Kenyon Martin Reveals his Deep Hate for Chris Paul
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- Kenyon Martin do we Sleep on Chris Paul because he isn't Flashy? (2018 NBA PLAYOFFS
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“He’s a politician, and people don’t like politicians”
Couldn’t have said it better
He said trust not like, but yes it was a perfect statement
Same for Russell Wilson
I wouldn’t trust anyone who’s a politician
Those type of people are the worst there is
Trump 2024 😂😂
Colin has trouble understanding because he’s also that same guy that Chris Paul is
You are probably right about that. I have heard that Paul was disliked because he took cheap shots at people's junk.
Exactly
😂😂😂
😂
Facts
“Deep hate” was an exaggeration. He simply didn’t like nor trust him.
@Grimjow it's sad but talk to any creator, if you don't click bait or make 1 of like 5 styles of thumbnail your views TANK. same thing with saying "like and subscribe" in every video. Most creators don't like doing it, but it makes a MASSIVE difference in getting picked up by the algorithm and getting views.
I’m more interested in who he didn’t hate. Probably a shorter list too
It’s also an exaggeration to think many people care what a mid retiree thinks of a legend
Chris Paul isn’t a winner either
I don’t blame him
these hosts think their opinions hold more weight than players
And i can tell in the subtle talk he think he higher up
Yea like that bald forehead Steven A. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
especially stephen and skip ... cant stand those fools
@@ryzonnathan1491 Facts ! Straight Up A##$$holes !🤔
Keep that same energy when it’s Ryan Jillian’s or someone saying dumb shit
Kenyon Martin a real one for saying "I'm in about winning. I'm never been in to how many point or whatever to tell me things did we win or not. I don't need numbers or no plus/minus to tell me if I played well or not" that's some real ass shit and someone that you want to be on a team with
Painful...but point understood.
There are players who are impactful even if numbers don't show it . There are very good players with good statistics but can't make their team to victory
@@michaelconner1771 I kinda like the way he paraphrased it.
@@ericsonwee3099
You are so on point 😊
I couldn’t have agreed more
Stats are okay in a way but if it doesn’t help your team win then what’s the point
A whole bunch of ball players in the NBA putting up enpty stats
Nobody is going to see this, but Kenyon is making a great point here regarding assists. We always like to call players who average a high number of assists "unselfish", but the player getting the assists gets credit for the assists in terms of accolades and salary.
Yea it's the eye test of how those assist are being achieved. That's his point. There's all this analytics but if you're not watching HOW those numbers are being obtained in the game then you're missing an entire dimension of the realm of competing.
A point guard like Chris Paul doesn't pass early on possessions, he sets up the offense and decides where and when the field goal attempt will happen. Players like LeBron, Chris Paul, James Harden, they have that style. They want to orchestrate every offensive move while they're on the floor. Then you have point guards like Steph Curry who are willing to give up the primary ball handler spot to the 2 guard or to another ball handler and go off ball with his movement. That creates a whole different dynamic on the court. He's more willing to let other guys make plays. For better or worse. Each style has strengths and weaknesses
I've only ever heard that negatively with Rondo. I heard her passes up layups just to make an extra pass and get assists to pad his numbers. I used to watch a lot of Jeremy Lin clips though, so I know an "assist" can be a bit glorified sometimes. Like if you pass the ball to someone and they iso and score in a couple of seconds, they consider it an assist. I remember Rodman got a triple double once cuz he passed the ball to MJ and he immediately don't a turnaround jumper.
@@Go21place 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Tripel Double Westbrook best example
@@aznnp77 they made the smart play and got the ball to those guys in thier spots.you get those passes where a guy throws the ball behind u.or flings it way over the backboard or will throw it to trae young diving the rim with giannas and ad waiting on him...
If Kenyon wasn’t interrupted after every sentence, this interview could have been great. There is a difference between navigating the conversation and then pushing a narrative. Just shut up and let your guest speak his piece.
was lookin for this comment.
Exactly this guy talks well by himself but can't interview well
THANK GOD for podcasts now 😂
Bro he interrupted him as soon as he walked in Smfh
Facts. He def was doing more pro analytics and defend Chris Paul rhetoric than simply allowing the conversation to flow
I still watch this in 2023 and K Mart still has a Point! AND ITS STILL PROVEN!💯💯
Basically, the locker room snitch and front office stooge.
Lmfaoo. He pretty much said that without saying it
Finally! Someone from the NBA who speaks on his faults. If you dont watch the games, you think he is the greatest PG of all-time. Watch him, hes great! But, there this something to the game that he doesnt do. What my coach said, "you gotta pass the ball with love". You got to want your teammate to do good! CP just seems he wants it his way, and then when it matters, he needs help big time
Felt that way about that Busta Stockton. People ain't hear em speak to this Gonzaga situation and now they been on his head lol. Great player no doubt but that muthafucka never was beyond reproach. I called that hoe out and it is what it is yell
I wouldn’t trust Chris Paul either
This is the best take on how you need to work together with those with experience and combine analytics. A lot of people are too focused on one or the other
Fans dont like Chris Paul. We cheer everytime he gets bounced from the payoffs. It seems like the analysis are the only ones that give him respect like that. Dirty player
K Mart should be on radio or TV as an analyst
I lost respect for CP when he denied Curry access to the gym to get up shots before a close-out game between GS and Houston in the WCF. Curry ended up taking over the game and the Dubs ended up going to the Finals.
Curry and Paul are actually cool in real life.
@@jackriver1999 they used to be, but that friendship is strained.
@@cosmonaut9942 bruh stfu you don’t know them
smh has this been confirmed??...stop taking everything u hear and running with it
@@kgthoughts Why don't you look it up? You got google don't ya fuck boy?
colin isnt an analytics guy anymore lmfao this guy changes every week
"LEBRON COULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN SPORTS" 5yrs later that hits different
Facts
Could easily watch sports without even thinking about lebron
He’s not the only one. A lot of players expressed their frustration with cp3
*“The Greatest Player To Never Win A Ring”* is an extremely under-shadowed achievement, just ask Chuck
More like a back handed compliment
@@MrFaqiryar1 💯 facts
I feel him we been saying this for 25 years
Man he made a great point about having the conversation
I like K-Mart when he's not angry.
ridiculous to use the term "Deep Hate" - Kenyon was not disrespectful and just answered questions. They should go back and change the title.
Not sure you can trust Kenyon's analytics after hearing the following (paraphrased):
Kenyon: I'm an eye test type of guy
Colin: I'm 75/25 analytics vs eye test. what about you?
Kenyon: I'm 50/50
How I understood it, Kenyon was saying that he values analytics and the eye test equally, but from his background, as a former NBA player, he understands and contribute with the eye test. From what he is saying, he needs someone else that can find and dig thru the data to bring the analytics to the table, so that there could be a conversation. Keep in mind, he was interrupted multiple times throughout this interview, so we don't have the full picture.
This title is so misleading, he NEVER says HE dislikes Paul, he consistently states Paul was not popular by the "other 14"
I've seen many much more misleading titles. Clearly Martin didn't/doesn't like Paul much.
If you think someone is sneaky then you aren’t likely to like nor trust them.
Wow I remember I watch this live it seems like it was last year but it was 2018 time flys
Kenyon brings up a great point that’s missed with high assist players. Some of them only give up the ball when they think they can get credit for the assist. They don’t allow players to cook in isolation and don’t allow the ball to swing around to the best available shot. They hog the ball until they can get credit. Eg. Triple double Westbrook
Lmao go watch Russ play he’s unselfish he’s just aggressive. CP is just an old school floor general
Lebron did that his whole career but only westbrook gets hate for it
It’s crazy this is 5 years ago and CP3 is still playing
Great conversation, nature (eye ball) vs nurture (analytics)
Chris Paul is doing better in the latter part of his career because hes not being asked to be the number one guy and a 20 and 10 player. With the Thunder and Suns, it's more than him being part of a "Big 2" like he was in his prime. The Thunder stint was as impressive as his Clippers years and he's flourishing with the Suns because he's with talents like Booker and Ayton, not to mention other players who can finish plays.
Nah Kenyon was right even in that’s finals against the bucks he had too many bad turnovers trying to create a play .. took the ball out of Dbook hands at key moments
He will never win a a championship
Never seen this but great job K Mart...what gets lost in a lot of this is I wanna hear from the someone who played....then if you are successful it's a bonus....K Mart is literally the perfect person to talk to
Chris Paul definitely has a Napoleon complex. He’s tiny and it shows in the playoffs defensively he gets exposed. For years he would create the most ridiculous flopping fouls especially just stop running with a defender right behind him on the break and they both fall down automatic call. Also he would not grab the ball out of another guy’s hands after the play was dead but truly snatch it. Just a lame move. But he’s had a very good regular season career and a couple of decent post season series recently. You have to give him that.
he a taurus ox - just like Hitler Saddam Huessain - niccolò machiavelli
I’m still waiting to see the “deep hate”
The titles on UA-cam are a stretch.
Kenyon: "I'm more eye-test than analytics. I'm 50/50."
Yeah, definitely more eye-test...
This is an underrated post. lol
@@loscoolarrows5903 no it's not. He's just nitpicking over semantics to ignore the point because he can't understand it
He said you need a mixture of both and he’s more eye test than analytics.
@@dkmrap1 just having fun with a funny quote, which you took far too seriously. I'm guessing because you don't get / can't understand levity?
@@thestylemind4922 right, so that wouldn't be "50/50," which makes the quote mildly amusing.
Collin doesn’t belong in the same wrong with a legitimate NBA player like Martin.
Dennis Rodman…. Enough on analyzing players…20 rebounds 5 points….. couldn’t have done it without his contributions….
Analytics loves Dennis rodman
I’m sorry, the eye test will always be better than the analytics
Colin Cowherd has never played basketball, thinks it should be 75/25... LOL . You do know you can't just simulate the game like a 2k season and have the team with best averages win. That's not how it works and that's why he's a talk show host and not a coach.
Kmart best voice in the bizz
Lebron does the same thing lol.
He plays for stats and forces franchises to put elite players around him who can create their own shot off the dribble to bail him out when the statpadding isnt winning them games.
Then when they win, Lebron gets the credit because the media is stupid and they worship statlines instead of actual on court play.
Bingo
I don't know why but I could listen to this guy all day. Coolest voice and brutally honest.
That’s a fact. His interview about guarding Tim Duncan was amazing.
Pause
Cowherd is clueless about 🏀 every time he has a guest that knows 🏀 he embarrasses himself. Colin should stick to 🏈
If you've never played in an NBA game, shut up. Who cares if you're an analytics guy. A former player is trying to educate you.
I agree with the sentiment that statistic fanatics are obnoxious, but your comment warrants the obvious: players disagree themselves.
I pose this question: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has one of the highest basketball IQ’s of any player in the NBA history. He made the remark that Oscar Robertson is the best point guard of all time - better than his teammate Magic Johnson. He played with them both. He knew them both intimately. He watched Oscar. Does that mean we should listen to Jabbar and elevate Oscar in the all-time discussion?
facts bro 💯
That includes you, so STFU
@@raypetree9372 Kareem’s full of sh*t and doesnt have anywhere near the best IQ of the game lol.
Play the game to win first then study the analytics after. Don't go into the game thinking "I need 12 assist win or lose then coach won't be on my ass"
Does anyone remember Colin Herd before he became a caricature of a 1950s baseball radio announcer? (Me either)
K-MART IS SPOT ON !!!!!!
he wants to try and be a Commissioner of the NBA or he’s trying to meet and greet an be kind to as many coaches and front offices so he could be a head coach or try to own a team.
People hate what they don't understand. Most players are short sighted and don't know how to build bridges to furure their careers.
Kenyon seems locked in a box(mindset) and a bit jealous. This is likely why his career didn't go better. He shouldn't talk "championships" and "winning"... because he really never did.
he won conference finals, still more than CP3
Stop glazing.
Chris Paul is better than a lot of players and he lets them know in their face he’s also the captain of the players association so he speaks for the players in those meetings they don’t like that and he does it on purpose because who tf are y’all to tell me what to do when I’m better than you and you’re on drugs which was most likely the case Chris Paul was telling on players doing dirt
Same kinda stuff pat bev said
Why are they trying to make it seems like a analytical guy is on the damn basketball court his self playing? Analytics is nothing new, it was always part of a coaches decisions, without having a word for it! It was basically more organic back then and was called a coaches instinct, from a players fg percentage or free throws at certain times of the game, or certain area’s a player may shoot from with a better fg percentage, or a shot taking with a certain defensive player defending the shot, or more simply put Jordan will either make the shot, or pass it to Paxson or a Steve Kerr type shooter, who has a good fg percentage from the 3 point line, than Jordan shooting a well defended two point shot, out of a double team! He didn’t pass it to Scottie for that last second shot, he knew he just needed a sharp shooter on his team! That’s called common sense” and without a analytical guy to tell him to past that game winner or game tying shot! Back then it was called, Jordan needing a sharp shooter like Paxson or Steve Kerr! Lol , Common sense didn’t need analytics to tell him, not to let Dennis Rodman take the last shot!
i got an analytic killer.. by numbers kobe is considered one of the most inefficient shooter.... case closed, cuz he's top 3 greatest of all time
Curry looked fantastic in game 7 against Dallas .Really stepped up like a true superstar .
？？Mutiple universe?
in our universe, it never went to game 7. Are you sure bro? lol
Sounds like hes describing lebron with the assist stuff...
So Chris, Paul was treating his teammates Like most men treat The women that they are in relationship with
These analytical nerds put such s big emphasis on +/- lol. So if im on the floor carrying my team scoring, rebounding, defending but my 4 teammates cant make a shot, giving up easy baskets and my +/- is -14 but is in no way indicitive how ive performed individually despite my teammates being failures. K-Mart is correct.
Kmart ain't carry nothing..... but was the number 1 pick.
Thanks KM!!! Numbers don’t mean shit!!!! Did you win or loose? Numbers have destroyed the league. It has put less talented people in power positions when it’s not really deserved! KM, lived your game since Cincinnati!!!
The point guard in Basketball is that of a quarterback in football. You can't get have an opportunity to score without them passing you the ball
Except that it's not because all 5 players should be passing the ball not just one.
@@user-dc7um4pr3f But like the Quarterback it's the Point Guard that facilitates the play.
People fail to realize assist can be ball hog because u need the ball in your hands like James harden he gets assists because he hog the ball not in the flow KD 6 assist is in the flow harden 12 assist is basically forced
possible Hall of Famers Kenyon played with.
kidd, mourning, iverson, giannis(for 11 games) chris paul, carmelo, rasheed wallace(?)amare stoudamire(?) chauncey billups (?)
But yall got him as the head of the union. Do yo thing Paul ur great
It's crazy how difficult it is for him to understand why analytics aren't everything. In fact, it can be argued that only a high IQ basketball player can actually interpret the data.
Everyone who only looks at analytics will just say "bigger number means better."
Its crazy how yall taking sides in something that got nothing to do wit y'all
If you watched the Kmart knuckle head podcast this popped up
Right!
If analytics was so important, it will be able to figure out, what player ass will lock up in the last few seconds of a 1 point lead in game for the championship! So coaches will know I can’t even think about having this player on the court! Lol,
PS, What did Analytics say about Bruce brown being thekey player, after jokic and Murray to help Denver get over the hump to beat the Lakers, and the Miami heat! Especially the lakers never planned for him to be that successful, Nor did it account for the joker to hit about five last second buzzer beaters!!!! And Murray hitting about three, Without those hell Murray’s, no pond intended! That lakers series, with a split in the first four, could have had a totally different outcome!
Arguably Chris Paul, will have an afterlife as a player in the front office as a GM/ Front Office guy. His career after playing will be similar to Isaiah Thomas was before all the allegations of harassment and so on.
Without 2 NBA titles though
How are they even comparable???
Nobody playing for him they hate him. He’ll have to go ownership where nobody sees his face
Jason Kidd was a far better PG than Paul.
By far
Faaaaar better...
I agree.
He was amazing on the Nets and crucial to the Mavs when they won the title.
He was better for sure…. But at that time teams were actual teams…. Now it’s all about superstars…. The nets ain’t really have like a top ten player in the league but they had a squad…. The pistons had a SQUAD…. Kings, uhh Portland…. These were all contenders…. Yea u had the lakers and spurs but even then they played team ball and it was about the team
@@tonystretch5102 which makes what Kidd did even more special. He took a bum Nets team to top a competitive Eastern Conference. Pistons were getting really good, Boston had a solid team, Charlotte was tough. He mightve gotten them a ring had he not gone up against the Juggernaut Lakers and Spurs.
Analytics just tells me your heart is not in it .
Sounds like basically if you from my hood but you go to private school we cool but we ain’t cool or o your dad a cop we can’t trust him
Check the analytics on CP choking in the playoffs....
I’ve always heard he’s sneaky.
I’m a eye test dude, always have been also will be. I respect and value anyatics to a degree however anyatics don’t measure intangibles. Intangibles separates good from great and average, intangibles what’s inside of a player heart and soul
The eye test definitely matters.
This is absolutely correct...
Corporate media and modern academia are both working together to destroy the human gauge so that the common man is easier to fool with misinformation.
Its corporate idealism...
He's a parking cone! Go right around him no problem. No ring either damn Cliff Paul
Its contradictory for you to say "Blake made a lot of money coz of CP3" - implying he made Blake better, then turn around and say: "some people think he is just there to get an assist, that makes him selfish"?
He’s trash we all seenit
No its not.....i can make someone better, and only be there for my stats. Tho, i dont believe CP3 thought like tht. But, both can be true. He has to pass the ball to someone
He made deandre jordan an all star took the hornets to a conference championship made every team he was on better but I’m supposed to believe he’s selfish? Yea ok 👌🏾
@@deelewis8061 I'm truly not following the logic here. Stat padding and making someone better in most cases are mutually exclusive - ask Russel Westbrook :-)
Also if I'm racking up my assists (which consequently lead to stats), whilst making my team better how would you be able to determine that I'm selfish? i.e. How would you make the distinction between stat padding and just being a good floor general if the underlying result is better team chemistry?
@@kondwanimkandawire2680 See Rondo for the Kings back then. Not all assists are created equal either
I disagree w/ what he said about +/-. If you feel like you played good but while you were on the floor we were outscored by 15 we have a different meaning of good 😆
Not necessarily...there could have been other factors as to why you were outscored.
Stats without context is meaningless...
@@josephschmizzo1595 Literally every stat needs context most of the time 😆. That's why I used the ex. of -15. i.e Tatum scored 28pts w/ -36+/- as a starter & "good defender" that's a bad game no matter "context".
@@Tim_Dunkinnah thats not all the context u need to come to that conclusion though...what actually happened on the court during that time? You HAVE to look at what happened on the court to definitively conclude that that was a bad game.
Mar 1st 2022 LAL played DAL and The Mavs won by 5. As im watching the game im noticing what i always notice from Lebron, a hesitancy to disrupt his efficiency which leads to the team being stuck in a rut far too long and or never being able to fully use the offensive gifts of their players optimally. Go back and watch that game and u clearly see Luka outplay and outwork Bron (AND get the W) but once the game was over i was shocked when i saw the statline for both Bron and Luka...
Bron: 29 pts, 12 rebs, 5 assts, 55.6% and +7
Luka: 25 pts, 8 rebs, 5 assts, 42.9% and -7
Nobody w even a decent gauge of the sport would watch that game and see how Luka impacted the game vs how Bron impacted the game and dare to imagine that Bron had the better game.
THIS my friend is an example of analytics LYING to you and being deceitful.
Stats NEEEEED context and NOTHING beats the human eye 😉
@@josephschmizzo1595 You used numbers way below my example -7 & +7 are not -36. Like I said you need context for every stat, but no matter the context at the end of the game if you have a -36 +/- more than the actual pts you put up playing 35-40min when other starters have a let's say -10, you had a bad game as an individual win or lose. Not -1 ,-4, -7 NEGATIVE 36. I'm not saying for every game every season. I'm talking unusually high -25, -19, -22 (Westbrook). But whatever agree to disagree
@@Tim_Dunkin ok so am i right or am i wrong that numbers can deceive you? Yes or no bro lol cmon now....
These comments didn’t age well
Everyone was rooting for CP3, up 2-0 against the Bucks in the finals, and then the real CP3 didn’t show up again.
After those two games nba had Scott foster ref the games😂 nba foul af
Or, the real CP3 showed up for the last games, just like the entire rest of his career.
Patt Bev
15 years wow
Kid Cudi's older bro!!
He sounds like Skip Bayless
Analytics….. It’s the gambling curve now!! Plus .. minus…. Kenyon said that!!!!💪💪💪💪
Colin is making me crazy in this segment. He is very beligerent on this topic. He talking to a guy on the inside and its like he wont believe what hes saying about CP
Like listening to someone's drunk uncle.
Imagine thinking you know a sport cause you look at the stat sheet every night without watching the actual game...
imagine being the #1 pick, only to avg 12pts and 6 rebs, 1 allstar selection. Thats Kmart.
@@ManeVein703 not sure what your point is. He was brought in later parts of his career just for defense. So of course his averages suffered. Thanks for your 2 cents though..
Number 1 draft pick, 1 all star selection speaks alot. Later part of career has nothing to do with it.
@@ManeVein703 He's was an excellent role player and contributed greatly to the Nets run to the finals. I'm not sure the point of taking a career average stat to prove something. So are we gonna go average out Derrick Roses career stats and forget that he was the youngest MVP and til this day, no player plays like him?
A point guard being selfish for passing the ball and getting assist? That’s wild this man said he wasn’t letting dudes do there thing. If it’s that serious why not just hold the ball and “do your thing” then score so his assist won’t count? Or just don’t pass him the ball at all so he can create anything for his team? Oh because he would leave y’all wide open and that wouldn’t make any sense? I’m just curious
This was a time when most players were coming out of the shoot off the dribble moves. He was getting most of his assists off lobs to the big men, like Blake and DeAndre. He wouldn't get the ball to the Jamal Crawford/Iverson type of players. (They could give you 25 ppg but they have to create their shots). Now the floor is spread and everybody can catch and shoot.
@@jaycwill4006 he still average like 16 off the bench with like 42% shooter what more could he ask for at the time it’s not like he couldn’t do his thing. Plus In the play off when ball goes down he had all the time in the world to do his thing but it just seemed like that didn’t jumó the points or efficiency up any higher.
@@jerrelscott418 they never had that 2nd guard fr. Collison got traded or they let him walk and cp was the only playmaker outside of Blake. They never really found that balance together at their peaks combined with injuries and the league changing
@@jbtreshawn they had to play small to not be played off the court, but Blake was not a rim protector. They also never had an offensive threat at the wing when you were seeing all-stars in every playoff series. And hack a DeAndre was affective.
@@andysawyer647 facts
If Kmart hadn’t broken his leg....
i really dislike how many people misunderstand analytics. it is understanding something. and using numbers as a tool to assist you in helping figure out what you want to do. people who only use numbers are not using analytics correctly. and teams who don't use it are putting themselves at a severe disadvantage. because it's just more knowledge than what is easily seen.
Lmao 🙄
Analytics are complete nonsense…
OF COURSE stats and numbers can give you as you say a “tool” to look at things and “put together a plan”, not “predict” things…
Basketball is about physics and putting a ball in a hoop, in between that there are MILLIONS of variables and intangibles that analytics can’t even come close to comprehending or changing, or “understanding” the game…
These are objective facts man
Look at the 2016 SEASON and FINALS
It’s literal proof numbers have ZERO meaning
Michael Carter-Williams is another objective proof example of numbers literally giving detrimental predictions
@@djdoc06 thats not true...analytics can be faulty in and of themselves. You cant do anything effectively w analytics alone...you need to have an actual gauge.
Kmart on Chris Paul makes no sense to me.. smh
Thats crazy, He does his job well, palys team ball, plays defense and makes his teammates alot of money. That's not enough. You can't please everyone.
makes his team mates better and lands them with huge contracts: I don't know if I can trust him as a teammate.
I'll tell you why he's always crying on the court just like LeBron
Paul was one of the few true points guards left in the NBA when the shoot first, bigger point guard style emerged. He's like Jay-Z after Pac & Big were killed; the best by default. If we're talkin' NBA analytics CP3 is a loser.
Kenyan knows basketball
sounds like an educated person dealing with the ignorant and uneducated.
they tend to think things like you playing both sides
This title was a lie
I can Agnatically see You can’t Shoot😂
Martin always playing that tough guy bs. He should have played with Larry " mr mean " Smith and Xavier " X-man " McDaniels and I guarantee you he wouldn't have gotten tough with them.
😂😂😂😂😂 what
bingo..... Martin saying alot of BS.... "he don't like numbers" cause he didn't enough of them. #1pick, 12pts, 6rebs avg....🤣
Willie Lynch