God they were so humble and grounded. The interviewer kept trying to hold them up to rich, arrogant, rock stars and failed miserably. What a great, talented, harmonious group of guys. It’s really too bad they only made one more record after this.
Very true. Just got done watching a series of interviews with Lady Gaga. Proportional to her talent and especially relative to the talent of any one of these guys in Genesis, her remarks, attitude and demeanor were laughably unduly arrogant and totally uncalled for. After the 1980's, American pop culture started turning talentless nobodies and artistic underachievers into megastars. And our entire culture/politics/social fabric now is suffering for it.
You are right! I was the producer of the video of those concerts (first ones ever in High Def btw) and I had the same jacket as Tony (it's Matinique) and when he walked in on the first day, he must have thought I'd nicked his from his wardrobe!
Tony and Mike are still marry to the same women they met in there 20's. They are honorable men. They dont trash hotels, orgies, etc. Fantastic music, the best ever.
What a great interview. I had already been a huge fan in 1987, and found this to be a pretty fresh interview. I always knew they didn't do it just for the money, but it's nice to hear them admit it. Classy group of guys. I hope we'll at least get some kind of one-off studio recording from them at the very least...if they feel inclined.
@@Yakkymania Mine aren't because they must admit it. None of them really despise Genesis (how could they?), for most of them they're not 'top 3' and some others don't even come to 'top 5', but at least they feel the band deserves its share of fans. I haven't yet met a man who's really bored by Tony, I've read some Genesis fans who strangely have started blaming him for Gabriel's and Hackett's departure, but I'd say .
At the pinnacle of their craft. These guys are composers who happens to play instruments very, very well. "pouring money into a bucket" says Phil, but "we never argue about money, never had"
Not as bad as not even being mentioned as a former member of the group, when the interviewer referred to the early Genesis era becoming a 3-some, "...and that's the story of Genesis, Peter Gabriel now doing his own thing" but no mention of Steve Hackett at all. Not such a good interviewer, focusing so much on the $$$ that Genesis is making rather than the music.
Meh, you just have to keep watching othe stuff on them. There's plenty of footage of him laughing and getting along with the boys. But sure, he's probably the most serious of the 3
I'm sorry but has anyone ever had the courage to honestly remove the naustolgic influence,and put the Beatles in the 70s and 80s,with all the group's, and than ask yourself how good we're they really,and is it surprising that a band that was the only ones around at the time,is the one influence for others,I'm not saying they weren't good, for the options, available at time
I’m not sure what you mean when you say “only ones around at the time”. The Beatles had hundreds of contemporaries, yet they produced a sound that had never been heard before and continued to do so throughout their brief career.
I can understand that the Beatles were inspiring young people in the 1960’s. But for me it sounds strange because The Beatles made such a boring music compare to the Genesis compositions (Peter Gabriel or Phil Collins era).
I think I've read Peter having said that Stax and Motown were more influential on him. I think he was playing drums in the late 60s, pre-Genesis. It's somewhat hard to detect in his music, but things like "Sledgehammer" and "Steam" do have a little of that feeling. He also used to cover "Ain't That Peculiar" (Marvin Gaye) in concert. As for the band itself, on some bootlegs from early 70s sessions, they cover the Kinks. I think maybe some Stones and Beatles too, but it's been years since I listened to those. Also, at Knebworth in '90, Tony, Phil, and Mike did a "Turn it On Again" medley which included a bunch of old 60s soul songs, plus "Pinball Wizard" and "Satisfaction." They were obviously big fans of the major rock & soul groups that preceded them. Phil called Pete Townshend after Keith Moon died to volunteer to drum for the Who, and this was at the time when Genesis were really on the rise commercially. Phil also played Keith's "Uncle Ernie" role in some of the Who's 1989 Tommy performances, and famously sat in with Led Zeppelin at Live Aid in Philly.
@@peterklutinoty244 Pop and rock music did evolve rapidly in the Sixties. From the Beatles first LP to the first Genesis LP was a difference of only 6 years. Meanwhile, Glenn Miller died before any of the members of Genesis were even born. His music was entirely frozen in time.
It was 1987. Genesis were at the peak of their career. They were in the show as a pop band, not at prog rock band. Of course the questions were going to be trivial.
Scott Burns “a liberal lefty”? Good grief. What a ridiculous cliched comment. It was the 80s. Thatcher was in government, it was completely the opposite of what you’ve said. It was an era of “I’m going to make loads of money” and screw everyone else. His comments were fuelled by the 80s obsession with adoring anyone with money. And look where that’s got us.
@@sirpatrickspensSeriously? So, they started out with nothing, travelled 1000s of miles to play for peanuts, while working their tails off, and eventually it pays off, you believe that they didn't deserve the money they made? What, take it away from them? Yeah that's liberalism. Jealous people who don't want to work for anything, but feel they're entitled to everything. They went after their dreams and they made it. You don't punish people for that
Scott Burns I’ll say it again ... “good grief”. You snowflakes just interpret comments in the way you want to read them. No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that it was the 80s and Mike Smith was pampering to his audience who at that time were obsessed with money. The UK had come out of the economically depressed 70s and was at the height of Thatcher’s “loadsamoney” era. I’m giving you an answer to your initial question.
@@sirpatrickspens Curious interview. I think I remember watching it. I was a huge fan back then, although as with now, it was the Gabriel era material which drew me most. I agree with your analysis of its context. This was a U.K. daily chat show that went out on the BBC at around 7pm. Millions would have watched it. Thatcher was at the peak of her popularity having stormed the election of that year with a huge majority in parliament. Her brand of populist monetarist economics sought to roll back the state and create a nation of home-owning, share-holding quasi-entrepreneurs. Popular culture was all about acquisition, conspicuous wealth/glamour and how you defined yourself according to your bank balance. It’s quite astonishing how much that narrative had worked it’s way down to the list of questions posed on a prime time chat show. It looks quite awkward now but they seemed happy to bat it all away. Thanks for the memory!
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God they were so humble and grounded. The interviewer kept trying to hold them up to rich, arrogant, rock stars and failed miserably. What a great, talented, harmonious group of guys. It’s really too bad they only made one more record after this.
Give it a rest
Very true. Just got done watching a series of interviews with Lady Gaga. Proportional to her talent and especially relative to the talent of any one of these guys in Genesis, her remarks, attitude and demeanor were laughably unduly arrogant and totally uncalled for. After the 1980's, American pop culture started turning talentless nobodies and artistic underachievers into megastars. And our entire culture/politics/social fabric now is suffering for it.
Glad I got to live during all of Genesis!!! I love them and play their music daily!!!
These 3 have a special bond for some time. Kinda old jazz in that the guitarist/ bassist,drummer,and keyboard player are the core of it all.
Mike and Tony wearing the exact jackets as the Wembley video!
That probably makes this July 6, then.
Right? They wore them enough!! 😂😩
They were low key. These were their fancy clothes 😂
You are right! I was the producer of the video of those concerts (first ones ever in High Def btw) and I had the same jacket as Tony (it's Matinique) and when he walked in on the first day, he must have thought I'd nicked his from his wardrobe!
Good eye!
These were great days
🥀Amazing interview and I've got albums of their song's and I respect Phil Collins for who he is and he's the reason I use to play drums.🥀✌☝️
Tony and Mike are still marry to the same women they met in there 20's. They are honorable men. They dont trash hotels, orgies, etc.
Fantastic music, the best ever.
Thanks to Genesis for the dreamy atmospheres they bring us with their music.
What is shocking is Tony smiling in the thumbnail.
I was thinking this too lol
2:59 ... And anyway, they're not the bloody Osmonds :D
@@IThinkYouLookLarvely haha! True enough.
Thanks for posting!!!!!
What a great interview. I had already been a huge fan in 1987, and found this to be a pretty fresh interview. I always knew they didn't do it just for the money, but it's nice to hear them admit it. Classy group of guys. I hope we'll at least get some kind of one-off studio recording from them at the very least...if they feel inclined.
Tony's such a good-looking bloke he should've known about that and had loads of groupies... but he's Tony and we like him the way he is.
I agree, Tony’s so pretty (and i mean it, men can be pretty too!!) and talented, and my friends and family are tired of hearing me talk about him
@@Yakkymania Mine aren't because they must admit it. None of them really despise Genesis (how could they?), for most of them they're not 'top 3' and some others don't even come to 'top 5', but at least they feel the band deserves its share of fans.
I haven't yet met a man who's really bored by Tony, I've read some Genesis fans who strangely have started blaming him for Gabriel's and Hackett's departure, but I'd say .
Phil was SO good in Miami Vice, very funny but a serious actor also. Buster is a really good film and Phil a really good actor. Worth checking out.
I like this Phil's longer 80's hair. It's better than the mullet he had for most of the 80's.
At the pinnacle of their craft. These guys are composers who happens to play instruments very, very well. "pouring money into a bucket" says Phil, but "we never argue about money, never had"
Phil looks a little perturbed when the interviewer mentions Charterhouse. A reminder that he's the new guy; he'd played with the guys since 1970!
I dont think he's that bothered really, given his solo career.
Not as bad as not even being mentioned as a former member of the group, when the interviewer referred to the early Genesis era becoming a 3-some, "...and that's the story of Genesis, Peter Gabriel now doing his own thing" but no mention of Steve Hackett at all.
Not such a good interviewer, focusing so much on the $$$ that Genesis is making rather than the music.
@@filmneye Nobody ever mentions Steve, if i wasn’t a big Genesis fan i wouldn’t know who he was
Didn't realise Tony was capable of smiling lol
Meh, you just have to keep watching othe stuff on them. There's plenty of footage of him laughing and getting along with the boys. But sure, he's probably the most serious of the 3
He smiles plenty! He's just focused when he's playing on stage
clever questions; all designed to elicit the right response; all the world's a stage...
Tony looks bored and slightly embarrassed to be there. I'm not surprised.
That's how Tony looks when he's happy! His usual look is a downturned mouth and glum expression.
Tony just has a real bad case of RBF
Tony looks bored and slightly embarrassed to be anywhere. :P
Tony’s always like that
Yet another video where no-one mentioned Steve Hackett, sad
Phil saved his money for his ex wives
He said he's very careful how he spends his money; he should've been just as careful in his love-life.
What a slimy interview.
That was Mike Smith all over IMO, may he be resting in peace.
What a terrible interview.
I'm sorry but has anyone ever had the courage to honestly remove the naustolgic influence,and put the Beatles in the 70s and 80s,with all the group's, and than ask yourself how good we're they really,and is it surprising that a band that was the only ones around at the time,is the one influence for others,I'm not saying they weren't good, for the options, available at time
I’m not sure what you mean when you say “only ones around at the time”. The Beatles had hundreds of contemporaries, yet they produced a sound that had never been heard before and continued to do so throughout their brief career.
I can understand that the Beatles were inspiring young people in the 1960’s. But for me it sounds strange because The Beatles made such a boring music compare to the Genesis compositions (Peter Gabriel or Phil Collins era).
I think I've read Peter having said that Stax and Motown were more influential on him. I think he was playing drums in the late 60s, pre-Genesis. It's somewhat hard to detect in his music, but things like "Sledgehammer" and "Steam" do have a little of that feeling. He also used to cover "Ain't That Peculiar" (Marvin Gaye) in concert. As for the band itself, on some bootlegs from early 70s sessions, they cover the Kinks. I think maybe some Stones and Beatles too, but it's been years since I listened to those. Also, at Knebworth in '90, Tony, Phil, and Mike did a "Turn it On Again" medley which included a bunch of old 60s soul songs, plus "Pinball Wizard" and "Satisfaction." They were obviously big fans of the major rock & soul groups that preceded them. Phil called Pete Townshend after Keith Moon died to volunteer to drum for the Who, and this was at the time when Genesis were really on the rise commercially. Phil also played Keith's "Uncle Ernie" role in some of the Who's 1989 Tommy performances, and famously sat in with Led Zeppelin at Live Aid in Philly.
Times change! Compare Glenn Miller with Genesis. Hellooo??!!
@@peterklutinoty244 Pop and rock music did evolve rapidly in the Sixties. From the Beatles first LP to the first Genesis LP was a difference of only 6 years. Meanwhile, Glenn Miller died before any of the members of Genesis were even born. His music was entirely frozen in time.
@@AngusRockford Interesting comment. Thanks !
Sgt Peppers is boring ? The Beatles changed music. Twice at least
The interviewer was horrible. How about a discussion about music?
It was 1987. Genesis were at the peak of their career. They were in the show as a pop band, not at prog rock band. Of course the questions were going to be trivial.
Wow this guy was obsessed with the financial side of things. What is he a liberal lefty and wanted them to apologize for their success?
Scott Burns “a liberal lefty”? Good grief. What a ridiculous cliched comment. It was the 80s. Thatcher was in government, it was completely the opposite of what you’ve said. It was an era of “I’m going to make loads of money” and screw everyone else. His comments were fuelled by the 80s obsession with adoring anyone with money. And look where that’s got us.
@@sirpatrickspensSeriously? So, they started out with nothing, travelled 1000s of miles to play for peanuts, while working their tails off, and eventually it pays off, you believe that they didn't deserve the money they made? What, take it away from them? Yeah that's liberalism. Jealous people who don't want to work for anything, but feel they're entitled to everything. They went after their dreams and they made it. You don't punish people for that
Scott Burns I’ll say it again ... “good grief”. You snowflakes just interpret comments in the way you want to read them. No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that it was the 80s and Mike Smith was pampering to his audience who at that time were obsessed with money. The UK had come out of the economically depressed 70s and was at the height of Thatcher’s “loadsamoney” era. I’m giving you an answer to your initial question.
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@@sirpatrickspens Curious interview. I think I remember watching it. I was a huge fan back then, although as with now, it was the Gabriel era material which drew me most. I agree with your analysis of its context. This was a U.K. daily chat show that went out on the BBC at around 7pm. Millions would have watched it. Thatcher was at the peak of her popularity having stormed the election of that year with a huge majority in parliament. Her brand of populist monetarist economics sought to roll back the state and create a nation of home-owning, share-holding quasi-entrepreneurs. Popular culture was all about acquisition, conspicuous wealth/glamour and how you defined yourself according to your bank balance. It’s quite astonishing how much that narrative had worked it’s way down to the list of questions posed on a prime time chat show. It looks quite awkward now but they seemed happy to bat it all away. Thanks for the memory!