past to present, that would be epic - video idea? I can provide the base 2.7 in cobalt blue!
Great vid. Thanks man, helping me suss out which I want. 987 front runner so far.
Happy to help, and thanks for the feedback👍🏼
Except your prices for G2 987 S and 981 S are way off.. Add £5,000 to £10,000 more
Thanks for your comment.
Prices were the average on Autotrader when I made the video around Q3 2017. Admittedly not that many G2 987 S models were on the market, can't recall how many figures made up that average.
Will check used prices this week. Maybe they've gone up a bit ;-)
what should i buy if there are a cayman 987.2 base 2.9 and 987.2 S 3.4？2.9 is non direct injection but 3.4 is as same as 997.2 base. And then what would u recommend between 987.2 2.9 vs 981 2.7？Thanks
Without knowing about you and your finances this is hard to explain. You are comparing Cayman generations and engines here. Only you can decide between the 987 and 981. Personally, whether 987.2 or 981 I’d take the 3.4L Sport engine
@@MAXREVS Thanks for your reply and i would like to take 987.2 S 3.4 too
Thanks for this - very useful. Hope your holiday at Sani was as enjoyable as mine was!
I think that I'm finaly ready to get a Porsche, a Cayman to be specific, my budget goes from 20k-25k.. an 07 and up is the best option to avoid the ims failure??
Hi, not sure if you are talking USD or GBP. If GBP, £25k should easily get yourself into a 987.2 which was made from 2009 onwards. More reliable than the gen 1.
@@MAXREVS hi max revs, I was talking about usd, I live in Chicago Illinois not too many automatic, I know I should get a manual but not very practical in the city, hopefully I can find an 08 and up, not rushing in to it..
I just bought a 718 - and since I've never driven a 987 G2, I'll not notice what it could do - and probably won't care. I like to buy new and with the upgraded interior. The engine is still behind your head in the 718, right? If you could tell me if I could buy a 987 G2 BRAND NEW, let me know, and I'll cancel my build and buy it.
Wow!! This is a seriously interesting question. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Firstly I have to state I was on a budget which didn't allow for buying new. So the budget largely swayed my thinking over the Caymans. This video is a used buyer's guide, and the prices of 718 Caymans at the time of making this video were close to list price. So I ruled them out based on cost and the fact they're turbocharged.
As for your question... BRAND NEW 987 G2 versus BRAND NEW 718? I can only assume that when you talk about a brand new 987 G2, you're talking about the original model which came off the factory line. In other words the older interior fit out. The 981 Cayman had a better interior than the 987. The 718 builds upon the 981 interior. I can only answer for myself, and that is that the 987 interior build is good enough for me. Is the 981 interior better? Yes. Is the 718 interior even better? Yes. But I'm happy with the 987 interior.
If my local Porsche dealer offered me a brand new 987 G2, versus a brand new 718 Cayman, I probably would go for the 987 G2. Why? For the engine noise in the cabin, naturally aspirated engine.
If my local Porsche dealer offered me a brand new 987 G2, versus a brand new 981, I probably would go for the 981. Why? The last of the naturally aspirated Caymans. I could live with the electrically assisted steering.
May I ask if you test drove a 981 Cayman versus the 718? Many Porsche dealers still hold inventory of used 981s, often at inflated prices compared to new 718s because of the naturally aspirated engines.
If you test drove the 718 Cayman and were happy with the noise on hard acceleration, heck just keep the order and buy the car!! I mean with all the endless model varieties, Cayman GTS, Cayman GT4, it will only be a matter of years until the 718 Cayman successor comes out. I personally have a thing for the naturally aspirated boxer engine. Prior to my Cayman I owned a Jaguar XFR 5.0L supercharged V8 saloon car. In the case of the Jag it was all about exhaust noise. In the cabin the engine noise wasn't that pronounced.
What I'm getting at is that every car is unique in itself. Only because the 718 is being compared to the 981, is this engine noise comparison being made. Ultimately if it was me, I'd test drive a used 981 versus a new 718, and let my heart decide between the two. At least if you test drive a 981, and don't like it, it will just make you like your 718 even more. If you do like the 981, then maybe go for one of them? My character type is always to have more information at decision time than less.
Lastly, whichever Cayman you get, you're sure to enjoy yourself. It's easy to compare the different Cayman generations against each other and nitpick. The really BIG issue is HOW AMAZING THE PORSCHE CAYMAN IS versus the competition like Audi TT, Nissan 370Z, BMW M2... at the end of the day every Cayman is a great car.
Great reply. Excellent points. Porsche is the car of my dreams - 911/718 whatever. I'll really like my 718 and I bought it (special order) with all the options I felt I need for $63.7K. A real bargain IMO. I'm not so much a sound guy. All aspects of the Porsche production separate it from most other brands. What I've wanted for my entire driving life - 55 years. It is a Status Symbol and separates itself from most others.
Congratulations on making a dream come true. You’re sure to enjoy it when it arrives!! Remember the 718 has the engine in the right place for a sports car, unlike the 911. Hahahaha ;-)
@@johnvandehey7002 and the 718 has much more torque for low rpm power...i have a 2009 987.2 base. dream car is the 718 s.
Wanted a Boxster since the original concept car was presented. Cayman makes more sense as I live in the NE and we get six months of winter followed by three months of rain.
Dude. Just do it. The Cayman is awesome!!
The engine issues on early Caymans is almost a myth. I'm not saying IMS never happens on those early cars. Just that i failed to find a single example online of a cayman that has suffered an IMS failure and asking my local Porsche specialist he has never come across an IMS failure on a Cayman so it must be quite rare. Bore scoring however is an issue.
My 2009 Cayman S was my first ever Porsche purchase. I initially noticed a big price difference between the 987 Gen 1 and Gen 2’s when looking at the used market. Further research highlighted the bore scoring issue. That led onto discovering about IMS failure. This was all pretty scary stuff if something went wrong. Maybe I could have bought a 987 Gen 1 and everything would have been fine with the engine, but in the end I went for the 987 Gen 2 and bought from a reputable dealer (instead of private). Main thing I wanted to do with this video was at least raise the awareness. Then the viewer can decide what they do next.
Nicely done... Currently have a 987.1 due to affordability. Someday a 987.2 will be in the garage!
I hear you. I started looking at a 987.1 but ended up going for the 987.2 for the extra power and peace of mind.
Don't think I'm knocking the 987.1, it just wasn't the one for me.
I managed to borrow the extra money to stretch to a 987.2👍🏼
Yes, affordability is a big issue, something Max Revs totally glosses over. !!!
Its a big stretch Max Revs, and for a lot of enthusiasts on a budget, have family etc, that extra cash is hard to justify, let alone find. Personally, I know of nobody that has had bore scoring issues, and as you said, its maybe 5% of cars. A good pre test and buying from reputabable dealer should put one`s mind at ease. The extra power of the Gen is nice, though its not much really, and hardly noticeable in everyday driving.
Thanks max ; great review I have been mulling over this for quite a while gen 2 987 cheers d
do it, life is too short. I save up 3 years and finally got it. I have no regrets, of course mine is a Gen 2 07 and it is a blast!!
How could you tell , which one is Porsche Cayman S Gen1 vs Gen2 ? Thanks
Hi! I always compare the position of the front fog lights. 987.1 has them closer to the centre of the car.
@@MAXREVS Thanks. Which would you recommend, get Cayman S or Mercedes A45 / CLA45 AMG 2013 ?
Only you can make the final decision. However I will say Porsche build quality is better than Mercedes or BMW in my opinion. They are rarer on the roads and offer a purer sports car experience. I used to work with someone who had an A45 AMG. It used to suffer all sorts of gearbox transmission issues. Finally got fixed with a new gearbox... have a search on reliability issues. Depends if you want an out and out sports car (Cayman), or just a nice car to drive around in. The Cayman is an amazing sports car👍🏼. I wouldn't compare it to a Merc A class. Even an AMG.
@@MAXREVS Thanks a lot, and yes agreed 100% it is rarer found in the street .
Worth buying an 06 Cayman S that’s been borescoped and has 6 months warranty at 136k miles for >£10k ??
Very hard to say on that. Other things could go wrong as I have experienced. Coolant hoses, shifter cables... what you’re saying is the engine has been checked over so great👍🏼At that mileage probably need to think about other things like clutch, control arms, the bushings, not to put you off at all. Just need to have eyes fully opened😳
Good info... if my budget is in the Gen1 S or Gen2 Base, which way should I go?
@Full Octane - Oooh, good question! I did look into this issue at the start. For me peace of mind was important. I didn't want to buy my new pride and joy only to discover it was a lemon afterwards, i.e. engine suffered from engine bore scoring. So the choice was actually:
(Gen1 S) + ((Engine inspection cost) OR (Speciality backed car warranty purchase))
(Gen2 Base)
Getting a special warranty covering the engine proved difficult.
The DFI engines in the Gen2 give you extra power over the Gen1, as well as peace of mind. So I'd probably go for the Gen2 Base.
Just my opinion... everyone's different and I'm sure some people will disagree. It's about doing what's right for you ;-)
MAX REVS nice... thanks. I’m normally a Jag Guy... Drove my XKRS on a rally in and around the Tail of the Dragon and a guy in a Cayman S kicked my ass! Got me looking. We put some videos up on the drive. Check them out!
@Full Octane - Hot Jags are nice👍🏼. Will check your video out, thanks!!
Gen 2 base 2.9 with PDK 0 to 60 mph is 5.1 sec as tested by C&D magazine. Gen 1 Cayman S ? 4.9 sec. No IMS in Gen 2, yes PDK is fast but for piece of mind and pure enjoyment engaging with the car , better to get bade cayman Gen 2 in a manual !
The Gen2 S engine is DFI, but not the base. I still agree with your overall conclusion though. Thanks for a great video!
Thanks so much for all the great and useful info! :-)
No worries!! Thanks for taking the time to comment. There are a bunch of Cayman videos on this channel so make sure to check out the Cayman playlist if you’re interested.
Very informative and to the point. Thank you
CLS550 No worries. Thanks for taking the time to post a comment and give some feedback! Since making this video there’s a whole load of other Porsche Cayman videos I’ve made if you’re interested - ua-cam.com/play/PLt1QQMoqCNVn4_XHikJlGyM3ZdgUCuFq2.html
agree with stat that 981 isnt worh extra money beside 987.2. Those are basicly same cars. 987 is more calssy porshe design but 981 has better enterior and rear
Good video. Have a 981S and love it. Would have been happy with the 987.2 also, except I did want the nicer interior and features.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. You have a keeper there👍🏼. In my Cayman owner review video I clarify my thoughts expressed in this video. Love the 981, just didn't have the budget to stretch to one.
i have a base cayman 2007 2.7 and I must say he is wrong. the first gens are equally good and should be considered another level than the 981, sorry hehe
Too bad the 987 gen 1 is so worrisome. It's a very pretty choice. Slightly lighter in appearance. Still your insights are appreciated.
Thanks for the feedback. Don't be totally put off the 987 G1. Just make an informed decision👍🏼
Max Revs, enjoyed the music in your video, so who are the artists ?? Slick production and liked the Drone shot at the end. Keep up the top work. Cheers.
For me to answer this correctly, can you please put the question on the appropriate video? Thanks!
Oh yeah sorry, Doh !!! Your latest production featuring the 987/981 comparo. Cheers
Jimmy M I've replied on that video in case the question comes up again. It'll be somewhere in the comments.
Interesting video especially since you seem to prefer the car I drive as my daily!! ;-) I have a 987.2, 2009 Cayman S manual 6 speed and love almost everything about it except the stock throttle response seemed delayed and the clutch uptake is a bit high off the floor for my liking... I've been driving manual cars for over 40 years from hot rods ('68 Camaro with a built 327 including a six pack set up), to little roadsters ('72 Fiat 850 Sport or '77 MGB), and the combo of both ('75 Triumph TR6 with a Ford 289 under the hood/bonnet), and my other present love, a slightly modified '76 BMW 2002, with its light flywheel and mechanical throttle linkage, but I have to say that this Cayman S is the only car that I have stalled more than once while softly launching... I was wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience...?? As a solution to make the throttle response a bit more active for the Cayman, I installed a "Sprint Booster" which has seemed to help with the electronic throttle delay! It now has little to no delay when stomping down! Just thought that I would throw this out there...
Fantastic comment and thanks for sharing your experiences here!
In the 8 months I have had the car, I've developed a habit whereby I give it too much throttle when moving off in 1st gear. Now you mention it, it's probably because when I first got the car I stalled it a few times.
No idea what a 'sprint booster' is but very interested to find out more. Thanks!
Thank you for your kind response! The "Sprint Booster" is an easy, hands on install of basically a plug in device between the throttle pedal and the car's electronic control module. It costs a bit less that $300US. Here's a quote from their site, "Sprint Booster reprograms the acceleration signals in your stock ECU, so that your pedal responds quicker with little to no lag." It also has quite a few choices on how quick the response can be for your personal preference. I believe some Cayman's have a quicker throttle response with a special mode button, but the actual option escapes me at this moment, and my car does not have this option . The "Sprint Booster" does make it smoother for blipping the gas pedal when downshifting or heel towing, and it seems to get the revs up faster when accelerating. Before I installed this, the throttle had a bit of a marshmallow feel. There are some UA-cam videos on it. By the way...I do not work for them or have any financial connection to their company. Just an enthusiast!! :-) Cheers!!
Your wisdom on something I could do with on my Porsche Cayman S will definitely be investigated. Thanks once again!
mid engine is where its at! so much fun
As you mentioned fun... here is a fun video I just made. Thanks again for taking the time to comment. If you get the chance please let me know what you think on this video!
Porsche Cayman Review
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Nice review of all Cayman generations. I love my ‘15 981 and glad I was able to get one of the last 6 cylinder models. By the way, it’s pronounced “Por-Sha” (two syllables).
Thanks for taking the time to comment, and the pronunciation tip ;-) I’ve seen so many videos on this topic... the UK has a history of saying it “wrong.”... no excuse I know, but it’s what I grew up with as a kid. Your 981 is definitely a keeper. In the UK they hold their value very well year to year. Congrats!
You are filming this video in Sani resort Greece aren’t you?
Yes sir! Well spotted ;-) One of the best holiday resorts in the World... the level of service is superb!
The Cayman is considered a Supercar? I didn't even know that before. I want one even more now.
boredom ;-) maybe put a space in between that word... it’s a super car!
but that problems you're stating about 987.1 cars...isn't that specific to S models so 3.4 litre engine and smaller 2,7 is bulletproof? :D
Hi there and thanks for commenting!! Here is a good read on the topic which isn't just specific to the Cayman.
www.porscheinspections.com/content/downloads/M96_M97_GTPorsche.pdf
My belief is that for the 987.1, the different engine sizes have differing levels of probability of being affected by bore scoring. Though yes, the smaller engine had fewer issues with bore scoring than the larger one. Not sure about being 'bulletproof' though.
I was making the point to get the DFI engines in the Gen 2 if budget allows for peace of mind.
3.4 Litre engine is the `S` model as far as I am aware.
Enjoyed your video and enthusiasm for the Cayman, despite my issues with some of your observations.
You may be right but to me the 981 interior and exterior are so much better looking than the 987 plus it doesn't look as dated. I don't mind buying a pre-owned car as long as it doesn't look "old". The only thing I like about the 718 are the lights. Very informative video though.
Thanh Nguyen Thanks for taking the time to comment. To be clear I’m not saying I’m right, it’s just my opinion. Let’s be honest, the best Cayman is the 981 GT4! I could just about afford the 987.2 I purchased. If you like Caymans check out the other videos here, lots to choose from.
@@MAXREVS Again you're right on the 981 GT4 I would buy that before I buy a 911. I really enjoy all of your videos. You got a new sub :-) Take care and keep the videos coming.
Glad to have you on-board👍🏼
From what I understand every Cayman through 2009 has the possibility of the IMS problem.
No. there is no problem after 2005 as the IMS bearing was greatly enlarged.
GREAT THANKS ALOT !
Great analysis!
Thanks!
What year is the gen 2??
james gggt In the UK the 987.2 started from 2009, and you can tell the models apart by comparing the front fog light placement
I was looking at a 2007, is the reliability alright?
you should link up w supercars of philly if u r ever in USA east coast he is awesome
First gen 987 ???
Nice vid - I'm looking at Caymans at the moment for a purchase in Jan. A late Gen 2 is very tempting.
Thanks for the comments, and good luck with your purchase!
If possible buy from a dealer with a good used Porsche reputation as they only take in the best condition cars.
The ones suggested to me if you are in the UK were:
911virgin
RPM Technik
JZM Porsche
Paragongb
Hey thanks for replying. I'm actually in New York (although I'm a Brit!) but there are some decent dealers in New Jersey across the river - I've seen some pretty sweet deals on 2009 - 2011 Cayman S cars. I'll let you know how I get on!
If you find a good one, do it! I bought my 6 speed 2009 / Gen 2 in 2013, and four years later I'm loving it as much as the day I bought it. The handling is the best of the best, absolutely glorious. It's super precise, but not the least bit twitchy. It's extremely stable, well-mannered and perhaps best of all, forgiving. The engine, trans, clutch, brakes; all perfection. If you like driving, you will love driving this car. Without spending crazy supercar money, the Porsche Cayman 987 Gen 2 is as good as it gets. One caveat, however: shifter cables. Google it.
TheSquark - Thanks for your comments, and I totally agree with what you've said. I haven't heard of the 'shifter cables' issue so will definitely look that up.
Yeah, they have an unfortunate tendency to break more than they should, which is never. One of mine broke, leaving me stuck in first gear. Fortunately enough, however, I was only a few miles from home when it happened, so no tow truck. You can imagine just how much fun THAT particular drive was.
I bought a pair of Numeric Racing cables and switched them out myself. They function as advertised, no issues. They're great. I have peace of mind once again. Here are some links:
gotaclassaction.com/porsche-investigated-over-faulty-shifter-cable-in-911-and-cayman-vehicles/
numericracing.com
what year does the 987 gen 2 start ? 2008?
Hi there! Gen2 987s launched in 2009. If you want to tell the difference between the Gen1 and Gen2 compare the front fog lights👍🏼
LOL. “Don’t bother with the 1st gen it’s down on power”. Smaller engine, lighter and cheaper. It’s like this guy doesn’t realise that a less restrictive exhaust and a good remap would bridge that gap significantly. The money can save can go on an LSD, seeing as none of these models came with them as standard.
Gen 1 2.7l engines don't get bore scoring.
Thanks for the tips.
This is very out of date now. Where on the road do you ever get that flat 6 up to 6,000 revs?
Dazedand Confused Erm, last week in this video! ua-cam.com/video/D5ZqJRRzRAI/v-deo.html
Wrong - Gen 1 launched, or should that be lunched with the 3.4s - the 2.7 followed later and is fine, and the 6 speed version of that is rare as hen's teeth and the pick of the bunch. Gen 1 have more character, quirky roofline which gives them a definite 'look' less plasticy interiors too than the gen 2.Of the Gen 2 the 2.9 is bulletproof, rare but hard to find with good spec. As always with Porsche, the base cars are often the best road cars. That applies with this model too.Mine? A gen1 2.7 6 speed with PASM. Very happy!
Have you heard anything re Bore scoring issues with any of the 2.7`s ??? Cheers
Hi, please see the thread started by "janezick" in the comments.
Take away the gratuitous engine noise clips and you are actually suggesting that you have presented a comprehensive guide across all the generations of Cayman, in less than 4 minutes and expect a purchase decision to be made on that basis? You have had several years to improve and update this "information", so why have you not done so?
According to wiki pages it was 986
Anyone got ideas on what should be considered as normal oil consumption on a 987.1 3.4 L. ????
Just to say I don’t know but will ask around. I’ve had my Cayman 8 months now... it was full when I bought it, so will check my oil levels when I’m next on a flat surface.
Thanks for the quick reply on that. I am hearing from various people that a slightly high oil consumption is normal, like 1 litre every 2000 miles. That would strike me as being a little high.
Hi Jimmy M. From the less than scientific poll I conducted (5 people I know who own Porsches, all different models), they said they have never had to top their engine oil other than routine services. However Porsche seem to officially state some oil usage is considered acceptable (was told to check my owner’s manual for the rate of oil usage). Mileage of engine and other things are factors, but I don’t want to speculate here. Sorry can’t be of any more help. None of the people I asked had a 987 Gen 1 either.
Thanks Max revs. That is interesting. I also have an Audi 2litre TDI and find that I need to top that up from time to time with about a third of a litre of oil. Have owned that car since 2011 and it runs great in daily use. Same goes for my motorcycles, so I am fine with using maybe a third to half a litre every 5000 miles espc if the car is driven briskly
I fully agree with your general approach. If there are no major issues why worry? My previous used car (unknown to me at the time of purchase) was resprayed back and front. Someone told me the car *could* have been in a front end collision with a light shunt in the rear. The car drove fine and there were no issues with it, yet I always had a nagging doubt about that car.
Then again the previous owner/garage could have painted it just because it was looking tatty with some minor parking scuffs. Knowing it *could* have been in a small crash drove me crazy. I was better off not listening to speculation and just enjoying the car. Bit like your Cayman, it drives fine, it’s normal according to the manufacturer to use a bit of oil, so just enjoy the car.
I’ll be gettin that 987.2 2009-2010 pdk Goodbye bmw M
Would love to hear your thoughts after driving the Cayman for a while... I used to have a BMW 328Ci... nothing compared to a Porsche!
What you said ..........I whole heartedly conquer !
Comments like this made me do a slightly bonkers video. Let me know what you think?!
Porsche Cayman Review
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No mention of the gen 2 2.9 tho?
Hi, and thanks for taking the time to comment.
My main aim was to discuss why I think the Gen 2 is the “best” used car out of the bunch. Between the 2.9L and 3.4L, that’s just down to budget and preferences. Money aside, I always want more power!
No problems with my 987.1 S running now at 110000 miles
That is great to hear Sam. I have the same car as you, a 2006 with 68k miles, and so far so good. I assume you use Mobil 1 0-40w full syn, right ?? How often do you change it out ?? My motto is 5000 miles or one year, whichever comes first. Cheers
Hi Jimmy! Just came back from a 600+ mile roadtrip. I have oil information... as I was revving the car rather hardly for a prolonged period of time... my oil level went from maximum, to mid-way between max and min. Over just 2 days of vigourous driving. I checked the oil level again on the way home, and it went slightly higher, i.e. 1/4 below maximum. I learnt 2 things... 1) oil usage is heavily dependent on how much you rev the engine over a prolonger period of time, in my case, lots of 2nd and 3rd gear roads. 2) the electronic measurement system is not 100% reliable. On the same surface, I got 2 different oil readouts over a 2 minute period of time. I am guessing, maybe it takes around 2 mins from starting (the engine was proper hot beforehand anyway), for all the oil to fully circulate. Oddly, the 1st oil reading said maximum, the second reading (after oil had the chance to flow), read 50% below max. Bottom line, my engine drinks too. When you ask other drivers about their oil usage, the manner in which they rev the engine and for how long really is a big factor, given the fact I managed to consume so much oil in just 2 days and 600+ miles.
That is great Intel MR, so thanks for posting. Yes, I would expect noticeably increased oil consumption with revs, just like a plummeting fuel gauge !!! I will keep your comments in mind re the electronic measurement system for the oil levels. Of course, just like my Audi, I assume you would get a red light warning of some sort if oil levels dropped beyond a certain point, though one wants to avoid running that low. At least my bikes have an easy to see and foolproof oil level window. Cheers Jimmy
One other thing Max Revs, did you ever get that under body measurement for me ?? My car had Eibach springs fitted by the previous owner and sits lower than I would ideally like. Not much clearance with the 19 inch wheels and the bodywork, though it looks cool !!!
Jimmy M Sorry forgot about that measurement. Will do this weekend when hopefully I wash the car. Even if I don’t wash it I’ll get it done. Maybe sooner if I get home early enough.
Why ignore the 986? Too old?
That's a good question! This video was the by-product of my thought process when buying a used Cayman. On the second hand market I hardly came across any 986s. The few I saw had over 100k miles on the clock. That was TOO USED a car for me. So you're right, given how old the 986s are, they are often very used when they enter the second hand market. I wanted a new looking car hardly used, which for me is around 30k-50k miles.
Thanks for the reply... I own a 981 GTS. Love it!!
Wow!!! Seriously great car. Seriously collectable. Will check later and find out how many were made globally. Can't be that many. Respect dude👍🏼
If possible can you post a picture on the MAX REVS Facebook page?
m.facebook.com/EnjoyingLifeAndCars/
Thanks!! Yeah, I watched these cars for a while and I eventually just KNEW I needed to own a 981 before the flat 6 went away forever. When the GTS was released I decided that was the one I had to have. A friend of mind had a GT4, which is obviously better, but very raw and uncomfortable. The GTS splits the difference by being a little faster than the standard S model, but with more creature comforts like PASM and 18-way seats. When the 718 came out I had absolutely zero interest. This is my Dream Porsche.
Here's some recent pics, feel free to repost wherever you like.
www.flickr.com/photos/153757413@N04/albums/72157695958542825
Great pictures. Thanks. It's a keeper for sure!
DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST... Cayman and boxter have the same engines, the IMS issue and # 6 cylinder becoming oval because not cooled adequately- faulty engines - do not touch any of them 2007 to 1998. Thats why they are so cheap.
I must *completely* disagree with your assessment of the 718. You can't possibly have actually driven one if you believe it's "lifeless" to drive. Let's be honest, your moaning is really just about the engine sound, isn't it? The 718, with either flat 4 engine, outperforms its predecessor in every way, due to its wider, flatter torque curve. This is simply undeniable. Now if you're just talking about the 'feeling' that the engine's sound gives you, that's a very different and a very subjective matter, but if you're trying to suggest that the 718 Cayman isn't still the same brilliant driver's car it always was, I call bullsh*t.
Hi there and thanks for your comments. I just love it when people show their passion and enthusiasm, as you have with your comments. I am going to check my exact words in this video when I get a better signal on my mobile. You are bang on! It is about the engine noise from within the cabin. I used to own a Jag XFR with 500bhp. I know the 718 engine is better in all the ways an engine should be, apart from it's soul. I agree this is totally objective, and not at all scientific. So no offence intended to 718's. Just not to my musical tastes.
D LG Right, so I checked the audio transcript and it is open to interpretation... “that engine is just lifeless to me, it doesn’t communicate with you”. I am, as you have suggested, simply talking about the aural characteristics of the 4 cylinder engine.
You might want to check out our latest video featuring a 718 S driven by a pro - ua-cam.com/video/TItgSWhXWEM/v-deo.html
yes but you would thiink Porsche, being the founder(Pioneer) of turbos, would have made one that doesn't lag. there is a good 1-2 seconds of turbo lag when below 3-4k rpm, which compared to the inline 6... there is none. Many manufacturers have found ways to almost eliminate turbo lag. Also the inline 6 can handle more power, you can get 60 whp... with a few simple bolt ons without worrying about getting a tune that might harm engine life
+Kohfu
The 718 S has almost no perceptible lag, due to the twin scroll, variable vane turbo design that Porsche uses. These new advanced turbos almost eliminate the lag problem. I had the pleasure of driving a friend's 718 Cayman S for an entire day a few months back and it's an utterly spectacular car to drive. I actually prefer it over the 3.4 due to the much improved power band and it doesn't run out of breath at the top...it just keeps pulling to red line, which is amazing for a turbo. It is now more fun to drive on back roads because you don't need to wind it out to 7000 rpm to get to the power.
` Show the Damn C A R``
Me here considering to buy a new cayman 718 🤡
Sani resort halkidiki Greece
What a great place👍🏼
Cayman is not supercar man
Yeah you're right! That's why I had to add the on-screen title during editing that it's a "super car" not a "supercar". I just got carried away making that intro video. Should have said 'best sports car'!
A superb car !
On the use of the word 'supercar', this is clarified in my latest video :-)
Porsche Cayman Review
ua-cam.com/video/rOoy5gbDN8c/v-deo.html
do you own one?
Cayman is great but thinking of selling and getting Evora instead
Im currently looking for a 2007 or 2008 2.7 with a 5 speed stick ,stock wheels and tires thank you ecocar4u at yahoo
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Supercar?
Hi there, and thanks for your comment! This super car business is clarified in our latest channel intro. Take a look here:
ua-cam.com/video/5b52aEZiuVU/v-deo.html