cam install victory cross country

installing Lloydz cams in a victory cross country

[@vicspeed1068]

Hey Brother,
Awesome video! You did great in editing and explaining the important details. The Lloydz VM1 cams are insane, thanks for working me in on this install in such a timely manner.
For any viewers, this is my bike and I actually brought my laptop and uploaded a "boxed" tune I downloaded from The Vic Shop. It gave it a safe quality tune during the break in period, during which I rode it to a Victory rally in Ohio for a Dyno-tune by the man Kevin "X" Cross. I laid down 118hp/118tq on a pretty conservative dyno at almost 95°F.😁💗

[@seanmarchiny]

What exhaust do you have along with these cams? I have the vm1 cams I’m going to put in my xc. Just trying to find the time to do it, curious how much the labor is to have them installed. And how much the dyno tune was.

[@vicspeed1068]

@@seanmarchiny the install was around $300 ish. It's been a couple years and a totalled bike ago! I installed Big Gonzos exhaust which are still available from VicBaggers. The sound and performance of them is simply second to none.
Now the Dyno tune I had done at a MidWest Victory rally by the legendary KevinX, Kevin Cross of Southern Motorworx, which is no longer in business. If I build another Victory XCT, I would get a Maximus Tuner and have it remote tuned by Noe Martinez at Noemtz Designs. He is a Maximus Tuning Genius! The other option which is great for PCV or Maximus tuning and actual dyno tune is Rylan Vos at the Vic Shop in Iowa. Good luck Bro!

[@thollingsworth4910]

I just installed Lloydz cams in my 2013 steel frame. It was a job, not terribly difficult but alot to do as far as dropping the engine by myself. I think it was well worth it.

[@bryan565656]

Zip tie idea is genius!

[@Ben-gy4cx]

Very informative and good clear instructions! Well done 👌🏼

[@MsJosh4455]

I agree 💯

[@jayleav]

Best video on this by far !!!

[@brazinBrett]

thank you!

[@stretchmfe4913]

Perfect Timing! Got a set of cams for a song when a dealer was closing out. About to do the swap when I get a tuner.

[@jeffjohnson7828]

Thanks for the Video I just installed the UD pulley this past weekend on my CC , The V 413 cams are next to be put in

[@davidharkness2634]

Excellent video. Thank you for the effort in puting it together.

[@reneekrueger962]

Thank you so much for this video. My cam swap went flawlessly. Great video.

[@stubbz71]

Great How-To! Well done

[@waggitnshaggit6592]

Wow thanks and are the Andrew 413 cams as easy to install as the Lloyds? Really good video I am subscribed

[@brazinBrett]

The 413 are also a drop in cam with no modifications needed to the head. So the same procedures in the video would apply.

[@waggitnshaggit6592]

@@brazinBrett appreciate it thanks

[@sludge3587]

Awesome video, Ill be doing this project on my Judge soon. Thank you!

[@brazinBrett]

jPeter Jhakovski the process of getting to the cams will be different on the judge, but the actual replacement will be similar.

[@sludge3587]

Yes I already put the project on hold, trying to remove the rear valve cover and consulting with another professional, I realized I needed to remove the throttle body, intake and fuel lines.

[@sludge3587]

I got my cams in. Easy job but time consuming on a steel frame. This video was a big help.

[@19KILO104]

Sludge I assume I’ll have to go though the same process on my 2016 Vegas, any tips?

[@MsJosh4455]

That was an awesome video very cool... thank you for sharing as I hope to upgrade my victory as well

[@escapingthematrix3]

Thank you

[@mjsmith8641]

Ive been trying to get a shop to install some cams on my victory vision for two years and nobody in the NJ and surrounding areas will do it. Completely frustrated.

[@19KILO104]

Very good video! Thanks so much! I have a 2016 Vegas and wander if there are any things different to look out for on my model? I was thinking about the engine mount needed to be removed to drop engine down. Any info is greatly appreciated

[@nyinfamous2k2]

Looking at purchasing a Cross country with cams done. Anything I should worry about in the future? extra maintenance or things to look out for? never had a bike with Cam work done and I want to know what im getting into if I get the bike. Thanks ahead of time

[@brazinBrett]

I have not seen any long term issues or failures with cammed bikes that were done properly.no additional maintenance or worries either.

[@vicspeed1068]

I know a couple of guys and have heard from others with 30-50k and more miles on cammed Victory's. These bikes are engineered to be very efficient and with basic regular maintenance they will run as long as you want it too. I've seen several bikes with 130k+ miles and nothing but tires, oil and lube needed. Buy one and enjoy the freedom of power and dependability. 🤘😎

[@landonwcisel5285]

I just installed mine, and it sounds like it’s running off 1 cylinder, doesn’t seem like it, but it’s not snappy or anything. Any tips would be appreciated or maybe it’s just the tune I need, but it won’t even idle

[@cspencj5or7]

awesome video. thanks

[@joshsutcliffe6099]

Torque spec on valve cover bolts and cam gear bolts as well as chain tensioner.

[@brazinBrett]

valve cover: 115 in/lbs
cam gear: 120 in/lbs
chain tensioner: 55 ft/lbs

[@napster21cg]

Im.planning to change one as well... thinking of getting the lloydz 505 for my CC 2017... donigey buy just 1 or 2?? Sorry for my silly question... and also I got the maximus tuner and lloydz air filter and timing wheel is that ok?

[@brazinBrett]

typically buying a quantity of 1 from lloydz on the cams will come as a kit with both cams in it.

[@kbuck2000]

I have to ride my bike about 80 miles to a shop that has a Dyno. Will the engine be ok riding it that far after I install cams? I have an RPW pipe, lloydz air filter, and lloydz timing wheel already installed. Victory XR. Thanks!

[@justingreen4450]

Good job man. Thanks.

[@TheTomconroy]

I know I'm a little late to the party here but excellent video
Any recommendations on a good lumpy cam for these engines? I want to do it over Christmas since I'll have 6 weeks off being a professional mechanic and back to being a regular home mechanic haha

[@brazinBrett]

I haven’t experimented much with big cams in cross bikes, so I’m not much help there.

[@adamsantiago4541]

As a pro, what was the total work time for this?

[@brazinBrett]

typical time spent from loading bike on the lift to test ride is normally around the 2hr mark. can be done faster, but i normally do it in 2hrs.

[@josephhegarty1918]

Great video thank you

[@jamesmccracken4763]

Why does the cam tensioner need removed? Your not taking the chain off the upper or lower sprocket seems it maybe can be left in the bike.

[@brazinBrett]

Tensioners need to be removed because you are removing the cam gear from the cam. While yes, these are oil pressure driven tensioners, removing them from the engine makes your life a bunch easier when re installing the cam gear to the new camshaft.

[@joecader]

Do you need to replace the seals/gaskets? I'm having this done on my 17 XC and was asked if I had them. My bike has 10k on the clock.. thanks!

[@brazinBrett]

The rocker cover gaskets are a single layer metal gasket and don’t typically need replaced.
The only one I really recommend at least having on hand is the timing cover gasket.

[@seanmarchiny]

How much is the labor to install the cams?

[@billwood3180]

Where is your shop located?

[@nicholasjheinz7461]

great job!

[@bend1951]

My crank pin fell out when I had the rear cam out and the crank rotated a bit clockwise. Can I rotate the engine counterclockwise or do I have go two rotations to get back at TDC?

[@brazinBrett]

bend1951 it’s not recommended to rotate the engine backwards of its normal rotation

[@kujo7134]

I cannot find a magnet that will pull the cam in, where can I find one I am completely stuck on therearcam right now

[@brazinBrett]

The magnet I use is one I removed from a pocket screwdriver. It’s just stuck to the end of another magnet. After you find a magnet that fits inside the hole, sometimes you need to push and pull the cam a little to get the pin to wiggle out.

[@dameian1997]

Where’s you located??

[@jeffjohnson7828]

Do you happen to know what size bolt you used for where the timing gear was at to turn engine over? Thanks

[@brazinBrett]

I believe it is an m8 bolt roughly 15mm long.

[@jeffjohnson7828]

@@brazinBrett thanks

[@p.russell5597]

M8X1.25 if anyone else is curious.

[@tomedwards159]

do you need the power commander if you do a dyno tune?

[@brazinBrett]

dyno tune is done through the power commander.

[@tomedwards159]

@@brazinBrett But do you need the power commander if you have it dyno tuned? good vid by the way very informative.

[@brazinBrett]

@@tomedwards159 Yes, The power commander is how the tuning is completed.

[@dco956]

u can tell this guy knos these vic motors

[@BATMANVISION]

Hello from France.
I have a small problem with the sixth gear , it jumps and I fall back to fifth under 130km/h (80 MPH) unless I keep the selector in high position with the foot . According to the dealer it would be the pinion of the 6 which would be worn and very expensive repair 3500 € 😱 . A colleague Victorien , told me that he thought that the concern came according to him from the fork and that it would be easier to change and therefore cheaper . Do you think he is in the truth ? Thank you and long live Victory, I have been in love with My Vision since May 2011. She has 66486 miles to date. Sorry for my English, but I am obliged to pass by translation it is like me, not very young lol.

[@brazinBrett]

Both of the options you’ve given could be the problem. Regardless of which is the problem it is the same amount of labor. Unfortunately all transmission components are installed into the engine cases before any engine parts are so it will require a complete engine removal and tear down to repair properly.

[@BATMANVISION]

@@brazinBrett Ok Thank you very much .

[@edgardolopez7797]

How hard is to pry to split the frame. Been trying for days. Am I being too scared of it? Looks so easy when you do it. Please advise.

[@brazinBrett]

It should move pretty easy to begin with, but it can be difficult to get it all the way up to where a bolt will fit under the hole. If you are fighting it, something isn't right. Either you need to raise/lower the bike or need to loosen/remove other bolts.

[@edgardolopez7797]

Idk bro. Tried wheels on ground, wheels off the ground. How long is the pry bar you use? I’ve been told at least 3’. Also been told to leave the motor mount bolt. I really want to do this.

[@brazinBrett]

@@edgardolopez7797 i strap the rear of the bike to the lift, tire on the lift, put the jack near the rear of the engine by the drain plug and raise the front tire off the lift. i use a roughly 24'' pry bar. i also remove the 3 forward bolts on the frame plate and loosen the rear 2 on that plate but leave them in.

[@edgardolopez7797]

Got it open. Does the pin really needs to come out. Having a hard time finding a magnet to pull it out. I’m at a work stoppage right now due to that.
Thanks for the help so far bro. Much appreciated.

[@brazinBrett]

@@edgardolopez7797 the pin must come out. The pin keeps the cam in the cam carrier.

[@alcools5418]

Is it possible to blow the oil down and out of the oil feed and return line to avoid Head and Base gasket leaking? I understand that the gasket can take being leaked on but I would like to avoid that. Does anyone know?

[@brazinBrett]

Al Cools the gaskets are steel, I’d say even if you were to try to blow air through the system, you would still get seepage, and you would have an air pocket in the oiling systems at initial startup.

[@mrfast2win]

@@brazinBrett Do you have any worries about the gasket leaking agian after a few miles?

[@brazinBrett]

fast2win I’ve never seen one leak.

[@ralphparr6258]

Is this the same process on the Vegas?

[@brazinBrett]

The actual install of the cams is the same, however the frame doesn’t separate the same so there are other things that need done on the steel frame bikes.

[@ralphparr6258]

@@brazinBrett any helpful tips on how to do that? Looking to put the vsc/505 cams. In your opinion which do you think is better vm1/501 or vsc/505.

[@brazinBrett]

@@ralphparr6258 it is much easier if you remove the engine completely on steel frame bikes. I don't have any experience with the 505s

[@ltennyson7573]

​@@ralphparr6258 I put 505 cams in a 2016 Vegas 8-ball. If you have an aftermarket intake, you can remove that to get the rear valve cover to slide forward and then it will come out the side. The front valve cover will come out without needing to take anything else off. If you have the stock airbox, now would be a good time to look into getting an S&S or Lloydz intake.

[@velr50gt]

@@ltennyson7573 Would you still have to try move the engine down some? I have the S&S intake so no worries there. Thank you in avance.

[@thomasgustavson7352]

Hello, is it 55 ft/p og 45?? You say 55 but it says 45…….

[@brazinBrett]

45

[@thomasgustavson7352]

Shit, just overtorqued mine then! Just loosen up retorque at 45??

[@brazinBrett]

It’s probably fine. Up to you though.