This was before the January 2023 pistol brace ruling, but part of my motivation to SBR these was knowing eventually the ATF would pull a stunt like they did in January of 2023 and that wait times would likely surge. I still believe it’s outrageous this is even necessary.
The moment the ATF makes me a criminal overnight by making pistol braces stocks, I'm just going to replace the brace with a stock and not register it as an SBR. If the ATF wants to classify me as a criminal I'm going to live up to their expectations.
@@sinistersilverado965 I mean, I could do a oil filter as a suppressor but they're super shit from what I've heard and only lasts like a day, and the ATF is cracking down on solvent traps already so it would be hard to get one right now without customs catching it and notifying the ATF. Going full auto requires machining I don't have the skill or knowledge to do, I would if I could though.
@@morrius0757 there’s some decent American made Form 1 kits out there. A good number will require you to submit your approved form 1 paperwork before shipping it to you though.
Just ditch the brace and get a proper sling you can push out into. It is a very stable platform and even more concealable. I am fairly certain the ATF won't ban slings.
I made three pistols under the pretense it was legal, to pay another $200 per firearm.... No thank you. How about we fight for our right (metaphorically speaking) by giving to goaa or the fpc?
Not going to be made a felon. However, I will never pay $200 to retain my lawfully acquired property. Screw the brace. They work just fine without them.
I don't know why it makes a damn difference. People should have access to whatever down factor they want. I want my wife to be as accurate as possible if someone were to break into our house. Having to pay a tax to have a shorter rifle is absurd.
For me im screwed. I would go SBR route. But I have so many braced pistols and my nearest good shooting range is 30 minutes away in a different state. And its a hassle to already go to the range nonetheless with my shifts changing all the time.
@@4MRRanch that mindset will lead to more and more regulations. What will be next?. 15 years fom now you might have to register your ammo, ask permission and pay a tax to shoot your gun. If people keep with the mindset you have. Then eventually they will lose more than they wanted to today.
@@4MRRanch we all do. The problem is, the ATF continuously redefines definitions of existing laws to further burden legal gun owners with illegal interpretations. Braces are completely legal, and very useful for those with handicaps. The ATF interpretation is just another form of illegal gun control. The 2A is a God given right that was meant to be protected by the government, or to be used against a tyrannical government. Leave us legal gun owners alone.
who the hell decides if its shoulder able , what if i cant use my arms and only shoot with my feet and legs , is it illegal to hip and knee the gun , wtf ....An SBR cant be used in self defense or travel !
I have a question, is the lower or upper that’s taxable, wondering if one lower can be used with more than one caliber upper? I have 5.56 , 6.5 G And 300 blk uppers and one lower with brace
There’s some mixed speculation on this. From what I recall reading, you can make temporary changes as long as the original configuration can be meta gain. Swapping uppers constitutes as a temporary change in my opinion, but as mentioned I would suggest you do your own research and I’m not in a position to give definitive notice legal advice.
I'm sad because I've been giving my money to the NRA to keep my guns. Now I'm giving my money to the Government. In the adult genre of movies, I am getting what you would call a spit roast.
How does the fingerprint process work? I’ve watched videos and they don’t really explain. Will they tell me where to go get fingerprinted or do we just pick a place and go? I ask because I don’t wanna start this process and there not be availability within the 10 days.
Mine for my suppressors (Finger prints and trust everything) done at the FFL on a kiosk or tablet right at the counter, took about 30 minutes to fill out and sign paid the tax And in a waiting pattern for 5 months now
For a content creator it makes a lot of sense to just do a SBS or SBR, way less sketchy in the long run, and it would be your butt on the line (literally)
Unfortunately I doubt we'll ever see that in our lifetime. They've gained too much ground, and regardless of whichever political party/politician is in place, it's simply too late to go back... in terms of 2A,things are only going to get worse.
So you can keep shooting those firearms if they outlaw braces? Once upon a time they made something called a pistol buffer tube. Which is what I’ll go back to before I’ll ever give the ATF a dollar and let them put me on a registry.
Statutes policies and rules are not “laws of the land”. They only apply to legal individuals, persons and subjects. Not men and woman. Furthermore, there are no laws pertaining to arms. Only guns, firearms and weapons. Words matter.
That’s a common misconception. The guidelines are pretty clear if you read them first hand and don’t just take advice from the guy at the gun store lol
Your trust information for an SBR (name and city). For silencer you also need to add a serial number and caliber. Most Forearms being converted to an SBR already have a caliber engraved on either the receiver or barrel, and already have a serial number.
My first Form 4 can took 13 months, currently have another at day 308 and counting.. I’m told if you just keep buying NFA items, the wait doesn’t feel as bad when you have a revolving door of things being approved lol
Can't you simply buy a new upper assembly, attach it to your lower, and put the sbr upper in the safe? Isn't it only illegal if it's attached to a lower and therefore a firearm? Is it not a paperweight without the bcg and charge handle and just sitting there?
If you don’t have either a “pistol” lower or SBR lower, and just have an upper with Jess than a 16” barrel lying around, I’m sure you’d get hit with intent or something along those lines (if discovered). But again, I post my collection publicly so that wouldn’t work for me! But people are free to do what’s best for them
I was told by my FFL when I registered it, I could register it as either a Pistol or a Rifle lower. If I register it as a Pistol, I can build either a Pistol or a Rifle. If I register it as a Rifle it can only be a Rifle. So naturally I chose the Pistol registration. Now that the law is changing after the fact, I'm changing it to a Rifle. I think that only if someone catches you with an ASSEMBLED SBR that they could say you're breaking the law. Does that not make sense?
$200 stamp + $50 engraving , plus all the time. I respect your decision. But I think I'll just stick with 16" barrels for sport, and my normal handgun for protection. Yes I'd love to own one myself but it just isn't worth the hassle to me.
Not to mention that if you move houses, even in the same zip code... you have to ask permission to move the SBR/SBS with you to the new house. Yea.. they will grant you permission.. but still.. it's annoying you have to ask/let them know just to move down the street.
Now if you move to another address or even take your gun to the range across state lines, you have to send a letter to the ATF. It stinks. That's what has prevented me from going through the hassle and I'm just keeping my GSG Mp40 a pistol for now. I so want to get that stock for it but that's just too much pain. So I'm looking into brace options.
It’s a fair point, but being able to still shoot them if braces are banned is worth the occasional headache of having to send a letter, for me at least.
@@alexJohnson9119 technical you have to wait till you get ATF “approval” response, after you send the letter of travel across state lines. Some people don’t worry about it.
For those who will get upset that I actually played by the rules to get tax stamps… I agree with you that the NFA is an infringement on the 2nd amendment.. but being that I post my collection online, I made the personal choice to follow the rules in place, regardless of if I agree with then or not..
@@CruisintheStreets I know, it creates some added pains when traveling. But I would prefer this over not being able to use this gun anymore depending on what happens with the future pistol brace rulings.
Not going to pay for anyone that says something is illegal unless you pay us money. So how do people who go about jumping through hoops who travel quite a bit with once legal pistol braces on thier pistol if they decide to SBR their pistol which doesn't allow you to leave the state without permission by this alphabet tyrannous entity and states who outlaw SBR's. Paying them to have a amnesty is just an admittance to guilt. I can't believe you feel so quite to give up your rights because you don't want to fight the good fight, "just easier", we all know who are fast to give in, thx for the heads up.
In this guy’s defense, if you have one stamp you might as well have 10. If you “don’t want the man to know what you have.” Buy everything in cash from individual owners and never look for anything gun related or pro Trump on the internet. That should keep you off the radar.
You dont get it. This guy admits he will follow the law till "politicians say youre not even allowed to have these" and he will follow the law even then. Better to keep the pistol brace and use their BS against them. Not do exactly what they want you to do. Its death by 1000000000 cuts, not a beheading. He consistently says "i didnt like it but i did it"...... wtf. You idiots have never lived in a place where your "rights" were taken away so you act like its harmless to just obey. It is harmful, and the logic behind this goes away real quick once the law you are following limits you even further. But this guy is a content creator and really only cares about his bottom line, not the actual 2nd or actual rights.
@@williamwhite1982 new rules... then new rules.... then new rules. It will never when the people in positions of power make it extremely clear how much they are truly against your right to arm yourself. Where i come from you get a license to own, a license to carry, ammo limits, government registry, your ffl ships your gun to the central police dept where they have their own system and you register the firearm with them before they release it to you.
Not a day you want to see in America......and yet you bent the knee, and cooperated with the very people who are pushing that day to happen. Curiously flexible sense of integrity, and honor you have there. What will you do when that day comes? There's a price.....
And I just don’t see the point of adding all that weight, it’s still ridiculously loud and you still want to wear double hearing. Adds like 5 to 8 inches to your barrel for 10 dbs, along with tons of reliability issues.
The funny thing is you ACTUALLY think they are gong to stop thier , next in the near future they will come after semiautos and call them machine guns..
Info on your trust, if you don’t have caliber or serial markings you’ll need that as well. Most firearms already have caliber and s/n markings so only trust info (name and location) are needed. If your receiver says “multi” the markings on the barrel are typically sufficient. There are size and depth requirements for the engravings as well.
Question. If the youtubers are conforming to tyrannical behavior, who is going to lead the rest of the pack in the fight against the government corruption and blatant violation of our God given rights? I certainly don't have the following. There's only so much I can do while sharing info online to my 200 friends while it really only reaches 2 or 3. What's the foundation for getting information across and gathering as a community? There does not seem to be one
As unfortunate as it is I did what I had to to ensure I wasn’t putting myself at risk by displaying any illegal activities in my videos I post online. What you do behind closed doors is your business, and I respect whatever choice is best for you..
@T E You hit the nail on the head right there! Oooo look at me I'm a commando with a SBR but Nope it's a brace. Braces will be banned just a matter of time.
"You should receive an approval back unless you're a total weirdo..or been doing sh*t you probably shouldn't have been doing or publicizing"... Actually, the closer you are over the target, the more sh*t you're gonna' get. Making the brave people who have done such things "heros" and not "total weirdos". You basically admit mass surveillance in one swoop..and instead of saying "unless you're doing something illegal", you basically state, "Unless you're doing something questionable." ..That's a very scary message. In todays upside down reality, things I learned in high school psychology are now "conspiracy theory"..and that's a fact.
@@4MRRanch I’ve actually thought of sbr Mine, but because I’m not sure I trust everybody I know from turning me in when they outlaw braces, live to fight another day, and able to vote, let’s go Brandon
@@gregz4249 You still think voting matters? The state of affairs continues to worsen every single "presidential" term for many decades. No matter what side you're on. The system itself inherently divides the masses. It's a divide and conquer principle since Rome. America is the new Rome. It will fall hard. Godspeed.
I wonder how the impending August rules release from ATF on braces has people feeling about this. I have 5 pistols with braces (Sig MPX, LWRC SMG45, DDM4 PDW, Zastava PAP85) and I'm worried about what to do come August. I may start SBR paper on a few of them.
I am in the same boat, why worry at this point, when you could just SBR the firearm and be done with it. Most people have been fingerprinted purposely for employment or even inadvertently at this point. You're not winning by not owning suppressors and SBR's because "The ATF makes it hard," or "I'm not bending the knee." I think by us not normalizing the ownership of these items we are allowing the ATF to win and thus actually bending the knee inadvertently. Take Silencer shop for example, they are normalizing NFA item ownership to the point that the ATF may get uncomfortable, which is good. I agree with you here, and I wont hinge my freedom because someone saw me shouldering a brace or something stupid. Good video, Stay Safe man.
@@stephenedwards5063 I have my trust through silencershop, so after filing prints once in their digital kiosk, you can order prefilled sets. That said, you can order the proper fingerprint card and roll them yourself at anytime if you want to go that route.
To each there own. And if the ATF was going to try and compensate me, I would simply ask for expedited and free stamp approvals! They can keep their (stolen) money!
@@4MRRanch shut up, you took the check in the form of doing what is safe for your youtube chanel. And bowing down to big corporations and gov. Instead of working within the boundaries and fighting for whats right. You just gave up and accepted the offer. Pathetic.
This was before the January 2023 pistol brace ruling, but part of my motivation to SBR these was knowing eventually the ATF would pull a stunt like they did in January of 2023 and that wait times would likely surge. I still believe it’s outrageous this is even necessary.
The moment the ATF makes me a criminal overnight by making pistol braces stocks, I'm just going to replace the brace with a stock and not register it as an SBR. If the ATF wants to classify me as a criminal I'm going to live up to their expectations.
why no go full auto with a suppressor?
@@sinistersilverado965 I mean, I could do a oil filter as a suppressor but they're super shit from what I've heard and only lasts like a day, and the ATF is cracking down on solvent traps already so it would be hard to get one right now without customs catching it and notifying the ATF. Going full auto requires machining I don't have the skill or knowledge to do, I would if I could though.
You do have a point..
@@morrius0757 there’s some decent American made Form 1 kits out there. A good number will require you to submit your approved form 1 paperwork before shipping it to you though.
@@4MRRanch and the paperwork now asks if you had bought a kit prior to submitting your application in, which is a trap.
Even my free one came back in 61 days. Definitely going to do my cz also
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Do I have to engrave my CZ scorpion evo 3 s1 if I want to SBR it or is just for the AR-15 lower
Just ditch the brace and get a proper sling you can push out into. It is a very stable platform and even more concealable. I am fairly certain the ATF won't ban slings.
I made three pistols under the pretense it was legal, to pay another $200 per firearm.... No thank you. How about we fight for our right (metaphorically speaking) by giving to goaa or the fpc?
how about we do that anyway while trying our best to avoid 10 yrs in a federal pokey.
If we have to fight to keep a "right" then it's not really a right is it?
i just said forget that BS and buy a complete upper and 16"barrel for my FX-9 .
What's that pistol brace on the right side of the thumb nail? I've been looking for it but I don't know what to google
Can’t do that in California
So if its registered as a pistol and I remove the brace and just have a tube.im good right??
Not going to be made a felon. However, I will never pay $200 to retain my lawfully acquired property. Screw the brace. They work just fine without them.
So where's the pistols?
I don't know why it makes a damn difference. People should have access to whatever down factor they want. I want my wife to be as accurate as possible if someone were to break into our house. Having to pay a tax to have a shorter rifle is absurd.
Very professionally stated.
How about let's kick the ATF and NFA to the burm. They are unconstitutional we need to get them in our heightest court in America.
For me im screwed. I would go SBR route. But I have so many braced pistols and my nearest good shooting range is 30 minutes away in a different state. And its a hassle to already go to the range nonetheless with my shifts changing all the time.
Yeah that sounds like a challenge.. wish we could be free to enjoy our hobby without jumping through so many hoops
You can no longer conceal that in a pack now, correct? Since it's technically now a rifle?
A trust..??
I'm wondering what that means also
Free men don’t ask
The BATFE loves this video. They want people to come to the same conclusion as you; since REGISTERING your firearms is a goal of theirs.
look man, I just wanna go pew pew in peace without my dogs getting shot
@@4MRRanch Sammy Weaver is listening.
@@4MRRanch that mindset will lead to more and more regulations. What will be next?. 15 years fom now you might have to register your ammo, ask permission and pay a tax to shoot your gun. If people keep with the mindset you have. Then eventually they will lose more than they wanted to today.
@@4MRRanch we all do. The problem is, the ATF continuously redefines definitions of existing laws to further burden legal gun owners with illegal interpretations. Braces are completely legal, and very useful for those with handicaps. The ATF interpretation is just another form of illegal gun control. The 2A is a God given right that was meant to be protected by the government, or to be used against a tyrannical government. Leave us legal gun owners alone.
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who the hell decides if its shoulder able , what if i cant use my arms and only shoot with my feet and legs , is it illegal to hip and knee the gun , wtf ....An SBR cant be used in self defense or travel !
I'm curious, what did you put in box 4.i.?
...ask for permission and pay a racketeering fee.
It’s not the reality I wish we lived in, but it was the best path forward for me personally.
@@4MRRanch Not trying to be confrontational, but compliance doesn’t help fight the tyranny. It does the opposite.
I have a question, is the lower or upper that’s taxable, wondering if one lower can be used with more than one caliber upper? I have 5.56 , 6.5 G
And 300 blk uppers and one lower with brace
There’s some mixed speculation on this. From what I recall reading, you can make temporary changes as long as the original configuration can be meta gain. Swapping uppers constitutes as a temporary change in my opinion, but as mentioned I would suggest you do your own research and I’m not in a position to give definitive notice legal advice.
I'm sad because I've been giving my money to the NRA to keep my guns. Now I'm giving my money to the Government. In the adult genre of movies, I am getting what you would call a spit roast.
NEVER REGISTER!!!!
How does the fingerprint process work? I’ve watched videos and they don’t really explain. Will they tell me where to go get fingerprinted or do we just pick a place and go? I ask because I don’t wanna start this process and there not be availability within the 10 days.
Mine for my suppressors
(Finger prints and trust everything) done at the FFL on a kiosk or tablet
right at the counter, took about 30 minutes to fill out and sign paid the tax
And in a waiting pattern for 5 months now
Why’s yours taking so long? Did you file as a trust, Corporation or an individual?
@@stephenedwards5063 the suppressors are form 4 and in a trust, I was told 6mo to a year
My first form 4 took 13 months, I’m at 210 days on a second one at the moment.
Now you have to send over footprints for form 1
That’ll be the day. Maybe some nice feet pics to go with it.
Dang I didn’t know you had to get them engraved after you paid for and got approved for the stamp
Neither did I until I started doing more homework.
For a content creator it makes a lot of sense to just do a SBS or SBR, way less sketchy in the long run, and it would be your butt on the line (literally)
Yep, although I never said I agree with the NFA… I still chose to follow the law
500 videos later and 500 people saying "well I'm not a lawyer so this is not legal advice" I'm still at square one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How is a sbr more dangerous to require a tax stamp then the same rifle with a 16” barrel ?
I waited 2.5 years for my first form 4 and my information was stolen from the AFT while I was waiting.
Damn.. I’m sorry to hear that
To the surprise of no one
Abolish the ATF
Agreed. Or at least their regulations against law abiding citizens!
Unfortunately I doubt we'll ever see that in our lifetime. They've gained too much ground, and regardless of whichever political party/politician is in place, it's simply too late to go back... in terms of 2A,things are only going to get worse.
So you can keep shooting those firearms if they outlaw braces? Once upon a time they made something called a pistol buffer tube. Which is what I’ll go back to before I’ll ever give the ATF a dollar and let them put me on a registry.
they are now registered as SBRs so yes any brace ruling would be irrelevant to these rifles.
Statutes policies and rules are not “laws of the land”. They only apply to legal individuals, persons and subjects. Not men and woman. Furthermore, there are no laws pertaining to arms. Only guns, firearms and weapons. Words matter.
Some states don’t allow sbrs. But allow braces
Engrave P.D.W. 💁🏼♂️
Also some states don't allow sbrs but will allow AOW's so do the form one...add a vertical grip and stock and voila.
I've heard it said engraving is only necessary if you're planning to see your SBR. If keeping for yourself, not necessary.
That’s a common misconception. The guidelines are pretty clear if you read them first hand and don’t just take advice from the guy at the gun store lol
..what do you actually get engraved onto the lower receiver?
Your trust information for an SBR (name and city). For silencer you also need to add a serial number and caliber. Most Forearms being converted to an SBR already have a caliber engraved on either the receiver or barrel, and already have a serial number.
Don’t like the rules. Don’t worry they’ll change soon
Hopefully for the better!!
They’ll just ban everything to keep it simple.
Mine took 8 months back in 2016.
My first Form 4 can took 13 months, currently have another at day 308 and counting.. I’m told if you just keep buying NFA items, the wait doesn’t feel as bad when you have a revolving door of things being approved lol
Pistol brace, whats next ATF? Lol. Tactical lights? Because it can be use to see in the dark?
Can't you simply buy a new upper assembly, attach it to your lower, and put the sbr upper in the safe? Isn't it only illegal if it's attached to a lower and therefore a firearm? Is it not a paperweight without the bcg and charge handle and just sitting there?
If you don’t have either a “pistol” lower or SBR lower, and just have an upper with Jess than a 16” barrel lying around, I’m sure you’d get hit with intent or something along those lines (if discovered). But again, I post my collection publicly so that wouldn’t work for me! But people are free to do what’s best for them
I was told by my FFL when I registered it, I could register it as either a Pistol or a Rifle lower. If I register it as a Pistol, I can build either a Pistol or a Rifle. If I register it as a Rifle it can only be a Rifle. So naturally I chose the Pistol registration. Now that the law is changing after the fact, I'm changing it to a Rifle. I think that only if someone catches you with an ASSEMBLED SBR that they could say you're breaking the law. Does that not make sense?
$200 stamp + $50 engraving , plus all the time. I respect your decision. But I think I'll just stick with 16" barrels for sport, and my normal handgun for protection. Yes I'd love to own one myself but it just isn't worth the hassle to me.
Not to mention that if you move houses, even in the same zip code... you have to ask permission to move the SBR/SBS with you to the new house. Yea.. they will grant you permission.. but still.. it's annoying you have to ask/let them know just to move down the street.
@@user-km3vr3np7c i really hope the atf doesnt make the mck an sbr
@@user-km3vr3np7c if you knew about the U.N's Agenda 2030 you'd realize that you won't own a damn thing, let alone a gun, by 2030.
Now if you move to another address or even take your gun to the range across state lines, you have to send a letter to the ATF. It stinks. That's what has prevented me from going through the hassle and I'm just keeping my GSG Mp40 a pistol for now. I so want to get that stock for it but that's just too much pain. So I'm looking into brace options.
It’s a fair point, but being able to still shoot them if braces are banned is worth the occasional headache of having to send a letter, for me at least.
@@4MRRanch Are you going to sell your Tailhook Mod 1? I'm interested if you are. I live in Alabama.
@@NateBuildingBricks how long does it take to print a letter to the ATF? 5 mins? What's the big deal?
@@alexJohnson9119 technical you have to wait till you get ATF “approval” response, after you send the letter of travel across state lines. Some people don’t worry about it.
Dont you need permission to take an sbr across state lines ? And forget letting someone borrow it to plink with .
Yep
For those who will get upset that I actually played by the rules to get tax stamps… I agree with you that the NFA is an infringement on the 2nd amendment.. but being that I post my collection online, I made the personal choice to follow the rules in place, regardless of if I agree with then or not..
Fair enough
Check the requirement now that it's an sbr about taking to another state.
@@CruisintheStreets I know, it creates some added pains when traveling. But I would prefer this over not being able to use this gun anymore depending on what happens with the future pistol brace rulings.
You don't need to explain yourself!
@@alexJohnson9119 you'd be surprised. He does to some people
For those in restricted states like CA, no SBR
The stribog has a good foldable brace
Not going to pay for anyone that says something is illegal unless you pay us money. So how do people who go about jumping through hoops who travel quite a bit with once legal pistol braces on thier pistol if they decide to SBR their pistol which doesn't allow you to leave the state without permission by this alphabet tyrannous entity and states who outlaw SBR's. Paying them to have a amnesty is just an admittance to guilt. I can't believe you feel so quite to give up your rights because you don't want to fight the good fight, "just easier", we all know who are fast to give in, thx for the heads up.
In this guy’s defense, if you have one stamp you might as well have 10. If you “don’t want the man to know what you have.” Buy everything in cash from individual owners and never look for anything gun related or pro Trump on the internet. That should keep you off the radar.
Finally, somebody with logic in the comment section!
You dont get it. This guy admits he will follow the law till "politicians say youre not even allowed to have these" and he will follow the law even then. Better to keep the pistol brace and use their BS against them. Not do exactly what they want you to do. Its death by 1000000000 cuts, not a beheading. He consistently says "i didnt like it but i did it"...... wtf. You idiots have never lived in a place where your "rights" were taken away so you act like its harmless to just obey. It is harmful, and the logic behind this goes away real quick once the law you are following limits you even further. But this guy is a content creator and really only cares about his bottom line, not the actual 2nd or actual rights.
@@spades77seven the new “rules” coming from the ATF should be interesting. I think it will get them on a fast track to the SCOTUS:)
@@williamwhite1982 new rules... then new rules.... then new rules. It will never when the people in positions of power make it extremely clear how much they are truly against your right to arm yourself. Where i come from you get a license to own, a license to carry, ammo limits, government registry, your ffl ships your gun to the central police dept where they have their own system and you register the firearm with them before they release it to you.
@@spades77seven Are you in America?
I ditched the brace. Run a sling on my brn180p
Nice!
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The AFT or for that matter anyone in the federal government doesn't know their @$$ from the Grand Canyon
Not a day you want to see in America......and yet you bent the knee, and cooperated with the very people who are pushing that day to happen. Curiously flexible sense of integrity, and honor you have there. What will you do when that day comes? There's a price.....
Drill press goes brrrt
I'd definitely get a suppressor but I just don't want any weapons registered with ATF. Registration leads to confiscation. But I like your guns man.
And I just don’t see the point of adding all that weight, it’s still ridiculously loud and you still want to wear double hearing. Adds like 5 to 8 inches to your barrel for 10 dbs, along with tons of reliability issues.
@@MobileAura not the case with the right suppressor / weapon pair.
So be ready to stand your ground when that time comes. They will, registration or not.
@@MobileAura false
Well the good news is the atf has 1 billion 4473 in a digital data base … so much for that argument lol
The funny thing is you ACTUALLY think they are gong to stop thier , next in the near future they will come after semiautos and call them machine guns..
I’m very worried about that, and would not be surprised.
ATF follows all posts. Unfortunately, certain posts only validate acceptance of their insane brace policies. Not laws.
Thanks
Peace from Texas
I did not know we had to engrave our SBR's ?
What do THEY want us to engrave?
Another $50 ?
Info on your trust, if you don’t have caliber or serial markings you’ll need that as well. Most firearms already have caliber and s/n markings so only trust info (name and location) are needed. If your receiver says “multi” the markings on the barrel are typically sufficient. There are size and depth requirements for the engravings as well.
Caved and kissing boots of the ATF
I like conceal carrying tho, and registering will limit my use to one state. I'll stick with the brace bs still it's time to shove em off
Question. If the youtubers are conforming to tyrannical behavior, who is going to lead the rest of the pack in the fight against the government corruption and blatant violation of our God given rights? I certainly don't have the following. There's only so much I can do while sharing info online to my 200 friends while it really only reaches 2 or 3. What's the foundation for getting information across and gathering as a community? There does not seem to be one
So you paid to give up your freedom…LMAO
As unfortunate as it is I did what I had to to ensure I wasn’t putting myself at risk by displaying any illegal activities in my videos I post online. What you do behind closed doors is your business, and I respect whatever choice is best for you..
It's sad this has to be done at all
@UCTzYnauxT2GShxtKlJKFrRA Stupid rule created by a group with no power. Alphabet boyz can flip off.
@T E You hit the nail on the head right there! Oooo look at me I'm a commando with a SBR but Nope it's a brace. Braces will be banned just a matter of time.
@T E 4MR shilled for tyrants, no sugar coating it
3 cell mag light and frezze plugs home made suppersor no tax no register
I like ur display
Thanks!
ATF promo video... lmao
"You should receive an approval back unless you're a total weirdo..or been doing sh*t you probably shouldn't have been doing or publicizing"... Actually, the closer you are over the target, the more sh*t you're gonna' get. Making the brave people who have done such things "heros" and not "total weirdos". You basically admit mass surveillance in one swoop..and instead of saying "unless you're doing something illegal", you basically state, "Unless you're doing something questionable." ..That's a very scary message. In todays upside down reality, things I learned in high school psychology are now "conspiracy theory"..and that's a fact.
I think you’re completely over analyzing my sarcasm
I agree with you, and to each his own!
Thank you, I’m just trying to share that it wasn’t a pain like most people probably think.
@@4MRRanch I’ve actually thought of sbr
Mine, but because I’m not sure I trust everybody I know from turning me in when they outlaw braces, live to fight another day, and able to vote, let’s go Brandon
@@gregz4249 exactly!!
@@gregz4249 You still think voting matters? The state of affairs continues to worsen every single "presidential" term for many decades. No matter what side you're on. The system itself inherently divides the masses. It's a divide and conquer principle since Rome. America is the new Rome. It will fall hard. Godspeed.
2:29 you sound Arrogant
Just my cheap humor attempt
I wonder how the impending August rules release from ATF on braces has people feeling about this. I have 5 pistols with braces (Sig MPX, LWRC SMG45, DDM4 PDW, Zastava PAP85) and I'm worried about what to do come August. I may start SBR paper on a few of them.
My gut said there was going to be a ton of people trying to SBR there guns, so I wanted to get it done while the wait is so short
I am in the same boat, why worry at this point, when you could just SBR the firearm and be done with it. Most people have been fingerprinted purposely for employment or even inadvertently at this point. You're not winning by not owning suppressors and SBR's because "The ATF makes it hard," or "I'm not bending the knee." I think by us not normalizing the ownership of these items we are allowing the ATF to win and thus actually bending the knee inadvertently. Take Silencer shop for example, they are normalizing NFA item ownership to the point that the ATF may get uncomfortable, which is good. I agree with you here, and I wont hinge my freedom because someone saw me shouldering a brace or something stupid. Good video, Stay Safe man.
A Just Man may only continue to be a law abiding citizen, when the laws he abides are good. That said, I understand the risk vs reward here.
That’s all it was.. a consideration of risk vs reward. Thanks for watching.
So since the Federal government took the tax stamp (lol) money are you able to take this to any state you want?
It’s an interesting thought.. that should be the case in my opinion.
@@4MRRanch gotta notify the atf and beg for permission when crossing state lines
Federal law doesn't trump state law. I'd not suggest that...
That thing looks WAY better with the stock :)
It was worth the registration, lol.
I agree it looks much better with an actual stock
lets go brandon
Do you need an actual passport or do you just have to provide a recent photo of your self
My FFL was set up and took the photo also
I believe a photo taken within the last year (possibly 2 years?) but I just took an updated picture nonetheless
Thanks. And what about the fingerprints part. Did you have to set an appointment with DPS or something or did you go to some random place
@@stephenedwards5063 I have my trust through silencershop, so after filing prints once in their digital kiosk, you can order prefilled sets. That said, you can order the proper fingerprint card and roll them yourself at anytime if you want to go that route.
Ok that makes sense. Thank you for the help
No thank you😁
to each their own!
I think this d/a took a check from the atf to make this video on registering guns to the government yeah no pass.
To each there own. And if the ATF was going to try and compensate me, I would simply ask for expedited and free stamp approvals! They can keep their (stolen) money!
@@4MRRanch shut up, you took the check in the form of doing what is safe for your youtube chanel. And bowing down to big corporations and gov. Instead of working within the boundaries and fighting for whats right. You just gave up and accepted the offer. Pathetic.
Gay
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Jesus why would anyone risk buying these. They can make you a fellon when they feel like it.