Good news: Seems like Trump's EPA will stop colluding with NRDC and other deceitful environmental groups. It reversed the Obama EPA’s assault on a useful mining project:
That's one of the worse statements I've heard. He would like to regulate volcanoes if he could. Why doesn't he stop living. He's just one more human in the way of nature.
No the EPA guys I've been exposed to have been the most power hungry money grubbing jerks I have ever meet. We had a meeting of many contractors called together by the EPA. And they told us straight out. Their funds were cut so they will be issuing fines for any minor infractions. At the maximum penalty. Plain jerks. And they were happy about it.
What infuriates me is the fishery employs thousands of people, and $1 billion or more per year for the next 100 years or more if protected and regulated well. That mine will produce few jobs for a couple decades and then leave a damaged environment. There are many locations around Alaska that have the potential for huge profits, and will not endanger a huge fishery.
It, like all the other alphabet soup agencies are all extraconstitutional, illegal and should all be eliminated immediately in accordance with the 10th amendment to the constitution. The law of the land. There's a reason none of these agencies existed before the Felony Reserve act. This is the unelected, perpetual deep-state that allows the banksters to control everything, no matter who we vote for.
"It's sand, it'll never go anywhere!" It's not the sand that is an issue, it's the concentrated toxic acid run off that leaches out of these minerals when they oxidize after being exposed to water or air i.e. pyrite (iron sulfate) rusts into sulfuric acid. What that man said was one of the most misrepresented and untruthful things I've heard.
Finally a victory this last week for Pebble Mine developers last week and Northern Dynasty, but most importantly, a victory for the people who are suffering in Alaska without jobs. The Trump EPA has removed the outrageous block by the Obama EPA back in 2014 and so an environmental study headed by the Army Corps of Engineers can be done.
yeah fuck this mine dude, you're brain dead if you think it should go through. If it does, youre never gonna eat cheap alaskan salmon again since it will all be dead.
Wow, just wow. I am a huge Stossel fan, and a lifelong Conservative (although John nearly won me over to the Libertarian ticket), but he blew it on this one! HUGE! He must have gotten his information straight from Pebble Mine, and didn't look any further. I'm from Bristol Bay Alaska and I live in that town that he is shocked to see is 90 miles from Pebble Mine. While WE are 90 miles away, the salmon spawning grounds are right there. Sort of an important note, yeah? We have a $1.5 billion fishing industry, the world's LAST intact salmon fishery; all the others having been destroyed in the last 200 years by mining, dams, pollution of rivers and streams, etc. If you've ever eaten wild salmon, it came from here. WE went to the EPA, the citizens of Bristol Bay. They didn't come to us. We asked them to do a study. We did so because Pebble has been jerking us around since 1985, continuing to develop and drag their feet on filing for a permit or do an environmental impact study and to this day they have not shared their plan because they know they can't defend it. The EPA finally came and listened to public comments, both for and against and decided to conduct a study. They determined that Pebble was a significant risk, just the building and operation of it, alone. The mining operation would require they build their own power plant which would contaminate all its own, before any mining even starts, the water use, 85 million gallons annually, that is greater than the city of Anchorage, nearly a half million people. But, yes, they are 90 miles away. And all that is if nothing goes wrong. Then you have the tailings pond holding back the sulfuric acid contents of a 3 mile wide open pit mine, that has to remain intact until the end of time, in the heart of earthquake country. Seem feasible to you? Now, about that mine with its tailings pond. This bozo claims it's sand in that pond. Right. If it's just sand why would you build an enormous earth dam to hold it? What are they doing with the 80 million gallons of annually contaminated waste water? Are they going to put a roof over it to keep out the average 50 inches of rain and 91 inches of snow? This guy clearly doesn't want to talk about what is in that pond. I do! That pond (lake) is at the headwaters of 2 rivers that encompass HALF of the entire state's watershed which spans 40,000 square miles. But, again, it's 90 miles from my town! Why should I worry? The EPA has the ability to preemptively stop a project. Otherwise why have a permitting process at all? Yet of the over 200 million requests, they've only exercised their preemptive power 14 times. We were the 14th. What happened in response? Pebble fired their CEO and hired this guy who is a Washington insider and he got 2 Senators to submit a bill removing the EPAs preemptive power. Obama's administration was NOT embarrassed, as this bozo claims. He just got in there and began buying dinners for his buddies. It stinks, because there are only 8,000 of us in Bristol Bay, but we have no representation. That now belongs to corporations and Washington insiders.
Love your level headed RATIONAL thinking. Not everything should be decided based on how you identify politically. It’s crazy we have lost our ability to think rationally. I live in the south surrounded by republicans. Believe in fiscal conservatism, believe in capitalism, but I also want clean water…. And air. The republicans, rather MAGA groupies that I know , they would cut off their nose to spite their face.
Pebble Mine threatens Alaska's salmon in ways outsiders can't even begin to understand. Salmon are the arteries of our state giving nutrients and life to the entire ecosystem. The chain reaction of events that would follow after destroying a salmon population are literally apocalyptic for those ecosystems. Outsiders have no business dictating what goes on in our state, take your mining someplace else.
Can we get an update on the Pebble Project? Really enjoy your reporting and would love to hear your take and what's taken place over the last three years.
They believe nature is a god. They zealously worship that god. They believe themselves as gods. And everything they do fountains forth from this belief.
Both Environmentalists & pro-miners should agree that environmental impact studies should be allowed to take place or else we won't know the effects of the mine.
This news clip is strait up mis information. Extensive and exhaustive studies have been done on the impact of this mine. The epa had to get involved and do their own because the mining company "Pebble" has consistently refused to release their studies and data. I wonder why.
Carbon is a pollutant?? She's in for a surprise when she finds out where her fancy clothes, make up, and transportation came from, and that she actually breathes carbon and plants love it. And oil isn't life saving?? How about that life expectancy since before humans switched to oil? The infant mortality rate? Leaps in medical breakthroughs, and climate protection with clothes, homes, and central A/C?
If you believe this, you are massively guidable. To develop Pebble Mine is a sick perversion. The region provides more than 50% of the wild salmon we eat. Most Alaskans oppose the mine and all of mining companies are foreign. There are other places to mine, but not other places are productive for wild salmon.
I despise the EPA, and I think that these folks in Alaska should be left alone to build their mine, but these pipelines are a different animal. The fact that they need to reach from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico just screams EXPORT. To supply our foreign competitors cheap energy. From a foreign country (Canada) to open waters for export. For a relative handful of jobs, many of which will be temporary. Just having a hard time seeing the big upside to the plebs in the U.S. on this one. If they had a refinery in the U.S. along the way, to supply cheap plentiful energy to the U.S. market, I'd be on board. The pipeline could also be MUCH shorter. This just smacks of more globalism and crony capitalism to me.
My organization is working on a plan for world peace, and imagine how many munitions manufacturers will be put out of business and how many jobs will be lost when world peace comes. Building bombs and missiles pays really well but I don't see how anyone can live with himself or herself when they put their own welfare over that of others. The world is a closed ecosystem, and what happens in one location affects the entire planet. No one has the right to pollute the environment.
Thanks for putting this up - I'd seen it once on the internet and could not find it again. Pulling for the locals on this. Thanks so much for investigating.
The locals that are upstream from the proposed Pebble mine are in favor of the project. The locals that are downstream oppose the project. The project is at the headwaters of half the salmon-producing rivers that currently provides for about 15,000 - 20,000 jobs, while this proposed project brings in only 2,000 jobs. It is a great project, just not a very good location for it.
Did all the people going to one of the marches/protests or meetings walk or ride a horse ? Were they're homes warm and cozy heated by some type of Fossil Fuel or did they cut down trees ? If the people complaining were living like they were in the 1700's then maybe I'd sympathize. But they're not, they're enjoying every modern convenience known to man. Like Al Gore flying a private jet everywhere to talk about climate change. Where do you think the electric comes from for your E-cars ???
If only somebody had run for president that would have pushed back against this atrocity. Oh yeah, Johnson did. But no way, two party system is best...
Thank God they stopped the pebble mine. If you think the environmental impact would've be nominal, or "not that bad". And that it would be worth it for the "jobs", you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. This is a puff peice produced by the mining companies no question. Go study more, and study the history of these kinds of mines and what happens EVERY SINGLE TIME a pit mine is abandoned, and its beyond destructive effect on waterways and communities after they're finished. A few people get rich now, and the rest of us pay for the upkeep in perpetuity. The pollution cannot be contained. And I'm no green fascist, im all for mining in many places, we need gold and copper. But this mine would be unbelievably disastrous to the ecosystem. Just imagine the Berkley pit mine, but 5 times the size right on the headwaters of your local largest river. It will cost more to contain (if it even is contained) then the wealth that will come out of it. Don't just watch this pro mining propoganda, learn more about it. Even pro mining republican congressmen in Alaska are adamantly against this mine. For very good reasons.
Aww, I am so disheartened. This is exactly what happened to the Navajo people and the EPA when they set to close the Navajo Generating Station. A whole town on the reservation is going to have to figure out other sources of income. This town was one of the few on the reservation where people had enough money to be considered "doing well". Trump tried to keep it open but it wasn't enough.
I love many of stossel’s videos but this video is very ignorant. Thousands of reports and projections show this to be a dangerous and threatening mine.
Now, without that pipeline, many Americans are freezing due to lack of ADEQUATE HEATING OIL AND GAS. We, I mean you Americans now need also Uranium and coal to meet the heating needs of an increasingly cooling global climate.
Look at this stock, look at the need for the American owned rare earths, how many of the folks who stopped it bought in cheap... then it will be greenlit later?
This mine will be a monstrous environmental disaster. Money Money, money. I guess that's all that matters. Here in Kentucky, there are poisonous holding ponds, mountain top mining provides no jobs and environmental disasters.
I think you got this one wrong. You need to do a little more research John. This is about federal government trying to tell people what they can do with their land. The real benefactor is Canada's corporation not Americans
Over 150 million has been spent on environmental studies at the Pebble Mine in Alaska which is 100 miles away from Bristol Bay. WAY more studies will happen during permitting and if it's so bad they won't get a permit. Free the Pebble Mine, the precious metals are MEANT to be mined. #PebbleMine #NAK #NorthernDynastyMinerals #Hag2:8
Pebble mine would be 90 miles from Bristol Bay, but not from where the salmon spawn. If you knew anything about salmon you would know that sockeye spawn in creeks off lakes. At the top end of one of the rivers is lake Iliamna where millions of salmon will spawn every year. Oh FYI lake Iliamna is the large lake close to the mine. I suppose you didn’t know that either.
If it's as bad as some claim then Northern Dynasty Minerals shouldn't get a permit. The studies to determine the effect on the environment should be allowed to take place. It's worth mentioning that Northern Dynasty Minerals/Pebble Mine pays for these studies.
Metals aren’t meant to be mined. We’ve just extracted, purified, & manipulated the elements to suit our needs. Metals would like to be rusty in a exposed natural state but we work against that.
I have lost all respect for this man now. This is some cherry picked facts. The vast majority of Alaskans, me included, are heavily against this. Go to igiugig and see what they say. Go to King Salmon and see what they say. The fact they lie about how “safe” tailings ponds are. Just as a former miner that is obviously bull shit.
Agreed. All the legit mining companies have abandoned the project, the finances of Northern Dynasty are in shambles, they can't do the environmental paperwork correctly or thoroughly, they would seriously endanger the wildlife of the region... they're a failed company.
You all are buying this commercial? Any of you remember the earthquake in '64? How many disasters will it take before people realize that the corporations will say and do anything to earn a killing? This is short-term thinking! Poor United States has to risk harming one of the most proficient fishing industries in the world to help out poor people with temporary jobs. Poor people want money? Okay, you just have to make the rich richer while doing it. Anyway, the people who enjoy the beauty of Bristol Bay are of the richest in the world. They don't need to risk it!!!
The Bristol Bay Watershed is the most productive salmon habitat in the entire World! Nothing else like it on the face of the Earth - a living Gem, and a treasure which belongs to everyone. Anything threatening this rare ecosystem or potentially threatening this is a terrible idea! Bristol Bay is far too valuable to risk for lining the pockets for a few wealthy investors and creating temporary boom and bust mining jobs. The people of Bristol Bay don't want it, Alaskans don't want it, and most of America doesn't want it.
Just curious, HOW do you know what the majority of Americans want or feel? No one has ever asked me about anything, and all of the people I know haven't ever been questioned about anything either. So please understand that I questioned your statement and call B.S. on the statement as posed.
usually Stossel is spot on. Not on this one. Pebble Mine is not good for Alaska or the Salmon. I love how the pebble mine guy in this video talks about the mines in Frazer, BC. and how safe they are next to a major salmon river... they had a huge spill there about a year ago.
Chris Minneapolis ya... you obviously know what you are talking about....perhaps you are a biologist, scientist, or something that would make your opinion credible. Mines, especially ones that you would have to basically create a whole new lake to try to recreate a new spawning place for sockeye salmon because you would be mining their spawning area are bound to have problems. Seeing how a majority of Alaskan salmon sold on the market today are from Bristol bay... Pebble sounds like a awesome idea...
All this video is advocating for is the fairness to actually *take a look at an environmental impact study* before just blatantly saying no to something just because you feel like it is bad and scary
Aahhhh first thumbs down. I respect Stossel, but this was definitely selectively edited to hell. Fun fact: A poll showed that >70% of people in Bristol Bay are against the Pebble Mine.
Pretty ironic blaming media propaganda while commenting on a piece of media propaganda. I'd think the people that live in Bristol Bay would understand the area better. For example...they know the mine is located at the HEADWATERS of Bristol Bay, meaning that pollution would get into the tributaries leading to the bay.
Stfu and get a real job the EPA should do it job of protecting the environment not shutting down everything simply because it might mess up one peice of grass you fucking libtard
Completely agree with you. Thanks for having an opinion that doesn't ignorantly try to degrade people for their facts. People truly dont understand the impacts something like this may have.
Chris Minneapolis That is just a blatant lie. Take it from someone who actually lives in the Bristol Bay Area, we oppose pebble mine. I eat salmon I myself help harvest al least twice a week and so does almost everyone else who lives here. Not only that but most people’s livelihood including my own depends on salmon. So before you decide what my opinion as a private citizen and the opinion of almost everyone else who lives here. Actually listen to our opinion.
This guy considers himself an environmentalist? He just wants to line his pockets at the expense of the habitat the community and the fish that will be affected.......to see that rich native woman crying and speaking on behave of a bunch of people who no doubt disagree with her..........Good for Trump for protecting the environment over the interest of fat cats who would no doubt destroy the environment for the opportunity to make a quick buck.
the EPA said no because they had already done years of search and held hearing about this topic. they agreed to protect the environment, protect the jobs of the fisheries, rather can let companies exploit it
Zachary Stanly And also, you can start the mine and see what happens, if the salmon starts to dissappear, close the mine. Animals doesn't dissappear over night.
But Alaska is unused and uninhabited. If it’s was in a random spot in the tundra or a forest, that that wouldn’t do that much damage or have an effect. But pebble is planned at a spot of Salmon importance and a previous human presence living off it.
The environmental alarmists in the comments are weird. They're saying that the mining does damage to the environment and that it's good that the project was stopped, but these same people probably advocate for EVs as an environmental alternative to gasoline powered cars. I don't know where activists think all the materials for their computerized cars come from .-.
As long as mankind keeps fucking, there will never be enough! This raping of the earth, is not sustainable. And, let me remind you, mankind was here long before the industrial age. We can survive without a lot of the bullshit, that you think you need. Destroying my fishery for your Xbox, cellphone, and necklace, is a bad trade. Gold may be pretty, but try eating the shit!
Try living through any disease without the gold needed to create the machines and computers to find and research them lmao. Humans barely survived before the age of technology.
There are no government agencies that do what they're paid to do, absolutely none of them. EPA, FDA, FBI, CIA, none of them. These are just a few. None of them are in existence to protect Americans from certain hazards. They are there to waste our money. That's it.
It's about the beds Dudette. It's about The one and only Bristol Bay. Look at Brazil. Look at Ft Belnap. Look at Nevada. Use your head for more than a hat rack.
Alaskans have been successful at doing both PRO-development and PRO- environment hence why we have the highest standards! Destroying one renewable resource for another that is ignorance! We don’t crap in our kitchen!! Repeating catastrophic failures and expecting different results without recognizing the insanity of it all isn’t an option in Bristol Bay!
Get your copper from China, I am sure it will be more environmentally safe.
They just wanna make money, there is plenty of copper in American landfills...
Depends on the mode of transportation.
Cant even do that. China gets their copper from us in the form of trash
Lol
Now there's an idea, bury Seattle... 🤔
Don't do that.... don't give me hope.
thanks for the giggle
That's one of the worse statements I've heard. He would like to regulate volcanoes if he could. Why doesn't he stop living. He's just one more human in the way of nature.
Mount St. Helens did more damage to the environment that a 2k foot hole would do.
You are full of sh*t!
@@jcw3195 he's correct you know
@@jcw3195 Yes he is!
I wonder if John Stossel ever considered running for president.
He'd have to shave
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I don’t think he has any interest whatsoever in that kind of work
Why should he? Then he'd just be regulated by the Corptatorship.
@@johnmoore1495Maybe Ted Cruise is setting a new trend
Most libertarians wouldn't stand anywhere near government.
No the EPA guys I've been exposed to have been the most power hungry money grubbing jerks I have ever meet. We had a meeting of many contractors called together by the EPA. And they told us straight out. Their funds were cut so they will be issuing fines for any minor infractions. At the maximum penalty. Plain jerks. And they were happy about it.
Bunch of fucking leeches off the backs of hard working People with REAL jobs
Further reason why the EPA should be called the Employment Prevention Agency.
Why?
@@Ajourneyofknowing Did you watch the video?
sounds like you have never eaten fresh sockeye before you DUNCE
That actually made me laugh, that was a damn good one Kevin.
This infurates me that poeple that don't want to have a job can destroy your ability to work on something can make you decent money
What infuriates me is the fishery employs thousands of people, and $1 billion or more per year for the next 100 years or more if protected and regulated well. That mine will produce few jobs for a couple decades and then leave a damaged environment. There are many locations around Alaska that have the potential for huge profits, and will not endanger a huge fishery.
It infuriates me that people will destroy the earth and everything around it just to make a quick buck.
Affirm. I live in Alaska. You’re correct, Stossel. Thanks for bringing attention to this.
Abolish the EPA. We have congress for a reason. Bureaucrats need to go.
It, like all the other alphabet soup agencies are all extraconstitutional, illegal and should all be eliminated immediately in accordance with the 10th amendment to the constitution. The law of the land.
There's a reason none of these agencies existed before the Felony Reserve act. This is the unelected, perpetual deep-state that allows the banksters to control everything, no matter who we vote for.
Abolish the FDA! Industry and congress can take care of inspecting meat and keeping harmful foods off of grocery store shelves.
EXACTLY the reason why the EPA is being significantly reduce right now... and justifiably so.
Yup! Trump has drastically reduced a lot of bullshit regulations and nonsense, and he plans to reduce them even more! Go TRUMP!
@@Someguy6571 Trump 2021
As long as Pebble Mine follows the rules..let them dig!!!
"It's sand, it'll never go anywhere!" It's not the sand that is an issue, it's the concentrated toxic acid run off that leaches out of these minerals when they oxidize after being exposed to water or air i.e. pyrite (iron sulfate) rusts into sulfuric acid. What that man said was one of the most misrepresented and untruthful things I've heard.
This is why I love the Simpsons Movie. While it does dramatize it a bit, it finally portrays government the right way.
We need to eliminate 75% of the EPA's budget!
Problem is then they make even more regulations with the aim of funding themselves through all the fines they get paid. You just can't win
Those wind turbines are atrocious
and they do more environmental damage than an oil pipeline
Finally a victory this last week for Pebble Mine developers last week and Northern Dynasty, but most importantly, a victory for the people who are suffering in Alaska without jobs. The Trump EPA has removed the outrageous block by the Obama EPA back in 2014 and so an environmental study headed by the Army Corps of Engineers can be done.
This comment didn't age well haha...
@@willroberts7256 thank God. Anyone for this mine are either utterly ignorant of its ramifications, or their blinded by greed, or just outright evil.
yeah fuck this mine dude, you're brain dead if you think it should go through. If it does, youre never gonna eat cheap alaskan salmon again since it will all be dead.
Wow, just wow. I am a huge Stossel fan, and a lifelong Conservative (although John nearly won me over to the Libertarian ticket), but he blew it on this one! HUGE! He must have gotten his information straight from Pebble Mine, and didn't look any further.
I'm from Bristol Bay Alaska and I live in that town that he is shocked to see is 90 miles from Pebble Mine. While WE are 90 miles away, the salmon spawning grounds are right there. Sort of an important note, yeah? We have a $1.5 billion fishing industry, the world's LAST intact salmon fishery; all the others having been destroyed in the last 200 years by mining, dams, pollution of rivers and streams, etc. If you've ever eaten wild salmon, it came from here.
WE went to the EPA, the citizens of Bristol Bay. They didn't come to us. We asked them to do a study. We did so because Pebble has been jerking us around since 1985, continuing to develop and drag their feet on filing for a permit or do an environmental impact study and to this day they have not shared their plan because they know they can't defend it. The EPA finally came and listened to public comments, both for and against and decided to conduct a study. They determined that Pebble was a significant risk, just the building and operation of it, alone. The mining operation would require they build their own power plant which would contaminate all its own, before any mining even starts, the water use, 85 million gallons annually, that is greater than the city of Anchorage, nearly a half million people. But, yes, they are 90 miles away.
And all that is if nothing goes wrong. Then you have the tailings pond holding back the sulfuric acid contents of a 3 mile wide open pit mine, that has to remain intact until the end of time, in the heart of earthquake country. Seem feasible to you?
Now, about that mine with its tailings pond. This bozo claims it's sand in that pond. Right. If it's just sand why would you build an enormous earth dam to hold it? What are they doing with the 80 million gallons of annually contaminated waste water? Are they going to put a roof over it to keep out the average 50 inches of rain and 91 inches of snow? This guy clearly doesn't want to talk about what is in that pond. I do! That pond (lake) is at the headwaters of 2 rivers that encompass HALF of the entire state's watershed which spans 40,000 square miles. But, again, it's 90 miles from my town! Why should I worry?
The EPA has the ability to preemptively stop a project. Otherwise why have a permitting process at all? Yet of the over 200 million requests, they've only exercised their preemptive power 14 times. We were the 14th. What happened in response? Pebble fired their CEO and hired this guy who is a Washington insider and he got 2 Senators to submit a bill removing the EPAs preemptive power. Obama's administration was NOT embarrassed, as this bozo claims. He just got in there and began buying dinners for his buddies.
It stinks, because there are only 8,000 of us in Bristol Bay, but we have no representation. That now belongs to corporations and Washington insiders.
Love your level headed RATIONAL thinking. Not everything should be decided based on how you identify politically.
It’s crazy we have lost our ability to think rationally. I live in the south surrounded by republicans. Believe in fiscal conservatism, believe in capitalism, but I also want clean water…. And air. The republicans, rather MAGA groupies that I know , they would cut off their nose to spite their face.
You're awesome Stossel!
Pebble Mine threatens Alaska's salmon in ways outsiders can't even begin to understand. Salmon are the arteries of our state giving nutrients and life to the entire ecosystem. The chain reaction of events that would follow after destroying a salmon population are literally apocalyptic for those ecosystems. Outsiders have no business dictating what goes on in our state, take your mining someplace else.
Electric cars are based on the TAXPAYER funding them ($7500 each car).
Can we get an update on the Pebble Project? Really enjoy your reporting and would love to hear your take and what's taken place over the last three years.
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These two retards who want to comment on a question not intended for them... 🤡 s
They believe nature is a god. They zealously worship that god. They believe themselves as gods.
And everything they do fountains forth from this belief.
Their god is _weak,_ considering that puny humans can kill it.
Well spoken
Trump should fire the entire EPA
Both Environmentalists & pro-miners should agree that environmental impact studies should be allowed to take place or else we won't know the effects of the mine.
This news clip is strait up mis information. Extensive and exhaustive studies have been done on the impact of this mine. The epa had to get involved and do their own because the mining company "Pebble" has consistently refused to release their studies and data. I wonder why.
@@curtisowen3233 exactly, fuck them. It is a Canadian mining company trying to ruin US lands for profit.
I wounder from where all that metal comes from for all those Wind Turbines, Solar Panels and next generation energy efficent cars... Hm...
I wonder if anyone ever called Ms. Stone, "church lady".
Carbon is a pollutant?? She's in for a surprise when she finds out where her fancy clothes, make up, and transportation came from, and that she actually breathes carbon and plants love it. And oil isn't life saving?? How about that life expectancy since before humans switched to oil? The infant mortality rate? Leaps in medical breakthroughs, and climate protection with clothes, homes, and central A/C?
If you believe this, you are massively guidable. To develop Pebble Mine is a sick perversion. The region provides more than 50% of the wild salmon we eat. Most Alaskans oppose the mine and all of mining companies are foreign. There are other places to mine, but not other places are productive for wild salmon.
As some one who is planning on going into pipeline welding I feel like I’m going to be screw over by shit like this
I despise the EPA, and I think that these folks in Alaska should be left alone to build their mine, but these pipelines are a different animal. The fact that they need to reach from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico just screams EXPORT. To supply our foreign competitors cheap energy. From a foreign country (Canada) to open waters for export. For a relative handful of jobs, many of which will be temporary. Just having a hard time seeing the big upside to the plebs in the U.S. on this one. If they had a refinery in the U.S. along the way, to supply cheap plentiful energy to the U.S. market, I'd be on board. The pipeline could also be MUCH shorter. This just smacks of more globalism and crony capitalism to me.
My organization is working on a plan for world peace, and imagine how many munitions manufacturers will be put out of business and how many jobs will be lost when world peace comes. Building bombs and missiles pays really well but I don't see how anyone can live with himself or herself when they put their own welfare over that of others.
The world is a closed ecosystem, and what happens in one location affects the entire planet. No one has the right to pollute the environment.
Imagine getting on your knees for a company that would ruin one of natures last pristine Ecosystems
$NAK to the moon ! let's go
I am so grateful the EPA is protecting the salmon in Bristol Bay. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for putting this up - I'd seen it once on the internet and could not find it again. Pulling for the locals on this. Thanks so much for investigating.
What locals? Did you go and ask?
The locals that are upstream from the proposed Pebble mine are in favor of the project. The locals that are downstream oppose the project. The project is at the headwaters of half the salmon-producing rivers that currently provides for about 15,000 - 20,000 jobs, while this proposed project brings in only 2,000 jobs. It is a great project, just not a very good location for it.
Did all the people going to one of the marches/protests or meetings walk or ride a horse ? Were they're homes warm and cozy heated by some type of Fossil Fuel or did they cut down trees ? If the people complaining were living like they were in the 1700's then maybe I'd sympathize. But they're not, they're enjoying every modern convenience known to man. Like Al Gore flying a private jet everywhere to talk about climate change. Where do you think the electric comes from for your E-cars ???
Exactly. And then the activists would be screaming about cutting down trees and the carbon emissions from burning them.
@@KMF3 Thanks
If only somebody had run for president that would have pushed back against this atrocity.
Oh yeah, Johnson did. But no way, two party system is best...
No no no. Its So the people that kill the fish for profit can still make money...
Thank God they stopped the pebble mine. If you think the environmental impact would've be nominal, or "not that bad". And that it would be worth it for the "jobs", you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. This is a puff peice produced by the mining companies no question. Go study more, and study the history of these kinds of mines and what happens EVERY SINGLE TIME a pit mine is abandoned, and its beyond destructive effect on waterways and communities after they're finished. A few people get rich now, and the rest of us pay for the upkeep in perpetuity. The pollution cannot be contained. And I'm no green fascist, im all for mining in many places, we need gold and copper. But this mine would be unbelievably disastrous to the ecosystem. Just imagine the Berkley pit mine, but 5 times the size right on the headwaters of your local largest river. It will cost more to contain (if it even is contained) then the wealth that will come out of it. Don't just watch this pro mining propoganda, learn more about it. Even pro mining republican congressmen in Alaska are adamantly against this mine. For very good reasons.
Restructure the epa and make it state controlled.
OklahomaBorn1970 Restructure the EPA and destroy it and make sure it never comes back
But our food can be sprayed with whatever
The guys name is Collier. Coal-ier. Mining is his heritage.
9:57 what is that thing called and where can I buy one?
Nitesh Kumar that’s a mini excavator but there are so many brands I can’t be much of a help.
When there newest smart phone cost 6k, watch what happen.
Aww, I am so disheartened. This is exactly what happened to the Navajo people and the EPA when they set to close the Navajo Generating Station. A whole town on the reservation is going to have to figure out other sources of income. This town was one of the few on the reservation where people had enough money to be considered "doing well". Trump tried to keep it open but it wasn't enough.
from the same dirtbags that say we need to "'protect" minorities and oppressed groups
Sheryl doesn't respect wood yet she protects this wood.
For Christ's sakes Sheryl
I love many of stossel’s videos but this video is very ignorant. Thousands of reports and projections show this to be a dangerous and threatening mine.
Tobin Pokrzywa
Then why would the EPA not WANT an environmental impact study done prior to rejecting the proposal outright?
If we “had enough oil” these people wouldn’t want to build the pipeline genius, there would be no incentive.
Now, without that pipeline, many Americans are freezing due to lack of ADEQUATE HEATING OIL AND GAS. We, I mean you Americans now need also Uranium and coal to meet the heating needs of an increasingly cooling global climate.
Look at this stock, look at the need for the American owned rare earths, how many of the folks who stopped it bought in cheap... then it will be greenlit later?
6:13 so his objection is not to destruction, but to profit. Good to know.
This mine will be a monstrous environmental disaster. Money Money, money. I guess that's all that matters. Here in Kentucky, there are poisonous holding ponds, mountain top mining provides no jobs and environmental disasters.
HONK!! HONK!! 🤡🤡
7:30 NOT IN MY BACKYARD!
Edit: When you get to when he said banana
I HEARD GOLD!!!!
Nothing else matters!
1,000 shares on NAK, let's get this mine under way boys I gotta eat.
thank God that Donald Trump is deregulating a lot of these useless programs.
9:38 - Best part!
Mine pebble
I think you got this one wrong. You need to do a little more research John. This is about federal government trying to tell people what they can do with their land. The real benefactor is Canada's corporation not Americans
B.A.N.A.N.A... LOL
Over 150 million has been spent on environmental studies at the Pebble Mine in Alaska which is 100 miles away from Bristol Bay. WAY more studies will happen during permitting and if it's so bad they won't get a permit. Free the Pebble Mine, the precious metals are MEANT to be mined. #PebbleMine #NAK #NorthernDynastyMinerals #Hag2:8
Pebble mine would be 90 miles from Bristol Bay, but not from where the salmon spawn. If you knew anything about salmon you would know that sockeye spawn in creeks off lakes. At the top end of one of the rivers is lake Iliamna where millions of salmon will spawn every year. Oh FYI lake Iliamna is the large lake close to the mine. I suppose you didn’t know that either.
If it's as bad as some claim then Northern Dynasty Minerals shouldn't get a permit. The studies to determine the effect on the environment should be allowed to take place. It's worth mentioning that Northern Dynasty Minerals/Pebble Mine pays for these studies.
"The precious metals are meant to be mined?" Who the fuck are you to decide that? Precious consumer of things?
It's just my opinion based on common sense. The metals are valuable and have practical uses such as copper in technology.
Metals aren’t meant to be mined. We’ve just extracted, purified, & manipulated the elements to suit our needs. Metals would like to be rusty in a exposed natural state but we work against that.
Just know this video is misleading and does not show the true belief of the majority of people who live in Bristol Bay.
Remember, slap an environmentalist hippie you know today!
Here after the keystone pipeline got canceled again
in Canada I mine pebbles everyday in my front yard, America is weird
I have lost all respect for this man now. This is some cherry picked facts. The vast majority of Alaskans, me included, are heavily against this. Go to igiugig and see what they say. Go to King Salmon and see what they say. The fact they lie about how “safe” tailings ponds are. Just as a former miner that is obviously bull shit.
Agreed. All the legit mining companies have abandoned the project, the finances of Northern Dynasty are in shambles, they can't do the environmental paperwork correctly or thoroughly, they would seriously endanger the wildlife of the region... they're a failed company.
You all are buying this commercial? Any of you remember the earthquake in '64? How many disasters will it take before people realize that the corporations will say and do anything to earn a killing? This is short-term thinking! Poor United States has to risk harming one of the most proficient fishing industries in the world to help out poor people with temporary jobs.
Poor people want money? Okay, you just have to make the rich richer while doing it.
Anyway, the people who enjoy the beauty of Bristol Bay are of the richest in the world. They don't need to risk it!!!
mine plz mine here in alaska our ecomomy is shit help us
democrats eating democrats...delicious!
the pebble mine will rule
The Bristol Bay Watershed is the most productive salmon habitat in the entire World! Nothing else like it on the face of the Earth - a living Gem, and a treasure which belongs to everyone. Anything threatening this rare ecosystem or potentially threatening this is a terrible idea! Bristol Bay is far too valuable to risk for lining the pockets for a few wealthy investors and creating temporary boom and bust mining jobs. The people of Bristol Bay don't want it, Alaskans don't want it, and most of America doesn't want it.
Just curious, HOW do you know what the majority of Americans want or feel?
No one has ever asked me about anything, and all of the people I know haven't ever been questioned about anything either.
So please understand that I questioned your statement and call B.S. on the statement as posed.
I want it to be mined. @kellypenrod2979
Nope we ain't risken it it's too dangerous for our sockeye and the'll never return
Save Bristol bay . Not worth the risk.
Is activists seem to think or would like to be God
EPAAA EPAAA EEEPAAAAA
Screw Pebble Mine.
usually Stossel is spot on. Not on this one. Pebble Mine is not good for Alaska or the Salmon.
I love how the pebble mine guy in this video talks about the mines in Frazer, BC. and how safe they are next to a major salmon river... they had a huge spill there about a year ago.
But the EPA didn't even investigate the danger of the mine before they cancelled it?
Chris Minneapolis ya... you obviously know what you are talking about....perhaps you are a biologist, scientist, or something that would make your opinion credible. Mines, especially ones that you would have to basically create a whole new lake to try to recreate a new spawning place for sockeye salmon because you would be mining their spawning area are bound to have problems. Seeing how a majority of Alaskan salmon sold on the market today are from Bristol bay... Pebble sounds like a awesome idea...
Mac_ That's because it's a no-brainer.
Stossel is spot on here as well. DUE PROCESS is all that he's asking. Simply perform the study BEFORE making a decision.
Pebble is a scam, the mine doesn’t work. The CEO is blaming the EPA, but the real issue is they made a bad bet on the project.
How about stopping chemtrails?
Bristol Bay must be protected! Say no to the pebble mine! This video is propaganda complete nonsense!
Daniel Roper ...................
All this video is advocating for is the fairness to actually *take a look at an environmental impact study* before just blatantly saying no to something just because you feel like it is bad and scary
Aahhhh first thumbs down. I respect Stossel, but this was definitely selectively edited to hell.
Fun fact: A poll showed that >70% of people in Bristol Bay are against the Pebble Mine.
art garfunkel because they are misinformed about what would happen if the mined was open
Pretty ironic blaming media propaganda while commenting on a piece of media propaganda.
I'd think the people that live in Bristol Bay would understand the area better. For example...they know the mine is located at the HEADWATERS of Bristol Bay, meaning that pollution would get into the tributaries leading to the bay.
Stfu and get a real job the EPA should do it job of protecting the environment not shutting down everything simply because it might mess up one peice of grass you fucking libtard
Completely agree with you. Thanks for having an opinion that doesn't ignorantly try to degrade people for their facts. People truly dont understand the impacts something like this may have.
Chris Minneapolis That is just a blatant lie. Take it from someone who actually lives in the Bristol Bay Area, we oppose pebble mine. I eat salmon I myself help harvest al least twice a week and so does almost everyone else who lives here. Not only that but most people’s livelihood including my own depends on salmon. So before you decide what my opinion as a private citizen and the opinion of almost everyone else who lives here. Actually listen to our opinion.
This guy considers himself an environmentalist? He just wants to line his pockets at the expense of the habitat the community and the fish that will be affected.......to see that rich native woman crying and speaking on behave of a bunch of people who no doubt disagree with her..........Good for Trump for protecting the environment over the interest of fat cats who would no doubt destroy the environment for the opportunity to make a quick buck.
the EPA said no because they had already done years of search and held hearing about this topic. they agreed to protect the environment, protect the jobs of the fisheries, rather can let companies exploit it
One thing is that Alaska is Bloody huge. It's about half the size of the rest of the USA, I don't think a little mine would destroy all that.
MultiMedia XL You’re right it wouldn’t destroy all of Alaska, only the largest sockeye salmon run in the world.
Zachary Stanly then move the mine a bit, again, Alaska is bloody monstrous.
Zachary Stanly And also, you can start the mine and see what happens, if the salmon starts to dissappear, close the mine. Animals doesn't dissappear over night.
But Alaska is unused and uninhabited. If it’s was in a random spot in the tundra or a forest, that that wouldn’t do that much damage or have an effect. But pebble is planned at a spot of Salmon importance and a previous human presence living off it.
No more stossel
hahhahaha BANANA
rafael17264 best line of the video, hands down
yeah. funny.
The environmental alarmists in the comments are weird. They're saying that the mining does damage to the environment and that it's good that the project was stopped, but these same people probably advocate for EVs as an environmental alternative to gasoline powered cars. I don't know where activists think all the materials for their computerized cars come from .-.
of course she left the goverment before she gets indicted on criminal charges
“We need copper and gold” things need in technology and renewable energy
And also almost in all electornics
As long as mankind keeps fucking, there will never be enough! This raping of the earth, is not sustainable. And, let me remind you, mankind was here long before the industrial age. We can survive without a lot of the bullshit, that you think you need. Destroying my fishery for your Xbox, cellphone, and necklace, is a bad trade. Gold may be pretty, but try eating the shit!
Try living through any disease without the gold needed to create the machines and computers to find and research them lmao.
Humans barely survived before the age of technology.
BANANA;
Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody.
😂😂😂
Sieze the means of productivity
They don't make 'em like John Stossel anymore.
6:14 this bureaucratic oaf actually admits that he would regulate a volcano if he could.
Eliminate the entire EPA once and for all.
There are no government agencies that do what they're paid to do, absolutely none of them. EPA, FDA, FBI, CIA, none of them. These are just a few. None of them are in existence to protect Americans from certain hazards. They are there to waste our money. That's it.
The oil will make it's way down regardless. I guess activists prefer the more dangerous and carbon emitting process of using trucks to haul the oil.
It's about the beds Dudette. It's about The one and only Bristol Bay. Look at Brazil. Look at Ft Belnap. Look at Nevada.
Use your head for more than a hat rack.
Ignorant dems: "Obama never lied"
Obama: "I WILL SIGN, THE BILL."
Also Obama: "Thank you, For your vote.... VETO'D,
I wonder if they did studies on the death of birds by windmills and solar farm
they did, they just ignore it cause its not convent
@@markfreeman4727 yesh ik, talk about nit picking ideas
They just ignore that because it’s an inconvenient truth that throws a wrench into their narrative so they just pretend it doesn’t exist.
Alaskans have been successful at doing both PRO-development and PRO- environment hence why we have the highest standards! Destroying one renewable resource for another that is ignorance!
We don’t crap in our kitchen!!
Repeating catastrophic failures and expecting different results without recognizing the insanity of it all isn’t an option in Bristol Bay!
5:06 What this guy said. Also that mini digger looks awesome!