The True Story Behind Shoguns' Main Characters

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  • Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
  • This video will cover the real lives of Lord Yoshii Toranaga (Tokugawa Ieyasu), John Blackthorne (William Adams) & Toda Mariko (Akechi Tama)
    00:00 Akechi Tama (Toda Mariko)
    14:39 Tokugawa Ieyasu (Lord Yoshii Toranaga)
    42:01 William Adams (John Blackthorne)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 54

  • @LKMNOP
    @LKMNOP Місяць тому +16

    I've watched your full version videos of these individual characters. But I appreciate one that talks about all of them together. You do a very good job. I know the history of Japan and you do a very good job.

    • @historyprofiles
      @historyprofiles  Місяць тому +3

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate it! A lot of research went into the videos!

  • @user-df8ny6qi9y
    @user-df8ny6qi9y Місяць тому +7

    Emperor Naruhito is Gratia's descendants. And among other Gratia's descendants, there's a woman Tamao Hosokawa, she became catholic and her baptismal name is Gratia.

  • @user-si6fd6lw6e
    @user-si6fd6lw6e 27 днів тому +4

    William Adams' story based on historical facts is unflashy and uninteresting, so the novel "Shogun'' is a creation that surprisingly twists historical facts. Jan Joosten van Lodenstijn, a Dutch trader who was on board the shipwreck with Adams and who was also favored by Ieyasu (the district east of Tokyo Station, Yaesu, is derived from his name). Similarly, he is said to have taken a Japanese wife and had a child, but his Japanese name was 耶楊子(やようす)(Ya yohsu), which sounds Chinese, so it seems that he was not a samurai. Unfortunately, he later died in a shipwreck during a trading voyage (1623). Therefore, considering that the voyage at that time was very dangerous and that Adams could not hope for a wealthy life in Japan even if he returned to England, it can be said that it was good for him staying in Japan.

    • @allrequiredfields
      @allrequiredfields 11 днів тому

      Spare me. Adams' story is unquestionably interesting. No one said it was the most interesting story in history.

  • @ELKE-
    @ELKE- Місяць тому +4

    Thank you History Profiles. Loved this so much, that i listened twice! More comment for algorithms. I wish a great weekend

    • @historyprofiles
      @historyprofiles  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for listening!

    • @ELKE-
      @ELKE- Місяць тому +1

      @@historyprofiles
      Pleasure is all mine. Thank you!

  • @ELKE-
    @ELKE- Місяць тому +4

    This is awesome! Another amazing video from you. Still working here, but soon i will enjoy my listening! Thank you so much Ollie for such great stories

    • @historyprofiles
      @historyprofiles  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for listening Elke! It means a lot!

    • @ELKE-
      @ELKE- Місяць тому +1

      @@historyprofiles
      Thank you! I love your videos

  • @NomadX7
    @NomadX7 Місяць тому

    Long and well worth it! Thank You

  • @user-si6fd6lw6e
    @user-si6fd6lw6e 25 днів тому +3

    In the novel, it was very forced to make Hosokawa Gracia the interpreter Toda Mariko. Normally, a Jesuit missionary would be in charge. In that case, it wouldn't be a romantic development, so I think the author, James Clavell, was fully aware of this when he created the story. Therefore, Japanese people feel very uncomfortable. Just before the Battle of Sekigahara, the model Hosokawa Gracia had her husband's mansion surrounded by Ishida(Ishido) side's army. She refused to be taken hostage, kept her faith, had family vassal kill her, and set the mansion on fire. Since she was her husband's substitute while he was away, there was a sense of pride among the feudal lords, or her husband Tadaoki may have ordered his vassal to take measures in case of such situations. Ishida's side realized they were called coward and no one would betray now, so they stopped that approach, and in the end, she won. Gracia's death was about four months after Adams washed ashore, so it is possible that the two met. However, even if she learned a foreign language from a Portuguese missionary, there is no way that it would be English, and even if she is an interpreter, the setting is out of the question that the legitimate wife of a highly prestigious feudal lord would have the opportunity to speak with foreigners in public.
    [PS] Additionally, since Toyotomi Hideyoshi shot up to prominence by defeating Akechi Mitsuhide(Jinsai), he tried to make Mitsuhide even more of a villain and show off his own worth. There were many warlords who once served Nobunaga but rebelled. Other famous people besides Mitsuhide are Matsunaga Hisahide and Araki Murashige. Both of them have problems when I think about them as humans, so I don't like them. Although I cannot confirm that Mitsuhide caused the rebellion, there is room for sympathy, and there was even a drama starring him.
    The reason why this time Shogun drama has Mariko fight with a naginata(Japanese halberd), introduces a group of ninja-like assassins, and includes an explosion scene is the intention of the American producers, who want to make a big show, I guess. If they think it's unspectacular if they don't do this, it's a matter of taste, so that can't be helped.

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Місяць тому +10

    Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁💯

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for the in-depth video it was educational and nice at the same time

    • @historyprofiles
      @historyprofiles  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much !!!

    • @-RONNIE
      @-RONNIE Місяць тому

      @@historyprofiles enjoy the rest of your weekend

  • @MS-pj6ql
    @MS-pj6ql Місяць тому +1

    nice video

  • @j2c695
    @j2c695 Місяць тому +17

    As a catholic this was so interesting to hear! I woulda never put together Gun powder and missionary’s together. Love the channel dude. Keep up the great work!!!

    • @stever4128
      @stever4128 Місяць тому +3

      The military history museum in Lisbon has so much cool stuff, but my favorite section is its collection of weapons and armor from Japan and India. From this time period.

    • @Jason-gg4lm
      @Jason-gg4lm Місяць тому +1

      As a Methodist I want to say you guys are ridiculous and no one denomination has a stronger connection with God despite all the silly antics😅

    • @gerryavalos7734
      @gerryavalos7734 Місяць тому

      Crusades? Wake up ta hell unlive under a rock

    • @Jason-gg4lm
      @Jason-gg4lm Місяць тому +1

      ​@@gerryavalos7734the crusades were awesome and justified 😀

    • @j2c695
      @j2c695 Місяць тому

      @@Jason-gg4lmwe both believe in god, why throw shade? No faith is better than another.

  • @LKMNOP
    @LKMNOP Місяць тому +3

    Being a Catholic, I seriously wonder if, The priest s, who had a vested interest in having a respected woman convert to Catholicism, wanted to make her into a bit of a martyr. Since suicide is against Catholic dogma, that they put out the idea that the servant killed her against her wishes. That way she stays, in the religious sense, pure.

  • @user-nj5bd8ly1y
    @user-nj5bd8ly1y Місяць тому +2

    Good show old bean.

  • @jordanfalkowski6924
    @jordanfalkowski6924 Місяць тому

    That scene of blackthorn holding her after the powder ignited and toranaga on that cliff, he said that future was..

  • @shantoreywilkins651
    @shantoreywilkins651 Місяць тому +3

    🌅📽️

  • @RoastingPotPieMonkey
    @RoastingPotPieMonkey Місяць тому +1

    i'm a little confused why you choose that particular death of shingen.

    • @historyprofiles
      @historyprofiles  Місяць тому +1

      It sounded the most exciting it’s one account of his death, however after reading his entire life story I will do a video on the the tiger of Kai with all 3 narratives of his death, pneumonia, an old war wound or being shot dead by a sniper.

  • @writing_desk
    @writing_desk Місяць тому

  • @kishki7992
    @kishki7992 20 днів тому

    Why does this ai art look like abroad in japan 50:07

  • @HopeAndrea_HFG
    @HopeAndrea_HFG Місяць тому

    Is this an AI youtuber?

    • @historyprofiles
      @historyprofiles  Місяць тому +4

      Nope! You can tell by the mouth noises I make sometimes and I do make mistakes sometimes! I will be showing my face soon in introductions to try and connect with the audience more!

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 Місяць тому +6

    Too loosely understand Japanese history, I recommend you to watch these media in this order
    - Seven Samurai
    - Shogun
    - Sekigahara
    - Silence
    - Harakiri
    - Samurai Rebellion
    - Rurouni Kenshin
    - The Last Samurai
    - Memoirs of Geisha
    - Pearl Harbor
    - Flags of Our Fathers/ Letters from Iwo Jima
    - Unbroken
    - Oppenheimer
    - Godzilla Minus One

  • @user-si6fd6lw6e
    @user-si6fd6lw6e Місяць тому

    I would like to briefly write about the basics in order to help people overseas who don't know about Japanese history understand "Shogun".
    First of all, you must know the word "下剋上Ge-koku-jo". This is a process in which a powerful person of a lower position or status defeats a higher-ranking person and takes power, and was accepted during the Muromachi period (1336 or 1392-1573) and the Sengoku period (1467-around the end of the 16th century), is a social trend that has been implemented. The situation in those days was harsh, where foolish, tyrannical, or incompetent feudal lords would quickly lose their territory, so such feudal lords were replaced, killed, or expelled. I think it occurred naturally because if they didn't do that, they wouldn't be able to protect the livelihoods of the people in that territory. This trend had almost disappeared by the time of Hideyoshi, when the war had calmed down, but it was because this trend remained that Ieyasu was able to take over the country, which was the model for Toranaga, and was recognized by those around him. The next peaceful era in which social classes were fixed became impossible in the Edo period (1603-1867).
    The daimyos(feudal lords) of the Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, and Ieyasu eras could never let the guard down even if they had served as vassals. Figuratively speaking, they are "wolves'' rather than "watchdogs'' or "hounds.'' If they are given chances, they would bite their masters to death. For this reason, those who were powerful enough to control the country were forced to bear a severe burden, creating a very tense relationship between them. Under the circumstances, betrayal and rebellion were common, and it was a matter of course that the punishment for those who committed such acts would be to kill all members of the family, including their retainers, as a warning to others.
    Ieyasu was able to take over the country because of the different qualities of their vassals and Hideyoshi's failure to succeed him. As Hideyoshi was an "upstart," he had no reliable and loyal old vassals. When Hideyoshi took over the country, his vassals were also promoted to daimyo status, but a conflict arose between these vassal daimyos, the factions of his legal wife and Hideyori's biological mother. In addition, although it was an unfortunate turn of events, his successor, his son Hideyori, was young and the coalition system supported by powerful daimyos from various regions was only a formality, so there were many opportunities for Ieyasu to take advantage of this.
    From the beginning, the whole country where Hideyoshi was the most powerful, was only obtained after Hideyoshi fought with Ieyasu and made the "biggest concession". In the Battle of Komaki and Nagakute (1584), which was a siege battle over a wide area that occurred 16 years before the Battle of Sekigahara (1600), the Ieyasu side, which was smaller numbers, skillfully concentrated its forces and conducted individual battles won. However, in the end, they succumbed to Hideyoshi's side, which tried to negotiate peace through diplomatic tactics. The "biggest concession" was that Hideyoshi unreasonably divorced his younger sister and made her a concubine for Ieyasu, in order to make Ieyasu take the form of vassalage, when Ieyasu was brought to Osaka, even his real mother was temporarily taken as a hostage to Tokugawa territory. If Ieyasu did not submit to Hideyoshi, it would return to the chaotic era before Nobunaga, and a third party would gain power, putting themselves in danger. Because of this situation, this peace was an "unstable peace'' that was skillfully staged by both sides. Ieyasu had always kept his ambition to take over the country hidden in his heart, so it was inevitable that he would act in this way after Hideyoshi died.

  • @cliffordyamasaki3899
    @cliffordyamasaki3899 24 дні тому

    Better yet,watch toshiro kurosawa films instead

    • @allrequiredfields
      @allrequiredfields 11 днів тому

      2024 Shōgun is fucking incredible. It became my all-time favorite show by like the 5th episode.

  • @keith20thSOS
    @keith20thSOS 13 днів тому +1

    The FINAL Episode of Shogun was a TOTAL SHAM and VERY POORLY Done, total Let Down! The Opening Scene shows Blackthorne back in England dying, BULLSHIT!
    The REAL "Blackthorne", WILLIAM ADAMS NEVER WENT BACK TO ENGLAND, and he Married into a Japanese "Regal" Family, likely the character Fuji!! Williams became a "Lord ", had at least two mixed children with his Japanese Wife and as I said, the HISTORY shows he NEVER Returned to England to his original Family! However, via the Dutch East Indies Company, he did send money regularly to his estranged English wife and Children for their support until Adams died in his late 40's. WATCH the the Truth! (Shame on the ShoSHAM 2024! ua-cam.com/video/ssyXe9SuZcA/v-deo.htmlsi=3jIcDEwSK1TTVHRJ )

    • @FlashyVic
      @FlashyVic 9 днів тому

      It was an adaptation of the novel not a depiction of actual history. Both it and the novel were historical fiction very loosely based on real events - as most historical fiction is - and never purported to be anything else.

    • @muhammadtalha4786
      @muhammadtalha4786 День тому +1

      You need to watch the final again. Blackthorn was only dreaming about England.
      If you watch the scene again, in his dream, Blackthorn was holding mariko's cross but later in the episode they show blackthorn throwing the cross in the lake which clearly implies blackthorn was only dreaming about England at the start of the episode.