Hyundai IONIQ 5 | Under the Hood

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  • Cory and Jordan take a closer look under the hood of the IONIQ 5.
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  • @ouch1011
    @ouch1011 2 роки тому +78

    As someone who has worked on cars for nearly 20 years, many of them older, I appreciate that Hyundai has not gone the Tesla route of integrating several components into one box. Serviceability is a significant factor that seems to be increasingly getting ignored, but it is critical for keeping cars on the road as they get older. The more components that you integrate into one service part, the more expensive that part gets. People may be willing to spend $2000 on a box in order to keep their 3 or 4 year old car on the road, but they probably are not going to be willing to when that car is 8-10+ years old. Those cars end up in junk yards. Being able to service components affordably is super important. I would much rather have a more serviceable vehicle and sacrifice some of the grossly over-rated frunk space.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 2 роки тому

      I'd that "one service Mary" is made in huge numbers, making it cheap, is interchangeable between models, and easy to remove due to lack of plumbing, I'd say it would save money when it comes to keeping cars "on the road".
      Not to mention, no guesswork faultfinding, fitting the wrong part and having to find another component.

    • @zblus
      @zblus 2 роки тому +13

      what about the argument of, less parts -> less chance of something breaking down -> lower chance of needing service in the first place (therefore, last longer too)?

    • @jessyhagar7174
      @jessyhagar7174 5 місяців тому +1

      This , this , 1000% this. 🫡 ouch has hit it on the nose (mechanic for over …20 years as well 🥂)

    • @jessyhagar7174
      @jessyhagar7174 5 місяців тому +1

      (I own both a tesla and an one of these, I appreciate my window regulators working, having a volume knob, working wipers and defroster I can find WAY more than having a “frunk or an octo-valve” not even to mention the superior, Hyundai service, and range.

  • @TheKevlar
    @TheKevlar 2 роки тому +76

    Explaining the evolution of design changes over the years is BRILLIANT! If you could use old footage or part comparisons like you have done with the Tesla Plaid, then your videos have a higher value to us viewers. Speed of innovation is now part of buying experience...

    • @rkgsd
      @rkgsd 2 роки тому +1

      I think the Hyundai is a press loaner so they don't have permission to take the guts apart. On the other hand, VW and Ford *wanted* Munro to take their vehicles apart to give there honest thoughts.

  • @krama4529
    @krama4529 2 роки тому +55

    Please let Jordan off the hook and give him an episode of his own. I think he is a natural and could easily fill an entire Video with his knowledge, and to me at least it seems that he is somewhat being held back by Kory & Sandy. But as usual it was a great and interesting Video, Thanks for sharing your insight with us!

    • @sandyt4343
      @sandyt4343 2 роки тому +1

      Each one of the crew has so much to offer in background and knowledge that they are always sharing a limited time with every subject but I think your point is valid. Cory is such a wealth of technical understanding and has such a digestible way of explaining what he’s seeing that I always come away with more insight into what I’ve just watched, and always a little dazzled by his knowledge. I would like to see Jordan do one of his own and just dive in headfirst. It’s obvious he has a great deal to offer. This is a fantastic channel and such a great learning platform.

  • @terrysullivan1992
    @terrysullivan1992 2 роки тому +25

    Getting better and better. Cory relaxed. Jordan is so clear and concise it's amazing. No wasted "ums' and "ahs". He totally understands the engineering and is comfortable in his skin. I love Sandy, but sometimes I just want simple clear explanations without all the other stuff.

    • @KunalPatel87
      @KunalPatel87 2 роки тому +1

      I come here to hear the extra stuff from Sandy haha

  • @wngimageanddesign9546
    @wngimageanddesign9546 2 роки тому +27

    One of the best channels on UA-cam for technical analysis, and detailed breakdowns of current technology. This old gear head appreciates the deep dives, and being an EE, the EVs are very interesting.

    • @mixalis6168
      @mixalis6168 2 роки тому +1

      Yup, and a must watch, before buying an EV! Thats why i want the model Y

  • @fred993a
    @fred993a 2 роки тому +24

    Cory and Jordan - I appreciate your engineering analysis so much - thank you!

  • @adrianwilliamson6861
    @adrianwilliamson6861 2 роки тому +28

    Looks like the Koreans understand the advantage of serviceability more than these guys. Intergration just makes replacing faulty components so much more expensive....and profitable for the manufacturers.
    The trouble with Munro they can't see the forest for the trees.

    • @bitsorbytes
      @bitsorbytes 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah that filter is so easy to change..... After you remove the frunk first ;)

    • @cjsk2783
      @cjsk2783 2 роки тому +7

      @@bitsorbytes You don't have to remove the frunk to change to the filter though ;) there's an opening inside the frunk. Hyundai is known for serviceability.

    • @AlexWhittemore
      @AlexWhittemore 2 роки тому +1

      @@bitsorbytes Not only is there a pop-out panel in the frunk to make it easy and tool-less, but what's more: the frunk is SO easy to remove! This blew me away: there's a light in the center-front to show you what's in there while you rummage. It would have been pretty easy to unplug by just pulling out the bolts, lifting the front a bit, and feeling around. But they were so thoughtful they added a whole extra connector on the far-right, so you can unplug the connector visually before you even undo the bolts. JUST to avoid someone not noticing the light and ripping off the harness.

    • @bitsorbytes
      @bitsorbytes 2 роки тому

      @@AlexWhittemore Great to hear Alex it is so easy.... So how often do you need to replace that air filter then?

    • @AlexWhittemore
      @AlexWhittemore 2 роки тому

      @@bitsorbytes they say once every year or 15k miles. For how easy and cheap it is, I’ll probably go with something like half that. Maybe once during fire season too.

  • @joenye43
    @joenye43 2 роки тому +7

    I have such pleasure in watching such a competent well executed review - Thanks and keep it up

  • @don.timeless4993
    @don.timeless4993 2 роки тому +3

    The A/C filter place is so amazing! Every thing is neat

  • @richardnedbalek1968
    @richardnedbalek1968 2 роки тому +7

    6:50 Jordan was very effective in demonstrating the ease with which you can replace the cabin air filter. (Wish I didn’t have to remove my glovebox door! 🤨) 7:36 Cory gave an easy-to-understand explanation of how manufacturers easily adjust the size of heat exchangers across various vehicle models. Nice job, Munro! 👏

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      Of course you'd have to wonder why a smaller one would be advantageous.

  • @lesbendo6363
    @lesbendo6363 2 роки тому

    Video quality, is improving. Love the zoom in on areas of discussion. Great Job Zack!

  • @camalexander8843
    @camalexander8843 2 роки тому

    Great video! Amazing how you can convey the information without being rude.

  • @BatteryTestChannel
    @BatteryTestChannel 2 роки тому

    Your explanation is so brilliant. You tell us what to look for and why, which helps us learn. Thank you!

  • @BillyBob-fd5ht
    @BillyBob-fd5ht 2 роки тому +4

    Glad you put the IONIQ5 on to see what under the hood

  • @downhiller71
    @downhiller71 2 роки тому +6

    I appreciate your engineering analysis! Please more IONIQ 5 content

  • @kelindrawn
    @kelindrawn 2 роки тому +16

    I wish my Model 3's air filter were this easy to replace 😅 Thanks for the video!

    • @princesses2909
      @princesses2909 2 роки тому +1

      Yes. Toyota and Honda make their cabin air filters easy to replace, but you have to realize that the Model 3 has 2 of them just like Mercedes and they put the filters wherever they can. Not saying Teslas couldn’t do it but also because they probably don’t want you to messing around with the car to do it yourself if you’re not mechanically inclined.

    • @kelindrawn
      @kelindrawn 2 роки тому +2

      @@princesses2909 Tesla does give you detailed instructions how to do it yourself, it's just a bit annoying to do. Doing that every 2 years... I suppose I can live with that.

    • @Anthony__420
      @Anthony__420 2 роки тому

      It’s not that hard. Watch UA-cam videos. Very simple just need the right tools

  • @andrewcoffman2213
    @andrewcoffman2213 2 роки тому +2

    Great camera work and B-roll integration on this :)

  • @someoneneintown
    @someoneneintown 2 роки тому +8

    Great to see that Sandy is giving these young gents a chance to get to the stage ;-) Brilliantly explained. Love the show!

  • @perahauraki2985
    @perahauraki2985 2 роки тому

    Nice breakdown. Clear, concise and seemingly accurate.
    Thanks

  • @mrv6968
    @mrv6968 2 роки тому +4

    I believe a few more tutorials and I am ready to apply.
    haha
    You guys are all excellent teachers.
    Sandy must be an awesome guy to work with because he has an amazing team!

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 2 роки тому +4

    🤗 THANKS CORY …FOR SHARING JORDAN’s EXPERIENCE AND GIVING THE RESPECT IT DESERVES 🤗😍😍😍

  • @AraCarrano
    @AraCarrano 2 роки тому +9

    Wonderful topic coverage, Would love for an on-screen graphic or two defining acronyms and/or initials used in the voice track. Thank you for your work to make adaptable/leaner designs and products.

  • @Syphronix
    @Syphronix 2 роки тому +2

    great shot composition on this one!

  • @tomeli282
    @tomeli282 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for reviewing the Ioniq 5 👍

  • @JohnyForElectric
    @JohnyForElectric 2 роки тому +1

    Cory and Jordan - super appreciate the in-depth and objective view on Ioniq's 5 hood or under the hood :) It would be interesting to consider an objective look at ID.4 and comparison to Ioniq 5. Since both are representing the innovation by "traditional" manufacturers, and both of these cars have a very similar target audience of drivers... Thank you and keep up the good work!

  • @TonyJewell0
    @TonyJewell0 2 роки тому

    Love these insights and analysis. Thx!

  • @rodolfoyoshii8345
    @rodolfoyoshii8345 2 роки тому +35

    Cory sounds more and more confident hosting videos. I think taking the Plaid to the track helped him shaking off those nerves. I like his methodical style but sometimes I miss Sandy's raw coughing, and unpolished cowboy when speaking the truth.
    These videos might be extremely valuable for any potential buyer of an EV.

    • @apolycarp
      @apolycarp 2 роки тому +1

      Damn dude, you miss an old man’s coughing? Try and go outside for a little fresh air.

    • @AnythingMike
      @AnythingMike 2 роки тому +1

      @@apolycarp you can't understand.

  • @John.0z
    @John.0z 2 роки тому +26

    Thank you Cory and Jordan. I have a Hyundai with the cabin filter under the dashboard. It is a diabolically hard thing to access. Moving that to the location in this car is a *really* positive step. As ICE cars tend to have some part of the engine in that location, such a simple move is usually impossible.
    Moving that item to this new location is a real world benefit that should not be undervalued.

    • @drkastenbrot
      @drkastenbrot 2 роки тому +1

      Many cars have it in the glovebox which is not as convenient but completely fine to service. Although i really like to see EVs using larger, more capable filters due to having more space available.

    • @John.0z
      @John.0z 2 роки тому +4

      @@drkastenbrot I have to remove the entire glovebox to access mine. It is still decidedly hard to access the unit the filter is in. There is a leaf causing a buzz in it now, and I am loath to go through the torture to clean it out. 😞

    • @dogbreath6974
      @dogbreath6974 2 роки тому +1

      @@John.0z How often do they need cleaning?

    • @koma-k
      @koma-k 2 роки тому +1

      @@dogbreath6974 usually more often than owners can be bothered with when they're hidden away like many are... I must admit that I didn't change the cabin air filter many times on my last ICE car (2009 Ford Mondeo), mostly due to it being so hard to access. I've changed the filter more times during the three years I've had the Tesla Model S (old, small filter - the newer ones may be a bit more fiddly) than I did during nine years owning the Mondeo (ok, so the first few years I let the local dealer do it during yearly service...)

    • @cjwilson54
      @cjwilson54 2 роки тому

      @@dogbreath6974 Most cabin air filters should be replaced every 15,000 miles, but your vehicle may be different.

  • @broli123
    @broli123 2 роки тому +4

    I actually do not dislike the packaging under the hood except for the atrocious 12V battery. Cars and their parts still break down I love how accessible they are in this car rather than have them hyper packaged like in a Tesla making serviceability much more complex and thus expensive. In fact there is no study showing that one is more reliable than the other, especially in Tesla's model S case some parts are notoriously more prone to failure. Would be nice if Munro also addresses this and see what changed to improve this.

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      Good comment and I agree. My Kona EV is much the same. I can reach everything and the parts are all good quality.

  • @dburke1804
    @dburke1804 2 роки тому +7

    So a car designed for mass deployment, ease of access and repairability. It also doesn't look like an amorphous blob.
    Electric cars are now grand. The good ones are all fine. So it comes down to smaller things like being a fresh design update, or what suits you or can it be easily serviced with a loaner available.

  • @butlerweldingfabrication7209
    @butlerweldingfabrication7209 2 роки тому +2

    wow great review of this car. a lot of interesting things going on there. keep in mind EVERYONE NOT EVERY CAR / TRUCK IS A TESLA. ( I HAVE MY OWN OPIION ABOUT THAT COMPANY) I did learn a lot from this. thank you so much..

  • @etalon3141
    @etalon3141 2 роки тому

    Interesting point on the parametric design. I guess its less of an issue to have dissimilar parts if the parts themselves are essentially the same thing, but with a variable tweaked.

  • @ElPsiCongroo
    @ElPsiCongroo 2 роки тому +2

    Honestly this video had a lot more value per time, constructive hypothesizing/brainstorming, and less cynicism without Sandy around. Good job!

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      I totally agree and I didn't have to yell at the screen as much. Only when Cory mentioned a valid reason for the two coolant loops but didn't think to question why they were different colours.

  • @jbarvideo12
    @jbarvideo12 2 роки тому +3

    Beautiful engineering comments and videography. If I weren't 84, with my 2 EE degrees I would send my resume to Munroe Live.

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks Jay! We would still love to see your resume; Please send along to HR@leandesign.com

  • @bshandyateverything
    @bshandyateverything 2 роки тому

    Vocab lesson today. Thank you!

  • @leoesse9347
    @leoesse9347 2 роки тому

    You guys at Munroe are awesome! Sandy is so funny! 😂

  • @WoodlawnSound
    @WoodlawnSound 2 роки тому +2

    "Parametric design" - I love that I learn something from every episode!

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 2 роки тому

      #PROENGINEER (ref: Cad Software, PTC/Parametric Technologies Corp circa 1995, or at least that's when i learned of it, think it came out earlier though)

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      But the example given seemed a bit pointless. A thinner cooler may be fractionally cheaper but provides no other value. I expect they design to a common environmental range for all markets.

  • @zilogfan
    @zilogfan 2 роки тому

    Awesome video. Both of you are starting to insert some opinion that sas prev sandys skill. This opinion and your accuracy is what makes the content next level.

  • @Wrangler-fp4ei
    @Wrangler-fp4ei 2 роки тому +8

    Very nice breakdown. I do find myself disagreeing about the serviceable fuses. Fuses goes from time to time. Long term, the owner wants to be able to replace those fuses and even the 12v battery. Not everyone wants go to the dealer which can be expensive.

    • @awebuser5914
      @awebuser5914 2 роки тому +1

      Yup, I honestly don't like Tesla's model where they try to detect overloads in software and expose the (very expensive) front control board to potential over-currents. This chap has a very good video on the Tesla low-voltage circuitry, but as a designer, I cringe a bit at the assumptions they make... See: ua-cam.com/video/fUCgLCbX_18/v-deo.html

  • @dennisberg570
    @dennisberg570 2 роки тому

    Wow , very informative and well done . Thanks Guys . If I had the know how I would love to work for Munro And Associates , the future for Evs is looking very bright indeed .

  • @bernardchristensen9705
    @bernardchristensen9705 2 роки тому +2

    Really enjoyed your review, I was hoping to get a close look under the hood. EVs are evolving quickly, getting better all the time. I can hardly wait to test drive the Ioniq 5.

  • @jonshroyer364
    @jonshroyer364 2 роки тому +30

    The Ioniq 5 has two different coolants. They have a Low Conductivity fluid which I think is used for the HV battery and a Standard for all other systems. I would like more technical info on this. I don’t think any other EV has this difference. The Low Conductivity is to be changed every 40,000 miles or 36 months, and I understand it is very expensive.

    • @miguellopes6669
      @miguellopes6669 2 роки тому

      Tesla has one. Having two has no advantages besides saving R&D cost.

    • @celeron55
      @celeron55 2 роки тому +6

      @@miguellopes6669 Well, Tesla also doesn't have an 800V system and could have calculated the risks differently. If it's also expensive and has to be changed regularly, it does make sense to have a limited amount of it, i.e. a separate system. I don't know what the rate of leaking coolant into batteries is in these types of systems, but for every million vehicles, you probably end up with some leaky ones, at least in accidents.

    • @Enemji
      @Enemji 2 роки тому +4

      They are designing the car to be “serviceable” so that dealerships can continue to generate income

    • @charlesbridgford254
      @charlesbridgford254 2 роки тому

      BMW i3 or has two different coolant loops. Not sure why.

    • @jonshroyer364
      @jonshroyer364 2 роки тому

      @@charlesbridgford254 Coolant loops are different than actual coolant material. Most should have 3 loops - battery, electronics and cabin.

  • @connorleschinsky
    @connorleschinsky 2 роки тому +37

    Hyundai and Kia have a lot of potential to reduce the numbers of hoses and their lengths. This reminded me of the Mach-E thermal management hosing madness... It seems like there's potential opportunity to make some changes for the components along with their wiring and hoses to be moved around and/or combined. Once they deal with those wiring and hoses, hopefully they'll come out with a nicely polished front trunk cargo space and possibly some weight reduction. Small things can turn into a big deal when everything adds up.

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 2 роки тому +5

      I think KIA/Hyundai are more Advanced than FORD Muck-e.
      Ford is too outdated and clunky.

    • @AudiTTQuattro2003
      @AudiTTQuattro2003 2 роки тому +6

      Sure, but what if it is cheaper to produce it this way than a Tesla? Should they go more complex with something like an octivalve system, just to be like Tesla?

    • @markplott4820
      @markplott4820 2 роки тому +8

      @@AudiTTQuattro2003 - Tesla is way cheaper to produce, and savings in materials cost, weight Penalty, and efficiency Loss.
      no one on EARTH can Engineer like Tesla can , the model 3/Y were design by SpaceX. the Octovalve & Super Manifold was SpaceX.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 2 роки тому +2

      Go back and watch that Mach E video. I think you might find that this is a MUCH more compact assembly despite also being two coolant runs. The Mach E was also using loads of generic hoses and connectors which limits how tight of a bend they can go through which negatively impacts the orientation, parts lengths, and manufacturing assembly. These vehicle-specific hoses may be slightly more expensive up-front cost but should be faster to assemble and allow for better packaging.

    • @sports2hedz542
      @sports2hedz542 2 роки тому +6

      I agree with others that it looked better than Ford but not up to Tesla. The great thing to know is this vehicle already has great range, so relatively simple packaging improvements should improve efficiency even more. I think Hyundai/Kia will be a real force in the future of EVs. Their purchase of Boston Dynamics was no coincidence either. They are shooting for autonomy asap.

  • @BassKlef1
    @BassKlef1 Рік тому

    Interesting insight to the Ioniq 5. I have an Ioniq 5 Limited AWD, and the problem I am having issues with the A/C heating module. For lack of a better description, it has died after 600 miles and 4 months later still no sign of the part(s) needed to repair. I am now only driving the car in the early morning and the late afternoon/evening to tolerate the heat in southern California. From the various Ioniq 5 forums, I am not the only one having issues. I have contacted Hyundai and unfortunately the supply chain issues is causing this issue, and the newness of the car for technicians working on it.🤨

  • @CyberDude76
    @CyberDude76 2 роки тому +2

    Could you pour all the lines of Ionic5 like you did for Ford Mustang? I'd like to have indirect comparison.

  • @mrpangy4174
    @mrpangy4174 2 роки тому +2

    Ahhh. I had a thought, could you do a series on what eventually fails on the EV's and how easy the design is to service the cars (and cost)?

  • @gjermundnorumbugge7373
    @gjermundnorumbugge7373 2 роки тому +1

    I think videos where you clearly compare parts to that of other car makers would be interesting and great for the viewers. Honestly would also bring in a wider audience. The kind of audience that don't already know a great deal about car manufacturing

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 2 роки тому

    Not sold , saw a towing test on a Rivian , worked out to about 30 miles of towing a truck on a trailer before dead battery. Lithium batteries are 70-100x the weight of equivalent gasoline power output.

  • @dieselpub2
    @dieselpub2 2 роки тому

    Having the power distribution system hard mounted and not integrated into the drive unit underneath is IMO a great design choice to make service easier. A bit more expensive to manufacture since there is an additional mounting step, but way better for the customer who will get charge for the service IMO.

  • @LongDistanceMotorcycleFans
    @LongDistanceMotorcycleFans 2 роки тому

    You guys are awesome. Cory, 17 years! How old were you when you started?

  • @jordanschultz2232
    @jordanschultz2232 2 роки тому +2

    Jordan Jordan Jordan Jordan! Keep this guy coming great stuff!

  • @kalmdwn7711
    @kalmdwn7711 2 роки тому +1

    Forget about frunks. Easy to inspect & service the underhood stuff.

  • @anthonyxuereb792
    @anthonyxuereb792 2 роки тому

    I do like the placement of the cabin pollen/air cleaner and as mentioned you need to be a contortionist to access it in some vehicles (my Citroen C5 is one) and on a Honda Accord 2004 you have to remove the glovebox lining which isn't too bad. I just wish I had a CV to email.

  • @e.o9470
    @e.o9470 2 роки тому +19

    Now that they’ve got much space in the absence of engine they’ve neatly put everything on sight and easily accessible. Korean and Japanese don’t really care about frunk as much as the easily accessible technical parts fact!

    • @lemongavine
      @lemongavine 2 роки тому +1

      Removing the frunk on a Tesla is fairly simple. I’d rather have a nice frunk, even if I need to spend an extra ten minutes removing it in the unlikely event that I might need to get to those components.

    • @cdbuiles
      @cdbuiles 2 роки тому +7

      yep. I like this building philosphy rather than hyperintegration madness.

    • @e.o9470
      @e.o9470 2 роки тому +1

      @@lemongavine My point was not the frunk, this one has it although very shallow but the engineering behind those part’s positioning is evident, an engineer can understand what i’m saying! they’ve modeled everything for wrenching and changing if it’s necessary it’s a Japanese/Korean philosophy! Germans don’t do that because of the pride that they have in their products! I guess Tesla is closer the European philosophy.

    • @kyotosunsetdreams6105
      @kyotosunsetdreams6105 2 роки тому +2

      @@cdbuiles Luddite boomer can't innovate so he sips his bud light and says "yep... that inefficency is actually a good thing".

    • @Enemji
      @Enemji 2 роки тому

      You missed the part that they have more parts much like a regular ICE vehicle. All they did was remiove the engine and used an electric motor

  • @joshuasmith7369
    @joshuasmith7369 2 роки тому +2

    I can disassemble anything; it's putting things back together, I don't do very well.

  • @mrpangy4174
    @mrpangy4174 2 роки тому

    I like the switching back and forth but I agree with Max Kramolisch. We don't know what goes on behind the scene so let me simply say GOOD job.

  • @voldemarz
    @voldemarz 2 роки тому +1

    Would like to see you dig into internals of Polestar 2

  • @waynethefridgemanosborne8984
    @waynethefridgemanosborne8984 2 роки тому

    Great content. Would apply for the job if I wasn't in Australia.

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому +1

      And they're not in a warm part of the world.

  • @rogerstarkey5390
    @rogerstarkey5390 2 роки тому +1

    2 loops
    That would explain the "high temp" and "low temp" readings seen on OBD2 scanners?
    Those temps seem to throttle charging below 20°c and above 45°c (ish)

    • @abraxastulammo9940
      @abraxastulammo9940 2 роки тому

      I think it has something to do the cooling fluid completely flows in curves from front to back through the battery while e.g. ID.4 has a dedicated fork for each module from the main flow through the middle and gathers at the outside again before returning.

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      Cory made a good point and it may be that what the battery wants is sometimes at odds with what the occupants want. I had thought it was to minimise volume of the expensive and perishable non-conductive coolant outside the battery loop but I think Cory was right.

  • @MrFoxRobert
    @MrFoxRobert 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @gjermundnorumbugge7373
    @gjermundnorumbugge7373 2 роки тому +3

    I would love a straight up comparison video on some of the parts and pieces in a car like this, compared to one of Tesla's model 3 or y

    • @bradstewart7007
      @bradstewart7007 2 роки тому

      They did that a bit with the Mustang teardown where Sandy needed smelling salts after seeing the cooling system.

  • @dionaeaqi07
    @dionaeaqi07 2 роки тому

    How did you guys remove the frunk? I missed that part. Any tools required to do that job?

  • @jaydeister9305
    @jaydeister9305 2 роки тому +22

    Wow! Great report! Tesla seems to be far ahead in engineering, etc. This is much better than standard yt reviews and replays of automaker's slick advertising.

    • @SiuLeung
      @SiuLeung 2 роки тому +8

      I wouldn't say far ahead in engineering, just a different purpose of direction. Tesla's charging tech is already less advanced. I don't mind not having a frunk if I can access stuff for maintenance much easier. The cabin filters on my Model 3 are a pain to access. This seems way easier. I would also imagine cleaning out the A/C coils would be easier on the Hyundai. The moldy smell from the Model 3 could be a design flaw too.

    • @jeffsawyer
      @jeffsawyer 2 роки тому +6

      @@SiuLeung what makes you say the charging tech is less advanced? What are you comparing?

    • @gjermundnorumbugge7373
      @gjermundnorumbugge7373 2 роки тому +6

      @@SiuLeung They are far ahead though... It's plain to see. And saying the charging tech "already" less advanced seems to imply everyone will catch up in other aspects real soon, as if their charging tech is less advanced. What exactly are you pointing to here? Tesla hater detected?

    • @arkster00
      @arkster00 2 роки тому +7

      ​@@SiuLeung The only thing is that electric cars don't really need a lot of maintenance. In this car maybe since they added a plethora of hoses which could conceptually leak and might need addressing. But that brings us to the point why'd they take this design approach anyway? The car does not look like it was built as an electric vehicle but a general purpose car where they just pulled out the motor/trans and retrofitted an electric motor and supporting components.

    • @JAM_2024
      @JAM_2024 2 роки тому

      @@SiuLeung the Hyundai doesn’t even pre-heat the battery before charging. What are you even talking about with your statement about Tesla?

  • @eugeniustheodidactus8890
    @eugeniustheodidactus8890 2 роки тому +12

    *Well done!* Great close-ups, well edited. Crazy that Hyundai still uses a 50 lb lead-acid battery!

    • @AudiTTQuattro2003
      @AudiTTQuattro2003 2 роки тому +10

      ...yeah, the nerve. Who would want to be able to replace a battery anywhere in the country, when you can depend on Tesla service to schedule you an appointment in three or four weeks.

    • @SiuLeung
      @SiuLeung 2 роки тому +2

      All EV's use them because of legacy 12-volt electronic systems in all autos. Even Teslas still use a lead-acid battery. You can upgrade it for 12-volt lithium for $$$. They haven't engineered away the separate 12-volt battery to integrate it into the car's main battery pack for some reason. Maybe they can't? who knows.

    • @StormyDog
      @StormyDog 2 роки тому +5

      @@SiuLeung Tesla has switched to Lithium Ion recently to replace the lead acid batteries. I believe the new battery is a nominal 14.4v. There's still too many legacy systems to go to 48v yet.

    • @KyleHubb
      @KyleHubb 2 роки тому +2

      @@AudiTTQuattro2003 Those batteries practically last forever.

    • @KyleHubb
      @KyleHubb 2 роки тому +3

      @@SiuLeung Tesla are using a Li-Ion 12V that's as light as a feather. You're late.
      Pace of Innovation is all that matters - Elon Musk

  • @MikeYoungeasytravel
    @MikeYoungeasytravel 2 роки тому +4

    Cory, you seem to do a better video with Jordan. Good video!

  • @Van_Liberty
    @Van_Liberty 2 роки тому +12

    I Guarantee owners of this EV will pour windshield washer fluid into the coolant tank with the blue fluid. Having the washer fluid tank next to the coolant tanks is an invitation for bad things, expensive things...

    • @richardnedbalek1968
      @richardnedbalek1968 2 роки тому +2

      That’s nothing... BOLT owners pour FIRE RETARDANT into their windshield washer reservoirs! 🔥 😈

    • @abraxastulammo9940
      @abraxastulammo9940 2 роки тому

      @@richardnedbalek1968 And Smart owners put the fuel pump nozzle to the turbo vent on the other side of the car flooding it...

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому +1

      I think you'll find that the caps don't unscrew, they'll be locked. This is what they did on their earlier EVs.

    • @richardnedbalek1968
      @richardnedbalek1968 2 роки тому

      @@paulaxford6754 We should hope!

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      @@richardnedbalek1968 however it seems that in addition to a lock, the cap also has a left hand thread. That may have been overkill IMO.

  • @ag135i
    @ag135i 2 роки тому +4

    Cory is bodybuilder.

  • @CorwynGC
    @CorwynGC 2 роки тому +2

    Did you remove any supports for those hoses? They strike me as a bit floating free in the air. What's your assessment of that?

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 2 роки тому

      Q: What's your assessment of that? A: better to "float" than eventually to "rub through" from vibration (even from the stabilizing clamp or zip-tie itself).

  • @mini2nut67
    @mini2nut67 2 роки тому

    The thermal management system is complex on BEV’s. It’s not a simple radiator and water pump solution to keep the electronics and batteries cool.

  • @gelu88
    @gelu88 2 роки тому +8

    The American RWD ioniq 5 uses the same exact tiny frunk, despite having much more space underneath. The European RWD frunk is substantially larger.
    The reason for this is regulatory. All American cars with inclosed storage above a certain size must have a internal release mechanism so a trapped person can get out.
    Hyundai did not want to add a extra mechanism to the hood, so they closed the space off and wasted it.

    • @heewoney2
      @heewoney2 2 роки тому

      Wow didn't know! Thanks for the heads up bro

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      Should have done what Ford did, a removable barrier.

  • @timdsd
    @timdsd 2 роки тому +5

    I love the way Cory and Jordan talk about engineering details in a way that an average person can understand. Regarding the frunk, in the U.S., the RWD and AWD version have the same small frunk. Speculation is that Hyundai didn't want to spend the money to include an under-the-hood child safety release which would have been required for a larger frunk. Can you comment whether that is a real requirement?

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 2 роки тому

      The under hood safety release is just a cord tied to the existing latch. Must cost a quarter.

    • @AudiTTQuattro2003
      @AudiTTQuattro2003 2 роки тому

      @@jamesengland7461 ...sure, but a quarter per 1m vehicles is $250k. At some point, even Tesla will have to compete on price.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 2 роки тому

      @@AudiTTQuattro2003 that's not a very balanced cost/ benefit analysis...

    • @abraxastulammo9940
      @abraxastulammo9940 2 роки тому

      @@AudiTTQuattro2003 I don't think they sell a million in USA.

    • @thanhngo5859
      @thanhngo5859 2 роки тому

      A lot of the HVAC system is in the engine bay which frees up passenger space by having a smaller console. That was a design/engineering decision. ua-cam.com/video/0zM3EdnqRZg/v-deo.html is a video of Hyundai engineers discussing the development of the E-GMP platform. I don't mind a small frunk if it gives more cabin space. "do you want cabinets or a bigger house?" was one of the questions the engineers asked.

  • @truenexus1usa
    @truenexus1usa 2 роки тому +5

    Sandy, Cory, and Jordan, I love your High-Fidelity Videos. Suggestion - Help prospective employees to see themselves at Munro by including a new hire at the end of a video instead of the old hey, we're hiring words. Let them talk about, possibly the product at hand (even another project not featured but nonetheless important) and maybe a little about their background.

    • @MunroLive
      @MunroLive  2 роки тому

      Good idea.

    • @truenexus1usa
      @truenexus1usa 2 роки тому

      @@MunroLive Your welcome. Since UA-cam is pushing their 'Shorts' format, you might just make the new hire video 'spots' a UA-cam Shorts? Also, produce them for TikTok?

  • @no_more_free_nicks
    @no_more_free_nicks 2 роки тому

    Interesting, I like this car, I looked at it in a dealership.

  • @kenhoward3512
    @kenhoward3512 2 роки тому +2

    What a remarkable difference between this super-clean and organized "engine" compartment vs the Ford Mach-E's nightmarish, rat's nest of components and tubing.

    • @BigEightiesNewWave
      @BigEightiesNewWave 2 роки тому

      This looks like a rat's nest and will be recalled like all the others.

  • @tedgrier6249
    @tedgrier6249 2 роки тому

    What about corrosion from salt on all those wires? How does Hyundai compare to Tesla for corrosion resistance? Paint durability?

  • @leftynivas
    @leftynivas 2 роки тому

    I have a question.
    Can you tell me how much difference there is between a Tesla Plad and a Model S Long Range beyond what us obiivous. For exampel components under the hood? Suspention, Cooling etc. You talk about how good the Plad is but what I want to know is how close is a S long range to the Plad? Thanks!

  • @serhiim534
    @serhiim534 Рік тому

    Thanks!
    Please tell me if the American and European versions of the Ioniq 5 have the same chargers? i want to replace CCS1 with CCS2.

  • @zero15388
    @zero15388 2 роки тому

    Great video but I'm dying to see some more PLAID teardown

  • @michaelwbsin
    @michaelwbsin 2 роки тому +4

    RWD models have a larger frunk in the EU, but not in the US due to regulatory reasons (no safety release from within the frunk). Keeping the frunk small (or divided in the case of Mach E or Polestar) ensures nobody can climb into it.

    • @bilgyno1
      @bilgyno1 2 роки тому

      Wow it is only 57 litres or so. Only babies small enough to put in there wouldn't be able to operate a switch anyway...
      But I'm quite happy with the larger frunk on my RWD Hyundai. Would still be eager to trade it in for the larger battery and 2 years free fast charging people in the US are getting...

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 2 роки тому +1

      @@bilgyno1 That's the point. A child old and large enough to open the hood and climb in won't fit, and if the space were larger that child would be capable of identifying and pulling a release.

  • @matthewwiemken7293
    @matthewwiemken7293 2 роки тому

    well done video:)

  • @ardenpeters2952
    @ardenpeters2952 2 роки тому +1

    I wish I had an engineering background! Would love to work at such an excellent place!

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      I have some of the background but don't want to move halfway across the world to a cold place!

  • @leaving_marks
    @leaving_marks Рік тому

    The RWD does have a deeper frunk in other markets, but not for the US.

  • @VoxelLoop
    @VoxelLoop 2 роки тому +5

    I'd die for a cabin filter that easy to change, on the Model 3 it's a nightmare, especially on the RHD model as the dead pedal is in the way.
    You have to take various trim pieces off from the side of the center console, move some HV heater wiring, then try to somehow get the filters out from their gap with the dead pedal blocking part of the gap. Horrible placement for it. :)

    • @SiuLeung
      @SiuLeung 2 роки тому +1

      Ya, would have loved the easy replacement on my Model 3 and I'm in a LHD version. I can't imagine the RHD version. Must be a complete nightmare. If Tesla designed it better with no moldy smell it wouldn't be such a big issue.

    • @FutureSystem738
      @FutureSystem738 2 роки тому +1

      Not a nightmare. I can think of TONS of jobs on my ICE car that are a genuine nightmare.
      A filter change in my RHD model 3 takes me around 10-15 minutes, (or Tesla mobile will come and do it in my garage for around AUD$100.)

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      To be honest, I'm way more surprised about the candid mentioning of this by M3 owners.

    • @aaronmcculloch8326
      @aaronmcculloch8326 2 роки тому +1

      @@paulaxford6754 Yeah it's not actually a cult, M3 owners are pretty upfront about the actual problems, like the wiper AI and the App linkage time and the latest UI!

  • @richardmcclelland6044
    @richardmcclelland6044 2 роки тому +1

    @Sandy Munro, your guys should get a laser pen so that when they are filming they can show what they are talking about with the laser dot rather than just pointing with their fingers.

  • @stigbengtsson7026
    @stigbengtsson7026 Рік тому

    What about the battery, is it safe today ? There was issues with LG battery ?

  • @jimanderson4444
    @jimanderson4444 2 роки тому +1

    I'd like to work for Munro, , when you open a shop in Phoenix. Jim

  • @davidws5439
    @davidws5439 2 роки тому

    Cory, you have WAY too much excitement ....😁

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 2 роки тому +2

    Is it known which cars Rimac had a hand in with drivetrain engineering and perhaps other systems?

  • @anilthapar5142
    @anilthapar5142 2 роки тому

    Nice video

  • @Xenon0000000000001
    @Xenon0000000000001 2 роки тому

    Are you going to take a look at, or discuss, the Vehicle-to-Load capabilities of the Ionic 5?

  • @immigrantlife1089
    @immigrantlife1089 2 роки тому

    Great video as always. Why still use lead acid battery for 12V? Any particular technicality to this? Tesla has moved to using Lithium Ion.

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      It won't be long. But what does a replacement lithium-ion cost the consumer and can you buy one anywhere in the world?

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 2 роки тому +1

      Cost of the battery, and cost of the extra electronics to manage a lithium-ion battery. Tesla could have used lithium-ion 12 batteries from the beginning but they didn't... for good reason. Does a Model 3 have a lithium-ion 12 volt battery? It certainly didn't at introduction, only a couple of years ago; it has a BCI Group 51R lead-acid battery. Even the Model S only moved from lead-acid to lithium-ion for the 12 volt battery last year.
      Despite the problems that a discharged lead-acid battery has with low temperatures, a charged lead-acid battery is much better than a lithium-ion battery without a heater. If something has to work to wake up a cold parked EV, a simple lead-acid battery is more reliable than a lithium-ion based energy storage system.

    • @immigrantlife1089
      @immigrantlife1089 2 роки тому

      @@brianb-p6586 Thanks a lot. This is very helpful!

  • @bernesto2468
    @bernesto2468 2 роки тому +2

    While it is posit that EVs should have lower maintenance cost and better long term reliability, the amount of hoses, clamps and pumps in the various cooling systems can be a concern. Good to see the changes Hyundai has made generation to generation. This also looks much improved over the MachE which had 35 thermal hoses and was covered in a previous video

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому +1

      True, but from an ICE perspective consider the far lower temps and pressures involved. The Ioniq 5 looks much the same as my Kona but with the replacement of conventional rubber hoses with plastic snap-on.

  • @ObviousNoob11
    @ObviousNoob11 2 роки тому +10

    Frunks always seem to be a big deal to people.. I never even use mine. Just throw stuff in the back seat or trunk. I'd rather see the space under the hood used for other things. I find it annoying when they cram everything in as small of a space as possible. I find being able to fix a part without taking half the car apart has value. Who knows what engineers could use all that rarely used frunk space for....

    • @XKS99
      @XKS99 2 роки тому +2

      I've started my frunk more for groceries lately, but even when I didn't it's still extra storage space for things like wiper fluid, charging cables etc.

    • @rmkep
      @rmkep 2 роки тому +1

      As a daily driver (commute car) I suppose the frunk does have limited utility. But when we travel, it becomes a very important storage location. Coming from a Range Rover, I can carry more cargo in the little Model Y. Absolutely a brilliant design and it's more comfortable/fun to drive.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 2 роки тому

      What other things? That's the deal-evs have fewer, smaller components, but the designers are lazy and don't arrange them logically to offer space to the owner.

    • @kalleguld
      @kalleguld 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, if I had to choose between more frunk space or more trunk space, I'd choose trunk space 100%.

    • @jamesengland7461
      @jamesengland7461 2 роки тому

      @@kalleguld you shouldn't have to choose. Those components have no place being moved to the trunk

  • @theslimeylimey
    @theslimeylimey 2 роки тому +2

    Although it may be good for the manufacturer, I'm not entirely convinced cramming as many sub systems into one single unit is necessarily a good thing for the consumer. Reason being the lack of resources to do component level repair means when one single component fails, it means throwing out whatever module it's in so the more modules that are tied together in a single unit means more things have to be replaced = more $$$ out of your pocket. At least with multiple separate modules making up a system, you don't have to throw out an entire system as one very expensive non-serviceable. If cars were built to last it would be fine but they usually aren't.
    For example, combining the ABS system with the master cylinder seems like a good idea until a soft foot pedal caused by a worn 25 cent seal in the master cylinder means that instead of just replacing a $150 master cylinder you are now also replacing a $1500 ABS system that is perfectly fine. The seals in my master cylinder are starting to bleed pressure and I am very very pleased it's a simple $150 part swap I can do myself in the driveway.

  • @ch4.hayabusa
    @ch4.hayabusa 2 роки тому +1

    Ngineerx has a good video of how Tesla has soft blowing fuses that can reset themselves.

    • @abraxastulammo9940
      @abraxastulammo9940 2 роки тому

      How do they reset, are they destroyed and it switches to another circuit of microfuses?

  • @nutzeeer
    @nutzeeer 2 роки тому

    good work by the camera man :)

    • @paulaxford6754
      @paulaxford6754 2 роки тому

      Except when Cory shows the frunk details and didn't wait for the cameraman to arrive before leaving. I've seen that in many videos, lacking story-boarding.

  • @axeman3d
    @axeman3d 2 роки тому +4

    I appreciate an underbonnet area that isn't crammed with kit so you can't get a credit card between components. I'm happy to lose a small front trunk if the car is much easier to service, particularly it that's pretty much all the servicing it will need.

  • @domg7359
    @domg7359 2 роки тому

    Parametric design point was well done, re-use of this engineering is critical to profitability.

  • @charleshaggard4341
    @charleshaggard4341 2 роки тому

    How cool it would be to work for a company that gave you new and different challenges.....

  • @martlet530
    @martlet530 2 роки тому

    Does repeated fast charging affect battery life?