Neil was really fantastic in those early 80s ! The French repertoire would really suit his voice as nobody esle's. A shame he did'nt record it with Plasson. Love you Neil Shicoff !
The most perfect singing of this aria that I've ever heard and the richness of the voice, the beautiful phrases, the colour of the voice - mind blowing. I love his Werther too.
I listened to many and when asked who is my favorite I couldn't choose. Then I heard Shicoff in aria from La Juive and I had my favorite singer... what a voice, what expression.......
@@BytomGirl Thank you, I love Neil's singing big time, he was under appreciated in the mix of that marketing campaign of 3 tenors which is totally over the board, and laughable by real opera goers!
@@xxsaruman82xx87 He started as Cantor singer coached by his father, it is available online too. Yes he took classes of Great Corelli at NYC!!! Ton of Squillo, great DNA. Always graceful. Neil's performing is not less if stronger than his teacher. Absolutely captivating to watch...
Very interesting. I remember reading in Opera News magazine that he was taking lessons with the legendary tenor. Anybody know how long he studied with il gran maestro Franco Corelli?
Me again !an absolute fan.! What easiness. Elegance gesture. All comes from the inner being like a river Thanks thanks. I had my favourites among soprani but the right guy was missing.among tenors. I wasnt.
100% yes. I like you words, it is a flow of long river, with shining gold and silver sparks at the sunset hours...I always want to go back to his voice
@@pryan5183 All great DNA. but 3 tenors is a horrible term by now. best to figure something else asap. After Neil, there is another american tenor, I love his singing, Jerry Hadley!
@@xxsaruman82xx87 Gedda's young voice is great. I love his timbre. Neil got so much issues with his family and divorce... such a huge drag into his career. He was notorious on canceling performing... lost confidence from all major houses. He was pretty famous and popular at Europe than at States at that time. There is a great tenor who was even more underrated: Chris Merritt. He was sub for Neil. Can you believe that! Chris is such a grand presence by himself... would be #1 on today's stage to wipe Kaufy away 20 miles far. So sad for us today.
Actually as far as squillo, when I first saw him in house in 1979 with Sam Ramey and Soprano Mitchell in Boheme in Chicago, I heard tons of ringing squillo up top, that's mostly not heard on his recordings, live or studio. That is typical of recordings, you really needed to be in house for the best idea of a voice. His career lasted a long time and he made lots of complete operatic recordings, and always there was that high quality with his singing.
Barone, the 1979 Neil Shicoff Chicago debut in Boheme (with Sam Ramey as Colline and soprano Mitchell I had taped on " reel to reel" as the first performance was Brdcst. The rest of the shows I attended as Neil was so great and I hadn't seen him in house till then I had "Edmund St. Austell" post it for me on his you tube site , you can hear most of the "Che GELIDA" aria, from 1979 as I had him Post it long ago under "Neil Shicoff Che Gelida Manina, Chicago debut 1979 " The top B was ringing like mad with lots of Squillo every night out, you can almost hear some of it on my old tape, but in the house it was far greater for a ringing squillo up top at that time in his career , he was 30 years old then in 1979 . He is now retired of course, at age 73 tomorrow, June 2nd. 2022.
He also did a very good run of Faust complete, in Chicago in 1987 and Sam Ramey was in that run with him. Yes and also he sang a strong run in Tosca, in 2005 with Aprile Millo and Ramey as Scarpia , I did see both, the 1987 and 2005 in the Chicago house.
When I first saw him in house back in Chicago in 1979 he sang with so much ringing squillo up top it was like a bell, but not picked up on recordings, he then sang this role there in 1987 with Ramey.
@@道-p2e Correct, in house live at this time in his career he had some of the most amazing ringing squillo I've ever heard in house from anyone now in my 65 years of attending opera, that that you do not get on records, not live or studio, you needed to be there!
@@shicoff1398 And thinking of 1979 of Neil's voice... Wow! Must be so marvelous with youthful handsome sparks. Voice is the greatest music instrument, but it is not perfect or last forever... 10 plus years of constant singing... it will never be the same sound. ㊗㊗㊗
E venuto in Francia MOLTE volte . Sono forse 30 anni che lo conosco e sono attonato che in Italia Patria della lirica non lo conoscette perche era di famma internazionale.POSSO DIRE PER AVER CANTATA QUEST'aria MOLTE volte che la canta nel'uso che conviene. SALUTI .
Neil Shicoff is on par with some of the very best interpreters of this role, for instance Nicolai Gedda or Franco Corelli. Actually he finds a good balance between the two, that is, his voice is more masculine than Gedda's and more slender than Corelli's. I find him ideally suited for the French repertoire and wish Colin Davis would have cast him instead of Francisco Araiza for his 1986 recording of "Faust".
The High C is really on par with Corelli yet on a slender way. Not masked singing as compared to Kraus. Bravo for this fantastic singer. I should look more into his recordings here in yt. he could be added on my list of great tenors: Corelli, MDM, GDS, Tucker, Hadley, Bonisolli, Rosvagne
Shicoff1-An entire Hoffmann featuring Neil, Dessay and Ramey from La Scala -1997 was posted on You Tube -9-1-16 by my3BKa - under a Russian head. Fantastic - in every way!! Check it out! Barbara
You know his voice very well and worked with him many times. Does he sound in the aria here slightly darker then usual, I'm not saying necessarily heavier, but compared to when Isaw him sing it in Chicago in 1987 in several shows, and also listened to the Met. Brdcst. with him singing it a year or two later it was slightly different. How is the tape recorded speed here, Is it accurate ?Thanks in advance.
Me again !an absolute fan.! What easiness. Elegance gesture. All comes from the inner being like a river Thanks thanks. I had my favourites among soprani but the right guy was missing.among tenors. I wasnt.
Probablement un des derniers authentiques grands ténors de la fin du 20ème siècle .
! Maravillosa interpretación.!!
very great singer
Neil was really fantastic in those early 80s ! The French repertoire would really suit his voice as nobody esle's. A shame he did'nt record it with Plasson. Love you Neil Shicoff !
Some kind of tonal perfection! Already a freedom in his phrasing (with no show-off excess) that are a joy to hear, esp. that perfect climactic C !
Mon ténor préféré 🌹😍🌹
The most perfect singing of this aria that I've ever heard and the richness of the voice, the beautiful phrases, the colour of the voice - mind blowing. I love his Werther too.
Bravo!
wow , what a voice 👍 So consistently vibrate, bright and youthful, such a fresh air🈵🈵🈵
I listened to many and when asked who is my favorite I couldn't choose. Then I heard Shicoff in aria from La Juive and I had my favorite singer... what a voice, what expression.......
wow, great taste and choice,
Student of Corelli, but a great tenor in his own right.
@@道-p2e Thank you!
@@BytomGirl Thank you, I love Neil's singing big time, he was under appreciated in the mix of that marketing campaign of 3 tenors which is totally over the board, and laughable by real opera goers!
@@xxsaruman82xx87 He started as Cantor singer coached by his father, it is available online too. Yes he took classes of Great Corelli at NYC!!! Ton of Squillo, great DNA. Always graceful.
Neil's performing is not less if stronger than his teacher. Absolutely captivating to watch...
This so great. This recording is from the time period he was studying with Franco Corelli.
Very interesting. I remember reading in Opera News magazine that he was taking lessons with the legendary tenor. Anybody know how long he studied with il gran maestro Franco Corelli?
@@Artiej0hn0 I knew Neil during those years at the MET, but didn't know how many years he studied with Corelli.
@@robertmanno5749 Have you read the Rene Seghers biography of Corelli? I recommend it. I imagine any opera fan would enjoy it.
Quite superb. I heard him around this time as Macduff at Covent Garden with his broken arm!! Thanks so much.
Best American tenor ever
Totally agree
Agreed, but let's not forget Richard Tucker.
James McCracken John McCormack Jess Thomas Richard Tucker James king Jerry Hadley
È un piacere ascoltarlo!!!!! Tra i grandi di sempre...
The best I have ever heard! BRAVO!!!!
Well done Mr Shicoff
Why was this unissued? It is perfection!
Eleazar inigualable
Absolutely fabulous.
A treasure .Thank You.😊
Beautifully sung and with such poignant longing by Neil Shicoff. Grateful for this rare 1982 posting. Thank you Shicoff Fan! Barbara.
Me again !an absolute fan.! What easiness. Elegance gesture. All comes from the inner being like a river Thanks thanks. I had my favourites among soprani but the right guy was missing.among tenors. I wasnt.
100% yes. I like you words, it is a flow of long river, with shining gold and silver sparks at the sunset hours...I always want to go back to his voice
I have three favorite tenors- Corelli, Shicoff, and singing today- Fabiano. Shicoff belongs among the greats!
@@pryan5183 All great DNA. but 3 tenors is a horrible term by now. best to figure something else asap.
After Neil, there is another american tenor, I love his singing, Jerry Hadley!
Великолепно !!!
This is his prime time, with ringing Squillo, reminds me of N. Gedda and Giuseppe Di Stefano, Bravo👍👍👍
Shicoff is better than Gedda. He has so much squillo!
@@xxsaruman82xx87 Gedda's young voice is great. I love his timbre. Neil got so much issues with his family and divorce... such a huge drag into his career. He was notorious on canceling performing... lost confidence from all major houses. He was pretty famous and popular at Europe than at States at that time.
There is a great tenor who was even more underrated: Chris Merritt. He was sub for Neil. Can you believe that! Chris is such a grand presence by himself... would be #1 on today's stage to wipe Kaufy away 20 miles far. So sad for us today.
Amazing! Very good rendition!! Superbe!!!
Amazing voice! Why haven’t I heard about him before? Has to considered amongst the greatest tenors!
Many of us are lucky enough to have followed him from the beginning of his career in the 70s. Superb tenor. Extraordinary in everything he sung.
You have good ears. His voice is prime tenor!
@@pryan5183 yes, saw him first in 1979, Boheme in Chicago and even then he had it all , plus amazing squillo, passionate and excellent artistry .
Nice warm tone he is pretty damn good
love you Neil Shicoff
Gracias Mr Shicoff, el mejor tenor que escuche en Viena
A very fine rendition indeed
His best recording.
Actually as far as squillo, when I first saw him in house in 1979 with Sam Ramey and Soprano Mitchell in Boheme in Chicago, I heard tons of ringing squillo up top, that's mostly not heard on his recordings, live or studio. That is typical of recordings, you really needed to be in house for the best idea of a voice. His career lasted a long time and he made lots of complete operatic recordings, and always there was that high quality with his singing.
Barone, the 1979 Neil Shicoff Chicago debut in Boheme (with Sam Ramey as Colline and soprano Mitchell I had taped on " reel to reel" as the first performance was Brdcst. The rest of the shows I attended as Neil was so great and I hadn't seen him in house till then I had "Edmund St. Austell" post it for me on his you tube site , you can hear most of the "Che GELIDA" aria, from 1979 as I had him Post it long ago under "Neil Shicoff Che Gelida Manina, Chicago debut 1979 " The top B was ringing like mad with lots of Squillo every night out, you can almost hear some of it on my old tape, but in the house it was far greater for a ringing squillo up top at that time in his career , he was 30 years old then in 1979 . He is now retired of course, at age 73 tomorrow, June 2nd. 2022.
He also did a very good run of Faust complete, in Chicago in 1987 and Sam Ramey was in that run with him. Yes and also he sang a strong run in Tosca, in 2005 with Aprile Millo and Ramey as Scarpia , I did see both, the 1987 and 2005 in the Chicago house.
For me the best rendition ever!!!
The rest are standing on his shoulders
Bravo
I didnt know hum!!! Fantastic
Absolutely fantastic singing!!!!!!!
When I first saw him in house back in Chicago in 1979 he sang with so much ringing squillo up top it was like a bell, but not picked up on recordings, he then sang this role there in 1987 with Ramey.
@@shicoff1398 There are some squillo, but of course, nothing even close to Live.
@@道-p2e Correct, in house live at this time in his career he had some of the most amazing ringing squillo I've ever heard in house from anyone now in my 65 years of attending opera, that that you do not get on records, not live or studio, you needed to be there!
@@shicoff1398 And thinking of 1979 of Neil's voice... Wow! Must be so marvelous with youthful handsome sparks. Voice is the greatest music instrument, but it is not perfect or last forever... 10 plus years of constant singing... it will never be the same sound. ㊗㊗㊗
L'ho scoperto adesso grazie a you tube. E' un piacere ascoltarlo!
E venuto in Francia MOLTE volte . Sono forse 30 anni che lo conosco e sono attonato che in Italia Patria della lirica non lo conoscette perche era di famma internazionale.POSSO DIRE PER AVER CANTATA QUEST'aria MOLTE volte che la canta nel'uso che conviene. SALUTI .
Superbe masque belle collone d air vraiment un grand ténor
Neil Shicoff is on par with some of the very best interpreters of this role, for instance Nicolai Gedda or Franco Corelli. Actually he finds a good balance between the two, that is, his voice is more masculine than Gedda's and more slender than Corelli's. I find him ideally suited for the French repertoire and wish Colin Davis would have cast him instead of Francisco Araiza for his 1986 recording of "Faust".
that is a great comparison, Neil's voice so round and so shining, I do not know the techniques, it is so attractive, and fits this aria so so well!
I like Araiza, but for Faust I think you are right - Shicoff suits the role more.
@@xxsaruman82xx87 For this opera and aria, cannot deny the great or maybe the greatest French Tenor, Georges Thill. Gorgeous voice with good balance.
The High C is really on par with Corelli yet on a slender way. Not masked singing as compared to Kraus. Bravo for this fantastic singer. I should look more into his recordings here in yt. he could be added on my list of great tenors:
Corelli, MDM, GDS, Tucker, Hadley, Bonisolli, Rosvagne
@@potusumanbibingka He was a student of Corelli! That's why his voice had so much squillo!
Shicoff1-An entire Hoffmann featuring Neil, Dessay and Ramey from La Scala -1997 was posted on You Tube -9-1-16 by my3BKa - under a Russian head. Fantastic - in every way!! Check it out! Barbara
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ESPLENDIDO
Fabulous, on par with the wonderful Björling, with a more beautiful tone, imo.
A slender version of the great Franco Corelli.
It's really too bad Neil Shicoff never recorded an album of French arias.
Yes.
This WAS part of an album of French arias that remained unfinished. There is some Werther and Manon finished@@shicoff1398
Sounds like a better Carreras
Terrific. What a pity Plasson was such a saboteur with the tempo
Stephen Lord telling it like it is!
You know his voice very well and worked with him many times. Does he sound in the aria here slightly darker then usual, I'm not saying necessarily heavier, but compared to when Isaw him sing it in Chicago in 1987 in several shows, and also listened to the Met. Brdcst. with him singing it a year or two later it was slightly different. How is the tape recorded speed here, Is it accurate ?Thanks in advance.
Explain please. I think the tempo is fine.
Me again !an absolute fan.! What easiness. Elegance gesture. All comes from the inner being like a river Thanks thanks. I had my favourites among soprani but the right guy was missing.among tenors. I wasnt.