Apple Watch Ultra 2 Black Unboxing (All the Details!)

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @ZachGrabill
    @ZachGrabill 2 місяці тому +151

    It's so much better in black.

    • @RobertGaron
      @RobertGaron 2 місяці тому +6

      Almost everything is.

    • @HitlerlandBoi
      @HitlerlandBoi 2 місяці тому +1

      Yo iSheep, there was a knockoff android one in black color a year ago. Guess where Apple got it's "inspiration"

    • @ER-nb8em
      @ER-nb8em 2 місяці тому +1

      except for people

    • @gudelauneee
      @gudelauneee 2 місяці тому +7

      No. If it scratches the scratches are more visible.

    • @kasidizmahdnor6510
      @kasidizmahdnor6510 2 місяці тому +6

      @@gudelauneeeit’s anodized, so stretches won’t remove the color UNLESS, it’s diamond cut deep. Theoretically speaking. I need to see someone test it. 😆

  • @PHISH8
    @PHISH8 2 місяці тому +40

    Soooooo much better… so glad I did not upgrade my Ultra 1 to the 2 last year and held out… hoping they would do the Black… Can’t wait to pick mine up tomorrow morning…

    • @AfterDarkGrafX-1
      @AfterDarkGrafX-1 2 місяці тому +3

      Same here been wanting a black variant so stayed on gen 1 and it's payed off roll on tomorrow 🔥💯

    • @romeyromethecomic
      @romeyromethecomic 2 місяці тому +2

      Can’t wait till mines get to UPS guess next week lol lol

    • @davidbraswell1481
      @davidbraswell1481 2 місяці тому +5

      I am STRONLY waiting for the 3, Congratz though enjoy

  • @AdamBradley-v1h
    @AdamBradley-v1h 2 місяці тому +78

    My man looked like he was putting on a tourniquet! lol

  • @beachs7210
    @beachs7210 2 місяці тому +7

    Love the black!! Looks so much better and sleeker.

  • @juanchistrd
    @juanchistrd 2 місяці тому +8

    You have to do a scratch and impact test to see how well the black color holds up, no one has done it yet.

  • @devALLjapan
    @devALLjapan 2 місяці тому +4

    Upgrading from a series 7 in starlight to the ultra 2 in black. Definitely looking forward to it. The moment the ultra came out I regretted going from the series 7 to the 3, felt like I should have waited a little longer.. But now I’m glad, the ultra in black is looking awesome. Cant wait for mine to arrive.

  • @Sath975
    @Sath975 2 місяці тому +4

    Upgraded from Apple Watch Series 7 to the new ultra black. Love the black look, glad I waited. The resolution difference is crazy ❤

  • @tombuck
    @tombuck 2 місяці тому +1

    Mine’s supposed to get here tomorrow- nervous and excited and this is exactly the video I wanted!

    • @Hellcat71782
      @Hellcat71782 2 місяці тому

      Ya mine is coming today around 1 but I’ll be at work

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  2 місяці тому

      Tom! Thanks for stopping by. It's a good looking watch!

  • @TheSiemek
    @TheSiemek 2 місяці тому +1

    I just got mine. It looks better than the previous one. I really like those colorful bits too.

  • @RobertGaron
    @RobertGaron 2 місяці тому +5

    😎I couldn’t agree more about Apple needing to put in a black charging cable and puck with the black watch. ✌️

  • @DerSchweiz3r
    @DerSchweiz3r Місяць тому +1

    This green bracelet looks insanely good. I ordered it right away.

  • @RealTalk309
    @RealTalk309 2 місяці тому +44

    If you do a scratch test right now you’ll easily get 1 million views, no one had done it yet.

    • @MyViewon_Life
      @MyViewon_Life 2 місяці тому +2

      Big risk tho haha

    • @Pouncer_Fox
      @Pouncer_Fox 2 місяці тому +1

      @@MyViewon_Life Nah, dude has still has the original Ultra 2 to fall back on. And we're just talking about testing scratches, which I too am curious about.

    • @clkbait3200
      @clkbait3200 2 місяці тому

      @@MyViewon_Life that's how life works man

    • @Cortezuma
      @Cortezuma 2 місяці тому

      You could watch any number of PVD/DLC scratch tests. If you’re not concerned about impact specifically and just scratches, then it’ll be relevant.

    • @fabrubi172
      @fabrubi172 Місяць тому +1

      It scratches easy.

  • @SpeedyColaGaming
    @SpeedyColaGaming День тому

    Upgraded from Apple Watch Series 6 to the new ultra 2 black, I just love the black look, glad I upgraded. The size and resolution is so crazy.

  • @hexafoe
    @hexafoe Місяць тому

    Welcome back to Sa- we love having you guys 😊

  • @gregorypuryear387
    @gregorypuryear387 2 місяці тому +8

    I’m only updating from the Ultra 2 because of the color. Apple knows exactly how to get my money LOL!

  • @davidbraswell1481
    @davidbraswell1481 2 місяці тому +8

    you must drag the new Fenix as well or there is no base line!!!!!!!! That would be the best video ever with zero editing!

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  2 місяці тому +4

      Zero editing but close to $2000 invested lol

    • @davidbraswell1481
      @davidbraswell1481 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ChaseTheSummit it’s just money

    • @davidbraswell1481
      @davidbraswell1481 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ChaseTheSummit think of the views the ultimate apple v garmin video

  • @Gabrielerf
    @Gabrielerf 2 місяці тому +1

    It really looks great in black. Thanks Dave.

  • @slapfan1
    @slapfan1 2 місяці тому +5

    The watch looks super cool BTW. I almost bought the black watch with the tan alpine loop, sick combo, but I can't justify the upgrade from the AWU 1.

    • @davidbraswell1481
      @davidbraswell1481 2 місяці тому +1

      @@slapfan1 I can’t either I have both the AWU gen 1 and the Garmin Epix pro Gen 2 51mm and Gen 1 AWU is still my Favorite watch!!

    • @slapfan1
      @slapfan1 2 місяці тому

      @@davidbraswell1481 Same here! I used the Epix for about 4 months. Went back to my AWU and love it.

  • @robsignature
    @robsignature 2 місяці тому +22

    Scratch Test please!

  • @JoshBensonOutdoors
    @JoshBensonOutdoors 2 місяці тому

    I’ve been debating the ultra for a couple years. The black option sold me and I ordered it immediately.

  • @Huppol-l4t
    @Huppol-l4t 2 місяці тому +5

    I'm only here to grand 1 of the 500.000 views to see you drag the AWU 2 with your car :)

  • @GarryBurgess
    @GarryBurgess 2 місяці тому

    You answered an important question as to whether it would show scratches more.

  • @JeremyDeBose
    @JeremyDeBose 2 місяці тому +3

    Call me crazy but I think I have a very fine scratch on mine. I noticed it at work today. Feels like it’ll be the only thing I notice forever 😂

    • @Prettytony0627
      @Prettytony0627 2 місяці тому

      Is the scratch on the screen or the black casing?

    • @JeremyDeBose
      @JeremyDeBose 2 місяці тому

      @@Prettytony0627 the casing but I’m sure now it’s just a result of manufacturing. It’s tiny tiny.

  • @omarrahim995
    @omarrahim995 2 місяці тому +7

    Definitely looks better in natural titanium/ grey

  • @shadow_tagz1116
    @shadow_tagz1116 Місяць тому

    I literally just got mine an hour ago. I had the regular Ultra 2 but traded it for this black one. It is really what I expected and wanted!!

  • @HabitualFixation
    @HabitualFixation 2 місяці тому

    I have a Galaxy Gear 4 so I'm currently awaiting this in the mail. Can't wait, real glad I waited this long to upgrade back to Apple

  • @KreativeKerslake
    @KreativeKerslake 18 днів тому

    Super tempted to jump from my series 4 to this!

  • @matthewperry4141
    @matthewperry4141 2 місяці тому +2

    Definitely need a scratch test!

  • @DavidAkopian161
    @DavidAkopian161 13 днів тому +1

    What was the band you had on your other apple watch? I really liked it.

    • @Mr.SVE86
      @Mr.SVE86 12 днів тому

      Nike edition band is that

  • @bigman8733
    @bigman8733 2 місяці тому +1

    It’s upsetting that they didn’t really update the hardware this time around for the ultra because I would’ve 100% picked up the black color but not enough of an upgrade compared to my series 1 so hopefully next year they make a series 3

  • @highoctaneadventure
    @highoctaneadventure 2 місяці тому +2

    This helped me decide to get an Ultra 2 instead of a 10. Being at an Apple Store and trying both on with different bands helped me decide to cancel my Ultra 2 Black order and get one in natural titanium instead. There was something about the finish that didn’t look right. An Apple employee nailed it for me, saying it took away the titanium look to the point of looking plastic.

  • @vosch8229
    @vosch8229 2 місяці тому

    Black/grey Garmin user here, this is the first apple watch that looks good.
    Don't count my view, I don't want the watch to be destroyed.

  • @harleyjames1319
    @harleyjames1319 2 місяці тому +1

    Everyone wants to know if the black scratches easily and if it is easy to see. Definitely have an opportunity for bulk view. People with love to watch it ;)

  • @stefan-u7p
    @stefan-u7p 2 місяці тому +5

    Dave can we get a fenix 8 vs ultra 2 video ?

    • @dimi-88
      @dimi-88 2 місяці тому

      Fenix 8 is crap😂There is no compare.Lot of lags garmin

    • @NickBEADG
      @NickBEADG 2 місяці тому

      @@dimi-88 Might be slightly slower but it'll never fail a task.

  • @smithersinc
    @smithersinc 2 місяці тому

    I have the original Apple Watch Ultra, and I am debating on upgrading to the newest ultra 2b

  • @lamusic3899
    @lamusic3899 2 місяці тому

    So hyped , just picked up the ultra 2 as my first apple watch!

  • @The.JZA.
    @The.JZA. 2 місяці тому +6

    Don't scratch or drag the watch behind your car. It's wasteful. Just use it and then let us know if it gets scratched from normal usage.

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  2 місяці тому +5

      It wouldn't go to waste. I'd still wear it for the next year until the new one came out lol. I just don't care about scratches.

    • @The.JZA.
      @The.JZA. 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ChaseTheSummit Fair enough 😅

  • @kzahrte
    @kzahrte 2 місяці тому

    It looks really nice in that stealthy black. But Dave, would you settle this once and for all...for every day workouts and fitness, what is better, Apple or Garmin?

  • @riccardo4134
    @riccardo4134 Місяць тому

    I think natural is more shining and looks smarter whilst the black colour is more if you wish to keep a low profile or if you like more of a casual look perhaps by pairing with a brown leather strap

  • @anthonyrampino7734
    @anthonyrampino7734 2 місяці тому

    Both colors are cool looking! Have you done a video on maps and navigation with the ultra iOS 11?

  • @SanduMalina
    @SanduMalina 2 місяці тому

    hello, I would like your honest opinion, what should I choose, Apple ultra 2 black or fenix 8? which do you think is better, more professional? Thank you!

  • @Abdullah-zl9ub
    @Abdullah-zl9ub 2 місяці тому

    Worth the upgrade from series 6? And is ultra really better than the 10? Confusing a bit

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  2 місяці тому +1

      Ultra gets more battery life, brighter screen, and generally a much more rugged build and deeper water resistance rating. Is it better? I wouldn't say that... It's different. If you want a rugged watch, Ultra. If you want a sleek smartwatch Series 10.

  • @davidkipperman5218
    @davidkipperman5218 2 місяці тому

    Did the maps / hiking without your phone with no service ever get worked out kinda like the Garmin watches?

  • @jeromegold3216
    @jeromegold3216 2 місяці тому

    Great content. Is the ultra in black, is it black or gun metal gray 🤔

  • @PQUD_
    @PQUD_ 2 місяці тому

    Think I'll stick with my Fenix 8, looks absolutely sweet though.

  • @mrjayd
    @mrjayd 2 місяці тому +2

    Dude did you just roll out of bed?😂

  • @TonyLasagna
    @TonyLasagna 19 днів тому

    I just bought the black model, it arrives Monday. Making the rounds to see what the big deal is with the Ultra 2 vs a regular apple watch (was on a series 6 with cellular/stainless that held up to quite a lot over the years). Missed opportunity folks - not getting this vidya to 500+k...

  • @pg5470
    @pg5470 2 місяці тому

    Dave, what watch do you use personally? Is it still FR 985, Fenix 9 or AWU?

  • @d1nicoya
    @d1nicoya 2 місяці тому

    Fenix 8 or U2 ?

  • @RovePaths
    @RovePaths 2 місяці тому

    It would be interesting to see the vertical oscillation & ratio plus ground contact time after the watch has had it's road 'trip'.

  • @Justyburger
    @Justyburger Місяць тому

    I think the Black looks awesome and I would buy it, if the battery life was longer. Because it isn't, I'm a Garmin wearer.

  • @the_manchovie1795
    @the_manchovie1795 2 місяці тому

    Totally do a scratch test I’m a bit skeptical of apples claim it’s more scratch resistant

    • @lambertj.2892
      @lambertj.2892 Місяць тому

      Why would he purposely put scratches in his new $800 watch?

  • @akshobramkumar5993
    @akshobramkumar5993 2 місяці тому +8

    I went ahead with natural. Looks more appealing

  • @BuzzOff.
    @BuzzOff. Місяць тому

    Black is the colour that is for sure. On my wrist watching this.👏🇦🇺

  • @aparecidosilva3034
    @aparecidosilva3034 Місяць тому

    what about the high blood pressure, do you have any idea when is coming? thanks.

  • @정성준-k8q
    @정성준-k8q 2 місяці тому

    Doesn’t the black ultra 2 show scratches more as opposed to the original u2?

  • @jswong8200
    @jswong8200 2 місяці тому

    Please test that PVD titanium case to its limits!

  • @The.JZA.
    @The.JZA. 2 місяці тому

    It looks really nice but I ain't giving Apple my $$ for a 1 year old design. I'm still rocking the Ultra 1 and looking forward to the Ultra 3.

  • @slavasss2189
    @slavasss2189 2 місяці тому +1

    Only real apple fans comparing 2 identical watches just in different colors with serious face looking for other differences

  • @louispalermo9975
    @louispalermo9975 2 місяці тому

    Id love for Apple to release a silver titanium one hopefully ultra 3 will have a silver option

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  2 місяці тому

      Isn’t the regular ultra 2 silver? 🤔

  • @robertalabi100
    @robertalabi100 2 місяці тому

    Hi nice video, I want to buy ultra 2 watch but confused which one is the best. Apart from colour difference do they have any other differences as in functions etc

  • @ashah511
    @ashah511 2 місяці тому +1

    How-many-rolex-0r-omega--or-high-end-watchs-are-black-?-Zero-prefer-the-orininal-titanuim-

  • @Dogwalkerdave
    @Dogwalkerdave 2 місяці тому

    Mine is arriving tomorrow and I’ll put up a video. If mine gets 50k views, we can destroy them together. 😂Thanks again Dave!

  • @ChrisTopheRaz
    @ChrisTopheRaz 2 місяці тому

    I just don’t understand the need for a Bezel. Would be so much better without it considering you have the titanium framing now. It seems like their reasoning is likely to continuously decrease the size over each model so that people continuously buy more watches. However, I’ll just wait until they get to what I want.

  • @tiggerlove12
    @tiggerlove12 Місяць тому

    I love the Black so much but, I don’t want to give up the OG cause it still has the Blood Oxygen on it. I wonder if it will come back.

  • @stjv123
    @stjv123 2 місяці тому

    Scratch test please, on the sides and screen… nice light compact review !

  • @slapfan1
    @slapfan1 2 місяці тому

    Me immediately rewatching this vid multiple times to see Chase The Summit scratch a watch 🤣

    • @Davedublin
      @Davedublin 2 місяці тому

      Sad !

    • @adamcurpier
      @adamcurpier 2 місяці тому +1

      Me too 😂

    • @RobertGaron
      @RobertGaron 2 місяці тому

      Only counts more than once if you watch from different devices. 😎✌️

    • @slapfan1
      @slapfan1 2 місяці тому

      @@RobertGaron good to know.

  • @UnknownExplicit
    @UnknownExplicit 2 місяці тому +1

    DRAG IT!!

  • @frombullsheaven
    @frombullsheaven 2 місяці тому +4

    Scratch it!! 😊

  • @ck8681
    @ck8681 2 місяці тому

    If not consider which color is the new one, which color do you prefer

  • @Aggie4life77
    @Aggie4life77 2 місяці тому

    Bro, it’s just an introduction to a new color! What changes were you expecting? If they are going to make changes, it will be the Ultra 3. Hell, the watch has only existed 2 years.

  • @ed0985587
    @ed0985587 2 місяці тому +1

    Looks awesome, unfortunately I had to cancel my pre-order. DC Rainmaker has a video out there clearly showing scratches on the bottom of the watch after dragging it across concrete, but then is trying to deceive people saying it is "tree fuzz" lol. When I called him out on it, he blocked me from commenting, but those are the first scratches I have seen so far. It's a great looking watch, but it's just hard to justify the money, on the black due to the scratches being more prevalent. Kind of wish they had an all black Alpine loop as an option. Good video!

    • @Phat-rj3jo
      @Phat-rj3jo 2 місяці тому

      But the bottom of the Ultra is ceramic……..

    • @Dcrainmaker
      @Dcrainmaker 2 місяці тому

      Dude, I didn't block you. I literally responded to you with an actual photo showing it the next day as perfectly clean. You can find links to that photo within the comments section (I can't post links to other profiles here). Nevermind the fact that the entire video was shot in the afternoon, yet that single clip with tree fuzz was shot around mid-day since the sun briefly came out.

    • @ed0985587
      @ed0985587 2 місяці тому

      @@Dcrainmaker And as soon as I tried to reply back, the comment was instantly deleted multiple times. It’s whatever man, I just hope you are right and being honest with people. Honesty and integrity is important when reviewing items people are going to potentially spend a lot of money on, even if that means jeopardizing your standing with X supplier of said object. A lot of people rely on you guys as content creators/reviewers to make their final decision, and the belief in your moral compass is all they have. Don’t sell out!! Cheers

  • @AlexejSailer
    @AlexejSailer 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video. Always interesting!

  • @Menudaesmiberza
    @Menudaesmiberza 2 місяці тому

    Can a plastic screen protector for the AppleWatch affect the GPS accuracy?

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  2 місяці тому

      Unlikely to affect GPS. but the Ultra doesn't really need a protector since the display is Sapphire.

  • @mikevee6992
    @mikevee6992 2 місяці тому

    I have both , the black is nicer

  • @arthurlefrancois8152
    @arthurlefrancois8152 2 місяці тому

    Hey man, I know this has nothing to do with this video but I have a question for you. I have a Garmin watch and I’m trying to figure out if I want to switch to a armband heart rate monitor I’ve been using the chest strap

  • @a.b9367
    @a.b9367 2 місяці тому

    Reviewing an Apple Watch wearing a garmin yeah I’m sold buying the garmin

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  2 місяці тому

      I wear lots of different watches! There are pro's and cons on all of them.

  • @laxbeach2381
    @laxbeach2381 2 місяці тому

    Had a Series 8 and older before. Always had mixed feelings about the ULTRA, but got this one in on Friday. Really the Series 8 is still very good, just wanted the bigger screen, and Action Button seems it can be kind of useful vs the Series X. If I had a regular Titanium in the ULTRA though, I would not have bought one. I feel next year will be a better year for these.
    Not sure about the scratch resistance vs the Titanium, but will see.

  • @DABS139
    @DABS139 2 місяці тому

    I was actually curious about the band. That’s why I clicked on this video lol So, yes I do care about the band.

  • @awall287
    @awall287 2 місяці тому +1

    What’s your normal daily driver when you’re not making videos?

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  2 місяці тому

      I'm all over the place. Sort of the nature of the beast.

  • @warddjohnson1964
    @warddjohnson1964 2 місяці тому +2

    Scratch it, Scratch it, Scratch it!

  • @baselazzam8184
    @baselazzam8184 Місяць тому

    Is this Large or Medium alpine loop ?

  • @CSXEK
    @CSXEK 2 місяці тому

    I love my Apple Watch Ultra 2 I upgraded from a series 6 and it was a massive upgrade I love that I don’t have to worry about it dieing also I love the bigger display to

  • @noamhil
    @noamhil 2 місяці тому

    Great video. You’re received my sub.

  • @DrummaBoy202
    @DrummaBoy202 2 місяці тому

    I think you cashed the trail loop an alpine loop.

  • @doneherbeweisse
    @doneherbeweisse 24 дні тому

    So where’s the indepth episode for this?

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  23 дні тому

      There's no reason for it. It's the same watch as last years Apple Watch Ultra 2 which I've already made countless videos on. This one... is just black.

  • @redcars72
    @redcars72 Місяць тому

    I actually prefer the raw titanium look.

  • @javiersotolongo1813
    @javiersotolongo1813 Місяць тому

    I have the first ultra with a black case from amazon no diferent!

  • @FREDRICKG85
    @FREDRICKG85 2 місяці тому +1

    I ordered all the black bands, but with the watch that black metal one so I have to wait till October 17 I should of got the green one I would’ve had it on release date, then ordered the metal bands separate🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @soapghost007
      @soapghost007 2 місяці тому +1

      In comes in an exclusive "ocean box" if it makes you happier. But good advice...

    • @FREDRICKG85
      @FREDRICKG85 2 місяці тому

      @@soapghost007 nice I heard they come with four different boxes. I think I seen two of them hiking and the mountains lol

  • @MyViewon_Life
    @MyViewon_Life 2 місяці тому

    Hope you get to 500.000 views, would be fun haha

  • @Miguel-x3l
    @Miguel-x3l 2 місяці тому

    I prefer the silver colour

  • @Salmo796
    @Salmo796 2 місяці тому

    Why dont you do some tests/reviews on Huawei watches like gt5 pro and so on ?

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  2 місяці тому +1

      They're not readily available or all that popular in the USA so I don't spend too much time on them.

    • @Salmo796
      @Salmo796 2 місяці тому

      @@ChaseTheSummit Thanks for replay. Keep up good work !

  • @Shaera574
    @Shaera574 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the close view video. If you want to be fair the ultra 2 doesn’t need upgrade :
    The ultra 2 has a 3000 nits , the s10 has 2000 nits
    The s10 chip is the same as the s9. The only différence is the conception. S10 chip is in 1 level while the s9 is in 2 levels
    Ultra 2 has double battery life
    Maybe in sept2025 the ultra 3 Will Gey a wide screen like the s10 but there is nothing else to expect

  • @PhuongTa-qv2ei
    @PhuongTa-qv2ei Місяць тому

    Does the black apple ultra 2 paint peel easily?

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  Місяць тому

      Nope, it's not really a paint it's a PVD (Physical Vapor Deposition) coating that's essentailly made out of carbon and bonded to the titanium that creates a diamond like scratch resistance. It's unlikely to peel but it can scratch if you hit it hard enough.

  • @Deathwish699
    @Deathwish699 2 місяці тому

    what was your band size on the watch

  • @Tha-King-Arthur
    @Tha-King-Arthur 2 місяці тому

    At least I don't have to worry about UA-cam Music with this watch... I don't have to wait 5 months like with the Fenix ​​8 lol...

  • @0mgJump
    @0mgJump 2 місяці тому

    It’s much more authentic in natural titanium.

  • @mrmazlan
    @mrmazlan 2 місяці тому

    Black is so dope..
    I just placed an order for it

  • @nicholasweeks3166
    @nicholasweeks3166 2 місяці тому

    What size trail loop band and alpine band do you use for your wrist? And what size is your wrist?

    • @ChaseTheSummit
      @ChaseTheSummit  2 місяці тому

      16.5cm wrists and I have the S/M band. Fits well.

    • @nicholasweeks3166
      @nicholasweeks3166 2 місяці тому

      @@ChaseTheSummit Thank you very much. I'm a subscriber now and will do what I can to keep your content going.

  • @srstudio2413
    @srstudio2413 2 місяці тому

    I feel like the black one look like series 9 or sth hahaha, prefer the silver one