The Battle Over 'Pebble Mine' in Alaska's Bristol Bay Region (full documentary) | FRONTLINE

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  • Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
  • Following the EPA’s January 2023 determination, revisit FRONTLINE’s look at a battle between those in Alaska who depend on Bristol Bay’s salmon fishery for a living and supporters of a proposed mine at the bay’s headwaters to extract mineral wealth. (Aired 2012)
    This journalism is made possible by viewers like you. Support your local PBS station here: www.pbs.org/donate​.
    The Bristol Bay region of southwest Alaska is home to the largest sockeye salmon fishery in the world. It’s also home to enormous deposits of copper, gold and molybdenum that have been estimated to be worth hundreds of billions of dollars. “Alaska Gold” delved into the complex fight over “Pebble mine,” including what happened when a group of Alaska Native tribes and commercial fishermen in Alaska petitioned the Environmental Protection Agency to intervene.
    “This - I believe this will be the biggest environmental fight of this century for Alaska,” former Alaska State Senator Rick Halford, a Pebble mine opponent, told FRONTLINE in the 2012 documentary.
    “Alaska Gold” is a FRONTLINE production with Kenneth Levis Productions, LLC. The writer and producer is Kenneth Levis. The co-producer is Aaron Ernst. The reporter is Blaine Harden.
    Explore additional reporting on "Alaska Gold" on our website, including a look at the EPA’s January 2023 “final determination” on Pebble mine:
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    CHAPTERS:
    Prologue - 00:00
    The Divide Over Alaska’s Proposed ‘Pebble Mine’ - 00:50
    What Are the Risks of Mining at Bristol Bay’s Headwaters? - 18:42
    Permitting ‘Pebble Mine’ - 35:42
    The EPA Steps in to the ‘Pebble Mine’ Battle - 45:10
    Credits - 52:02

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  • @frontline
    @frontline  Рік тому +93

    Read the latest on where the proposed 'Pebble mine' stands: to.pbs.org/3DWkuU9

    • @cherylrleigh1912
      @cherylrleigh1912 Рік тому +26

      Thank you, Frontline. God bless, America!!!!! God save Bristol Bay Salmon!!!!!

    • @vytallicaq.6881
      @vytallicaq.6881 Рік тому

      You need to rework your documentary on the FED Frontline. It falls woefully short. It implies that we need to maintain this precarious balancing act to avoid disaster. It already IS a disaster, and their slow, cautious approach is only prolonging the financial agony people are currently suffering through. My parents built a nice house in 1965 for just $25,000. According to Zillow, that now 58 year-old house is worth over $600,000. Nice houses like that would STILL be that affordable today, had congress and the FED agreed back then to keep the supply of money BALANCED with the supply of houses. When you inflate the money supply BEYOND the rate of production, you get inflated prices. Too much money bidding up the price of too few houses. That equation applies to ALL products and services. But the price of housing has the BIGGEST impact on everyone's financial stability, so they should primarily focus on that. If they notice the price of homes going up, they should ALWAYS reduce the money supply to deflate those prices back to their original level. The prices of homes are WAY too high today. Too many people can't afford them. They SHOULD crash the economy. They should dramatically shrink the money supply to deflate those prices. Yes, it would cause a lot of unemployment for the next few years, and many people would have to live in their cars. But houses would finally become affordable for the paycheck-to-paycheck crowd during the recovery. It's the ONLY way they will ever achieve financial stability. They'll just have to bite the bullet. No pain, no gain. Congress recklessly expands the money supply to make the instant gratification crowd happy. This detestable paradigm MUST END. Congressmen should EARN their votes, not BUY them.

    • @ADAMJWAITE
      @ADAMJWAITE Рік тому +11

      @@measl In our current age of biased reporting being the standard, Frontline seems to do a better job of balanced journalism then most other sources from what I've seen. Is there something specifically you can point to? In this case, I've worked in Dillingham, spoke to the locals about the subject and am neither a proponent or opponent of the mine. It's definitely a complicated issue and I think Frontline did a fair job of showing both sides without pushing one or the other. Ultimately, a report should encourage the viewer to make up their own mind.

    • @paintedwings74
      @paintedwings74 Рік тому +16

      So glad you did this report back then; thank you for re-running it now. I hope the judgment of the Biden Administration stands forever.

    • @TheBmco99
      @TheBmco99 Рік тому

      There could be a equal medium on these deals I know this for a fact you don’t just shut one industry down for another you meet in the middle and figure it out and no, we will never let them destroy. The salmon runs if it takes them longer to mine, so be it but let them mine it but at a safe level. And maybe make them contribute some of the money they make off of these mines for rehab in other areas in the United States like the Columbia river gorge or other places in Alaska. Never let them process the ore by waterway make them haul it out. Then process it three more years Trump will be in and this mine will go to keep in mind. Trump is levelheaded if they went to Trump and proposed to do it right it would do be done right where the salmon will survive. This EPA is Bidens, EPA, and the greenies nobody else’s Trump will dissolve them once back at office. It will be a good thing for America. In the end there we’ll the problems that can be worked two most important. Don’t let them try to mind at all at one time, slow.

  • @filbertpax3300
    @filbertpax3300 Рік тому +263

    The perfect beauty of that land is " it's self a buried treasury for our childrens' childrens, a gold mine that is beyond priceless...no amount of dollars could ever replace "....our unborn generation deserves to have such beauty in their lifetime...

    • @Drunken_Master
      @Drunken_Master Рік тому +2

      They will have VR.

    • @randyspencersr.4927
      @randyspencersr.4927 Рік тому +1

      @@Mr.Phoreskin Only if you already have them or they're on the way because the way the last couple generations are acting the last few years, I don't see any of them getting off their asses to even reproduce and if by chance an accident happens, they'll want to abort it. I have grandchildren from 13- 6 months and know I won't live long enough to see great grandchildren, the only downside of waiting until I was 25 to make my 1st child of 6

    • @Mr.Phoreskin
      @Mr.Phoreskin Рік тому +1

      @@randyspencersr.4927 that is awful but so true 😢

    • @daveyd0071
      @daveyd0071 Рік тому

      @@Drunken_Master 😂

    • @mohdfahmi8841
      @mohdfahmi8841 9 місяців тому

      Ai....

  • @edouardgluck9588
    @edouardgluck9588 Рік тому +295

    The greatest thing about watching this story, after being moved early on by the plight of the fishermen, and the salmon- was to put it on pause, and google “what it the status of the Pebble Mine?” and can’t even begin to express how apropos and happy it made me to see this scar on the earth was finally stopped just 2 weeks ago. The power of the internet in its purest form. ❤

    • @petermgruhn
      @petermgruhn Рік тому +11

      This post says it all.

    • @edouardgluck9588
      @edouardgluck9588 Рік тому +14

      @@petermgruhn it made watching the rest so much more enjoyable Peter- knowing that all the pontification and protestation from Dynasty was going nowhere. Fast. ❤️

    • @smirky101
      @smirky101 Рік тому +9

      Now that i read your comment, I'm happy too.

    • @BuffaloNickel9
      @BuffaloNickel9 Рік тому +1

      Woooohooo good to read!.. those greedy filthy scums want to turn everything into their personal garbage pail...
      With the deposit worth that much I'm sure we haven't heard the last of it and they'll keep fighting unfortunately

    • @repentuklondonwatchman1373
      @repentuklondonwatchman1373 Рік тому +12

      HALLELUJAH. GLORY TO GOD.

  • @yellowtam
    @yellowtam 5 місяців тому +8

    Even if I'm from the Philippines, I am so very happy that the EPA finally put a stop to the threat of mining in Bristol Bay.

  • @rickford2697
    @rickford2697 Рік тому +43

    This is not an Alaskan issue it's a world issue. But we entrust you the citizens and residents there to guard such gift of nature.

    • @mohdfahmi8841
      @mohdfahmi8841 9 місяців тому

      Ai...

    • @mohdfahmi8841
      @mohdfahmi8841 9 місяців тому

      !!//¡//.

    • @jackmitton2534
      @jackmitton2534 8 місяців тому +1

      More concern for the fish and wildlife than the people - no offense - but you can't support human life without unpoisoned food and water resources.

  • @jamesschneider2091
    @jamesschneider2091 Рік тому +707

    "On January 30, 2023, EPA issued a Final Determination under its Clean Water Act Section 404(c) authority ... After extensive review of scientific and technical research spanning two decades, and robust stakeholder engagement, EPA has determined that certain discharges associated with developing the Pebble deposit will have unacceptable adverse effects on certain salmon fishery areas in the Bristol Bay watershed." The overwhelming probability based cost of the potentially catastrophic environmental impact exceeds all projected economic benefits beyond any reasonable doubt. 😊

    • @anthonymorales842
      @anthonymorales842 Рік тому +53

      EPA are using data that spans decades and nations . It is a extraordinarily rare for EPA to make the statement "beyond any reasonable doubt.

    • @dreamcatcher5502
      @dreamcatcher5502 Рік тому +12

      Is this true ???

    • @MsStephers
      @MsStephers Рік тому +18

      We should claim it anyway.
      And we shall reign victorious. Praise God!!!

    • @ToferPulp
      @ToferPulp Рік тому +73

      I feel so relieved that Pebble Co. has been stopped. I hope they'll stop appealing the numerous rejections they've received over the years. If they do, I will continue to write letters of protest exposing their junk science and hubris.

    • @tombragalone7250
      @tombragalone7250 Рік тому +68

      It is safe for now😊 but this water shed needs to be protected by some sort of law or act so that it can never be harmed in the future!!

  • @Be4Him66
    @Be4Him66 Рік тому +98

    Happy to see the EPA vetoed the Pebble Mine project! The salmon are here to stay, preserving tribal communities, commercial fishing, and the beauty of the land.

    • @Justslothin
      @Justslothin 5 місяців тому

      @@AmericanTraitors-GOPI love when the intellectually challenged self identify. You’ll grow a brain someday.

  • @homebuddha
    @homebuddha Рік тому +41

    I’m from Australia. Fascinating nail biting documentary showcasing the Alaskan natural heritage & fisheries channels for salmon. No matter what Pebble said the potential and highly probable catastrophic damage open mining would do to the vein safe water havens of salmon hatchlings was indisputable. No mining model in a wet environment has ever been made available to draw design and education from. That closed it immediately for me. I’m relieved the EPA vetoed the mine. While Pebble talked the talk you could feel they weren’t able to guarantee zero impact to the environment. Had it gone to permit they would have designed on paper everything possible to fulfil obligations. They would have been approved. We all know what’s on paper is one thing and the reality is something entirely different. Nature would have tested Pebbles 7.5 magnitude safety gap easily. The filings ponds would fail eventually. Mining corporations need to understand The richness of the area is not in the minerals beneath the soil, it’s the blood veins of life threading through it and it’s people who depend entirely on it. Enormous relief the treasures of Alaska will now be protected forever from ever becoming a mining district. To witness such a close call of that natural beauty coming so close to being threatened by corporate greed was difficult to stomach. I’m elated Pebble got sent packing!

    • @corbettshalejr1643
      @corbettshalejr1643 9 місяців тому

      Look at the history of disasters with Custic chemicals left behind and this mine will Produce Millions of tons of waste. In a giant pond held back by a dam that Will fail in a 9.0 EARTHQUAKE RICH STATE. Doesn't anyone Recall EARTHQUAKES? Those hundreds of miles of pipeline ? Research pipeline disasters . 10 billion tons of Toxic waste will destroy the environment and those hundreds of miles pipeline will fail.

  • @russellking9762
    @russellking9762 Рік тому +6

    from down here in New Zealand…we wish you people well in your fight..our hearts go out to you all God Bless

    • @880cutter
      @880cutter 6 місяців тому

      I admire the Kiwis , you have saved rivers and now given them rights ! THANK YOU for making sure Mother Earth has Humans to protect her

  • @gnb3472
    @gnb3472 Рік тому +378

    I live 3600 miles away in New Hampshire and I would be shouting from the rooftops if there was a proposed mine near one of my rivers. I've followed this issue for years and am 100% opposed to this - Thank you PBS for making this documentary.

    • @JamesMena-ym9vf
      @JamesMena-ym9vf Рік тому +7

      Please don't poison The Big Green!
      Proud dad visited many times but never again would fly into Manchester; was a nightmare reaching Dartmouth from there.

    • @oneviwatara9384
      @oneviwatara9384 Рік тому

      Western capitalism are literally destroyed the whole planet as we know it.

    • @pl-mn2ro
      @pl-mn2ro Рік тому +21

      Fish is food…..copper is poison

    • @adolfolerito6744
      @adolfolerito6744 Рік тому

      @@pl-mn2royou’re able to type this comment on this very device because copper exists… and I won’t even start to list the amount of essential medical appliances and electronics that rely on copper to function.

    • @pl-mn2ro
      @pl-mn2ro Рік тому +14

      @@adolfolerito6744 I see your point. However basically you can live by eating fish and you will die eating copper because it is not comestibles. The human can live without copper but not without food.

  • @vickimeyers2672
    @vickimeyers2672 Рік тому +696

    Five years years ago, I researched the Canadian based company wanting to open the Pebble Mine. This company has operated numerous mines in the Lower 48. While researching that company, I learned every tailing pond at every mine they operated FAILED, causing long-term pollution to the waters and ecology of the areas around the ponds. This is the primary reason I am against the mining project.

    • @atatterson6992
      @atatterson6992 Рік тому +29

      Can you please provide the source(s) of that info (every tailing pond failed)? That would be very useful information. Thanks!

    • @swmplvr
      @swmplvr Рік тому +12

      gasp! say it it isn't so! (sarcasm)

    • @matthewhoopes7757
      @matthewhoopes7757 Рік тому +11

      I'm not exactly doubting your findings but you should share where you got that information

    • @vickimeyers2672
      @vickimeyers2672 Рік тому +24

      @@matthewhoopes7757 my multiple hours of research was done at least 5 years ago. I looked up, online, the name of the Canadian mining company who wants to establish the Pebble Mine, then researched the mines they operate in the Lower 48. The fact their tailing ponds failed is a fact I won't forget. It's also a fact that made it difficult for those adversely affected by the pond failures (water pollution for one) to file suit because they'd have to file suit against a company headquartered in a foreign country.

    • @vickimeyers2672
      @vickimeyers2672 Рік тому

      @@atatterson6992 please read my response above to MatthewWhoopes. All of this information can be obtained online.

  • @miket7966
    @miket7966 11 місяців тому +3

    Thank God for the EPA .

    • @Gertieness
      @Gertieness 11 місяців тому

      Yes, WHEN they do their job 👍

  • @waynerobinson2236
    @waynerobinson2236 3 місяці тому +2

    Thumbs up for the EPA.

  • @Brandonishome2024
    @Brandonishome2024 Рік тому +78

    Thank you Epa for saving the land and water it means so much to the people of the earth and it is so important to preserve our land and fish and water

    • @staywoke2198
      @staywoke2198 Рік тому

      You are thanking the EPA? Lol. Palestine Ohio??

    • @PaulBrown-uj5le
      @PaulBrown-uj5le Рік тому +2

      @@staywoke2198 blame trump for that.

    • @staywoke2198
      @staywoke2198 Рік тому

      @@PaulBrown-uj5le 😂 you’re crazy, lady

    • @AA-iy4gm
      @AA-iy4gm Рік тому

      These corrupt projects are fueled by big money, EPA can't catch them all especially when Republicans are in charge because they often deregulate many EPA rules in place that are there to protect this land. It's all available on the internet to search for if someone is in denial.

    • @mohdfahmi8841
      @mohdfahmi8841 9 місяців тому

      Ai....

  • @petej.8676
    @petej.8676 Рік тому +166

    I lived in AK for 6 years....mat- su valley..my friends house had a little offshoot of the river running thru his property as did others in this little sub division in Wasilla..and when the salmon ran this little nothing ofva creek was stuffed with the reddest salmon you ever saw..just amazing ✌️

    • @primesspct2
      @primesspct2 Рік тому +4

      I dream of seeing them some day.

    • @lewisc9959
      @lewisc9959 Рік тому +2

      What Native American tribe(s) is your friend part of?

    • @roxieearly9484
      @roxieearly9484 Рік тому +5

      You were blessed to see such bounty provided by The Source , The One Creator, The Heavenly Father.

    • @lewisc9959
      @lewisc9959 Рік тому +5

      @M J Faulkner he lives in Native American land! North America is our Native American land! The white peoples land is in Europe.

    • @Magical_Thinking
      @Magical_Thinking Рік тому +1

      @@lewisc9959 : What’s the purpose of asking what tribe they’re from? There are many more white & non-native people living in Alaska than there are natives. I grew up in Alaska and I’m black. People from all over the world have immigrated there. Filipino’s, Mexicans, Vietnamese, you name it! Plus “natives” in Alaska aren’t just Indians. The Inuit’s (Eskimo’s) are plenty and they live lives of subsistence as well. Inuit’s are in the Northern part of Alaska, whereas Indians are in the Southeast Coastal regions of Alaska & Pacific Northwest of the lower 48.

  • @onikuman
    @onikuman Рік тому +2

    Great work Frontline PBS!

  • @johnmckinley8447
    @johnmckinley8447 Рік тому +6

    In Australia where I live we do not have any wild salmon. We farm salmon and describe them as ‘responsibly harvested’. we also import Norwegian farmed Salmon “the most toxic fish in the world”. Please protect your salmon rivers you are fighting a war for the whole planet. Thank you!

  • @angelbankslopez577
    @angelbankslopez577 Рік тому +108

    Thank you EPA for stepping in. Those are beautiful Alaskan Waters must leave untouched. All the way from the city of Boston.

    • @mikeking1948
      @mikeking1948 Рік тому +2

      👍👍 from Quincy too

    • @rickford2697
      @rickford2697 Рік тому +4

      All the way from Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹 🙌

    • @brendahubbard799
      @brendahubbard799 Рік тому +8

      The EPA got this one right!..too even consider to destroy north americas last wild salmon habitat just to line that mining companys pockets is a disgrace to all humanity !…Thank you EPA!

    • @Mrbfgray
      @Mrbfgray Рік тому +3

      Indeed. We used to have similar bounty almost yr round in the Columbia watershed, dams devastated that and the multi-millennia native's way of life along with a significant branch of orcas that depended on the huge salmon. Those dams are losing their use case and may eventually, foreseeably be removed. Salmon runs can quickly rebound when dams removed.

    • @djack915
      @djack915 Рік тому

      And NEW YORK CITY ❤

  • @cannoobin
    @cannoobin Рік тому +44

    Frontline always brings NEWS to people more than NEWS channels. keep on keeping on PBS

  • @scoobydoo7346
    @scoobydoo7346 Рік тому +2

    Thank goodness!!!

  • @Yobabywhatscrackin
    @Yobabywhatscrackin Рік тому +24

    I pray that this area gets protected!!!🙏 Money is not worth the amount of environmental damage this could all cause.

  • @mikepoole7043
    @mikepoole7043 Рік тому +157

    Lake illiamna should be a world heritage site because of the Salmon, the numbers of fish are absolutely phenomenal.

    • @garthwalker3488
      @garthwalker3488 Рік тому +10

      Dr Sylvia Earl has an Organization called Mission Blue, they take sensitive areas and make them "Hope Spots" and create a boundary and sacred space for the sea life to procreate untouched and spill over into the Oceans. This would be a prime spot, and I hope to make it a Hope Spot.

    • @JerryGarciaPOBox
      @JerryGarciaPOBox Рік тому +4

      Absolutely! It'd be the end of the giant, majestic Sockeye runs. With current prices for reds the fishery is already hurting. Bristol Bay is a national treasure!

    • @TheWestlandgirl
      @TheWestlandgirl Рік тому +1

      Let's make it so!!

    • @petermgruhn
      @petermgruhn Рік тому

      "world heritage site" means "somebody should steal this for me"

  • @diannenaworensky6698
    @diannenaworensky6698 Рік тому +1

    AMAZING work Mr. E.P.A. "Dude" !!!!!!

  • @deborahbouchard5475
    @deborahbouchard5475 21 день тому

    ❤ Thank you Frontline. This is very Educational thete are things here that I did not know

  • @wizardmack3551
    @wizardmack3551 Рік тому +63

    Thank you Frontline, your research and filming of this project were enlightening to the scope of power and influence that our modern society puts on the health of Planet Earth and the future of Humanity.

  • @stevecarlisle3323
    @stevecarlisle3323 Рік тому +26

    We had a HUGE copper mine here in Northern Vancouver Island, ISLAND COPPER, BHP. it ran for 25 years, and produced enough Gold to pay all operating expenses daily. It destroyed a huge
    area of Rupert Inlet, from dumping tailing back into the ocean. Dont let it Happen in ALASKA.

    • @Brandon.Nichols
      @Brandon.Nichols 8 місяців тому +1

      Probably the same scoundrels or their spawn

  • @trickbaby8441
    @trickbaby8441 8 місяців тому

    Thank God for the EPA. 🙏

  • @kingcharles7296
    @kingcharles7296 Рік тому

    Thank god for the EPA

  • @dsm.lovesoutside4496
    @dsm.lovesoutside4496 Рік тому +187

    This is really well done. Very educational. 👍 It's a terrible idea to mine this location.

    • @macrosellbrandmarketingsta9712
      @macrosellbrandmarketingsta9712 Рік тому +1

      ❤️

    • @fido3561
      @fido3561 Рік тому +13

      As the one fellow said, no matter what the intentions are, humans have always managed to mess it up. No truer words have ever been spoken.

    • @jackmitton2534
      @jackmitton2534 8 місяців тому +1

      More concern for the fish and wildlife than the people - no offense - but you can't support human life without unpoisoned food and water resources.

  • @XroorX
    @XroorX Рік тому +79

    “When the last tree Is cut down,
    the last fish eaten, and the last stream poisoned,
    you will realize that You cannot eat money”

  • @Gertieness
    @Gertieness 11 місяців тому +3

    This story is 11 years old and it appears the EPA stopped it for now, but there needs to be laws enacted that will stop this destruction from happening period. This Bristol Bay thing should have never been up for debate in the first place!

  • @fabianocunha4117
    @fabianocunha4117 Рік тому +2

    Muito bom esse documentário 😊

  • @fellspoint9364
    @fellspoint9364 Рік тому +94

    That mining executive was a skilled, professional liar to be hustling those people with a straight face.

    • @johnjaco5544
      @johnjaco5544 Рік тому +12

      That's why he was hired

    • @eversway7540
      @eversway7540 Рік тому +1

      Lol..I just starded reading the comments but i said similar.

    • @fellspoint9364
      @fellspoint9364 Рік тому +10

      @eversway7540 - I think it was the unblinking sociopathic stare that caught my attention. He was hell bent on driving home his agenda.

    • @eversway7540
      @eversway7540 Рік тому +3

      @@fellspoint9364 Lol...I forgot to mention as well, you're absolutely right. I was speaking about both of them.

    • @Scriptorsilentum
      @Scriptorsilentum Рік тому

      business is business. you can bet his greasy ass is so well-heeled you likely wouldn't believe what these mining corps are paying him.
      and the bastard does all this with a straight face and sleeps soundly all night long.

  • @TerlinguaTalkeetna
    @TerlinguaTalkeetna Рік тому +10

    As of Jan 2023 the EPA has stopped this project cold. 11 years after this was aired. That means years of court proceeding that will that will surely benefit several law firms....... Sanity has for the moment been upheld. The higher good has prevailed so far, knowing full well they will never stop trying to make this mine happen. Viva Alaska Viva Terlingua!

  • @isaacarkohgodson6006
    @isaacarkohgodson6006 Рік тому

    EPA you do all thank you

  • @thesybarite1
    @thesybarite1 10 місяців тому +4

    The EPA is a very unpopular agency but in this case their decision was incredibly wise. All those people who put profit ahead of all else need to look at our mining history and the damage mankind has already caused. The track record of mankind is incredibly abysmal. In time, technology will improve to the point where we can truly mine in a safe manner. But we are not there yet.

  • @johndewey6358
    @johndewey6358 Рік тому +75

    Please fight for healthy fisheries and our healthy environment as these are our true wealth.

    • @keathie101
      @keathie101 Рік тому +1

      Even if they gave everyone in Alaska twenty million dollars it won't worth it this is sad SMH

    • @garybulwinkle82
      @garybulwinkle82 Рік тому +3

      These tributaries produce protein that sustains a vital portion of Alaska's population of not only wildlife but humans too. If left, it will produce for many many years; it's an infinite resource for Alaska long into the future. The mining is a finite resource; once it's gone, and the money is spent, there is nothing left but the waste! So many areas of the world have been robbed of their resources and what has been left? Can they remove the mining resources without disturbing the fishery? What risk are they willing to take? The questions need to be answered, truthfully!

    • @TheWestlandgirl
      @TheWestlandgirl Рік тому

      @Nicholas #51 Nobody wants a strip mined ugly World to live in so we can have a "green" poisoned land.

  • @Fpvpilot928
    @Fpvpilot928 Рік тому +43

    Just a sigh of relief. The project was, in fact, vetoed by the EPA in 2023!

    • @konseptikonrekords
      @konseptikonrekords Рік тому +1

      Sorry. That won't stand in court. You should review the facts of how it was vetoed and see if you think that's a strong case.

    • @Fpvpilot928
      @Fpvpilot928 Рік тому +1

      @@konseptikonrekords It's already done, this went on for years already. Apparently you don't know the topic at hand here. First, asection 404(c) veto from EPA (they've used that 14 times and none have been overturned). Second, a permit denial from the Army Corps. Third, the Pebble corporation has been wholly and universally abandoned by all mining partners, and finally the successful funding last month of Pedro Bay Corp.’s agreement to sell for $20,000,000 a conservation easement over 44,000 acres, including lands that sought by Pebble for its preferred transportation and infrastructure corridor,
      Also, an investigation is pending, as the CEO of pebble was caught on camera trying to lure Chinese investors by claiming he would get a permit for a tiny 20 year permit which would just expand to ten times the size and environmental impact. There is no chance this mine will exist there. 😂😂😂

    • @adolfolerito6744
      @adolfolerito6744 Рік тому +1

      The project of the mine wasn’t vetoed by the EPA. What was vetoed is the request to dump the tailings on site (which are the main problem).

    • @smirky101
      @smirky101 Рік тому

      Sigh of relief that trump wasnt in office to overrule the EPA.

  • @TheDinkumAussie
    @TheDinkumAussie Рік тому

    Thanks Senator Roberts.

  • @larrylaird-so5oy
    @larrylaird-so5oy Рік тому +4

    Wonderful documentary and I hope the EPA will step in and stop this disaster from happening.....

  • @cherylrleigh1912
    @cherylrleigh1912 Рік тому +102

    We need a Bristol Bay Protection Act that ensures the salmon (a keystone species) is forever protected from current and future mining activity.

    • @MananiImapilJuWewe
      @MananiImapilJuWewe Рік тому +8

      YES! absolutely.

    • @kevintewey1157
      @kevintewey1157 Рік тому +1

      De growth

    • @ResortDog
      @ResortDog Рік тому

      Lets all stop the CCP commies over fishing in our territorial waters, HUH? FOCUS ON THE WORST OFFENDERS.

    • @gamerguy696
      @gamerguy696 Рік тому +5

      Exactly 💯 Some places need to stay off limit forever.

    • @Wutzmename
      @Wutzmename Рік тому +16

      There is. As of January, the US EPA made it known that Bristol Bay protections are in effect for as long as it's an act. Pebble Partnership has effectively been put out of this area. Also, this video is being re-aired from 2012 in light of the 10 year fight over this.

  • @MananiImapilJuWewe
    @MananiImapilJuWewe Рік тому +26

    Educate. Organize. Mobilize. Support. When and if you are hungry, I hope you will not be eating your cup of copper but you will be eating your cup of delicious Salmon: Thank you, PBS.

  • @chuckmorton8823
    @chuckmorton8823 Рік тому +114

    Man's greed knows no bounds ... this mine is a bad idea at every level

    • @tombragalone7250
      @tombragalone7250 Рік тому +12

      Totally agree, those people are only concerned with lining their pockets and care not about the future of this place!!

    • @browngreen933
      @browngreen933 Рік тому +3

      I'm glad nothing you own or use has copper in it.

    • @chuckmorton8823
      @chuckmorton8823 Рік тому

      @@browngreen933 Sounds like you bought into the industry propaganda

    • @questjones6181
      @questjones6181 Рік тому +12

      @@browngreen933 What kind of statement is that. Come on!! Every person on this planet owns something with copper in it. That doesn’t mean that every place with a deposit of valued minerals should be excavated. The deposit should be evaluated and weighed against the negative effects of that location. This had to be Jethro Bodean with his 6th grade education with a statement like that. Hang in there buddy and find someone trust worthy that can do your thinking for you. No offense!

    • @alanbell6999
      @alanbell6999 Рік тому

      Best go to the Congo

  • @donaldkunkel
    @donaldkunkel 10 місяців тому +1

    this is the best news for stopping the mine due to the fact the pollution from the mine glad it got stopped thank you don kunkel napa california

  • @fabianocunha4117
    @fabianocunha4117 Рік тому

    Ficou muito fascinado com as belezas do Alaska sempre

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    @gretchenjessy5782 Рік тому +478

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  • @BristolBerg
    @BristolBerg Рік тому +15

    I will support PBS till the day I die.
    🔥 PBS/DW ❤❤

    • @ZMAN_420
      @ZMAN_420 Рік тому +1

      ABSOLUTELY 100% ! 👍🏻🇺🇲

  • @aaronvu6292
    @aaronvu6292 11 місяців тому +1

    "We smart enough to know that we're not smart enough." That's such a wise statement that I wish most leaders in the world would accept the term, and look for inputs from others.

  • @id10t98
    @id10t98 Рік тому +4

    Preserve it. I spent most of my life in Alaska and there is no reason to destroy this fish habitat and trust me, the mining companies will indeed destroy it.

  • @mossylog
    @mossylog Рік тому +30

    Any project which will require "10,000 years" of constant, uninterrupted, unfailing, perfectly executed remediation should be laughed out of the room. They should not even have been allowed to get this far with their foolish and hubristic plan. These people saw the potential profits and all sense and reason went out of their minds.

  • @KenImduaikiat
    @KenImduaikiat Рік тому +21

    Gold / copper mining and refining are one of the most poisionous business I know.

    • @linqua1728
      @linqua1728 Рік тому

      Actually 3rd world countries small miners are extracting concentrates then using boric acid to more efficiently smelt it by lowering melting points. A much cleaner sustainable process. Gold is deposited because it was dissolved during continental plate grinding, so pit miners today saturate 99.7 of the material with acid again to extract the metal again. Savages? Not high tech at all.
      They make mining look worse than it could be. That area can sustain some mining, but not with chemical extraction - which should be banned in watershed areas, put it on a train and process it else where. The other problem with pit mines is they recompose some acids by exposing soils after being buried hundreds of years. Without dump trucks of baking soda I don't see how to safely mine those areas with what is patented or in use today.

    • @danielelliott3659
      @danielelliott3659 Рік тому +1

      Second only to politics

  • @ninetailscosmicfox5585
    @ninetailscosmicfox5585 Рік тому

    Hooray for Bristol Bay!

  • @alekseyseliverstov3693
    @alekseyseliverstov3693 9 місяців тому

    Чисто кайфовые завозы) все как я люблю. Почаще делай такие видоски бро

  • @kbkatherineb3944
    @kbkatherineb3944 Рік тому +152

    This is arguably the last clean protein source in the world and the last pristine wilderness. It is sacred to the local people and should be to the entire world. Shivery came to Alaska many decades ago as a Vista volunteer, and it seems has figured out how to make it pay

    • @LIZZIE-lizzie
      @LIZZIE-lizzie Рік тому +1

      Great comment! Explains something about Shivery, huh?!

    • @jamespoon2656
      @jamespoon2656 Рік тому

      The Pebble people talk about jobs jobs jobs but they ONLY care about the huge payday for themselves. The jobs angle is only public relations baloney. When the copper is gone AND the fish are gone then how will people in the region pay for their gas and internet bill. It's killing the goose that played the golden egg in the form of salmon. Is anything sacred anymore in America besides money?

    • @terllcompton3116
      @terllcompton3116 Рік тому +7

      That land needs to be protected by the people

    • @oxycotin
      @oxycotin Рік тому +1

      Yea but when north america was hitting south america from behind with no lube , no one was saying anything about “sacred”

    • @billdavis6978
      @billdavis6978 Рік тому +1

      Poor Bears. It’s like we want to make it harder on wildlife and people to live off the land for something in the ground.

  • @robertkreitz589
    @robertkreitz589 9 місяців тому

    Love this documentary. Can anyone suggest similar films?

  • @880cutter
    @880cutter 6 місяців тому +1

    We need to do the same thing that the people of New Zealand did. They got the get to realize that life is water and water is life … I commend them for such values and hope the rest of the world wakes up to that concept !

  • @dreamcatcher5502
    @dreamcatcher5502 Рік тому +62

    SOCKEYE SALMON ARE PRICELESS !!! NO AMOUNT OF COPPER OR GOLD WILL EVER BE WORTH AS MUCH AS THE SALMON !!! ❤

    • @heatherstewart9300
      @heatherstewart9300 Рік тому +4

      ...Or all the other wildlife that would be effected. You mess with ONE part of an ecosystem, you mess with the entire ecosystem. :(

    • @janettomlin950
      @janettomlin950 Рік тому +1

      AMEN

    • @mr.realdeal6779
      @mr.realdeal6779 Рік тому

      Dam some salmon give me riches

  • @Bryan-yf5yq
    @Bryan-yf5yq Рік тому +76

    Once they extract everything from the mine, what then? It’s best to preserve the near infinite fish supply over these finite pebbles

    • @mjones6115mj
      @mjones6115mj Рік тому +7

      Look at butte Montana Berkeley pit

    • @12time12
      @12time12 Рік тому +2

      @@mjones6115mjyep, it’s a mess. These companies extract everything of value and abandon it to tax payers. The president should make it a national monument to stop the Canadian miners imo.

    • @mjones6115mj
      @mjones6115mj Рік тому +7

      @@12time12 agreed

    • @paintedwings74
      @paintedwings74 Рік тому

      @@mjones6115mj or just look at Kennecott's Bingham Copper Mine in Utah. That thing has every attribute an open pit mine could have going for it to be "harmless" to the environment. Is it harmless? Ha. No. "Kennecott's copper mine concentrators, power plant and smelter is the leading facility for toxic releases in the state of Utah" releasing 6250 pounds of lead into the air ANNUALLY, and poisoning the watershed that DOES EXIST, despite the false assertion that being in a dry area would prevent water contamination.

    • @ronpflugrath2712
      @ronpflugrath2712 Рік тому +2

      They lock gold in a vault somewhere and the fish are dead

  • @johnhenry2265
    @johnhenry2265 Місяць тому

    Oh cool , I’ll watch this a little later 👍

  • @twillison8824
    @twillison8824 Рік тому +2

    From a miner and an outdoorsman, the proposed pebble mine should never be allowed to go forward. The mine I work for is an open pit limestone quarry. Our reclamation program is amazing, to start with are monocrop agriculture fields. When we're done, there is a mix of grasslands, wetlands, and eventually wooded areas. This is fantastic for wildlife with the mixture of open grass and wooded habitat. We have a wide variety of wild animals on the property and get a massive influx of migratory birds annually. We don't have the potential to cause a massive disaster like what would likely happen with this proposed mine though, there's simply too much at stake to risk it.

  • @GerhardEbersoehn
    @GerhardEbersoehn Рік тому +27

    Hands off Alaska! from Souty Africa with love

  • @garmd4953
    @garmd4953 Рік тому +41

    I love Alaska. Wished I spent my youth there.

    • @bmwbmw3553
      @bmwbmw3553 Рік тому +1

      I think alaska were rusian property .

    • @user-cm4uy9bu4s
      @user-cm4uy9bu4s 9 місяців тому

      No, you don’t. Our schools are atrocious and a significant number of Alaskans place little to no value on education.
      Which is why so many of us move up from the lower 48 and have such an easy time taking all of the highest paying jobs.

    • @880cutter
      @880cutter 6 місяців тому

      I recently went to Alaska and met some of the Natives .You can feel their connection to the EARTH, THEY LISTEN to Mother Earth ,they feel her in their souls .what an amazing place and people. We need to help them protect the land

  • @drewmurph2018
    @drewmurph2018 Рік тому +2

    They are still fighting against this.... got a chance to fish last summer in bristol bay... great experience

  • @jamieday6602
    @jamieday6602 11 місяців тому +1

    Keep Alaska wild!

  • @knightrider693
    @knightrider693 Рік тому +11

    This was incredibly well put together. PBS is the standard

  • @SpecialSP
    @SpecialSP Рік тому +21

    The salmon need to do more than "exist," they need to thrive …

  • @miguelamaya6246
    @miguelamaya6246 11 місяців тому

    GOD BLESS, Y'ALL...

  • @tracyeeten8759
    @tracyeeten8759 Рік тому +4

    The lose of the wetlands alone is unthinkable. Alaska is one of the world's last frontiers of wilderness that is truly wild and untouched still that's what I love about it there is a place were we as humans have not destroyed or ruined from bar greed having a shame.

    • @tracyeeten8759
      @tracyeeten8759 Рік тому +2

      What gets big business the right to destroy a habitat a way of life and the ecosystem

    • @mohdfahmi8841
      @mohdfahmi8841 9 місяців тому

      Ai....!?//!//¡//...

    • @vyhozshu
      @vyhozshu 9 місяців тому

      @@tracyeeten8759 capitaI.

  • @robertlavrakas7442
    @robertlavrakas7442 Рік тому +15

    I lived fairly close to this area for many years.I was a commercial fisherman and everyday was amazed at what I saw.Just leave the the land alone!

  • @maxx420
    @maxx420 Рік тому +10

    We cant give up wilderness for $$. The wild life is the gold

  • @Dragonfly_vbz
    @Dragonfly_vbz 11 місяців тому

    Life is priceless. Period. Learn from our mistakes.

  • @dantirk4560
    @dantirk4560 5 місяців тому

    I find it outrageous and absurd that a project of this scale would even be proposed in this region. I applaud the EPA for doing its due diligence and research, I completely agreed with their assessment.

  • @tombragalone7250
    @tombragalone7250 Рік тому +35

    It will only take one accident to destroy a one of a kind echo system not just a fishery. there are too many variables to consider and the long term risk isn’t worth the short term benefit.
    PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, DONT DO IT ALASKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Much love from Michigan.

    • @Ucfahmad
      @Ucfahmad Рік тому +6

      Conservative or liberal surely we can all agree on this one right? You can keep your contempt of the EPA and still support this ecosystem.

    • @d.froggiez369
      @d.froggiez369 Рік тому +4

      @@Ucfahmad Absolutely!!
      I really worry for those who still want the mine after being educated by this video (many have done their own research 💚) on the disastrous consequences it would cause.
      I personally can't stand our beautiful Earth being destroyed.

    • @TheWestlandgirl
      @TheWestlandgirl Рік тому +1

      Should be non political because it affects us all. We celebrate this decision!

    • @tombragalone7250
      @tombragalone7250 8 місяців тому

      True but the EPA is a racket, they allow pollution and just collect money for it as if it were a business

  • @parkerxgps8101
    @parkerxgps8101 Рік тому +28

    Its impossible to mine without effecting the local environment. Land is only pristine once.
    Of course there are ways to invest enough to ensure that but, seems to not be a goal. An open pit among the melting perma frost is madness.

  • @donaldkunkel
    @donaldkunkel 5 місяців тому

    US EPA AS I AM AMERICA INDIAN MY SELF THIS IS WONDERFULL FOR YOUR DECISON THANK YOU DON KUNKEL NAPA CA

  • @sachinchenglei3012
    @sachinchenglei3012 Рік тому +1

    No mining or whatever on Alaska region please keep it clean as always as before Full support from a small city Imphal

  • @curtisowen3233
    @curtisowen3233 Рік тому +20

    Oh yeah, a pit mine with toxic heavy metal lakes. That's always worked out just great...

  • @michaeloconnor1479
    @michaeloconnor1479 Рік тому +4

    Another great documentary from Frontline (PBS). Don't forget to help support such a noble cause.

  • @markcampbell7577
    @markcampbell7577 10 місяців тому +3

    The salmon and coral speak to us and if they didn't we would sll be dead . The treatment of the water and the handling of the amount of water is the crucial to co-existence if co-existence is unavoidable. It is thoughtless to mine something as common as copper or iron in sn environment as wet as Alaska or the tropics

  • @ccbc5780
    @ccbc5780 11 місяців тому

    Thank you EPA. To those who opposed this intervention I hope you see how you cant feed on money and how long perpetual monitoring really is.

  • @jameshw9751
    @jameshw9751 Рік тому +5

    Another great episode of Frontline. Everyone should be watching these.

  • @nikmohamed5906
    @nikmohamed5906 Рік тому +39

    The corporation of course won't tell you this ugly fact:
    For literally 100 years after the mine is closed, The leftover mine tailing will leach acid into the groundwater, and the entire river system downstream. and all the fish will definitely die. and the Alaskan Natives who depended on the fishes for thousands of years will have their way of lives destroyed forever

    • @brega6286
      @brega6286 Рік тому +3

      And today those who want just jobs and not traditional life should leave and get jobs elsewhere.

    • @m17a4y
      @m17a4y Рік тому +1

      Include all the wild life as well that feed from the salmon

  • @purificationroque5255
    @purificationroque5255 3 місяці тому

    This place is very lucky ❤️

  • @user-ji2rf5ec2t
    @user-ji2rf5ec2t 10 місяців тому

    It's a must to keep any mining activity in this area the hell out of this area at all costs Alaska you got your hands full

  • @SinCityRaider81
    @SinCityRaider81 Рік тому +19

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska (KTUU) - The Biden administration struck a blow to mining development in the Bristol Bay watershed Tuesday with the announcement of a final determination that works to protect wild salmon fisheries in the region, essentially stopping the development of the Pebble Mine. Jan 31, 2023

  • @zulymaritzacalixflores3906
    @zulymaritzacalixflores3906 Рік тому +18

    Thank you much for the effort you put on making these documentaries!!! I might haven't gone up to that north and what I know of it is because of brave people who dare against of all odds determine to save the beautiful planet The Almighty One has allowed us to live in.... and for just another short period of time!!! Let's take heed of it!!!! Shalom!!!!!

  • @greigfitzgibbon2629
    @greigfitzgibbon2629 Місяць тому

    Good luck with that Alaska!

  • @jenetealvesdossantos6125
    @jenetealvesdossantos6125 10 місяців тому +1

    Sou da América do Sul meu sonho é viver em um lugar desse amo a natureza se existisse vida após a morte gostaria de voltar como um lobo outro animal e viver no Alasca tenho sonho com esse lugar desde pequena sem saber que lugar existia eu conheci em sonhos desde meus 5 anos de vida ❤🥰

  • @arkonshaw3592
    @arkonshaw3592 Рік тому +20

    Salmon will last for another thousand years ore more, if preserved well. The mine will not last more then fifty years, the most part of the money will be gone and in the pockets of outsiders. And after that, there will be a wider wasteland for centuries. That does not sound like a good deal.

    • @marcuscato3599
      @marcuscato3599 Рік тому

      The Anchorage explotive, non native class of Alaskans do not care. They are only in Alaska to get the resources.

  • @quivalla
    @quivalla Рік тому +55

    On January 30, 2023, EPA issued a Final Determination under its Clean Water Act Section 404(c). It determined the Pebble deposit will have unacceptable adverse effects on certain salmon fishery areas in the Bristol Bay watershed. Its only the 3rd time in 30 years, (the fourteenth time in the history of the Clean Water Act) that EPA has used this authority.

    • @jandyg
      @jandyg Рік тому +6

      Thank you for the update.
      Good news in my opinion. I’m no where near an environmentalist. By far! But this is a far to important food source for the whole world. Let alone the economic impact to millions if there were to be issues.

    • @anthonymirkovich5156
      @anthonymirkovich5156 Рік тому

      This is an old documentary or old info ..

    • @anthonymirkovich5156
      @anthonymirkovich5156 Рік тому

      I’m a Bristol bay fisherman

    • @KS-yc8di
      @KS-yc8di Рік тому +1

      @@anthonymirkovich5156 what's the local sentiment like for pebble? I would assume you're all opposed to this right? I hope this mine doesn't get built personally.

    • @jimcarrington6744
      @jimcarrington6744 Рік тому +1

      @@KS-yc8di Anthony is a dishonest troll, & probably paid by this greedy mining company, not a fisherman & not from the bristol bay area. Money is the root of all evil today.

  • @ralphcantrell3214
    @ralphcantrell3214 Рік тому +1

    It has all been done before. Just study the Copperhill mine and the Ocoee River in Tennessee to find out what happens to fish in the vicinity of a copper mine.

    • @djack915
      @djack915 Рік тому

      I looked at Cooper Tennessee , water and whole environment- very sad 😢

  • @mfreel1657
    @mfreel1657 10 місяців тому

    Build it!

  • @billywymarra682
    @billywymarra682 Рік тому +17

    What an awesome God given landscape.Praying it stays that way for good!

    • @lewislinzy3437
      @lewislinzy3437 Рік тому

      Commercial fishermen will destroy it just like other places. It's just a matter of time. GREED and netters have that result.

    • @jeremyncrm2012
      @jeremyncrm2012 Рік тому

      @@lewislinzy3437you may be right, but there are people who fight for good as well.

  • @emiliorosa9896
    @emiliorosa9896 Рік тому +23

    Thank you Frontline for amazing information n always getting the truth out there. No Greed over wildlife all humans being need the wildlife

    • @politican4thepeople303
      @politican4thepeople303 Рік тому +1

      Must be crazy to think that a acid mine in the heart of salmon world..Yea right. Rich want to stay rich

    • @emiliorosa9896
      @emiliorosa9896 Рік тому

      @Politican4thePeople no. Negative words please. Don't care about your negatively

  • @paulgarcia458
    @paulgarcia458 Рік тому

    I want it all!!! Buckets of smoked fish dip, n truck loads of copper!!

  • @BadMrFrosty999
    @BadMrFrosty999 Рік тому

    You have to be absolutely crazy to allow mining in that pristine land!

  • @marcosgrassi4089
    @marcosgrassi4089 Рік тому +6

    awesome documentary as usual ,. thx PBS frontline

  • @murraydyck2127
    @murraydyck2127 Рік тому +16

    I live in a area where mining has impacted the land . The area was mined for 35 years. Two gold mines were in the city limits. A byproduct of the mining process is arsenic. At one mine there is 237 tones stored in a underground stope . It is permanently frozen to keep it from leaking into the water table. The mine is right on the north shore of Great Slave Lake one of the biggest freshwater lakes in the world. It is said that the arsenic will have to be monitored for life . The arsenic has the capacity to kill the world population three times over.

    • @zooski1516
      @zooski1516 Рік тому

      Thank you for sharing.

    • @nekahill359
      @nekahill359 10 місяців тому +1

      Wow and that near a lake ...

    • @astrologerclimatewitness3787
      @astrologerclimatewitness3787 4 місяці тому

      😯And...wait till we begin to have shortages of oil...to keep it frozen ..that's all be a trick...

  • @rickford2697
    @rickford2697 Рік тому +2

    Only greed would destroy our home for money 💰 🤑. I'm in Trinidad 🇹🇹 and it's disgusting to hear that such greedy mining is even being pursued at the expense of nature and the environment.

  • @metalstorm45
    @metalstorm45 Місяць тому

    Mining engineer here in Australia. Delighted to hear this mine did not go ahead. It would have been an environmental disaster. EPA made the right decision! Go and find another deposit thats not located in such an environmentally sensitive area.