Glenn Loury: "We're Playing With Fire" - BLM, Race & Policing
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It’s not right to stereotype blacks as criminals.
So let’s stereotype all cops as racist!
you should get on thomas sowell
@@rudipluchino4090 and Shelby Steele & David... etc etc.
Yeah tho it’s sowell who’s likely the brightest of them all and who was talking reason in the 70’s and he was seemingly alone among black folks
@@ransakreject5221 huh?
@@TheWhitehiker I said ALONE AMOUNG BLACKS FOLKS!!
Konstantin nailed it. Race and woke is cheaper than doing anything for working people.
I think the moralists of the Left consider working people in the advanced nations to have more than their fair share compared to the people in poorer nations and they don't see a need to help them.
@Morgan Allen certain people have discriminated against neuro diverse white women for years because they feel threatened by our intelligence
@Morgan Allen double whammy of Aspergers and Inattentive ADHD combined the first condition diagnosed at 23 the latter at 40 has had a huge influence on not reaching full potential because of inherent discrimination
You can't fight racism with racism. You can't bring about fairness by being unfair.
Nice comment. Reminds me of MLK.
Naive tautology. Fairness and unfairness are loaded terms. If half my paycheck is accidentally given to a co-worker, then the next pay round, the same amount can be transferred from her to me.
I see there is no shortage of Racoons in the U.S
They don’t want fairness. This is a power struggle and racism is just a smokescreen to manipulate the masses.
It’s really that simple.
Glenn Loury is a good man. I've listened to hours of his discussions with John McWhorter and I think that both gentlemen are speaking with honesty and truly have the welfare of black America (and American citizens in general) in mind. We need to try to get away from the trend of dividing modern societies up by race. I liked how he mentions that each group has their own cultural norms which they pass on to their kids, too. In a shrinking world where different cultures are being swallowed up it is important to hold some sense of your people's identity and history without making that your only lense through which you view the world.
Glenn and John Mcwhorter are hidden gems. I'm glad they're starting to get more attention.
Also Coleman Hughes
Glenn does not realize that his statistics are bull crap! McWhorter and Hughes are the same.
@@thomasreaves588 What statistics are you referring to? And what is the correct statistics?
@@thomasreaves588 no u
@@thomasreaves588 what statistics?
“So much of left wing thought is a kind of playing with fire, by people that don’t even know that fire is hot.”
~George Orwell
@Tom Witch I can.
We need to step away from this left right thought!
French Revolution has a lot to answer for.
He was talking about Champagne Socialists and the Rousseau Robespierre Intellectual Left.
I first read that line over forty years ago, but it is more relevant to our society now than it has ever been.
stripey7 Yeah he was a socialist, but then again, he didn’t have over a century of “not real socialism”, with it’s body counts into the tens of millions to justify. Misleading how? In that he didn’t believe in any of the social control, surveillance, censorship, linguistic manipulation, and outright totalitarianism that modern day socialists are getting institutionalized?
Get something straight. Fascism is rooted in socialism. They Italian fascists took Marx’s concept of the proletariat and created in Italy “the proletarian nation.” ALL of the original fascists came out of marxist intellectual circles.
I do agree with the commenter above who said that the left right dichotomy is not fit for purpose. All you have to do is look at China’s system and realize the end state of communism is indistinguishable from fascism.
Freedom is at one end of the spectrum and collectivist totalitarianism is at the other. Communism and Fascism are feuding neighbours.
Wow Glenn Loury... score guys!
Forget Equity between racial or cultural groups. This can’t even be achieved within family groups. Just look at your siblings if you have any, the differences are endless.
Hahaha
True I was just thinking of my immediate family members. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. To try and make it an equal playing field would be pretty much impossible. Good luck doing that with entire races of people
I said the same thing for years. Well meaning liberals look at racial groups rather than individuals. It's like if you had, say 3 houses on a block. A white family lives in one house. A black family in the next, and a Hispanic family in the last. A leftie will only see the race of the people living in the home and assume things about them as a group living in a house. They assume because they lived in the same house, they must share the same world viewpoints due to shared experiences.
It sounds logical but we know in reality that is not the case. Go INSIDE the home and go to the dinner table. Each INDIVIDUAL has wildly different viewpoints at the table. The father could be conservative, mother is liberal, son could be far left, and daughter could be neutral. That doesn't even account for how age affects views on some topics and how political leanings can shift from topic to topic.
All you are spewing ,Is empty rhetoric.
Trying to justify your bigotry. You guys are just spineless , soulless, defensive cowards. If you refuse to do anything or see the disparities, then give up reparations (which is owed in the trillions) . then see who gets where in life. Having a 300 year head start and pretending it never happened, doesn't make you smart or deserving, it makes you a bitch
@@battlecat3792 are you for real?
Glenn Loury's take on people weaponizing their race in order to pursue middle/upper class interests (around 38 mins) sounds spot on. By doing this the identity types can side-step the issues of clean water for Flint Michigan and Healthcare for poorer Americans, high-jacking of the economy by Wall St., and the near total abolition of citizens' privacy, and partisan censorship of politics by Big Tech. I felt immediately that the Big Tech Censorship of debate was a far more significant thing than whether Biden or Trump would win.
Finally. You need to interview John McWorther too. ASAP
Yes please do
100%
Better yet, just have them both (right after John's turn.)
It would be good if an interview with John was not focused on race though - he's a linguist and to give his thoughts on that would be fresh!
YAAAAAASSSSSS!!!
Yours is the only show I listen to the ads to. And get a great laugh out of them. You have first-class guests too. Great job, guys!
Professor Lowery, is loved in the US, and he tells it like it should be told. He is not afraid of controversy.
From "The Boy Crisis" by Dr. Warren Farrell, available on Amazon: "85% of men in American prisons had no dad at home. This is true for both black and white inmates." Comment: this is about fatherless, not race. Take dad out of the home and you get a social disaster. Guess what BLM is about? Taking dad out of the home, replacing him with welfare.
@Ldy Della Hi again! You're a smart lady. Might be interested in this opinion on Black Lives Matter, from a science based point of view:
Using an Evolutionary Lens, to understand what is happening to black men and crime:
In evolution the male role is the protector/provider in humans. There is a biological deal between the genders: He wants sex from the female, he wants companionship and children. On her half of the equation, she wants sex, she gets to pick who she has sex with, who she has children with, she wants resources and much of her choice in men, come's down to their utility, as resource providers.
That's the basic biological compact between men and women.
...then we gave women the vote
What women voting leads to, is women voting for resources, via the government, as a Surrogate Husband.
The Progressives and Democrats took to this, like ducks to water. Republicans do this too, just not as much. Both reduce the necessity for women, to have a man around. The Democrats make this central to their politics.
What that leads to is the replacement of mostly black men as providers of resources, for their women. Suddenly he is worth nothing to her. He is worthless.
That's what happened to black men. They were replaced by the government. I don't blame black women for supporting this. Like white women, they are wired to acquire resources from men. We need to understand this, to get our social policy right.
When we men let women vote, their feminine resource acquisition instinct kicks in, they are wired that way, they vote in resources. Then the black men were degraded, made valueless by their own women. This leads to community failure, family failure, sons failing.
What happened in the black community is not a as much a racial thing, as it is a gender thing, best understood in terms of female nature, male nature and evolution.
Then we can peel back the layers to see why it failed miserably: It went against evolutionary norms. It broke the basic biological compact between men and women.
Black Lives Matter is a feminist organization. Their principles are based on feminism. They say so overtly.
Background: In the '60s feminists changed the financial rules. Black women got more money, if the father of the children was not in the home. Then: Women had no reason to keep men around. Consequence: Female headed households went from 20% of black households in the 1960s, to 80% of black households.
Black children...or white children, especially boys, don't do well without dad around. Race is not the real issue. Dads are.
Dr. Warren Farrell wrote "The Boy Crisis", he has the stats in his book: 85% of men in prison, both black or white men, come from fatherless homes. Black Lives Matter is a feminist organization. It believes in kicking black men out of the home. The result is, black communities were slowly destroyed by white progressives and communists and mostly white feminists.
We never saw that coming because feminists are well intentioned. They are just WRONG.
Feminism is an offshoot of communism. It's communism, in high heels. Doesn't work. No wonder it turned out so bad for black Americans. Feminism is based on degrading men, taking away their power.
This destroys the evolutionary usefulness of black men, and their sense of responsibility. Black Lives Matter says as it's goal, it will destroy the nuclear family. No thanks. I can't support that.
The answer to all this is to empower black men.
Thanks for listening...cheers!
@Ldy Della The problem is complicated. Giving women the vote leads to consequences I laid out. We need to understand what those patterns and consequences are, in order for sensible policies to emerge. It should not be about blaming women, or blaming women voting. It should be about understanding that humans have innate tendencies that lead to consequences. The same can be said about patterns within male voting as well. There are lots of potential problems from males voting.
I think we are actually in agreement on this.
Your first paragraph is exactly right. Perfect.
Your second paragraph has the correct conclusion: the Legal System needs to change.
As to traditional roles, that's a long conversation. Some things from traditional roles can change, for sure. They'd be better off changing. Some aspects of traditional roles worked better, the older ways. There may even be racial and ethnicity variations in what works. My guess is much of what worked in a European based Christian culture, would maybe not work as well for people with roots in Africa. Hell, they don't even work for most white people anymore. There are lots of workable solutions, I'm pretty pragmatic and open minded. Lots of different patterns work. Others don't. You nailed it in your last sentence: Black men & women are failing their kids by raising them without influences by both sexes.
Exactly. What got left out for decades, was the role of black males. That's key.
@Ldy Della Well said: Fair enough. Cheers! :D
@@TimBitts649 wow - do you SERIOUSLY believe women shouldn’t vote????
No one is talking about the effect that the multigenerational decline of parenting and education has had on children over the past 70 years.
Fundamental. Look after our babies intensely for the first year. But that is too difficult to address en masse. Only individually.
That opens another can of worms such as feminism...which was exploited by the taxman to double the workforce...drive down wages...and put children in cages...um I mean day care.
As Candace says, the biggest problem and cause of African American inequality is sole parent ie fatherless ‘families’
Love Professor Loury!!!
Brilliant, courageous and so much common sense. He also breaks things down so they are easy to understand.
Nice job guys!!
And let us not forget, the responsibility of being a good citizen. We all need to carry that with ourselves daily.
Absolutely 🤗
Better learn the constitution and what are your rights when dealing with police.
Incredibly well organised mind, well spoken, and rational man. Loved listening to him talk calmly and sensibly about these issues. More people in the world like this please.
He's an economist, you missed asking him about the idea that government was exporting the working class to China for the laat 50 years.
Wow you got Glenn Loury - fantastic!
Great show, thanks. I've never heard the issues addressed so clearly and I hope Mr. Loury is recognized for working to help all of us, no matter what culture, race, financial situation, etc. Cheers!
Bloggingheads tv is his channel. It’s great
I love listening to intelligent people. We need more voices of reason. They are being drowned out by the extremists on both sides. Thanks for this interview.
Thanks Triggernometry, great interview! Very much appreciated. Far better than anything on MSM (a low bar of course). Glenn Loury - just fantastic. Wonderful how you can analyze and explain things. Thanks so much and keep up the good work.
Yes this was the best interview with Mr Loury !!
If you could get an interview with Thomas Sowell that would be amazing
YES YES YES YES
Absolutely 💯!
God I wish we could talk to Dr. Sowell from 20 years ago. He is sharp as a tack but you can see and hear his age weighing on him in interviews. Like he doesn't get to say everything he wants to because his body doesn't fully let him. Bless that man though he should be Sainted by the Catholics.
YES!!!!!
Totally agree, love dr. T. Sowell!
Crony capitalism a problem? Certainly. How about teachers' unions and the featherbed protections afforded public sector unions in general by politicians? Corporate interests take many forms.
Teacher's unions are the new mafia.
Absolutely correct. Private sector unions aren't a problem. It's when government employees get unionized like in California and they set their wages and pensions without negotiating with the employer which would be the taxpayers of the state of California. Their wages and pensions dwarfed the private sector and caused a seven billion dollar pension deficit. All of which we the tax payers had to pay back with increased taxes. No union should be allowed to negotiate a contract or benefits without the person paying for it allowed at the table. It's all about kickbacks and corruption.
@@jp-sx1rh - Using another man’s ideas - a man who shares your initials - maybe the issue is that all hierarchies tend toward corruption (corporations, governments,...and unions).
What a brilliant guy.
I really liked how Mr.Loury talked about how groups matter, and how some cultures/circles/groups encourage or nurture certain skills or qualities, I think it's very true and pertinent to the discussion around diversity hiring practices, or diversity for the sake of diversity?
...Not that it's a bad thing, but if people are not being hired, or are being hired based on race instead of merit, then that's not on.
-Very well worded points he made, and easy for normies like me to digest!
38:42 "The people who speak FOR the minority group are largely themselves not members of the class within the minority group who most desperately need attention.... They have...a middle- and upper-middle-class, professional interest. They racialize their...ethically offensive class interest--they're already privileged people; they now just want a better job, a higher income, and more attention to their concerns--they racialize that under cover of acting on behalf of the poor, when in fact the most effective way of acting on behalf of the poor would be to deemphasize race and emphasize their class differentiation."
Yes that was excellent
That was an incredible astute an point on way to describe what is know as front-porch talk as “Race-Pimping”
@@317dallas I've heard the term used to describe Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, whose primary means of personal advancement was through gratuitous racialization of immediate phenomena. Here, though, I think Glenn refers to millions of members of the professional/managerial class seeking personal advancement within institutions via POC-advocacy. These ambitious elites mask their self-serving motives from themselves and others by stating their demands in terms of advocacy for the oppressed, at the expense of the more numerous working class who are relatively much more disadvantaged than these elites.
Its mostly white people so the claim genders and sexs
Absolutely. I don't see too much social conciousness in the working people. We have to get along already in the workplace. True racism is from the old days from the most part. This is generally a conversation for the elite.
I could listen to Glenn speak all day. Brilliant man. I wish I heard him speak more on economic topics, but such is the times in which we find ourselves these days.
I definitely feel like we have gone backwards. We have gone from mlk’s dream of color blindness to the opposite.
The sheer clarity, balance and nimble energy of Prof Loury's analyses would elevate the quality of any podcast. Respect. Genuinely high quality podcast. Great work guys!
so unbelievably happy to see this brilliant man's voice amplified.
Best way to spend Valentine’s Day , my fiancé and watching Glenn loury ,,,
I admire and respect this man so much. Wish there were more like him. Thank you for bringing him on!!!
I LOVED this! You two are "one" of the best hosting I see. You don't spend time trying to insert smart remarks, or get your own face time...you seem to be, and I believe, truly are, listening and learning and thinking along of lines of thought being expressed. It is SO refreshing to see you let Glenn answer a question, and think too, and expand on thought, without jarring and often distracting interruptions. You guys are great! And Glenn is one of my favorite people. YES, have John McWhorter on sometime too! NOT WITH Glenn, of course... they can do THAT with each other; let him do, what you have let Glenn do here... give full answers and think and expand on his thought also. NOT a back and forth between him and Glenn. Many hosts create their own dullnesses by having TOO MANY GUESTS and nobody gets anywhere... including your listeners. Thank you guys for being so good.
Bravo. Thank you for giving a platform to more voices of reason
I though Kamala was Indian & Jamaican, not African American.
And European.
Correct
The laws in the South formerly defined anyone with any degree of black African ancestry as "black" (in the modern sense)-the "one drop rule" referring to a single black ancestors blood in one's veins-and that was carried over into our modern terminology when the term "African American" was invented to replace then then increasingly negative implication that was being given to "negro." The term African American kept the same implication as "negro" had. Kamala Harris, through her Jamaican heritage, identifies a part of her ancestry as of black African origin. The term "African American" traditionally would include her on that basis, despite her ancestors having been imported to Jamaica (and very likely enslaved there) rather than arising from one or more slave families who were forced to work in the United States.
You choose the identity that's most politically expedient if there's any ambiguity
Her Jamaican ancestors made money in that trafficking business. Doesn't that count?
This should be required viewing for every American.
Half of Americans refuse to hear anything but their own voices, and they silence anyone who disagrees.
Many of us (Americans) are already fans.
I am american. Most americans get alone. Racism doesn't stop anyone in usa from achieving their dreams. They just need to believe in themselves and work hard towards their goala
But what about white privlidge?
Don't idolize ANYONE.
Excellent choice of guest guys,I listen to the Glen Loury at work everyday and I live and work in Royal Deeside Scotland and Scottish lol,love his fairness and common sense,and yes you guys are great too and good to see you both on GB news now and again,keep up the excellent work 👍😁😁
Can the US just elect this guy for president?
I'd vote for Loury in a heartbeat.
@Sasja B the USA has his choice for president now. We will see how that works out, hopefully not as badly as some of us fear. But Biden and crew are doing a frontal attack on the constitution and second amendment, without which we cannot secure the rest of our wights.
Yes please.
Not sure if that’s his calling. DeSantis 2024 all the way. We need someone with balls of steel because you know there’s gonna be about 50 false allegations heading anyone’s way who isn’t part of the Woke.
Another wonderful conversation.
Glen is absolutely one of the best people to speak to the reality of the black community in US and stands up to all the crap he gets for being honest. I am a 73 yo white woman and listen to him any time I can.
Truth is rare these days. Glen always speaks ‘his truth.’ (altho I suppose its not what Oprah had in mind.)
Love you guys - you courageously taken in what our MSM does not have the balls to tackle.
From this Yank, THANK YOU and keep it up., please.
The reason I respect Glenn Loury is because he (and a handful of others) is honest about issues touching race.. People who set up a problem--and then a list of aspects that will not be discussed and things that cannot be said--do not really want to solve it or make things better. I assume they have other objectives.
This was a good speaker, somewhat informed on the issues of opposing voices and willing to address them directly, and not devolving into the whining, self-pity, and anecdotal tangents I've seen from other guests lately,
The accusation of racism has become way too powerful and we all know that merely the accusation is enough to end somebody. We need more high profile legal cases brought against those that wield this accusation. It's time to make people think twice about crying racism as a way to destroy their opponents
that is SO very true. I truly do not understand why more people have not brought leglal cases about racism. It would certainly be what I would do if I was unfairly accused of racism or any other wokish "crime".
@@stablefairy9437 If you can find it watch the clip of Yasmin Alhibi Brown accusing Lawrence Fox of being racist. She instantly retracts her statement when he says he'll sue her for libel. I wish he'd gone through with it and dragged her through the courts
@@knockedoutloaded yes I have seen that, fabulous reaction from Lawrence and he was totally correct!
@@stablefairy9437 I don't like the idea of people being litigious for the sake of it but it really is time to start letting these race baiters know that they cant just play that card without there being consequences for them
@Paul Simon McCarthy Agreed. The hope is that through litigation the burden of proof would be layed squarely at the feet of the accuser. We have to get to a point where these race baiters understand that if they want to play that card then they should expect there to be legal consequences
Imagine how different these stories would be if you just politely cooperated. My parents sat both my brother and I down at a young age and told us how to safely interact with police. I have these conversations with my children as well. This is not an African American “only” problem or concern. This is a human problem.
Glenn Loury dropping jewels as usual. 💖💖💖
I would love to be a fly on the wall for the political arguments between the professor and his wife 😂
Every time he says his name. I think he's saying "I'm constantly kissing" 😂
Lol
🤣
But he's Glenn Loury!
No, that’s not right, it’s consenting kitten,
I have been following Glenn Loury for a long time now mostly via Bloggingheads and it so exciting to see him finally talking to a British run YT channel. He is a hero.
WHOA!!! A black Secretary of Defense?!! What a milestone! Maybe we should tell Colin Powell about it.
Colin Powell was Secretary of State.
What was condeliza Rice?
@@bigdbob7929 Chief of Staff? I think.
This is probably the most impressive and balanced discussion on race that I've ever listened to.
Thanks for having Glenn Loury on. I’d love to hang out with him and his wife, and John McWhorter. That would be a fun and interesting time for sure.
Can i join you please?
Great interview. Glenn’s explanation for not resorting to reparations for historical wrongs shows a considerable understanding of society and how it works. Best I’ve heard.
Excellent talk guys.. Thanks again. Especially the end, effing brilliant!
Perhaps the best session of Glenn I've listened to yet. My politics diverge from his(I'm probably closer to his wife's politics), but like Glenn, I recoil from the woke pandemic, dentitarianism, and the race reductionism that is generating so much hysteria. His analysis of the elite Black's peddling racialism while ignoring and erasing class was spot on. Great show! Glenn was at his brilliant best.
“Don’t try to cut a separate deal with America.” THANK YOU. This hits the issue on the mark
I almost skipped cuz I've listened to Glenn beat this topic to death but you guys did a great job of guiding the conversation into a direction that is easy for everyone to understand and relate to.
If you haven't watched Glenn Loury and James Lindsay talk on BloggingHeads Podcast, make that what you watch next. I was so happy when they agreed to talk, and then again at the end when Glenn said something along the lines of "I'm going to get so much flak for having you on, but I want to have you on again, if you'll let me." Glenn may not have a 'strategy' for all this, but this raising of awareness and cross pollination of great minds (and the work you, reader, do in listening and speaking your mind and sharing videos like this)... maybe it's not a 'strategy' but it DOES have an incredible benefit. Keep fighting the good fight, friends.
That was amazing! And, I think I commented there, as much.
Great comment -- that was really well put! Couldn't agree more.
Why would he get flak for having Lindsey on? I’m not familiar with Lindsey
@@billsimms2511 Lindsey has lately been on the outs w/ many progressives, some have called him out on his Twitter posts including his co-author, Helen Pluckrose. Also, he voted for DJT, and John Mcwhorter is very sour on DJT.
@@billsimms2511 Lindsey is amazing, &!I think he gave GL a lot to think abt.
Since Loury once called my writing “brilliant” and was “blown away” by my site and signed up, I’d like to think that would earn me some credibility. Not with this crowd. Nothing registers the nanosecond you sense any dissent from the company line.
“The Civil Rights Movement is over” - in 1984! That - took guts! And that - is the Loury I was looking for. Maybe when you’re done talking race, woke, and CRT for the ten-thousandth time - we can consider approaching problems in a more multi-dimensional manner? Just a thought!
The commentary these communities speaks volumes about social media & the state of society: Habitually slinging self-congratulations and high praise for purveyors of virtue: Virtues that vanish the second you're called to put them to the test. Following facts that go in the direction you desire - doesn’t count. Anybody can do that!
The smorgasbord of sub-cultures has created another dimension of delusion in America: Hardening minds not broadening them. If you think one party is to blame for this Charlie Foxtrot of a country we’ve become: You’re not part of the solution - you’re part of the problem. Unschooled in Adjustment: onevoicebecametwo.life/2022/05/17/unschooled-in-adjustment/
Other interesting people to interview are Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden, Michael Malice
I dont like michael malice
They are all great thinkers.
@@cluckycluck3053
Why? What don’t you like about him?
There are enough interviews of those. I say more like this guest, interesting and courageous voices who don't get as much exposure.
Glenn Loury is great. Thoughtful, sensible, passionate, informed. What is needed!
I've been waiting for this for a long time.
Without a doubt, if our society is to heal, it will be brilliant courageous people like Glen who help blaze the trail towards a more reasonable and truly moral conversation.
Black History Month is reductive and racist, here is why.
I liked the original sentiment behind black history month but tbh, at this point it should just he merged with history. I don't get why it has to be separate, black people are not all one conformative hive mind so the idea of black history is a little stupid and racist imo.
There are many different and often opposing cultures, religions and other groups within the 'black race' (if one must say that, to me they are just people) just like there are with white people. All with their own unique histories.
Black people literally share the same skin colour and that's about it. We don't have white history. We have national history and before that regional history, I suppose one could call it.
I haven't really got a major issue with black history month, people can have it if they must, but it is kind of reductive and racist. Also, after the shit BLM has put a lot of people through, it is unsurprising many people have started to not really like the whole thing and have become critical of it. Black history month has become infused with toxic identity politics, inter-sectionalism and Marxism... oh and black supremacy, which I hate as much as white supremacy.
Yes I agree, what exactly is black history month, would the genocide in Rwanda be part of it?
Agree.
I never actually thought of it that way.
I believe the only purpose is to push hate for non blacks and their history.
we have black history month for the same reason the Christians have lent --- our calendar is demarcated by our religious beliefs and the ritual of acting them out
it's creepy that white cosmopolitan progressives are so obsessed with one minority skin color, but what are you going to do 🤷
change the dominant religion and you'll change black history month, otherwise it's going to be defended zealously by its adherents
My only push back is I believe the vast majority of issues arise with cops because of people’s non compliance during encounters.
Breaking down the barriers between intimacy amongst individual persons... That is a great statement. And it doesn't need to be marriage and families... it can be just friendships too. Very important.
LOVE Glenn Loury!!!
Congratulations on getting Glenn on the show. One of your finest guests to-date. Something I don't fully understand and which rarely gets discussed: in the areas where blacks are allegedly being mistreated by the police, many of the police themselves are Black or other non-whites. Do white police officers have more complaints lodged against them than black officers? Does that answer not matter if people are going to call the police racist?
re; Racializing everything - some black chick in London recently said that 'gardening' was a 'white supremacist' activity - that's how stupid the dialogue has gotten. It comes to the point where one just doesn't listen to black accusations & complaints anymore. They need to 'get a life'.
A guy named Eric July says it best and I’ve just adopted it when it comes to fake accusations (The Smollets, AOCs, Tyrann Mattheus and the likes), labeling things that have nothing to do with race by race and making them good or bad based on that and people like white people apologizing for the color of their skin for things they did not do... “They’re @#$&ing losers.” They just plain are.
World ain't racist. If you got lot of money your basically welcome anywhere. It's classist. Substitute the word black for poor and often you'll be getting closer to the truth of an issue.
If this gent is a Christian he should know you can offer all things to all people on a golden platter, but if the heart of an individual is not transformed it helps only in a surface way and doesn’t effect long term change.
Not a Christian, but I think your underlying sentiment makes sense. It's the difference between someone who gets liposuction to lose weight and someone who works out and diets; there's a critical difference in the attitude, the sincerity, and so on, I think, in which the former (liposuction) _maintains_ your original self and offers no real, or at least not _as_ real, dedication to change, whereas the latter molds yourself into the kind of person who is fit and will likely stay fit, both physically and mentally. I truly think poverty is related at the root level, where sometimes poverty becomes a mental attitude rather than a real environmental or economic limitation (i.e., the economics of your situation aren't limiting you from getting out of poverty), while still of course acknowledging those factors as well.
I believe he WAS a Christian at one time. Then, a very humble sweet woman passed away (from illness?) a couple of decades ago (?), and her mother (?) made a pacifying comment on her passing that set him wrong and he abandoned his faith. I hoped it explained it correctly; that’s how “I” remember it.
Christianity was omnipresent in the era of slavery. The post is a sales pitch
Please invite Nadra Enzi from New Orleans. He is an everyday superhero helping and protecting.
I love this guy
Western countries are going to continue to circle the drain until scholars like Glenn Loury get involved in politics in a more direct manner. Talking isn’t enough anymore.
Glenn Loury... the man ALWAYS amazes... thanks for the interview guys!
Glenn is amazing
This was so spot on! Dr. Loury, thank you for giving a balanced view.
Great stuff, guys. 3 of my favourite YT people!
Great interview. One hour seems to only scratch the surface Glenn Loury's wisdom.
Hah, I love it... I'm in an inner racial marriage and my wife is tired as being classified as being "brown," she is a human being, of course... just like my children.
Tell Meghan
love Glenn, such a well reasoned dude!
You should get Trevor Phillips!
Listened to Glen many times, but you covered some great points!!! One for the archive!
Tony tempa , knee on neck 13 minutes, ,crickets
And? Who's neck? Details?
@@toby9999 Use the internet
And they were laughing at him and slapping the back of his head. That was one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen.
@@toby9999 Tony Tempa died in very similar circumstances to George Floyd a couple of years back, but there was no comparative outcry, no global protest, no corporations issuing statements, no calls to defund the police.
Tony was white.
@@toby9999 It's Tony Tinpa in Dallas. If you look it up on UA-cam, you can easily find the video.
Glenn used the word “antiestablishmentarianism” 👏
A fantastic interview. Even your adverts are good. I will have to re-watch as Prof Glen had a lot of wisdom to impart. Thanks fellas.
I found myself thinking while listening to this video that today's racial/racist discussion is tiresome, but what I realized while thinking through why I thought it tiresome was that, it was actually the fallacious, illogical hyperbolic rhetoric used by advocates of Social Justice that bores me. Discussions tend to be scripted as Social Justice advocates usually start off with the same ill conceived arguments.
At last ..got chance to watch this interview. I love Glenn Loury and his friend John mcwhorter. Engrossing and fascinating stuff as usual. You smashed it again lads.
I wholeheartedly agree about his thoughts on reparations. It would allow people to wash their hands of the ongoing issues who would sadly like to anyways.
Tho it seems like Glenn had a larger share of talk time than most guests this felt like shortest podcast ive ever listened to. Hope yall can bring him back asap im already going thru withdrawals!
very balanced views from Loury. Refreshing
Yes but even he doesn’t really have an answer for what’s currently going on. He wants what I want which is to stop identifying everything by race but that is not happening and in fact will only get worse with today’s leaders
Professor Loury is totally awesome! Cheers!
I would encourage any Triggernometry fans who may not have been familiar with Glenn to subscribe to the Blogging Heads UA-cam channel and watch the Glenn Show, I watch it every week, it's one of my favorites. They only have like 45k subs, it should be 10 times that, it's terrific discussions week in and out
Well done Konstantly Kissing and Francis Fluster. Another great show, keep up the good work for as long as UA-cam lets you!!
Eric Garner wasn’t choked to death. I’m not just making this up. I’ve done Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for a while now and I’ve also arrested some larger people when I was a cop. You can’t choke someone the way that officer was holding Garner. He was just holding on to a much larger man, who was resisting a lawful (stupid and unnecessary but lawful) arrest. The cop was trying to control him the best he could. Grabbing his wrists would have made ZERO sense, underhooking him or trying to clinch some other way would’ve ended with Garner on top of him and that is not somewhere you wanna be. He might have been able to do a single or double leg but he could’ve ended up under Garner that way too. I wish people who don’t train and don’t know what it’s like to try and arrest someone (much different than knocking them out) would think a little harder before they judge the cops.
I’m a huge fan of Glen Loury though.
He died because the position he was in can br fatal to larger people, i would find it hard to breathe in that position myself.
@@simonwilton3546 I agree. That is something police departments need to figure out. I don’t know what the solution is but it’s happened a few times and someone needs to come up with a better way.
@@Individual_Lives_Matter That is of course ignoring one solution , which is to co operate with Police no matter how unjust you feel you the encounter is and above do not resist. Sort any issues out when you are out of danger.
Absolutely agree with Glenn Loury.
I think I'm in love (politically!)
If you’re referring to GL. Go to his channel. A veritable trove!
Glenn Loury is a living legend, no question. Love his discussions with regular discussion partner John McWhorter; both of them provide really great insight. My only criticism, which is really more of a worry from a concerned apostle, is their thought that maybe they can win the battle against woke-ness with reasonable debate. It can definitely won by debate, and the woke hypothesis can be absolutely demolished by people as intelligent as them. Which is why the woke-sters will never debate them in good faith.
The woke-sters do not concern themselves with meritorious arguments, or logic, or reason, for one simple reason. *They already know their arguments have no merit, or logic, or reason, whatsoever, and they are perfectly aware that the ENTIRE THING is predicated on blackmailing and pressuring stupid/ weak people.* So they will not accept the many invitations put forward by Mr. Loury and Mr. McWhorter, as well as other intellectuals like Shelby Steele, David Webb et al. Instead, the wokesters will continue to attempt to discredit them by screaming wAyCiSt as loudly as possible, at every opportunity.
*It's ALL THEY HAVE, and to expect them to engage in good faith is a mistake.* They will come for every reasonable person until there are none left. And the left/ Democrat establishment will side with them.
They are infantile, bestial and they come in packs. They have no respect for people as accomplished as Prof. Loury, and no recognition of anything other than the only possible reason why anyone might not take them at their own estimation is wAyciSm. They will stop at nothing to eliminate (either metaphorically or literally) those people who clearly put on display, using logic and reason, the blatant lie of the woke garbage.
I only hope Prof. Loury takes this into account and prepares better. If he wishes he could destroy the entire premise of the woke-sters. But he needs to stop assuming good faith where there is none. And take his allies where he finds them.
the problem is the rejection of the individual and accepting collectivism, communism needs to be destroyed.
This Man is one of the few academics and public thinkers employing truth.
Imagine putting this on as a lecture in every school in the UK, putting the other side of the debate in this kind or rational fact based manner and then letting students reach their own conclusions. I'm not saying kids should agree I simply saying kids should be given the information from both sides to make an informed decision.
This man is very logical and truthful. Great guest
Looking forward to Mr Loury 👍