"Stop! Don't kill him! If you do, you'll be just as bad as him!" "But...he killed our friends for fun..." "And if you kill one person, you're exactly as bad as someone who has killed 20! Now stand back and lets watch as animals eat him alive, morally and justly!"
@@SatanLiterally No, it came from Chris Stuckmann who made a cringy rewrite of the confrontation, between Batman and Superman before their big fight in BvS. And it included the line "Tell that to Zod's snapped neck"
@@MediumRareOpinions wow, rude. You can’t wiggle burning hot blades in people! What, you think just because you see it with NON-BURNING HOT BLADES, that we can do it with a lightsaber? You savage brute. /s
The sad truth is, that this is exactly what I thought when I saw it. Probably the coolest scene was Smilo killing Jecki for no other reason than the fact, that I didn't think they would have the guts to kill that character... and then I saw him stab her three times and I was like "He must have watched Sabine survive getting stabbed by a lightsaber"..
"The Jedi won't leave me alone to use the force the way I want, so I will actively antagonize them and reveal myself to them to ensure they won't ever leave me alone" Genius
@@XraynPR Unironically I can envision Disney Jedi *actually* being more concerned (ie - extraordinary measures and violence) with a Dark Sider being a Dark Sider than say a blood thirsty warlord with plans for galactic conquest.
I think this moment is the single thing in the show that's any good. Yes, the Jedi do conscript infants and children to become warrior monks. However, in a sensible world, Padawans don't get sent on potentionally dangerous missions. They do busy work and train train train until they graduate to Knighthood or some similar rank, at which point they should get sent on peacekeeping missions at most. Investigating what might be a rising Dark Force threat, closely linked to an "assassin" who has *successfully* murdered *several* *Jedi* *MASTERS* is NOT a peacekeeping mission.
That line almost felt like one writer taking a shot at another lol. How can a master like Sol say something so stupid? If you weren't allowed to kill children in battle, then why not fight wars with children? Maybe that's what the sith is doing wrong. They should just have an army of child warriors, the jedi would be helpless.
@@reignman30 You know you do have a point, that would make the sith unstoppable. Evidently kids in the middle of training last ~20x longer than seasoned Knights in 1v1s too. If you take Kenobi into account, they're better at running as well, so really you could have an army that is untouchable, unbeatable AND unstoppable. Honestly, why haven't there been child armies in Star Wars before now? Hey, maybe they were trying to simulate this power with the clones, since they were actually only something like 4-10 years old when they got deployed as fresh privates?
Every death here is a result of Osha deliberately letting her murderous sister escape in Ep2. However, she isn't alone. Stupidity is helping. Jecki is responsible for leading to her own death by shooting down Yord's confrontational plan and instead proposing that dumb disguise plan in Ep2. Sol is also responsible for agreeing with Jecki's dumb plan and then letting potion-Sith escape with a slap on the wrist, despite having assisted in killing a Jedi Master (not to mention the previous apothecary disappearing under mysterious circumstances from a guy dealing in poisons). Considering Yord's plans usually mean a more aggressive confrontation with the target and mind-reading, if they'd gone with his plan, they might all still be alive. Including the Wookie Jedi. So Yord and the unnamed Jedi are probably the only real victims in these series of events since Ep2. Victim, but Yord is still an idiot. But everyone is a colossal idiot in this show. Everyone dying landed with a dull thud. Just like their lifeless bodies. Honestly, I care about everyone dying as much as Sol apparently did. Hardly a wrinkle in his mood. He just got up and strolled out. Didn't even check for life from anyone and just dipped out. He didn't even accomplish the mission to see what happened to Kelnacca.
At the risk of having my comment scrubbed by UA-cam, I'd like to point out that Mae looks like the type of person to resist arrest even when her intention is to literally turn herself in.
@@MirandaSinistra If we're going for the Jedi killed the maaany thing then the excuse will probably be that like many whistle blowers they randomly developed last minute acute depression forced choked and sliced and diced themselves.
>kills pretty much every named character present with silly joker helmet >is deaf to industry plant girl literally announcing she'll do the thing and her subsequent running at him to do thing >gets jumped by moths, loses "This script... it's... it's BEAUTIFUL!" Dave Felatio
Yunnoh, Palpatine was an idiot in the prequels. He should’ve just said “Master Windu, I am unarmed! A Jedi would never attack someone unarmed!” Man, that example of killing Yord is the perfect example of why such a rule NEVER existed and if it did, would never be applied in such a way. If someone has demonstrated they are a threat to the extent that they have killed someone, weapon or not you do whatever to detain/neutralise them. Going forward, any deaths are in part, Sol’s fault. Just like every death here was partially Osha’s fault for letting Mae go.
To be fair, they are already Sol's fault for not detaining the guy who admitted to making a poison intended to kill a Jedi. And probably killed the original apothecary to take his place. If they're trying to paint the Jedi as power-abusing evilmen, they sure are inept at abusing that power for anything important.
@@tomjames9681 I can see it applied to non force users but come on discount Ezra Miller was clearly a threat and having the force means he's always armed.
In the EU it's established that one of the most extreme measures Jedi take is cut off the hands explicitly because it stops them from being effective duelists and even their ability to channel force powers. This is why Anakin doesn't hesitate for a second to "disarm" Dooku, but hesitates to kill him once he's ACTUALLY unarmed. Sol should know that a Sith isn't unarmed just by losing a lightsaber. He isn't even truly unarmed without hands, like Dooku was, but at that point, you MIGHT try to subdue him. The fact that Sol backed off at all is just Disney writing, let alone backing off when he still had full control of the force.
I mean you can even acknowledge summary execution as a moral evil but still *totally* understand why someone would do it in the heat of the moment. I think it would set a bad precedent if the Jedi just went around murdering disarmed prisoners- Anakin executing Dooku in Revenge is very clearly presented as a step in the wrong direction. This is all from a strictly "clinical" standard of ethics, though. On an emotional level, I lose respect for Sol sparing him after watching this guy slaughter all of his friends. It makes me feel like he can't have cared about them very much if he's willing to even risk the chance of Smilo going on to do something like this again.
This episode really destroyed Sol, huh? Just doinking around while his friends get killed, leaving their bodies to rot in the Jungle, leaving Ezra Miller alive, not sensing something is off about "Osha"... What a loser.
If only Master Tobin had awakened just for a few minutes during his 10-year sleep to teach a jedi how to use the force shield. Many lives could have been saved. SMH!!
Well to be fair, the force has been used to stop large space craft from taking off, but I'm wondering how they're going to get a fat jedi to run around performing fast agile moves. Plus he's going to be such a large target for blasts and lightsaber strikes.
Mae's motivations keep flip-flopping back and forth. She said that she's giving up on her revenge and that her loyalty's to her sister, last episode; but in this episode, she knocked out her sister, left her unprotected in the forest, and presumably is going to take her revenge on Sol. Also, if she wasn't responsible for the deaths of the other witches, she did a terrible job in clarifying that to Osha
"I'm gonna get revenge for my sister and family" "my sister is alive. I'll give up revenge and turn myself in to get her back." "I don't want the jedi to take me"? "I want to run away with my sister whom I tried to kill for not wanting to be with me 16 years ago" "I'm going to leave my sister in the middle of a deadly forest because she does not want to come with me. revenge mode on"
I think her motivation now is to "de-brainwash" her sister and she's infiltrating the Jedi to do it. Good thing Jedi can't sense emotions or anything, or her plan would never work.
Ballpark guess; osha gonna do Yandere shizz to jedi, may gonna :nooo 😢yu control my choices like dem! Learn some mutual "family good" and try some "we're best balancing" cause sisters, while most of us just see a codependent Yandere holding her sister hostage.
They really should have introduced the cortosis earlier in the series. Have Mae use a cortosis knife to kill Trinity. It would be the thing that gave Mae the opening to kill Trinity. That way the cortosis could be introduced during the investigation and when Smilo Ren shows up in cortosis armor we know what it is and that it's a big deal.
Especially since they decanonized the old EU. I'm relying on 20+ years old knowledge to recognize that, and I don't know if Disney ever re-introduced it before now. It's such an arbitrary thing to have show up in this era when it never showed up later in any other live action story.
Cortosis should never have been introduced at all. It was stupid in the Legends and it's still stupid now. It completely ruins lightsabers and makes the Jedi and Sith look like low IQ dummies. Why haven't the Jedi and Sith made Cortosis woven suits for protection? Why would you even make and wield a lightsaber when it can be nerfed by your enemy in combat and leave you defenceless? They should have retconned it from canon long ago, and even if they haven't no self respecting writer would use such ridiculous mumbo jumbo in their story that creates so many plot holes.
I still think that an EFAP Movies arc of all the main Star Wars films would be fantastic. Similar to the LOTR reactions they can gush over their favourite parts and analyse in real time as the movies evolve through the prequels and Disney era. Plus, who doesn't want to see "EFAP reacts to TLJ"? It'd be a monumental event to see how that recording session goes.
Id honestly rather they stick to the 6 films. Those movies dont exist, and we have already heard them DISCUSS in great detail on whats wrong with them. I'd be much more interested in them discussing the good the series once stood for and even meriting the prequels in the ways that they deserve while revealing their flaws (which their are certainly many). Im tired of Disney Star Wars. I only care to express pride in what's good. Analyze it, critique it, celebrate it, and be hopefully inspired by it. Constantly watching Disney Star Wars can sometimes give a bleak sensation of what can be achieved in filmmaking. It's just as good to take a break from it and cultivate the best examples of what we have to offer while being hopeful for its vision of future films.
@@stormcutter59I don't think they could possibly have a full cast of 7 of them and get through tlj. Like they would actually need to be locked in a room for 72 hours to get through it.
See, Squid Game couldn't save padawan girl and yellow lightsaber because he ran out of Force Points, and at the rate it was regenerating, he couldn't afford any of his powers.
Smilo Ren collected so many loot crates. Guy had the anti lightsaber armor. They need to nerf that shit when the next patch comes out. Hate pay to win Star Wars
Hilariously, I remember Force Points being an actual Thing in West End Games’ D-6 Star Wars RPG ! You could use them to Double a particular roll / skill check, during an adventure / session. So instead of rolling your 8D Lightsaber Skill to block or make an attack attempt, you’d (for that one action) roll 16 D6 !! (Just brought me back to my youth, for a moment, when you mentioned that 😅)
The fact that Darth Tenebrous and Darth Plagueis didn't sense such a powerful dark side force user just cutting about with a red lightsaber getting their apprentice to target JEDI MASTERS is absolutely laughable 😂
Oh I'm sure they would appreciate the Jedi going on high alert and gaining even more political power and totally leave this edge lord alone. But seriously, the problem with starwars outside of the EU is that power levels are underwhelming until the plot says otherwise. So it's not that those characters wouldn't do something about the problem, it's that they are too weak to sense shit and too incompetent to have proper information networks.
Watch as Smilo Ren is Plagueis and they just get the Wookiepedia mods to work overtime to try and gaslight the fans about him being human and not a Muun
Current running theory is this is Darth Venamis, the other apprentice to Tenebrous whom was gone by the time Plagueis was the apprentice. My bet is that by the end of the series, Qimir will be killed by Tenebrous for failing him, or Plagueis to prove himself to Tenebrous
@@dualwieldroxas358 Darth Venamis was a Bith not a human. It could be the case that they race swapped him but I doubt they would use any already established characters. People like those characters too much so I couldn't see them bringing into this story. Hopefully they don't tie their name to this trash heap.
Ah. Cortosis. That lightsaber-resistant material that was never even mentioned in the show, much less given an explanation, and then made it instrumental in the fight scene. Great. If only we had a character challenged to defeat Jedi without a weapon who could have been exploring options to level the playing field while adhering to the letter of the rule. That sure would have been a great way to organically establish cortosis in the show before it was sprung on us. Maybe it could have happened during an existing conversation in, say, an apothecary shop, or while walking in the woods, when a character was already clearly spitballing possible ways to kill a Jedi while weaponless. But who could _possibly_ have such a niche goal to fill that role?
@@ArphemiusWe have a word for stuff that comes out of nowhere that solves the problem of the writer wanting their payoff but didn't want to do a redraft to tease it or hint at its existence earlier: Deus Ex Machina.
@@Lalle524 Correct, we have a word for stuff like that. This isn't that. This is the first time you see this guy fight, he isn't pulling this out of nowhere. This is introduced as part of his arsenal. If Mei had used Cortosis, as OP says, that would then have been the first time it was used. It has to be used for the first time at some point, you can't just push it back and call it a day. I mean, that's how literally anything works. You could have them state that Cortosis is a thing, but that would not at all somehow be better than having a character use it to introduce it.
Osha, Ep4: I feel really, really bad about my actions accidentally leading to the death of that bug monster. Osha, Ep5: Let's set a bunch of bug monsters on a Sith who will hack them to pieces with his lightsaber rather than me just escaping with Yord as Sol wanted, or work with Sol & Yord to kill SmilORen.
The thing that particularly sticks in my throat, amongst all the other BS, is how Sol just leaves his Jedi dead (and lightsabers) to rot and be fed on by jungle carrion.... even his 'child' apprentice, What the F*@k!
Well, I will defend him; they are apparently a few hours walk into a dense forest, and there are like 6 bodies to take care of. They can't carry them all out--best to get back to the ship and radio back to base so another ship can teleport there in 5 minutes with a proper crew to go in and get all the bodies.
@@billjacobs521 😂 Yeah, exactly the ship will take less time to fly/teleport all the way from a morgue planet than Sol to walk back to his ship. Unless he remembers that he also can teleport.
The films themselves prove the logic of this series wrong. When the Sith finally do reveal themselves, not a single person or entity blames the Jedi. The Jedi are instantly made Generals of a galactic army to combat them directly with more power than they've ever had in history lol
Except only the Jedi really know about the Sith revealing themselves. The rest of the galaxy is mobilizing against the CIS, which at that point, no one knew was connected to the Sith at all.
@@billjacobs521 It...kinda sounds like you're agreeing with me and disagreeing with me at the same time. I have no idea what you're trying to say dude 😂
They were kinda thrust into the role at the Battle of Geonosis and then leaned into it. I wish we got more evidence of them refusing to let that power and control go, which might further expose the hypocrisy of the Jedi. Ah well
@@Ki_Adi_Mundi So the galaxy is going to hear about this one random dude in a forest, but don't know about the LEADERS OF THE OPPOSING CIVIL WAR FACTION? Yeah fucking right. Try again.
I want to point out that it's incredibly dumb that the Jedi (looking at you Ki Adi Mundi) didn't know about this incident during the prequels but even more unbelievable was that Darth Tenebrous and Darth Plagueis didn't sense the presence of such a powerful dark side force user.
The lightsaber-shorting ore was specifically introduced twenty years ago in a book called "I, Jedi" as armor, but it gets dumber: the writer said that Palpatine armored his throne rooms and bedchambers with it. There's so much of it available to the rich and powerful that you can coat entire rooms with it.
But who would actually use it besides people scared of the Jedi/Sith? Kind of a special use case for armor. I don’t see this is an actual problem for EU lore.
@@azaryahwilson1826 I do. Palpatine armored entire rooms with it but not himself or Vader? It's completely absurd. Even if Palpatine didn't, the Jedi serving the old Republic, the dark jedi serving the Sith Empire, or even the Mandelorians would have ample reason to create phrik/cortosis armor. Why don't they?
What does Asian Ezra Miller want? He wants to be a force user without rules so he has to kill the Jedi, but even if killed all the Jedi, what does he want to do with his powers? Start a criminal empire? Run a shop? WTF does he want beyond the show?
The Jedi were clearly willing to let him go, given that they specifically let him go once before. He's not being actively hunted until dead jedi start turning up, and even then they're like, "Meh, you're just an accomplice, we'll let you off with a warning this time."
I guess since he considers himself as a "sith" he wants to control the galaxy or something. But then again he isn't a true sith, as in, he isn't one of the two that carries on Darth Banes legacy and goals, so who fucking knows.
"No don't kill Smilo Ren, my master who told me to go around killing jedi, which I did!" "Don't kill him, even though he just recently killed several jedis and your young apprentice, I can fix him!" What the hell is this nonsensical writing?
anyone else remember that yoda could distinguish literal clones in the force. now you cant tell the difference between twins with vastly different emotions
Please, whoever is editing these, please add the Leslie Nielson Police Squad / Naked Gun thrown pillow scene when the cloak was thrown on Sole. It is perfect where Leslie is thrown a pillow and then grabs and holds it on his own face - it is _perfect_ I swear.
People getting tricked into thinking this is a good episode just because of the fight scenes is truly aggravating. Acknowledging that the action is good is one thing, but to act like this somehow redeems the horrendous writing is another.
The Shlurpolite, episode 5: The true mastermind reveals himself to be... Poggle the Lesser from the Prequels because I am running out of characters at this point. Poggle says "I am the Bug People" and then does a bag flip and fights all the Jedi, slaying many whilst the Techno Union provide the soundtrack. Meanwhile Bad Shlurpo has had an interesting character journey. She was loyal to Shlurpo, but tried to kill Good Shlurpo when she was a child, then wants revenge on the Jedi for killing Good Shlurpo, she takes out Jedi's then gets bored and says she wants to be a good Shlurpo. However, she finds out Jedi Master Porkins has died of diabeetes, so she decides to impersonate her sister Good Shlurpo to get closer to Jedi Master Ho Lee Fuk and kill him. She wears clown shoes, puts her hat at a jaunty angle and waves her flashlight back and forth just like Good Shlurpo. Hopefully they won't notice any difference despite the fact Bad Shlurpo has a tattoo that says "I am evil" written on her face. Tune in next week for whatever is next.
This is a masterpiece. So much nuance, such suspense, very media literacy, hella truth to form. It leaves one wondering at every turn; "Which Shlurpo is really Good Shlurpo?" "The tattoo -- 'I am evil' -- what does it mean?" "What exactly is a bag flip? Is it just a typo, or is it a _locust of the human experience_ ??"
In case there was any confusion on why Jecki and Osha had random heart to heart conversations in Episode 4, a certain death in this episode explains why.
I don’t know what cringe awaits us in this episode, but regarding the “splinter order” that keeps rumored around. The Expanded universe explained that the origins of the sith that they were Jedi who tried to take the order into the Gray area between light and dark and because of that they were expelled. Upon their expelling, they came across a planet called korraban that is inhabited by a species that woreships the dark side. They eventually befriended those aliens and together they created a new order, the sith order, so the sith ARE already a *SPLINTER ORDER FROM THE JEDI!!!!*
Yes, one the Jedi believe to be extinct. They believe that this is a new splinter order, unrelated to the Sith (at least the council does. Obviously Sol, Mae, Osha, and Bazil know the truth after this episode but we'll see what happens with that)
@@mr.starwars8863they still need to find a logical explanation why a Jedi order wouldn't care, if all of a sudden 10 of its members were slaughtered... Like... There is not that many Things besides Sith/Dark Jedi that are able to achieve that no?
I wouldn't exactly say "befriended". Didn't the Exiles basically make themselves the rulers of Korriban? The Sith as a species knew a lot about the Dark Side of the Force but they were relatively primitive.
@@mr.starwars8863 To be fair the Darkside almost automatically makes you space hitler or even worse, so any unknown splinter order would potentially be insanely dangerous. Old Sheev was pretty chill, all he did was committee a few genocides, while other darkside users turn into fucking demi-elder gods that snack on planets like they are freshly backed pizza slices.
Sol could've totally killed that guy instead of sparing his life and the series would have been over. We could have like two beach episodes after this!
I feel like the old rule was that it requires an exponentially higher use of force to attack another force user than it costs them to defend. So unless you were much, much more powerful than your opponent it wasn’t worth it
The telekinetic Force requires concentration to use practically, meaning that focus blocks out all situational awareness in the process since pushing 100 to 200 lbs is a lot more difficult than a 1 oz apple. And since it's like an invisible hand, it logically follows that another Force user can block it.
Always my favorite, she's the least experienced, but somehow lasts the longest in a one on one. I'd buy it if there was some establishment that Qimir was toying with her, but she actually has him on the ropes... Jecki can't be force pulled around though
Dunno if anyone has pointed it out, but Dafne Keen (Jecki) is credited for all the remaining episodes. So she might still be alive lol. Yord and others are not.
I swear to Yaddle, this was written my AI. The dialogue is 100% AI written. The vague nonsense, the forgetting what just happened, all of it. They used a last generation chatbot app to write this show.
Probably so they have no qualms about killing him off in the end without some great self sacrifice or that "he's just misunderstood" and try to reform him.
GUYS! SMILE-O REN IS QIMIR! I clapped because I know who that is! And his helmet was made of some cool metal that shorts out lightsabers! I clapped because it was so cool! I clapped for Star Wars!
My prediction for the "the sith have been extinct for a millenia" Sol reports to the Jedi that all his team except for "Osha" is dead. The jedi do some mental gymnastics along the lines of "you killed all the other witnesses of Brendok, killed the whole team and now you're saying the Sith did it? And the girl you have with you isn't even Osha. Master and apprentice - dun dun duuuuun" Basically, Sol gets framed for the whole thing and the jedi go "case closed"
Disney: has Ahsoka fighting zombies instead of giving Thrawn's armies cortosis armor, as Thrawn is canonically aware of its power. Also Disney: gives cortosis to a random sith who uses it on precisely two pieces of armor. Also how does he carry his helmet around with him?
Disney Star Wars unintentionally delivered one of the most based character lines in the franchise when Qimir called Jecki "it". Guy clearly doesn't care about pronouns😂
‘It’ IS a pronoun. You guys really are extraordinarily stupid. Tripping over your own feet in your rush to say something ‘based’, which is just a euphemism for being petty and bigoted.
Since the Darth Bane series was brought up, I believe it was stated in "Path of Destruction" that everyone puts up a barrier to resist telekinetic powers. It takes concentration to maintain it, so it could be penetrated. But since the EU was nullified, ya, there's no consistency to when telekinesis works.
Even in Revenge of the Sith, you see Anakin and Obi-Wan clearly try to Force push each other, lock in a stalemate, until they both fling backwards, clearly communicating to us that you can use the Force to resist the Force. Even this show established that in episode 3. Lazy jerks just won't stick to their own story,
If Sol would have just killed Smilo Ren in the forrest until Osha told him not to do it, the Sith would have been done and Sidious wouldn't have ruled the Galaxy as a dictator for decades. So thanks for that, Osha. The people of Alderaan are especially grateful.
The fight scene was probably the best lightsaber duel of the Disney Era, (but what is the fascination with making them at night? Seriously all of the fights are so dim across all the tv shows) and I like lightsabers being lethal again… Too bad about literally everything else. (Edit): I've seen a remarkable amount of conversation on other videos saying the moths were fine because Star Wars is goofy, the old stormtrooper head bonk argument therefore criticism invalidated argument in full force again. Besides which I think the criticism is not that the moths were used as a plot device after being set up in the previous episode but the manner in which there were used, that rather than being a desperate gamble during the low point they were instead a inefficient method of execution purely for plot armor reasons. Smylo wasn't even unarmed in any real sense given so Sol's moral dilemma was pointless.
I believe it has to do with their swapping out the prop sabers. They like using these versions which give off their own light rather than the simple metal rods that the prequels added the light too in post. To get the most out of the effect they're using dimly lit scenes but the scene being dark is doing more harm to the visuals than the prop is giving them.
I'm not even sure if it reaches that low standard. It seems intense since they actually were willing to let named characters die, but it's loaded up with pure stupid. It makes everything so arbitrary because sometimes you can just point your lightsaber at someone and use Force Pull to impale them, which creates a ton of problems. And you have characters who are just not involved in the fight, just missing in subspace for some reason. People materializing and dematerializing out of nowhere. There's no thoughts given to the actual logistics of a 7 versus 1 fight. And for some reason they just gave a Sith Man a power level over 9,000 so nobody else can do anything.
Rereading the old good EU stuff really puts into perspective how stupid Disney Star Wars is in. For context, in the Hand of Thrawn duology(SPOILER ALERT) there's a bit where Luke investigates a group of pirates and is ultimately captured. How he's captured is smart where the pirates lure him into a gravity chamber and separate him from his lightsaber. The pirates explained they had it built in case they ran into Jedi(note, the New Jedi order was just starting up and it's like 15 years after the OT) and they even accounted for Luke's force pull to his saber by positioning it in a way where he can't pull it or cut it free. So how does Luke escape? Well, he uses some battery packs of ammo which he levitates via the force(the cage he's in has bars but they aren't very big), floats to his saber and uses his saber to trigger an explosion which frees his saber and he can pull it and cut him free. This works because earlier, he's found out and he drops his blaster and when asked about his ammo packs, the pirates assume he won't be able to do anything with them. Now, I can see EFAP and members having issues with say the new Force powers within the old EU or even this setup possibly, but you can't tell me this entire thing I described is in the same league as this crap from the Acolyte? One that clearly had a lot of thought put in and showcased how resourceful Luke was as a character vs flashy lightsaber moves with characters barely doing anything?
Indeed, and I for one absolutely despise Timothy Zahn's handling of the force, almost as much as he himself hates that the force exists. He still does way better than modern writers who create a show specifically about jedi.
@@Arphemius Yeah, it is fair to go after Zahn with the use of the Force and even the EU with it continually introducing new Force powers. But at least, he utilizes them creatively and doesn't conveniently forget about them. I wouldn't even care about the new powers if they were used well and had creative limits. Force healing in TROS is infuriating because if that power existed why didn't Anakin develop it? It would have helped him. Whereas Star Wars Legacy with Cade Skywalker, they treat the ability appropriately in that it's a very rare power, Krayt wants the power for his own issues, and also there's a weakness where using it brings Cade closer to the dark side and thus he has his master disapprove of that given Jedi teachings.
@@Avarn388 You misunderstand. New force powers? I wasn't even aware he introduced any. Zahn's problem is the opposite, that he doesn't want to really engage with the force, so he negates it as much as he can, except when he can use it as a plot device by giving people visions. He does his very best to diminish the presence of the force in his stories at every point. At one point in Hand of Thrawn I think it was, Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade, two exceptionally powerful force users, need several chapters to defeat a single droideka. He weakens them by that much. Zahn outright writes, through Luke, that using force powers diminishes the ability to hear the force guide you - meaning, Zahn actively has him not use it so that Zahn has an excuse to use it as a plot device. Even though he's good at a lot of aspects, I despise how he handles the force. I agree with healing though. It's fine to be a technique, a particular power, but like everything else, it should be something you need to train to use. It can't just be something instinctive. And as you said if the effect is so exaggerated that it can bring people back from the dead basically, then Vader could very well have healed his burn scars and gotten rid of the suit.
Imagine, just imagine you've written your protagonist to care so little about her friends that even seeing them get killed in front of her doesn't elicit a response. Darth Gains here just murdered your friend with his bare hands, I really don't think he counts as "unarmed". Also, the thought that a cortosis throwing knife and a blaster could literally double tap any Jedi (that didn't already know what was coming) is kinda hilarious, just throw the knife at them, watch them block it like Trinity did, short out their lightsaber and then shoot them with your blaster, easy.
The show not allowing sol to kill ezra miller because "he has no weapon" has the same energy as walker being labeled evil because he killed an unarmed supersoldier who was involved in multiple murders.
It's worse than budget, she said they cut the Wookie fight because it broke the POV of the show. The POV is, oh my goodness who killed the Wookie, and then they reveal it five seconds later anyway!!! Just show the Wookie fight ffs!
You could easily have Osha wander off, led by a Force vision again, to find Kalnaka, and witness the fight. Maybe she even gets caught in a trap (instead of Smilo) and has to watch.
Star Wars Legends Cortosis ore was a very rare, brittle, fibrous material, the conductive properties of which would cause lightsabers to temporarily short out upon contact. This effect made cortosis a useful material for anti-lightsaber melee weapons, though with repeated strikes, a lightsaber could still cut through it. Cortosis, due to its energy resistant properties, was also resistant to blaster fire. Cortosis ore was used extensively in shadowtrooper armor, as well as the C-B3 cortosis battle droids during the Clone Wars, and the Force-using group known as the Jensaarai. The cortosis used for this armor was smuggled out from Bespin's Cloud City. The walls of the Imperial Palace were also lined with cortosis ore. It was also used to strengthen starfighter and capital ship hulls, and was woven into body armor. Cortosis was expensive to mine because it was so rare and it had to be absolutely refined. Pure, unrefined, cortosis ore was for unexplained reasons, energized, killing anyone who touched it with their bare skin, even Hutts, who had energy-resistant enzymes in their sweat. Miners had to have filtering equipment, or else the cortosis particles would accumulate in their systems, causing hair loss, sickness, and eventually death. The substance was energy-resistant, meaning energy tools (such as plasma torches) were virtually useless. The brute force of hydraulic jacks were used to mine it, though it quickly wore the head of the jack to uselessness and its dust would clog the pistons. Pockets of highly-combustible lethane gas often formed near cortosis deposits.
@@frawDgnicnaD I could believe that Palpatine wouldn't permit his apprentice to have it, as it might enable Vader to eventually kill the Emperor. Another question; if Bespin produces this super-rare and amazing material, why are they allowed to remain independent of the direct Imperial control?
@@frawDgnicnaD Yeah, it literally was. Why do you assume it wasn't? And if you mean why wasn't it made from pure Cortosis that would shut off a lightsaber, it's because it's extremely brittle and not suitable for armor. Cortosis weave or alloy, which is stronger, is energy resistant but won't shut off a lightsaber.
I will admit, I like Smilo more than I thought I would. That is because the actor is actually really good. I didn't see that coming. It sucks he's stuck in a crappy show. I like edgelord characters like him and Edgy the Hedgy.
@rice.flakes Ya. That's why I'll give it a D instead of an F. He's a good actor that moves really well in the fight. He's also ripped af. It's funny going from his scenes to the "twins" scenes where the lead "actress " only has one face....blank with wide eyes
I'm afraid they're going to do something even worse with the flashback now. I think when Mae says Osha was brainwashed, they're going to make that literally true, and the stuff we saw with Mae starting a fire never even happened. It's not just that Osha didn't see what happened, it's that the Jedi Force-manipulated her memories, and it was Mae trying to save Osha from the Jedi or something like that. They might even do the thing where the whole time, it was MAE who wanted to join the Jedi as a kid, and Osha didn't trust them, but then the Jedi basically kidnapped her and brainwashed her into remembering everything differently.
He is willing to Kill Osha in this episode..but doesn't just gut her like a Fish in the end of the last episode. "You can't kill Jedi with a Lightsaber.." *kills like 5 Jedi with a Lightsaber in this episode* Sol's stock plummeted in this episode, He allowed a Sith Lord to go free in episode 2, every single death that occurs as a result of Qimir not getting arrested in Episode 2 is directly Sol's fault. Sol is the worst Jedi in the history of Jedi.
Oh you sweet summer children. X23 is going to survive. She was stabbed in three deliberately non-lethal spots. Light sabers don't kill people unless both stomachs, all five lungs, or all fifteen hearts are pierced.
Quite the contrary Mauler, there is canonically a material called frik that can block lightsabers. It’s used by General Grievous Magna Guard Droid’s electro staffs
You guys actually make this series fun. Kudos - not just for the super intelligent commentary, but the clever visual editing that makes static avatars feel like animated characters. 👏
Y'know what kinda show I'd like to see if competently written? A Star Wars show following a Sith protagonist, who is actually of the ancient Sith race, in an almost Cobra Kai style setup, he's a master of the dark side living in the modern world, Jedi are the majority faction and the Empire is long gone, saves a youth from Cartel gangsters, loan sharks, kidnappers etc. Then have that sith go on a very personal journey where, like Cobra Kai, you see the positive influence that the Sith Code can bring in moderation, but when you delve deeper into the extremes then you risk falling to corruption and it'll be up to that protagonist to choose to indulge in the power and temptations, or choose to be better than the sith masters who've come before him. Wishful thinking but hey, one can dream.
That makes no sense. The darkside corrupts. Just using it, he would become more and more corrupt. It's not about extremes. It's that you use anger and hate to use it.
@@debanydoombringer1385 More than that, even; it revels in it. It promotes passion and selfishness. As has been said before, there is no balance between light and dark in the Force; the lightside IS balance, by definition, and the dark side is always evil, by definition.
Admittedly, even I was impressed by /some/ of this episode, like the triple tap kill, or Yorg using the discarded helmet to his fleeting advantage. Heck, my ol' nerdy self appreciated the chance to finally see cortosis get some live action love, but that discussion about Phrik brought me back to reality, reminding me how absolutely daft this franchise has become. Thanks a lot, Disney.
I'm laughing at the fact that in the first shot with lightsabers through the trees, we see a bunch of Jedi lightsabers off to the left just swinging away at nothing, or even each other while smilo is way off to the right. Peak disney right there
Its kind of funny and kind of infuriating how the giant bugs don't appear when the big flashy lightsaber duel is happening, but rather when a single flashlight gets turned on. Really makes you go hmmmmm
They actually explained why Saul did nothing... they said Smilo-Ren does not follow the rules of combat; those rules are indeed turn based combat. I go, then you, then him, then back to me. But Smilo-Ren cheated by allowing the jedi knight to go, then he went again, and Sol was confused - those seven seconds of inaction was because he was trying to figure out whose turn it was. It happens on tabletop RPGS all the time hmhmhm
Man, sometimes you're just unlucky, I wish Sol had rolled higher on initiative so both his pupils didn't have to die while he was waiting for his turn.
Jacki vs Smilo was them trying to ape Kenobi vs Maul, but they had him take out several Knights before hand, so its really hard to swallow that she could stand on even footing.
They turned this guy into Darth Bane from wish. They stole everything from his fight in Rule of 2, the second book in the EU. Edit: One of the crew mentioned seeing the Sith prospective, and them fucking up, and getting spotted by the Jedi. This is literally the plot to the 2nd Bane book "Rule of 2". Smilo Ren is literally Bane from wish. Bane was attacked by symbiotic insects who's shells were saber resistant. (Smilo had the helmet). But Bane's armor had massive drawbacks that nearly killed him after his 8 v 2 fight. It's sickening how they've taken one of the best stories ever told, and completely cheapened it
that helmet and vambracer were pretty cool trick... Discount Ezra, which likely will turn out to be Darth Plagueis the Wise (who is supposed to be a muun, but is likely being retconned to be Asian) wanted to teach it so badly to his acolyte Palpatine, but ended up being killed in his sleep before he had the chance.
@@blue-vr8dd I am merely guessing and making up stuff... but then again, so do the writers of this show. Assume the dumbest things and you are not going to be disappointed :P
I like how Darth Bane has to get weird parasitic force bugs from some ancient sith temple, go through absolute and constant agony to keep them under control as to not let them kill him or take over his emotions, and has to learn how to accomplish this through the teachings of an ancient sith from a holocron (an incredibly rare and effective teaching tool), in order to have anti lightsaber armor. And despite the various benefits of having incredibly strong armor covering a large portion of his body, making him largely immune to conventional weapons, it can easily be argued that the various drawbacks of the bugs were so severe that they were instrumental to his downfall. In the land of Disney on the other hand, almost everybody and their grandam's tiny dog apparently possess armor that is immune to everything from blasters to lightsabers... This is like the writers saying "Plot armor isn't obvious enough, lets step this up a notch."
"Stop! Don't kill him! If you do, you'll be just as bad as him!"
"But...he killed our friends for fun..."
"And if you kill one person, you're exactly as bad as someone who has killed 20! Now stand back and lets watch as animals eat him alive, morally and justly!"
Batman, is that you?
(Nolan Batman, btw)
“That pit of lava looking mighty seductive, anakin.” Said Obi wan.
@@nhagan001 "dont try it"
No! Don't kill the armed evil superhuman who masterminded 3 murders and just massacred your whole squad! That's exactly what he'd want you to do!
@@Jasper_Silva you have to get your qualifications to kill “on a farm” before you’re allowed to do it.
Superman taught me that.
"Stop, don't kill him!"
Tell that to Yord's snapped neck!
Amazing
I wasn't present for the birth of that meme. I assumed it was some offhand comment someone made, not an earnest attempt to write a dramatic scene.
@@SatanLiterally Man of Steel. Well, BvS but it references Man of Steel
@@SatanLiterally No, it came from Chris Stuckmann who made a cringy rewrite of the confrontation, between Batman and Superman before their big fight in BvS. And it included the line "Tell that to Zod's snapped neck"
Ahahaha!!! 😂
Smilo knew he was in a Disney lightsaber fight, so he stabbed multiple times and decapitated just to play it safe 😂
If only Smilo had been around during the Reva and Sabine Era.
That’s a man that knows how to “double tap”.
@@nhagan001 You'd think by now they'd have figured out to just wiggle the blade as they pull it out to widen up the wound channel
Yes, this is a tiny skinny girl holding a lightsaber after all, those are notoriously hard to kill.
@@MediumRareOpinions wow, rude. You can’t wiggle burning hot blades in people!
What, you think just because you see it with NON-BURNING HOT BLADES, that we can do it with a lightsaber?
You savage brute.
/s
The sad truth is, that this is exactly what I thought when I saw it. Probably the coolest scene was Smilo killing Jecki for no other reason than the fact, that I didn't think they would have the guts to kill that character... and then I saw him stab her three times and I was like "He must have watched Sabine survive getting stabbed by a lightsaber"..
"The Jedi won't leave me alone to use the force the way I want, so I will actively antagonize them and reveal myself to them to ensure they won't ever leave me alone"
Genius
It's the Sigma Grindset, yo!
Sith Tate!
His sith name is Darth Galaxy Brain
Had seen some comment that defended it along the line of "oh, using the force freely makes him a target for the jedi."
No, I think it's the killing.
@@XraynPR
Unironically I can envision Disney Jedi *actually* being more concerned (ie - extraordinary measures and violence) with a Dark Sider being a Dark Sider than say a blood thirsty warlord with plans for galactic conquest.
@@TheMaleRei Sithma grindset
"The Jedi don't kill the defensless" My man he killed 8 people.
He's not defenseless, he could literally force choke you right now.
He could be a paraplegic quadruple amputate and still force kill you. It is 💯% never defenseless
The dude snapped Yord's neck with his bare hands plus the force he is literally too dangerous to be left alive
lmao My brother in the Force this is a serial killer!
@@JKMlivedude is VERY much defensible.
Squid Game standing there like a lemon and doing nothing is like he failed a QTE and watched as Wesker broke Sheva's neck.
Giving me "Iggy, get out of here, he's still alive!" meme vibes.
COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION
WESKER!!!
“Seven seconds. Seven seconds is all I can spare to play with you.”
@@zachrohler1047CHRIIIIIIS
So Sol decide to leaves his dead padawan’s body with the moths.
What a great mentor.
Not to mention all the lightsabres as well.
It's an honor for people to turn into the Force. Look at all the HONOR on the ground about to be eaten by bugs.
There's dead bodies on 3 planets, with no one above Sol knowing ! Not to mention 0 funerals
She's going to transform into the force, assuming the force is moth shit
Not even Disney cared about anyone in the show
Mace Windu would've chopped Smilos head off without a second thought.
Cause he's not a bitch like Sol Badman is.
Sol would too. He was character assassinated and he barely has character.
Based Windu
"Yes, Smilo deserves to die, and I hope he burns in hell!" -M. Windu
all the jedi would. This would be like if obi wan stopped blasting grievous stomach cuz he dropped his staff. Show is horrible
"She was a child!"
"You brought her here."
Sol is gonna need some bacta for that burn.
also a child armed with a weapon that can chop limbs off with a single strike xD
Sol said somethinv very stupid and Smilo Lampshaded it.
I think this moment is the single thing in the show that's any good.
Yes, the Jedi do conscript infants and children to become warrior monks.
However, in a sensible world, Padawans don't get sent on potentionally dangerous missions. They do busy work and train train train until they graduate to Knighthood or some similar rank, at which point they should get sent on peacekeeping missions at most.
Investigating what might be a rising Dark Force threat, closely linked to an "assassin" who has *successfully* murdered *several* *Jedi* *MASTERS* is NOT a peacekeeping mission.
@@swegboy0238Yord left his Padawan at home like a good Jedi.
That line almost felt like one writer taking a shot at another lol. How can a master like Sol say something so stupid? If you weren't allowed to kill children in battle, then why not fight wars with children? Maybe that's what the sith is doing wrong. They should just have an army of child warriors, the jedi would be helpless.
@@reignman30 You know you do have a point, that would make the sith unstoppable. Evidently kids in the middle of training last ~20x longer than seasoned Knights in 1v1s too.
If you take Kenobi into account, they're better at running as well, so really you could have an army that is untouchable, unbeatable AND unstoppable. Honestly, why haven't there been child armies in Star Wars before now?
Hey, maybe they were trying to simulate this power with the clones, since they were actually only something like 4-10 years old when they got deployed as fresh privates?
“Jedi do not attack the unarmed” Says Sol to the guy who just murdered his friends and padawan and knows how to use the force
Murdered his friend _bare-handed,_ mind you!
He's justifying why he isn't. Sol obviously slaughtered the witches
Indeed. For all he knows the sith could force launch a boulder or shoot lightning. He is anything but unarmed. Absolute rubbish
He could have died first if he had this same mentality back in Squid Game
Every death here is a result of Osha deliberately letting her murderous sister escape in Ep2. However, she isn't alone. Stupidity is helping. Jecki is responsible for leading to her own death by shooting down Yord's confrontational plan and instead proposing that dumb disguise plan in Ep2. Sol is also responsible for agreeing with Jecki's dumb plan and then letting potion-Sith escape with a slap on the wrist, despite having assisted in killing a Jedi Master (not to mention the previous apothecary disappearing under mysterious circumstances from a guy dealing in poisons). Considering Yord's plans usually mean a more aggressive confrontation with the target and mind-reading, if they'd gone with his plan, they might all still be alive. Including the Wookie Jedi.
So Yord and the unnamed Jedi are probably the only real victims in these series of events since Ep2. Victim, but Yord is still an idiot. But everyone is a colossal idiot in this show. Everyone dying landed with a dull thud. Just like their lifeless bodies.
Honestly, I care about everyone dying as much as Sol apparently did. Hardly a wrinkle in his mood. He just got up and strolled out. Didn't even check for life from anyone and just dipped out. He didn't even accomplish the mission to see what happened to Kelnacca.
Not true, the Jedi didn’t capture smilo in episode 2 either, they let him off with a freaking warning
@@Xxgxxaxx I said that in my post.
@@xel1673 I didn’t bother to read it all
This episode reminds me a lot of Batwoman.
@@rascoehunter3608"whatd ya bring me"
>"I'm gonna let the Jedi arrest me so I can tell them what I know."
>The Jedi attempt to arrest her
>She resists
10/10 writing
MUST CONSUME PRODUCT MUST CONSUME MUST CONSUME PRDOUCT
Well, she _is_ Black.
At the risk of having my comment scrubbed by UA-cam, I'd like to point out that Mae looks like the type of person to resist arrest even when her intention is to literally turn herself in.
@@skyhook6445oh God I’m gonna consume
@@countof3everybodyOD we are all secretly programmed Drones and must and praise every Disney SW WARS OR ELSE
Also, how did 20 Jedi die on this mission and the council never learn about it?
How did Ripoff Shrek manage to keep a Jedi massacre quiet?
Yoda would've sensed it also.
With how many episodes are left I wouldn't be surprised if Green Lesland Wife was involved in this ordeal and we've yet to get that shocking twist..
You would think at least one person would be like "Hey guys have you seen George around? I haven't seen him in 3 weeks and I am getting concerned"
@@MirandaSinistra If we're going for the Jedi killed the maaany thing then the excuse will probably be that like many whistle blowers they randomly developed last minute acute depression forced choked and sliced and diced themselves.
The council will have to learn about it and just collectively agree to cover it up, even from future jedi for some godforsaken reason
>kills pretty much every named character present with silly joker helmet
>is deaf to industry plant girl literally announcing she'll do the thing and her subsequent running at him to do thing
>gets jumped by moths, loses
"This script... it's... it's BEAUTIFUL!" Dave Felatio
Qimir got Kanged (defeated by ants).
That's Smilo Teeth to you
He actually won, this was all planned and a great victory -- (blue overweight dude)
Yunnoh, Palpatine was an idiot in the prequels.
He should’ve just said “Master Windu, I am unarmed! A Jedi would never attack someone unarmed!”
Man, that example of killing Yord is the perfect example of why such a rule NEVER existed and if it did, would never be applied in such a way. If someone has demonstrated they are a threat to the extent that they have killed someone, weapon or not you do whatever to detain/neutralise them.
Going forward, any deaths are in part, Sol’s fault. Just like every death here was partially Osha’s fault for letting Mae go.
To be fair, they are already Sol's fault for not detaining the guy who admitted to making a poison intended to kill a Jedi. And probably killed the original apothecary to take his place.
If they're trying to paint the Jedi as power-abusing evilmen, they sure are inept at abusing that power for anything important.
@@tomjames9681 I can see it applied to non force users but come on discount Ezra Miller was clearly a threat and having the force means he's always armed.
In the EU it's established that one of the most extreme measures Jedi take is cut off the hands explicitly because it stops them from being effective duelists and even their ability to channel force powers. This is why Anakin doesn't hesitate for a second to "disarm" Dooku, but hesitates to kill him once he's ACTUALLY unarmed.
Sol should know that a Sith isn't unarmed just by losing a lightsaber. He isn't even truly unarmed without hands, like Dooku was, but at that point, you MIGHT try to subdue him. The fact that Sol backed off at all is just Disney writing, let alone backing off when he still had full control of the force.
"Yunnoh"
I mean you can even acknowledge summary execution as a moral evil but still *totally* understand why someone would do it in the heat of the moment. I think it would set a bad precedent if the Jedi just went around murdering disarmed prisoners- Anakin executing Dooku in Revenge is very clearly presented as a step in the wrong direction. This is all from a strictly "clinical" standard of ethics, though. On an emotional level, I lose respect for Sol sparing him after watching this guy slaughter all of his friends. It makes me feel like he can't have cared about them very much if he's willing to even risk the chance of Smilo going on to do something like this again.
This episode really destroyed Sol, huh? Just doinking around while his friends get killed, leaving their bodies to rot in the Jungle, leaving Ezra Miller alive, not sensing something is off about "Osha"...
What a loser.
Being a worthless Jedi is Sol's only joy in life.
I like how how you phrased "leaving Ezra Miller alive" is a reputation ruiner 😂
And this is the episode people are calling "the good one."
@@TheNoonish1/10 is better than 0/10.
“Leaving Ezra Miller alive” is probably the most realistic part. Just look at how Hollywood keeps letting him go with his crimes.
If only Master Tobin had awakened just for a few minutes during his 10-year sleep to teach a jedi how to use the force shield. Many lives could have been saved. SMH!!
We all know the Fat Jedi is slowly catching up... and when he gets there.... ain't no force push/pull going to affect him!
The agreed-upon name is Chungo Fatt.
Well to be fair, the force has been used to stop large space craft from taking off, but I'm wondering how they're going to get a fat jedi to run around performing fast agile moves. Plus he's going to be such a large target for blasts and lightsaber strikes.
@@reignman30 Bro.... he ate all the Midi-chlorians!!!! He IS the FORCE!
Mae's motivations keep flip-flopping back and forth. She said that she's giving up on her revenge and that her loyalty's to her sister, last episode; but in this episode, she knocked out her sister, left her unprotected in the forest, and presumably is going to take her revenge on Sol.
Also, if she wasn't responsible for the deaths of the other witches, she did a terrible job in clarifying that to Osha
"I'm gonna get revenge for my sister and family"
"my sister is alive. I'll give up revenge and turn myself in to get her back."
"I don't want the jedi to take me"?
"I want to run away with my sister whom I tried to kill for not wanting to be with me 16 years ago"
"I'm going to leave my sister in the middle of a deadly forest because she does not want to come with me. revenge mode on"
Even Yandere have consistent character motivations.
@@dragonknightleader1 Monika is a more stable character than Mae
I think her motivation now is to "de-brainwash" her sister and she's infiltrating the Jedi to do it. Good thing Jedi can't sense emotions or anything, or her plan would never work.
Ballpark guess; osha gonna do Yandere shizz to jedi, may gonna :nooo 😢yu control my choices like dem! Learn some mutual "family good" and try some "we're best balancing" cause sisters, while most of us just see a codependent Yandere holding her sister hostage.
That whole "Phrik" discussion had me in stitches.
Maybe Babu Frik made Smilo Ren's armor.
A canister of phrick floating in space. 😂😂
Instead of I'm cuckoo for Coco puffs their mascot says I'm a freak for Phrik. Got their whole advertising campaign in mind.
They really should have introduced the cortosis earlier in the series. Have Mae use a cortosis knife to kill Trinity. It would be the thing that gave Mae the opening to kill Trinity. That way the cortosis could be introduced during the investigation and when Smilo Ren shows up in cortosis armor we know what it is and that it's a big deal.
But that requires forethought, and second drafts.
@admiralgalus9796 But you see; that would take work to setup and LF is about rule of cool without any effort in those pesky details.
Especially since they decanonized the old EU. I'm relying on 20+ years old knowledge to recognize that, and I don't know if Disney ever re-introduced it before now. It's such an arbitrary thing to have show up in this era when it never showed up later in any other live action story.
They did, actually!
In a book. In the new Thrawn series.
Something not a lot of people probably read or remember...
Cortosis should never have been introduced at all. It was stupid in the Legends and it's still stupid now. It completely ruins lightsabers and makes the Jedi and Sith look like low IQ dummies. Why haven't the Jedi and Sith made Cortosis woven suits for protection? Why would you even make and wield a lightsaber when it can be nerfed by your enemy in combat and leave you defenceless? They should have retconned it from canon long ago, and even if they haven't no self respecting writer would use such ridiculous mumbo jumbo in their story that creates so many plot holes.
42:26 Now we need a scene of Senator Organa Sr. in a Frick-lined refrigerator surviving the destruction of Alderaan...
Of course. If Indiana can survive a nuke surely Senator Organa can survive a planet explosion, because this is just a silly series for kids!
“The Jedi do not attack the unarmed”
SIMLO HAS THE FORCE.
HE HAS KILLED WITH IT.
And he broke Yord's neck with his bare hands. The man is a living weapon.
I still think that an EFAP Movies arc of all the main Star Wars films would be fantastic. Similar to the LOTR reactions they can gush over their favourite parts and analyse in real time as the movies evolve through the prequels and Disney era. Plus, who doesn't want to see "EFAP reacts to TLJ"? It'd be a monumental event to see how that recording session goes.
Id honestly rather they stick to the 6 films. Those movies dont exist, and we have already heard them DISCUSS in great detail on whats wrong with them. I'd be much more interested in them discussing the good the series once stood for and even meriting the prequels in the ways that they deserve while revealing their flaws (which their are certainly many). Im tired of Disney Star Wars. I only care to express pride in what's good. Analyze it, critique it, celebrate it, and be hopefully inspired by it.
Constantly watching Disney Star Wars can sometimes give a bleak sensation of what can be achieved in filmmaking. It's just as good to take a break from it and cultivate the best examples of what we have to offer while being hopeful for its vision of future films.
I want them to do Spaceballs.
Man making them watch the sequel trilogy? Is that your idea of fun? Then after that you'd like them to be waterboarded or something? lol
They'd have to bring barf bags
@@stormcutter59I don't think they could possibly have a full cast of 7 of them and get through tlj. Like they would actually need to be locked in a room for 72 hours to get through it.
See, Squid Game couldn't save padawan girl and yellow lightsaber because he ran out of Force Points, and at the rate it was regenerating, he couldn't afford any of his powers.
Smilo Ren collected so many loot crates. Guy had the anti lightsaber armor. They need to nerf that shit when the next patch comes out. Hate pay to win Star Wars
Hilariously, I remember Force Points being an actual Thing in West End Games’ D-6 Star Wars RPG ! You could use them to Double a particular roll / skill check, during an adventure / session.
So instead of rolling your 8D Lightsaber Skill to block or make an attack attempt, you’d (for that one action) roll 16 D6 !!
(Just brought me back to my youth, for a moment, when you mentioned that 😅)
He ran out of stamina and had to wait till the bar went back up.
Yord would be alive is Sol remembered that you can use restoritive items without cooldown if you use them in the menu.
Oh god, so he was panic rolling off screen?
The fact that Darth Tenebrous and Darth Plagueis didn't sense such a powerful dark side force user just cutting about with a red lightsaber getting their apprentice to target JEDI MASTERS is absolutely laughable 😂
Oh I'm sure they would appreciate the Jedi going on high alert and gaining even more political power and totally leave this edge lord alone.
But seriously, the problem with starwars outside of the EU is that power levels are underwhelming until the plot says otherwise. So it's not that those characters wouldn't do something about the problem, it's that they are too weak to sense shit and too incompetent to have proper information networks.
Watch as Smilo Ren is Plagueis and they just get the Wookiepedia mods to work overtime to try and gaslight the fans about him being human and not a Muun
@@CrossBreedTacoHD Yeah you're not wrong.
Current running theory is this is Darth Venamis, the other apprentice to Tenebrous whom was gone by the time Plagueis was the apprentice.
My bet is that by the end of the series, Qimir will be killed by Tenebrous for failing him, or Plagueis to prove himself to Tenebrous
@@dualwieldroxas358 Darth Venamis was a Bith not a human. It could be the case that they race swapped him but I doubt they would use any already established characters. People like those characters too much so I couldn't see them bringing into this story.
Hopefully they don't tie their name to this trash heap.
Ah. Cortosis. That lightsaber-resistant material that was never even mentioned in the show, much less given an explanation, and then made it instrumental in the fight scene. Great.
If only we had a character challenged to defeat Jedi without a weapon who could have been exploring options to level the playing field while adhering to the letter of the rule. That sure would have been a great way to organically establish cortosis in the show before it was sprung on us. Maybe it could have happened during an existing conversation in, say, an apothecary shop, or while walking in the woods, when a character was already clearly spitballing possible ways to kill a Jedi while weaponless.
But who could _possibly_ have such a niche goal to fill that role?
It's fine to establish things like that, perfectly fine. Some scene has to be the first to mention it. There is no reason why it has to be earlier.
@@ArphemiusWe have a word for stuff that comes out of nowhere that solves the problem of the writer wanting their payoff but didn't want to do a redraft to tease it or hint at its existence earlier: Deus Ex Machina.
@@Lalle524 Correct, we have a word for stuff like that. This isn't that. This is the first time you see this guy fight, he isn't pulling this out of nowhere. This is introduced as part of his arsenal.
If Mei had used Cortosis, as OP says, that would then have been the first time it was used. It has to be used for the first time at some point, you can't just push it back and call it a day. I mean, that's how literally anything works.
You could have them state that Cortosis is a thing, but that would not at all somehow be better than having a character use it to introduce it.
So she stopped Sol from killing Smilo all so she could sacrifice her droid friend to *maybe* kill Smilo.
Osha's alignment is apparently Stupid Evil.
If he is strong enough to pull a jedi knight, he is definitely strong enough to force subdue the padawan girl... but he aint allowed.
Or Mae, if he really wanted to kill her. Force powers must've been on cooldown.
@@Valen-mh9fhbattlefront 2 style lmao
If you can throw a wrench you can throw a ball!
Appreciate the quick turnaround on these videos! Alright Mauler you can let yourself and your team out of the editing dungeon...for now 😉
You know ya fucked up when the Longman becomes the “gotta go fast!” Man.
Now now let's call it the editing fun house!
By Yord's snap neck, it is a quick turnaround
@@SiriusSphynx
Chris Stuckman: Tell that to Yord's snapped neck!
@@JohnGoetzGaming AHAHAH
The Death Star wasn't a weapon used by the Empire to instill fear, Palpatine just wanted to start a Phrik mining franchise
Osha, Ep4: I feel really, really bad about my actions accidentally leading to the death of that bug monster.
Osha, Ep5: Let's set a bunch of bug monsters on a Sith who will hack them to pieces with his lightsaber rather than me just escaping with Yord as Sol wanted, or work with Sol & Yord to kill SmilORen.
Not even that. All she had to do was to keep her mouth shut and Squid Games would just cut Smilo's head off.
The thing that particularly sticks in my throat, amongst all the other BS, is how Sol just leaves his Jedi dead (and lightsabers) to rot and be fed on by jungle carrion.... even his 'child' apprentice, What the F*@k!
Maybe he wants to go get his ship to land back near this spot and retrieve the bodies to take home for burial? Idk.
Well, I will defend him; they are apparently a few hours walk into a dense forest, and there are like 6 bodies to take care of. They can't carry them all out--best to get back to the ship and radio back to base so another ship can teleport there in 5 minutes with a proper crew to go in and get all the bodies.
@@billjacobs521 😂 Yeah, exactly the ship will take less time to fly/teleport all the way from a morgue planet than Sol to walk back to his ship. Unless he remembers that he also can teleport.
"One major source of phrik was the phrikite mines of Gromas 16" is the most Star Wars statement I've ever read
Last week, the "Yord Horde" were defending this show. Given he is dead now, I wonder if they will next week.
Just say to them, "Tell that to Yord's snapped neck"
What the hell is yord horde?
@@Vario69 Best guess? People who like the Acolyte because Yord was topless in one scene.
@Senate917Yord fans BTFOd
The films themselves prove the logic of this series wrong. When the Sith finally do reveal themselves, not a single person or entity blames the Jedi. The Jedi are instantly made Generals of a galactic army to combat them directly with more power than they've ever had in history lol
Except only the Jedi really know about the Sith revealing themselves. The rest of the galaxy is mobilizing against the CIS, which at that point, no one knew was connected to the Sith at all.
@@Ki_Adi_Mundi I don't think we actually know that. I don't believe it's established if anyone else is told about Dooku being a Sith or not.
@@billjacobs521 It...kinda sounds like you're agreeing with me and disagreeing with me at the same time. I have no idea what you're trying to say dude 😂
They were kinda thrust into the role at the Battle of Geonosis and then leaned into it. I wish we got more evidence of them refusing to let that power and control go, which might further expose the hypocrisy of the Jedi.
Ah well
@@Ki_Adi_Mundi So the galaxy is going to hear about this one random dude in a forest, but don't know about the LEADERS OF THE OPPOSING CIVIL WAR FACTION?
Yeah fucking right. Try again.
I love how Mae thinks she can hide with Sol when he literally pointed out she has a new tattoo in the flash back lol
I want to point out that it's incredibly dumb that the Jedi (looking at you Ki Adi Mundi) didn't know about this incident during the prequels but even more unbelievable was that Darth Tenebrous and Darth Plagueis didn't sense the presence of such a powerful dark side force user.
you say that, but watch them randomly do a big darth plagueis reveal at the end
The lightsaber-shorting ore was specifically introduced twenty years ago in a book called "I, Jedi" as armor, but it gets dumber: the writer said that Palpatine armored his throne rooms and bedchambers with it. There's so much of it available to the rich and powerful that you can coat entire rooms with it.
But who would actually use it besides people scared of the Jedi/Sith?
Kind of a special use case for armor.
I don’t see this is an actual problem for EU lore.
WAIT... so so when Luke and Vader cut anything in the RotJ throne room fight (like the walkway cutting throw), their sabers should've stopped... LOL
@@azaryahwilson1826 I do. Palpatine armored entire rooms with it but not himself or Vader? It's completely absurd. Even if Palpatine didn't, the Jedi serving the old Republic, the dark jedi serving the Sith Empire, or even the Mandelorians would have ample reason to create phrik/cortosis armor. Why don't they?
@@monder1060My mind immediately went to that lmao
They will cherry pick anything they want from the EU, even if it's kind of garbage...
What does Asian Ezra Miller want? He wants to be a force user without rules so he has to kill the Jedi, but even if killed all the Jedi, what does he want to do with his powers? Start a criminal empire? Run a shop? WTF does he want beyond the show?
The Jedi were clearly willing to let him go, given that they specifically let him go once before. He's not being actively hunted until dead jedi start turning up, and even then they're like, "Meh, you're just an accomplice, we'll let you off with a warning this time."
I guess since he considers himself as a "sith" he wants to control the galaxy or something. But then again he isn't a true sith, as in, he isn't one of the two that carries on Darth Banes legacy and goals, so who fucking knows.
He wants a pupil, for reasons.
He had a pupil, but then sent her to assassinate Jedi, thereby attracting the attention of the Jedi 🤦🏽
He just wanted to grill T.T
Smilo Ren was discount Ezra Miller all along? Whoa, that was so unpredictable
Letting him go in EP2 was such a wonderfull idea.
"No don't kill Smilo Ren, my master who told me to go around killing jedi, which I did!"
"Don't kill him, even though he just recently killed several jedis and your young apprentice, I can fix him!"
What the hell is this nonsensical writing?
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anyone else remember that yoda could distinguish literal clones in the force. now you cant tell the difference between twins with vastly different emotions
Please, whoever is editing these, please add the Leslie Nielson Police Squad / Naked Gun thrown pillow scene when the cloak was thrown on Sole. It is perfect where Leslie is thrown a pillow and then grabs and holds it on his own face - it is _perfect_ I swear.
People getting tricked into thinking this is a good episode just because of the fight scenes is truly aggravating.
Acknowledging that the action is good is one thing, but to act like this somehow redeems the horrendous writing is another.
See if you go past the glowy sticks, i'm not sure the fighting even holds up, i mean when does headbutting lightsabers seem smart.
The action isn't good though
Lights and sounds do be happening but I'm not feeling all that impressed.
I mean I’m glad they’re giving a seemingly fair review but we all know the aim of this show and Leslie’s regard to George
@JH-il4nv
when the headbutt is impervious to lightsabers and actively turns them off
The Shlurpolite, episode 5:
The true mastermind reveals himself to be... Poggle the Lesser from the Prequels because I am running out of characters at this point. Poggle says "I am the Bug People" and then does a bag flip and fights all the Jedi, slaying many whilst the Techno Union provide the soundtrack.
Meanwhile Bad Shlurpo has had an interesting character journey. She was loyal to Shlurpo, but tried to kill Good Shlurpo when she was a child, then wants revenge on the Jedi for killing Good Shlurpo, she takes out Jedi's then gets bored and says she wants to be a good Shlurpo. However, she finds out Jedi Master Porkins has died of diabeetes, so she decides to impersonate her sister Good Shlurpo to get closer to Jedi Master Ho Lee Fuk and kill him. She wears clown shoes, puts her hat at a jaunty angle and waves her flashlight back and forth just like Good Shlurpo. Hopefully they won't notice any difference despite the fact Bad Shlurpo has a tattoo that says "I am evil" written on her face.
Tune in next week for whatever is next.
"because I am running out of characters at this point"
Just like Disney, though unlike them you're honest.
I'd watch this in a second
This is a masterpiece. So much nuance, such suspense, very media literacy, hella truth to form. It leaves one wondering at every turn; "Which Shlurpo is really Good Shlurpo?" "The tattoo -- 'I am evil' -- what does it mean?" "What exactly is a bag flip? Is it just a typo, or is it a _locust of the human experience_ ??"
In case there was any confusion on why Jecki and Osha had random heart to heart conversations in Episode 4, a certain death in this episode explains why.
I care now !
WAAAAAAADE!!!
Although they forgot to have Osha give much of a reaction. She takes everything in stride, even calming down Sol despite him being a Jedi Master.
@@billjacobs521 I wonder if they forgot to write that, or never considered it important to write in the first place…
24:30 Osha sacrifices the robot
25:40 She has the robot again
The robot has 2 parts she pulled off the top half which seemed to be the "head"
@@mattparsons2045 Isn't that the part that's sticking out?
EDIT: Nevermind, the part that's sticking out is still the torso. I was wrong.
HIS NAME IS PIP!
🤣🤣 I can't
I don’t know what cringe awaits us in this episode, but regarding the “splinter order” that keeps rumored around. The Expanded universe explained that the origins of the sith that they were Jedi who tried to take the order into the Gray area between light and dark and because of that they were expelled. Upon their expelling, they came across a planet called korraban that is inhabited by a species that woreships the dark side. They eventually befriended those aliens and together they created a new order, the sith order, so the sith ARE already a *SPLINTER ORDER FROM THE JEDI!!!!*
Yes, one the Jedi believe to be extinct. They believe that this is a new splinter order, unrelated to the Sith (at least the council does. Obviously Sol, Mae, Osha, and Bazil know the truth after this episode but we'll see what happens with that)
@@mr.starwars8863they still need to find a logical explanation why a Jedi order wouldn't care, if all of a sudden 10 of its members were slaughtered... Like... There is not that many Things besides Sith/Dark Jedi that are able to achieve that no?
I wouldn't exactly say "befriended".
Didn't the Exiles basically make themselves the rulers of Korriban?
The Sith as a species knew a lot about the Dark Side of the Force but they were relatively primitive.
@@johannesseyfried7933yeah they ended up combining with each other. They had kids together and merged the cultures.
@@mr.starwars8863 To be fair the Darkside almost automatically makes you space hitler or even worse, so any unknown splinter order would potentially be insanely dangerous.
Old Sheev was pretty chill, all he did was committee a few genocides, while other darkside users turn into fucking demi-elder gods that snack on planets like they are freshly backed pizza slices.
Sol could've totally killed that guy instead of sparing his life and the series would have been over. We could have like two beach episodes after this!
I don't want to see any of these characters half naked. I'd rather they just end the series there.
@@ElGreco15 Don't knock it until you see Bazil in a speedo.
@@ElGreco15 Amandla is attractive, even if everything else about her is bleh.
@@billjacobs521 True. And I'd be way more into politics if more hot ladies like her would share their opinions by twerking to a camera like she does.
I feel like the old rule was that it requires an exponentially higher use of force to attack another force user than it costs them to defend. So unless you were much, much more powerful than your opponent it wasn’t worth it
The telekinetic Force requires concentration to use practically, meaning that focus blocks out all situational awareness in the process since pushing 100 to 200 lbs is a lot more difficult than a 1 oz apple. And since it's like an invisible hand, it logically follows that another Force user can block it.
Jecki Stardust lasted way longer in that fight than she should have
Always my favorite, she's the least experienced, but somehow lasts the longest in a one on one.
I'd buy it if there was some establishment that Qimir was toying with her, but she actually has him on the ropes... Jecki can't be force pulled around though
at least she got taken out like a Padawan should have.
Is Stardust actually part of her name? They gave her a stripper name lol
@@ElGreco15 it's just a 80s pop music reference thanks to Little Platoon ☺️
X23 genes
Dunno if anyone has pointed it out, but Dafne Keen (Jecki) is credited for all the remaining episodes. So she might still be alive lol. Yord and others are not.
The power of one
The power of two
The power of maaaannny (stomaches)
I swear to Yaddle, this was written my AI. The dialogue is 100% AI written. The vague nonsense, the forgetting what just happened, all of it. They used a last generation chatbot app to write this show.
Honestly, I think even last gen AI would've done a better job.
Smilo ren reveal... HOLY FISH PASTE ITS A GUY
A genuine plot twist from Disney.
You thought it's gonna be the YASS lady? 😂
Definitely had me for a moment when I thought MIke from RedLetterMedia was correct when he said Smilo looked like a woman.
Probably so they have no qualms about killing him off in the end without some great self sacrifice or that "he's just misunderstood" and try to reform him.
GUYS! SMILE-O REN IS QIMIR! I clapped because I know who that is! And his helmet was made of some cool metal that shorts out lightsabers! I clapped because it was so cool!
I clapped for Star Wars!
My prediction for the "the sith have been extinct for a millenia"
Sol reports to the Jedi that all his team except for "Osha" is dead. The jedi do some mental gymnastics along the lines of "you killed all the other witnesses of Brendok, killed the whole team and now you're saying the Sith did it? And the girl you have with you isn't even Osha. Master and apprentice - dun dun duuuuun"
Basically, Sol gets framed for the whole thing and the jedi go "case closed"
That sounds so insane that it might actually be what will happen
They've already established that he was elsewhere when the first two Jedi were killed, and that the Jedi are aware of that.
@@billjacobs521 he was, but Mae wasn't
CALLED IT!
The fantastic metallic substance called Phrik is actually just the excrement of Babu Frik's species. I think this idea came from Futurama.
*how did this happen?! we're smarter than this!* - sums up Disney Wars as a whole
I get that his helmet can turn off lightsabers but headbutting one is still kinda dumb. Like, what if your aim is off? Say goodbye to an arm.
Or, you know, into your shoulder and now you're dead.
Disney: has Ahsoka fighting zombies instead of giving Thrawn's armies cortosis armor, as Thrawn is canonically aware of its power.
Also Disney: gives cortosis to a random sith who uses it on precisely two pieces of armor.
Also how does he carry his helmet around with him?
Schlurpo runs the phrik and cortosis black market.
Smylo got his armor from Schlurpo.
Disney Star Wars unintentionally delivered one of the most based character lines in the franchise when Qimir called Jecki "it". Guy clearly doesn't care about pronouns😂
Best line in the show. Rivaled only by the line 'You brought her here.'
Based and sith-pilled.
Yknow what? I might end up liking this guy. Especially since I find his edgy cringe funny.
‘It’ IS a pronoun. You guys really are extraordinarily stupid.
Tripping over your own feet in your rush to say something ‘based’, which is just a euphemism for being petty and bigoted.
The one thing ill like him for
Since the Darth Bane series was brought up, I believe it was stated in "Path of Destruction" that everyone puts up a barrier to resist telekinetic powers. It takes concentration to maintain it, so it could be penetrated.
But since the EU was nullified, ya, there's no consistency to when telekinesis works.
Even in Revenge of the Sith, you see Anakin and Obi-Wan clearly try to Force push each other, lock in a stalemate, until they both fling backwards, clearly communicating to us that you can use the Force to resist the Force. Even this show established that in episode 3. Lazy jerks just won't stick to their own story,
If Sol would have just killed Smilo Ren in the forrest until Osha told him not to do it, the Sith would have been done and Sidious wouldn't have ruled the Galaxy as a dictator for decades. So thanks for that, Osha. The people of Alderaan are especially grateful.
Nah, this isn't Plageous, or however that's spelled, so it wouldn't have mattered.
I'm gonna guess Smilo Ren isn't a real Sith, just a wannabe, probably the green Jedi lady's ex-padawan.
The fight scene was probably the best lightsaber duel of the Disney Era, (but what is the fascination with making them at night? Seriously all of the fights are so dim across all the tv shows) and I like lightsabers being lethal again… Too bad about literally everything else.
(Edit): I've seen a remarkable amount of conversation on other videos saying the moths were fine because Star Wars is goofy, the old stormtrooper head bonk argument therefore criticism invalidated argument in full force again. Besides which I think the criticism is not that the moths were used as a plot device after being set up in the previous episode but the manner in which there were used, that rather than being a desperate gamble during the low point they were instead a inefficient method of execution purely for plot armor reasons. Smylo wasn't even unarmed in any real sense given so Sol's moral dilemma was pointless.
I believe it has to do with their swapping out the prop sabers.
They like using these versions which give off their own light rather than the simple metal rods that the prequels added the light too in post.
To get the most out of the effect they're using dimly lit scenes but the scene being dark is doing more harm to the visuals than the prop is giving them.
Money
the fight scene was so bad but i think you're right. disney sw is sad
@MediumRareOpinions it looks so, so bad. Especially the green ones. It makes them look like glow sticks
I'm not even sure if it reaches that low standard. It seems intense since they actually were willing to let named characters die, but it's loaded up with pure stupid. It makes everything so arbitrary because sometimes you can just point your lightsaber at someone and use Force Pull to impale them, which creates a ton of problems. And you have characters who are just not involved in the fight, just missing in subspace for some reason. People materializing and dematerializing out of nowhere. There's no thoughts given to the actual logistics of a 7 versus 1 fight. And for some reason they just gave a Sith Man a power level over 9,000 so nobody else can do anything.
Rereading the old good EU stuff really puts into perspective how stupid Disney Star Wars is in. For context, in the Hand of Thrawn duology(SPOILER ALERT) there's a bit where Luke investigates a group of pirates and is ultimately captured. How he's captured is smart where the pirates lure him into a gravity chamber and separate him from his lightsaber. The pirates explained they had it built in case they ran into Jedi(note, the New Jedi order was just starting up and it's like 15 years after the OT) and they even accounted for Luke's force pull to his saber by positioning it in a way where he can't pull it or cut it free. So how does Luke escape? Well, he uses some battery packs of ammo which he levitates via the force(the cage he's in has bars but they aren't very big), floats to his saber and uses his saber to trigger an explosion which frees his saber and he can pull it and cut him free. This works because earlier, he's found out and he drops his blaster and when asked about his ammo packs, the pirates assume he won't be able to do anything with them. Now, I can see EFAP and members having issues with say the new Force powers within the old EU or even this setup possibly, but you can't tell me this entire thing I described is in the same league as this crap from the Acolyte?
One that clearly had a lot of thought put in and showcased how resourceful Luke was as a character vs flashy lightsaber moves with characters barely doing anything?
The EU is fanfiction and must be ignored when discussing actual Star Wars.
@@peterg9729Never. It’s my “actual” Star Wars.
Indeed, and I for one absolutely despise Timothy Zahn's handling of the force, almost as much as he himself hates that the force exists. He still does way better than modern writers who create a show specifically about jedi.
@@Arphemius Yeah, it is fair to go after Zahn with the use of the Force and even the EU with it continually introducing new Force powers. But at least, he utilizes them creatively and doesn't conveniently forget about them. I wouldn't even care about the new powers if they were used well and had creative limits. Force healing in TROS is infuriating because if that power existed why didn't Anakin develop it? It would have helped him. Whereas Star Wars Legacy with Cade Skywalker, they treat the ability appropriately in that it's a very rare power, Krayt wants the power for his own issues, and also there's a weakness where using it brings Cade closer to the dark side and thus he has his master disapprove of that given Jedi teachings.
@@Avarn388 You misunderstand. New force powers? I wasn't even aware he introduced any. Zahn's problem is the opposite, that he doesn't want to really engage with the force, so he negates it as much as he can, except when he can use it as a plot device by giving people visions. He does his very best to diminish the presence of the force in his stories at every point. At one point in Hand of Thrawn I think it was, Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade, two exceptionally powerful force users, need several chapters to defeat a single droideka. He weakens them by that much. Zahn outright writes, through Luke, that using force powers diminishes the ability to hear the force guide you - meaning, Zahn actively has him not use it so that Zahn has an excuse to use it as a plot device. Even though he's good at a lot of aspects, I despise how he handles the force.
I agree with healing though. It's fine to be a technique, a particular power, but like everything else, it should be something you need to train to use. It can't just be something instinctive. And as you said if the effect is so exaggerated that it can bring people back from the dead basically, then Vader could very well have healed his burn scars and gotten rid of the suit.
Imagine, just imagine you've written your protagonist to care so little about her friends that even seeing them get killed in front of her doesn't elicit a response. Darth Gains here just murdered your friend with his bare hands, I really don't think he counts as "unarmed". Also, the thought that a cortosis throwing knife and a blaster could literally double tap any Jedi (that didn't already know what was coming) is kinda hilarious, just throw the knife at them, watch them block it like Trinity did, short out their lightsaber and then shoot them with your blaster, easy.
The power of many is nullified by the power of smylo.
The show not allowing sol to kill ezra miller because "he has no weapon" has the same energy as walker being labeled evil because he killed an unarmed supersoldier who was involved in multiple murders.
The fact that people are honestly trying to defend this shit writing is endlessly more entertaining than the show itself.
Watching this after the RLM video where they desperately try to fence sit while clearly fighting back the urge to defend this trash, lmfao.
Phrik is the new "isle of man"
Nah Isle of Man is cool. Phrik is the lobster flag.
Image if they just captured/arrested him in episode 2
...
Why didn't they?
Because Disney wanted a bwig jedwi bwaddle.
He got into all of their heads and Sith mind tricked them. "I'm not the killer you're looking for. Let me go with a warning"
Because we can't have Yord ever be right about anything, even though he was right.
It's worse than budget, she said they cut the Wookie fight because it broke the POV of the show.
The POV is, oh my goodness who killed the Wookie, and then they reveal it five seconds later anyway!!! Just show the Wookie fight ffs!
Agreed, it would have made no difference. Especially given the litany of piss poor "reveals" in this show
You could easily have Osha wander off, led by a Force vision again, to find Kalnaka, and witness the fight. Maybe she even gets caught in a trap (instead of Smilo) and has to watch.
How did it not break POV when they showed Wookiee Jedi Man in the other scenes without any important characters, then?
The Ride of the Mothhirrim was awesome story telling and action.
How does Yord not remember those things are attracted to the light? He was standing right there
Star Wars Legends
Cortosis ore was a very rare, brittle, fibrous material, the conductive properties of which would cause lightsabers to temporarily short out upon contact. This effect made cortosis a useful material for anti-lightsaber melee weapons, though with repeated strikes, a lightsaber could still cut through it. Cortosis, due to its energy resistant properties, was also resistant to blaster fire.
Cortosis ore was used extensively in shadowtrooper armor, as well as the C-B3 cortosis battle droids during the Clone Wars, and the Force-using group known as the Jensaarai. The cortosis used for this armor was smuggled out from Bespin's Cloud City. The walls of the Imperial Palace were also lined with cortosis ore. It was also used to strengthen starfighter and capital ship hulls, and was woven into body armor.
Cortosis was expensive to mine because it was so rare and it had to be absolutely refined. Pure, unrefined, cortosis ore was for unexplained reasons, energized, killing anyone who touched it with their bare skin, even Hutts, who had energy-resistant enzymes in their sweat. Miners had to have filtering equipment, or else the cortosis particles would accumulate in their systems, causing hair loss, sickness, and eventually death. The substance was energy-resistant, meaning energy tools (such as plasma torches) were virtually useless. The brute force of hydraulic jacks were used to mine it, though it quickly wore the head of the jack to uselessness and its dust would clog the pistons. Pockets of highly-combustible lethane gas often formed near cortosis deposits.
So why wasn't vader's armour made of this? Its not like the GALACTIC empire would be exactly lacking in resources.
@@frawDgnicnaD I could believe that Palpatine wouldn't permit his apprentice to have it, as it might enable Vader to eventually kill the Emperor.
Another question; if Bespin produces this super-rare and amazing material, why are they allowed to remain independent of the direct Imperial control?
how stupid that is
@@billjacobs521 I believe that his armor was laced with it, so it was somewhat resilient.
@@frawDgnicnaD Yeah, it literally was. Why do you assume it wasn't? And if you mean why wasn't it made from pure Cortosis that would shut off a lightsaber, it's because it's extremely brittle and not suitable for armor. Cortosis weave or alloy, which is stronger, is energy resistant but won't shut off a lightsaber.
L.: 'Noooo, H.. She was innocent.
H.: 'You brought her here.'
I will admit, I like Smilo more than I thought I would. That is because the actor is actually really good. I didn't see that coming. It sucks he's stuck in a crappy show. I like edgelord characters like him and Edgy the Hedgy.
I think he's doing a good job too. He even seems to be able to lightsaber fight well. The inconsistencies remain though unfortunately :/
@rice.flakes Ya. That's why I'll give it a D instead of an F. He's a good actor that moves really well in the fight. He's also ripped af. It's funny going from his scenes to the "twins" scenes where the lead "actress " only has one face....blank with wide eyes
He would have been great as one of the Sith of the Old Republic Era Empire.
@@terrasur4168 Yup. Darth Nihilis or something
Him and Sol are the only good things about this awful show.
"Wat'ch'a'bring'me?" is such a devilish way to keep us watching to the end. It's an addictive drug. I need the weekly hit.
My grandmother told me, “I don’t care what they told you in film class, the mad goose wizard was sith”
I'm afraid they're going to do something even worse with the flashback now. I think when Mae says Osha was brainwashed, they're going to make that literally true, and the stuff we saw with Mae starting a fire never even happened. It's not just that Osha didn't see what happened, it's that the Jedi Force-manipulated her memories, and it was Mae trying to save Osha from the Jedi or something like that. They might even do the thing where the whole time, it was MAE who wanted to join the Jedi as a kid, and Osha didn't trust them, but then the Jedi basically kidnapped her and brainwashed her into remembering everything differently.
He is willing to Kill Osha in this episode..but doesn't just gut her like a Fish in the end of the last episode.
"You can't kill Jedi with a Lightsaber.." *kills like 5 Jedi with a Lightsaber in this episode*
Sol's stock plummeted in this episode, He allowed a Sith Lord to go free in episode 2, every single death that occurs as a result of Qimir not getting arrested in Episode 2 is directly Sol's fault.
Sol is the worst Jedi in the history of Jedi.
I bet that green woman will go to the jungle planet to kill the Jedi who survived and also Smilo to keep the Sith a secret.
Ooh, that's more than likely. Perchance another instance of ol' headlamp wrighting what she knows? 🤣
Allegedly, in my opinion... cough
Oh you sweet summer children. X23 is going to survive. She was stabbed in three deliberately non-lethal spots. Light sabers don't kill people unless both stomachs, all five lungs, or all fifteen hearts are pierced.
glad you called her that
i knew i saw her face somewhere 😂
Quite the contrary Mauler, there is canonically a material called frik that can block lightsabers. It’s used by General Grievous Magna Guard Droid’s electro staffs
yeah and its dumb
You guys actually make this series fun. Kudos - not just for the super intelligent commentary, but the clever visual editing that makes static avatars feel like animated characters. 👏
Y'know what kinda show I'd like to see if competently written? A Star Wars show following a Sith protagonist, who is actually of the ancient Sith race, in an almost Cobra Kai style setup, he's a master of the dark side living in the modern world, Jedi are the majority faction and the Empire is long gone, saves a youth from Cartel gangsters, loan sharks, kidnappers etc.
Then have that sith go on a very personal journey where, like Cobra Kai, you see the positive influence that the Sith Code can bring in moderation, but when you delve deeper into the extremes then you risk falling to corruption and it'll be up to that protagonist to choose to indulge in the power and temptations, or choose to be better than the sith masters who've come before him.
Wishful thinking but hey, one can dream.
That makes no sense. The darkside corrupts. Just using it, he would become more and more corrupt. It's not about extremes. It's that you use anger and hate to use it.
@@debanydoombringer1385 More than that, even; it revels in it. It promotes passion and selfishness. As has been said before, there is no balance between light and dark in the Force; the lightside IS balance, by definition, and the dark side is always evil, by definition.
Admittedly, even I was impressed by /some/ of this episode, like the triple tap kill, or Yorg using the discarded helmet to his fleeting advantage. Heck, my ol' nerdy self appreciated the chance to finally see cortosis get some live action love, but that discussion about Phrik brought me back to reality, reminding me how absolutely daft this franchise has become. Thanks a lot, Disney.
I'm laughing at the fact that in the first shot with lightsabers through the trees, we see a bunch of Jedi lightsabers off to the left just swinging away at nothing, or even each other while smilo is way off to the right. Peak disney right there
congrats on the name SMILO REN becoming canon !
Its kind of funny and kind of infuriating how the giant bugs don't appear when the big flashy lightsaber duel is happening, but rather when a single flashlight gets turned on. Really makes you go hmmmmm
They actually explained why Saul did nothing... they said Smilo-Ren does not follow the rules of combat; those rules are indeed turn based combat. I go, then you, then him, then back to me. But Smilo-Ren cheated by allowing the jedi knight to go, then he went again, and Sol was confused - those seven seconds of inaction was because he was trying to figure out whose turn it was. It happens on tabletop RPGS all the time hmhmhm
Sol: What are you?
Smylo Ren: You could call me a sith.
Sol: That's impossible. The sith have been extinct for 900 years!
he didn't say you could call me a sith he said jedi like you might call me sith. different
Man, sometimes you're just unlucky, I wish Sol had rolled higher on initiative so both his pupils didn't have to die while he was waiting for his turn.
Jacki vs Smilo was them trying to ape Kenobi vs Maul, but they had him take out several Knights before hand, so its really hard to swallow that she could stand on even footing.
They turned this guy into Darth Bane from wish. They stole everything from his fight in Rule of 2, the second book in the EU.
Edit: One of the crew mentioned seeing the Sith prospective, and them fucking up, and getting spotted by the Jedi. This is literally the plot to the 2nd Bane book "Rule of 2". Smilo Ren is literally Bane from wish. Bane was attacked by symbiotic insects who's shells were saber resistant. (Smilo had the helmet). But Bane's armor had massive drawbacks that nearly killed him after his 8 v 2 fight. It's sickening how they've taken one of the best stories ever told, and completely cheapened it
B-but that's impossible. Ms. Kennedy said there weren't any books to pull ideas from! Youre just a LIAR and a BIGOT
that helmet and vambracer were pretty cool trick... Discount Ezra, which likely will turn out to be Darth Plagueis the Wise (who is supposed to be a muun, but is likely being retconned to be Asian) wanted to teach it so badly to his acolyte Palpatine, but ended up being killed in his sleep before he had the chance.
Yeah prolly & he’s Asian Ezra
this is the first I'm hearing of him being Plageuis, and I swear to god, if that's true, I'm going to cry.
@blue-vr8dd No one is going to like or remember this show's cringe version of Plaugeis over the character James Luceno wrote.
@@blue-vr8dd I am merely guessing and making up stuff... but then again, so do the writers of this show. Assume the dumbest things and you are not going to be disappointed :P
You have GOT to be kidding me.. dude if they make him Plagueis.. holy crap.
I like how Darth Bane has to get weird parasitic force bugs from some ancient sith temple, go through absolute and constant agony to keep them under control as to not let them kill him or take over his emotions, and has to learn how to accomplish this through the teachings of an ancient sith from a holocron (an incredibly rare and effective teaching tool), in order to have anti lightsaber armor. And despite the various benefits of having incredibly strong armor covering a large portion of his body, making him largely immune to conventional weapons, it can easily be argued that the various drawbacks of the bugs were so severe that they were instrumental to his downfall.
In the land of Disney on the other hand, almost everybody and their grandam's tiny dog apparently possess armor that is immune to everything from blasters to lightsabers... This is like the writers saying "Plot armor isn't obvious enough, lets step this up a notch."