Using A Peterbilt Frame To Stretch A Ford Cabover
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- To make a brand new frame, I weld a junk Peterbilt frame to the Ford frame. This makes a template for the new one.
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I actually enjoyed this frame episode. The driving and the highways that you use is my biggest reason for watching. But this was cool and informative.
As someone who is not mechanically minded, I really enjoy seeing how things get done in the shop.
The one thing I've been wondering about the Chapel Ford is if you're gonna bag all four cab corners? I know this one didn't have it from factory, but I would think the frame would have the places for it and those Two Story Falcons were very cool having that setup factory, especially since no one else in the US market did that since and it adds that distinctiveness that really sets it apart.
Ford were experts in aluminum casting and forging back then. The aluminum rims on the late 1970s Lincolns are a prime example. GM was notorious for porosity issues with their aluminum parts well into the late 1990s.
Now we're getting somewhere on the Ford. I drove a 78 early in my career.
Watching them lift and carry all that shit makes my back and body extremely grateful I work in a shop with multiple overhead cranes. Sometimes you don't know how good you got it till you see the other side.
You got that right--I was lucky enough to work in a huge/brand new shop for a havey construction firm, where they spared no expense when they built it. Crawling aroung on the ground in the gravel is for young kids.
Wish ford would make cabovers again!
Ford made a European COE version; they're mostly used in South America and parts of France, Spain, Italy, and other countries.
You and Chris work well together. Smart Guy with lots of experience. You are lucky to have him.
I would enjoy working with Chris. The knowledge that you could retain working around him would be priceless. Awesome episode guy's 👏🏽 really enjoyed this one.
Hey Steve are going to put dual stacks on her when your all said and done putting her back together also she’s going to look good once your done
You are not boring me I am interested in old school COE semi trucks just like I don’t like modern cars, pickups, SUVs. 🙂
Can''t wait to see that frame when it is done
Good to see work happening on the FORD. It's going to look killer. You have talked about getting the Ford sorted but it wasn't that long ago Big Guy. Things are happening.
You still got that 12v Detroit
Steve and Chris working hard on the chap trailer
TIME FOR AN OVERHEAD CHAIN HOIST
Mark at twinstickgarage is building a iron duke and is a 280 wheelbase
@@davidburridge4688 There's no way Mark's "Iron Duke" is only 280. The new frame for the Chapel Ford is 23 feet, which is at most 276 inches (that's not from the center of the axles, just the frame) and Mark has got to have that K-Whopper stretched out to at least 300.
Excellent job there, young men! How's the step deck lookin'?
Steve really looking forward to this project i just love seeing the 70,s and early 80,s trucks coming back into service as a 67 year old they were my trucks ,i remember the Ford from the Jan Michael Vincent movie white line fever ,so keep at it Mate ,you lucked out with Chris he,s good value
Cheers kym
Adelaide
This truck will look good
So if the green apu is going between tank and fender on one side thst means you can have a work box- steps on other side to get to your headach rack easier.
Oh huck bolts how I hated removing them on that 62 Emeryville.
GREAT TEAM WORK BRO
I know hiring Chris was a big financial investment but damn you guys are getting so much more done now it was the right call. What is the plan for the Ford? Are you putting a driver in it? Or will it be a backup for Orwell if you have a breakdown or to give him a break for upgrades?
Great video Steve glad to see you and Chris work so well together on the old Ford. Thanks for sharing stay safe Steve and Chris.
Awesome video Steve and Chris👍👍👍
Great to see the Ford getting somewhere now Steve,I always loved the look of the 9000 , when other were not keen at all. I loved them all to be honest . The marmon Ford Pete kenworth freigh, cabovers I'm on about.
I am a over the road truck driver regional. I would love to drive one of your older trucks, but I would like to stay regional. I would love that 73 freightliner with a new frame and air conditioning.
As soon as you said freightliner.......your definitely out of any hope. Lol. No curb sniffers
CHRIS IS DA MAN
You two are really knocking out the work. Nice job!
Hell yeah that going to be a nice length and going back to your comment about parts availability on anything underneath why not modernise it slightly to say Orwell axles or newer air all around be like riding a cloud but definitely got me excited for this build you and Chris could build a right rig your definitely a good team anyhow hope you all stay well god bless
Should do a lift axel cab over build
Well as Steve has said previously, he wants to keep it as original as possible.
A three axle and bigger fuel tank are really the only changes that he wants to meet the requirements he needs for it to be a work truck for the loads the company he works for does.
Nice job but i would spend 3 grand and get a modern cut off with hub pilot wheels and Rockwell brakes with 3600 drums.That old set of rears has probably Eaton 4311 shoes which suck and difficult to find and much more expensive drums not to mention the diff's also.
Monday again 22..07..24 Steve Chris I like the macanic side I all love the driving side because living in UK it's interesting iver way having been a international driver driving trucks from 1976 till today modern truck 🚛 many thanks
Another great FSC video. Shop is looking good and as always , the content is amazing.
Have you verified with Green APU that the unit can be mounted where you want it mounted? It should only require longer hoses than what's on Orwell. That shouldn't be a problem, but I would still verify that it can be mounted that far from the cab and radiator.
That's a common spot and that cabover is way shorter than most conventional trucks...it's a non issue whatsoever.
You're lucky to have such a good mechanic Uncle Fester Or bull Herrly Mr cue ball
Great video Steve and Chris can't wait to see this project completed i think its going to be pretty darn cool!!!
That's a lot of work & I can't wait to see the finished product but man would I be wearing gloves.
If you want to determine the exact fuel capacity on Orwell measure the length and width of the tank. Convert all measurements to feet.Take the width measurement and find the radius. Take that measurement and square it. Then multiply that by 3.14. Next multiply the results by the length of the tank. Finally take that result and multiply by 7.48 to determine gallons.
looking good mate
Very cool things a happening, Get-R-Done
Big progress. Nicely done.
Grate video Steve
Try borgesson universal company
Next engine rebuild on Orwell. Find a 2ws or 6nz cat. Rebuild it ..line bore counter bores and deck job. Its not hard to convert to a E model from mechanical..just a dumb suggestion....lol
A bit, considering the whole point of keeping "Orwell" with his original engine is to avoid all those emissions bull and not having to run an e-log.
@@danielseelye6005 He can absolutely upgrade to a electronic pre emissions engine if he ever chooses to. With a higher horse and touqe ECM file if he would ever go to the E model engine series
@@scottbaker1018 You're not getting it: He _could_ put a C16 in there if he wanted to, but he _won't_ because he wants to keep "Orwell's" engine as stock and mechanical as he can so he can avoid having computer glitches and ECM faults hitting him, plus by having any engine computer on that Cat will make him more likely to be forced into using E-logs rather than the paper ones he uses now.
Double the power requires a new transmission driveshafts are differentials. Basically $100,000 with engine. No thanks.
On the fuel tank capacity, my guess is that the mathematical capacity is 141 gallons, but since it has a filler neck on the side of the tank and the tank will be mounted with the filler not at the very top, but slightly to the side, the tank will hold 134 gallons with the fuel level up to the level of the filler neck. So it is a 141 gallon tank, but only 134 gallons of usable capacity.
My name is Charles Benoit and I live in Burlington Vermont. I was just wondering when you’re coming through so I can meet with you and maybe get a picture of you and Orwell
damm that is a hard job/good job/i got 2 sees u guys put it back on
Ever thought of a Kenworth 8 bag to help with Ford front spring? I understand it will bolt right up to most Peterbilt
😊 rear frames. We did one here in Canada a few years ago and it worked very well.
No. Only because I didn't have one laying around.
Love these videos, thank you for sharing/teaching!
Hi now that was a great video
Is the Yello 362 gonna survive..thanks from a retired full bucket coal hauler. 6 plus .you know what I'm saying. Keep Rollin Steve
Steve had said he will get the 352 back up and hauling, but the Chapel Ford was gonna get done first.
There are no axles for 352 as they are used for the Ford truck.Will be easier to buy a cut frame with axles for 352.
Awesome
Hey steve! Cannot wait to see the ford the day it's finished! best of luck!
are you planning on making that a double frame. if not that joint needs to be a cut less than halfway down then level and down on the front frame and the back matches the front
Are you doing twin stacks on the Ford would look awesome.
Probably going to keep the single. But with my style.
Great video! Didn’t want it to end!
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Straight Line Steering, San Jose, Ca Heavy duty obsolete and classic heavy duty truck steering box exchange/rebuilding. Hope this helps, Bill
Good to know.
Sat least I'm number one at something
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I just saw you on I 80 eastbound next to the Hubbard Ohio exit, I was going wet and yelled there gos steve and my wife was like who, I said a utube driver I watch it was July 21st, keep on trucking sir
Yup. Was me heading to New England
Hey Steve, you can get a replica of your trucks made to sell as merch. They would sell really good. There are a lot of adult diecast truck collectors out there. You would be surprised send me a message I can tell you where to get it done at if you’re interested, love the channel.
bet he had dudes hanging all over the place in the ole cabover
this guy is cool!!
You are doing a lot of extra work that is not needed. All of the frame rail manufacturers I have dealt with have cad files with all of the different suspension bolt patterns and they just laser cut all the holes in the frame.
Who do you know that can do this instead of PG Adam's?
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I Love this Channel & I'm NOT a hater by any means. You guys always talk, "safety, safety, safety" but your using chrome sockets where impact sockets should be being used. I realize those are big sockets on big bolts & nuts. I have seen a chrome socket "explode" from using on an impact gun, not pretty at all plus one could get injured from flying pieces. But then again I have seen impact sockets explode too. I am a Automotive Technician from WAY back....30+ yrs. Just was wondering why the chrome socket instead of impact sockets.
Yeap they both circle their mistake
I know a company is dong something like that to stretch a frame out. And making the Semi Sleeper longer. So what are u going to be doing with that Yellow Peterbuilt Steve?
Use be a chapel truck and trailer at T A at exit 4 coming into Wisconsin from Minnesota
What will the wheelbase be with the new frame rails ?
love your guys content keep it up!
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Steve, you rebuilt that boost control module , you sure as shit can do a power steering pump standing on your head.... You will need to make a couple of tools for the piston. If need be Ole 2 stroker youtube channel has a video and there are 50 others. I did the saginaw in my Asto 95 after watching one, many... The only pain in the ass are the ball bearings.
Great vid as always,question Steve,why does the back axle have to be driven? In the UK we run rear tags either single or double,lift when running empty saves fuel and tyre scrub. Heavy haul do run 6x4 and 8x4. Stay safe,keep on trucking
Hello Steve I enjoyed the video, anxious to see it finished I like those trucks, have a good one.
Hey Steve how are you doing today my love I love watching your UA-cam videos they are very educational videos and keep up the good work and I love the content in the videos
Box the frame for strength?
Totally unnecessary!
Also, you would run into weight concerns
Frame boxing will interfere with mounting brackets and the various crossmembers in the chassis. The channel used is very thick-walled, not thin like automotive framerails. Light-duty pickups are built to hold between 6000 and 10000 pounds. Semis need to hold at least 80000 combined, and some are rated well over 100k pounds. You are looking at 5/16, 3/8, or 7/16 inches thick steel(8 to 10mm). Logging trucks and cement trucks probably run 1/2" thick framerails.
You aren't gonna put Budds under it ? single axle to tandem , you said Pete rears I didn't know Peterbuilt made drive axles, How close to 390 ratio, 22.5 or 24.5 rubber?
Please please please please let tim and SH Tube stretch thus truck and deck her out..collab video I hear
No. That would defeat the purpose of the exercise. 🤦🏻♂️
Besides, he is stretching it "technically" to make it a twin screw.
It's only getting as long as it must be. Not a stretch for looks.
@fsctrucking I mean your already cutting the frame why not take the opportunity it would be a sweet looking for never Sen a stretched ford you'd have one of a kind
@@davonjones8402 And ruin the drivability getting into tight spaces.
Why do you think they need Gentry and Sh tube? FSC is more than capable of handling this
From Boston truckers to you brother when you get to Massachusetts we would like to put lunch on us please contact us Steve
How long is the wheel base going to be ??
@@davidburridge4688 It'll be less than 276 inches (the frame is at most 23 feet as Steve said) and the axles will be set up within that length so I'm guessing closer to 250-260 inches.
Wheelbase is measured from the center of the steer axle to the middle of the tandem. Not end to end . Should fall in the range of 175 (ish) inches
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Does this mean you're going to have to get a purple oval logo? Between Adam's and Alumitank you're going with good vendors.
After yesterday's phone call, I'm not so sure. My suspicion about the frame people seem to be correct.
@fsctrucking Let us know what happens. I know my experience with Alumatank was flawless. Less than a week after signing off on the drawings I had my tanks. I've talked with them about stamping the tank data into the fill collar instead of the glued on data plate. They're looking to go that route.
I preached in 1,at exit 62 on Interstate 24 outside of Nashville, Tenn.
Facts like this is why I'm happy to keep one around.
Was there any difference in width between the Pete and the Ford? are you gonna be able to make the Pete cross members work?
I am going to get new crossmembers
Steve I still think you should go hub centre axles on the ford don't get me wrong I see where your coming from keeping it ass is but if your out some shops may not work on them man killer wheels. Anyway will you be putting a big cabinet like Orwell has and big stacks?? Anyway awesome video I'm just happy we have a ford video It will be one badass truck regardless
Steve covered the wheels a long time ago. They look like split rims, but they aren't that style of locking bead. The military uses similar rims on stuff like the HEMMIT.
Steve wants to retain the period look of the truck, and yes, more modern axles would be easier to get parts for, but appearance will not match the Dayton style he wants to retain.
Hey I get him but he's says oh parts are unobtainable then say ohh I'm keeping it retro I like the look. As he says he will do what he wants im just giving a recommendation as someone who's done a old modern restoration I.e old cab and engine modern running gear and I'm not hating I just didn't get the hole it's unobtainable they don't make these no more but I'm not modernising though comment that's all
Also HEMITT, HET, MAN, scania, boxer they all use single rim beadlock not quite the same as daytons more on the line of Plant and agricultural not the same as split rim 3 peace run flat either they are a old relic that not all young tyre techs will touch and have the right to refuse too
Is it possible to buy frame beams from the steel supplier ?? Rent or buy a mag drill and make the holes yourself.
Steve that CL9000/Pete is gonna be one badass truck! Can’t wait to see it done and heavy hauling. Any idea on time frame/ETA to have it working?
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mech s/ dont do all that work////good luck
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Just look and talk natural looks like your panicking talking to the camera gets cringy to watch
the ford conventionals sucked with detroits i remember crawling hills they had big tanks 78000 lbs you could jump out and run alonst side thats how fast they where.10 speeds.i haated in the 80s assigned to them but i loved them for the ride they rode like Cadillac's but they didnt have the power petes and kennys ortranstar11 s had
Will Ford get single or double frame ? ?
Single.
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Now......that's funny 😁 👍 Ha ha ha ha
What a yutz I am.