I'm glad they're using gunpowder more than AoE2's weird approach. AoE2 dipped the toe in with hand cannoneers and bombards but it felt tacked on at the end. These new siege weapons look great
@@terbentur2943 Me too, you read my mind. Hand cannoneers in the 16th century are pretty darn antiquated. I see the glorious Landschneckte charging, with siege cannons and culverins, ornate armored Renaissance knights on the flanks, supported by crossbows and heavy armored men-at-arms/polearms, with.. late 14th to early 15th century gunpowder units... in support. I like the hand cannoneers' design, for the Castle Age, but for the 16th century, harquebuses and, maybe muskets, for the Streltsy, would make more sense. Heck, even if the hand cannon upgrade was a flat range increase and gave the Streltsy harquebus to hand cannoneers I would be happy (floppy hats a bonus). But, from what I've heard, mod support is on the table. And, I think it would be a simple mod to make an upgrade in the Imperial Age for the hand cannoneer, while moving the hand cannoneer to the Castle Age.
@@dr.strangelove9815 Haha exactly my Problem yes. Weren't Landsknechte not also using arquebus and corssbow themselves? Lets hope for a mod, or maybe even the devs are planning to do that one themselves one day. Hell there was a even an official mod from some event in age 2 that turned them into musketeers Also bonus points for floppy heads...
age 3 siege weapons were so much more satisfying, imo these in age 4 suck you have 10 canons firing and you don't see if they hit anything, no projectile, no splash
True, there could be more feedback. Some of the damage on buildings is pretty nice, though, you can notice in the beginning the gates falling apart from the bombards. But there could be more feedback on siege damage against units
Quite clearly the intention here is not to make them a total anti-infantry weapon like in Aoe3. More like a siege weapon that can also attack massed units, much like Aoe2. Also, in Aoe3 they had a resource and population cost to match, so they HAD to be really strong vs everything.
A lot of chokepoints on this map, they can delay the game a bit! More experienced players than myself can probably breach and raid more successfully early on. But once both economies are strong enough you might end up on a nice standoff!
I am having a hard time seeing the cannonballs of the cannons, they are either too small to be seen or too fast. It was used to be tracked easily in AoE3. Hope they can make a little touch for the physics of the siege units and remove that auto ballistic for archers and TCs.
Unfortunately I skipped AoE3, could you dodge cannons there? In 4 I think the ballistics are here to stay, for better or worse... at least mangonels are avoidable, there is some micro you can do against them!
@@rakowozz As far as I can remember it is either impossible or very hard to dodge a cannon ball because its so fast but it can cleary be traced with your eye where it is heading to. In AoE 4, they are blending into the background and also small in scale.
This siege battle remind me an aoe2 mangonel shooting against a group of archers. Maybe it is similar. If the red player send first a cavalry over your siege weapons, the archers would not die
Totally, but both their counters and mine weren't ideal! An actual Mangonel would've been pretty effective against the longbows too. I was lucky they didn't counter-siege me, my "strategy" was pretty fallible. Thankfully we can learn a lot by rewatching our mistakes
Haha thank you, but I'm really not! There are some glaring mistakes I made in this video, mostly having too many resources and not actually producing units. Thankfully it's a brand new game with everyone pretty much learning from scratch!
So am I! I think it's 'cause many people who played the closed beta had already tried the Chinese, their economic mechanics are super fun. But the HRE and the Abbasid were brand new for the Stress Test
They really do! I remember a developer talking about how they worked on their flight paths, but, since they’ve 100% precision, I don’t see how they’re going to fix that
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How did you fare on the Black Forest? I honestly had the most difficult time with it! Those corridors can be a nightmare!
I could tell that was black forest as soon as I started watching... best map mode from aoe2 for me!
@@vinylninja You're in for a treat in aoe4 then, I felt it was the most unique one!
Omg sound design of this game is so great
It is! The detail is incredible. So many examples, but at the 2:51 mark the distant cannon fire caught my attention!
I was about to comment the same thing!
I feel the same. It sounds like we are in a real battle
Love choke point battles. Sound design in AoE4 is sexy af.
"Deer. The vile scum..."
I wasn't expecting that, I laughed so hard ^^
The deer slaughter was uncalled for
I'm glad they're using gunpowder more than AoE2's weird approach. AoE2 dipped the toe in with hand cannoneers and bombards but it felt tacked on at the end. These new siege weapons look great
I agree however I REALLY wish there was an upgrade to the hand cannoneer turning him into an arquebusier. The Streltsy looks perfect for example.
@@terbentur2943 Me too, you read my mind.
Hand cannoneers in the 16th century are pretty darn antiquated. I see the glorious Landschneckte charging, with siege cannons and culverins, ornate armored Renaissance knights on the flanks, supported by crossbows and heavy armored men-at-arms/polearms, with.. late 14th to early 15th century gunpowder units... in support. I like the hand cannoneers' design, for the Castle Age, but for the 16th century, harquebuses and, maybe muskets, for the Streltsy, would make more sense. Heck, even if the hand cannon upgrade was a flat range increase and gave the Streltsy harquebus to hand cannoneers I would be happy (floppy hats a bonus).
But, from what I've heard, mod support is on the table. And, I think it would be a simple mod to make an upgrade in the Imperial Age for the hand cannoneer, while moving the hand cannoneer to the Castle Age.
@@dr.strangelove9815 Haha exactly my Problem yes. Weren't Landsknechte not also using arquebus and corssbow themselves? Lets hope for a mod, or maybe even the devs are planning to do that one themselves one day. Hell there was a even an official mod from some event in age 2 that turned them into musketeers
Also bonus points for floppy heads...
age 3 siege weapons were so much more satisfying, imo these in age 4 suck
you have 10 canons firing and you don't see if they hit anything, no projectile, no splash
True, there could be more feedback. Some of the damage on buildings is pretty nice, though, you can notice in the beginning the gates falling apart from the bombards. But there could be more feedback on siege damage against units
Quite clearly the intention here is not to make them a total anti-infantry weapon like in Aoe3. More like a siege weapon that can also attack massed units, much like Aoe2. Also, in Aoe3 they had a resource and population cost to match, so they HAD to be really strong vs everything.
@@Leonhart_93 build anti infantry seige and lign up a perfect shot on bunch of archers, see if you notice anything at all
@@krellin In Aoe3 or 4? And what exactly should I notice? It is not clear.
Nice point. Aoe3 siege makes a huge amount of soldier flying away through the shoting path.
awesome editing !
The reality of what all those fake apps promise to be.
Love the aoe 4 content ! Keep it up !
I'm so glad aymen! Glad the game already has a growing community!
Omg i hadnt seen such a late game battle yet but man did it look good
A lot of chokepoints on this map, they can delay the game a bit! More experienced players than myself can probably breach and raid more successfully early on. But once both economies are strong enough you might end up on a nice standoff!
Holy shit the sound design is crazy
the random mutiny in the opponets army during a seige haha
I am having a hard time seeing the cannonballs of the cannons, they are either too small to be seen or too fast. It was used to be tracked easily in AoE3. Hope they can make a little touch for the physics of the siege units and remove that auto ballistic for archers and TCs.
Unfortunately I skipped AoE3, could you dodge cannons there? In 4 I think the ballistics are here to stay, for better or worse... at least mangonels are avoidable, there is some micro you can do against them!
@@rakowozz As far as I can remember it is either impossible or very hard to dodge a cannon ball because its so fast but it can cleary be traced with your eye where it is heading to. In AoE 4, they are blending into the background and also small in scale.
This siege battle remind me an aoe2 mangonel shooting against a group of archers. Maybe it is similar. If the red player send first a cavalry over your siege weapons, the archers would not die
Totally, but both their counters and mine weren't ideal! An actual Mangonel would've been pretty effective against the longbows too. I was lucky they didn't counter-siege me, my "strategy" was pretty fallible. Thankfully we can learn a lot by rewatching our mistakes
you are really good at this game
Haha thank you, but I'm really not! There are some glaring mistakes I made in this video, mostly having too many resources and not actually producing units. Thankfully it's a brand new game with everyone pretty much learning from scratch!
God, I am SO HUNGRY for AOE4. Why don't people play more Chinese though? T.T
So am I! I think it's 'cause many people who played the closed beta had already tried the Chinese, their economic mechanics are super fun. But the HRE and the Abbasid were brand new for the Stress Test
That unit was seriously broken lol just felt like a better springald in every way. I wonder if it will be changed in some way
I was wondering that haha. I have no stats, but they did feel so much better than the Ribauldequin. Really like your videos btw!
Of course they are strong, you are playing on black forrest - a closed map
Yes! Closed map is almost an understatement haha
The homing arrows look so weird still
They really do! I remember a developer talking about how they worked on their flight paths, but, since they’ve 100% precision, I don’t see how they’re going to fix that
@@rakowozz the 100% precision is disappointing but I guess it's easier and requires less resources to calculate
Just like how Napoleon would have won it.
man aoe 4 is weird.
Disliked for all the unnecessary cuts. Just lets us watch the battle.
I'll keep that in mind if I ever make longer format videos. Thanks for the feedback. Seriously, I appreciate!
The art style it's awful.