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Your work was the bomb dude, I don't understand as much about painting but anyone can see how much you care for these figures. I'm an 3d artist and one thing that I learned was that, not everyone is an artist but everyone is a critic, awesome work
I was quite shocked :D after a while i starter making sense, You were a bit odd :) Also starting up with such high end reference masę me treat You as if u knew nothing (makes sense though) but it forced me to adress You like a semi-crazy person :D
@@brushlickerstudio28 Hahaha, yeah - it was a tough one. Didn't want to give away anything either. But really great paint job, i think you delivered way over what i payed you, so i'm super happy! And really your portfolio is ace, you've got mad skill bruh!
I think the reason you got red and cold yellow rather than orange is that's the actual colours of the Imperial Fists and it might have thrown the artists off a bit. Interesting video, good idea to see how people do the same task differently.
Well who the hell want black rims, black bolter and black chest eagle. You made a bad order and i fixed it for you! Thanks for the kind words man. I will think of a way to reply!
I used to work for GW, I had a lot of fun teaching others to paint, from the basics to advanced. I thought about charging to paint miniatures, however, for medical reasons I have trouble keeping my hands steady now. I really miss being able to fully enjoy the hobby. I am going to check out more of your content.
There’s techniques to help prevent shaking. A solid box used to prop your hands seems to be the most successful. Talk to your doctor as well, they may be able to prescribe something to help.
Honestly, I like #1 -- especially when you factor in price. I think the blue on the sword, and the red helmet just gives a really good artistic pop to the models, to go along with the stellar paint job.
I'm DevPaints. I really regret not doing this project, as I'm a big fan. I was trying to be fair to both of us. Between international shipping and Fiverrs cut, I was going to be making peanuts and at the same time charging you a whole bunch for just one miniature. I had no way to know it was you, would have been great exposure :(
@@SquidmarMiniatures I'd love that, Emil. You got some great results. I definitely feel I would have held my own though :D Hopefully there's another chance down the road!
I'm a new painter (have done ~10 minis) and this is the first time I see somebody other than myself paint one (never really looked at reference pics either). I was getting proud of what I was doing, that's gone. Y'all are too good
@@KingLoth All over the place, facebook is a good place to start. There are lots of 40k groups there. Upload videos of your minis on youtube too. Anywhere you can upload images and videos of your minis you can usually get feedback If you do upload anything, send me a link. I love seeing miniatures
@@LazyManHobbies I paint DnD figurines, but it's pretty much the same thing. Here's a link to some pictures I just took, I hope you can see some details: drive.google.com/open?id=1Mm7PETR9frSoVArrEOFpi0tMP44ZmZCE
@get rekt those are painters who do this for money. If they weren't this how video couldn't be possible. And what is so entitled about his behaviour? He shows them what he wants, they decide if they can make it, then they talk about money. Then the product doesn't come as you talked about it.
I've never watched any miniature-related nor painting-related video in my life but here I am, discovering a really cool corner of youtube thanks to the mighty algorithm
I'm amazed by the prices on some of these. I remember at my LGS there was a guy who painted everyone's DnD miniatures, and he even made his own custom bases with railroad grass and rocks and such to make it more realistic, and that was $10, but that was back in like 1998. I wouldn't expect that these days for less than $20-30
FR tho, the highlights were amazingly done and when placed next to each other it did have a bit of a orange sheen to the yellow. Only guy on the lineup I would actually buy from
I think for all the artists involved it really gives them a baseline as to what their competitors are doing and the quality of work they are actually sending out for the price. I think in future videos you might want to reference their work back to their samples at the same price point (if available) and see if it exceeds, matches, or is below their examples.
No way, man. Consider your time and materials. How much do you make an hour at your job? Or how much does a normal person make? How long does it take you to paint a mini? If it's an hour, you should be charging at least what you make an hour. Plus paints. Get what your time is worth. You can take off a little bit if they are a friend or you REALLY wanna take a job, but you cant get screwed for your time.
There is a reason why most people only put in the hours on their lords and monsters and basicaly only drybrushes the regular soldiers. It's the time, and if someone wants their soldiers to have the same detail as their lords and monsters then they either put in the time or pay someone else to put in the time. I kinda lost my chain of thought there.. but the point is, if you want a deluxe lord dont just pay for soldier quality. And you shouldnt paint deluxe quality on people who is paying you to paint their soldiers. Even tho it's painfull not to give every mini your full skill. No, if you only get payed 7.50 id say you owe them clean paint, clean lines, basic shade and basic highlight. No gem facetes, no glass lenses, directional lights, battle scars, or rust (beyond maybe using texture pains. But that's maybe). If someone were to pay you 50 dollar, then you could give them the whole package, but then you should also have the skill to justify the price.
Fiverr takes way too much. There has to be something better for the artists. Also idea for a colab: make a big diorama, and every artist contributes with one model.
It's a fair commission. If you think it's not, then you're using the platform wrong. Bear in mind that Fiverr doesn't get commission on any repeat business, only the first order.
If it's too much then good luck finding clients on your own, lol. Also consider that fiverr at core is meant for digital work, so it does not need shipping fee.
I mean fiverr is okay as a networking site. Find someone on there, like their work or inversely them as a customer and then start doing things via paypal/check/other method. That 25% is to cover creating the platform, fraud protection, work integrity and other things. I dont "Agree' with that cut but I also think that people should be looking to abandon the site asap once they get a little networking done.
I recon the best one was the first package you opened, by Victor. I agree that the one you rated matched the tones of the reference picture better. But I prefer the way Victor has highlighted and shaded. The others were great and really neat but I dig that grim dark look. And consider he actually pulled that off for the price he was paid, compared to your friends who knew they were getting the video exposure. That was kick ass effort!
Huge probs to all these painters for delivering a fully painted yellow model. Personally, I would rather eat an entire bowl of shattered glass than paint a fully yellow mini.
Yeah. Miniature painting really confuses me sometimes. "Give me Imperial Fists." *is given orange marines* or edge highlight with brighter versions of the base colour unless it's black in which case you edge with blue?
i think the point of the pro painter's color choices was that the light reflections from the environment (that the bases represented) were making the armor look orangeish, along with the armor having a dust layer on it.
Maybe they put Turtle Wax on their armour that morning (for parade, obvs), and now they are fighting next to a huge inferno? Or maybe their armour was placed in the all-yellow laundry basket, but an orange sock got mixed up in the pile? The laundry guy is clearly a heretic.
Been painting minis for a few months now with the same 10 bottles of paint that i mix together and 2 brushes. Ive had some great results and a lot of fun. Did a few for free for the players in my DnD campaign, and have thought "maybe I should charge money for this?" I found your video very helpful. It showed me buyer expectations and pricing guidelines. Thank you!
@@crewealex1125 You have to do a lot of painting to get any good usually. Buy some cheap army men from the dollar store and try some different things and see what works for you.
Your model looks really close to the original design. I love it. I do agree with you on your favourites they were really good but I think yours would definitely be in my top 3.
that yellow highlight on the 2nd model does not go with the yellow underneath, this is why you need to mix colours. Your base is the best, but I think Emil Hurtig nailed it.
I suppose he shouldn't have even mentioned "Imperial Fists" if his reference had wrong colors. Imperial Fists are yellow and red, not orange and black.
im super happy i found this video. It has been years since i painted 40k figures. I have been looking for a hobby again and I think you helped me re-discover one I used to love.
I literally find WC boring but this guys voice is so relaxing. His tone, pitch and accent make me feel so relaxed. And seeing a cute little baby as-well. Endorphins have most definitely even released 😁
"This guy knows how to do business!" The guy who asks for $25 Fiverr takes 25% - left with $19 pays for shipping from pocket, -$15, left with $4 pays for paint materials, lets say he only uses $3 worth of materials. gets paid a whopping $1 for his effort and work that doesn't even really cover for the time talking with you let alone actual paint job and skill. yeah, flawless business strategy. The only person here with business sense is Devpaints :"3
The whole discipline seems so underpaid, I don't know how anyone can make a decent living at it unless they live somewhere extremely cheap. Even the guy charging $100, his hourly rate was still probably low.
Very true. I understand that squidmar wants to settle for a low price and that includes all shipping, etc. But the artists work time is extremely underpaid in these offers. Squidmar kind of makes fun of the artist describing himself as passionate, but I think you can only do these offers if you are really passionate about doing them and painting them just for the fun, because the prices are never fair at this level.
@@christophercant It is underpaid because other artists dont value they work. You will find someone that will make that cheaper or for him it is a hobby etc.
@Lemazive They didnt know this will happen... from what they seen this is some random dude asking for them to paint. Like this is what they get paid when a customer buys this. Basically nothing. Yes this time it was different but the comment was made to point out how underpaid this is. You not seeing this is... quite sad really.
It's the Imperial Fist version of: "They never saw it coming!" One quickly jumps the enemy with the helmet and puts it on them backwards, while the rest do the slicing.
Probably because of orks,as we all know death skulls are notorious for stealing stuff so if he lost one he could just pop another on and continue murdering things
This was fun to watch. Everyone on this list painted better than I ever would have thought and a few actually blew my mind in quality. I always paint my own but aside from you guys on youtube who post videos of basically master work I have no other reference to my own skill since I haven't really played in years.
I'm glad the video went 'viral' for you m8 and you were able to get your money back, plus hopefully some new patron supporters. Hope you have a healthy youtube career for the sake of your adorable little child :)
i found myself smiling while watching; thank you. the color schemes were different. the colors used made me wonder if there is a different understanding for the word "reference". i took it to mean: the Armour is a uniform and the color scheme should be the same as on the reference (while understanding that they will not match). i was impressed by the work they did. and helpfully informed by the experience .
Every single one of those painter did at least thrice a good job as he or she was paid for. If you have ever painted miniatures (I have for 10 years now) you will agree instantly.
I've been painting mini's for a year and a half and doing a pretty good job but these models are awesome and i have a lot more to learn. Thanks for the lesson in humility
Yeah pretty sure people were going more for the imperial fist colors than his reference pic. Probably shouldve insisted on the reference colour than the origin
This just happened to be on my recommended list and I don't know why, but I can't say I'm disappointed! You seem like the most sympathetic guy ever, great vid!
Due to Covid-19 pandemic and working from home, I've had a lot of time on my hands and began building my Gundam models again. Normally I build and paint them (putting about 10 to 20 hrs on paint) but I went crazy on the building and now have 7 newly completed Gundams and was going to find some artists on Fiverr to finish them up. I watched your video to see what to expect in quality and was pleasently surprised they didn't look to bad for what you paid. Thanks for the video :)
it's mental how far you came from here. It's a shame the quiet, small style, old studio stage had to be stepped past. saying that, i've never seen a yter rise up to their rise in relevance so effectively and presently in real-time, congratulations in your success you deserve it
Man, not entirely sure how I found myself here, but it was interesting seeing what Fiverr artists were capable of. Hehehe 17:42 that little buddy seems to be hungry :)
lol if arts needed to be paid that way, it would be fair for crappy artist but very unfair for good ones. Think about making a good paint as a novice in 4-5 hours and selling the paint for 50-60 eruro/dollar. Or being VERY good painter that make something better in 2-3 hours and getting paid 30-40 lol XD Art is very hard to price, and i talk for experience lol
@@WastedTalent83 That's why it's MINIMUM wage, not MAXIMUM wage. So if minimum wage is $20 an hour then a novice who takes 5 hours to do a painting gets $100, so at least that's enough to make a living from. The very good painter can do a better painting in 3 hours but charge $50 an hour for it, so they get $150 - more money for less work because they're better. Without minimum wage the very good painter can still charge $150, but the novice might only get $50. You're talking as if the very good painter's earning are capped, which they're not. The point is that the novice should be earning at least a living wage.
Just because you want to do something, doesn’t mean you’re entitled to minimum wage doing it. If you’re good enough to make over minimum wage, you will! If not, it’s time to choose another proffession.
Most artists paint because they love to nm paint not to make money. More then prolly half the most valuable paintings in the world the artists were usually poor as fuck. If you lobe somethi.g you just do it and dont care whay paid. Why everyone gotta make shit about money.
@@gandolfgreen5980 because you can't pay for your hobby, food, water, shelter and ect. without money. Also not everyone wants to work in a terrible job they hate when you can start a business that you actually enjoy. Doing art for fun is fine but being able to buy your art supplies with money from selling your art takes a lot of stress off of people who need most of that money to live. So having art or whatever your hobby is, pay for itself while your second job pays for your life is what A LOT of people want. It also means more work, more practice, more fun and the bonus of money. Win win to make more art, make others happy and make some money.
I love the fact that you got value for each and every order, some where better painted, but all was above or at what you expected from what they where charging.
They're Imperial Fists, I'd assume the guy might be new-ish and just wanted to make sure I knew what Imperial Fists are, and then I'd just paint them yellow.
@@JakeSnake07 Think of Space Marine chapters as more of knightly orders as opposed to branches. Imperial Guard would be the closest thing to our militaries.
@@JakeSnake07 as a person who deals with somewhat art(furry art , but still) , you would be surprised how much lightning AND monitor can affect the color you see
fantastiskt kul video att se, håller själv på med några interscessors som ja tänkte speed painta men ajajaj gult är svårt, men kul att utmana sig själv, plus poäng för hur familjevänlig din show är.
One of the things that the painters need to know, is that unless the client is giving you free reign you need to do whats ordered. I know its a bit off sometimes, like this example with the silver and not red eagle, but its what the client ordered. Had I made a request with something thats not fulfilled to what i asked, I would def be asking for a refund, because its not what was ordered. I know its hard to hear, but as someone who does commission assembly work myself, ive learned this the hard way.
Hey man, it's me, the guy who made a completely misjudged comment on your latest video about the medieval scenery. Realising how shitty it sounded despite no intention of being that way, I thought I'd extend my apologies even further by rating my top 3 videos of yours that helped me find love for the hobby again. So here goes! This is actually the first video of yours I ever watched, I stumbled across it while searching for inspiring content. The anticipation of seeing how the models came out kept me hooked. I also like how you analyse people's work without sounding super critical (something I lacked with my comment) even though not all requirements were met.
By the way guys, Fiverr takes 20% of your gig price and 20% of your tips, and you will get paid two weeks after completing your work, in most cases. As if that weren’t enough, they charge you to withdraw your earnings. So, after several hours of working on models, I myself have increased my prices and seen zero increase in interest or gigs.
@@TheBaralinChannel I live in Ukraine and have been painting for money for 6 years, I know the local prices for drawing very well, they are exactly the same as everywhere
@@fess700 If you say so. I live in the UK, but I am Bulgarian and have worked in Bulgaria and the prices for art in Bulgaria definitely aren't the prices for art in the UK. It's why I'm in the UK to begin with. Due to the state of the Bulgarian economy, art in Bulgaria is cheaper than the UK. This makes it cheap to people in the UK but average/expensive to people in Bulgaria etc. I think it's all relevant. If Ukraine's doing better than my home country then that's fantastic for you but that's not been my experience, hence I'm looking for work outside of it.
When I try to get people to give me $50 for a custom action figure, which involves major sculpting, sanding joints, full paint job, etc., they tell me to eff off. Meanwhile minis guys will gladly pay $40 for just a paintjob? On a tiny figure? Yikes, I totally went into the wrong hobby haha
@@beardalaxy I don't know about furry specifically, but DeviantArt is a great example of how much sex and fetishes sell. That site is basically a place for people to promote their Patreon/Porneon sites to make fistfuls of cash drawing tits. If I could start over, I'd definitely trade my fair-to-middling sculpting and painting skills for drawing skills.
Wonderfull. I love the 40bucks Paintshop from LYBBANS MINIATURES. nice Highlighting on the Leather parts.. But the other where good too for the prices.
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After more than 7 months I still am getting commission requests thanks to this video!
That's awesome 😍
Your work was the bomb dude, I don't understand as much about painting but anyone can see how much you care for these figures.
I'm an 3d artist and one thing that I learned was that, not everyone is an artist but everyone is a critic, awesome work
The sign of a true artist. Well done :)
you still taking commission requests? as i will have some figures
@@Pyrell you on ffiver?
Glad that You were not disappointed with my service. Thanks a lot!
Cheers
Sorry for not being honest with who i was :) hope you enjoyed it!
I was quite shocked :D after a while i starter making sense, You were a bit odd :)
Also starting up with such high end reference masę me treat You as if u knew nothing (makes sense though) but it forced me to adress You like a semi-crazy person :D
@@brushlickerstudio28 Hahaha, yeah - it was a tough one. Didn't want to give away anything either. But really great paint job, i think you delivered way over what i payed you, so i'm super happy! And really your portfolio is ace, you've got mad skill bruh!
@@SquidmarMiniatures thanks man! I have also supplied mini with video tutorial ive made, although Polish one, unfortunately
@@brushlickerstudio28 bardzo fajnie malujesz
Emil: Yellow is not my favorite color.
Also Emil: *Paints as if he was guided by angels sent from God above*
use their names, Adeptus Astartes sent by the God-Emperor on his Golden Throne
Emil is a damn paint god
5 hours later
Man-Emperor
heh speak the lamenter there cursed
"Fiverr takes 25% of his cut" that's criminal. No wonder there is a starving artist stereotype.
Was about to comment the same
takes 20 from me, thats weird.
@@TheRogueEmpire it depends on your location and the gig type
lets not forget that the tools aint cheap no matter whether you work for digital or traditional art
Depending on where you are taxes can be crazy as well.
I think the reason you got red and cold yellow rather than orange is that's the actual colours of the Imperial Fists and it might have thrown the artists off a bit. Interesting video, good idea to see how people do the same task differently.
Baby trying to eat the lid is lowkey the best part of the video
This may be a historically significant video one day. The last known sighting of a white baby in Sweden.
lmao :(
@@booradley6832 god that just made me soo depressed. Pray for Sweden
Can't tell if you guys are serious.
@@booradley6832 Ow go make some signs and protest or something
Well who the hell want black rims, black bolter and black chest eagle. You made a bad order and i fixed it for you! Thanks for the kind words man. I will think of a way to reply!
Haha, my order is way off the heresy charts. Plz don't report to the emperor.
Lybbans miniatures yours was the best one and it was the closest to the reference.
Thanks guys!!! I am humbled!!!
Thanks a lot!
XD
It really bothers me that the first one had 2 helmets lol
Death or Glory 40k In case someone steals the first one or it breaks?
Make shift weapon as seen in that football game lol
I did ask him how should I proceed with it, looks a bit funny but well it doesn't hurt to have extra helmets
Sometimes you have to leave a soldier behind. It's nice at least to grab what you can for the memorial. 💀
I was not going to say anything, but you did, so yeah. That was a little off on the two Helms.
Still looks great.
I used to work for GW, I had a lot of fun teaching others to paint, from the basics to advanced. I thought about charging to paint miniatures, however, for medical reasons I have trouble keeping my hands steady now. I really miss being able to fully enjoy the hobby. I am going to check out more of your content.
I have nerve damage in both elbows, and it’s made painting significantly more difficult.
There’s techniques to help prevent shaking. A solid box used to prop your hands seems to be the most successful. Talk to your doctor as well, they may be able to prescribe something to help.
I have no idea how I ended up here, but I got totally sucked in, watched the whole thing, and gave it a like. nice job sir :)
Same
Same
@Super Jeff since when does youtube need a reason to push random stuff into our feeds? I'm just happy when it's not a right wing bigot
same, happy for this dude
Same. Seems like an interesting hobby.
Honestly, I like #1 -- especially when you factor in price. I think the blue on the sword, and the red helmet just gives a really good artistic pop to the models, to go along with the stellar paint job.
plastic: exists
baby: it's free meal estate
That joke hits on so many levels!
my son starting to crawl ended my mini career
It's also plastic from ice packaging, sent to him from the other side of the world. Maybe there is still some ice bits on it. :)
I was like "Nooo, don't let baby lick the lid that might have paint/glue on it" 😱
@jammer four hahaha 😂
I'm DevPaints. I really regret not doing this project, as I'm a big fan. I was trying to be fair to both of us. Between international shipping and Fiverrs cut, I was going to be making peanuts and at the same time charging you a whole bunch for just one miniature. I had no way to know it was you, would have been great exposure :(
Hey man, i hold no grudges :) let's make another fun challenge down the line ;)
@@SquidmarMiniatures I'd love that, Emil. You got some great results. I definitely feel I would have held my own though :D Hopefully there's another chance down the road!
Dude, you gave a great reason and communicated with him clearly , that's good exposure!
@@SquidmarMiniatures i would love to participate :P
Let's do it, give me a few weeks and I'll get back to you :)
"I think i'm gonna regret this"
UA-cam: "no... I don't think you will"
I'm a new painter (have done ~10 minis) and this is the first time I see somebody other than myself paint one (never really looked at reference pics either). I was getting proud of what I was doing, that's gone. Y'all are too good
Just keep painting minis man! You learn something new and get better every time you paint a mini!
@@LazyManHobbies Thanks! Know of any place where I could get feedback? I'd very much like to hear from more experienced painters.
@@KingLoth All over the place, facebook is a good place to start. There are lots of 40k groups there. Upload videos of your minis on youtube too. Anywhere you can upload images and videos of your minis you can usually get feedback
If you do upload anything, send me a link. I love seeing miniatures
@@LazyManHobbies I paint DnD figurines, but it's pretty much the same thing. Here's a link to some pictures I just took, I hope you can see some details: drive.google.com/open?id=1Mm7PETR9frSoVArrEOFpi0tMP44ZmZCE
Reddit is your friend.
I like how you were so respectful to the painters.
@get rekt those are painters who do this for money.
If they weren't this how video couldn't be possible.
And what is so entitled about his behaviour?
He shows them what he wants, they decide if they can make it, then they talk about money.
Then the product doesn't come as you talked about it.
I like how you spoke kindly of the painters.
"I Hope this video goes viral"
UA-cam Algorithm: *Hold my beer*
I've never watched any miniature-related nor painting-related video in my life but here I am, discovering a really cool corner of youtube thanks to the mighty algorithm
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Every damn time!
@@elbarto8282 Yeah, same. I had no idea these things existed. LOL
i feel my algorithm was attacked
Pretty sure this popped up for me after I watched a bunch of Davie 504 vids
I'm amazed by the prices on some of these. I remember at my LGS there was a guy who painted everyone's DnD miniatures, and he even made his own custom bases with railroad grass and rocks and such to make it more realistic, and that was $10, but that was back in like 1998. I wouldn't expect that these days for less than $20-30
Part of me feels like youtube employs some dude to just sit with a joint trying to find super dope videos to post on the front page
That's what I'm doing. But alas.... I do not get paid
17:10 Human and bubble wrap - The beginning of a friendship for life.
To be honest your 1st guy nailed it. With that NMM for tabletop - a no-brainer.
FR tho, the highlights were amazingly done and when placed next to each other it did have a bit of a orange sheen to the yellow.
Only guy on the lineup I would actually buy from
The first guy did a crazy good job.
Uh, model is wearing a helmet and has a SECOND HELMET on his leg.
@@IndianaSmallmouth the paint job is better than the others by far. Who cares about an extra helmet...
his definitely popped the most and produced the, "wow," effect in my mind. also, the more i looked at it, the more i liked it, oddly.
Little squid reaches for bubble wrap
"Don't eat that"
*cut*
Little squid happily devouring plastic lid.
Little squid will grow up to resent his father.
@Green Space he never got the bubble wrap ofc he will resent him for the rest of his life. Havent yoy ever been denied bubble wrap?
I think for all the artists involved it really gives them a baseline as to what their competitors are doing and the quality of work they are actually sending out for the price. I think in future videos you might want to reference their work back to their samples at the same price point (if available) and see if it exceeds, matches, or is below their examples.
"I'm not gonna name any names"
*Proceeds to name names.*
"10 dollar a miniature? These guys are cheap!"
And here I am charging 7.50 a mini thinking I'm gouging my clients.
No way, man. Consider your time and materials. How much do you make an hour at your job? Or how much does a normal person make? How long does it take you to paint a mini? If it's an hour, you should be charging at least what you make an hour. Plus paints.
Get what your time is worth. You can take off a little bit if they are a friend or you REALLY wanna take a job, but you cant get screwed for your time.
yeah it depedns on what country you are in
There is a reason why most people only put in the hours on their lords and monsters and basicaly only drybrushes the regular soldiers. It's the time, and if someone wants their soldiers to have the same detail as their lords and monsters then they either put in the time or pay someone else to put in the time.
I kinda lost my chain of thought there.. but the point is, if you want a deluxe lord dont just pay for soldier quality. And you shouldnt paint deluxe quality on people who is paying you to paint their soldiers. Even tho it's painfull not to give every mini your full skill.
No, if you only get payed 7.50 id say you owe them clean paint, clean lines, basic shade and basic highlight. No gem facetes, no glass lenses, directional lights, battle scars, or rust (beyond maybe using texture pains. But that's maybe).
If someone were to pay you 50 dollar, then you could give them the whole package, but then you should also have the skill to justify the price.
agreed that was my thought through the whole video
I charged a friend £90 to paint 3 leman Russ tanks....
In the end seeing them all together was a beautiful moment even with the different qualities. Almost like if you feel their individuality as a squad.
yes, they made a great squad, and at playing distance they all seemed of a kind
Also your son is really cute ! You look like a happy father ! ^^
Yeah, more videos with the baby! 😉👍🏻
I love the way you speak of the artists... so respectfully!
17:28 "Don't eat that" I'm definitely not an expert at Swedish, but I understand that much. (I'm from Finland, so I have to learn Swedish)
I think I actually prefer Lybbans Intercessor! That's a really great, clean paintjob for the money you spent. Love the way the armor is highlighted
Well thank you!!! :)
I second that
Thanks
Thirded.
Fiverr takes way too much. There has to be something better for the artists. Also idea for a colab: make a big diorama, and every artist contributes with one model.
Yeah, 25 percent just for providing a platform does not sound fair to me.
It's a fair commission. If you think it's not, then you're using the platform wrong. Bear in mind that Fiverr doesn't get commission on any repeat business, only the first order.
If it's too much then good luck finding clients on your own, lol. Also consider that fiverr at core is meant for digital work, so it does not need shipping fee.
I mean fiverr is okay as a networking site. Find someone on there, like their work or inversely them as a customer and then start doing things via paypal/check/other method. That 25% is to cover creating the platform, fraud protection, work integrity and other things. I dont "Agree' with that cut but I also think that people should be looking to abandon the site asap once they get a little networking done.
@uncletigger That's not much of a compromise when only one side determines this for the other.
I can appreciate any man willing to pay 200 dollars for a half-hour of content, good work mate.
The best mini sit on your left arm.
I could never do this personally, but I love and appreciate the artistic abilities and fortitude of the people that do do these!
I recon the best one was the first package you opened, by Victor.
I agree that the one you rated matched the tones of the reference picture better.
But I prefer the way Victor has highlighted and shaded. The others were great and really neat but I dig that grim dark look.
And consider he actually pulled that off for the price he was paid, compared to your friends who knew they were getting the video exposure. That was kick ass effort!
Huge probs to all these painters for delivering a fully painted yellow model. Personally, I would rather eat an entire bowl of shattered glass than paint a fully yellow mini.
Wise words! haha
it was tough and scary
Haha. Yellow is underestimated. Its my new favourite colour. I am currently painting a bad moon army
My noob observation: Imperial fists are flat yellow not borderline orange.
Yeah. Miniature painting really confuses me sometimes. "Give me Imperial Fists." *is given orange marines* or edge highlight with brighter versions of the base colour unless it's black in which case you edge with blue?
i think the point of the pro painter's color choices was that the light reflections from the environment (that the bases represented) were making the armor look orangeish, along with the armor having a dust layer on it.
Blood on Yellow armor= Orange
@@giathuanleviet4138 n
ah blood on yellow armour =red and black. Just like blood on anything is red and black.
Maybe they put Turtle Wax on their armour that morning (for parade, obvs), and now they are fighting next to a huge inferno?
Or maybe their armour was placed in the all-yellow laundry basket, but an orange sock got mixed up in the pile? The laundry guy is clearly a heretic.
That mini that showed up near the end looks so real! How do you get them to move?
I also want to learn how to make your minis move
Been painting minis for a few months now with the same 10 bottles of paint that i mix together and 2 brushes. Ive had some great results and a lot of fun. Did a few for free for the players in my DnD campaign, and have thought "maybe I should charge money for this?"
I found your video very helpful. It showed me buyer expectations and pricing guidelines. Thank you!
Dude, I wish I could paint minis half as well as any of these guys.
That fourty-dollar guy blew my mind.
Still, I would just have no fun playing with minis someone else painted ;(
Max Schmidt 🙏🏻😁
I'm in the opposite position, anything I've ever painted is an embarrassment so I'm far happier with other people's work!!
@@crewealex1125 Hey I have the same with any kind of craft work, e.g. renovating the flat or repairing the car. :D
@@crewealex1125 You have to do a lot of painting to get any good usually. Buy some cheap army men from the dollar store and try some different things and see what works for you.
UA-cam Algorithm: See’s cute baby
*VIRAL MODE ACTIVATED*
might have been what happened for real
Great stuff! Baby trying to slowly swipe the bubble wrap, directly to his mouth, adorable!
Your model looks really close to the original design. I love it. I do agree with you on your favourites they were really good but I think yours would definitely be in my top 3.
that yellow highlight on the 2nd model does not go with the yellow underneath, this is why you need to mix colours.
Your base is the best, but I think Emil Hurtig nailed it.
If anyone spent this much time talking about my paintjob, I would cry.
It looks like most of them painted then with official imperial fists colors, instead of using the reference.
I suppose he shouldn't have even mentioned "Imperial Fists" if his reference had wrong colors. Imperial Fists are yellow and red, not orange and black.
im super happy i found this video. It has been years since i painted 40k figures. I have been looking for a hobby again and I think you helped me re-discover one I used to love.
I literally find WC boring but this guys voice is so relaxing. His tone, pitch and accent make me feel so relaxed. And seeing a cute little baby as-well. Endorphins have most definitely even released 😁
hahah thx ;)
"This guy knows how to do business!"
The guy who asks for $25
Fiverr takes 25% - left with $19
pays for shipping from pocket, -$15, left with $4
pays for paint materials, lets say he only uses $3 worth of materials.
gets paid a whopping $1 for his effort and work that doesn't even really cover for the time talking with you let alone actual paint job and skill.
yeah, flawless business strategy.
The only person here with business sense is Devpaints :"3
The whole discipline seems so underpaid, I don't know how anyone can make a decent living at it unless they live somewhere extremely cheap. Even the guy charging $100, his hourly rate was still probably low.
Very true. I understand that squidmar wants to settle for a low price and that includes all shipping, etc. But the artists work time is extremely underpaid in these offers. Squidmar kind of makes fun of the artist describing himself as passionate, but I think you can only do these offers if you are really passionate about doing them and painting them just for the fun, because the prices are never fair at this level.
15$ for a small package like this?
@@christophercant It is underpaid because other artists dont value they work. You will find someone that will make that cheaper or for him it is a hobby etc.
@Lemazive They didnt know this will happen... from what they seen this is some random dude asking for them to paint. Like this is what they get paid when a customer buys this. Basically nothing. Yes this time it was different but the comment was made to point out how underpaid this is. You not seeing this is... quite sad really.
I like how you differentiate between musicians and bass players.
I just noticed that the first guy brought a backup helmet.
I suppose you have one to wear and the other to beat people to death with in close combat.
It's the Imperial Fist version of: "They never saw it coming!" One quickly jumps the enemy with the helmet and puts it on them backwards, while the rest do the slicing.
@@penguinsentinel8508 Myles Garrett style.
Probably because of orks,as we all know death skulls are notorious for stealing stuff so if he lost one he could just pop another on and continue murdering things
This was fun to watch. Everyone on this list painted better than I ever would have thought and a few actually blew my mind in quality. I always paint my own but aside from you guys on youtube who post videos of basically master work I have no other reference to my own skill since I haven't really played in years.
I'm glad the video went 'viral' for you m8 and you were able to get your money back, plus hopefully some new patron supporters. Hope you have a healthy youtube career for the sake of your adorable little child :)
i found myself smiling while watching; thank you.
the color schemes were different.
the colors used made me wonder if there is a different understanding for the word "reference".
i took it to mean: the Armour is a uniform and the color scheme should be the same as on the reference (while understanding that they will not match).
i was impressed by the work they did. and helpfully informed by the experience .
Thank you for showing that these services might be worth getting it
No matter how good the artist is he has his own understanding of the expected result. It's very hard to get a perfect result at the first attempt.
Every single one of those painter did at least thrice a good job as he or she was paid for. If you have ever painted miniatures (I have for 10 years now) you will agree instantly.
I've been painting mini's for a year and a half and doing a pretty good job but these models are awesome and i have a lot more to learn. Thanks for the lesson in humility
You asked for imperial fists, and you got imperial fists, what you wanted was firehawks
Uh, nope; pretty sure it was Imperial Fists he wanted. Just really, really tan Imperial Fists. No fire.
@@YeahTheDuckweed honestly the 2nd was probably the most fisty. The ref was wayyy too orange for Fists
Yeah pretty sure people were going more for the imperial fist colors than his reference pic. Probably shouldve insisted on the reference colour than the origin
*That was awesome* ✅😀
Hey! Love your videos! I wonder if they paint doom miniatures!?
"inte äta på den"
Hahaha! That's my life in four words right now!
Hahaha
I second that.
your humble approach to content earned you my sub. love it
Beautiful little baby!! So adorable!! Good for you, man!! Good work!😀👍
Your kiddo is adorable! 🥺
I mean the minis are cool...yeah...
I love how the baby was just "Go do your silly toys dad, I'll go eat this plastic top! Omnomnomnom"
I originaly didnt think i would like its appearance, but the baby most definitely made the video better.
This just happened to be on my recommended list and I don't know why, but I can't say I'm disappointed! You seem like the most sympathetic guy ever, great vid!
Due to Covid-19 pandemic and working from home, I've had a lot of time on my hands and began building my Gundam models again. Normally I build and paint them (putting about 10 to 20 hrs on paint) but I went crazy on the building and now have 7 newly completed Gundams and was going to find some artists on Fiverr to finish them up. I watched your video to see what to expect in quality and was pleasently surprised they didn't look to bad for what you paid. Thanks for the video :)
it's mental how far you came from here. It's a shame the quiet, small style, old studio stage had to be stepped past. saying that, i've never seen a yter rise up to their rise in relevance so effectively and presently in real-time, congratulations in your success you deserve it
"I hope it goes viral so I can make my money back"
Well it went viral haha.
Man, not entirely sure how I found myself here, but it was interesting seeing what Fiverr artists were capable of. Hehehe 17:42 that little buddy seems to be hungry :)
It is sad how underpaid these painters are. Not even getting minimum wage for the time put in.
lol if arts needed to be paid that way, it would be fair for crappy artist but very unfair for good ones.
Think about making a good paint as a novice in 4-5 hours and selling the paint for 50-60 eruro/dollar.
Or being VERY good painter that make something better in 2-3 hours and getting paid 30-40 lol XD
Art is very hard to price, and i talk for experience lol
@@WastedTalent83 That's why it's MINIMUM wage, not MAXIMUM wage. So if minimum wage is $20 an hour then a novice who takes 5 hours to do a painting gets $100, so at least that's enough to make a living from. The very good painter can do a better painting in 3 hours but charge $50 an hour for it, so they get $150 - more money for less work because they're better. Without minimum wage the very good painter can still charge $150, but the novice might only get $50.
You're talking as if the very good painter's earning are capped, which they're not. The point is that the novice should be earning at least a living wage.
Just because you want to do something, doesn’t mean you’re entitled to minimum wage doing it. If you’re good enough to make over minimum wage, you will! If not, it’s time to choose another proffession.
Most artists paint because they love to nm paint not to make money. More then prolly half the most valuable paintings in the world the artists were usually poor as fuck. If you lobe somethi.g you just do it and dont care whay paid. Why everyone gotta make shit about money.
@@gandolfgreen5980 because you can't pay for your hobby, food, water, shelter and ect. without money.
Also not everyone wants to work in a terrible job they hate when you can start a business that you actually enjoy. Doing art for fun is fine but being able to buy your art supplies with money from selling your art takes a lot of stress off of people who need most of that money to live. So having art or whatever your hobby is, pay for itself while your second job pays for your life is what A LOT of people want. It also means more work, more practice, more fun and the bonus of money.
Win win to make more art, make others happy and make some money.
Awesome painting by you Squidmar!
I love the fact that you got value for each and every order, some where better painted, but all was above or at what you expected from what they where charging.
This is actually one of the best fiver vids ive seen in a while
It's really odd that most of them didn't see how orange the reference was. Or just ignored it.
My assumption is that it's a difference in monitors. Colors look different between screens, so it may not have looked nearly as orange on theirs.
They're Imperial Fists, I'd assume the guy might be new-ish and just wanted to make sure I knew what Imperial Fists are, and then I'd just paint them yellow.
@@samb.8134 So... I don't 40k. Are they a specific branch of the military or something?
@@JakeSnake07 Think of Space Marine chapters as more of knightly orders as opposed to branches. Imperial Guard would be the closest thing to our militaries.
@@JakeSnake07 as a person who deals with somewhat art(furry art , but still) , you would be surprised how much lightning AND monitor can affect the color you see
16:40 "Yo what kind of magic is this dad ?!" xD
Just learning how to do this type of painting and this video has shattered all the other tutorials . Now i know what to aim for
fantastiskt kul video att se, håller själv på med några interscessors som ja tänkte speed painta men ajajaj gult är svårt, men kul att utmana sig själv, plus poäng för hur familjevänlig din show är.
First one is wearing a helmet and has one on his belt. . . . . they used the wrong head for that mini. LMAO!!!! Anyone else notice?
Jesus, we used to pay that much in NZ just for a set of minis, let alone getting someone else to paint them for us 🤣
One of the things that the painters need to know, is that unless the client is giving you free reign you need to do whats ordered.
I know its a bit off sometimes, like this example with the silver and not red eagle, but its what the client ordered.
Had I made a request with something thats not fulfilled to what i asked, I would def be asking for a refund, because its not what was ordered.
I know its hard to hear, but as someone who does commission assembly work myself, ive learned this the hard way.
Love them all, with each showing the painters different styles.
Really enjoy these videos. Squidmar makes it interesting to watch too. Happily subscribed.
The main thing i learned from seeing those minis is that I'm in the wrong line of work.
In a comforting voice: "Inte äta på det..."
Hey man, it's me, the guy who made a completely misjudged comment on your latest video about the medieval scenery. Realising how shitty it sounded despite no intention of being that way, I thought I'd extend my apologies even further by rating my top 3 videos of yours that helped me find love for the hobby again.
So here goes! This is actually the first video of yours I ever watched, I stumbled across it while searching for inspiring content. The anticipation of seeing how the models came out kept me hooked. I also like how you analyse people's work without sounding super critical (something I lacked with my comment) even though not all requirements were met.
1st time watching and the best miniature was one you grabbed and just kept on filming. Subscribed right after that 👍
It's done by some old granny in Luton, don't go for the scam on Fivver. No I'm kidding, it's not too bad for the price.
thanks
Wot u sayin bout looton m8?
I'm posting this comment so that the algorithm see's viewer engagement.
Mackenzie Storey and I am liking a bunch of comments for the same reason 😂
Yes
I'll get in on that action 😉
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Just want to help stroke that algorithm.
Entertainment at its finest.
I suck at painting miniatures and just painting stuff in general but I can still appreciate how well these are done.
By the way guys, Fiverr takes 20% of your gig price and 20% of your tips, and you will get paid two weeks after completing your work, in most cases. As if that weren’t enough, they charge you to withdraw your earnings. So, after several hours of working on models, I myself have increased my prices and seen zero increase in interest or gigs.
you have been blessed by the youtube recommendation algorithm
In Russia you can order a pack of 5 painted for 25$, but, of course, only for locals)
lol man, in Russia for this money models will only be covered with shit
@@fess700 Nah, Russia's just a cheaper country cause of its economy. It's just as expensive there as it is here, only relative to the people.
@@TheBaralinChannel I live in Ukraine and have been painting for money for 6 years, I know the local prices for drawing very well, they are exactly the same as everywhere
@@fess700 If you say so. I live in the UK, but I am Bulgarian and have worked in Bulgaria and the prices for art in Bulgaria definitely aren't the prices for art in the UK. It's why I'm in the UK to begin with.
Due to the state of the Bulgarian economy, art in Bulgaria is cheaper than the UK. This makes it cheap to people in the UK but average/expensive to people in Bulgaria etc. I think it's all relevant. If Ukraine's doing better than my home country then that's fantastic for you but that's not been my experience, hence I'm looking for work outside of it.
When I try to get people to give me $50 for a custom action figure, which involves major sculpting, sanding joints, full paint job, etc., they tell me to eff off. Meanwhile minis guys will gladly pay $40 for just a paintjob? On a tiny figure? Yikes, I totally went into the wrong hobby haha
Custom action figure eh? Mind letting me see some of your work?
What, a custom fig for $50. I'd take that all day long.
@@DeathArrivesQuickly Here's my more recent stuff www.artstation.com/henchmen4hire
if you really want to get into the right hobby, draw hentai. even better: furry hentai.
@@beardalaxy I don't know about furry specifically, but DeviantArt is a great example of how much sex and fetishes sell. That site is basically a place for people to promote their Patreon/Porneon sites to make fistfuls of cash drawing tits.
If I could start over, I'd definitely trade my fair-to-middling sculpting and painting skills for drawing skills.
Wonderfull.
I love the 40bucks Paintshop from LYBBANS MINIATURES. nice Highlighting on the Leather parts.. But the other where good too for the prices.
Man your friends are by far the best. They did you a solid.