Agreed. && I think a lot of people really overplayed issues that should not have been surprising to have in the very first model of this car… Going on for 20 minutes about how they couldn’t figure out how to open the doors with their own key fobs ultimately to find out this was an easy fix with taking it in for an update or in some cases even as simple as pressing the unlock button on your key fob… I can’t see much about the phone car key thing, and I would hope in the 2022 models some of these glitches and issues were dealt with, but I can’t say it would really change my mind overall on owning the vehicle if there were any issues with the phone being used as a key… I’ve never had a car that can do that anyway so it’s not like it’s a step down to have to use a key fob. Going on for 25min about this & issues w/ connecting to Bluetooth (which again, can be fixed w/ an update or by resetting it with the play/down buttons on wheel being held for 10 seconds), & proceeding to state these are reasons to sell the car & reasons buyers hated it- I just find a little over the top & fussy, && again, 25min about all this… Just overkill & unnecessary.. Almost like your looking for reasons to not like the vehicle.. I can say MANY if these higher end techy cars have similar tech issues, EVERY rover my mom has had has had several reoccurring issues with the tech inside… In fact, itheyve had several issues over all even when brand new & can be extremely expensive to fix. We’ve even had a few issues w/ our Tesla S model at one point the key & phone key not working at all. So these are not problems exclusive to the mach e. I think one should be realistic in expectations with ANY vehicle that is the first model and/or first of its kind as being the first, there will ALWAYS be kinks n bugs to learn from & work out.
@@USGrant21st this guy never abused it ... how can you abuse it ? it's bad design plain and simple and has nothing to do with abuse ... he is smart to get rid of that thing ...
@@richardblais5232 yes, he did abuse his car. I had my MME longer than he did and it never happened. You need to push the door really hard for it to even touch the other side much less to make a dent. Try bringing it for a warranty work, you will be laughed at.
@@USGrant21st yeah but he "left it open" ... he didn't "push it" ... negligence maybe ... the Model 3 will close automatically ... anticipating these human foibles ...
I think this is silly to argue about, & on its own? Not necessarily a reason in itself to ‘get rid of it as fast as you can.’ You should see the kinds of issues new owners have with a lot of the pricier popular cars out there like Range Rovers… lol. The way ppl pick this car apart, idk how Tesla made it through its early days of bugs & issues or how cars like Rovers stayed so popular if held to the same standards lol. && I guess I’ll have to rewatch but didn’t he say it was the charge port DOOR/cover that got dented? Or did he say the actual charge port was dented?? Cuz that makes a difference lol. If the port gets dented & you can’t put the charger in, that’s an issue but if it’s just the cover? That’s not what I could consider some make or break issue & if your used to a regular gas car in this price range that’s a few years older, your probably used to having to remember to close it manually.. I can tell you for ppl like me who have already had to remember to close the gas cap if I don’t want possible damage, for the whole of my life with every car I’ve ever owned, remembering to close my gas cap isn’t like some step backwards…
Good idea for Hyundai. Their ICE engines are shiiiit. The faster they move to electric, the better they can hope to erase the memory of their gas engines
Ioniq 5 is terrible in cold weather. It doesn't have the capability of battery warm-up/ winter package like Tesla's vehicles. So, if you park in cold area, good luck getting the car ready for a ride.
@@paccm333 I talk to some people (Korea and U.S.) that drove the Ioniq 5 in extreme cold weather and they all say the same thing. I'm just going by what others have told me.
i just found this channel and i can't stop watching your videos. good quality videos and straight to the point. not making the videos unnecessarily long.
@@KLWTTS I would get the Mach E GT or the Ford Evos. There are problems with every automaker right now because of supply chain issues. There are also software issues all related to many of these problems. Ford is building new EV battery and chassis plants in Tennessee, Michigan, and Kentucky. We are still dealing with a chip shortage but also materials for window sealing and roofs like we are having on the new Bronco. We will get it hammered out..
You look like your recording unscripted, but you do a very good job of not saying “um” or having weird filler. You seem like you know what you want to say - clear and to the point! Kudos
Ford Service can’t even upload a software update on my 2021 Ford F-150 so my screen doesn’t keep shutting off. I don’t trust them to be able to work on an EV should any issues arise
One thing about the traditional dealer model is that it leads to high variability in the experience one might have from dealer to dealer. I've bought 2 Fords (one ICE, one MME) from 2 different dealers but get them both serviced at a third. You just have to shop around for a dealer that does training and service well and give it your business.
For a Mustang, that is truly the worst looking vehicle I have ever seen. And I've owned multiple Mustangs in every single year bracket (except maybe late 70s). I intentionally did not go into detail about the other complete and obvious failure of this vehicle - and that's the obvious idiotic push to "force" electric cars onto the public. In 25-40 years, it MIGHT work, but the environmental religious zealots pushing this feel-good trash onto people never consider the infrastructure necessary to be in place for this type of vehicle to be viable. That missing yet necessary infrastructure makes widespread use (at the very least) decades away from being viable (except in regional "bubbles" due to regional needs and conditions). 95% of the nation/world does not need or want electric cars, and the proof is obvious with last year's electric car sales being less than 2% of total vehicle sales. This is why most within the supply chain are certain it will be a catastrophic loss for any part of the chain that dares dabble in pretending the opposite is true and people actually want electric cars. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Beautiful car the Mach e , you should get the Kia ev6 , best looking two electric SUVs in my opinion are the Mach e and Kia ev6, if I was to choose between these two it be a hard choice,would take forever to decide lol, try the ev6 I think alot of people would try it out on hire before buying for themselves so you'd Definitely make a profit on it over time 👌👍
I recently rented a Ford Mustang Mach-E RWD and Polestar 2 AWD 400 hp - both on Turo. Consider buying Polestar 2 - Man machine interface is very intuitive and great driving car.
I'm considering both of these vehicles. Test drove the Polestar and it was incredibly smooth and comfortable. Need to try my hand at the Mach-E. Perhaps I will give Turo a try for that extended time with it this spring
Cool short video. Any chance you can do a video on your renting with Turo experience? Pros/cons, insurance and maintenance, any drivers leave the car messed up?
$2,500 in 9 months does not seem like a very profitable business decision. Although, I imagine that number does not include any Mach-e related YT ad revenue. How much does a Model 3 or Y bring in through the same timeframe?
It seems like he was using Turo because he bought a car that was WAY out of his means. So he goal wasn't to maximize revenue, it was to cover his expenses and be able to drive it a little.
@@2011blueman - Turo-ing cars IS his business, so I’m sure there was a business case made. I also wouldn’t imagine that a Mach-e is “WAY out of his means” as it’s probably on the lower to middle end of the average car in his fleet (once you factor in the $7,500 incentive).
@@JhonnyOnasis Turo-ing new vehicles isn't a good business, and I watched his other videos. He's extremely leveraged financially and he really can't afford any of his vehicles (which is what prompted him to start turo-ing his first tesla in the first place).
Corvette made a mid engine, fighter jet, super car and this is fords response? I'm so disappointed as a classic mustang enthusiast. Ford has been getting it wrong since the early 90's. I thought they were going the right direction in the 80's but went the totally wrong direction. The small light weight 5.0's were a blast to drive as were the first gen with a couple upgrades. The 90's to 2020 were horrible to drive and were dangerous if really adding some power, couldn't keep them straight. Either way, this thing looks androids like a nice soccer moms ride.
I would totally agree with your final assessment. && I think a lot of people really overplayed issues that should not have been surprising to have in the very first model of this car… Going on for 20 minutes about how they couldn’t figure out how to open the doors with their own key fobs ultimately to find out this was an easy fix with taking it in for an update or in some cases even as simple as pressing the unlock button on your key fob… I can’t say much about the phone car key thing, and I would hope in the 2022 models some of these glitches and issues were dealt with, but I can’t say it would really change my mind overall on owning the vehicle if there were any issues with the phone being used as a key… I’ve never had a car that can do that anyway so it’s not like it’s a step down to have to use a key fob. Going on for 25min about this & issues w/ connecting to Bluetooth (which again, can be fixed w/ an update or by resetting it with the play/down buttons on wheel being held for 10 seconds), & proceeding to state these are reasons to sell the car & reasons buyers hated it- I just find a little over the top & fussy, && again, 25min about all this… Just overkill & unnecessary.. Almost like your looking for reasons to not like the vehicle.. I can say MANY if these higher end techy cars have similar tech issues, EVERY rover my mom has had has had several reoccurring issues with the tech inside… In fact, itheyve had several issues over all even when brand new & can be extremely expensive to fix. We’ve even had a few issues w/ our Tesla S model at one point the key & phone key not working at all. So these are not problems exclusive to the mach e. I think one should be realistic in expectations with ANY vehicle that is the first model and/or first of its kind as being the first, there will ALWAYS be kinks n bugs to learn from & work out.
This is a reason it may be better to wait for the second or third models to come to be. I’ve heard many ppl talk about buying after it’s had a few thousand miles put on it (especially with some of these expensive, fast, & techy cars), as ppl say then you avoid having to deal with those early problems & kinks that have usually been addressed by then. Anyhow, I’m looking to potentially buy the ‘22 mach e && def appreciate the quick overview /review on the car & am glad to hear the recall is your only reason for selling as some reviews have made me question the purchase but overall, I feel many have been too hard on this vehicle & feel for the price, it’s a good choice for EVS. Ford may not have the EV experience Tesla has but the ‘good’ spacious Tesla models are also more expensive by quite a big difference w/ the model X being like 30k more than a mach e & the y, just feeling a lot smaller inside with a smaller screen which I don’t like… I’ve only driven the S & the X, not yet tried the 3 or the Y, but I would assume the Y drives just as nicely as the S or the X (though the performance X is just… I mean jaw dropping awesome if you can afford a 100k car). So I would say the Teslas may be a bit better, but the models I’d say are better also cost more. Either imo would be a great choice so thanks again for
All EVs are basically time bombs, so paying more than $30k for any EV regardless of brand is a waste of money because at some point the battery will have premature wear or endurance decreases. All cars in the salt belt will die faster as the salt used on the roads will make it into the battery compartment and corrode the batteries requiring an expensive job to repair dead cells or rust. Go look up the cost it ranges from $5-7k rather than $25k+ for a new battery.
Agreed. Obviously a Rivian in the long term, but I'd rent the hell out of a performance pack Polestar 2. Assuming you don't want to reach for something more expensive.
Not sure how accurate it is, but there's a lot of feedback on Tesla's build quality. Misaligned panels, squeaks & creaks, ride quality, road noise in the cabin, etc.
It doesn’t with to AC charging. It might drop to AC like speeds but all cars charge all the time on DC. It’s just that there is an inbuilt AC to DC unit on the car so you can charge on an AC supply.
@@KLWTTS European market Teslas? Or Tesla CSS adapters. Or if looking specifically for non-Teslas then, whilst awkward, importing from EU would give you a wider range of EV models such as Chinese models. Enough stupid suggestions though. It must be difficult to build a fleet with so much over-demand across the brands.
After the Christmas update I've genuinely been looking at cancelling the lease on my Model 3... The fact that overnight they not only made the car worse to use but in some situations downright dangerous has really made me question whether they have actual humans testing any of this stuff.
Tesla is making the most unreliable cars with lots of cosmetic, mechanical, and other defects, and adding insult to injury, the service takes forever as well as waiting for spare parts. I would never buy a Tesla.
I bought a Mach E Premium (standard range, RWD) in August for $47k after a $1100 discount for using Ford Options. I’ll also be getting the full $7500 tax credit back in Feb. I sold it a month ago to GiveMeTheVIN for $54k. It was a no brainer. Loved the car, but couldn’t pass up that offer.
THE STUPIDITY OF PEOPLE CALLING THESE GREEN CARS IS MORE SHOCKING Than THE ELECTRICITY THEY USE , HOW ABOUT A FOLLOW-UP A HONEST ONE ABOUT THE POLLUTION COST OF GETTING BATTERY MATERIAL , and is slave labor being used etc. what about what happens to those batteries when they go bad , the cost of trying to recycle them, etc. and the pollution of making the batteries elsewhere . PLUS THE POLLUTION ELSEWHERE OF THE ELECTRICITY TO CHARGE THEM, PLUS THE MORE BURDEN ON THE POWER GRID WHEN MORE OF THESE CARS ARE MAINSTREAM , CA. ALREADY HAS BROWN AND BLACK-OUTS FROM LACK OF ELECTRICITY AT CERTAIN HOURS BECAUSE OF BAD LIBERAL POLICIES , IMAGINE THAT AND HIGH ELECTRICITY COST ON TOP OF THAT .
The Ford battery issue is troubling for more reasons than the 80% cutoff. The Mach-E performance is limited to just a few seconds of full throttle before Ford neuters it. This screams there is a battery issue far more in depth that they haven't been able to get under control yet. Did they not design their thermal cooling properly?
@@irish0625 The 80/20 rule is a best practices for lithium in general. What is happening on the Ford's however is they are setting a cap around 80% as a soft limiter when fast charging. Combined with the performance throttling after a few seconds and you certainly have issues, most likely thermal. WIll be interesting to see how they handle it.
The cooling system doesn't have the capacity to maintain peak power for extended durations. Same issue the Model S had for years. It kinda sucks because the car is much slower in the 1/4 mile than the Model Y. Ford should've told people what to expect instead of letting them find out after the car was released for sale.
Teslas have Terrible fit and finish...Also I want to thank everyone that bought a New Car as soon as they came out..These issues will be corrected on my 2022..THANKS FOR TAKING ONE FOR THE TEAM...
So his experience is not at all typical. He rents his car out. Most people also just slow charge over night at home. Having to take it to the shop for software updates though would be a pain.
Thanks for the video I also run a small turo business with 2 Tesla's and a Honda And I'm looking at expanding To other EVs. I have other teslas on reservation right now but I'm aggressively looking for a Audi Q4 etron before the end of the year to take advantage of the Is old tax Credit. Do you have any experience with this vehicle on turo or similar non tesla evs
growing up in southern CA, mustangs were popular. Mustang's look pretty, but they suck. Can't corner, terrible maintenance and only good for drag racing.
The Mach E is fantastic. People buying these and making the measuring stick how they work on road trips is silly. Buy an Ice vehicle if you want to road trip. With a range of 250 its not there yet.
do you tell your insurance company you rent your cars out? Mine forbids that. Your negative points are valid. I have the same ones. IMO, they are too minor. Ride and style are more important. Ford is a very conservative company.
I would sell it also after a couple of months because the charge network sucks because not all chargers equal the rate of charge and many times they are broken.
Maybe when comparing modelY mention also how much worse electrify America charging experience is compared to Tesla supercharger and how terrible the machE in car infotainment and navigation software quality issues is causing you to use your phone with CarPlay to navigate instead despite the connectivity issues. I personally can only compare my 2018 Model3 to the MachE I test drove and while it is a fine car especially compared to fords ICE sedans, I could not come to the same conclusion of the only reason for selling being the charge door design and the recall for the glass affixment. The autopilot, supercharger, smoother cornering, less lag acceleration and sportier steering of the Model3 are at least in my world a huge advantage.
@@didiermejia780 Tesla developed a superior form of propulsion technology. Many other legacy auto companies are slowly recognizing this feat and hoping to catch up but fail to have the leadership, technology, and educated personnel to make such a change. RIP legacy auto…🙄🎄👌
$2500 profit in nine months is less than $9.50 a day. B.F.D. I can average twice to thrice that per hand on a $5-$500 Blackjack table in roughly 100 hands. At 2 - 3 hands a minute that's around 45 minutes.
Funny I live in MD and my self driving works even though the dealer told me it Won't because it's in testing on the Westcoast lol. I love my Mach-E no complaints so far.
@@KLWTTS last month. Random lol just went to test drive see what the hype was about EV cars and I fell in love plus saving $200 a week in gas I drive 68 miles to work and back. Sat working out numbers for 5 hours and got a hell of a deal. I didn't know about all thr rebates and tax credits. RWD California route 1 extended battery. Model I wanted but I wanted black or white but I got it in Red which is growing on me.
Don't have any problems with charging. You usually stop to charge every 100-150 miles, because that's the typical distance between chargers on interstate. Taking into account that charging in ALL cars is faster when the battery COC is lower, overall you save time charging more often, not even mentioning the effect on the longevity of the battery. Unless the battery capacity increased to 800 miles, which would allow a whole day of driving w/o charging, all those charging quirks make no real life difference.
The biggest weakness of Tesla's are indeed their internal creaks/rattles. That's my only major complaint about my 2021 Model 3 Performance. I have installed several foam pieces in several pieces to help, but it's a shame to have to do all this on a new $60k car. Otherwise, Teslas are just amazing!
I suspect OTA updates in Detroit-brand autos are limited so that they can appease their dealer network. Otherwise the rate of dealership closings would increase even faster as EV's become the norm. At least in the shop they have a small chance of also selling tires and wiper blades.
@@KLWTTS illustrates an important point when it comes to vehicles. If we become to dependent on technology, it could be a risk when it breaks. The cameras and sensors for blind spot come to mind. Particularly if you live in a nasty climate.
I was considering the Mach E but decided to go with Tesla for 2 reasons: 1-the dealership added "fees" resulted in a total of $5,000 over the price quoted by Fords website, 2-I heard about the Mach E charging 80% issue. I decided on Tesla and recently received my Tesla model 3 one week before Christmas. My thought is that auto makers are so new in making EV's that they may have issues that Tesla does not have or already has resoled. Tesla has already done the R&D and has years of experience... plus my model 3 is far more than just "miles per charge", it does things (via the built-in calibration equipment), that no other vehicle can currently do!
Good job keeping it brief. A lot of commenters/UA-camrs blabber on and on forever about a relatively simple topic. I appreciate brevity.
Agreed. && I think a lot of people really overplayed issues that should not have been surprising to have in the very first model of this car… Going on for 20 minutes about how they couldn’t figure out how to open the doors with their own key fobs ultimately to find out this was an easy fix with taking it in for an update or in some cases even as simple as pressing the unlock button on your key fob… I can’t see much about the phone car key thing, and I would hope in the 2022 models some of these glitches and issues were dealt with, but I can’t say it would really change my mind overall on owning the vehicle if there were any issues with the phone being used as a key… I’ve never had a car that can do that anyway so it’s not like it’s a step down to have to use a key fob. Going on for 25min about this & issues w/ connecting to Bluetooth (which again, can be fixed w/ an update or by resetting it with the play/down buttons on wheel being held for 10 seconds), & proceeding to state these are reasons to sell the car & reasons buyers hated it- I just find a little over the top & fussy, && again, 25min about all this… Just overkill & unnecessary.. Almost like your looking for reasons to not like the vehicle.. I can say MANY if these higher end techy cars have similar tech issues, EVERY rover my mom has had has had several reoccurring issues with the tech inside… In fact, itheyve had several issues over all even when brand new & can be extremely expensive to fix. We’ve even had a few issues w/ our Tesla S model at one point the key & phone key not working at all. So these are not problems exclusive to the mach e. I think one should be realistic in expectations with ANY vehicle that is the first model and/or first of its kind as being the first, there will ALWAYS be kinks n bugs to learn from & work out.
I hear ya, like a 5 min intro that is not saying anything
Brevity is the sincerest form of wit.
My Tesla is a piece of crap I’ll take anything but my overpriced Tesla
I’d love to see you guys get a Hyundai Ioniq 5 or a Kia EV 6.
What about a Hyundai ioniq5 or Kia ev6?
The damage resulting from the charge port is no small thing ...
except it never happens if you don't abuse it
@@USGrant21st this guy never abused it ... how can you abuse it ? it's bad design plain and simple and has nothing to do with abuse ... he is smart to get rid of that thing ...
@@richardblais5232 yes, he did abuse his car. I had my MME longer than he did and it never happened. You need to push the door really hard for it to even touch the other side much less to make a dent. Try bringing it for a warranty work, you will be laughed at.
@@USGrant21st yeah but he "left it open" ... he didn't "push it" ... negligence maybe ... the Model 3 will close automatically ... anticipating these human foibles ...
I think this is silly to argue about, & on its own? Not necessarily a reason in itself to ‘get rid of it as fast as you can.’ You should see the kinds of issues new owners have with a lot of the pricier popular cars out there like Range Rovers… lol. The way ppl pick this car apart, idk how Tesla made it through its early days of bugs & issues or how cars like Rovers stayed so popular if held to the same standards lol. && I guess I’ll have to rewatch but didn’t he say it was the charge port DOOR/cover that got dented? Or did he say the actual charge port was dented?? Cuz that makes a difference lol. If the port gets dented & you can’t put the charger in, that’s an issue but if it’s just the cover? That’s not what I could consider some make or break issue & if your used to a regular gas car in this price range that’s a few years older, your probably used to having to remember to close it manually.. I can tell you for ppl like me who have already had to remember to close the gas cap if I don’t want possible damage, for the whole of my life with every car I’ve ever owned, remembering to close my gas cap isn’t like some step backwards…
Ioniq 5 would be a great business decision.
Good idea for Hyundai. Their ICE engines are shiiiit. The faster they move to electric, the better they can hope to erase the memory of their gas engines
Ioniq 5 is terrible in cold weather. It doesn't have the capability of battery warm-up/ winter package like Tesla's vehicles. So, if you park in cold area, good luck getting the car ready for a ride.
@@lancetruong4957 Did you experience that or you guess it ?
@@paccm333 I talk to some people (Korea and U.S.) that drove the Ioniq 5 in extreme cold weather and they all say the same thing. I'm just going by what others have told me.
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@@KLWTTS I would get the Mach E GT or the Ford Evos. There are problems with every automaker right now because of supply chain issues. There are also software issues all related to many of these problems. Ford is building new EV battery and chassis plants in Tennessee, Michigan, and Kentucky. We are still dealing with a chip shortage but also materials for window sealing and roofs like we are having on the new Bronco. We will get it hammered out..
You look like your recording unscripted, but you do a very good job of not saying “um” or having weird filler. You seem like you know what you want to say - clear and to the point! Kudos
Ford Service can’t even upload a software update on my 2021 Ford F-150 so my screen doesn’t keep shutting off. I don’t trust them to be able to work on an EV should any issues arise
One thing about the traditional dealer model is that it leads to high variability in the experience one might have from dealer to dealer. I've bought 2 Fords (one ICE, one MME) from 2 different dealers but get them both serviced at a third. You just have to shop around for a dealer that does training and service well and give it your business.
The Hyundai Ioniq 5 or Kia EV6 look sweet. I’m excited for the Genesis GV60 coming soon, too.
Love the transparency on the economics!
Yup. And it shows that this business model is all about volume, as well as a fantastic relationship with your bank/lender!
The man can't charge at home, he doesn't have wifi in the garage, he doesn't have his music on a USB stick. And thats enough for selling it.
I think you're selling it because you can make a profit even after 9 months and 23,000 miles but I guess that's another video.
Great camera work. 🚘🎥📷 good job guys 🙌🏻
The Tesla Y is the worst riding vehicle I've ever driven. A horse & buggy has a more comfortable ride.
Get another Y 😂
For a Mustang, that is truly the worst looking vehicle I have ever seen. And I've owned multiple Mustangs in every single year bracket (except maybe late 70s).
I intentionally did not go into detail about the other complete and obvious failure of this vehicle - and that's the obvious idiotic push to "force" electric cars onto the public. In 25-40 years, it MIGHT work, but the environmental religious zealots pushing this feel-good trash onto people never consider the infrastructure necessary to be in place for this type of vehicle to be viable. That missing yet necessary infrastructure makes widespread use (at the very least) decades away from being viable (except in regional "bubbles" due to regional needs and conditions).
95% of the nation/world does not need or want electric cars, and the proof is obvious with last year's electric car sales being less than 2% of total vehicle sales. This is why most within the supply chain are certain it will be a catastrophic loss for any part of the chain that dares dabble in pretending the opposite is true and people actually want electric cars. Nothing could be further from the truth.
wait for the EV6
Ioniq 5 should be your next EV.
Love how he specifically asks for CCS suggestions and yet Tesla fanboys still recommend a Model Y. Ffs…
Yeah, I already have a few of those too, we just want to have more experience with the best of CCS
Beautiful car the Mach e , you should get the Kia ev6 , best looking two electric SUVs in my opinion are the Mach e and Kia ev6, if I was to choose between these two it be a hard choice,would take forever to decide lol, try the ev6 I think alot of people would try it out on hire before buying for themselves so you'd Definitely make a profit on it over time 👌👍
Hush, best kept secret in the EV market.
Yeah but it isnt out in the US. Where can you even try it at?
@@tehduffman it's out in UK and Europe but has long waiting list
I recently rented a Ford Mustang Mach-E RWD and Polestar 2 AWD 400 hp - both on Turo.
Consider buying Polestar 2 - Man machine interface is very intuitive and great driving car.
I'm considering both of these vehicles. Test drove the Polestar and it was incredibly smooth and comfortable. Need to try my hand at the Mach-E. Perhaps I will give Turo a try for that extended time with it this spring
Not very great profit for 9 months. Plus, a Mach-E will never become a robotaxi. Something tells me that residual value will tank at some point.
A current model 3 won't either anytime soon.
Cool short video. Any chance you can do a video on your renting with Turo experience? Pros/cons, insurance and maintenance, any drivers leave the car messed up?
You can charge a Tesla on CCS
Link, for an American Tesla?
@@scratchymaster I have a Setec-Power CCS adapter that I use with my Model 3, works great at EA and Chargepoint DC.
$2,500 in 9 months does not seem like a very profitable business decision. Although, I imagine that number does not include any Mach-e related YT ad revenue. How much does a Model 3 or Y bring in through the same timeframe?
It seems like he was using Turo because he bought a car that was WAY out of his means. So he goal wasn't to maximize revenue, it was to cover his expenses and be able to drive it a little.
@@2011blueman - Turo-ing cars IS his business, so I’m sure there was a business case made. I also wouldn’t imagine that a Mach-e is “WAY out of his means” as it’s probably on the lower to middle end of the average car in his fleet (once you factor in the $7,500 incentive).
@@JhonnyOnasis Turo-ing new vehicles isn't a good business, and I watched his other videos. He's extremely leveraged financially and he really can't afford any of his vehicles (which is what prompted him to start turo-ing his first tesla in the first place).
Corvette made a mid engine, fighter jet, super car and this is fords response? I'm so disappointed as a classic mustang enthusiast. Ford has been getting it wrong since the early 90's. I thought they were going the right direction in the 80's but went the totally wrong direction. The small light weight 5.0's were a blast to drive as were the first gen with a couple upgrades. The 90's to 2020 were horrible to drive and were dangerous if really adding some power, couldn't keep them straight. Either way, this thing looks androids like a nice soccer moms ride.
I would totally agree with your final assessment. && I think a lot of people really overplayed issues that should not have been surprising to have in the very first model of this car… Going on for 20 minutes about how they couldn’t figure out how to open the doors with their own key fobs ultimately to find out this was an easy fix with taking it in for an update or in some cases even as simple as pressing the unlock button on your key fob… I can’t say much about the phone car key thing, and I would hope in the 2022 models some of these glitches and issues were dealt with, but I can’t say it would really change my mind overall on owning the vehicle if there were any issues with the phone being used as a key… I’ve never had a car that can do that anyway so it’s not like it’s a step down to have to use a key fob. Going on for 25min about this & issues w/ connecting to Bluetooth (which again, can be fixed w/ an update or by resetting it with the play/down buttons on wheel being held for 10 seconds), & proceeding to state these are reasons to sell the car & reasons buyers hated it- I just find a little over the top & fussy, && again, 25min about all this… Just overkill & unnecessary.. Almost like your looking for reasons to not like the vehicle.. I can say MANY if these higher end techy cars have similar tech issues, EVERY rover my mom has had has had several reoccurring issues with the tech inside… In fact, itheyve had several issues over all even when brand new & can be extremely expensive to fix. We’ve even had a few issues w/ our Tesla S model at one point the key & phone key not working at all. So these are not problems exclusive to the mach e. I think one should be realistic in expectations with ANY vehicle that is the first model and/or first of its kind as being the first, there will ALWAYS be kinks n bugs to learn from & work out.
This is a reason it may be better to wait for the second or third models to come to be. I’ve heard many ppl talk about buying after it’s had a few thousand miles put on it (especially with some of these expensive, fast, & techy cars), as ppl say then you avoid having to deal with those early problems & kinks that have usually been addressed by then. Anyhow, I’m looking to potentially buy the ‘22 mach e && def appreciate the quick overview /review on the car & am glad to hear the recall is your only reason for selling as some reviews have made me question the purchase but overall, I feel many have been too hard on this vehicle & feel for the price, it’s a good choice for EVS. Ford may not have the EV experience Tesla has but the ‘good’ spacious Tesla models are also more expensive by quite a big difference w/ the model X being like 30k more than a mach e & the y, just feeling a lot smaller inside with a smaller screen which I don’t like… I’ve only driven the S & the X, not yet tried the 3 or the Y, but I would assume the Y drives just as nicely as the S or the X (though the performance X is just… I mean jaw dropping awesome if you can afford a 100k car). So I would say the Teslas may be a bit better, but the models I’d say are better also cost more. Either imo would be a great choice so thanks again for
All EVs are basically time bombs, so paying more than $30k for any EV regardless of brand is a waste of money because at some point the battery will have premature wear or endurance decreases. All cars in the salt belt will die faster as the salt used on the roads will make it into the battery compartment and corrode the batteries requiring an expensive job to repair dead cells or rust. Go look up the cost it ranges from $5-7k rather than $25k+ for a new battery.
Polestar 2 - Swedish design, great build quality, decent range, good performance.
Agreed. Obviously a Rivian in the long term, but I'd rent the hell out of a performance pack Polestar 2. Assuming you don't want to reach for something more expensive.
Owned by the chinese tho
@@trollwaffen1248 and?
@@SkippyPB. China is the worlds biggest enemy buy from literally anybody else if u can
@@trollwaffen1248 And what did you post your comment from?
Not sure how accurate it is, but there's a lot of feedback on Tesla's build quality. Misaligned panels, squeaks & creaks, ride quality, road noise in the cabin, etc.
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They just released the update to increase fast charging up to 90%.
We’ll have to try that before Vroom picks it up on Tuesday
It doesn’t with to AC charging. It might drop to AC like speeds but all cars charge all the time on DC. It’s just that there is an inbuilt AC to DC unit on the car so you can charge on an AC supply.
I would get another Model Y or Model 3 performance. I love my Y and have no complaints. The charging network alone is a game changer.
We're getting more Teslas for the fleet but also I want some CCS charging vehicles
@@KLWTTS Makes sense
@@KLWTTS European market Teslas? Or Tesla CSS adapters.
Or if looking specifically for non-Teslas then, whilst awkward, importing from EU would give you a wider range of EV models such as Chinese models.
Enough stupid suggestions though. It must be difficult to build a fleet with so much over-demand across the brands.
After the Christmas update I've genuinely been looking at cancelling the lease on my Model 3...
The fact that overnight they not only made the car worse to use but in some situations downright dangerous has really made me question whether they have actual humans testing any of this stuff.
Tesla is making the most unreliable cars with lots of cosmetic, mechanical, and other defects, and adding insult to injury, the service takes forever as well as waiting for spare parts. I would never buy a Tesla.
I bought a Mach E Premium (standard range, RWD) in August for $47k after a $1100 discount for using Ford Options. I’ll also be getting the full $7500 tax credit back in Feb. I sold it a month ago to GiveMeTheVIN for $54k. It was a no brainer. Loved the car, but couldn’t pass up that offer.
Wow look at this hustler
THE STUPIDITY OF PEOPLE CALLING THESE GREEN CARS IS MORE SHOCKING Than THE ELECTRICITY THEY USE , HOW ABOUT A FOLLOW-UP A HONEST ONE ABOUT THE POLLUTION COST OF GETTING BATTERY MATERIAL , and is slave labor being used etc. what about what happens to those batteries when they go bad , the cost of trying to recycle them, etc. and the pollution of making the batteries elsewhere . PLUS THE POLLUTION ELSEWHERE OF THE ELECTRICITY TO CHARGE THEM, PLUS THE MORE BURDEN ON THE POWER GRID WHEN MORE OF THESE CARS ARE MAINSTREAM , CA. ALREADY HAS BROWN AND BLACK-OUTS FROM LACK OF ELECTRICITY AT CERTAIN HOURS BECAUSE OF BAD LIBERAL POLICIES , IMAGINE THAT AND HIGH ELECTRICITY COST ON TOP OF THAT .
The guy looks like when you ordered Chris Pine from Wish.
He gets that a lot 😅
The Ford battery issue is troubling for more reasons than the 80% cutoff. The Mach-E performance is limited to just a few seconds of full throttle before Ford neuters it. This screams there is a battery issue far more in depth that they haven't been able to get under control yet. Did they not design their thermal cooling properly?
Every ev maker says don't charge past 80%
@@irish0625 The 80/20 rule is a best practices for lithium in general. What is happening on the Ford's however is they are setting a cap around 80% as a soft limiter when fast charging. Combined with the performance throttling after a few seconds and you certainly have issues, most likely thermal. WIll be interesting to see how they handle it.
@@irish0625 our 2015 Egolf DC fast chargers to 100%.
So many hoses.... ua-cam.com/video/m1kHsd3Ocxc/v-deo.html
The cooling system doesn't have the capacity to maintain peak power for extended durations. Same issue the Model S had for years. It kinda sucks because the car is much slower in the 1/4 mile than the Model Y. Ford should've told people what to expect instead of letting them find out after the car was released for sale.
Teslas have Terrible fit and finish...Also I want to thank everyone that bought a New Car as soon as they came out..These issues will be corrected on my 2022..THANKS FOR TAKING ONE FOR THE TEAM...
So his experience is not at all typical. He rents his car out. Most people also just slow charge over night at home. Having to take it to the shop for software updates though would be a pain.
DEFINATELY THE KIA EV6, GIVE IT A TRY, BAD ASS DESIGN.
Rivian.......
Thanks for the video I also run a small turo business with 2 Tesla's and a Honda And I'm looking at expanding To other EVs. I have other teslas on reservation right now but I'm aggressively looking for a Audi Q4 etron before the end of the year to take advantage of the Is old tax Credit. Do you have any experience with this vehicle on turo or similar non tesla evs
growing up in southern CA, mustangs were popular. Mustang's look pretty, but they suck. Can't corner, terrible maintenance and only good for drag racing.
Ioniq 5
Thanks on being true to the numbers. Now, I have to re-consider getting into car sharing business...
The Mach E is fantastic. People buying these and making the measuring stick how they work on road trips is silly. Buy an Ice vehicle if you want to road trip. With a range of 250 its not there yet.
You are driving a car with a screen and a computer and using your phone for GPS mapping? Why? Is the Ford mapping that bad?
Not a mustang, I own a real mustang and that crap ain't it. Evs are a joke, I'll keep my gas girl because I don't ever worry about any trips I take
Get a Taycan!
I wish 😍
Definitely Ioniq 5!
It being black has to be part of it. I don't know why that's a popular car color. Impossible to keep clean, and boring.
sold my after Only 8 months , find out the shocking truth here , before you go anyway else..so stupid..
Good video. I see you were at an Electrify America. Surprised you found one that works.
Polestar 2 Performance should be your next one !
Who sells and services Polestars here in USA?
do you tell your insurance company you rent your cars out? Mine forbids that. Your negative points are valid. I have the same ones. IMO, they are too minor. Ride and style are more important. Ford is a very conservative company.
Maybe you guys should buy the Hyundai ioniq 5. That’s a really cool quirky vehicle
I would sell it also after a couple of months because the charge network sucks because not all chargers equal the rate of charge and many times they are broken.
Maybe when comparing modelY mention also how much worse electrify America charging experience is compared to Tesla supercharger and how terrible the machE in car infotainment and navigation software quality issues is causing you to use your phone with CarPlay to navigate instead despite the connectivity issues. I personally can only compare my 2018 Model3 to the MachE I test drove and while it is a fine car especially compared to fords ICE sedans, I could not come to the same conclusion of the only reason for selling being the charge door design and the recall for the glass affixment. The autopilot, supercharger, smoother cornering, less lag acceleration and sportier steering of the Model3 are at least in my world a huge advantage.
Tesla fanboy here.
@@didiermejia780 Tesla developed a superior form of propulsion technology. Many other legacy auto companies are slowly recognizing this feat and hoping to catch up but fail to have the leadership, technology, and educated personnel to make such a change. RIP legacy auto…🙄🎄👌
You're comparing a civic sized compact car to an SUV
Not true update software many feature add in phone as a key app…fast charging 80 percent is li
So selling with a recall that’s not fixed how much money did you sell it for
If you do not factor in deprecation your numbers make little sense.
Straight to the point, thanks for the info.
So you collected the $7500 and now flipping it??
Waiting to hear about depreciation...
A similar Tesla would only cost time value of money, maybe not even that.
How does TCO match up?
Tremendously helpful and informative!! Thanks for saying hi to my friend and I at the Rivian event by the blue truck:)
Thank you for the review.
We thought about the Mach E and switched to researching the BNW I4 electric
Not true they update software and new features added in phone as a key app--80 percen
1/18/2022
When you say the Mach E is one of the best, you need to say which is the best and where the Mach E ranks, else your remark is meaningless.
Noted
Ev6 is ugly as sin, would go for an Ioniq 5 in that case.
are you going to let the next buyer know that this was a fleet car?
KIA EV6 GTS line or GT! Car of the year 2022!
the problem is solved so you can keep the car
The charging cliff at 80% has been addressed in a software update…
$2500 profit in nine months is less than $9.50 a day. B.F.D. I can average twice to thrice that per hand on a $5-$500 Blackjack table in roughly 100 hands. At 2 - 3 hands a minute that's around 45 minutes.
Yes, for what its worth though, we did leave out the $7500 tax credit that we should be able to take advantage of early next year.
Funny I live in MD and my self driving works even though the dealer told me it Won't because it's in testing on the Westcoast lol. I love my Mach-E no complaints so far.
Awesome you’ve got BlueCruise early! When did you buy your Mach-E?
@@KLWTTS last month. Random lol just went to test drive see what the hype was about EV cars and I fell in love plus saving $200 a week in gas I drive 68 miles to work and back. Sat working out numbers for 5 hours and got a hell of a deal. I didn't know about all thr rebates and tax credits. RWD California route 1 extended battery. Model I wanted but I wanted black or white but I got it in Red which is growing on me.
Get another Y
I'm sorry, why do I need an app to tell me my car is locked?
I have the same car. AutoNation offered me $56,444. I only have 500 miles on it currently. I may take it and wait for my GT that's coming next year.
Have you seen the video where family Skoda wagon diesel 180hp destroy this Mustang GT on the autobahn in Germany 😆
ua-cam.com/video/GHgLrg9ee98/v-deo.html
Fusion hood. They must have had some left over
Don't have any problems with charging. You usually stop to charge every 100-150 miles, because that's the typical distance between chargers on interstate. Taking into account that charging in ALL cars is faster when the battery COC is lower, overall you save time charging more often, not even mentioning the effect on the longevity of the battery. Unless the battery capacity increased to 800 miles, which would allow a whole day of driving w/o charging, all those charging quirks make no real life difference.
Great video ! Отличный видео
Thank you!
The biggest weakness of Tesla's are indeed their internal creaks/rattles. That's my only major complaint about my 2021 Model 3 Performance. I have installed several foam pieces in several pieces to help, but it's a shame to have to do all this on a new $60k car. Otherwise, Teslas are just amazing!
Sadly agreed...
buy the Audi Etron. I have had two and love them
Sub 5 minute video, how rare
ID.4 AWD time
I suspect OTA updates in Detroit-brand autos are limited so that they can appease their dealer network. Otherwise the rate of dealership closings would increase even faster as EV's become the norm. At least in the shop they have a small chance of also selling tires and wiper blades.
The dealers are a lead chain around Ford's neck, I'm sure Ford wants to sell directly to customers in the future, and get rid of the middle man
Man, those are some first world problems 😂
I cannot believe you admitted you leave your charge port door open and it dented the car. Geez.
Honesty is key! 😅 all of our Teslas ports close themselves and it’s not just us, our renters have done it too
@@KLWTTS illustrates an important point when it comes to vehicles. If we become to dependent on technology, it could be a risk when it breaks. The cameras and sensors for blind spot come to mind. Particularly if you live in a nasty climate.
I was waiting for the mustang to show up
You avoided major depreciation
I was considering the Mach E but decided to go with Tesla for 2 reasons: 1-the dealership added "fees" resulted in a total of $5,000 over the price quoted by Fords website, 2-I heard about the Mach E charging 80% issue. I decided on Tesla and recently received my Tesla model 3 one week before Christmas. My thought is that auto makers are so new in making EV's that they may have issues that Tesla does not have or already has resoled. Tesla has already done the R&D and has years of experience... plus my model 3 is far more than just "miles per charge", it does things (via the built-in calibration equipment), that no other vehicle can currently do!
#1 -- there are plenty of dealerships that don't have markup, #2 - 80% is not an issue.
I'm sure it was sold for a huge profit. After all it's an EV.
Shift pick up was scheduled for Tuesday but with our Tesla Model S ready for pick up, we may change course last minute to accept a better offer
Ioniq 5, or if you can buy the spot from an R1S preorder holder
Fortunately we have a Rivian order of our own but the Ioniq 5 is looking pretty tempting!
This is great Ryan!
Thanks Kevin!
lol FORD! muahahaha never buy
Thanks for the review and why your selling.
Go for the skoda if you can get it .
Why don’t you just buy a Tesla?
Get an Ioniq 5 (or Kia version) or Nissan Ariya.
Two surprisingly great cars