ULTIMATE Miniature Paint Showdown: Testing Every New Paint! (Part 1)
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
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Today, I will test and review every new miniature paint that has been released in the past year, including Huge Miniatures, Duncan Rhodes Academy Two Thin Coats, Army Painter Fanatic, Cuttle Fish Colors Opaque Set, and Big Child Creatives and Ammos Paints Atom Smart Paints.
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Lyla Mev The Mini Witch creates beginner miniature painting tutorials and easy-to-understand guides for Warhammer, dungeons & dragons, and more. My favorite things to paint are sisters of battle, display quality miniatures, and focusing on having fun.
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Thank you for taking the time to cover some of our brush on acrylic paints on your channel. I'm sorry to hear that you didn’t enjoy working with them, but some people with different techniques may have a better experience. We’re making minor tweaks to the formulations with every batch, and the newer ones are coming out smoother and more refined. Making great model paint is a labor of love and not something so easily mastered on the first go-around. Given enough time, I’m confident that we will iron out the kinks and have a full range that can hang with the best of them!
I like this. This speaks volumes about how you do business. Comments below also echo Lyla's thoughts about your basing products so I'm definitely going to try them out the next time I need to order some.
TBH, I’ve never used a huge mini product, but I’m going to the website right now to try it out because of this comment. A+ PR person, A+.
Also, good video. I watch them all, and look forward to the painting content.
For what it matters, I am putting them on my list. The fluorescent and regular seem like great glaze options.
Thank you for sending me a care package! As I was doing the basing for these models using your products, I was inspired to do a dedicated video for speed basing! So that will be coming out in the near future.
I’ve tried a lot of bright paints and for me personally Huge Minis makes the best fluorescents, smooth, not chalky and very vibrant. I even asked my lgs to stock their products, they sell like crazy there. The basing material is fantastic, various sized/shaped tufts are a major plus. I appreciate the fact that this is a company that makes everything by hand and is incredibly receptive to community feedback. Customer service is great and shipping in the US is lightning fast.
Thank you for the shoutout, Lyla! I love a moody, gloomy vampire as much as the next gal but getting to see her painted up in such bright, gorgeous colors just made my whole day. I've also got some new paints to try out, thank you as always for your honesty when trying out products!
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to paint her!
I will say, as somebody who bought their basing products for years, Huge Minis has great customer service if that counts for anything.
I met them at adepticon and they were so nice! I felt so bad that I didn't like the paints.
@@LylaMev I was watching another youtuber reviewing the fluorescent paints and this youtuber had great things to say about it.
@@tecjohnson I'm glad someone enjoys them! In my opinion, there are far better ones available.
Yeah, I'll stick to Vallejo, thank you. Aside from the fact that they are excellent, the price for a 17ml bottle is 1.9$ here. Citadel starts at 3.48 for a 12 ml bottle. It's a no brainer. Other brands are not even worth getting into, at least for me, although I do have a set of Speed paints 1.0 and the chameleon paints from Green Stuff.
Thank you for taking the time to do this for new people.
The two thin coats availability is improving: Right now they are available in a few big online stores, the kind with a few local locations in the US. I live near one of them, and the entire set was available: I just don't need that much paint. But they are so much better than a certain other, highly reviewed paint line whose idea of pure red is actually pink
Does this include wave 2? I can't find the wave 2 colors anywhere online in the US unless I want to pay shipping costs from the UK
I keep meaning to try out huge mini's basing products since i've seen them a couple places now
100% on the Two Thin Coats line of paint. I like using them and they work really well, but they are hard to find and most of the bottles that I have seen are closers to the $5-6 range than the $4 range per bottle.
I use alot of the grass tufts, flocking and other basing materials from Huge Miniatures
I like that availability is part of the rubric. Every time I here the "What paint should I start with?" my first response is always "The one you can acquire easiest". Before you have a style, technique, or preference you're best paint is the one you can easily grab when you want a new colour to play with.
This is why despite coming in pots I'm just waist deep in citadel. They're not the only paints I own but because they're just the easiest to find (I can walk into pretty much any games shop and that's what they'll have on the shelf) they end up being my go to. Not to mention so many painting guides use them. I think I'd like to transition away but it's hard to justify replacing a lot of paints I haven't really used that much.
I love the Huge Minis tufts and am putting them on all my bases so far. I also like the paints but they aren't always consistent. I've found the ones I like and use them constantly.
Love huge minis basing products.
yes!
@@LylaMev Part 2 is Pro Acryl & Warcolous, right? Lol
@@LylaMevHave you tried Huge Minis color shift paint ?
ATOM paints are hobby-life changing paints, they perform how miniature paint should perform...that self leveling tech actually works, the finish is a dream come true, no streaks ever! Just perfection, in fact they also glaze and shade so well I got rid of my washes and contrast paints.
4 drops of water to 1 drop of ATOM paints and you get a heavy glaze that is easy to work with.
If you are just getting into painting, then go with ATOM, I wish I had them when I was struggling with all the effing BS of figuring out how to thin Citadel paints. You don't thin ATOM, just paint out of the bottle, similar to Pro Acryl (which is the 2nd best brand for n00bs like myself).
Love these kind of videos, thank you as always for the insight Lyla 👍
I just backed the 180 bottle range of wave 1, 2, and 3 of "Two Thin Coats". Their pledge manager for wave 3 just closed on May 17th I believe. Very excited to get these.
I like them so much that I ordered a 2nd set of wave 1 and 2 when I backed wave 3. Although my love of the paints does not extend to the bottles. I think the bottles kind of suck.
@@WickedChickenz Yeah I heard you have to really pay attention when closing the caps.
Thank you this helps a lot!!! Bring on Part two!!!!
I love my Two Thin Coats paints. I have a complete set and waiting for release 3. Sometimes the bottles are hard to “squeeze”. Once I got used to the triad (S/M/H) plus Wash, Metallic, and Glaze and Brights, the system got much easier for me. The colors are not “popping” like you said, but they fit my color palette. So I have had for 2 years and only now needing to refill bottles. I do I use these paints along with other paints. AP, Citadel, etc.
I'm lucky my LGS is one of the stores that carry Two Thin Coats. Absolutely my favorite paint outside of Pro-Acryl. I just abandoned the triad system and mix and match as I need.
I love the Two Thin Coats range. I have the paint racks from the kickstarter so they are always stored in their triads. Like you, I found some of the triads are very similar between the 3 shades.
Yay new video! I have never seen those atom paints before, I will order them right now!
Huge miniatures does have good flocks, and basing material.
Yes!
I got the chance to pick up the Atom Smartpaints (and meet you) at Adepticon! I have been spending a while painting a cat bard mini from Kawna Miniatures exclusively with this set, and I absolutely love these paints. I'm not a competition painter, I've only been in the hobby a few years, but they are awesome for the vibrancy you get. I've barely scratched the surface of the capacity, but I'm already wanting more paints in the range if they continue to be this good.
Those Atom Paints, though. Talk about Lyla's fastest convince.
She needs a discount code for these. Ninjon had a review on the rest of Atom paints that was also very positive
I enjoy these honest reviews, Lyla. Even when it's clear the makers of a given set are nice, and you wish them the best of luck, your review is still very objective. Keep it this way!
Tried different brands, but will be sticking with AK for their color range, quality, and vibrancy.
I'm so glad that there are a lot more good paint ranges available these days compared to even just a couple of years ago, but sadly a lot of brands everyone uses and loves are pretty hard to get where I live so the actual accessibility of a lot of them is a major factor still and I'm really happy you covered that! The two thin coats paints are actually easier to get in my country at the moment than proacryl or ak are, but generally anything outside citadel and vallejo aren't even an option unless i can fork out multiple times the cost of the few paints i'm ordering just for shipping, and I still have to wait a month for them to arrive.
There are so many awesome paints I want to try that i'm likely to never get a chance to, and so I'm grateful that there are so many reviews out there covering the strengths and weaknesses of all the exciting new ranges so i know which ones are the better options when i do save up and commit to buying a couple of things from another range.
Just remember, whenever you take a trip somewhere else, THAT is an opportunity to find those other paints. I am not suggesting to go somewhere just to buy them. But if you're going there anyway...
@@Arturius_Rex_8 true! Sadly I'm not currently in a position to travel anywhere that has better access to stuff like paints, but I'm sure other people will have better luck!
Glad to catch this review. It was news to me that the Atom Smartpaints are a different variety from the regular Atom line. I've tried two metallics ( a green and a red)from the regular Atom line and found that they worked quite nicely, so I'm glad you clarified that.
Would I be correct that part two of this video will discuss the Army Painter Warpaints Fanatic and Vallejo Xpress color lines?
I bought some of the Atom paints at Adoption after talking with you - I really like them for the most part too - great colors and easy to work with. Not a fan of the white at all, and the black is fine for mixing but is much more of a dark muddy grey IMO. I usually only use my Scale75 Artist Colors (which are still my fav) and these give me something else to play with (they are also super easy to airbrush with).
I like your chapter names for each section. Well played
I wanted some mystery!
My understanding from my lgs is the two thin coats wave 2 ran into a problem with a vendor for their shelves. Trans atlantic won't shop the paints without the shelf set for their racks.
Two thin coats has *just* finished their kickstarter for wave 3, and there are a ton of super nice colours in there (so many purples!)
I managed to pick up all 3 sets from that, and they end up coming out at ~18p/bottle which is ~23 cents. That's including shipping, vat, etc. Really excited to try them considering your review!
I would be more interested on the Miniature with the flaming Skull than the Miniature-Paints until now. (At least here in Europe it is easier to get your Hands on the Two Thin Coats Line. They are in nearly every Online Shop Available, that I frequently use.)
Love these videos. You present the products very well.
Love your analysis.
thanks fore the video
This one gives me something to look into
Mig Ammo Atom range was released early this year to replace their exisitng acrylics.
Apparently airbrush really well.
Importer here in Australia is still waiting on a shipment.
Great rating system! Always looking for new paints to try out.
Thank you!
I guess I finally need to buy some Two Thin Coats paints
Interesting to hear your thoughts on rhe various paints and 2TC in particular. Looking forward to part 2 for some paints I know better
Love the shootout style.
I have been using Two -Thin Coats quite a bit and I really like them. I have a couple of game stores near me, so I am seeing this brand a lot more in stores.
Those Atom paints do sound interesting, I have a pretty full range of colors, but a little extra pop of color from time to time couldn't hurt
For the Two Thin Coats triads, just look at the numbers. They are numbered sequentially so it’s pretty easy to figure out what triad they belong to. Although I agree that something more obvious would be nice.
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2TC does note whether it’s shadow midtone or highlight with a S,M, or H in a shield icon on the bottle. It’s also in the paint charts on the website and In-Store.
I think she meant which paints are in which triad. Does Kobold Cloak go with Fury Green etc. The set is numbered though, and triads are next to each other. So number one, berserker red is the shadow colour, number two is its mid tone, and number three the highlight.
Yes! Thats what I mean.
It may be a region thing but the Two Thin Coats range is easy to get in 13:27 the Uk. Having seen the humbrol paint bottles I have a suspicion about who makes Duncan paint for him
I would love to see a follow-up with non-new ranges. I think this is the first time you've used this sort of metric to rate overall ranges?
Love the atom paints they are excellent
Nice project. TTCombat also released paints last year, which seem to be high quality.
Yep, availability is crucial here. I know many Americans swear by Pro Acryl but they don't understand that PA's almost impossible to get in large parts of Europe. And even if they are, their price is extremely high and they're not THAT good to justify purchasing them for double price of AK Interactive. If you don't exist on the shelf, you're worthless. Fortunately my LGS is a retailer for Two Thin Coats so I have full access to everything from wave 1 and 2.
Yeah I hear you, but I also realize here getting Vallejo is a real challenge as well as Scale75, Kimera, AK etc….
Lyla, have you noticed any reactivation, lifting or cracking with the new AP fanatic paints?
I've finally had the chance to test and I'm occasionally getting paint lifting off or cracking when putting AP washes over models that have dried overnight.
Never had this problem with AP before?
I've noticed a slower drying time which if your not careful does lift easily but I've had it twice happen on models that have dried for 24hrs.
The two thin coats range is one of my favorite. But I experienced the same thing as you when it came to availability.
I can find most of the wave 1 paints in individual bottles, but the wave 2 range, which has been out for a while across the pond, it is still not available in the US for some reason.
If you do a Google search on a release date for wave 2 in the US there is a vague release date of Q2 2024, and apparently it looks like they’re probably going to miss their second announcement of when these will be available in the US… I can’t help but wonder what is causing the delay?
Maybe it’s related to their Kickstarter for wave 3. I personally wish they would’ve at least figured out whatever production issues they are having distributing wave 2 to the US.
I took a look at the wave 2 range and there is a significant edition of more vibrant colors, more metallics because wave 1 only contains six, and he introduces a range of glazes and I believe he finally released some medium, which is nonexistent in the first wave of Two Thin Coates.
I want to put them up in the top three of the paints I use but with limited access to just Wave 1 in the US, I find myself passing, unless there’s a triad that I really need such as the green, and the off-white Triad is pretty good.
I’ve also been pretty impressed with their white named White Star.
It’s very close to bold titanium white from Pro-Acryl but it leans more towards a Satin finish which is what I prefer prefer considering how much I love Pro Acryl, their paints can sometimes be too Matte for my liking…
The Atom look like a perfect affordable extension to the Golden SoFlat starter sets. I wouldn't have tried them out of my own, so thanks for the testing video. I might give them a try as they are easily available here while the Golden are not.
How do you see the next wave in adding to the Two Things Coats range?
In my area three are three or four stores carrying the Duncan Rhodes paints. I suspect they will get easier and easier to get as we go forward
I discovered that a place not too far from me sells the two thin coats! Next time I'll go there for a tournament I'll for sure buy something to try!
I'm fortunate that a local store carries Two Thin Coats, I grabbed a bottle to give it a try and was really impressed. I still haven't tried to airbrush with it so I don't know its manners for that. I will add that the convenience of being able to grab a couple of colors locally does make it a lot more appealing than something I have to order online.
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I love my Two Thin Coats paints. Never had an issue finding them to buy, but I'm in the UK, so I guess that helps. 😅
You guys get a lot of the good stuff at a discount compared to what I am paying with the dollar.
Just like finding AK and Vallejo is trivial in Spain, while in America, you might end up in a store that sells tanks and RC kits if you want to see part of their ranges, as way too many stores only carry citadel and army painter: An especially bad situation when one has really iffy pots, and the other which, until very recently, made notoriously bad paint.
Is there any difference between the Ammo Atom Smart paints vs the standard Atom paints?
I will be bringing home a set of the Atom Smart Paints when I visit home next week but am wondering if I should order a couple of the standard Atom sets.
Wow that DR chaos lord is amazing! In which box set is it available? Can it be purchased separately?
Availability issues must be regional I guess, TTC paints are very easy to get a hold of here in the UK. I suppose they're still expanding globally.
"One thick coat" oh no April fools flash backs to when I actually took that video serious for far longer then any human should do (it was the sleep deprivation I swear).
Finally some good content, this week has been so slow.
I hope you'll do a quick comparison in part 2 to AK 3rd gen, AP Fanatic and Pro Acryl. I suppose you've rated those before but can tell us their score again. Please? :)
I find that weird that 2 thin coats are hard for you to get all the mini stores around me have them besides GW of course
I have TTC wave 1&2 and waiting on wave 3. They are pretty much the only paints I use aside from a couple contrast paints for things like glowing eyes on minis and a couple other minor things. The paints do have an indicator of the triad to which they belong through the numbering system on the bottles, but I admit it’s not obvious. I love the paints and got rid of my GW paints for them. However, availability (particularly of the wave 2 paints) and particularly in Canada where I live, is pretty limited. I hope availability improves going forward though. I’ve tried to convince a Couple hobby stores to carry them.
Additionally I would argue that no paint manufacturer really has a lot of different colours. They all offer main colours with variant shades. Even GW who has 15 types of blue, are really just 5 blues with variant shades on either side, plus that includes contrast, air, and dry colours. So really, not that large a pallet when I look at the paint rack of my FLGS. Same as TTC and everyone else. It just seems like there’s more colours because there isn’t a specific colour system like triads being used. Add to that washes, glazes, and brights, and effect paints, and I’d say TTC offers good bang for the buck. With wave 3 we get 60 more colours and two new varnishes. I do hope they produce even a limited line of contrast like paints though. That would really round out the set.
I see paint comparison, I click
Asmodee just signed an exclusive distribution deal so 2TC should improve in distribution. Looking forward to warpaints fanatic comparison cause im swapping out my old AP paints for a new line and curious how they compare
does anyone know from where a Canadian can directly order 2 thin coats paints? I want to give them a try but the distributor they use for retailers has a poor track record for getting things to my FLGS in a timely manner :(
Hoping Lethal Shadow's paints will get reviewed in the next video. I tried them out at a convention, prior to launch, and while I have my own thoughts, would love to hear what others think of this line.
I have never heard of this! I'll go look them up!
I don’t ever see anyone talk about reaper paints but apparently they’re nice
I do like them! I especially like them for beginners who want to work on the skill of glazing. They can be layered up for pure opacity, but they are very easy to thin. However, I will admit that I just threw out the majority of my reaper paints in preference for two thin coats!
Will you talk about new Vallejo model color and new game color in part 2??
I hope Lyla’s ready for the flood of comments from the Army Painter stans in the next video if she gives the fanatic range anything less than 21/20.
oh boy.
Personally i think 5/5 on the atom paints is a bit generous since you cant buy them individually. That little price cut comes with the fact of having to buy all 12
hmmmm. I had not considered that. Thanks for pointing that out!
Just wait for the new mindwork games paints!!!!
Lyla, do you still use Reaper paints? How would you rank them?
I do still use reaper! I like reaper as a good beginner paint, as it isn't super opaque and therefore can be layered up for an opaque color, or easily thinned to a glaze. However, if someone wants to paint armies or something just to get it on the table, then I like two thin coats as it's smooth and very opaque in one go.
i appreciate that you list that all of these paints were sent to you. though i would have liked to see a review of paints you bought instead of just ragging on stuff you got for free. and. dude. what is that cardboard thing in the background?
Ragging on stuff you got for free? It's called constructive criticism.
The Atom paints look great. Too bad there are so few of them.
Are the Atom Smartpaints single pigment?
The Atom Paints with Big Child should've went with a completely different branding to avoid confusion.
I didn't know there was a big formula difference until I started doing in depth research!
What’s the difference? The ATOM line is also about 6 months old. The old Ammo acrylics are pretty old though.
Yeah I'm still lost. Like Ammo makes it? Big Child chose the colors?
@@catlkthief The upcoming Kickstarter may provide more clarity to it. But yeah, I was very confused when I was at Adepicon at the Spray Gunner both. Like... what's the difference here?
I do dig the bottle design . Privateer Press and other companies that use that flip cap need to change to this type of bottle. Much easier on the opening and closing.
The two thin coats bottles and caps are trash. the bottles are tough to squeeze. it's either half a drop because it clogged, or full on tidal wave, then the caps never sit right causing the paint to ooze or pour out. Luckily, my local carries the line but they never get restocks so I gotta pass on those even though I like using his washes.
A little bummed you aren't checking out the new recipe for turbo dork, but looking forward to part 2!
I didn't know they had one!
@@LylaMev Yup, back in I believe February? came out with some new paints but released their "remixes" which are new dropper bottles and an improved recipe for their already existing line. I've heard some good things, might be worth reaching out to them! 😀
Wow! The tho thin coat are saturated! :o
Right!?
I've always been a little unsure of why people want such vibrancy in their paints, and order to get them to the right color wouldn't you have to like dilute them a lot and like tone them down and mix and it would take a while to get like a realistic red like when you'd see out in the world. With the vibrant colors of like Chimera. There may be some things I don't understand about painting I'm not a professional
The more vibrant a model, the more readable it is from the table.
You can always dull down vibrant paint but you can not saturate dull paint. Therefore vibrant paints are more versatile and 12 colours can already cover a massive range making them cheaper in the long run. When batch painting a whole army people understandably don't want to mix that much and resort to premixed shades instead, but for single model painting I would say that mixing paints can give a more interesting result.
Rogue hobbies signature by Pro Acryl?
I didn't think it was a new formula?
meanwhile the rest of the world is just catching up to fanatic lol
For a qualified comment, I need to see the second part ;-)
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exactly!
My experience with Huge Minis paints has been poor. Perhaps I got a first batch that was bad, but they thin so poorly and tend towards the more translucent side that I'll never buy them again. It's a shame because their colors are good and vibrant but it's such a pain to actually get it on something.
Two Thin Coats placement in the triad is very much listed on the bottle. Its just a letter, B for base, or H for highlight etc. It's funny cuz you actually showed it front and center when you were showing the comparison with the army painter triad.
Yes! I did see the Base, midtone, etc. What I mean is that I have no idea what triad each one belongs to. There are 4 brownish sets, and therefore 4 brownish base coats. Which base belongs to the bardic skin highlight set? Labeling them as "base" is only so helpful.
I'm a simple man. I see Lyla post, I click and watch through the end. Every one of your videos is worth the watch.
FIRST!
heck yeah!
Looking farward to part 2
It’s not hard. Just buy Vallejo and you won’t be disappointed.
Plenty of great paint ranges but why bother. Vallejo is great.
TBH Huge Miniatures Paints look awful as F.
Then in 6 months, Lyla will make a video called, " I WAS SO WRONG" with her with a sad face in which she says she's throwing out the paints she recommended. zzzzz
thanks for the comment!
Is there any difference between the Ammo Atom Smart paints vs the standard Atom paints?
I will be bringing home a set of the Atom Smart Paints when I visit home next week but am wondering if I should order a couple of the standard Atom sets.