Desert Mayhem: Inside Led Zeppelin's Controversial 1977 Arizona Concert
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2024
- The untold story of Led Zeppelin's July 20th, 1977 show and the controversy surrounding their musical performance that evening. A deep dive episode that talks about the history of the ASU Activity Center and the role of Tempe Arizona in the rock and roll circuit back in the 70s. From the acoustic passages of Black Country Woman to Achilles Last Stand fighting for their lives...this is as real as it gets, humans yes, heroes forever. A concert retrospective for the Zepp fans. #ledzeppelin #jimmypage #robertplant #johnpauljones #johnbonham #stairwaytoheaven #kashmir
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I'll take bad Zeppelin, over ANY modern A.I. generated 'rock' B.S. or miming to tapes - àla 2024! 🌞
Preach man!
Hell Yeah bruh ...... 😅
Absolutely! 👍
It's not that I disagree with you. You just sound like a fart!
Just in case, personally I love everything A.I. does.
Are we good, A. Dawg ?
They probably opted for the arena instead of the stadium, because the arena would be air-conditioned.
Tempe Arizona is oppressively hot in July.
Yes Robert, it was the best move, i'm sure they were already dehydrated constantly...
Yes, too hot to play outdoors July in Tempe, even at night. It’s an obvious choice to play indoors over heat issues with that many young people.
Right, and pushing 30, and being pushed by guv Grant: = burn out = increased chemical intake. Where the fk was Bonham's minder the day of his demise??
7 25 1980 outdoors Phoenix municipal stadium. Black sabbath, blue oyster cult, Molly hatchet. I sold 3000 hits of purple dragon blotter. It was hot took about 8 hrs at $3 a hit. Molly hatchet played and just as black sabbath started playing NIB a hug summertime desert thunder storm blew in and lots of hail lightning wind. They shut it down sent everyone home. But blue oyster came back to phx memorial collisium 30 days later when I went to exchange my ticket stub for the new concert, the tickets I traded product for from the nice girls in the parking lot were fake. The ticket lady kept my three fake stubs. They got me into the original concert I thought they were real.
Thanks Jose, I love your channel. I WAS AT THE 1977 TEMPE SHOW. I live near Sacramento CA, in 1976 a friend moved to Phoenix to attend ASU. In July of 1977 I drove down for a visit, I remember going to SEARS the week before the concert and purchasing our tickets (looking back, I can’t believe the show was not sold out, especially since they only played one night). I honestly don’t remember details, it was 47 years ago, and it was my first time seeing them play so I was mesmerized, it reminded me of the clips from The Song Remains the Same movie, inside show, with lights, the whole deal man, it was awesome. I also attended the 1977 OAKLAND Day-on-the-Green Saturday show, but it was outside, during the day, and while it was great to see the band twice in one week, the Oakland show paled in comparison to seeing the band inside at Tempe. And who knew that Led Zepplin would never return to the USA.
Hey Richard, i'm shocked that you said Oakland paled in comparison to Tempe indoors, but you know, i understand, because Zeppelin and Daylight just don't mix well. Thanks for sharing how you purchased tickets, i pictured a small movie in my head, making these is a labor of admiration for the band so having actual fans from the 70s share their impressions is very valuable! Thank you very much for watching!
So lucky!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Thanks Jose, I’m shocked that you’re shocked? Lol. Just curious, have you ever attended an outdoor-daytime concert? Given the choice, would you rather attend an indoor concert, at a venue that holds say 14k, in a controlled environment, where you’re about 75 feet from the stage, and there is a light show included? Or attend an outdoor concert, during the heat of a July day, with no shade, in a venue that holds over 50k fans, and you’re at least 300 feet from the stage, looking West, with no light show? In my opinion, having attended 4 or 5 of the Day on the Green concerts, it’s not even close. In 1977, I was 19 years old, seeing my idols play for the first time, I know you discuss the bands’ faults that night, but for me, it was like seeing God (okay, maybe not THAT big), but I was star-struck man, they could have butchered every single song, I didn’t care, because I WAS SEEING LED ZEPPELIN !!!. Keep on posting…
Oh no i definitely understand the conditions at Oakland being Hell lol, it's just the iconic status of THAT show given the circumstances. I hate outdoor gigs sound wise cause its Hard to get a proper mix unless you are Paul McCartney or Metallica with TODAY'S systems hehe.
@@richardburke7339wow what a great story! I was born in 94 so it's impossible to see their live, still I'm envious!!
Flying back to the US from India in May 1977, I got to sit with Robert and Jimmie chatting for nearly an hour at Heathrow waiting for our flight to NY. Robert even offered to carry one of my bags. They had flown back for a football match in the middle of their tour.
Wow what a story! Would love to hear anything and everything about that encounter Only if you are will to share！
That is awesome!
Also, like most of us Jimmys, Jimmy Page is with a "y", not "ie". 👍
Oh sure! Robert Plant as your personal baggage porter! What a load of BS😏
BULL$HIT!
@@TroubleToby3040 That's cuz he made the whole thing up
Thank you for all the work you put into these docs. For us Zeppelin Fans these docs include great/off nights history of the greatest Rock Band.
My Pleasure Daniel, be sure to stay tuned as i will do more of these! Thank you for watching!
The Heroin finally got to JP. It’s a miracle he made it through this horrible period.
Or maybe he just dehydrated. It can really screw anybody! Thank you for watching, stay tuned for more!
Most fans couldn't care if it was not a great Zeppelin concert. They were just happy to see their heroes even if only a few songs were done well. That is how huge they were.
The greatest band from the 70s, and these retrospectives show there was always magic at their shows, one way or the other. Thanks for watching!
So said Steven Tyler. Nice grab.
Have a great weekend JCM! Your channel is truly amazing
You Too Gabriel, thank you always!
Another great concert breakdown,Jose. I love the 77 tour, but I’ll admit I’ve never paid much attention to this show even though I’ve had a copy of it for 30 yrs. You have definitely made me appreciate it more. Love all the detail and colours you add to each episode.
On my list of shows I’d love for you to analyze are:
April 27/69
August 18/69 evening
Sept 19/70 evening
Berkeley Sept 14/71
All Japan 71 gigs
Offenburg March 24/73 (almost any 73 gig would be great…the Munich 73 episode was spot on)
New York Feb 12/75
Any LA Forum 77 gigs
Copenhagen 24/79
Honestly though, I’m addicted to live Zeppelin and I’d take any concert you decide to do because it always teaches me something new about the show.
Thanks and all the best friend.✌️❤️
Never understood the love for 4-27-69, its a great show no doubt, but the show the night before on the 26th is one of the best shows they ever played. It completely blows the 27th out of the water.
great list I agree
@@tedwojtasik8781 I’d be happy with either or. April 26th definitely takes the cake tho
Thank you for being one of the most consistent channels on the playform, always worth the time. God bless you JCM 🙏
I appreciate that! Thanks so much! My coffee maker says thank you as well!
Thanks! I love this series
Thanks for tuning in Charlie!
As a top selling act, am I playing in Tempe, AZ outrside in the middle of summer where temps easily reach 115F ? No, I'm playing the nice air conditioned auditorium. I say this having lived in Tempe for 2 years.
Hey Mike! You are right playing an A/C venue is best, the thing is because they played Oakland in daylight i think it was down to the promoters. Money always makes the world go round but yeah, glad they didn't play Sun Devil Stadium on the 20th. Always glad to read your comments man! Hope you are doing great!
I was in Tucson that summer. 116 degree days. Phoenix is always hotter than Tucson. Whose going to fry in full sun to see them?!
Those are some hot Tempe tures...
#2! Oh and an amazing video. Music and script are just unbelievable. Thank you Jose
Thanks for watching Man, much appreciated!
I was a huge Kiss fan and saw them on the Dynasty tour at the Cow Palace. A band called the rockets opened up for them. It was my first concert ever.
Born and raised in Detroit 1962 I too was a HUGE KISS fan and seen them many times at Cobo in the 70’s & 80’s and met them a few times. The Rockets were a great band from Detroit. Two of the members are the original Detroit Wheels of Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels, Jimmy McCarty ( guitar ) and Johnny “the Bee” Badanjek ( drums ) I could never understand how the Rockets never made it big unlike Kid Rock who I think totally sucks
Huh, what a coincidence. My brother and I were at that very same concert, and it was our first concert ever as well.
I saw The Rockets open for KISS on the Alive 2 tour. The following year, a band named New England opened for KISS. Both were at, the now defunct, Buffalo War Memorial Auditorium. Affectionately called "The Aud".
@@leemelone6482 Loved the Rockets but poor Dave Gilbert, their vocalist, was hopelessly coked out of his mind. He kept missing shows on tours, wouldn't show up for days, and finally dismissed from the band. He wound up being a drywall installer and died of heart failure at 42 years old,.I believe. A sad, tragic story. I knew his former gf, who was a bartender at The Southside Roxy in Toledo, where I grew up. He was a mess. Sad because he was apparently a really nice guy and I saw the Rockets dozens of times as headliners and openers. They always delivered the goods. Their cover of "Oh Well," smoked.
@@kennymik1509 he was at the 79 Ad Kiss show.,too. We drove n from Canada for it.
New Mexico here. Zeppelin never made back to Albuquerque after playing University Arena "The Pit" in 1973. No photos of this show have surficed as of yet.
Paul this is a GREAT topic, you are correct. It's quite a mystery why they never returned. Need to check it out! Thanks for watching!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Have you seen the photos that were recently found of Led Zeppelin's Salt Lake city show at the Salt Palace in 1973. I seen it on "Led Zeppelin News. It looks like Jimmy Page mostly played his cherry red Les Paul with the B bender. It was on a local news station in Salt Lake. Albuquerque was mentioned as another Zeppelin show where there is no video or photo like the show in Salt Lake.
Yes man i saw them. Fantastic stuff. Will definitely talk about this show!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I believe there is some video as well, although I am not too sure.
Very cool, thanks man...
Thanks for watching Brett! My pleasure!
Jose, thanks for shedding light on a show I only knew of the date. Very interesting on the set list and you were able to use the recordings in this. I actually loved the improve on the intro to Kashmir as Jimmy started early. Loved it !!!
Glad you enjoyed it man, it's great to know a life long fan and scholar like yourself can see a new angle in these videos. I agree, Jimmy's solo intro on Kashmir was a badass thing to do, and it works. This July portion of the tour holds a special vibe, good and bad! But it's Led Zeppelin, the greatest rock band so it works!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Always enjoy your work man top notch job always !!!
Wow. Didn't realize no "Over the Top/Moby Dick" played at Oakland. That means the final performance was in Seattle and miraculously captured on video.
That's right Joe. What a coincidence right? The very last Drum Solo!
I was at the Saturday show in Oakland. Didn't care for the set list.
Thanks Jose! I made sure to hit the like button, hehe! Cheers, from Jacksonville, FL!
Awesome! Thank you!
GREAT series of videos!
Thanks man. Tempe 1977 coming up with the stats and details ESPN style :)
NICE!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Hey have you heard of a band called La Chinga? They do a great song called Dawn of Man that borrows the No Quarter riff :)
I have nota! Need to check them out. Funny name though.
Love this channel 😍
Thanks for watching! More stuff coming up, more USA shows :)
I went to the Eagles show, also the Clapton show. Not to mention the Grateful Dead, Zappa, I lived on campus that year.
So awesome. I would have loved to have seen any of those gigs.
Thank you for not mentioning the Grateful Dead.😅
NICE.
A colorfully-articulated and enlightening break-down of a once-and-forever notorious Zeppelin break-down!..
Thanks for watching Jeff! Hope you enjoyed it!
Do one of these for April 26th 69’. Birth of Led Zeppelin II and amazing performance
Then The Replacements came along in 1979 and said "hold my beer."
Thank you for watching, stay tuned for more!
Many thanks JCM🤘✌️
Always a pleasure!
Jose: you mention the vibes of the 1977 shows; credit to you and your delivery of the content for truly accentuating these nuances🌟 When I watch these videos (usually late at night)-I truly feel like I'm back in that era; when there wasn't the internet, the ability to see performances on You Tube, check band setlists-it's that feeling of mystery; an element of danger in the air/music; major props to you for taking us back there so authentically-it is amazing to me the detail you've extracted for these videos 🏆
Mike thanks so much for your kind words. It definitley makes my day to read you feel as if you're back in that era. When i work my scripts i take my time, listen to some hit singles from this period to really get into it. Being a historian is a job i take serious :) More concert retrospectives coming up! Hope you have a great weekend!
Really doing a good job here-- kudos to my dude. Appreciate your thoroughness and insights. Thanks for your efforts...
Much appreciated! It's always an adventure making these, i'm learning a lot too!
Great vid. Thanks for the insight and breakdown. Just subscribed.
Welcome to the channel Trist805! All a labor of admiration for Led Zeppelin by a musician/fan in full documentarian mode :)
Great story telling. This was a great visual experience too.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching Daniel, stay tuned!
Fun Fact: Exactly 8 years earlier, Zep played the tented Musicarnival in Warrensville Heights, Ohio on July 20, 1969, the day it is said that the US put men on the moon…
Great sumation of this iconic band and show. Huge Zep fan in those days and I now work just mere blocks from that venue in Tempe. It sure has changed down there over the years ! Would love to see more Zep historical shows in depth !
More shows coming up, stay tuned, the Zeppelin time travel machine is ON!
I suspect the reason they played indoors was they didn't want them or their fans to be melted in 100+ degree heat which is normal for Arizona in July 😉
Yeah that could be, but hey they played Oakland in daylight so, you never know haha. Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories The San Francisco Bay is right next to the Oakland Coliseum so 100+ temps are unusual in July. Arizona not so much. BTW, I missed the '77 Oakland shows. Begged my parents to let me attend, but they didn't think it was a good event for 13 year olds to be attending 😉
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Average highs in Oakland in July are low 70s... quite comfortable!
Fantastic video- thanks! Page also returned to the ASU Activity Center on March 12, 1985, with The Firm 😎
Thanks for the info! Oh man i missed that now i wish i could re-upload this hahaha. Love it, this is the kind of data that drives me nuts!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories No worries. I just stumbled across your channel and was blown away by your methodical and insanely creative approach to Led Zep history. I’m stoked to watch more of your vids! 😎
I was lucky enough to see them in April 1977 in Bloomington.
You catched the April 12th 1977 date, Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Everyone has a dud every now and then. Still some highlights, with Trampled and Stairway. As always the Page solo spot was epic! Another great overview Jose!! Love these concert spotlights
Matt, i can't get enough of Jimmy's solo, i'm a sucker for Tape Echo and Analog Delay units, the sound of the UNIVERSE! Thanks for watching!
I was there---14 years old. I remember that Page was nearly catatonic and that the whole show was underwhelming to say the least. That said, I've never regretted going to see them, especially in light of the twin tragedies that basically ended any chances to see Zeppelin going forward.
I like that your comment speaks both the reality of the show but also how much you appreciate their music. It's quite an objective statement, thanks for sharing!
I saw Zep in Baton Rouge, La for the 1977 tour. The show started one hour late because they got stuck in traffic, but I got there one hour late myself for the same reason so it all worked out. In the early 70's I lived right on Bourbon St. in the French Quarter where Zep liked to hang out. I remember seeing Jimmy Page and Robert Plant more than one time hanging out at the Royal Orleans Hotel street side bar.
I was at the show
My condolences.
What caused the explosion?
You witnessed their last days in America, a historic date. Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories thank you very much
Who would want to play or go to an outdoor concert in 100+ degree weather? Maybe that is why they played indoors?
Haha, i know...but hey, money makes the world go round, just ask their Oakland 1977 show in daylight...Thanks for watching!
Don Henley lip syncing joke was LOL! Speaking of lip syncing, Roger Waters began lip syncing in 1980 on The Trial for The Wall shows after throwing his voice out on the first night of The Wall Tour from screaming (he pushed his voice after quitting smoking in 1975 to scream and sing higher starting on Animals and continued through The Wall, The Final Cut and his solo album The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking) and David Gilmour had to sing the last verse of "Hey You" on the second L.A. gig of The Wall. Roger got caught miming in 1984 and again in 2006 and again in 2012 and 2017. Pink Floyd played Phoenix in 1977 because of the inflatables and size of stage show on Animals got bigger.
Oh man this Roger Waters info is amazing, didn't know this. I'm thinking he mimed some parts on his last tour? I saw him live, now you make me question the show haha (i was given the ticket as a gift thankfully)- Love the Pink Floyd insights, it's really a learning curve for me. Glad you enjoyed tThe Eagles moment hahahaha. Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I’m a huge Pink Floyd fan and a huge Zeppelin fan. I’m still perturbed that some of my fellow Bay Staters (Massachusetts natives) got rowdy and trashed the old Garden approximately one year before I was born (I was born in January 1976). Lip syncing is where I draw the line (luckily I saw Pink Floyd without Waters in 1994 and David Gilmour flubbed a lyric on Keep Talking that night but his guitar solos that night were amazing and the late Rick Wright played the keyboards like he had been reborn).
Paul Stanley of KISS lip synced for over 5 years of Kiss final years.
Don Henley and Roger Waters are both jerks. Neither was even close to being the best vocalist in their respective bands. Meisner was way better than Henley and Gilmour WAY better than Waters (Wright was better too).
Great musical analysis and fascinating to get the band dynamics as they catch up to each other on the fly. Maybe a rough couple of days off in LA contributed to the occasional missteps.
I've heard most of this bootleg before, but what didn't dawn on me til now is that Bonzo and Jones were close by enough that they could jump into Kashmir so quickly. Woulda thought they'd leave the stage for at least a couple of minutes during the DADGAD solo, although I suppose Bonzo had to wait for the mallets part in White Summer so maybe he didn't actually ever leave.
Nice job as always man.
Hey Dave! That's a great observation yes. Jones and Bonzo where ready. I guess they knew this would be a short gig somehow? I like the way Page starts off with no rhythm section, it's a cool variation. These July shows have a weird vibe...Thanks for watching!
Interesting vid . Thanks
Thank you for watching. More of these coming up!
Hey JCM... fascinating look at this concert... my takeaway is that JPJ seems to be absolutely rock solid in this concert. Awesome work as always bro.
Hi Jose Sensei! 👋 This episode was very enlightening, you delved deep into the facts. I love hearing these stories that happened so many years ago, if there was a time machine I would go back to 1968 until 1980, the time that Zeppelin existed...(I would also take a brief trip to May 7, 1824 just to watch the premiere of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony…) I confess that I didn't know the details of this show, I rarely see anyone talk about it. Yes, they were acclaimed as gods but they were human, so they could make mistakes, act strangely, who ever? I would like to hear this gig in full, it has a kind of dark, perverse side, and I think it's the weirdest version of STH I've ever heard...thanks for this, Jose Sensei, I hope to see you soon 😊
(btw, regarding problems whit heat at large concerts: a few months ago, a girl died at a Taylor Swift daylight concert in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, due to the heat. My friends who live there said the temperature reached 50 Celsius, I believe this is more than 120 Fahrenheit)
Well, this had to be better than my first concert, Led Zep in Tampa, Florida on June 3, 1977. We got about 10 or 15 minutes of the band before it was rained out. They were going to reschedule the show for the following night, but a segment of the audience rioted and that was it. Zeppelin was forever banned from playing Tampa. I was 14, it was a trip
Tom you were there? Awesome. Yes Tampa seems to have been quite a rough gig Weather wise but musically they were rocking hard on Nobody's Fault But Mine. I actually like that show, i talked about it on my Making of Presence Episode 2 video! Thanks for watching!
Hey there JCM! Amazing to think of how the 1977 version of Zep is thought of as them being a poor shadow of their former selves. In my personal history of 300+ concerts that span over five decades now, I've seen ultimately great (Queen - three times) and mind-blowingly godawful (Steppenwolf - left in the middle of thte third song). I saw Zep at the Capital Centre in Landover, Maryland (20 minutes due east of DC) on Saturday, 5/28/77. Usually regarded by most of "the esperts" out there as just one of the shows that showd them finally improving a bit until they started peaking in LA late June. Me and my clan atarted late morning at my house, then got to the arena very early to party in the parking lot. Wewere all blown away overall, while still recognizing the up and down nature of the very lengthy show - the highs were supreme and unmatchable by anybody else, but yes there were real lows. I will never forget that day.
man listening to that stairway to heaven made me realize that they were actually tired of the tour, i still hope one day we'll get a release of a live album of this tour, great video JCM, very cool !!
P.S. will you make a video talking about the "listen to this Eddie" bootleg ? i think that'd be cool and to me it's one of their best recorded gigs of that tour as of now, anyway, keep it up man
Not just that bootleg but, the story of Mike Millard and how he recorded shows at the Forum.
Challenge accepted on Eddie. Will make that happen man :) Thanks for watching! I think they were tired by July indeed. The out door arenas in August was not a good idea.
Tempe AZ during the summer can and will have heat like you won't believe - especially if you're from England. Not sure what summers were like during the 70s - LOTS of construction has taken place since then with blacktop everywhere, causing heat to possibly feel worse now - but since I have been here for twenty years, July could easily be 120 degrees, with dust storms or have monsoons complete with rain, thunder and lightning. I'm thinking that kind of weather could not only be incredibly horrible for an event, but could also be dangerous for musicians and crew on the stage!
God Bless!
Oh man, black roads you mean? It's like this here where i live and yeah, it makes the heat much worse. I can't imagine these thunderstorms you mention, when they happen you gotta take cover, really! It was dangerous for them at Tampa 1977, there were thunderstorms going on in close proximity, it's a miracle it didn't happen while they were playing or hit someone at the stadium. You're right that the summer is not the best for English musicians, but hey, they seem to enjoy it to some degree, maybe the thought of COLD winters made them stand it? ....and money. Thanks for watching!
I was in Arizona that year, though in Tucson. 116 degree heat during the day. It was searing! Phoenix is always hotter than Tucson.
Maybe they didn’t play the stadium because it is the desert in the middle of the summer.
a bad Zeppelin show is still better than all the auto tune, lip syncing and voice over tracks thats called"live" today
And better than Don Henley's live singing nowadays....
I also saw Robert Plant in 1983 during his “Principle of Moments Tour”, it was here in Northern California at the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Arena, I remember Phil Collins played the drums but never sang a note (I kept watching for him to sing, but he did not even have a microphone). I also saw Jimmy Page in 1983 at San Francisco’s Cow Place for a Ronnie Lane ARMS Concert (for Multiple Sclerosis Research). Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck also played, I thought Page tried to be two “technical” playing all these super exotic chords, instead of just jamming. Keep on posting…
Thursday 28th July 1977 was my 8th birthday & yes, I grew up to be a massive Led Zep fan lol
I have a photo of the flash explosion from the show. My friend snuck in a 35mm camera and it was one of the only photos that turned out.
Wow! Could you share it with the community? You can watermark it and share it :)
That was a killer set list. But then again how could Zep ever not have a killer set list?
Right? So hard to add songs to their killer set! Thank you for watching, stay tuned for more!
Thank you, Jose! This is a show I've only heard once..so I was happy to sit through it in good company this time round!
I know not everyone agrees, but I'm a big fan of the '77 tour. Maybe cos it had more albums from which to choose setlists, plus it gave us Eddie (looking forward to a deep dive there at some point-mainly cos My Man was on absolute fire that night!) and Badgeholders , actual video in Seattle, and the notorious Oakland. The Game of Thrones of LZ tours, if you will 🐉
This show is definitely chaotic and scrappy although some of the gaffs did make for interesting results -would love to have seen JPJ/ Bonzo's WTF faces when Jimmy launched into Kashmir early! Achilles wasn't so much a 'last stand' as an 'already defeated' , but that quiet fading out in STH seemed very appropriate given the way the show ended.
There’s another show that I always found interesting, the show in St.Paul Minnesota on July 9th, 1973. Bonzo sounds like he’s on qualudes and Jimmy sounds like he’s pissed or laughing at Bonzo and mocking him but at the same time leading him. It’s not a bad show either , I enjoyed it. Check it out.
I need to revisit the St. Paul show, 1973 is a place i'm obsessed with since a teenager. Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Yes. You can first tell Bonham maybe on something on No Quarter but the interplay between him and Jimmy is so cool. It’s like Jimmy’s keeping him together, the timing is off but entertaining. Jimmy was either pissed or taken a qualude himself lol. The end part of the show is hilarious but entertaining. I applaud them just for getting through it and still make the whole thing interesting. Page pulls off some amazing dynamics. The audience loved it.
What an interesting story!
Fun fact: The tour plane was actually a Boeing 720. United ordered this Boeing plane after ordering DC-8s and persuaded Boeing to designate it differently from the 707. It WAS an outgrowth of the 707 but airline politics of the day won out and the Boeing 720 was created. 154 were eventually built for airlines worldwide. See my other comment for further reading.
I believe you and this is a great topic. Most references i've seen through the years state this as a 707. So was it a custom 707 that ended up being a 720?
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories United Airlines didn't want to be seen as "back pedaling" by ordering competing 707s after already ordering DC-8s. At that time (late 50s) these were the first long-range (coast-to-coast) jet airliners being offered by sale in the USA and competition for orders was very fierce. Airlines were eager to replace their maintenance-heavy piston-engined airliners with these new-fangled jet airliners. Boeing was ahead of Douglas in the race to the jet age regarding airplane availability and sales. Fascinating chapter in commercial aviation history. United was looking for a shorter-range airplane to also replace piston-engined airliners in shorter-range service to supplement the forthcoming DC-8s. The Boeing model that became the 720 was originally the 707-020...a slightly smaller, lighter weight version of the available 707-120. It was still being developed. Boeing's other eventual 707 models were the -220, -320 , and -420. Simply put, differing in engine choice, length, and flying range. The "20" designation was Boeing's internal designation and was replaced by the 2-digit customer code. So 21=Pan Am, 22=United, 23=American, etc. Boeing capitulated to United and the 707-020 became the 720-020. The specific airframe in question was part of the United Airlines order and was designated a 720-022. The 720 was a successful airliner during the 60s but was eventually replaced by less fuel-thirsty shorter-ranged airplanes like the 3-engined 727 during the early 1970s. Some lasted into overseas airline service in the 1980s and a couple soldiered on into the 2000s as engine testbeds, one in Canada and one in Phoenix, Arizona.
In the 20-teens there was actually a plastic model kit available of this tour aircraft along with other versions for Elton John and the Bee Gees. They were relatively expensive ($40) maybe...wish I had picked one up. Still available online, search "Roden Boeing 720"...the kits are out there. At least you can see photos of the kits that were available.
$8.50 to see Zeppelin! Jesus, can you imagine?
Incredible right? And nowadays we have Don Henley singing live....charging what, 500 bucks? lol.
I saw them in Greensboro, NC a couple of months earlier. I'll have to say, musically, they were a little unsatisfying. Robert's still recovering from laryngitis voice, rushed tempos, and Jimmy's cello bow mostly. (Also, Greensboro is the same venue I saw The Who in a year and half before. Still my #1 concert memory) No Quarter and Achilles' were the best tunes.
Fair enough, i take your recollection serious. The warning signs were there. I think the tour was VERY long and if they continued into August, i sense another form of tragedy happening. But yes, The best band from the 70s! Thanks for watching!
Yo dude I appreciate your work the content is crude but authentic led Zeppelin another great band you know I love the stones they're a great band that's been working their ass off for 60 years now with that said we've got Zeppelin that probably probably worth 15 we only saw 10 of them and they're rocking just as hard as today as they ever did Johnson Jason is one Kick-Ass drummer long live rock
Thanks for watching! This band is all about dedication. I like studying there craft from many angles!
Amazed they played at ASU activity center after having played Seattle Kingdom the show before. Activity center is 14,000 cap for a basketball game; with part of the venue used for the stage I would think it was maybe around 10K... amazingly small venue to see Zeppelin in at that point. I saw Tom Petty there in '87 right after someone tried to burn his house down, (he mentioned it from the stage) Georgia Satellites & Del Fuegos were opening... I can't imagine seeing Zep in such a relatively small room. The Sun Devil stadium right beside is famous for many historic concerts: the Stones twice: "Honky tonk women" filmed for "Let's Spend the Night Together" doc, and Bridges to Babylon tour where they accidently set it on fire with Pyro. U2 also famously played there as documented in Rattle & Hum and also this is the stadium where Bob Dylan gave his religious diatribe about Kiss and their audience being cast into the fiery pits of Hell. That "Achilles Last Stand" was an embarrassing train wreck of epic proportions... I don't think it was entirely the flashpot that had Jimmy "Dazed & Confused".
Yes, Tempe was a small gig really after the Kingdome, quite the contrast right. You saw Petty in 87' wow so cool. I need to check the Stones gig you mention, do you know if there's a boot recording? Oh man i didn't knew about Dylan!!! What! Jimmy maybe have been Confused, but let me tell you, after listening to all the Achilles versions from 1977 for my Presence episode, the lights really knocked him out. I bet his eyes were quite sensible to brightness you know? it was 1977 after all...Thanks for watching!
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Glad you enjoyed this one! Thanks for watching!
I remember reading Billboard back in the day and surprisingly, yet not that surprised, Neil Diamond was one of the biggest draws for years. Another band that was a huge touring draw back then that’s not mentioned as much as they maybe should be is ZZTop. They may have become more commercially famous in the ‘80s, but as a touring band, they were mighty huge in the ‘70s, especially in the south obviously.
Neil Diamond yes, he crushed it on sales ticket. ZZ Top like you said were huge, unfortunately it's not as visually documented as we would like. This is a good topic for a video actually, early day ZZ Top, they rocked hard. Funny how they became "famous" until 1983's electronic sound, i mean these guys were killer players for almost a decade by then!
I attended this performance in Tempe AZ. I had written accounts of this show on various Zeppelin forums of which I can hear references of in this video. I do notice one thing that is wrong here. In 1975 Zeppelin was not scheduled to play ASU's Sun Devil Stadium. Instead, they were booked for the Tempe Diablo Stadium on August 27th 1975. Robert Plant's car accident in Greece canceled this show. The correct venue is well documented in the excellent Dave Lewis book 'Evenings with Led Zeppelin', the revised and expanded edition.
Hey Ed, that's great stuff you were actually at the venue for this show. As far as the 1975 date, there are promoter records that state Sun Devil as the chosen stadium. If you have Tempe Diablo Stadium that opens up a new door of speculation because there seems to be a mismatch of official notes. Your suggestion makes sense but the one thing that makes me think is the capacity at 9558. But of course we can trust Dave Lewis, but again....the capacity at Tempe Diablo doesn't add up you know? HeheThank you for watching, stay tuned for more!
The seating for Tempe Diablo Stadium is correct for baseball capacity in the stands. You also need to figure in the field capacity for a concert as well. The stadium held many concerts in the 1970s. Including Grand Funk Railroad, which I attended in 1975. The tickets for the canceled Zeppelin show read Tempe Stadium with the address located at 48th street between Broadway and Southern Avenue, not ASU Sun Devil Stadium. I have the ticket if you wish to see it.
I think Ed is correct about Diablo stadium. Its a little baseball stadium, but they can put people on the field as well as the stands. In 1988 I saw Pink Floyd at Phoenix Muni Stadium which is an equally small stadium not far from Diablo. We sat on the lawn and it was a fantastic show. The various cities used to do a lot of shows at the little stadiums but not so much anymore.
@JeffDosch I have a picture of the ticket from this show and it clearly has the location of Diablo Stadium on it. I saw Grand Funk there a few months before on June 22nd 1975
@JeffDosch footnote when concerts were held at Diablo, it was dubbed 'Feyline Fields', no doubt referring to concert promoter Barry Fey.
I saw the show at the Forum in June.
You witnessed some of the BEST moments!
The Grateful Dead played in Tempe on my birthday in 1992 🌹
Saw those 2 shows
July 20 th outside? Too damn hot!
Yeah, it's a wild move, but hey....they played Oakland with daylight so you never know!!
I recommend you visit Tempe, AZ in July.
I refute that, I saw Page/Plant in 1995 at the Spectrum in Philly!
what a great tour to witness!
Actually the April, 1975 Pink Floyd show wasn't the "Wish You Were Here" tour (there was no "Wish" tour), it was the end of a very extended "Dark Side" tour.
While i understand what you mean, in context, it was Wish You Were Here the album they promoted and i've also seen several entries under this category. The music though, i can sure say it was an extended Dark Side of the Moon intention yes. Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I was at the opening night of a five-night stand at the L.A. Sports arena and in all the advertising leading up to the shows there was no "Wish" references-only "Darkside". They did however play two or three songs that would eventually be on "Wish" under different names.
I was at the Floyd show, they started with wish you were here and then did Dark side and maybe Echoes at the end for an encore but it was a show to behold one of the best shows I've ever been too and I was at the 77 Led Zeppelin concert in Tempe
Wow , I was so lucky to see them on Sun July 24th the very last ZEPPELIN U S CONCERT...we had tix for both Sat an Sun Oakland shows but gave the 4 tix for Sat show away to my sister in law...JUDAS Priest opened followed by bRick DERRINGERS new band DERRINGER THEY WERE AMAZING... EXACTLY 1 YEAR LATER JULY 78 THE ROLLING STONES STOPPED BY ON MICKS BIRTBDAY, WHAT A SHOW , Peter Tosh from Marleys band opened followed by Eddie Money and then a killer set by Santana.. I remember Richard's hired a helicopter to fly over the crowd and they dumped thousands of cooled p.o. g long balls and a few blow up women dolls came flying out...great times
Many bands played Phoenix' Veteran's Memorial Coliseum, just 15 miles away from the ASU Activity Center as well...
Yes you are 100% correct. Queen, Pink Floyd, Peter Frampton and Rush played that venue in 1977. Phoenix was a busy place, the ASU Activity Center had TOUGH competition. Thanks for watching!
Yup..saw Poco, Yes, Bowie and JoJo Gunne there in the 70's.
The review of Grateful Dea, in the middle of the one time in their careers where they were all in tune and sounded fantastic, get panned. lol
I love live Dead from 71-77. The band was amazing during this period. Some of my fav live shows ever.
All the context of other concerts played at the venues is wonderful.... don't let anybody tell you any differently.🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you! It's always a challenge embarking on these and your comment is much appreciated! More concerts coming up!
I was there as well @richardburke7339. I couldn't believe I was able to get a ticket. I remember being disappointed when they started the show 2 hours late. It was well worth the wait. I sat 2nd tier stage left (Jimmy's side). Hope all is well!
Cheers to you for witnessing a historic show despite the bad stuff! Thank you for watching, stay tuned for more!
I saw a bunch of the 75 and 77 tour shows. Even though I was 14 and 16 at the time there was definitely a difference behind the scenes. Even now I don’t drink and never tried drugs. From what I saw there were people sort of like gangsters or bullies present in 77. I attended 2 of the Texas shows, all of the Garden and Forum shows. I was at my uncle car museum and missed the Seattle and this Tempe show but did attend the first Oakland show where all hell broke out backstage. I left the next morning and missed the second show which under the circumstances I’m glad I did because I had a feeling that something was not right.
maybe it was this gig or another in oklahoma but, it was a funny sort of boot. plant wasnt singing all his lines and maybe the others were obviously not taking this show too serious at all. its still gold, they can do no wrong.
Nice blouse, Robert!
Rockstar fabric hahah
26:11 😅😅😅😅 The funniest part for sure. "Take their girlfriends, or meet someone special..." GREAT episode man, thanks so much.
Haha you got it! I just thought, geez, what a double feature that was, no way i'm going to THAT Rod and Air Supply show hahahah.
My friends and I had tickets for the upcoming JFK show on that tour. What a huge bummer when it was canceled. I'm so very happy I got to see them on their 75 tour though. I truly believe Pages messing around with black magic had everything to do with the tragedies and their fall. We can only imagine what great music they would have made if Bonham hadn't died and Jimmy and Bonham cleaned up their act. Very sad indeed.
16:15 Nice touch 😅🤙
I was there, 6th Row center right.
Page arrived at show and fell out of limo when they opened the car door. I couldn't get into the music, so disappointing, damn! The show was so hyped, was expecting Godhead. My Senior year at ASU. Jimmy had a bottle with him during whole show. He played too fast and it sounded sloppy. It was the re-scheduled show to summer, meant less students there and 110f, my luck. Still love them though❤.. Was disappointed no encore, but I think they had had it and were ready to split. (Damn! I took many pictures of show, especially of their acoustic set, but lost them over the years, damn!!)
Your Senior year at ASU wow! From your recollections it seems it was a decadent affair by some of the bandmates state? Oh so this happened during spring break for college? Interesting. The NO Encore thing was rough, i can only imagine what you guys thought. I would have been angry for 1 day tops haha. Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Thanks for reply and love your shows. Zepp fan. FYI, as you know, summer in Arizona is bruttally hot: 110f+plus 3 months a year, nights cool to 90f at 5am 🥵. Most out-of-state students go back home after semester end May 15th to Chicago or East Coast to escape the heat, luck for me, could get good tickets. ❤️ Keep up the good work!
Thanks man! Now let me ask you? How the hell did you guys manage to sleep with "cool" temperatures of 90F hahaha. Thats a bigger challenge than playing Achilles!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Air Conditioning...Life saver (and lots of drugs and cold beer 😉) Looking forward to your Vienna 👍
I dont handle myself well in such weather. My respects to you. Vienna has a lot of surprises :)
I saw the band 2 times.Once in LONG BEECH The How The West Was Won Concert and the LA Fourm show in 74? also worked with Page and Plant in Oakland and heard ALL about the bad time before when they were there lol
You saw Long Beach, wow that's sick, lucky indeed! Oakland yeah, it was bad blood and blood...lots unfortunately. Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories haha i Remember them singing BlueBerry Hill
I don’t think they did any shows in 74 - could be wrong
@@timmillan6701 73 YES I was still in High school Sorry
Long Beach Arena should never been torn down,I’m Canadian but know the history of that building and the band’s who have played there but I know buildings get old n they want to build bigger venues for more money
Crazy what some heat can do to you if you don't live it in 24/7.
We just got our first heat wave here in Connecticut and I've been off my game all week.
Plus I'm sure the firecrackers and exploding lights didn't help matters.
when I seen them in indy 1975 they were sloppy still awesome seeing one of my fave bands live.
1975 was a complicated year, i find it the hardest touring year for many reasons.
My brothers had tickets to zeppelin show in chicago at Chicago stadium in October 1980 unfornately Bonham died in September canceling that show my brother kept the tickets for years
That sucks, i can only imagine the feeling....the world lost the greatest rock and roll band of the 70s that day :( Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories yeah they where crying for days not to mention that Bonzo was dead
Jonesy sang high backing vocal on acoustic set. jimmy added his voice some as well.
A pair of virtuosos! Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories all those boots you hear jonsey belting out he parts. he was as hard working as any of them. it must have been a competition. whos more professional. lol
The echo chamber in Seattle was the King Dome not the Kingdom!
Dome is one of those words than we you're narrating can sound like Dom, i always try my best at this. English is not my first language but Zeppelin is my favorite band :) Thanks for watching!
Even “bad” LZ is an interesting study to those that have followed them 50+ years. Remarkable.
Nothing is fun,when it's that hot,how could something be hotter than Zeppelin anywhere?
Maybe Mahavishnu Orchestra? hehe
Nice episode JCM. My personal affinity for the 77 tour is rather minimal. Though there are moments of "brilliance"...I find most of it to be a stark portrait of a great band and individual musicians (Page and Bonham) in their metaphorical and literal "death throes." It is only because of their talents they were able to perform thru their massive and debilitating addictions and physical limitations. It has been stated that Page never ate any solid food on this tour, and tho perhaps an exaggeration, his 11 inch "biceps" speaks to a man with serious health issues. The "fire-breathing" days of effortless playing are distant memories here. For me, nearly every note sounds strained and labored. Also, possibly being blinded by a stage pyro, would be the only acceptable excuse for this terrible performance of ALS. Ultimately most all of the 77-80 shows make me sad, as for the most part, all I see/hear is how Jimmy squandered his talent and ability in favor of whatever "demons" he chose to immerse himself in. My favorite concert years are 68-73. Past that, its a case of diminishing returns for me. But hey...thats me. to each their own.
It's a long way to the top if you wanna Rock & Roll!
When I saw Zeppelin in Mpls, I think in the same year it was at the Met Center & the acoustics were horrible.
I would not have missed it, nor do I regret how poor the sound was.
Wish I would have brought binoculars! 🐉
Was the sound bouncing too much Marty? It was a tough job for the soundcrew, technology was still behind the band's capabilities. This is why their studio albums were so important to carry their message! Thanks for watching!
I find the description of the music so adequate and helpful as the quality of the recording is typical 70 s bootleg 😄 ... I paid a 100 quid for a double LP bootleg in 1988 and it wasn't half as good
Glad you enjoyed my commentary on the recording. Developing "bootleg ears" is a skill right? We collectors know. Tempe has always fascinated me.
Great analysis. Extremely sympathetic, takingninto account the possibility of excessive substance intake [2 out of the 4?] to a pretty dire performance. Imagine paying good money for that.... JPJ the only one to come out with any musicap credit that evening..
Sympathetic maybe, i just know that playing shows takes a toll on you, can't imagine a massive tour like this. Even if you take out substance from it....man it's soul crushing to say the least. The guys from Metallica have mentioned this, money is never enough compensation.
Tucson and Tempe are well over 100 miles apart, and Tempe has Phoenix nearby.
Thanks for the info and for watching!
Love 2 hear ya break down DEUS EX MACHINA dude. Probably my No.1 Zep show 🌞
I need to check that March 21st, 1975 show. Seattle was always a second home for Zepp! Thanks for watching!
You forgot Deep Purple "come taste the band " tour in Tempe 1975.
That was at Diablo Stadium
If ever there was a band that would have benefited from better/ modern visual and sound production techniques and equipment…such a missed opportunity.
Led Zeppelin carried a lot of weight on their shoulders. They kept some sanity within the camp by keeping doors closed...the more i look into it, i believe it was the best call to keep the Legend status intact. Thanks for watching!