METAL GEAR SOLID PROFOUND ANTI SMOKING MESSAGE | ANALYSIS
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Embark on a thought-provoking journey with us as we delve into the profound anti-smoking message hidden within the legendary "Metal Gear Solid" series. Beyond the intense action and gripping narrative lies a subtle yet powerful commentary on the dangers of tobacco use, woven intricately into the fabric of the game's world and characters.
Join us as we unravel the complexities of smoking in "Metal Gear Solid," from Solid Snake's stoic struggles with addiction to the comical quirks of characters like Ocelot. Through insightful analysis and captivating gameplay moments, we explore how smoking serves as a reflection of the characters' inner turmoil and the challenges they face.
But beneath the surface, "Metal Gear Solid" also delivers a compelling anti-smoking narrative, shedding light on the detrimental effects of tobacco use on health and well-being. Through poignant scenes and subtle storytelling, the game invites players to contemplate the real-world implications of smoking and the importance of making informed choices for their health.
As we navigate the intricacies of "Metal Gear Solid," we're reminded of the profound impact of tobacco use and the need for awareness and moderation. Join us as we uncover the hidden layers of anti-smoking messaging in "Metal Gear Solid" and discover how even within the chaos of war, there lies a powerful message of health and resilience.
Don't miss out on this insightful exploration of one of gaming's most iconic series and its profound anti-smoking message. Like, share, and subscribe to stay tuned for more thought-provoking content on gaming and beyond! #metalgearsolid #trivia #gaming #analysis
My man This HAS to be One of your best videos, you maneged to talk about a really slept on subject being precise, smart and calm (you clearly knew your stuff). You really are doing Great and the amount of extra comments that your videos get its the proof.
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sup bruv thanks again for your input keeps us moving, and making content for you, and man the subject can easily go overlooked and i figured its something we can all relate too! upwards on wards, we are building a army without nation, oh btw i made you a mod for this channel 😉
@@mycardboardbox dude thank you so Much but... What does a mod do in particular?
@re15_mat if ever i do any live streams in the future, you can keep on eye on the chat and decide who to boot out 👍
@@mycardboardbox oh alright man, ill try to appear in case of live, i'll try my best boss ✊🏻
An hour long analysis of "when you equip cigarettes you take damage", I genuinely love this, thank you
Exactly. This is truly a Hideo Kojima community moment.
Damn didnt expect to see gamerchamp here
But that asks the question, can you beat Metal Gear Solid while smoking?
@@SHADOMEGA7569 You have to use cigars whenever you're playing a Big Boss title, since he prefers them. Raiden would probably get a vape or weed because you have to be tripping balls to get used to the S3 Plan
Gamechamp-san!
Snake- Smoking addiction
Otacon- Waifu addiction
Major Zero- Tea addiction
Ocelot - Spinning addiction
@@notthechosenjuan2413 actually, ocelot is addicted to triple backstabbing
@@edgrininnesfortinno he's addicted to engravings
@notthechosenjuan2413 Ha, I missed that one
otacon is a total simp falling for a literal terrorist. But hey she's nice to dogs like Hitler so that's ok.
My dad once said, "if you don't start, you don't have to quit." Now I say it and I live it.
That's great advice for SO MUCH LIFE STUFF
There are actual multiple gameplay functions to cigarettes. It's a light, it's a laser detector, it makes you aim better, it makes Snake heal stress, and enemies can smell the cigarette and walk over to investigate the smell which is a nice way to lure in individual guards. It also prevents Hornets and Bees from attacking you because of all the smoke. So while yes the game story tries very hard to convey smoking is bad that's only because of how beneficial smoking is for the experienced player. It's not a coincidence speedrunners even use the Cigars in MGS3. They're a very handy tool for the creative mind. It has a unique risk reward and ensures you always have some kind of support item if you didn't explore the maps well enough for more items like Diazepam.
I really want to emphasize that the enemy SMELLS YOU. Cigarettes are your main source of luring guards without using any noise. Very ingenious and subtle design.
He only smokes when he's stressed. That's the core idea behind the cigarettes in the story. That's why at the very end he stops. He's no longer stressed. He accepted his fate and is happy with the work he has done.
Snake doesn’t quit, he just stops smoking lol
@@Whocares792 MGS4 post credits scene confirms he just flat out quits, cold turkey
cant wait to waste an hour of my life watching this, thank you king
I waste half an hour because i always use x2
@@joseantonioparedes4195tiktok brain
@@joseantonioparedes4195 1.5 for me.. people talk slow IRL now.
Do you also have subway surfers gameplay next to anything you watch
@@FullcircleZA u mad?
Getting lectured by a woman about lung cancer is kinda funny knowing she tries to kill ya lol
26:58 And that same smoker who gave one of his cigs to the rookie 😂😂😂
Moreso considering her fate as well.
And then she fucking dies of cancer later on
@@anthonygurskas4850If this implies her cancer in mgs4, there was no way that was considered at the time of mgs1.
Your analysis of how an adult human could or couldn't swallow a pack of cigarettes is spot on, but unfortunately there's a much simpler explanation. Snake is CIA trained to do this - and since he knew his stomach acids would be suppressed, its far easier and safer to just put the cigaretts into a small plastic bag and swallow them as a somewhat elastic cylinder than a hard cardboard rectangle. This is legitimately training that operatives get and Snake would most certainly know it.
I've heard of drug dealers hiding crack in their stomachs too
They wrap the shit out of it in plastic wrap, lest the crack get out and mess them up 😂
Love all these new words I'm learning in this essay, like "Contribuating" and "Dramastically."
I thought I heard this! "Attribuating" as well lol
Me as an ex cigarette smoker, vaping like a chimney, “oh, Snake, how stupid.” *heaves my vape and coughs* So much healthier… 😂
Put that phantom cigar down venom
Just be like me and smoke weed instead of cigarettes
@user-pc3io5ji1o
Marijuana may be less harmful than nicotine, but both are extremely addictive and harmful to your health.
I shouldn’t be talking with my caffeine dependencies, but my point stands.
@@user-pc3io5ji1oit ain't much better than smoking anything else, for your lungs at least. Habitual use of any substance is kinda cringe tbh.
Look up popcorn lung and that's your answer to vaping
Ex smoker and damn this shit is accurate and i gan FEEL those lighter anxiety moments
haha yup the struggle's of been a smoker and half of the time id forget i gave my lighter to someone, good job for quitting btw ( if that's what you meant been a "ex smoker",) power to you, i wanna quit the vaping man bee coughing like old snake up in here 😂
My Mom's dying of COPD. I thought this was going to be a meme thing so I avoided clicking until I was too beguiled by MGS stuff. I'm pleasantly astonished by what you put together here. Thank you.
sorry about your mother, that sucks take good care of your mama, yeah man i tried to make it light hearted i didn't want to give the impression i was trying to lecture people, just show the dangers and the comedic side of it in mgs glad you enjoyed
"Dramastically" is my new favorite word
smoking a blunt to this
I’m rolling up right now
Ha same
Loser ngl
fr this is making me want to smoke
Filling the pipe while my 3d printer makes me some buttons right now :D
Things I've learned in this video
1. Kojima is cool
2. Snake is the throat goat.
I always used to say : Even smoking in these games has a meaning that even i cant fockin get
Big Boss was a soldier in the 60s so I'm sure he had plenty of time to try plenty of wild substances. It's a shame our friend Hideo Kojima didn't have time to show Big Boss taking drugs and slaying a bear.
Well you see the meaning is quite simple
One guy smokes cigars and he’s the big bad
The other guy (who’s an identical clone of the first guy) smokes cigarettes, so he’s the good guy
Bravo kojima
Ngl always figured it was "wormwood" quotation marks included after a certain point in mgsv.
Heh venom puffin onnat Cart
@@giovannicervantes2053 “by the way, I managed to sneak my dmt cart out here.”
@@giovannicervantes2053shit got me seeing the ghosts of all the people I’ve killed
Thank you voicebox for giving us a hour long mgs video
your welcome mate
You probably won't see this, but Venom is actually not vaping nicotine, he's vaping some special chemical from Terragon, which is eerily similar to THC
The leech: oh God you smoke cigars? Hnnnh nope I'm out of here lmao
Funnily, the boss is actually wrong with using cigars to remove leeches. The burn from the cigars may trigger the leeches to bite harder than to let go.
If he’s smoking lucky strikes he’s probably smoking the unfiltered soft pack a pretty easy to swallow pack seeing as they’re shorter than regular ciggies.
interesting
@@mycardboardbox actually the video of him handing rydan a pack in big shell shows he is. There a small hole in the top. That’s something you only do with a soft pack.
I used to smoke like a pack a day from when i was 15 to around 24-25.
Then i quit smoking and switched to those first popular sub-ohm tank vapes that slowly developed to give off bigger and bigger clouds.
Now recently I switched to a very tiny vape that gives off as little vapor as possible and uses flavorless 20mg/ml nic juice that's taxed and approved by the government over here.
And half the time im out of nic juice anyway, so i'm slowly moving on to those nicotine pouches like Zyn.
I have a long term goal of going fully off nicotine, but im slowly tapering it down. This has been a weird method but it worked for me.
It's all about misdirecting your brain not to focus on it too much and letting it happen on its own.
I quit doing drugs that way too, replacing certain addictions with something less harmful, then slowly lowering the amounts while switching to something even more harmless until its just not worth it to do it anymore.
I'm still smoking CBD crumble every now and then, and maybe taking an extra vyvanse or some shrooms once every blue moon if i go out partying with friends.
But that's a far cry from being a daily smoker of both weed and tobacco, or constantly doing street amphetamine, X, and various script pills while drinking booze.
That's really not the method for everyone tho. But everyone has some method that minimizes the pain while gaining the benefits of quitting.
It's a long term investment thats 100% worth it
while a lot of this information is not new to me, you explained everything very well with the respect, weight, and sincerity it deserves. with the information i didn't know, such as the difference between cigars and cigs in the context of big boss and solid snake as characters, it was so beautifully written that i understood immediately what your point was. the script you wrote was really elegant and strikes a perfect balance between being poetic and intriguing with being informative and clear. i could show this to someone who knows very little about metal gear and they would still understand the connections you are making between smoking and the metal gear franchise. extremely refreshing to hear someone talk intelligently about metal gear's topics, themes, and its deep relationship with the world around us. it's frustrating and exhausting to hear people treat metal gear as something that shouldn't be taken so seriously, as it's "just fiction", but again you treat every topic with sincerity and the respect it needs, especially on the topic of smoking. fantastic video, i'm clearly very (not) normal about it LOL. i love it when other people are deeply analytical and critical of metal gear.
as an aside: disability is a topic brought up a lot in metal gear. i wonder if you'd a) ever want to make a video discussing it and b) feel knowledgeable and respectful enough to do so. the way you discussed old snake's mental illness was very respectful and it was really nice to hear someone acknowledge that. i read the mgs4 novel instead of playing the game, and i thought the novel touched upon that beautifully--- you as well.
Haven't seen a video/essay concerning this subject in MGS from anyone else. Keep up the great work
I know I'm maybe like 1% of smokers but I love it. I started as an adult, it gave me more breaks as a cook. Now, I smoke maybe a pack every two months? It's very rare I have a smoke these days, I toss my pack out for being stale before finishing them. I love a good cigar every now and again too, a real stogie is nice. Whiskey and smokes are a lovely combo for a night with friends. Granted, I started smoking herb at 14 so maybe that has something to do with it. I feel no addiction, it's just a pleasurable experience. I know for non-smokers that could be hard to believe. I'm sure for regular smokers, my lack of smoking is hard to believe too.
Non smoker here: I kinda understand cigars, but don’t cigarettes taste awful? Tried both but the cigarettes were terrible
you sound like a man of moderation 👍quite tough that for some
@juanmejiagomez5514 I think brand is important. I smoke American Spirit and Marlboro, Camel is nasty hahaha.
The attention to detail and research in this video is amazing! Wonderful job!
Yeah i agree, he clearly care about This message
This was great, really enjoyed this. Ive always liked how MGS handled the smoking motiff with its overarching themes
I worked at a prison for a while, you'd be surprised how many people *actually* smuggle stuff up their arse.
If I was forced to give a figure I'd say generally around a third of all contriband is smuggled *inside* a human body, half is essentially thrown/droned in over the fences/walls, and the last little bit is from employees/guards bringing it in themselves.
This is literally an hour long of MGS video essay telling me not to smoke, and I'm still gonna occasionally do it anyway since living in a third world hell hole is stressful.
I'm gonna be completely honest, i wasn't sure if they were still talking about his rectum or not when they were talking about the tunnel with infrared sensors and poison gas.
56:08 when even the second hand smoke is loud asf...
Just discovered your channel yesterday and have been binging your MGS videos. Haven't found a lore channel this entertaining since Futurasound. Keep it up brother.
thank you very much brother, that means a great deal, futurasound is a brilliant content creator would be great to colab with him, mgs is such a huge game and there so much to pick apart! so lets keep investigating 👍
As an ex-smoker, you've made me love this game series even more than I already did.
I tried smoking when I was in high school and thank God I didn't get addicted to such a habit
What about the forgotten Snake clone, Gas Snake? What with his fondness for wooden and cob pipes, which he enjoyed with noted historical figure J. R. R. Tolkien.
Is this video done by ai? In three minutes I've heard you repeat yourself three times. I get it. Smoking has been used to say someone is a rebel. Am I even talking to a person? Or just ai garbage that can't keep track of what it said one minute ago and so repeats itself constantly in an endless loop?
wow very negtive bro are you ok do you need to talk to your therapist again? ☺ keep been salty bruh
I love the double standard they point out. Snake is cool, and smokes! But smoking is literally bad for your health. Lol
Wait.......they took out the cigarettes from the latest Metal Gear Remasters? Didn't MGS1 have a puzzle where you need them to see the laser wires?
Ugh dying... *[Earrape coughing fit]* lumbago... *[Even louder earrape coughing fit]*
OK Officially The mgs fandom has reached arkham levels of insanity
Snake is canonically a throat goat. Amazing.
41:36 hahahhaah i thought of breaking bad here when walter white and jesse are cooking and walter makes him put out his cig
*_Maybe the real profound anti-smoking message was inside of us all along._*
Ya know, I don't think I ever considered how many uses drug addiction could have in games. The only other game I can think of that used addiction as a mechanic would be LISA, but it's a lot more binary there. Seems like a fun tool to play with in regards to game design
Edit: remembered it's also a thing in Fear & Hunger 2
There's a famous photo with HK, Mads, & the dude from the Walking Dead all crouched + smoking cigarettes working on the backpacking future game they did together & it makes me wonder if HK actually is anti-smoking. That shot sure glamorizes cigarettes.
DMC also is pretty anti smoking
59:48 "Box life!"
There's a famous Japanese surrealist novella called The Box Man that I'm pretty sure influenced HK. It's worth a read if you're a fan. Short book. Bleak. But short & a classic of the genre, & the author is considered a precursor to later Japanese fiction writers.
Watching this video takes an hour that I'll never get back.
Meanwhile a cigarette or 2 takes 5 minutes and i still lose an hour of my life.
Think smarter kids
They wanted to discourage smoking, but they also made it look cool as fuck. Bit of a problem there, Kojimbo.
15:00 I’m not done watching yet but they also sell soft packs of cigarettes. They’d probably be more flexible and easy to swallow. Maybe filterless too which would make them smaller. I’m not saying one should do it, I’m just saying it’s more plausible than it seems.
Another guy made a 14 second version of this video.
hey
@@died2pinwheel your video was great ngl.
This is a genuine masterpiece. Well worded and researched. You have earned my subscription, keep up the good work.
“You’re pretty good.” 👉👉
i don't think people know exactly how many uses the smokes had in this series. there were uses like if you didn't have any drugs to stop shaking when using the PSG1 you could slightly tame the trembling with the cigs. in MGS3 you could use the cigar for light in the dark cave before you get the torch. also i think the bees won't attack you if you have it equipped near a shot down bee hive. in the first game the cigs can extend your time on the final countdown. yeah the cigs had the obvious smoke and lasers thing but they did a lot more if you looked for it.
In MGS4 smoking also restored your psyche gauge, and you could use them to lure enemies into traps since they smell the smoke.
Solid smokes so much he looks older than his dad😂
No way Snake "swallowed" that pack of cigarettes, if you catch my drift.
I've never spoked in my life. Pointless daily $ drain that costs $10,000s extra eventually that also costs lung health
Meanwhile, I consume caffeine daily with the excuse that I need it to work fast enough to make my managers less angry
Anyone who's seen a lit cigar at night knows that you very much cannot use one as a torch
That's why in the game you only get minimal lighting from it. You can barely make out Snakes face and can only see things that he's right in front of. You basically have to crawl to see anything with the cigar. Fire your gun gives much better light than the cigar if you're that desperate for a light.
bro took us to yappington city
I don't think major zero using the cigarettes to see beams "Today's soldiers rely too much on ready made equipment"
It has been 1,247 days since I quit. 37395 cigarettes not smoked. Saving $15,892. I still crave cigarettes every day. I’m glad I quit.
The perfect video for a quick smoke break 👍
Great video! I'm surprised I've never seen your channel before with how much MGS content UA-cam recommends me.
Hey, thanks!
Did you actually get David Hayter to voice those funny bits?? Loved this video. As a heavy smoker myself, I need to be reminded that what I do isn't the best thing. Quitting smoking is a BITCH.
hahaha na i wish it feels like a rip off not gunna lie but hiring david hayter gets expensive when your broke, dude trust me i know i was a heavy smoker for awhile i replaced it for vaping myself i keep telling myself all the time to cut the crap out and get back to the gym lol
@@mycardboardboxi switched to a vape too. Much better!
my fav item is the magazines, particularly in mgs4. well.. too many items. but the emotion magazines were fun to play with!
ah yes! they were great fun too emotion bullets to
@@mycardboardbox and the tangeshima, that reload Animation was the first time I learned about traditional firearms, opened my eyes to the world of them and now, as an adult, I am a fanatic!
Take it from someone who smokes… it’s the worst thing you can ever do to yourself
1:43 No one gonna mention the cat singing along to the music? Nah?
I smoked more playing MGS than any other game it enhances the experience
what about weed ?
@@mycardboardbox Weed & MGS go well together especially V
used to love it back in the day, especially playing skyrim to, that game was so wavy and trippy at night
@@mycardboardbox weed and video games go splendidly together. My favorite games to get high on are usually rogue likes or FPS games. It feels right having a slower feeling while on a fast paced game.
@@craigcaulfield85that one homie who passed out when they wake up after you spark a new joint “V has come to.”
21:20 "you know a whole lot about science, too bad i tuned you out before you started talking"
i ended up smoking cigars because of Big Boss
This is a great video but at the same time it seemed off, I’m not sure if you were using chat GPT to write this or rather touch it up but it certainly came off that way to me
na its done purely by myself i try to keep it professional and light hearted at the same time hence why it comes of odd i am the voice box and that's what i do i mix it up, i dont just stick to one tone and speaking style throughout the videos i make hence the name and my gimmick, so if it sounds "off" then i dunno what to tell you
@boardbox it is just some of the delivery, grammar and sentences. it is a great video but I got the same impression, no knock against you especially as the editing and info contained is great. but when a line like "despite the fictional nature of the brand" is said in reference to lucky strike, one of the most famous brands of cigarettes in the world, it seems like AI yknow. If you meant lucky striker you didn't say that, I believe thats the name used in metal gear 1.
Forgot the movie "Escape from LA". Man I wish it was real.
Snake psy-opped me into smoking. 5 years and goin' strong baybeeeee
Glad otacon helped snake smuggle out his ciggies
The reason the phantom cigarette or cigar works the way it does is because cigarettes make you look older than you are after a while I'm 20-year-old can look 30 after a while so that's why I can speed up time Peace and have a great day
I expected this to be a hour long shitpost
The hand glider wasnt meant to calm Snake nerves, it was to tell you which way the wind was blowing. You could use the gass grenades for a similar effect but it had nothing to do with nerves
try listen to what i said then, i said the cigarette's 😂 honestly dude
@mycardboardbox I meant the sections. The hand glider jump needed the wind blowing up in odder to make the jump. If the wind wasn't blowing right, that meant if you jumped, you wouldn't make it and die.
The cigarettes' smoke allowed the players to see where the wind was blowing and know when to jump. You can also see the wind blowing with the gas grenades to and yes, you can use the gas grenades to make the jump. It's a lot harder but doable.
But Snake isn't smoking to calm his nerves, I mean, he could be, but the game doesn't directly tell you that
I mean, yeah... Smoking is bad...
but have ya ever heard of *_nanomachines,_** son?*
Reject tobacco embrace zaza
Can be just as addictive bro 😭
@@Gamingproductionv2waking up sick when you haven’t had the daily zaza sesh
Ofc he can swallow a full pack of cigarettes. He is a Snake.
I been smokeless for 24 years but badly addicted to caffine and soda so its no better but i accept it
In all my years never knew the boss smoked shes my favorite boss fight
I've seen things m8. A friend of mine is a 2 pack a day from like 15 years. I brought him to the gym. he went for like 20 minutes running on the tapis roulant. And lightly winded he asked: is it enough for a warmup? i was like O_o
amazing video, honestly from someone thats a smoker, smoking does give you that lil time to think
Metal gear games make me wanna smoke so I can quit smoking
all that just for snake to make it look cool as fuck and reverse all that work
Snake had to smoke to give everyone else a handicap lmao
Instructions uncler became a sneaky smoker.
Sneeky
And then MGS4 revealed that Naomi had terminal cancer all along that she suppressed with nanomachines.
I do like the effort the studio undertook in MGS4 to show Snake always properly disposing of his butts. It's so irritating that many real smokers don't consider their plastic filters to be litter, and just toss it down on the street like it was nothing.
As i am a young smoker this video makes me rethink a bit
Perfect video to watch while smoking a cigar
Now tell us why Fragile lights one in the DS2 trailer pls!
I quit smoking 15 minutes ago
I was not expecting much coming into this video, but I found myself falling in love it. It also grew my appreciation into metal gear as a whole (I am an MGS newbie :P). I also was increasingly concerned for solid snakes health lmaoooo. Great work :D
Lucky Strike is a Real cigarette brand tho? 13:20
i know i was meant to say non fiction but i f ed up so yep deal with it
You wouldn't say non fiction to describe a real brand of smokes
59:40 I... never actually noticed that the magazine increases your stress.
I was uh busy looking at other stuff...
Watching this video smoking a rollie 😈
This is why I drink.