Laws are arbitrary and seem to only apply to certain people. The government breaks “the law” on a constant basis. There is no rule of law. There is no justice system. It’s literally everyone for themselves. Do not comply with gangsters.
The NFA is unconstitutional, but has been in place for 89 years now! When the NFA was created a silencer cost $3 to $5, so the $200 tax was a prohibitive measure, which is UNLAWFUL!!! 🤬
ANTI-2nd UNITY (Non-Violent Felons!) If you can't beat them, join them!!! (Together there is Unity!) Republicans are switching parties for Equality! The "do-gooder" gun owners shall eventually destroy the 2nd amendment on their own, by self-righteousness! What part of shall not infringe do "do-gooder" and politicians not understand! (This is their fault too!) Nearly half the nation are convicted felons for victimless non-violent offenses who are ETERNALLY BANNED from possessing a firearm or even a single bullet for life! (Self-righteous gun owners shall eventually lose their guns & bullets with the help of the police!) FACT: There are more non-violent than violent felons without God-given gun rights thanks to self-righteous do-gooders! Non-violent felons can still vote and abolishing "guns & bullets" from backstabbing "do-gooders" is exactly how they'll vote with a vengeance in record millennial numbers for equal (Slave) EQUALITY!. ALL FOR ONE, AND ONE FOR ALL IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM of SLAVERY!!! (Turning Red states Blue!) Since NON-VIOLENT felons without victims and injured parties can't legally possess even a single bullet, nobody should possess guns or bullets! PERIOD!.. - Turtletruth (Oorah)
What really gets me is the whole stigma over suppressors especially since anyone who has ever bought a car, has also bought a suppressor at the same time since that's EXACTLY what a car muffler is, a suppressor.
Honestly the fact AR “pistols” even exist shows people are willing to comply with infringements against our rights. Hope that changes with this and this is a line in the sand for people.
Really well said. For too long, people have accepted "compromises " and have complied with massive overstepping of boundaries that were really well put in place.
Right on!! That's truth!! Another one that bothers me is when people say I will not comply! Well what good is a gun when it's buried in a barrel underground because you will not comply! That's pretty much the opposite of what you should be doing!
I don't know why anyone is currently complying with the NFA at all, knowing that it will be overturned soon thanks to Bruen. It's just a waste of your time and money at this point. Spend it writing letters to your local government officials demanding passage of 2A sanctuary laws, and donate that money to the FPC, SAF, GOA, and the various state gun rights orgs that are suing all the gun control laws right now. Heck, go and become a plaintiff, get in touch with those orgs. FPC is constantly putting out calls in specific jurisdictions, looking for people willing to put their name on the legal filings. If they aren't suing currently in your federal district, reach out to one of the other orgs.
Braces are for disabled veterans first and foremost but even if you have an SBR or any NFA item that’s complying with infringement as well, goes back to the idea “boiling a frog” just slowly cranking up the heat…
So I chose to abide by the sbr/brace rule. Then when this recent rule came out I sat back and realized that the brace rule before is just as stupid as this rule, if not moreso. In fact any rule/law limiting law abiding non criminal citizens ability to posess certain weapons/weapon accessories is straight blasphemy. I no longer have any braced stuff, nor did i go tax stamp route for an sbr either... But.... if i did, at this point, id do whatever the heck i wanted. Currently im not in a position to be affected, but if i were....what the 3 letter agency says wouldnt matter.
It would not even matter if it was a “law.” Any law repugnant to the constitution is null and void. That was determined by the SCOTUS over 200 years ago.
You guys make more sense than most attorneys on youtube,,,especially when you back your saying with atf publications, pictures, legal articles etc etc etc.....THANK YOU P.S. Eric - DO NOT FEEL GUILTY for long videos,,,we are here to get your point of view & at least I value it a lot,,,, you are not one of these guys with screeching voice, crazy looking eyes or fast pace talker,,,,,MAN U Rock !!!!
I don't know what's going to happen but I'm rooting for mass non-compliance & crossing my fingers that it ends up at the supreme court and frees SBR's, SBS's, AOW's & Suppressors from the NFA list.
@Nathaniel Shrock they can absolutely cover the truth. There have been protests with 500,000 people in front of the Whitehouse that were only known by people who were interested in the issue. They control all media. Not only do they control all media, they control the narrative, so if a buttload of armed people showed up outside of any federal agency, it would actually be a bonus for them. The majority of private citizens are anti gun now because gun owners have spent the last year relying on the constitution to protect them while the gun grabbers have been busy programming the masses. Gun owners are in the position that herschel grynszpan was in. Anything they do, will be used against them. So there's nothing to do except start a revolution or bury and arsenal until our commie neighbors stop loving the government so much. And the will isn't there for a revolution.
@rexman971 yup, gun owners don't have any clue how deep the hole they have dug by being lazy and soft is. They've already lost the war, even if they win a few battles. Which is why, if I get a knock on the door, I won't be dying in my doorway, they can have the one rifle, one pistol and one shotgun that I need for self defense and the rest of them will be safe off-site. Then, if we the people ever finally grows a spine and decides there is a limit to what they will allow, I might share a few with them.
What really irks the hell out of me too, is the retroactive bans with zero grandfathering. I grew up with the logic "if it was legal when you bought it, they can't go back and take it away." Thus the post 86 ban. In other words "Item X henceforth is now outlawed but if you already have it they can't do anything"
The argument that the ATF and that side makes is that the brace makes the gun more concealable. In the same breath they say you can continue to own and use your AR without a brace attached. Without a brace attached with just a bare buffer tube the gun has less length and is now even more concealable.
@@TheKlamminator that needed to be said. Why would anyone use an AR pistol in a crime when a piatol is more concealable and in most cases more accurate
If you type “incognito switch” in to UA-cam you’ll find a certain statistic shooting full auto Glocks in to the sky. 🤦♂️ ATF needs to enforce laws, not make up new laws…
Well, the entire reason for the SBR/SBS clause in the Gun Control Act is because they wanted to place the same tax stamp and registry on pistols themselves. They added the clause about SBRs/SBSs to close a perceived loophole in their efforts to register pistols and machine guns. But successful lobbying efforts got the pistol thing dropped, leaving the whole SBR/SBS clause entirely redundant.
I loved your rant, please rant at will. You guys are the best out there for helping me understand what is going on with our rights. Please keep up the good work. Stay Frosty.
And it can still be shot shouldered no problem. Thing is, criminals and psychopaths don’t care. They can get whatever they want, do whatever they want and have the intent to harm people. People who want to shoot for fun, or if needed defend themself or others, do what’s “right” and comply with state laws. They do this so they aren’t a criminal and can have fun, get food and if needed defend themself or others. So the problem is not good people with firearms of any sort. It’s bad people with firearms period. It’s an education and economic problem that needs to be dealt with. But you see the people with money and power in certain positions don’t want educated prospering people. They want separation, they want sides to be taken and hate to happen. They want you to believe in something that’s not true, will not actually work or help just because some part of it you might align yourself with a bit. Pretty darn sure though this is not about saving lives or reducing violence. It’s about $.
It would be so awesome if this backfired on them and the court overturns this and decides SBR's shouldn't be an NFA item and then noone has to tip toe with a brace
The truth is the 2nd Amendment does not give us the right to be armed. We were born with that inalienable right for self-defense. The truth is the 2nd Amendment was because it was not intended to have standing armies or even police. They intended every citizen be armed with weapons of war for public safety and national security. It is not just a "right." It is a duty and an obligation to be armed to fight a war; not to kill animals.
NFA subreddit... has banned comments relating to non-compliance... as not in line with the communities objectives... their prerogative...but still really spineless.
Ive been talking with my local sheriff trying to educate and ask for a refusal to enforce. So far he has committed to not go seeking, but I am still working to influence them to refuse to charge at all!
The aluminum gun is a sexy beast. The stamped receiver is amazing, when you start building those I’m eventually going to buy one. Your enthusiasm and passion makes your products!
89 years so far, but yeah go right ahead... I suggest you comply and try to fix the SBR and Suppressor category through Congress. Rule of law, and all that. ATF will be ECSTATIC and be glad to help you do it too. They hate having to deal with all that paperwork, are underfunded and it all HAS to be done on paper due to NRA shenanigans and weird laws that were intended to be hard to follow.
@@vahyg5508 I wanted to SBR a PS90 .. but the transport issues are a PITA. Its not the $200, its the "prior notice" requirement to transport across state lines.
i hope this forces the courts to address the NFA's regulation of real SBRs in light of Bruen. Even if everyone complies with the amnesty registration, someone somewhere is gonna get caught crossing state lines without getting written permission from the ATF a month in advance.
There's also grounds to address SBR regulations under US v Miller. In that decision, they established that weapons must have a history of common military use (paraphrased). In the late 1920s when that case happened, militaries didn't use SBRs but today they are essentially standard issue.
@@LowBudgetUA-camr dont worry, they'll draw another line in the sand...and when the government crosses that they'll back off and draw another and pretend 'this time we mean it' If only people would grow some balls...
I saw an interview with one of the guys from GOA where he asked the ATF guys what happens if some registers with this but the process is not completed within the 88/120 day window. The answer was it triggers an enforcement action.... It was on the guns and gadgets channel. if your interested.
They have since rescinded that dingbats response in the FAQ on their site. So in essence they won't. for clarification my edit is not advice to do one thing or another.
When goa guy went and talked to atf at shot, they couldn’t give straight answers when asked very critical and crucial questions about this lol. It’s insane. One more link trying to be taken away.
One way to get rid of the ATF is to avoid registering any of your braces or anything else they tax. Let them come to you. The ones with sense will find a real job, the others won’t have to worry about one.
This exactly. The irony is marijuana is illegal by Constitutionally compliant law, yet potheads legalized it by widespread violation of the law, and yet people like MAC got all afraid of shouldering a brace back during Obama (although he corrected his mindset during Trump when the first brace "rule" was revised to allow shouldering). We are so afraid of breaking illegal laws even though the Constitution is on our side, we would sacrifice our rights to comply with tyrants, the exact opposite of what the 2A is for.
I think of my brace as preparation for my old age in a wheelchair. Nobody is going to tell me I can't have a wheelchair ramp on my house when I'm 40, I'm preparing for the future.
I've been saying something like this for years. If I want to get crutches now with the expectation I might need it when I get older, who's to tell me I can't. Any ADL friendly item included.
@@TheWalterKurtz I just had lower back surgery, I can't even get medical clearance for my regular job.. Can I get a note from my doctor for a handicap brace for a "pistol?"
"Database: a collection of information (i.e., data) arranged for ease of search and retrieval of information. Registry: a collection of information or databases whose organizers receive information from multiple sources, maintain the information over time, and control access to the information."
Thank you guys so much for doin this for us and sharing the info the right way. You guys making videos like this makes such a impact on the ears of 2A community that might not kno this is goin on. Thank you guys for all the hard you and time you put into this. And thank your families for being cool with you guys doing this
Eric is the first one on all of the internet to offer the best advice possible. Option 6. Massive civil disobedience is designed for times exactly like this. Everyone should ignore these laws. The political fight is instantly over when you give in to these unconstitutional decrees.
great episode fellas. actually answered a lot of questions and hit on some points that i've been saying that I haven't heard anyone else hit on, example if it takes them a year to get you a stamp now, how are they going to keep up with 40 million in 120 days. I won't BS, I filed one form for the simple fact I actually planned on SBR that particular gun anyways.. The rest will wait for now.
I’m not registering or turning in anything and I pray nobody does but if people do comply be sure to get ready for them to change more definitions so they’ll be able to come back and get everything you have
This is the Watershed moment, not because braces are something incredible, but because how many people are going to be effected, and how it had been done. This isn't the time to just sit and moan about it, peaceful assembly & protest is still legal, use it or loose it.
@@SandrasSpicySpanishSalami so the ATF is enforcing this in Germany as well? Or you are just telling other people they should do something about it, but your not going to because it doesn't even effect you?
That's what scares me having my life destroyed by a piece of plastic. I think there should be a letter sent out to all gun owners informing them of a new law or rule telling them they are all felons if they dont remove the brace on there pistol .
By demanding everyone Remove their brace They are going to make that firearm Less safe. Bracing your pistol Really just makes it more Accurate I would think.
Gwinnett county where I live is ran by a liberal sheriff. My brother is leaving the dept to go to a Republican ran dept. I wont say where to protect em but he did tell me this Sheriff in Gwinnett is the type to comply with this ruling and come after us. Not surprised.
Uncouth rednecks he says. These guys put out more useful information in one video. Then all the other videos I've been watching for the past two days combined. Thank you very much gentlemen. Outstanding video.
Lets not forget about the thousands of people who wanted to register it as an SBR and submitted to but are now PAST that 120 days as more paperwork keeps coming in for registration so they have a nice loooong list of guys admitting they have SBRs and admittance of intending to use it as such in paperwork they sent in and all the info they need to stop by to talk to them about it, lol
I travel out of state too much to fool with a stock. I don’t have time to send a “mother may I” letter to the ATF every time I leave the house. Which is what they want us all to do. No thanks, I’m keeping my mushy SBA3.
I got it! how about a stock that doesn't mount to the gun behind it but rather has a sight incorporated into it and it ONLY mounts on the top rail so its not really a stock just an "ugly" HUGE rear sight...
Thank You Guys for keeping on top of this. I believe it was Charlie Murphy talking about Rick James while doing a Dave Chappelle Show skit that said ... 'Rick was a habitual line stepper.' That bit was Classic! Watching that right after You Guys. Peace!! 🤠
Whether you own a Hi-Point or a Smith and Wesson, stock up on supplies to fit your needs. I can honestly say that I’m more than content with my inventory.
Sitting here fondling one of my braced pistols wondering what the white stocked rifle is behind Eric lol great video as always. These battles definitely need to be fought as hard as possible
@@ryanhutchinson3550 I was thinking it looked like something classic like that with the tang on the bottom and engraving. Thank you very much. Honestly didn't think I'd get an answer 🤣
Hey, no prob! I think Eric did a video with that a little while back. I remember that stock from seeing it at a store. I think it has a 20" hex barrel🤔
I've been saying that them waiving a clearly defined in law tax can never happen. It is not an interpretation. Intentionally not collecting taxes is treason and is potentially a threat to national security. This is another example of making "laws" as they go.
Eric hit it with the Devil analogy, right on the money! Thank you guys for all that you do, I really mean that. OUR VOICE!!!(YA'LL KICKING BUTT ON THIS ONE!!!)
All the cowards will still be saying "I'm a law abiding citizen " with tobacco juice dripping from their mouth on their way to the guillotine because gave all of their rights away.
I agree that this is about a gun registration. That is why I don’t own an SBR and only have pistol braces. Why would someone choose to own an SBR over a pistol if you can legally own a pistol?
28:28 that would be cool if you could just register lower stripped receivers, but the ATF said you have to take a picture of the firearm and its length. So no, you cannot register stripped receivers. They are being very clever about this and a bunch of snakes.
Problem with Eric's "pin a can on it" solution is that only a handful of states that disallow SBRs, allow cans. WA I believe is one of them, but I don't think CA and NY are.
I don't think anyone has talked about what if you already own an SBR. I would think you could remove the braces from your other items and just leave them not installed. Because I could always put the brace on my SBR. I would think it would be like someone that that 16" AR15 and SBR AR15 (say no AR pistol) you can have multiple
Thanks great show with man6 historical points. AR pistols shoot fine without a brace. Before the brace, I had a neoprene pad on my buffer tube and rubber pad on the end.
Its not that they hate veterans, they are scared that when the public finds out what they have really been doing, they're scared that the people will (deservedly?) come for them. Just one man's opinion.
@@jeffvalasek4774 totally agree with you, served as a ranger for 10 years and another 5 in regular army and I can tell you we are the ones the government needs to fear. It's pure stupidity to piss off millions of people who your government spent tax dollars on to become the most lethal motherfucker on the battlefield. I have sat back and watched over the years and bit my tongue on alot of issues, voter fraud, gas prices, grocery prices, etc..... But when they take millions of us and make us felons overnight that will be the final straw
I disagree, Dave Chappelle did not say "Habitual line Stepper"
It was Charlie Murphy on the Dave Chappelle show.
Thankyou I said that immediately lol
Also known as brutha darkness
Charles Murphy!!!!!
CHARLES MURPHY
R.I.P
Close enough
Since I have just as much authority as the aft with regards to making laws, I'll make my own rule:
I don't care anymore.
Absolutely. This is complete nonsense. We're in come-and-take-it territory now.
Phil Collins has a song titled that, that's about right.
@@ColdPotato Good song.
It's all about the 💰. They really want people's money so they can keep the infringements up.
Laws are arbitrary and seem to only apply to certain people. The government breaks “the law” on a constant basis. There is no rule of law. There is no justice system.
It’s literally everyone for themselves.
Do not comply with gangsters.
The NFA is unconstitutional, but has been in place for 89 years now! When the NFA was created a silencer cost $3 to $5, so the $200 tax was a prohibitive measure, which is UNLAWFUL!!! 🤬
ANTI-2nd UNITY (Non-Violent Felons!)
If you can't beat them, join them!!! (Together there is Unity!) Republicans are switching parties for Equality!
The "do-gooder" gun owners shall eventually destroy the 2nd amendment on their own, by self-righteousness!
What part of shall not infringe do "do-gooder" and politicians not understand! (This is their fault too!)
Nearly half the nation are convicted felons for victimless non-violent offenses who are ETERNALLY BANNED from possessing a firearm or even a single bullet for life! (Self-righteous gun owners shall eventually lose their guns & bullets with the help of the police!)
FACT: There are more non-violent than violent felons without God-given gun rights thanks to self-righteous do-gooders! Non-violent felons can still vote and abolishing "guns & bullets" from backstabbing "do-gooders" is exactly how they'll vote with a vengeance in record millennial numbers for equal (Slave) EQUALITY!.
ALL FOR ONE, AND ONE FOR ALL IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM of SLAVERY!!! (Turning Red states Blue!)
Since NON-VIOLENT felons without victims and injured parties can't legally possess even a single bullet, nobody should possess guns or bullets! PERIOD!..
- Turtletruth (Oorah)
What really gets me is the whole stigma over suppressors especially since anyone who has ever bought a car, has also bought a suppressor at the same time since that's EXACTLY what a car muffler is, a suppressor.
@@tylerdixon3290 it's ironic how we wanna make our cars louder, and our guns quieter huh?
@@JohnQuickWick it kinda is ironic.
@@JohnQuickWick People don't like being told what they can't have.
Well the ATF can’t issue laws soooo….
Dam I wish a judge would just say this and slam his hammer.
I just call atf all the fakes since they almost brake every oath and brake almost every law. They're more of a felony makers than anything else.
Well buy a SBR dont stamp it and slap a magpul stock on it
I haven't watched IV8888 in like 7 years and holy shit how things have changed! Glad to see you guys are doing well
How can an agency, that deliberately and explicitly positions itself against a written constitutional right, continue to exist?
because we dont use the second amendment to protect the second amendment
Because we have and continue to allow it.
You will all comply. You always do.
@@LowBudgetUA-camrthat’s what a lot of people think.
BECAUSE YOU LET THEM
Honestly the fact AR “pistols” even exist shows people are willing to comply with infringements against our rights. Hope that changes with this and this is a line in the sand for people.
Really well said. For too long, people have accepted "compromises " and have complied with massive overstepping of boundaries that were really well put in place.
Right on!! That's truth!! Another one that bothers me is when people say I will not comply! Well what good is a gun when it's buried in a barrel underground because you will not comply! That's pretty much the opposite of what you should be doing!
I don't know why anyone is currently complying with the NFA at all, knowing that it will be overturned soon thanks to Bruen. It's just a waste of your time and money at this point. Spend it writing letters to your local government officials demanding passage of 2A sanctuary laws, and donate that money to the FPC, SAF, GOA, and the various state gun rights orgs that are suing all the gun control laws right now. Heck, go and become a plaintiff, get in touch with those orgs. FPC is constantly putting out calls in specific jurisdictions, looking for people willing to put their name on the legal filings. If they aren't suing currently in your federal district, reach out to one of the other orgs.
Braces are for disabled veterans first and foremost but even if you have an SBR or any NFA item that’s complying with infringement as well, goes back to the idea “boiling a frog” just slowly cranking up the heat…
So I chose to abide by the sbr/brace rule. Then when this recent rule came out I sat back and realized that the brace rule before is just as stupid as this rule, if not moreso. In fact any rule/law limiting law abiding non criminal citizens ability to posess certain weapons/weapon accessories is straight blasphemy. I no longer have any braced stuff, nor did i go tax stamp route for an sbr either... But.... if i did, at this point, id do whatever the heck i wanted. Currently im not in a position to be affected, but if i were....what the 3 letter agency says wouldnt matter.
Rules are not Laws. DO NOT COMPLY.
haha if only this made sense
It would not even matter if it was a “law.” Any law repugnant to the constitution is null and void. That was determined by the SCOTUS over 200 years ago.
@@juggss How doesn't it makes sense? The ATF is not a governing body and thus has no authority to make laws.
@rlmz00 no shit! That's like the fire department saying you're a felon if you have smoke detectors that aren't 2 foot wide.
You guys make more sense than most attorneys on youtube,,,especially when you back your saying with atf publications, pictures, legal articles etc etc etc.....THANK YOU
P.S. Eric - DO NOT FEEL GUILTY for long videos,,,we are here to get your point of view & at least I value it a lot,,,, you are not one of these guys with screeching voice, crazy looking eyes or fast pace talker,,,,,MAN U Rock !!!!
Ian, over at Forgotten Weapons, did an excellent breakdown of the NFA as it relates to SBSs & SBRs 👍
Thats my next thing to watch. Thanks
I don't know what's going to happen but I'm rooting for mass non-compliance & crossing my fingers that it ends up at the supreme court and frees SBR's, SBS's, AOW's & Suppressors from the NFA list.
Peaceful molotovs.
@Nathaniel Shrock the headline would read, "10,000 heavily armed white separatists threaten the aft" and nobody would bother to question it.
@Nathaniel Shrock they can absolutely cover the truth. There have been protests with 500,000 people in front of the Whitehouse that were only known by people who were interested in the issue. They control all media. Not only do they control all media, they control the narrative, so if a buttload of armed people showed up outside of any federal agency, it would actually be a bonus for them. The majority of private citizens are anti gun now because gun owners have spent the last year relying on the constitution to protect them while the gun grabbers have been busy programming the masses. Gun owners are in the position that herschel grynszpan was in. Anything they do, will be used against them. So there's nothing to do except start a revolution or bury and arsenal until our commie neighbors stop loving the government so much. And the will isn't there for a revolution.
@flakesinyershoe8137 They'll also let a couple government insiders in the crowd attempt to break in, causing it to be a violent riot or insurrection.
@rexman971 yup, gun owners don't have any clue how deep the hole they have dug by being lazy and soft is. They've already lost the war, even if they win a few battles. Which is why, if I get a knock on the door, I won't be dying in my doorway, they can have the one rifle, one pistol and one shotgun that I need for self defense and the rest of them will be safe off-site. Then, if we the people ever finally grows a spine and decides there is a limit to what they will allow, I might share a few with them.
What really irks the hell out of me too, is the retroactive bans with zero grandfathering. I grew up with the logic "if it was legal when you bought it, they can't go back and take it away." Thus the post 86 ban.
In other words
"Item X henceforth is now outlawed but if you already have it they can't do anything"
Yes, that will also be argued in court.
Ex post facto is the phrase you're looking for.
Ex-post facto is a well established principal in the US law code. Making something illegal as such is generally not allowed.
Yes, ex post facto things like this are cancerous to the liberty tree.
@@chrisgilbert4016
and this is how we know that the AFT is a rogue agency.. Just thugs for the unelected, communist coup illegally occupying DC
The argument that the ATF and that side makes is that the brace makes the gun more concealable. In the same breath they say you can continue to own and use your AR without a brace attached. Without a brace attached with just a bare buffer tube the gun has less length and is now even more concealable.
It's what makes them more effective as a defensive tool
And it's dumb anyways because if I'm trying to conceal, I'm just going to use a pistol like a glock
@@TheKlamminator that needed to be said. Why would anyone use an AR pistol in a crime when a piatol is more concealable and in most cases more accurate
If you type “incognito switch” in to UA-cam you’ll find a certain statistic shooting full auto Glocks in to the sky. 🤦♂️ ATF needs to enforce laws, not make up new laws…
Well, the entire reason for the SBR/SBS clause in the Gun Control Act is because they wanted to place the same tax stamp and registry on pistols themselves. They added the clause about SBRs/SBSs to close a perceived loophole in their efforts to register pistols and machine guns. But successful lobbying efforts got the pistol thing dropped, leaving the whole SBR/SBS clause entirely redundant.
I loved your rant, please rant at will. You guys are the best out there for helping me understand what is going on with our rights. Please keep up the good work. Stay Frosty.
all great except the comment about INDIANS! at 11:56
I love how passionate eric is and how chad looks like he is resisting the urge to go "i know man i know but hold on"
Is it just me or is an AR pistol without a brace more concealable than one with a brace?😮
Stop making sense.
How dare you make sense. 😤
And it can still be shot shouldered no problem. Thing is, criminals and psychopaths don’t care. They can get whatever they want, do whatever they want and have the intent to harm people. People who want to shoot for fun, or if needed defend themself or others, do what’s “right” and comply with state laws. They do this so they aren’t a criminal and can have fun, get food and if needed defend themself or others.
So the problem is not good people with firearms of any sort. It’s bad people with firearms period. It’s an education and economic problem that needs to be dealt with. But you see the people with money and power in certain positions don’t want educated prospering people. They want separation, they want sides to be taken and hate to happen. They want you to believe in something that’s not true, will not actually work or help just because some part of it you might align yourself with a bit. Pretty darn sure though this is not about saving lives or reducing violence. It’s about $.
Yes
yep
It would be so awesome if this backfired on them and the court overturns this and decides SBR's shouldn't be an NFA item and then noone has to tip toe with a brace
One can dream.
Dont forget full auto and suppressors
Actually they kind of shifted SBR into common use instantly.
@@hiwayhighway9925
I like the way you THINK 🤔
@@hiwayhighway9925 Maybe you should pitch that concept to GOA.
"ATF'S Final Rule " Yeah right .
I pray they are right, but only because they get defunded and splintered into a thousand pieces.
Fantastic commentary, as usual. This epic beat down is gonna be a joy to behold.
Speak the truth to the people. Thank you for taking the time to do such
The truth is the 2nd Amendment does not give us the right to be armed. We were born with that inalienable right for self-defense. The truth is the 2nd Amendment was because it was not intended to have standing armies or even police. They intended every citizen be armed with weapons of war for public safety and national security. It is not just a "right." It is a duty and an obligation to be armed to fight a war; not to kill animals.
I got an idea. If your this deep into guns you need help haha
Guns protect your right to say dumb things like that.
NFA subreddit... has banned comments relating to non-compliance... as not in line with the communities objectives... their prerogative...but still really spineless.
Reddit is a leftist shitrag.
Reddit exists to get people to comply with government backed consensus.
@Josie ATF only has 8 people reviewing NFA requests so how do they have people to watch Reddit?
How does the FBI have enough to watch Twitter? They all work together.
Ian from Forgotten Weapons recently addressed the NFA, its vagaries and the how the ATF plays fast and loose with its applications.
They play infringe and infringement.
Let's call a spade a spade. This is Brandon through and through. I'd bet my life this was pushed on the AFT by the white house.
Ive been talking with my local sheriff trying to educate and ask for a refusal to enforce. So far he has committed to not go seeking, but I am still working to influence them to refuse to charge at all!
The aluminum gun is a sexy beast. The stamped receiver is amazing, when you start building those I’m eventually going to buy one. Your enthusiasm and passion makes your products!
Guntubers need to lead by example and not register.
Sounds like a good excuse for UA-cam to finally ban gun content
@@asoingbob5322 sounds like a good excuse for gun owners to ban youtube.
When you get in a fight are you going to get hit?
Agreed 100%. It's time for people to actually stand firm on the issues. The government is tyrannical. It's time to act like it
90% of guntubers have entire collections of registered NFA items lol
Please people don't register and wait for the Supreme Court to rule in
Waiting for someone else to save you is how you got onto this mess in the first place
5 years ....if they hear it at all.....Kiss It goodbye....if Newsome wins in 24 mass confiscation.....it will never end.....
I'm only registering because I wanted to SBR my Ap5-m (Mp5k) anyway. If I can "save" $200, sweet
89 years so far, but yeah go right ahead...
I suggest you comply and try to fix the SBR and Suppressor category through Congress. Rule of law, and all that. ATF will be ECSTATIC and be glad to help you do it too. They hate having to deal with all that paperwork, are underfunded and it all HAS to be done on paper due to NRA shenanigans and weird laws that were intended to be hard to follow.
@@vahyg5508 I wanted to SBR a PS90 .. but the transport issues are a PITA. Its not the $200, its the "prior notice" requirement to transport across state lines.
i hope this forces the courts to address the NFA's regulation of real SBRs in light of Bruen. Even if everyone complies with the amnesty registration, someone somewhere is gonna get caught crossing state lines without getting written permission from the ATF a month in advance.
There's also grounds to address SBR regulations under US v Miller. In that decision, they established that weapons must have a history of common military use (paraphrased). In the late 1920s when that case happened, militaries didn't use SBRs but today they are essentially standard issue.
You will all comply. You always do.
Nah full autos man. That's what needs to be dealt with.
@@LowBudgetUA-camr not all of us
@@LowBudgetUA-camr dont worry, they'll draw another line in the sand...and when the government crosses that they'll back off and draw another and pretend 'this time we mean it'
If only people would grow some balls...
Just remember, there are only like 5,000 ATF Agents, but 40,000,000 people with braces.
Hey.. fellow Georgian, US Army combat engineer veteran here.. I stand with yall!
Abolish the aft
When they violate a SCOTUS ruling, they've crossed the line.
So it's just a line.
Just a line is right. A line nobody takes serious anymore.
The government did when NFA was enacted. Now we are getting mad? Lol....
I saw an interview with one of the guys from GOA where he asked the ATF guys what happens if some registers with this but the process is not completed within the 88/120 day window. The answer was it triggers an enforcement action.... It was on the guns and gadgets channel. if your interested.
Legally Armed America had one as well. I just watched it yesterday.
They have since rescinded that dingbats response in the FAQ on their site. So in essence they won't. for clarification my edit is not advice to do one thing or another.
When goa guy went and talked to atf at shot, they couldn’t give straight answers when asked very critical and crucial questions about this lol. It’s insane. One more link trying to be taken away.
I truly appreciate you guys taking the time to lay this out and for all the work you have done throughout the years. Stay safe
Their advice is bullshit, and will not hold up in court.
One way to get rid of the ATF is to avoid registering any of your braces or anything else they tax. Let them come to you. The ones with sense will find a real job, the others won’t have to worry about one.
This exactly. The irony is marijuana is illegal by Constitutionally compliant law, yet potheads legalized it by widespread violation of the law, and yet people like MAC got all afraid of shouldering a brace back during Obama (although he corrected his mindset during Trump when the first brace "rule" was revised to allow shouldering). We are so afraid of breaking illegal laws even though the Constitution is on our side, we would sacrifice our rights to comply with tyrants, the exact opposite of what the 2A is for.
Good luck getting a suppressor without them knowing.
@@BurkeBerserker you can literally print a suppressor.
@@dustondoesit3913 are there any worth a shit? I’m sincerely asking.
@@matthewparker235 plenty of them handling full auto 5.56, CF nylon prints seem to be able to hold up. Videos on UA-cam just a search away
I think of my brace as preparation for my old age in a wheelchair. Nobody is going to tell me I can't have a wheelchair ramp on my house when I'm 40, I'm preparing for the future.
I've been saying something like this for years. If I want to get crutches now with the expectation I might need it when I get older, who's to tell me I can't. Any ADL friendly item included.
Makes me glad I got three surgically fused vertebrae in my neck.
@@TheWalterKurtz I just had lower back surgery, I can't even get medical clearance for my regular job.. Can I get a note from my doctor for a handicap brace for a "pistol?"
@@ThumbsUpKitty ; You don't need to. You got the constitution.
"Database: a collection of information (i.e., data) arranged for ease of search and retrieval of information. Registry: a collection of information or databases whose organizers receive information from multiple sources, maintain the information over time, and control access to the information."
"sorry sir, I'm still so traumatized from the accident when the boat capsized. I'm still trying to get through it."
Thank you guys so much for doin this for us and sharing the info the right way. You guys making videos like this makes such a impact on the ears of 2A community that might not kno this is goin on. Thank you guys for all the hard you and time you put into this. And thank your families for being cool with you guys doing this
Love how your brand and show has always stuck together brother for life. Keep the good work coming. I've been a fan for a long time.
One of the best videos on the topic so far.
Pretty sure they opened Pandora’s box to abolish the NFA
Wouldn’t that be magical…We can hope!
If not, we are asking for tyranny.
Hopefully. Tons of common use right now right?
Eric is the first one on all of the internet to offer the best advice possible. Option 6. Massive civil disobedience is designed for times exactly like this. Everyone should ignore these laws. The political fight is instantly over when you give in to these unconstitutional decrees.
great episode fellas. actually answered a lot of questions and hit on some points that i've been saying that I haven't heard anyone else hit on, example if it takes them a year to get you a stamp now, how are they going to keep up with 40 million in 120 days. I won't BS, I filed one form for the simple fact I actually planned on SBR that particular gun anyways.. The rest will wait for now.
Thank you so much for using your platform and giving us very important information you guy’s are appreciate
I’m not registering or turning in anything and I pray nobody does but if people do comply be sure to get ready for them to change more definitions so they’ll be able to come back and get everything you have
yep, the more we comply, the more "rules" there will be.
Don't come armed on my doorstep.
Some will comply and I understand it
@@fro-yo-momma7082 no Time for soy boys in this war !!
@@groundpounder8373 no tou fou in my house
Lets call it like it is, that was not a coincidence they put it out the Friday before SHOT show
Obviously is obviously
Guys. Great video. Congrats on that and quitting drinking. Did the same a few years back and it's been awesome. Many blessings to you and yours.
Only "We the People" can truly put an end to.this Tyranny!!!
This is the Watershed moment, not because braces are something incredible, but because how many people are going to be effected, and how it had been done. This isn't the time to just sit and moan about it, peaceful assembly & protest is still legal, use it or loose it.
Tell us when and where to gather and you can lead the protest.
@@bowdezaufa2609 Do you want to come all the way to Germany?
Nah we will probably just lose it. The writing has been on the wall for a while.
Petyr is so scared, he's in everyone's comments being an agent provocateur. Common little guy. We are waiting 😇
@@SandrasSpicySpanishSalami so the ATF is enforcing this in Germany as well? Or you are just telling other people they should do something about it, but your not going to because it doesn't even effect you?
The fact that after 89 years SBR’s are still restricted under the NFA really says something about the ineptitude of the pro gun movement.
Facts!
Bingo.
Agreed. NFA not being repealed when prohibition was, is damning in itself.
Thank you guys for your hard work. You speek the truth.
Nope. They are WAY off on how the law actually works.
Enjoy your content & valuable intel. Appreciate you time & energy on our behalf & rights. Spot on
What's sad is some poor S.O.B who does not follow/apolitical anything will take his braced pistol to the range and get his life destroyed
That's what scares me having my life destroyed by a piece of plastic. I think there should be a letter sent out to all gun owners informing them of a new law or rule telling them they are all felons if they dont remove the brace on there pistol .
@@jakejames1977 well how would you know who is a gun owner and who isn't?
@Jacob Long the Govt. has no duty it educate on laws, that is your job
Exactly, not everyone will know this happened and be crucified
I'll ruin mine and every tyrants life that tries to stop me. This is a hill I will die on.
By demanding everyone Remove their brace They are going to make that firearm Less safe. Bracing your pistol Really just makes it more Accurate I would think.
Stop using sense, it is prohibited, because the government doesn't use it.
Literally ONE WEEK after the bump-stock ban was overturned.
And if that is ok... Guess what about the brace?
This has been therapeutic for me.
I feel better knowing people are seeing this as I see it.
Great video, guys! Us Georgians have to stick together. The ATF should be a really great store, not a regulatory agency.
Gwinnett county where I live is ran by a liberal sheriff. My brother is leaving the dept to go to a Republican ran dept. I wont say where to protect em but he did tell me this Sheriff in Gwinnett is the type to comply with this ruling and come after us. Not surprised.
Thanks for these informative videos gentlemen. Greatly appreciated!
Uncouth rednecks he says. These guys put out more useful information in one video. Then all the other videos I've been watching for the past two days combined. Thank you very much gentlemen. Outstanding video.
The fact that some will comply is what's gonna make it more dangerous
Lets not forget about the thousands of people who wanted to register it as an SBR and submitted to but are now PAST that 120 days as more paperwork keeps coming in for registration so they have a nice loooong list of guys admitting they have SBRs and admittance of intending to use it as such in paperwork they sent in and all the info they need to stop by to talk to them about it, lol
If you design a gadget that protrudes from your shoulder, the buffer tube can slide into it and now they have to regulate your clothing. So silly.
Thanks for covering this issue. It's really great to hear so many different opinions. You guys did a great job as always 👏!
So what the atf is saying is this, ditch the braces, just buy a stock
That's what I'm getting from this
I travel out of state too much to fool with a stock. I don’t have time to send a “mother may I” letter to the ATF every time I leave the house. Which is what they want us all to do. No thanks, I’m keeping my mushy SBA3.
Next your stove, your car , your house , your businesses will be illegal
Thank you so much for helping explain this in better detail.
I got it! how about a stock that doesn't mount to the gun behind it but rather has a sight incorporated into it and it ONLY mounts on the top rail so its not really a stock just an "ugly" HUGE rear sight...
I'm having a hard time believing well ever have a president who will care for the Constitution again.
Im almost at the age to run! watch what gets changed!
Thank You Guys for keeping on top of this. I believe it was Charlie Murphy talking about Rick James while doing a Dave Chappelle Show skit that said ... 'Rick was a habitual line stepper.' That bit was Classic! Watching that right after You Guys. Peace!! 🤠
I love that skit 😂😂. It was Charlie Murphy.
"*uck yo' couch *igga!"
Whether you own a Hi-Point or a Smith and Wesson, stock up on supplies to fit your needs. I can honestly say that I’m more than content with my inventory.
Dismantle and delete got it. The state I’m in hopefully has it covered till this cluster gets sorted. Thanks for your content
Thank you both!
It even says the FAOM SLEEVE over a pistol buffer is an SBR!!
Sitting here fondling one of my braced pistols wondering what the white stocked rifle is behind Eric lol great video as always. These battles definitely need to be fought as hard as possible
That's a special edition Henry lever action 22lr with some crazy engravings.
@@ryanhutchinson3550 I was thinking it looked like something classic like that with the tang on the bottom and engraving. Thank you very much. Honestly didn't think I'd get an answer 🤣
Hey, no prob! I think Eric did a video with that a little while back. I remember that stock from seeing it at a store. I think it has a 20" hex barrel🤔
Disband the ATF.
Just found this channel. Appreciate the insight you guys shared. Just subscribed.
They give bad and dangerous legal advice that they pull out of their asses. Beware.
Of course it's a registry. The application for the tax stamp is clearly titled "Application to Make and Register a Firearm".
This new ruling is crazy.
Lol ikr. It’s a rule tho and NOT A LAW
Is tyranny "crazy" to you?
@@haroldjedrzejczyk9449 tyranny is bad, crazy is bad…so yeah.
Technically it was charlie murphy that said "habitual line stepper"
I've been saying that them waiving a clearly defined in law tax can never happen. It is not an interpretation. Intentionally not collecting taxes is treason and is potentially a threat to national security. This is another example of making "laws" as they go.
“Oh well we can’t process that many applications so we will just confiscate your braces” that’s how I see this playing out
One of the best episodes you guys have made!
Eric hit it with the Devil analogy, right on the money! Thank you guys for all that you do, I really mean that. OUR VOICE!!!(YA'LL KICKING BUTT ON THIS ONE!!!)
All the cowards will still be saying "I'm a law abiding citizen " with tobacco juice dripping from their mouth on their way to the guillotine because gave all of their rights away.
Great video. But it was Charlie Murphy who said habitual line stepper 😂
A really great & informative Gun Gripe, guys. Thanks for the time & effort you put into everything you do.
Courage cant be judged by a casual glance, or the sound of a voice. Any fighting man will tell you, you must know fear to find your true strength.
Chad trying to keep Eric from going on rants is as entertaining as the information presented in this video.
I agree that this is about a gun registration. That is why I don’t own an SBR and only have pistol braces. Why would someone choose to own an SBR over a pistol if you can legally own a pistol?
Logic and government. Oil and water ...
Missed one item. As FFLs, if no lawsuits work, we get 60 days, not 120 days
Doesn't seem legal to me.
Very helpful video. Thank you for all you are doing to help educate others
Gentlemen, as always tremendous video. History should be lesson to all we can not allow this takeover of law abiding Americans rights. Thank you
28:28 that would be cool if you could just register lower stripped receivers, but the ATF said you have to take a picture of the firearm and its length. So no, you cannot register stripped receivers. They are being very clever about this and a bunch of snakes.
Cool if you could register? Just that sounds like your on the wrong foot. I did not think a federal gun registry was legal?
Problem with Eric's "pin a can on it" solution is that only a handful of states that disallow SBRs, allow cans.
WA I believe is one of them, but I don't think CA and NY are.
I don't think anyone has talked about what if you already own an SBR. I would think you could remove the braces from your other items and just leave them not installed. Because I could always put the brace on my SBR. I would think it would be like someone that that 16" AR15 and SBR AR15 (say no AR pistol) you can have multiple
My guess is they use their 88,000 new IRS agents. When they audit people and see an AR pistol purchase they report you to the ATF.
Thanks great show with man6 historical points. AR pistols shoot fine without a brace. Before the brace, I had a neoprene pad on my buffer tube and rubber pad on the end.
And your point is what?
These unilateral changes to existing laws always make me wonder why bureaucrats hate our veterans so much?
Its not that they hate veterans, they are scared that when the public finds out what they have really been doing, they're scared that the people will (deservedly?) come for them.
Just one man's opinion.
@@jeffvalasek4774 totally agree with you, served as a ranger for 10 years and another 5 in regular army and I can tell you we are the ones the government needs to fear. It's pure stupidity to piss off millions of people who your government spent tax dollars on to become the most lethal motherfucker on the battlefield. I have sat back and watched over the years and bit my tongue on alot of issues, voter fraud, gas prices, grocery prices, etc..... But when they take millions of us and make us felons overnight that will be the final straw
You know the braces have to be submitted, not approved within 120days