Unlocking the Magic: New Zealand's Shane van Gisbergen's AMAZING Pedal Work
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Wheelsmith Professional Racer, Driving Coach Dave Smith gives insight into New Zealand's Shane van Gisbergen's technical pedal footwork.
Shane Robert van Gisbergen (born 9 May 1989) is a New Zealand racing driver in the Supercars Championship racing in the Number 97 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 car for Triple Eight Race Engineering. With three Supercars Championship wins (2016, 2021, 2022), 80 wins, and 46 pole positions, van Gisbergen is the fourth most successful racing driver in the Supercars Championship history.
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The brake pedal stab is also mainly for pad knock. In v8s kerbs can vibrate/knock the caliper pistons /pads away from the rotor which gives a bit of a soft pedal until they meet the rotor surface again. So this pushes the pads back into position. Either way it's to get the pedal firm/make sure it is firm.
Here's a good explanation from his ex team mate now team manager
ua-cam.com/video/m7QBQkjWLto/v-deo.html
Right on the money. Thanks for adding that information. 👍🏻
I mentioned this to Nascar fans and they got triggered going off at me saying I didn't know what I was talking about and I knew nothing about racing blah blah blah amongst other unsavoury and foul words lol. Apparently using the clutch in NASCAR is non existent so they have no idea how to do it which kind of explains why they lose control and spin out as much as they do for no reason. According to many if not majority to almost all NASCAR fans ''the clutch'' is obsolete a thing of the past, an ancient way of changing gears that is no longer needed in racing unless your on pit road.
100%. Ensuring the pistons in the callipers have not floated back from the pads. Motorbike racers also do it when they get a head shake from the front end.
@@JakeDemuss90214 Calm down, everyone is allowed to expand their knowledge and learn something new maybe you should learn to cook your own fkn eggs
don't forget that while he is balancing the brake and throttle, he is also fading the clutch so that there is no compression lockup on the rear
It wasn't that long ago that this was how every single race car on the planet had to be driven. Depending on the series, paddle shift/sequential transmissions have only been around for maybe 5-15 years. Before that, even in Indy (CART) and F1 cars (I'll admit, it's been probably since the 90's for F1 cars) had a clutch pedal that you had to actually use to shift gears. It's fun to watch, but I guess I'm just surprised that this many people are mesmerized by it. As a long time race fan, this seems normal to me. Perhaps I'm just getting old...
How racing should be done. The fact that they can take kids from a driving simulator and put them straight into a race car and they are fast illustrates just how much of these skills are no longer necessary in modern day racing
Just a typical drive for our aussie supercar heros.
Except he's a kiwi...
@@kiwikicker9263 In Aussie Supercars
In an Australian series where NZ can't provide any professional motorsport opportunities, so talented New Zealanders are lucky to get an opportunity in Supercars. This technique (heel & toe) is a fundamental technique used by all Supercars' drivers, just not something apparently well known in the US. @@kiwikicker9263
Also, for anyone that has never worn a pair of shoes for driving race cars, it is pretty cool how much you can feel with the correct shoe.
Very true! They’re also very form fitting and narrow which allows for closer pedal placement.
Yep you got the skill point…. Also note the difference in svg’s car on entering turn 1 in the Race clip you showed… you can see the difference … also note no exhaust flame, more efficient power use!
Good additional insight! SVG is extremely talented. Thanks for checking out the video.
He’s not checking to see if he has brakes, he’s reseat-ing the pads against the discs so when he does brake hard, the pad is as close to the disc so there is zero delay in brake effect. If he applied them so he felt pressure, he would in fact cause the car to slow as pressure only exists when there is resistance to flow and the fluid cannot be compressed.
It's both. You need to tap the brakes to remove any pad knockback, plus use that quick test to check there is some resistance on the pedal. Normally a double tap so that you feel the take up of the pad, then the 2nd hit should feel more immediately solid. There is a lot more pad knockback on floating rotors especially if bouncing off curbs. I'm not sure if the V8 Supercars or Nascar are running manual brakes or boosters, but on my car with manual brakes, I need to apply a huge amount of force to the pedal to stop the car (the G's under brakes help). A couple of quick jabs to check the brakes ares still there whilst on full throttle does nothing to slow the speed of the car.
Australian ! He’s a friggin Kiwi! Get it right!
@@Nic_B I can see where you’re coming from but if my memory of English lessons serves me well, adjectives describe the noun.
The subject of the sentence was SVG… ie: the driver. Qualifiers therefore apply to the subject.
To pursue your route of reasoning, when they raced in Pukekohe, it became NZ Supercars?
It makes about as much sense as Americans having a World Series.
@@Nic_B Incorrect.
0:34 “SVG an Australian super car DRIVER”. The driver is the subject of the statement.
@@Nic_B The whole video was about SVG. What he does when he’s not at NASCAR is superfluous and only added for extra info.
Established grammar dictates that: “The subject of the sentence is what (or whom) the sentence is about. In the sentence “The black cat is sleeping in the sun,” the word cat is the subject. A predicate is the part of a sentence, or a clause, that tells what the subject is doing or what the subject is.”
What the content creator should have said, to be less ambiguous was: “SVG is a Kiwi who also drives in a mainly Australian super car series.”
Those not in the know, will come away from this video thinking SVG is Australian.
@@Nic_B Perhaps you need to look at the other commenters who raised the same point.
And have a spoken English refresher course.
Bye
Shane Robert van Gisbergen is a New Zealand racing driver in the V8 Supercars Championship.
Chicago Street Race: Grant Park 220 Extended Highlights | NASCAR - ua-cam.com/video/XkNtOxnoHh0/v-deo.html
That footwork wasn't from the Chicago race but still a good indication of how the Supercar Driver use heel to toe
Thanks for your comment. I use video examples such as this to train my clients that are new to heel/toe.
@@wheelsmithinc I thought everyone used heel/toe...been doing it since a teenager (a hundred years ago), it's just part of driving.
His clutch work also reduces shock loading the tyres which ultimately reduces wear therefore his grip levels last longer, every little bit adds up and becomes a greater advantage the longer the run.
Sort of but not really. I have a TA2 race car with a race clutch. We don’t “fade” or “slip” a race clutch. Especially with dog gear engagement as is in a sequential or true dog box H pattern transmission. Race clutches are very small and have high clamping forces. If you slip a race clutch, it will overheat and burn out. Heel toe is used to prevent that sudden engine braking to the rear wheels if you just let the RPM to slow or have too much negative torque preventing the dogs from disengaging. We want engine braking, we have a brake balance bar/adjuster to mitigate how much rear deceleration bias from the brakes and engine, and most race car drivers, don’t want much rear brake as it causes oversteer/loose entry into corners. Tire wear to the rear wheel is mostly dependent on acceleration and cornering forces. Fronts are completely different.
He said that he was using the clutch when going over bumps to decompress the car to keep it more stable
so I guess that would save on tyre wear too
He’s a kiwi, show a little respect mate 😊
I appreciate your pointing out that SVG is a New Zealander, that races in the Australian V8 Supercar Championship.
He was 100% correct, SVG IS an Australian V8 Supercar driver
@@ray.shoesmith no incorrect mate, it’s not even called the Australian v8 Supercars. It’s the Supercars Championship, us aussies call it v8 Supercars as that’s one of its old names. SVG is the first to correct people on that as he was called Aussie all week haha
Yes he is a Kiwi Bro we need to Also acknowledge our Auzzie Brothers who have SVG the platform to showcase his Driving talent
@@wheelsmithinc We Kiwi's know that SVG is not an Austruckenfailian!
Thanks for the upload. I'm super impressed how he heels the throttle(moto lingo)whilst braking.He seems to keep the revs up for what I assume is keeping it in the sweet spot for the torque kerv. It's a fine line
Great explanation!
Been around since the ark mate...glad you're just learning the basics.
This is nothing new to old-school road race drivers and fans. It's only strange to left foot brakers and those who haven't learned to drive a manual trans.
@@mchristr Exactly. Which is practically all Gen Z. I shake my head when I see a post like this…like they are just discovering the wheel and then proclaiming it to the whole world as something brand new.
I have always driven a manual this way.
I grew up watching this footwork on TV during races.
That right foot inside heel on the bake pedal at 1:48 would be to shift some weight to the front of the car to get it balanced into the braking zone.
yes!!
Note the throttle control on exit as well, V8 supercars have skinny tyres and low downforce in comparison to many racing categories, being deft on the loud pedal reduces wheelspin.
That’s beautiful, unconscious, artful driving!! 😍Bravo!! 🏎️🏁♥️
Agreed!
He’s a Kiwi
And a very talented New Zealander indeed!
Just as a street driver I have been doing this for years and the same on a motor cycle when going hard in the hills. Much smoother when you are slowing down .
Wow American drivers are finally learning about heel and toe instead of squeeze and squirt. Welcome to the 21st century.
American drivers always used the heel & toe style of footwork until the 21st century. The new transmissions made it unnecessary.
Common foreign ignorance, it's been done for decades.
Maaaate .. you committed quite the sin there. We love our Aussie cousins .. but he’s very much not an Australian.
I learnt this when i started driving as the cars had poor syncromesh. Some of those brake stabs are to set the car up for the corner not to see if the brakes are working
Peter Windsor (on his YT channel) talks about how Max Verstappen does something similar on the brakes coming up to a curve, it may be a similar thing: just adjusting the balance of the car and allowing it to turn in differently. I don’t think Max does it to test the brakes but rather to change the attitude of the car (and obviously only braking with the left foot, no foot clutch in F1!)
Thanks for your additional information. Giving the pedal a little pressure resets the brake piston and pads right up against the disc, eliminating any gap for instantaneous braking response.
Whenever I heard someone heel-and-toe on the street, I used to smile and think, "There goes a car guy." Now, there are automatic throttle blip systems dual-clutch gearboxes on cars. I miss the simplicity.
Ayrton Senna test driving a Honda NSX heel & toe - ua-cam.com/video/kzLjZWrpzmQ/v-deo.html
touching the brake before braking is interesting
Favourite regular quote. “I’ve never seen that happen before “
Lets see him on oval, roles reversed..... This is his Forte. He's great but he drives this style of car..... 80 v8 super car Winn
S, oh 79......most cup guys have never raced a street coarse..... Still great job
All NASCAR drivers use to do this precisely as shown on road courses. When the newer transmissions came out it wasn't necessary anymore.
How would the transmission affect how the brakes operate?
@@silverdale3207 It doesn't. But with the new generation of NASCAR cars, you don't "have to" use the clutch to shift. The only reason they have a clutch pedal is to get moving when they stop. So, none of the current drivers "heel toe" this way. They left foot brake. SVG drives in a why that seems "old school" to a lot of younger people, so he's having to use his right foot on the brake AND the gas, at the same time. So, it's not changing how the brakes operate. It's doing 3 things, at one time, with 2 feet...which is a difficult skill to master.
@@m73m95 ah, that makes sense, so they're still pre loading the brakes but with the left foot instead. Cheers
@@silverdale3207 The bottom line is that if you can use both the brakes and downshifting to slow the car, it's a more balanced and effective way of slowing the car down than just using brakes alone. This requires smooth downshifting using the clutch with the left foot, leaving the right foot to take care of both the brake and gas pedals at the same time. Usually the ball of the foot is on the brake and the heel of your foot is on the gas pedal. It kind of looks like you're driving pigeon toed with your right foot. SVG, however, keeps his right foot on the brake pedal and rolls his right foot over to engage the gas pedal rather than using his heel. It also lessons the chance of rear wheel hop that happens when a driver uses heavy braking. When your rear wheels hop your braking becomes almost nonexistent. Heel/toe braking is important on road courses, but is critical on street courses. SVG has been racing street courses for many years and has perfected his heel/toe braking skill. NASCAR drivers have never raced on a street course before, at least not with NASCAR, and usually don't need to use heel/toe braking. I suspect they will make it a priority to learn/relearn that skill very fast if NASCAR continues with street courses. During the Chicago race, every time you saw a car go straight into the tire barrier at turn 6, it was because the driver only used brakes to slow down and the rear wheels started to hop, resulting in no brakes! SVG always used brakes and downshifting to slow his car and never had any wheel hop, all while slowing his car much better than the other drivers. Here's a very good example. Notice that the heel/toe technique is only used while down shifting, not upshifting. ua-cam.com/video/2Hm4LvnnnBc/v-deo.html
@@michaelrunnels7660 cheers, I've been navigator in my cousins rally car a few times and tried to watch what he did so had a rough idea but you explain it well in terms of balancing the car. No doubt it's second nature to SVG and he probably doesn't even think about it
I’m astonished that there is no dedicated foot rest over to the left of the clutch pedal.
These guys get blisters on their foot in the hot climate races
There's not really time to use one, and the harness/seat combo' holds him firmly in place, so no need to use one for bracing.
Brake stab is called reseating the pads.
The thing I am always curious about is if they are just stabbing the throttle to try to get it closer rev matched input and output or if they are actually timing it to near perfectly seamless clutch re-engagement.
Closer engine speed to wheel speed match for when the clutch disengages after selecting a lower gear. Used to be compulsory on a motorcycle when downshifting to prevent rear wheel lockup due to no weight on the back while braking. All bikes now have slipper clutches, so not really required anymore.
Thanks, I’m just amazed they can do it so smooth. Or smooth enough to not flip a bitch in a hard braking zone. I do this in my car leasurely but when I do it driving hard I get out of sorts eventually and crap my pants lol
Funny thing but,.. V8Supercars use a Sequntial 'box now, have for about a decade IIRC, and with those, you don't use the clutch anywhere except from a standstill, so normally, SVG would be Left Foot Braking, rather then the Heel/Toe needed for the NASCAR.
That's wrong. But don't take my word for - the Supercars coverage has lots of pedal video and SVG has his own UA-cam channel. Greg Murphy, Fabian Coulthard and Richie Stanaway all left foot brake, but all the other drivers are right-foot brakers. McLaughlan would left-foot brake for corners where no down change was need. I have been astonished to see how little so-called fans know about motor racing in the US. And how easily NZ drivers dominate American drivers. Why is there so little curiosity about how to be better? There's lots to learn watching Supercars.
Pedals are close in this car. When I went to track in my ss I had to do opposite toes on gas pedal heal on brake. Skill is giving just enough gas so car does not lock up but also not so much that you're giving to much gas and wasting fuel
This is not from Chicago this is from a few years back.
The only thing amazing about svg's footwork is the Nascar people are amazed . This is normal practice in most race cars and series . I guess you Oval guys just don't do much breaking or downshifting.
All V8 supercar drivers have the same technique. Have been doing it for years
Also helps when you have cows instead of calves
NASCAR now uses a sequential with dog ring engagement. No need to heel toe as a clutch is not used during shifting. Including downshifts. Heel toe is a used mostly for synchro transmissions.
Australia's Shane van Gisbergen
Australian Peter Brock is the master . King of the Mountain .
Dick Johnson , Jim Richards , Larry Perkins list goes on . They will show you foot work .
New generation drivers are overrated nothing like the legends of Australia Motorsport .
Calling a Kiwi an Australian is like saying an American is from Canada,
Worse than that - from Mexico!
Here he is racing at Townsville today
ua-cam.com/video/I6QdByAFVx8/v-deo.html
If I can do it in my street car surely paid drivers should be able too
his car dont backfire near as much
This is nothing new the ringers in the 90s robby boris Ron all did this
There is a video from Ricky Rudds car from 94. I remember others after seeing that. Every one thinks he invented this. Non race fans
Yes guys in NASCAR like Rusty Wallace and Mark Martin were doing this in the 80s. It's nothing new or impressive.
@@ballsthatclank it goes back waaay further than that
Americans really are amazed by the most basic things.
SVG driving on the wrong side of a car won the race but would have dealt to those yanks with a decent amount of time in the car.
Love how these yanks are so confident they know everything. Checking brakes as a mental stab lol. Mainly done due to pad knock off full stop ya peanut
No no... he is 'setting the car up for the corner' 😂
Omg nascar people. That is how all road/street racers work the pedals. It’s not amazing to anyone except nascar people.
He also had 16 lap newer tires ...
And your point?... That just means he either ran the set(s) before for 16 laps longer or he had an additional stop for tyres. Either way, that's also a deficit, just in the middle and not the end of the race.
There were also all the other factors working against him, not least being on the opposide side of the car from what he was used to, with his other hand doing the gear changes, and the car set-up being very different.
Lol and why is that? Did he have an extra stop? Or did he manage his old tyres further than everyone else before changing? Think about it.
Effective tyre management is critical for gaining an edge
Any of the top 10 drivers in the Australian V8 supercar series would have won that race.Shane Van Gisbergen is good but he’s not superman.There are some drivers who are just as good who drive against him in the Australian V8 Supercars.
Svg is a product of Australia. Without us he plays rugby or something. Credit where it’s due
Who cares we have great drivers that have paid their dues to drive in Nascar and more working their way up why bring this guy to run in Nascar we don't need him he can stay where he's at
Luke a boss is svg