I didn't realize this until I watch the TV show called Three kingdoms. Liu Bei and his brothers were Yellow Turbans 2.0 They killed so many civilians who just want a better life without heavy taxes. Liu Bei should know better than everyone since he was living in poverty throughout his life by heavy taxes from the corrupted Han government. When Cao Cao makes life easier and eliminates corruption, the puppet Han emperor secretly sends out an edict to divide Cao Cao and Liu Bei by calling him a bully and a traitor. The Han emperor even goes as far as staging a coup to kill Cao Cao. If he succeeds, he controls his army. If he failed, Cao Cao will take the blame for killing the loyal Han subjects aka co-conspirators. The never-ending civil war is guaranteed to eliminate the traitor Cao Cao. Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu knew about the Han emperor's little scheme but did nothing just to make a name for themselves. They both died trying. They never see a unified strong China until now with the CPC in 2022. Every western country wants to divide China and pillage its riches as it did in the two opium wars. Known as trading opium for tea.
@condorX2 For the record, the bit about Western countries is how China's neighbors feel about China -that it's a bully that is trying to steal their riches. Perspective is a thing.
The way you play He Yi is with the population. Instead of having all your generals in one group, separate them and create peasant armies. Cao Cao may be a mastermind, but he can't defend against 10k troops. You are either forced to invade south before Sun Jian can be really tough to kill or destroy the coalition. Killing Cao Cao and Yuan Shu should always be the priority. (Cao Cao is a headache to deal with late game and Yuan Shu has a problem with Vassalizing everyone) Also, Commerce and Industry currency are completely useless to He Yi when he can suddenly tax his faction and gain 4-5k in a single turn in the early game. (Peasantry). Huang Shao has the hardest start of them all, but can be WAY easier if you leave your capital city behind and overrun Kong Rong and Lui Bei. At that point, you just wait until you are OP and steamroll through everyone. Gong dong is actually the easiest start. Your mindset shouldn't be about "conquering", but instead "Pillaging". Go to the enemy faction's territory and sack them for all they have. Your cash cows are actually the enemy themselves. In the late game, all the generals around you should be extremely crippled with Lvl 1 villages and be infested with yellow turban rebellions (the separate AI faction)because of their Max negative satisfaction. Which are actually nice to you and do not intend to kill you. Oh and don't worry about Lu Bu at all. Place a healer against him (Not He Yi) with the healing ability. You know . . . the 30k heal.
I know it's been a few years but I had a similar experience with Huang Shao, I abandoned Dong and just marched into the Shandong Peninsula where ambushing Liu Bei repeatedly secured my borders until I could get a second army to put him on the defensive
Aye. I didn't realize this until I watch the TV show call Three kingdoms. Liu Bei and his brothers was basically Yellow Turbans 2.0 They killed so many civilians who just want a better life without heavy tax. Liu Bei should know better than everyone since he was living in poverty throughout his life by heavy tax from the corrupted Han government. When Cao Cao make life easier and eliminate corruption, the puppet Han emperor secretly send out an edict to divide between Cao Cao and Liu Bei by calling him a bully and a traitor. The Han emperor even goes as far as staging a coup to killed Cao Cao. If he succeed, he control his army. If he failed, Cao Cao will take the blame for killing the loyal Han subjects aka co-conspirators. The never ending civil war is guaranteed to eliminate the traitor Cao Cao. Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu knew about the Han emperor little scheme, but did nothing just to make a name for themselves. They both died trying. They never see a unified strong China until now with the CPC in 2022. Every western countries want to divide China and pillage their riches like they did in the two opium wars. Know as trading opium for tea.
Yay! I didn't realize this until I watch the TV show called Three kingdoms. Liu Bei and his brothers were Yellow Turbans 2.0 They killed so many civilians who just want a better life without heavy taxes. Liu Bei should know better than everyone since he was living in poverty throughout his life by heavy taxes from the corrupted Han government. When Cao Cao makes life easier and eliminates corruption, the puppet Han emperor secretly sends out an edict to divide Cao Cao and Liu Bei by calling him a bully and a traitor. The Han emperor even goes as far as staging a coup to kill Cao Cao. If he succeeds, he controls his army. If he failed, Cao Cao will take the blame for killing the loyal Han subjects aka co-conspirators. The never-ending civil war is guaranteed to eliminate the traitor Cao Cao. Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu knew about the Han emperor's little scheme but did nothing just to make a name for themselves. They both died trying. They never see a unified strong China until now with the CPC in 2022. Every western country wants to divide China and pillage its riches as it did in the two opium wars. Known as trading opium for tea.
*attacks settlement with 3000 yellow turbans* *301 yellow turbans died in battle” Lord have mercy, I heard The yellow turban rebellion caused mountains of dead people, but wow
I actually just recently beat a campaign with both of my favorite Yellow Turbans. For this "era" of the rebellion, that was Huang Shao, and boy am I proud of my success :) Even made a peasant the emperor, because why not?
I’m actually quite surprised by this. While I have played several Total War games before, I’m by no means a veteran or even particularly good. I chose Gong Du as one of my first campaigns, and it would be the first campaign I started that would even reach the three kingdoms point in a campaign. I surprisingly found great success most of the campaign. The number one asset to survive the endless onslaught is the adherence to increasing the garrison size of location I occupied. After that point, I would only engage in battle will defending a settlement, as this would practically double total units out in battle. As Gong Du, once Wudu is secured defensively, I expanded aggressively to the south first. The combination of endless garrison defense and rapid expansion allowed for Gong Du to maintain the largest faction of nearly 1/3 the map for most of the campaign. Despite Gong Du specializing in raiding/looting, I never used this once actively.
I have since posting done a run for about 80 turns with He Yi and have had similar fortune. Due to the quicker replenishment rate and the cheaper unit cost and maintenance, it is quite easy to amass an ungodly large army very early on. I am fighting the next 3 largest factions simultaneously, and somewhat offensively due to the sheer numbers. I can’t say for certain on higher difficulties, but He Yi if played this way it seems almost overpowered.
I just beat the game as He Yi. It’s best to have 3-4 armies per warlord you’re fighting. Each one with one general and the rest be captain retinues. Use one army to lose a battle but whittle down their forces and the next two to attack again with reinforcements. Then replenish for a turn and all their armies will collapse from numbers.
I just love how the Captains talk to each other! Anyway Yellow Turbans are the coolest. Also color yellow is very good choice to pick for your faction!
The fact that you cant use spies as the yellow turbans seems silly. I havent read much of the romance of the three kingdoms but from what I've learned they arent exactly against plotting
I guess the reasoning is officers ideologically motivated and therefore out themselves/are "stained" by their previous loyalties and therefore are under too much suspicion.
It’s because of the class system. Spies work by getting hired but yellow turban classes aren’t available to the rest just like the rest aren’t available to yellow turbans
Maybe because this video is a few years old...playing as He Yi or any Yellow Turbans now...is actually very broken... They've got this skill called recovery, and basically they heal over time...which means you can just cycle the generals and use them to attack. There's also a broken af general called He Man with an autocannon...not a literal one but the ability is literally as if he has an autocannon...
Agreed, I prefer this preorder or the first week of release for any preorder bonuses. It allows youtubers to review it (especially ones who do not get it early to review).
I don't know your life and I don't want to come off as harsh, but if you need to wait on your next paycheck to have 60 bucks to spare, you probably don't have 60 bucks to spare.
@@GhostRider659 Rude comment but no I just don't like spending money unnecessarily and without thought and I wait for games to be released and reviewed before purchasing but not that that's any of your business 😂
@@Wackowitz I'm sorry, really didn't want to come off as rude, just got worried when I read you mentioning having to wait on your paycheck :/ you do you buddy^^
Badass army that with Gong Du and Huang Shao in it! Loved the playthrough mate! Cheers and thank you all the detailed content you've been giving us these few months.
@No Nope the 'idea' was that if you have to put in a credit card number you're over 18, I payed once and remember thinking whytf did I do that, I'm usually zoomed out or going around the map, waste of beer money
@Cody Bonds I would love it if you would do a "new to Total war" intro for Three Kingdoms, really dumbing and slowing it down for new players (which there may be a lot!), explaining the various numbers, abilities, etc.
That's what tooltips and youtube guides are for. They have far higher priority work to take care of than to spend time on things like tutorials. In fact people already made videos detailing most these things.
Should the 2 bandit factions have a different mechanic, or at least the same Yellow Turban mechanic? It's weird that they're consider to be a "noble" faction (heck, the bandit queen even want to burn down the empire and build a new society)
So is it at all possible to recruit the people you capture as the Yellow Turbans? And vice versa is it possible to recruit Yellow Turbans generals as a regular faction? Just curious because by reading Zhan Yan's info and perks implies it might be possible
It's not possible for regular factions to have characters from the three Yellow Turban classes, and equally impossible for Yellow Turbans to have regular characters. Hence everyone choosing death.
I find Huang Shao is the most vulnerableof all the yellow turban factions. he starts off completely surrounded by like five or six factions who all automatically hate him. And two of them are Yuan Shao and Lui Bei. As an AI he gets crushed very very easily by the factions around him especially since Yaun Shao and Lui Bei are really aggressive and have really good early game. As a player it's the exact same thing you basically need to choose a direction and just keep heading in that direction until you escape the encirclement and force peace with hard won battles. I personally believe He Yi would do better in that position due to his massive replenishment rate cause you will be fighting alot of people in a short time. He Yi starts off the easiest, he has open field and tons of options towork with. Go east and take on Cao Cao, or go north to fight Lui Beiu and Yuan Shu and eventually Dong Zhou/Min, or head south to fight the easy Ai's and han empire. Gong Du has less enemies to worry about but his starting landscape is very hard to work with. With no roads and forest he has alot of movement penalties even his increased movement range can't overcome very well. But he does have the ability to get ambushes easier for this as well. I even found fighting the first army then walkingovert to the nearby yellow turban settlement and annexing it works well, cause then Ma Teng will try to go for it everytime and you can cripple him and even kill him on turn one, it's risky cause if he wins then Gong Du can die first turn but it can make things very easy. But he too can go south to fight weaker AI's and Han empire, or go west through the mountains for easy access to the capital or head north to the plains for tons of silk and a horse pasture for his calvary/horseman playstyle. So of all three I say Huang Shao is the hardest due to being entirely surrounded, you can't really just run away and set up somewhere else cause all directions have enemies who will intercept you.
I honestly do not understand the yellow turban hero classes at all. They all have 2 colours so they will buff 2 classes. And like you said the healer should be monster of a fighter but his tree is about buffing? Allso Scholar is told to be dualist but he is like comander sentinal hybrid both of who are not dualists so his best atats will not help him? And his tree is buffing archers!?! So basicly his level up tree is buffing blue units he uses violet and yellow stats and is told that he is a dualist when dualists do nead red and green? Like WTF!? HAHA
@@codybonds But honestly that makes those classes quite good in my ipinion. Because of that He Yi has reallu strong stats that combined with his buffs and debuffs can put maby dualist into early grave
Yellow turbans starting is really very hard i can imagine from this video i think they need changes why Zhang Yan cant trade with them? why not others factions with not heir like Liu Biao cant be ally or neutral factions in game? or use the neutral factions in game option of recruit their army and generals. What about pirate faction dlc starting in south there is Island? it could be good idea and they can river and sea battle option in game. They can rush to recruit Taishi Ci too from the east....
I didn't realize this until I watch the TV show called Three kingdoms. Liu Bei and his brothers were Yellow Turbans 2.0 They killed so many civilians who just want a better life without heavy taxes. Liu Bei should know better than everyone since he was living in poverty throughout his life by heavy taxes from the corrupted Han government. When Cao Cao makes life easier and eliminates corruption, the puppet Han emperor secretly sends out an edict to divide Cao Cao and Liu Bei by calling him a bully and a traitor. The Han emperor even goes as far as staging a coup to kill Cao Cao. If he succeeds, he controls his army. If he failed, Cao Cao will take the blame for killing the loyal Han subjects aka co-conspirators. The never-ending civil war is guaranteed to eliminate the traitor Cao Cao. Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu knew about the Han emperor's little scheme but did nothing just to make a name for themselves. They both died trying. They never see a unified strong China until now with the CPC in 2022. Every western country wants to divide China and pillage its riches as it did in the two opium wars. Known as trading opium for tea.
@@codybonds Here's my take: In Zheng jiang's campaign you: 1. Got to marry a Non-Faction character. 2. Were on at least speaking terms with the other warlords. 3. Very quickly became on par with other warlords in terms of military prowess. In the Yellow Turban campaign: 1 Everyone views you as nothing more than a pest to be killed. 2 Terms are dictated to you without room for negotiation. 3 you only get to issue a declaration of legitimacy AFTER the three kingdoms period has started, with all three presumably aiming for your head first. That was a very high jump in difficulty right there.
Priderice Rice the event with Dong Zhuo and Lu Bu have a starting event featuring Diao Chan... if Zhuo grabs her, Lu Bu murders him, if given away, Lu Bu stays
Nope, no normal heroes for the Yellow Turbans, and no Yellow Turbans in the normal factions. Which is why everyone refuses to join, even if historically yellow turbans often ended up serving "normal" warlords.
Apparently this dlc fonts for free even up to a week after release. So you could still see if the general public hates it/it's buggy etc and then get the dlc
Not really. The Yellow Turban rebellion isn't a secret in China, and the Communists have always styled themselves as the army and government of the people, and the Nationalist government that they chased off the mainland was a corrupt confederation of warlords. So if anything the government would probably identify with the Yellow Turbans over the other factions.
Doubling down on the above. If anything, the current party is the yellow turbans under another name and slightly different ideology. The turbans wanted the Dao/Tao principles and the Red has overlapping but not fully similar ideals.
Ah yes, the classic DLC for a game that hasn't been released yet. Because when you buy a full-price game you actually don't want the whole game, you just want a piece of it. Fuck Sega and their business model.
There is a huge problem in this game, maybe it's abug, or simply CA's heavy hand on the aging tweak. But wither way, I am sick and tired of ALL my faction leaders dying of "old age" at the age of 52... my oldest faction leader was Ma Teng, and he used to die every two turns between 52 and 61, so I had to reload the game countless times and make him do somethiong different every time before ending the turn again, hoping he will survive one more winter... it's exhausting. And I am not exagerating. They all die before reaching 58-60. And as most of them begin relatively old, most of the time, I cannot even play them at all before they die. It's ridiculous. "Old age" is 70+, not 52...!
Your problem can easily be solved by mod from steam workshop, there like 10 mods that decrease chance of dying by old age or downright make them immortal.
If you try and say "Cao Cao", if you are lucky a Chinese person wont understand you. If you are unlucky you will accidentally say "fuck fuck" by pronouncing the "C" slightly wrong.
So they didn't make the full Yellow Turban DLC because they didn't want to put effort in it and use the lack of knowledge of the players to tell them that tha is the "full DLC". The Yellow Turban rebellion begins in 184 with the brothers Zhang Jiao, Zhang Bao and Zhang Liang. This isn't a full DLC. It is just hear to throw dust in the eyes of the players by telling them taht they get a "free DLC".
It starts in 184, sure. But in 184, it wouldn't be much of a total war game. You'd just have the Han Dynasty vs the Yellow Turbans without the chaos of all the warlords pitted against each other. Wouldn't make for quite as much replayability, and it would make it even more difficult for the Yellow Turban playthroughs. Also... Why are you complaining about extra free content? Should it be paid only? Maybe Paradox style dlc instead? I get that you're trying to say that it's not much of a dlc and it's just there to entice the unsure players to buy early for the 'free content', but at least it's actually free.
@@Wolfy753 Yeah. You got my point. But what you wrote in your first parahraph isn't totally true. You would have factions like Ma Teng, Han Sui, Dong Zhuo, Ding Yuan, Liu Yao, Gongsun Zan, Sun Jian. You would have 1 city states attacking the Yellow Turbans and weakening them from all sides. They could've included story dlc's of the different factions rather than playing with some remnants who didn't even have an organised city state.
let's be honest here, when rebellion said people has the right to choose the emperor they are saying, the army will choose a few emperor candidate, and people choose from one of them (similar to US, when law said people choose someone for president, instead of choose anyone from US, they are only allowed choose ONE from TWO)
And as a point of argument. You can write in any candidate you want for president and the vote is counted. The two parties promote their choices and are far more likely to win based on public exposure and backing.
@@codybonds you can write in anyone, but we both know 1 of THE 2 will be elected, and half of the election is about THE 2 making promise to special interest group yellow turban are bandits , similar to these guerrilla force in the south america, they claim to fight for the people, but they just want to make money like everybody else
i just left chen and migrated to the kong rong's lands as he is much weaker and there is no one to fight on his east. I think He Yi might be the strongest character... ik yellow turban heroes are weak at first but in time even the simplest character becomes stronger than the actual heroes
Yea, He Yi's pop growth and replenishment rate are downright absurd. I like how the Yellow Turbans are a "long-term" oriented faction. At first, they have no diplomacy and their generals are weak due to them being hybrids making them slow to progress. Their elite units are super good though, and when you level generals up their armor is upgraded with them, and they can have over 100 xp in several attributes
Why are the voice actors English?? And the music sounds too generic and not within the ‘Chinese’ theme enough. Other than that I’m excited for this game!
Was gona buy Three Kingdoms.. then i found out i would be punished for not pre-ordering by having part of the game be cut out... Gues i wont buy it then...
If you buy the game in the first few weeks you get the DLC, otherwise you'll have to pay. It's the Chaos DLC approach from Warhammer. Kind of annoying, but there are plenty of factions that it's not that worth it if you care about filling the game out. Warhammer suffered much more because it had so little factions already.
@@seventythreedavid I don't care if it's the best DLC ever released from a company. Or if the DLC is totally unnecessary to the game, The fact is that they keep doing things like this and it makes the customer feel like a milking cow.
@@SteveJames-nn9hp I didn't justify it. I think it's scummy as well, but my point was that they don't make you feel compelled to buy it as part of the core game experience like with Chaos.
@@seventythreedavid What exactly is your point then? If you're not justifying then I don't see the logic behind bringing it up? It's like you're saying "Yeah they're being scummy but at least it's not as bad as last time!" Yeah obviously but why should I be okay with somewhat scummy? How about they make a complete finished game and do add on's later.
@@SteveJames-nn9hp My point was the base game is much better than the half baked Warhammer releases. Without the DLC it still feels complete. I don't know what you want me to say man lol. I dislike day one DLC, but I don't dislike the base game. Game is good, DLC isn't worth it. Fullstop.
Nice video, but better leave the politics out of it... None of the peasant uprising lead to democracy, at least in Chinese history. (The current government can also be classified as "peasant uprising" if you think about it. Linking those two makes no sense whatsoever, and certainly won't help with your video
It's basically the same thing. The objectives are the same. The way they play doesn't offer enough different playstyle. This game is so dam overrated, and I don't get why. Attila and wh offered a lot more replayability at release and weren't as praised. Tktw gets boring terribly fast as everything feels the same.
1st turn as yellow turbans:"well thats not as bad as they say."
a few turns later:"WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE AGAINST YELLOW!!!!!!!!!!"
🤣
I didn't realize this until I watch the TV show called Three kingdoms.
Liu Bei and his brothers were Yellow Turbans 2.0
They killed so many civilians who just want a better life without heavy taxes.
Liu Bei should know better than everyone since he was living in poverty throughout his life by heavy taxes from the corrupted Han government.
When Cao Cao makes life easier and eliminates corruption, the puppet Han emperor secretly sends out an edict to divide Cao Cao and Liu Bei by calling him a bully and a traitor.
The Han emperor even goes as far as staging a coup to kill Cao Cao. If he succeeds, he controls his army. If he failed, Cao Cao will take the blame for killing the loyal Han subjects aka co-conspirators.
The never-ending civil war is guaranteed to eliminate the traitor Cao Cao.
Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu knew about the Han emperor's little scheme but did nothing just to make a name for themselves. They both died trying. They never see a unified strong China until now with the CPC in 2022.
Every western country wants to divide China and pillage its riches as it did in the two opium wars.
Known as trading opium for tea.
@condorX2 For the record, the bit about Western countries is how China's neighbors feel about China -that it's a bully that is trying to steal their riches. Perspective is a thing.
The way you play He Yi is with the population.
Instead of having all your generals in one group, separate them and create peasant armies.
Cao Cao may be a mastermind, but he can't defend against 10k troops.
You are either forced to invade south before Sun Jian can be really tough to kill or destroy the coalition.
Killing Cao Cao and Yuan Shu should always be the priority. (Cao Cao is a headache to deal with late game and Yuan Shu has a problem with Vassalizing everyone)
Also, Commerce and Industry currency are completely useless to He Yi when he can suddenly tax his faction and gain 4-5k in a single turn in the early game. (Peasantry).
Huang Shao has the hardest start of them all, but can be WAY easier if you leave your capital city behind and overrun Kong Rong and Lui Bei. At that point, you just wait until you are OP and steamroll through everyone.
Gong dong is actually the easiest start. Your mindset shouldn't be about "conquering", but instead "Pillaging". Go to the enemy faction's territory and sack them for all they have. Your cash cows are actually the enemy themselves. In the late game, all the generals around you should be extremely crippled with Lvl 1 villages and be infested with yellow turban rebellions (the separate AI faction)because of their Max negative satisfaction.
Which are actually nice to you and do not intend to kill you.
Oh and don't worry about Lu Bu at all. Place a healer against him (Not He Yi) with the healing ability. You know . . . the 30k heal.
and be ready to fight basically every battle for the first 50 turns.
I know it's been a few years but I had a similar experience with Huang Shao, I abandoned Dong and just marched into the Shandong Peninsula where ambushing Liu Bei repeatedly secured my borders until I could get a second army to put him on the defensive
Aye.
I didn't realize this until I watch the TV show call Three kingdoms.
Liu Bei and his brothers was basically Yellow Turbans 2.0
They killed so many civilians who just want a better life without heavy tax.
Liu Bei should know better than everyone since he was living in poverty throughout his life by heavy tax from the corrupted Han government.
When Cao Cao make life easier and eliminate corruption, the puppet Han emperor secretly send out an edict to divide between Cao Cao and Liu Bei by calling him a bully and a traitor.
The Han emperor even goes as far as staging a coup to killed Cao Cao. If he succeed, he control his army. If he failed, Cao Cao will take the blame for killing the loyal Han subjects aka co-conspirators.
The never ending civil war is guaranteed to eliminate the traitor Cao Cao.
Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu knew about the Han emperor little scheme, but did nothing just to make a name for themselves. They both died trying. They never see a unified strong China until now with the CPC in 2022.
Every western countries want to divide China and pillage their riches like they did in the two opium wars.
Know as trading opium for tea.
Thank you for your wise insight.
here comes the ikko ikki version 2.0
Actually so far from the truth that it hurts. Kind of wish there were something like ikko ikko in tw3k
Yay!
I didn't realize this until I watch the TV show called Three kingdoms.
Liu Bei and his brothers were Yellow Turbans 2.0
They killed so many civilians who just want a better life without heavy taxes.
Liu Bei should know better than everyone since he was living in poverty throughout his life by heavy taxes from the corrupted Han government.
When Cao Cao makes life easier and eliminates corruption, the puppet Han emperor secretly sends out an edict to divide Cao Cao and Liu Bei by calling him a bully and a traitor.
The Han emperor even goes as far as staging a coup to kill Cao Cao. If he succeeds, he controls his army. If he failed, Cao Cao will take the blame for killing the loyal Han subjects aka co-conspirators.
The never-ending civil war is guaranteed to eliminate the traitor Cao Cao.
Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu knew about the Han emperor's little scheme but did nothing just to make a name for themselves. They both died trying. They never see a unified strong China until now with the CPC in 2022.
Every western country wants to divide China and pillage its riches as it did in the two opium wars.
Known as trading opium for tea.
A small correction: needing to defeat three would-be emperors instead of the usual two would be 50% more, not 33% more. #Math
You're right. Thankfully I don't teach math.
*attacks settlement with 3000 yellow turbans*
*301 yellow turbans died in battle”
Lord have mercy, I heard The yellow turban rebellion caused mountains of dead people, but wow
You need to break enemy bones before you can heal them. Sound's like healer to me.
If its all the same, I think I'll take that duel now
19:00 rip Xiahou Dun
And I got an achievement by shooting at him with archers in the battle.
you're the one who made him hurt his eyes lol
He ate his other eye. It didn't turn out well.
I actually just recently beat a campaign with both of my favorite Yellow Turbans. For this "era" of the rebellion, that was Huang Shao, and boy am I proud of my success :)
Even made a peasant the emperor, because why not?
Subscribed. You're thorough explanation and excellent script are well worth that and more. Thank you for the content :)
I’m actually quite surprised by this. While I have played several Total War games before, I’m by no means a veteran or even particularly good. I chose Gong Du as one of my first campaigns, and it would be the first campaign I started that would even reach the three kingdoms point in a campaign. I surprisingly found great success most of the campaign. The number one asset to survive the endless onslaught is the adherence to increasing the garrison size of location I occupied. After that point, I would only engage in battle will defending a settlement, as this would practically double total units out in battle. As Gong Du, once Wudu is secured defensively, I expanded aggressively to the south first. The combination of endless garrison defense and rapid expansion allowed for Gong Du to maintain the largest faction of nearly 1/3 the map for most of the campaign. Despite Gong Du specializing in raiding/looting, I never used this once actively.
I have since posting done a run for about 80 turns with He Yi and have had similar fortune. Due to the quicker replenishment rate and the cheaper unit cost and maintenance, it is quite easy to amass an ungodly large army very early on. I am fighting the next 3 largest factions simultaneously, and somewhat offensively due to the sheer numbers. I can’t say for certain on higher difficulties, but He Yi if played this way it seems almost overpowered.
I just beat the game as He Yi. It’s best to have 3-4 armies per warlord you’re fighting. Each one with one general and the rest be captain retinues.
Use one army to lose a battle but whittle down their forces and the next two to attack again with reinforcements. Then replenish for a turn and all their armies will collapse from numbers.
😂🤘
8.5 for battle tactics in the fight, you maximized the utility out of your troops, bet coming in afterwards and wiping Cao Cao felt good.
I just love how the Captains talk to each other! Anyway Yellow Turbans are the coolest. Also color yellow is very good choice to pick for your faction!
The fact that you cant use spies as the yellow turbans seems silly. I havent read much of the romance of the three kingdoms but from what I've learned they arent exactly against plotting
I guess the reasoning is officers ideologically motivated and therefore out themselves/are "stained" by their previous loyalties and therefore are under too much suspicion.
@Zetarn yeah I guess that's fair
It’s because of the class system. Spies work by getting hired but yellow turban classes aren’t available to the rest just like the rest aren’t available to yellow turbans
I was expecting the scholar class to be part strategist.
What're you on about the scholar ofcourse charges headfirst into duals and fights it's unlikely to win :P
I love your battles! Best battles are found here. Wish other UA-camrs had your strategy and commitment to understanding the setting!
Maybe because this video is a few years old...playing as He Yi or any Yellow Turbans now...is actually very broken...
They've got this skill called recovery, and basically they heal over time...which means you can just cycle the generals and use them to attack.
There's also a broken af general called He Man with an autocannon...not a literal one but the ability is literally as if he has an autocannon...
I get paid the 25th so really appreciate the weeks bonus time to buy and still get the DLC included 🙏
Agreed, I prefer this preorder or the first week of release for any preorder bonuses. It allows youtubers to review it (especially ones who do not get it early to review).
@@nicholaswilkowski632 Yeah exactly and we can get a good impression of the game and then make an educated decision about our purchase
I don't know your life and I don't want to come off as harsh, but if you need to wait on your next paycheck to have 60 bucks to spare, you probably don't have 60 bucks to spare.
@@GhostRider659 Rude comment but no I just don't like spending money unnecessarily and without thought and I wait for games to be released and reviewed before purchasing but not that that's any of your business 😂
@@Wackowitz I'm sorry, really didn't want to come off as rude, just got worried when I read you mentioning having to wait on your paycheck :/ you do you buddy^^
I wonder if there will be a Nanman DLC
that would be quality
i hope it so.
this will be the return of the elephants to total war too.
yes
yes indeed
You are the Messiah
This is great content!
Very in-depth and entertaining overview.
so yellow turbans bandit queen and jin the bandit king best team ever
Badass army that with Gong Du and Huang Shao in it! Loved the playthrough mate! Cheers and thank you all the detailed content you've been giving us these few months.
So excited to play this game ! Hope we get the Blood DLC within the first month of release!
@No Nope Because it's CA and there's money to be made obviously.
@No Nope the 'idea' was that if you have to put in a credit card number you're over 18, I payed once and remember thinking whytf did I do that, I'm usually zoomed out or going around the map, waste of beer money
Many factions share the same uniform colors.
Ma Teng-Liu Biao
Gongsun Zan-Sun Jian
Luckly modders can tune that to personal taste
Isn’t that just based on their class? Vanguard - strategist
@@bryanb2886 for charakters yes but for normal units there is a faction color
@Zetarn historical details aside TW didnt alsways care that much about that when it came to faction colorsas they are a helpful game design
Excellent overview again! Well done.
@Cody Bonds I would love it if you would do a "new to Total war" intro for Three Kingdoms, really dumbing and slowing it down for new players (which there may be a lot!), explaining the various numbers, abilities, etc.
I second this motion. All those in favour say aye!
That's what tooltips and youtube guides are for. They have far higher priority work to take care of than to spend time on things like tutorials. In fact people already made videos detailing most these things.
@@Auso572 LOL Did you think my request, which was tagged @Cody Bonds was directed to Creative Assembly?
@@nofaith2544 Welll... it's rather the thumbnail and calm voice that seemed very CA-like that made me assume that without thought, sorry.
Your request has been noted. If this gains enough traction I'll find a newbie to introduce it to.
Wut, Boss Dong is alive at Turn 70? Lu Bu failed? lol
The event deciding this is random, I think it keeps Lu Bu loyal with one of the outcomes.
@@Auso572 Yea you either give him Diao Chan or take her for yourself. Take her and Dong dies, give her away Lu Bu is loyal.
"Recruitable Yellow Turbans and normal characters for Yellow Turbans" mod is needed on day 0
Should the 2 bandit factions have a different mechanic, or at least the same Yellow Turban mechanic? It's weird that they're consider to be a "noble" faction (heck, the bandit queen even want to burn down the empire and build a new society)
Can't wait to peasant spam with 4 full stack armies against my enemies!
Gorilla Warfare. Lovely. I bet Gong Du also has over 300 confirmed kills.
Perfect for the "This is total war" achievement
Wait isn't the green class called Champions the 1v1 specialist. Not Guardians
Yep. Misremembrance on my part.
Really love your videos very informative and entertaining.
I just realized that the yellow turban her colors form a yin yang
On the thumbnail? I was trying to be subtle with it. Good eye!
They support the dao/tao depending on person you speak to
That battle was badass and a noble defeat. That was fun to watch.
So after all the yellow turban factions get destroyed the leaders can join you aswell?
Yep. Though if they're executed I suppose they wouldn't be able to.
@@codybonds Nice that will make it more interesting imo
So is it at all possible to recruit the people you capture as the Yellow Turbans? And vice versa is it possible to recruit Yellow Turbans generals as a regular faction? Just curious because by reading Zhan Yan's info and perks implies it might be possible
It's not possible for regular factions to have characters from the three Yellow Turban classes, and equally impossible for Yellow Turbans to have regular characters. Hence everyone choosing death.
@@Teonod damn thats too bad considering what happened historically. Oh well
Sounds like something that should be fairly easy to change through mods.
@@Auso572 truth
yellow turban seems the funniest faction to play to me
Sunjian killed 500 of my peasants in a single seige battle btw,
A sentinel is a hero who can hold off enemy melee units for a long time. Unless that sentinel is Sun Jian, then he kills them instead.
Lets say, if you play gongdu, after heyi and huangshao got rekt you can hire them as your.generals(if they survived and appears in the candidate pool)
My He Yi campaign has been fan-fucking-tastic so far!
thank you cody
I find Huang Shao is the most vulnerableof all the yellow turban factions. he starts off completely surrounded by like five or six factions who all automatically hate him. And two of them are Yuan Shao and Lui Bei. As an AI he gets crushed very very easily by the factions around him especially since Yaun Shao and Lui Bei are really aggressive and have really good early game. As a player it's the exact same thing you basically need to choose a direction and just keep heading in that direction until you escape the encirclement and force peace with hard won battles. I personally believe He Yi would do better in that position due to his massive replenishment rate cause you will be fighting alot of people in a short time.
He Yi starts off the easiest, he has open field and tons of options towork with. Go east and take on Cao Cao, or go north to fight Lui Beiu and Yuan Shu and eventually Dong Zhou/Min, or head south to fight the easy Ai's and han empire.
Gong Du has less enemies to worry about but his starting landscape is very hard to work with. With no roads and forest he has alot of movement penalties even his increased movement range can't overcome very well. But he does have the ability to get ambushes easier for this as well. I even found fighting the first army then walkingovert to the nearby yellow turban settlement and annexing it works well, cause then Ma Teng will try to go for it everytime and you can cripple him and even kill him on turn one, it's risky cause if he wins then Gong Du can die first turn but it can make things very easy. But he too can go south to fight weaker AI's and Han empire, or go west through the mountains for easy access to the capital or head north to the plains for tons of silk and a horse pasture for his calvary/horseman playstyle.
So of all three I say Huang Shao is the hardest due to being entirely surrounded, you can't really just run away and set up somewhere else cause all directions have enemies who will intercept you.
taiwan my friend.
I honestly do not understand the yellow turban hero classes at all. They all have 2 colours so they will buff 2 classes. And like you said the healer should be monster of a fighter but his tree is about buffing? Allso Scholar is told to be dualist but he is like comander sentinal hybrid both of who are not dualists so his best atats will not help him? And his tree is buffing archers!?! So basicly his level up tree is buffing blue units he uses violet and yellow stats and is told that he is a dualist when dualists do nead red and green? Like WTF!? HAHA
The colors they picked to represent them make no sense. As you said, the skills run counter to how you think they should play.
@@codybonds But honestly that makes those classes quite good in my ipinion. Because of that He Yi has reallu strong stats that combined with his buffs and debuffs can put maby dualist into early grave
well played sir, well played
why is his name pronounced "Her" is there something about the chinese pronunciation im not aware of
I copied the pronunciation from the game. I've given up trying to figure out the tonalities and just mimic knowledgeable people.
It seems the ai is dumb with the cav again :(
He Play on normal
For this campaign yes. Generally everyone had agreed the AI has improved though.
Great video!
Thank you! These take longer than I'll admit to make.
great vid
Now we need the Lu Bu DLC.
Yellow turbans starting is really very hard i can imagine from this video i think they need changes why Zhang Yan cant trade with them? why not others factions with not heir like Liu Biao cant be ally or neutral factions in game? or use the neutral factions in game option of recruit their army and generals. What about pirate faction dlc starting in south there is Island? it could be good idea and they can river and sea battle option in game. They can rush to recruit Taishi Ci too from the east....
That feel when you execute their most loyal generals/heir, because fuck them for fighting against you
I see they have recycled the same tired battle chat! Swords at the ready!
I didn't realize this until I watch the TV show called Three kingdoms.
Liu Bei and his brothers were Yellow Turbans 2.0
They killed so many civilians who just want a better life without heavy taxes.
Liu Bei should know better than everyone since he was living in poverty throughout his life by heavy taxes from the corrupted Han government.
When Cao Cao makes life easier and eliminates corruption, the puppet Han emperor secretly sends out an edict to divide Cao Cao and Liu Bei by calling him a bully and a traitor.
The Han emperor even goes as far as staging a coup to kill Cao Cao. If he succeeds, he controls his army. If he failed, Cao Cao will take the blame for killing the loyal Han subjects aka co-conspirators.
The never-ending civil war is guaranteed to eliminate the traitor Cao Cao.
Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu knew about the Han emperor's little scheme but did nothing just to make a name for themselves. They both died trying. They never see a unified strong China until now with the CPC in 2022.
Every western country wants to divide China and pillage its riches as it did in the two opium wars.
Known as trading opium for tea.
Yellow Sky Mandate so like proto democracy
My Freedom was tingling as I played them.
@@codybonds Here's my take:
In Zheng jiang's campaign you:
1. Got to marry a Non-Faction character.
2. Were on at least speaking terms with the other warlords.
3. Very quickly became on par with other warlords in terms of military prowess.
In the Yellow Turban campaign:
1 Everyone views you as nothing more than a pest to be killed.
2 Terms are dictated to you without room for negotiation.
3 you only get to issue a declaration of legitimacy AFTER the three kingdoms period has started, with all three presumably aiming for your head first.
That was a very high jump in difficulty right there.
Three Kingdoms is generally harder. Whatever difficulty you normally play as, I'd honestly recommend starting a level lower.
@@codybonds you played this on a harder difficulty?
I normally do Hard/Hard or Hard/Normal. The yellow Turbans reminded me of Tehenauin it was so difficult even on normal.
Yo in my campaign as gong du Huang shao yoinked yuan shao's seat
Oh yeah, Yellow Turban......YOU FLAMING IDIOTS!!!! FEEL THE POWER OF MY MAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKKKKKKK
HAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT'S WITH THE ENGRISH VOCALISATIONS FOR THE CHARACTER SPEECHES?!
Hey man, great video as usual! Are you gonna do a Liu Bei video?
They just released his trailer I was waiting for to make his Warlord Legend video. So he moves to the top of the pile!
Hey catching back up on the dlc. Trying 2 keep up.
Two big releases this close together I feel like all I'm doing is covering Total War.
@@codybonds Know you been Working Hard. That's why I stand behind you, cuz i got your back. Happy Release Date. Haha
Green Champion not Guardian
Looks amazing
Lol how did Dong Zhuo survive to his 70s
Priderice Rice the event with Dong Zhuo and Lu Bu have a starting event featuring Diao Chan... if Zhuo grabs her, Lu Bu murders him, if given away, Lu Bu stays
I hope there are subtitles for the chinese voice over. I want to hear them speaking chinese and still understand whats going on.
There are
There are.
Will there be any gameplay options or mechanics closed to those who don't buy the DLC? Thanks.
The scholar healer and veteran hybrid classes are DLC exclusive as well as the factions themselves. The rest is all in the base game.
@@codybonds Thanks Cody Bonds. The desperate scramble for territory in the post-Yellow Turban rebellion is what really interests me.
All you need is Ji infantry
I bought the game at 23rd but I can't download the dlc. Have anyone the same problem?
DLC at release is not DLC, it's making people pay for something they already paid for!
You know you can get it for free if you buy it within 7 days of the release right?
Can non-yellow turbans recruit generals of the classes introduced in the dlc?
Nope, no normal heroes for the Yellow Turbans, and no Yellow Turbans in the normal factions. Which is why everyone refuses to join, even if historically yellow turbans often ended up serving "normal" warlords.
@@Teonod Ah, right, sorry- I know the *heroes* can't cross over, but will you see normal heroes using the dlc *classes* and vice versa
@@horngeek9115 Nope, which is too bad
@@Teonod Honestly I do really hope that gets changed at some point, yeah.
Yes finally i know why i baught it early
Apparently this dlc fonts for free even up to a week after release. So you could still see if the general public hates it/it's buggy etc and then get the dlc
That's brave, I would personally not have taken the bet on this one.
Rise up!
Good point about the Red Chinese reviews, I'd guess the censors will ban this "dangerous content" in short order.
Not really. The Yellow Turban rebellion isn't a secret in China, and the Communists have always styled themselves as the army and government of the people, and the Nationalist government that they chased off the mainland was a corrupt confederation of warlords.
So if anything the government would probably identify with the Yellow Turbans over the other factions.
Doubling down on the above. If anything, the current party is the yellow turbans under another name and slightly different ideology. The turbans wanted the Dao/Tao principles and the Red has overlapping but not fully similar ideals.
Ah yes, the classic DLC for a game that hasn't been released yet. Because when you buy a full-price game you actually don't want the whole game, you just want a piece of it.
Fuck Sega and their business model.
that battle against Cao Cao was bad. you could have won
There is a huge problem in this game, maybe it's abug, or simply CA's heavy hand on the aging tweak. But wither way, I am sick and tired of ALL my faction leaders dying of "old age" at the age of 52... my oldest faction leader was Ma Teng, and he used to die every two turns between 52 and 61, so I had to reload the game countless times and make him do somethiong different every time before ending the turn again, hoping he will survive one more winter... it's exhausting. And I am not exagerating. They all die before reaching 58-60. And as most of them begin relatively old, most of the time, I cannot even play them at all before they die. It's ridiculous. "Old age" is 70+, not 52...!
Your problem can easily be solved by mod from steam workshop, there like 10 mods that decrease chance of dying by old age or downright make them immortal.
If you try and say "Cao Cao", if you are lucky a Chinese person wont understand you. If you are unlucky you will accidentally say "fuck fuck" by pronouncing the "C" slightly wrong.
They should make the Han playable
They are! You unlock Dong Zhuo once you beat the game the first time
So they didn't make the full Yellow Turban DLC because they didn't want to put effort in it and use the lack of knowledge of the players to tell them that tha is the "full DLC". The Yellow Turban rebellion begins in 184 with the brothers Zhang Jiao, Zhang Bao and Zhang Liang. This isn't a full DLC. It is just hear to throw dust in the eyes of the players by telling them taht they get a "free DLC".
It starts in 184, sure. But in 184, it wouldn't be much of a total war game. You'd just have the Han Dynasty vs the Yellow Turbans without the chaos of all the warlords pitted against each other. Wouldn't make for quite as much replayability, and it would make it even more difficult for the Yellow Turban playthroughs.
Also... Why are you complaining about extra free content? Should it be paid only? Maybe Paradox style dlc instead? I get that you're trying to say that it's not much of a dlc and it's just there to entice the unsure players to buy early for the 'free content', but at least it's actually free.
@@Wolfy753 Yeah. You got my point. But what you wrote in your first parahraph isn't totally true. You would have factions like Ma Teng, Han Sui, Dong Zhuo, Ding Yuan, Liu Yao, Gongsun Zan, Sun Jian. You would have 1 city states attacking the Yellow Turbans and weakening them from all sides.
They could've included story dlc's of the different factions rather than playing with some remnants who didn't even have an organised city state.
Is it worth a bu
let's be honest here, when rebellion said people has the right to choose the emperor
they are saying, the army will choose a few emperor candidate, and people choose from one of them
(similar to US, when law said people choose someone for president, instead of choose anyone from US, they are only allowed choose ONE from TWO)
Are you saying they might not have gone into this with the noblest intentions?
And as a point of argument. You can write in any candidate you want for president and the vote is counted. The two parties promote their choices and are far more likely to win based on public exposure and backing.
@@codybonds you can write in anyone, but we both know 1 of THE 2 will be elected, and half of the election is about THE 2 making promise to special interest group
yellow turban are bandits , similar to these guerrilla force in the south america, they claim to fight for the people, but they just want to make money like everybody else
i just left chen and migrated to the kong rong's lands as he is much weaker and there is no one to fight on his east. I think He Yi might be the strongest character... ik yellow turban heroes are weak at first but in time even the simplest character becomes stronger than the actual heroes
Yea, He Yi's pop growth and replenishment rate are downright absurd. I like how the Yellow Turbans are a "long-term" oriented faction. At first, they have no diplomacy and their generals are weak due to them being hybrids making them slow to progress. Their elite units are super good though, and when you level generals up their armor is upgraded with them, and they can have over 100 xp in several attributes
Do a video about liu bei
Just finished writing it.
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😂😂 „yellow turban dlc“ ?? Never heard of it (whispers to man standing behind him: „off with his head“)
DLC for a game that hasnt been released yet, in fact has release delayed because of the lack of the development, lol
I love the video all together, but you made one cardinal sin...you didn't use Chinese voice over.
this SHOULD NOT be dlc at all, or at least paid dlc. its amazing so many in the community dont care about that fact.
You get it free if you get it in the first week of release
@@QianBing but then you'd have to pay for it after 7 days...
Its a pre order bonus.
@@Robin...222 still doesnt help dude. its impossible to defend this day 1 dlc.
@@nostradamusofgames5508 i dont defend it. I only say its a pre order bonus or first week bonus.
Why are the voice actors English?? And the music sounds too generic and not within the ‘Chinese’ theme enough.
Other than that I’m excited for this game!
There is a Chinese vocalization option.
@@codybonds Awesome, will check it out!
Was gona buy Three Kingdoms.. then i found out i would be punished for not pre-ordering by having part of the game be cut out... Gues i wont buy it then...
Your "S"s are too sharp, hurts the ears lol
I noticed that too and put a DeEsher filter on. Even that didn't help. Any suggestions for future videos?
I'm sorry DLC what?
Didn't this game JUST get released.
Wtf??
If you buy the game in the first few weeks you get the DLC, otherwise you'll have to pay. It's the Chaos DLC approach from Warhammer. Kind of annoying, but there are plenty of factions that it's not that worth it if you care about filling the game out. Warhammer suffered much more because it had so little factions already.
@@seventythreedavid I don't care if it's the best DLC ever released from a company. Or if the DLC is totally unnecessary to the game, The fact is that they keep doing things like this and it makes the customer feel like a milking cow.
@@SteveJames-nn9hp I didn't justify it. I think it's scummy as well, but my point was that they don't make you feel compelled to buy it as part of the core game experience like with Chaos.
@@seventythreedavid What exactly is your point then? If you're not justifying then I don't see the logic behind bringing it up? It's like you're saying "Yeah they're being scummy but at least it's not as bad as last time!" Yeah obviously but why should I be okay with somewhat scummy? How about they make a complete finished game and do add on's later.
@@SteveJames-nn9hp My point was the base game is much better than the half baked Warhammer releases. Without the DLC it still feels complete. I don't know what you want me to say man lol. I dislike day one DLC, but I don't dislike the base game. Game is good, DLC isn't worth it. Fullstop.
... The game isn't even out yet and there's already DLC for it? Isn't DLC supposed to be like... /extra/ content?
It's a pre-order bonus
thje ui for this game looks so ugly man but fuck i wont let that stop me from playing
You think too much with that comment about the Chinese gaming review board's view on 'peasant uprising' and 'democratic monarchy' lol
Nice video, but better leave the politics out of it...
None of the peasant uprising lead to democracy, at least in Chinese history. (The current government can also be classified as "peasant uprising" if you think about it. Linking those two makes no sense whatsoever, and certainly won't help with your video
I see the joke didn't translate.
@@codybonds oh my bad if you were joking XD sry then was taking this a bit seriously
No worries. This is an entertainment and history channel. I leave politics to the politicians.
It's basically the same thing. The objectives are the same. The way they play doesn't offer enough different playstyle. This game is so dam overrated, and I don't get why. Attila and wh offered a lot more replayability at release and weren't as praised. Tktw gets boring terribly fast as everything feels the same.
first here
NJD3108 no
THERE'S ALREADY A DLC!?!?!? CUT CONTENT ALERT!!!!! WARNING DO NOT APPROACH.
Wished he would've made it funny.... :(