Code Geass - Episode 2x19 - Betrayal - The Normies Group Reaction
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2022
- Zero moves further into his resolve to go buck wild and challenge more or less the entire planet. And then...then there is Nina. AND THEN.... then there is Nadalie. And then....there is Betrayal.
Fan service is still intact though, don't you worry. They would not dare.
Today the Normies react to Code Geass Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 : Episode 19 - Betrayal! The Shark will be jumped, and it's a big shark. Make sure to leave a comment and tell us how you REALLY feel and check in with us on Discord.
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"I didn't expect to feel bad for Rolo"
Every code geass fan ever
There were still plenty of Adult Swim forum commenters that refused to cry for Rolo back then.
@@primepm8861 well, adult swim forum is full of cringe people
@@albertofrankdiaz6664 I meant back when it aired, but it's nice to know some things never change.
Still don't feel bad for him, because of Shirley.
i cried in those scenes but I can see why people hate him but thats just due to his terrible upbringing
We're in the endgame now.
*Puts 1 finger up*
@@realDTBazeYT snaps fingers
Can't wait
@@realDTBazeYT kid named finger
Tinky winky
This episode is so well done. It managed to take, in an instant, a character that was generally loathed by the viewer, Rolo, and make you feel mournful for him and his tragic story and end.
I actually love it when Diethart uses those Journalist puns.
Tamaki is quite literally the most important character in this story. He is the one who deviated from the plan that cause C.C. to meet Lelouch, he was there in every major moment of the black knights endeavors.
Dudes the Forrest Gump of the Code Geass universe. Stumbles into every important event
Wasn't it Nagata (the guy driving the truck with Kallen)?
@@Chocolatepain Nagata says "damn it, this is all because Tamaki didn't follow Naoto's plan" when they are being chased by the army implying that if not for Tamaki they wouldn't have been there or at the very least pursued.
Just throwing this out there ... to f with people...:
Tamaki x cornelia
@@In-The-Zone It made no real difference. Eventually C2 would meet Lelouch just according to Charle's plan.
Lelouch was just bait all along.
It’s crazy how the ONLY Blacknight that has had Geass used on them is the only one standing up for Lelouch and quite literally is prepared to die at the hands of her friends just to try and shield him from them. Kallen is a real one. ✊🏼😤
When did she have it used on her? Been a while but I don't recall that ever happening. Also, who, exactly, did he use it on in the black knights? He's always made it a point to have them fight because they want to (unlike later).
@@Ultimatestrife he used it on Kallen who later became a black knight. He used it on her to find out if she was the pilot of the Glasgow during the Shinjuku incident.
Rolo's death still hits me so hard, and I've watched this show so many times. 😭
All Rolo wanted was to have a family after a lifetime of being used. He found his family and didn't want to lose that feeling. I think Rolo was one of the few people who understood Lelouch and knew how he sometimes even lied to himself to find the strength to keep going. While I'm sure Lelouch didn't like what he did to Shirley, he didn't express any hate towards Rolo in his final moments. Or even after he was gone. All he expressed was worry and panic. That locket that he claimed was important to him because it was for Nunnally, he didn't take it and give it to her. Instead he gave it to Rolo because he did love him like a brother. Even after Lelouch spat those hateful words at him, Rolo still came to help. Because he believed in his big brother. R.I.P. Rolo Lamperouge.
Tamaki might be dumb and annoying but he was the last one to lose hope in Lelouch
Well you can say that tamaki is an idiot and idiots have a hard time changing minds ...tamaki was also the last one to accept zero
@Theunwantedwings i doubt it, he's easily flippant; but he just got an official position among the Black Knights so he's stood up for Zero with Diethard at least until they lose the argument.
he's someone who's more annoying than an ass,
a dumbass.
Whenever Lelouch does his acting. he never lies instead he only says lines that the other person was wanting. A good example was the last episode when Suzaku was asking him questions. Suzaku already blames him for everything so every answer he gave him was that it was him and it was the plan all along. Also, the smile of Lelouch during rolo's death was real because it was the same smile he wears with Nunnally and Euphie on the island.
Johnny Yong Bosch is so fucking good man. The best dub actor imo.
Yes, since Trigin, his first voice acting role.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 no way, vash was his forst dub role?
@@frenchynoob According to IMDb and Wikipedia, yes.
Mr dead weight?
@@dwnkaomwn3953 damn I miss Trigun, that was a good show, I pretty like its vibe
even despite the malice he showed to Rolo after Shirley’s murder, Lelouch’s first reaction after being saved by Rolo was to worry about how repeated use of his Geass would result in his death. It’s multiple shades of gray and mixed feelings after all that’s been said and done but I can’t deny the feeling that Lelouch still cared about Rolo
nina experienced the same than oppenheimer after the 2 nukes, he said very disturbing: "i am become death, destroyer of worlds" a depression after that event
This show is tragic and ironic at the same time.
I don't think Nina knew how big the explosion would be, I think she only knew that it would release enough energy to be used as a better bomb. Or maybe she did and overlooked it in the heat of the moment who knows. RIP rolo tho
She only understood the damage through calculations not the loss of human life. Seeing the names of all the dead is what made her understand the actual cost of war and the weapon she created which she never had experienced before.
@@In-The-Zone
Agreed!
She knew 100% how devastating that bomb was! But she was so blinded by her hatred for Zero and her desire to beat him that she didn't stop to truly understand what firing F.L.E.I.J.A. mean't.
Nina made it actually for eliminating her target: Zero. She of course knew its use, (i.e., on the battle field only) and its current blast range, perhaps to ensure little to no chance of escape when it detonates near Zero. it's just unfortunate that the Geass took over Suzaku and caused him to intently aim at and destroy the threat on the Geass command to "live". That threat was Kallen; but since Lloyd and Cecille tampered with and modified the Guren, the Guren's evasive maneouvre leveled up, and FLEIJA thus didn't hit it directly, but hit and detonated near the government bureau instead. Nina's calculations may haven't factored innocent people as collateral damage, a designated battlefield wouldn't have as much anyway, maybe. it's just that the Tokyo settlement became one (a battleground) in just a matter of hours, so people didn't have as much time to flee from the imminent and/or ongoing battle.
I am not sure but I'd read somewhere that Nina actually put a limiter on the Bomb limiting it's damage to 1 or 10% (something like that) but Schneizel secretly removed the Limiter without Nina's knowledge which is why Nina was so surprised this episode coz she had no idea that The bomb would be used at its Maximum damage
@@NaveenShrivastava-yv4fi ⚠️ spoiler alert:
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that'd be in a future episode 😅
Lol, Suzaku finally got mad, he is different now because he realized something that force to laugh him so hard
And with this, we enter the final rollcoster of the Code Geass Finale!!! Lets enjoy!!
Funny you guys mentioned Oppenheimer, cause nina has the same reaction as Oppenheimer when the nuclear bombs was used. He was devastated that he created such a weapon that can cause so much destruction.
These last 6 episodes hit really hard. It’s the reason Code Geass will remain my favorite anime.
Rolo showing some real brotherly love
extreamly simple explanation leluche lies to take sole reaponability hence why he whispers to kallen "you have to live". when they asked her if she wanted to die with him and she asked him what she was to him. depending on what he said she would have died for him and he knew it.
I like the line they give Rolo's VA (Spike Spencer) about the Absolute Defense Field. A little nod to his most recognized role as Shinji in NGE and the 'Absolute-Terror' Field. xd
Yeah i went from hating Rolo to loving the kid because of what he did and his tragic backstory and his love for his big brother Lulu. One of the best characters in this show (huge list BTW from major to minor characters)
Interesting fact: in the next time that plays in this episode Lelouch says to Rolo that he wasn't Lelouch vi Britannia's brother but he was Lelouch Lamperouge's.
Man I swear Lelouch's english VA is just on another level. He can easily compare to Japanese ones. He's also the voice of Ichigo. It made me switch to Japanese for Bleach because I could only see Lelouch when Ichigo spoke. It was a good decision
If it made you think of Ichigo then shouldn't you have switched to the sub?
@@ctvuniverse4414 yes I wrote English by mistake, I meant to say Japanese
Suzaku isn't to blame he was mind controlled...
But he knows of the command and it's power over him, and still chose to go into battle with the bomb on board. It's kind of like a drunk driver isn't it? You might argue someone wasn't in the right mind ti drive that car they crashed, be they were sober when they chose to over drink with access to said car.
@@smith22041 let’s be honest here…..the only person on the battlefield who could come close to killing him or at least put him in a potentially life threatening situation is Kallen. And she was rotting in a jail cell when this battle broke out. I think if he had known she would appear on the battlefield he wouldn’t have let them put the FLEIJA on the Lancelot. Because even Suzaku knew how dangerous a pilot Kallen is when he warned Gino not to mess around with her earlier in the season.
Lelouch and Suzaku are similar in that way. They don't make up excuses to justify their actions.
I love that Suzaku laugh at the end lmao
It's one thing Chris so say but look at all the progress Zero made (they even say it in the show as his defense) but the counterargument they give to that is how many Japanese he killed with Euphy and also how he killed and/or brainwashed japanese leaders or blackight staff too meaning no one is safe from his murder or brainwashing not even allies. He also refused to tell others like Toto about the bomb in his self interested pursuit of Nunnely again not in the intrest of his team or japan. The argument of "well look at the good he's done" ignorantly ignores all of that or what could happen further with a leader who doesn't care about you and could likely just take your mind. That along with the prince and princess agreeing to help the Blacknights have japan made them realize Zero is not good for them.
The issue is they’re being fed a version of the story that makes Lelouch look way worse, he’s never used his geass on a black knight, Euphy was an accident and no matter what you think Lelouch is the only reason they aren’t all dead already
It’s understandable why they reacted the way they do but they also come across as kinda ungrateful for just being willing to believe the worst possible interpretation of their leader handed to them by their enemies
While they do have reason to doubt the guy ... wasn't their brightest idea to agree in giving said "dangerous guy" to the prince of a nation that had no problem slaughtering their people.
How come they didn't imagine what would happen if Lelouch could be used against them?
@@jonasquinn7977 Euphemia's Geass is an accident, but you kept missing the post-Geass part where Lelouch manipulated the BK's sentiments to retaliate without even clarifying it (massacre) was all because of his powers. getting manipulated without your awareness, and at the expense of your people i.e., the Japanese, THAT is the dangerous part you should have understood if you really are impartial and on the shoes of the BKs
@@gemelwalters2942 they're alive to be manipulated
@@VivioSaf Schneizel has a diplomat reputation. Zero has no face or biography.
11:13 I mean, that's a lie, they never met face to face.
13:50 to make Karen abandon him and walks away since he anticipates a lot of bullets flying in his general direction.
Lelouch is acting like that for a reason and I hope you guys get it at the end.
The thing that really made them turn on Lelouche was the Euphy reveal, as they don't know that was an accident and believe he did it on purpose. When you realize the biggest loss Japan had was caused by him directly, you'll inevitably start to wonder if he really is helping or just making things worse. That added to everything else is enough to justify the betrayal.
I will always just shake my head at the black knights in this episode. lmao.
The best moments of the show are about to happen
What I love about Lelouch is that he always held himself accoutable for his actions. The black knighs here, instead of talking to him, they just betrayed him and accused him of manipulating them while they were battling Britannia since the beginning. That was their choice and they pinned it on Lelouch and sided with the enemy without even talk to him in a decent way.
Well the geass factor force a bit the thing
@@unlimited971 True! But after what they accomplished together, I think it would have been fair to talk to him before completely trusting Schneizel which as a mortal enemy up until this point!
From now on everything in this show is at its peak. Not even kidding, the next 5 episodes are pure gold.
Also Rolo's death almost made me cry. R.i.p Rolo, your life was harrowing and your choices bad, but you were loyal to the end.
Steve Blum who is also in this show voices a lot of characters in Naruto (Zabuza, Ao and Juzo)
You gave a good reason why Lelouch said they were all pawns.. just before we heard him thinking he was checkmated, so no way out. Meaning if Kallen would have stayed with him she would have died with him.. he actually asks her to live just after that. Makes me believe he put up that act for her to leave him so she would be saved.
Suzaku may have fired that weapon, but he never would've if it wasn't for Lelouch's "Live" command. Suzaku was willing to let himself be killed by Kallen, but that Geass command will always override his desire to die.
True. Dude has been suicidal since the start of season 1. The geass command is the only reason he is still alive.
So close yet so far... the final run will be insane!
20:20 it will all make sense why hes making people hate him in later episodes, i think you realised in the finale reaction but when you look back it all makes sense
Lelouch now has a revitalized purpose and there's no going back
CONTINUED STORY STARTS PLAYING!! THIS IS THE EPISODE WHERE THEY START TO HEAR THE SONG THAT IS GONNA HAUNT THEM AND MAKE THEM CRY WHENEVER THEY HEAR IT! GOD BLESS OUR KING ITS A BRIGHT LIGHT DAYYYYYY!!!
"what's your game here buddy?"
That's the thing, he probably accepted death and just wanted to save Kallen. He thought Nunally is gone and the black knights is out of his control, so he basically have nothing. He probably saying in his mind why live. Thankfully Rolo came, the proof of this is his actual next move which is attacking Charles. All throughout the 2 series the ultimate goal is to see Britannia's downfall but since he got nothing and hs believe the very reason he's doing this in the first place is dead he just go for the direct approach.
I still hate Ohgi. Not only did he betray his saviour, he betrayed the entire UFN by making a deal with the Britannians to get Japan back.
The entire Black Knights had their collective IQ drop to 0 the moment Schneizel walked in to the room.
The next 5 episodes are gonna be epic!!!
the next few episodes is gonna be a wild ride.
HERE WE ARE
I hope you double drop the last couple episodes at least it’s really one big art piece
On a sidenote Coosie is a brand, Cozie is the product. So Coosie makes beer cozies
Imagine, it only gets better from here.
Shits going off the rails now. Not in a bad way, just in a wild way.
David Lodge who voices Jiraiya voices Kenpachi hope he comes back October 10th
God Rolo's death always breaks my heart. He spend his whole life being used like a tool, but at the end of it he chose to do something of his own free will. To save the life of the person who made him feel like an actual human, even if that person didn't actually think that and was just manipulating them. You deserved better my sweet murderous child
For years now always hated how fast black nights turn on zero despite what happened like all they needed was ohgi to turn on their lider and only person willing to help their cause…. fuckers, but I guess it was necessary for plot
15:03 Demon
Had Lelouch not resigned himself to die, he could have used the Geass' limit of one use per person to prove that he never used it on them. It would give them peace of mind that every member of the Black Knights followed him of their own accord.
Big Episode that sets up the ending..I got to say something, has anyone noticed that Mickey often laughs at the emotional scenes? It's really odd at times...it like this (rolo dieing moments) is a funny moment to laugh. I doubt I am the only one who noticed this..I do know that some ppl throw up that reaction as a sort of self defense bc they don't want to feel bad or feel the weight of the scene but thats the purpose of the scene..to draw out a emotional reaction to a character who in this case the viewers either don't like or have set feelings for and yet they get unexpected depth to said character.
agree, that behavior's kinda blunting the emotional impact of something that supposed to be felt otherwise.
No Nina,you don't get to feel bad now,this is what you wanted
Kallen and Suzaku: You just didn't want to have school!
Lelouch: A slanderous betrayal akin to 9-11!
Sources would later say that Lelouch called the initial criticism, "Essentially Accurate."
Do a freaking special and do 6 episode straight that's just 2 hrs and so
That's right way to watch the remaining episodes really, there's no other way for it.
You'll gonna see why they call codegeass is a masterpiece
My favorite episode
To answer Chris's question at the end about why Brittania wouldn't just come back and invade.
#1.) China and the EU. By this point China is being run by Xing Xe and the Princess and they're allied with the black knights. The EU as well.
#2.) Schnitzel. He's not one to break a peace agreement and would probably just try to puppet them slowly instead of wasting resources.
#3.) Succession of the throne. Although it should go to Ulysses, he's incompetent and quite content already. Plus there's like 60+ other people vying for the throne, and Schnitzel and Violetta are the best options. There's to be internal conflict.
#4.) They'd be allied. They gave over the leader of a rebellion to peace terms. Legally they couldn't do anything. Break that and the world would be against them again.
the black knights have reason to trust and not trust him at this point. Lelouch legit tossed the whole black knight for his sister but yeah BK should of kept him
Schneizel isn't like his father. He would be a far far better Emperor than Charles Vi Britania.
He will kill a few million people but he wants peace.
Ozymandias (Watchmen), Pain (Naruto), Light Yagami before he went crazy (Deathnote) and Schneizel (Code Geass), they all share the same character traits which makes them great antagonists.
Their brain may be diabolical, but their heart is in the right place.
Just pain starting from this episode
These black knights have every right to be suspicious of such a power like Geass, but to be honest if they were under it's control they wouldn't be able to betray him in the first place, and I'm sure if they were thinking more logically they'd come to that conclusion as well
Betrayal... yeah... a stab in the back.
Betrayal... yeah... I'm stretch on the rack.
Betrayal... yeah... thrown out of the pack.
Betrayal... betrayal... yeah.
Betrayal... betrayal... betrayal... yeah.
I liked the movie version on how they handled the interrogation scene at least they gave zero a chance to explain himself before it escalated
Thank god Chris is an arbitrator of logic
while Chris may be right, Ohgi doesn't necessarily is wrong or short-sighted. even for a brief period Ohgi thinks Japan deserves peace and independence, at least for some time under his watch and influence, and such small win is his atonement for blindly pushing for Zero's leadership in the early stages.
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if I was the black knights I wouldn't trust Britannia
Markeeta is looking a lot like katy perry
This is where the Black Knights officially lost me, especially that traitor Ohgi. Never mind that they betrayed their leader on the word of their sworn enemy and Ohgi's woman (an enemy commander he harbored for months), but by making that under the table deal with Brittania they also betrayed the rest of the UFN.
Not to mention Britannia could just be like yeah sure we'll give you Japan back... for a day of momentary freedom now we take it back lol. Literally nothing stopping them and technically did give it back so yeah just a stupid deal.
Lelouch betrayed them
I can understand not being happy with their decision but it wasn't one made lightly. There was evidence of his geass power.
As far as they all knew he might as well have been using their cause, their lives and their people to seize the thrown himself.
How do you justify the black knights operating beneath the man that ordered the slaughter of their people by Euphy?
@@TecTitan my only issue with that is that they easily bought into the hypnosis thing. They should think that if they were under hypnosis then no matter what schneizel said, they would have followed lelouch. Also ohgi betrayed zero the moment he started protecting Viletta. If not for that, vv would probably not have taken nunally back in s1
But they literally heard Zero admit to using his Geass on Euphie to massacre the Japanese
@@rohanmanuel1815 no, they didn't easily bought the hypnosis thing; they were convinced of it, practically from the recorded firsthand confession of Lelouch incriminating himself. The only other persons who can validate firsthand that Lelouch is Zero were Cornelia and Villeta; Diethard, seeming to be the last one of them standing up for Zero there, can not refute Villeta, and so there is no further arguments there but to move forward (like what Schneizel did) and negotiate (like how Ohgi did). Ohgi had to take responsibility, to reclaim Japan's independence however short-lived that maybe for now, but that is just a start for him to at least feel atonement for oushing for Zero's leadership since early on.
Just like Fmab the last 5 episodes are the best of the show
second fleja? anyone : P
Rollercoaster incoming
Im just waiting for these guys to react to Steins;Gate one day
Or Dr. Stone
Unpopular opinion: I don't really get the appeal of Steins;Gate. It was basically another adaptation of a VN. Never grabbed me as much as Code Geass did.
they are too dumb to understand that show
Tu tu ru!
@@primepm8861 I think Steins;gate is one of those, you either LOVE it, or you think it's 'meh'.
Watch dororo only 24 episodes are there.
Tbh Oghi is my least favourite character
Yep
The fleija is way better than nukes no radiation
How do you guys feel about american soldiers considering we have a shit ton of colonies that we invaded and colonized and still oppress to this day. Look up the cuban revolution from cubas perspective if you want a real life lelouch of the rebellion story
After this series end please consider watching Code Geass Akito its only a 3 part movie
Code Geass: Akito the Exiled is a 5-part story.
Kate Higgins who voices Ichigo Kurosaki's sister voices Kallen and Sakura Haruno 💖 😍 ❤ ♥ 💕 💓 💖
Kate Higgins is C.C. Kallen is Karen Strassman.
Are you guy’s going to React the Code Geass movie???
do not watch movie its not canon
Before Lelouch the rebellion was a dumpster fire. We get the messed up stuff Zero has done but their winning because of him.
A major theme is the value of success derived by the wrong means.
If you commit no evil but fail to save the world, what good is your actions then?
If you commit evil and in doing so save the world, how truly wrong can that evil be?
Suzaku wants to do it the right way, taking his shared goal with Lelouch and dividing it into two completely different operations that are directly at odds with each other.
The writing in this show is so good I could go on about almost virtual nonsense all day and it still makes a lot more sense than the garbage anime people try to compare it too.
Yeah, I hate Rolo. Still do, and I will continue hating him.
But you can't help feeling bad for him on this scene, unless you have no heart, regardless of everything.
now the show goes from "crazy schemes but still believable" to "now that doesn't make sense and shouldn't be possible"
Because the orange thing and the fact he took a criminal accused of slaying a PRINCE without either of them getting shot was just so super believable.
This comment doesn't make any sense man. Nothing after this point 'doesn't make sense and shouldn't be possible' that hasn't already existed in the earliest episode and you've already claimed the beginning of the show was just so down to earth and believable so: ???????
This comment hurts to believe someone actually thinks this, like did you watch the show... or?
Honestly, didn't like Mickey in this one. Felt like he was trying too hard to be funny or something. Like he refused to allow himself to be vulnerable. First time I didn't enjoy Micky.