Very sweet! Yeah, he's enlightening, Graham Hancock (whom in recent years revolutionised archaeology, and others helping to rewrite history for the better. :3
@@Critical_Capybara well, I guess I could do your homework for you.... I put the information towards the end of this comment. I would just like to go over some stuff prior to that since this is a one time only reply to you here. I mean, you're not paying attention to recent archaeology and news then. But some others here have, apparently looking at my thumbs up too. And you posed a question... I mostly don't go back to comments and I keep the notifications off for replies. But I'm here just looking at replies and such for this new video. I could easily win a vegan debate if people argued based on leading facts of leading health studies, leading science stating what early humans thrived on, major health issue statistics in the modern day, world hunger, hidden animal treatment of almost all farms on record, and the dying planet mostly linked to animal agriculture. It's not relevent here but it is to show cognitive dissonance, conveniences, and how the mockery is hilarious for how many people choose to suffer from major health issues that are mostly attributed to diet (while exercise is hardly done by most people and exercise only makes up about 5-10% of your health factors expert say). How type two diabetes is only caused by animal fat, many cancers have been reversed, and other breakthroughs in study by three or four weeks alone of being plant-based/vegan (as more and more celebrities, too ultra marathon runners, Olympians, and others choose to go). I could go on about silly myths debunked and stupid arguments about plants (and how meat eaters actually kill more to feed around 72 billion killed baby animals each year while around 1 billion humans starve on a daily basis). And so on and so forth. But that's not the debate here. #GoVegan 💚 if you and/or anyone here is interested. And again, I'm not going back and forth here either. This is one post. If you care to enjoy, enjoy, if you are neutral, you're neutral, and if you like to be closed minded and play mock games like some do, be my guest (as I said it's easy to mock the average American that looks like a walking seal/whale, like Free Willy.... Except Free Willy, like all other animals but humans, doesn't have obesity and diet confusion issues. Obviously not everyone wants to agree and most people in the comment section aren't even archaeologists anyways. Graham Hancock has been a huge influence to younger archaeologists. One guy who appeared in the latest GH interview with Joe Rogan (the largest podcaster known and GH is one of his best guests a majority will say) even proved against the mainstream that the early church use psychedelics and how ancient containers have traces of wine and other drugs mixed in that skeptics wrote off prior. ua-cam.com/video/XS5qjEXS6oM/v-deo.html Also, Egypt seems much older than it is dated but there's a biased to make sure it's not stated any older. But plenty believe it's quite old, especially seeing how humans are much older than thought in recent years. Humans date at least 250k years old. That being said.... I'll go ahead and give you the info but I'm not gonna go back and forth with you. It's helped more digs and such, even after mockery. Like plenty but not all material atheists love to do, mockery. As over 20% of "material atheists" are actually anonymously polled as nonreligious but spiritual. Some are hard pressed to maintain the movement from Europe against religion and hate anything outside of base reality being mundane and their scientism idea of brains creating consciousness (when neuroscientists and many other medical workers oppose their brain concept). Simulation theory is accepted by over 50% of scientists right now, once laughed at. Biocentrism is a fabulous model of thought by one of our leading scientists in the modern era (as TIME Magazine puts it) which is mocked by material atheists. Panpsychism is growing more attention too. My comment isn't for your approval, as a heads up. I'm not here to convince any scientism follower (someone who bases everything of their life on hand picked science consensus almost like a religion which defeats the idea science to ponder on questions). The information is put here for whoever else to see it. I probably wouldn't go back and forth with you in messaging or in person. I would agree to disagree. I'll give you copy and pasted sections of this article I'll use and '..' is where I break up the copy and pastes. Gaia uses sources (Gaia article: www.gaia.com/article/turkish-archaeologists-find-site-much-older-than-gobekli-tepe): Literally written in stone, found in newly excavated digs, are the remains of a people we know little or nothing about, and now a new discovery has emerged that’s even older - by a thousand years or so - than Göbekli Tepe. .. Smithsonian magazine noted that Göbekli Tepe (sometimes written as “gobekli tepe” or “göbekli tepe”) predates Stonehenge by 6,000 years and “upends the conventional view of the rise of civilization.” The site is regarded as early evidence of prehistoric worship, featuring unmistakable temples and stunningly carved stone monoliths. ... At this point in time, the site of Göbekli Tepe remains unexcavated, with about 90 percent of the site still underground, and Boncuklu Tara is also just now being uncovered. Only an open mind may yield a more accurate picture of the world as it was 12,000-plus years ago, perhaps changing the timeline of human history. .. Australian media outlet SBS, wrote, “The mainstream like to quash men like Hancock due to some of the more outlandish theories he put forward as a younger writer, but he remains steadfast in his belief that Tepe will force us to rewrite history, insisting the onus to get to the literal bottom of this whole situation is on the scientific community; that the truth lies within the vast remainder of untouched history waiting in the site’s belly.” At this point in time, the site of Göbekli Tepe remains unexcavated, with about 90 percent of the site still underground, and Boncuklu Tara is also just now being uncovered. Only an open mind may yield a more accurate picture of the world as it was 12,000-plus years ago, perhaps changing the timeline of human history.
Much appreciation for featuring Abdullah! A fascinating discussion. I just subscribed to his channel, and promptly viewed several videos in a row. Excellent content over there. Again thanks! 👍
I love this,..this is pure exploration stimulated by hunger for truth,..paved with compassion. You have such interesting thoughtful guests on your Mythvision podcasts Derek! This program you have created is going places and helping in a productive way in this massively changing world! What a time to be alive!
Such a joy to watch this! Love this kind of passion and enthusiasm. Also, inviting an ex muslim is the right move when discussing islam. It would also be interesting to hear from a progressive practicing muslim.
I don't know if Abdullah Sameer is a Christian or Atheist but I honestly and truthfully support this fella for leaving Islam. He seems like a smart individual and good for him for knowing the difference. Anyway STAY AWAY FROM ISLAM
Your channel has helped me see that what I've felt for so Lang, many people feel this way. I have finally left islam once and for all. The fear is real. I'm scared of people I once knew. But I have faith in a future free from fundamentalists. Free from religion
I have friends who left Islam who have the same revulsion - hard to overcome such a deep cultural aspect to it, for sure. (You're not missing out, as I'm sure you suspected!)
@@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow .... if you have never had a maple glazed ham...or Jamón Serrano ... and Manchego cheese on a baguette with a bit of olive oil and onions.... you are missing one of the pure pleasure of life.
@Emilio Alvarez ... I go to a Publix grocery store... they make a fantastic sub ... I always order Mortadella + Jamón Serrano + Manchego Cheese + Mayo and lots of onions and a bit of lettuce..... heaven in a sandwich .... if they do not have Jamón Serrano I substitute Maple Glazed Ham... and if no Manchego I substitute Pepper Jack.... but they always seem to have the Mortadella .... I never like Salami or Pepperoni ....
@Emilio Alvarez ... you can buy slices from a deli... then buy an Italian baguette or French... and then make your own at home... I do that too... when I am not lazy.... use a good Mayonnaise... I hope you try it ... I am sure you will love it... now I am hungry.... hehehe.
I am Muslim and I'm really enjoying this podcast. I have found myself facing the same kinds of issues, but, at the same time, I'm very comfortable in my Muslim skin. To me, belief is less important than how you behave and how you speak and how you dress.
@@blackpalacemusic 😂 you believe doing Good is good That's why you do good When does belief becomes less important when it all about your daily activity
Hi Abdullah, I was born to a paternal Buddhist background and maternal Catholic background. Due to mixed influences from the Temple, Church and the Hindu Kovil and my fellow Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist friends, browsing the Qur'an, bible, Torah, Hindu scriptures etc from the internet, and my scientific analysis made me conclude that every faith or philosophy has pluses and minuses along with preposterous, unscientific faith-magnets to lure in the people. Hence, I accept what is scientifically plausible and have explained to my children to use their wisdom, to believe in the scientific approach, logic, use common sense, good social moral and practices to live harmoniously in society. After all, even the Buddha has said to question and questions and question all his teachings and not to accept anything because it was said by him, in holy texts, passed down from generations, said by scholars or be it the social practice, unless it's fits one's wisdom. Now, that's acceptable for any period of time 😊
I learn so much about religions which I have no interest in participating in from your channel and others. I know almost nothing about islam, but as with all the abrahamic religions I like to learn more. Thank you for this great discussion.
This was awesome... I am an ex bible thumber... Baptized in the Catholic and Pentecost denominations. I was raised Baptist. I was mormon for a few years then join the Nation of Islam, dabbled in Sunni Islam .. Left all of that and now I am borderline agnostic/ nonbeliever so mythvision has been a great learning tool...
Abdullah you are indeed a learned scholar deserving a Nobel prize for your intelligence. I stopped my children from going to Buddhist sunday school since they were using faith over fact and was building a the fraternity in the guise of good morals lije a sandwich while teaching good and unscientific stuff. Abdullah i wholeheartedly understand your position. In fact, I know a person who abandoned his wife and sick child after 50 years of marriage for priesthood due to childhood religious indoctrination by his mother who was deceased left his wife and elderly sick child to comply with his deceased mother and for social veneration which are against all morals. When i submitted all facts to the concerned parties, they turned against me and said such actions to be supreme for becoming a priest and cannot be understood by me. This us utter BS and sugarcoating such actions. I am a person who swims agaist the tide and trust me its so hard or virtually impossible to find an intelligent person who can discern right from wrong even if it means going against society.😢
I notice you don't have real muslim experts on your show, why is that? Ali Ataie, probably the ONLY HUMAN on this planet that knows classical Arabic/Hebrew/Coine Greek.
Aside from some here and there trolls in the chat, great stuff! There's more outreach for Muslims now that we finally got an ex Muslim perspective in the video library. :3 Thanks for the work you do, MythVision Podcast! #GoVegan 💚 #AntiReligion #Agnostic #Spiritual #SimulationTheory #TomCampbell #Centrist
Best way to be totally honest is to say to yourself, "I will accept(believe) whatever the evidence points to, even if it goes against my childhood indoctrination.This is how I came out of my indoctrination. I said to myself I must accept reluctuntly whatever the evidence point to as the nature of reality. , , , , ,
To be fair a Sunni Muslim does not have to pay full cash to buy a house.I don't know the details but Muslims can go to a Muslim financial company and go through a co-buying process where the house buyer and the finance company share ownership and the finance's company share of ownership is bought by the house buyer over time.
The ongoing research by Mel from Sneaker´s Corner and dr. Jay Smith on Pfander films and their guests is very interesting. Maybe Umar was the man and Muhammed his title....
Great video, I believe in my spiritual moral compass. To respect others, be truthful and be at peace with yourself. No one is perfect but to learn by past mistakes and change. I don't follow any faith. Xx
Since Islam believes that Mohamed is guaranteed by God of going to Islamic paradise why the hell do Muslims all the time ( during prayers or no prayers ) say Sallahu Aleyhi wa sallim ( asking God to give Mohamed peace & paradise ) . Isn't that confusing , contradicting and wasting talk . Is it not nonesense to ask God to give paradise to one of His Own creatures who even claimed guarantee of such paradise ?
@@abdigah5364a real hoax you say 😂 why have these atheists destroyed all cultures and religions but Islam. They may cripple our countries but can never extinguish the faith. Allah is the master planner.
@@Ufb10 Ask goodness from God for your self is normal But to ask something from God for someone who claimed to be a prophet of God and claimed have been guaranteed for Paradise is a contradictory rubbish waste
*Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at **AnsweringIslam.org** Hadith and Sira* *Sahih Bukhari (52:177) -Allah's Apostle said, *"The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."* *Sahih Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhamad hes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.* *Sahih Bukhari (52:65) - The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word (Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause. Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad - spreading Islam by force. This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today. (See also Sahih Bukhari 3:125)* *Abu Dawud (14:2526) (considered daif) - The Prophet said, Threethings are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet...* *Abu Dawud (14:2527) (considered daif) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious* *Sahih Muslim (**1:33**) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah* *Sahih Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."* *Sahih Muslim (**1:30**) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."* *Sahih Bukhari (52:73) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords'."* *Sahih Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."* *Sahih Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."* *Sahih Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad inOne of Islam's most revered modern scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, openly sanctions offensive Jihad: "In the Jihad which you are seeking, you look for the enemy and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only when the Islamic state is invading other [countries] in order to spread the word of Islam and to remove obstacles standing in its way."...*
I am an exmuslim, this guy is wrong about getting loans. No interest loans are permitted. You get a loan with an agreed final amount that does not change fir the term of the loan. Its a better system. Eg: Borrow 100k and the lender asks for 20k fee for lending you the money. Interest is considered the Evil of the world. He is not quite accurate. As an exmuslim It upsets me when accuracy is not used.... He is talking about people and not islam its self.
@@oliverswales5604 In Islam, a loan is seen as an act of charity, not an opportunity for increased wealth. Its purpose is to help someone in need. Loans (qard) never to bear interest (Riba). Instead,, a borrower must pay only the loan’s principal. The Qur’an repeatedly contrasts charity with usury (riba) and has been considered one of the seven major destructive sins ever since the time of the Qu’ran’s origin. Accuracy is important. The lender can ask for a fee for giving the loan if there is no other exchange that can be given. The fee must be agreeable to both parties. And is understood that it should not be higher than inflation costs.....
Modern workers can be considered as slaves if exploited or mistreated. Slaves who were very ignorant or very poor were better off than to be left to starve but not exploited to be eventually weaned off to independence.
In Islam you won’t be eventually weaned off unless your owner desires it , if the owner wants he can keep you a slave all your life according to Islam if he wants he can free you
We are constantly fighting against such systems today , but Islam has forever left the door to slavery open because of the concept of jihad and they believe Islam is perfect
'In the 21st century, we should try and move on..' To where, or to what, exactly? Notwithstanding the fact the ancient Judeo-Christian tradition is the very author of [a] universal moral value system we have today, in the 21st century.. Go back in time to the world Jephtah from Judges lived in, no one besides the people who worshipped Yhwh had a viable moral/ethical code to prevail. This means we have no better reference from far back in antiquity, for our morality in the present day. Go back to the days of Jephtah, we would with our contemporary understanding and knowledge find refuge with the Israelites, undoubtedly.
To go from one dimension to a higher dimensions, not necessarily from one physical planet to another planet. Imams ( like Hindu pujaries) are ritual discharges not scholars. Peace-be-upon-him is mere respectful attitude like “your highness” when referring to royal people.
Pre-Islamic History & Early History of Arabia Just After Islam - part1 ======================================================================= Hmmm...sorry, but you lot know little about archaeology or history of the region, least of all this guy you invited. Here are tips to guide you: - *Nabatean Arabs formed the first Arab empire* . They were mostly mercantile and influenced by the strong Greco-Roman presence around, such that their Semitic gods & goddesses acquired Hellenistic character. *The Hellenized Nabateans had the following deities* : Dushara = Zeus (some sources even mention the Pre-Islamic Allah equated to Zeus). Al Kutbay = Hermes/Mercury AlQaum = Ares/Mars Manawat = Nemesis Allat = Athena/Minerva Al-Uzza = Aphrodite, Urania/Venus, and Caelestis. - *The general Arabic word for deity is 'ilaah* إله'(sing.) = a god; and 'aalihah آلهة' (plural) = gods . One suggestion has been that 'Allah' is derived from 'al-ilaah'= The God, the 'alif' following the al- at the start being assimilated to give 'allaah'. In Pre-Islamic Arabia the word 'Allah الله' of course existed and the idea represented the highest deity in the Pre-Islamic Arabian pantheon of gods, just like the list I show above for the Nabateans. Much like other ideas, such as the annual Hajj, circumambulations of the Ka'bah, fasting etc., all with Pre-Islamic origin, Islam offered a new meaning and understanding to these ideas in line with 'ad-Diin ul Haniif' (the faith of the Haniif = Abraham). Therefore 'Allah' acquired a specific meaning as 'the only God' (The God), just like in Judaism and various forms of Christianities. Other Semitic languages also have equivalents and the closest being in Aramaic, the language of Jesus and his contemporaries. They spoke the Palestinian (Western) Aramaic dialect. Given that the language has other dialects, just like any other, the Syriac dialect, often called Syro-Aramaic, is the Eastern Aramaic dialect that was spoken in Ancient Syria and is still is spoken in some places in modern Syria! Aramaic cognate to Arabic ʾIlāh إله': Elah אלה means God Elahi אלהי (elaahii) Is Aramaic for "My God". The same as the Arabic إلاهي ilaaahii = "My God". In Urdu (also Persian) we still use إلاهي ilaaahii in speech, as well as poetry and prose. Written as الٰہی though, instead. - *The word Allah , therefore, is Pre-Islamic Arabic name and all Muslim scholars know it just as they know that thee annual Hajj and fasting are all Pre-Islamic in origin. The advent of Islam just gave them a new meaning. The Quran even talk about some of these things* . -There are some who argue argue and wonder about the origins of the Quranic script. We all know that the Arabic script we have is derived from Nabatean. This has been known for over a century, so all those who argue about the lack of diacritics in the earliest "maa'ili" or Hejazi script of the Quran papyri, or that it should be Sabaic, or the 'taa marbutah' or the 'alif maqsura' being there are problem, make no sense! None of these arguments hold including the often dubiously cited "diacritics argument" - they make no sense, i.e. if the Quran is from the South using Sabaic Arabic then it should have diacritics. It was never written in Sabaic! There are plenty of inscriptions in the southern regions using the same Arabic script as the Quran (the Nabatean script), and have no diacritics. Also, the Sabaic script was completely different too that it bears no relation. -Additionally, *the Syro-Aramaic Quran idea was thoroughly discredited by western scholars of Aramiac & Semitic languages* , all the way back when the pseudonymous Christoph Luxenberg , a non-German thoroughly Lebanese pseudo scholar pretending to be German (!), with only a passing knowledge of Syriac and Aramaic, came up with this nonsense. This is as much believable as 'Haigarism' by Crone and Cook, another piece of non-scholarly and thoroughly defective work. Before her death Patricia Crone withdrew her waffle! Here are some things that would interest some of you: *Sabaic lexical survivals in the Arabic language and dialects of Yemen* Walter W. Müller Proceedings of the Seminar for Arabian Studies Vol. 44, Supplement: Language of Southern Arabia: Papers from the Special Session of the Seminar for Arabian Studies held on 27 July 2013 (2014), pp. 89-99 (11 pages) Published By: Archaeopress Proceedings of the Seminar for Arabian Studies www.jstor.org/stable/43782853 [cont. part2]
This is the reason why I said Muslims religion derived from Catholic Christianity Mohammed didn't received a word he took the bible and made it for his people and rewritten / change by Caliph Uthman
Story of Buroq is similar with thor's flying donkey and he traveled trough the space without knowing earth is round,, that is why muslim's have qiblat..
If anyone is interested in hearing a progressive understanding of Christian teachings go watch the UA-cam videos of All Saints church in Pasadena. Yes, I too would like to hear an interview with a progressive Muslim. What was considered morally ok in the past is not so in the present ie child marriage, ie slavery, ie having your brother marry your wife if you die before you have children. I think it is really easy to say what we don't believe. It's much harder to say what we do believe in. I've noted that many atheists grew up in fundamentalist homes. I've also noticed that many are unable to think metaphorically.
Salvation is a personal journey, not a group journey. Elijah Mohamed is human. Follow God, not a human, like Christians & Nation of Islam & Aga Khan followers do. Some Muslims are on the boarder-line on prophet Mohamed’s status. In fact the Qur’an warns on that point. Stories from other than Qur’an is to be careful of, like Hadiths.
I don’t see any evidence for anything un-natural, therefore I am not convinced that there is anything unnatural or supernatural like gods, spirits, miracles, magic, ‘jadoo’, ‘jins’ and ‘rooh’ and gods . originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, , , , I did not use to click the "like" button because I travel to Pakistan and did not want to get into any trouble for liking your videos, , , , I put multiple comments in videos I agree with to get youtube algorithm to recommend it to others,,,,
Why don’t u bring a real expert on Islam on. You’re just bringing guests who say what u want to hear to confirm your conception that all religion is false. Echo chamber. So much for objectivity and truth.
Derek, go for the deep stuff. Gnosticism in Christianity, Kaballah in Judaism, Sufism in Islam, Advaita-Vedanta in Hinduism etc Seek out the 'golden thread'..
One Simple Question...Please...Why is Islam gaining Millions Every Year of World Renowned Scholars and Non Scholars from all corners of the world from different age, sex, scientific, social and economic backgrounds?
My comment to mr. Sameer : Allah is too Powerful, too Glorified to matter much of your claims. Salvation is a personal journey. Umma is a support for the individual. Effort is more important than results. Try your best. Man is weak.
To paraphrase Lt.Col Kilgore (Robert Duvall) in 1979's cult-level classic Apocalypse Now "God Loves the smell of Babies Burning in the morning! [....] Smells to him ... like Victory."
@@joefilter2923 Hmm... I'm confused: What do you mean by "Why lie?"...? Do you mean to say I am lying, or do you mean it as a .... (I'm trying to find the correct English word, which at times is severely difficult, so bear with me if - English isn't my native tounge, nor the native language where I reside) ... hm... okey, never mind the term, let's just go with a paraphrase of intention which would be something like: "I agree, there's no point in lying about it, and yet so many tires to hide from reality" - was that (a version of) what you ment to say? As I said: I'm confused, because A: I know there are a hord of people out there who can't - or have a hard time doing so - cope with the reality of the bible, and of the Abrahamic god, including the different teachings and scriptures dealing with the Abrahamic god (i.e. Christianity, Judaism, Islam + their myriad of denominations). Not knowing you, I can't tell if you consider yourself a follower of any of them and feeling hurt, attacked, or questioned in your belief, or perhaps being one of the many who confess to a belief system without really being knowledgeable about the texts that dictates them, you fall backwards into false accusations - not out of spite, but out of self-preservation and/or misinformation? ... Again: I don't know you so I'm only guessing. Fully aware that I might be _way_ off and completely wrong! I'm also aware of the unfortunate fact that regardless if I'm hitting on something or if I'm completely wrong, I might be offending you. To that: Hopefully you'll take my word for my sincerity that it is not my intention to be offensive - My intention is trying to understand where you're coming from, while at the same time dealing with a subject that depending on who you're talking to, can be a figurative mine field. ... Wow, so many words, just to get to the next point ... or "part", if you will. (That's communication through the written word while dealing with barriers of language, distance, culture *_and_* personality, personal experience and personal reference, AND personal preference as well, for that matter. It's not easy being human, ey? ;) ) So, here we go: Why my confusion when the most logical interpretation aught to be that you're asking me why I'm lying? Well, it's as simple as it is obvious: Because as far as I know, and as far as I can tell from what the sources say: I'm not lying. Yes, I'm inflating on a conceptual level in order to make a joke of a serious topic, but that's not lying: it's a humor style that's as valid as it is both well known, and commonly used. And to do this thorough and correct: My sources are imdb.com och youtube.com for the Apocalypse Now quote and info. And for the character of god, I'm referencing the bible. Specifically Judges 11:34-40 (chapter 11, verse 34-40, in which god - who's supposedly omniscient, and omnipotent, and omnibenevolent - chooses Jeftas only child; his daughter to be burnt as an offering to him. And since we know that it's fully within god's supposed power and capacity to stop this burning of Jeftas only child by a plethora of options (causing a hinderense of the fire being lit, refusing to accept the vow made by Jefta, telling Jefta it would be wrong to burn his own daughter, swap the daughter for a porcupine, etc. etc. etc.) The options are really only limited by ones imagination, because we're dealing with an all powerful deity who created every single thing in existence: god, and only god, dictates the rules of engagement. And god, and only god, can change the rules, rearrange the pawns, redraw the board and swap, mix, and assign the players. And he can do it permanently, or occasionally: At his wim, on his wim, by his wim. We are told this over and over and over again throughout all 66 books of the bible. Point being: there's no limit to god's capabilities - If he doesn't act, it's because *he* chooses not to: there are no obligations when you're The One and Only God: Creator of Time, and Space and Everything in between. Ergo: God obviously likes it when parents burn their children, with the only possible caveat that it's done *for* him. Which, honestly, is a caveat that doesn't really speaks in god's favour, but that might just be me with my puny and limited not just _human_, but *atheist* =O sense of ethics and moral. That's one hell of a long answer for you, but there you go: that's my take, my questions, and my answer (or "defense" - depending on how you look at it). Cheers and Take care!
He was is an ex-Qadiani, I believe , which isn't a muslim group, just like Nabeel Quraishi. They have weird beliefs , like there is another prophet after Muhammad(as).
We Earthlings must put the religion thing and the question of God to rest once and for all. There is no God, no Devil, no angels, no demons, no paradise, no hell, no underworld, they're all myths created by the Priests left by the Anunnaki. Those bozos, who always worked in tandem with Kings chosen by the same Anunnaki. Why Enlil or Enki had to win the heart and mind of the crowd? Because the young gods (their offspring born on the Earth) were challenging them for supremacy. And since the people had the choice to worship the gods they wish, a god who manages to gather enough followers, can overthrow or conquer another god's domain, like Enlil did with Sargon of Akkad. And to those who claim there is a god, I'd like to ask them, why the Anunnaki, who created and conceived mankind, had their own GOD? They call HIM : THE GREAT CREATOR OF ALL BEGINNING. If our creators were worshiping their own deity, I'd like to know which GOD those various religions found on an industrial scale are talking about? This is a pure scam period. We humans have all the right to practice spirituality, and you don't have to stick to a God that does not exist to reach beatitude and enlightment. What exist is science on all its forms;m even what we call magic and spell are part of science, and to practice the science of magic and the occult, you must know the rites and the encantations; and encantations help you master the vibratory world that will allow you to merge with universe, act and see. There is no god or God, what the priests of this world do not want mankid to know is the fact that the GODS are us the Earthlings : We partly belong to this planet because one part of our DNA come from Nibiru; we are Earthlings and offspring of the gods. All of us are entitled to enjoy the ressources of our homeworld, not a tiny group of individuals who think they must stick to the system of slavery and crowd control the Anunnaki begun to practice after the Deluge. And as long as we don't free ourselves from the religion brain washing, there will always be masters and servants on this planet surface, not equal citizens of ONE HOME WORLD ...
Yo, I grew up in a legit Muslim fam, ya know? We ain't messin' around when it comes to the source of Islamic knowledge. We don't buy into that Bucailleism stuff, nah-uh! Islamic teachings are solid, bro. They ain't changin', while science keeps flippin' theories based on new evidence. Islam ain't just some religion, man. It's a whole way of life. As for the political side, some peeps out there use Islam as a power tool to gain control, while others genuinely use it as a guide. So, don't go blaming Islam 'cause some folks manipulate it for their own gain. Now, you wanna talk about why Islam ain't true? Well, gimme a solid argument. What you got?
The 1400 years old book of regurgitated fairy tales says that its sky daddy did the job of blowing in the (الفرج) of Mary.... do you think this true or even moral or sane thing to say? Try to google that word.
Islam is an Arab centric heretical xtianity based on nestorianism and rabbinic Judaism. In their mythology, Jesus is a prophet who did not die, and will return to "break the cross and kill the pigs." It's not that interesting. It's just another overreaching faith based imperial cult.
In the Quran, the only message of Jesus is basically to say "I'm just a prophet". First of all, this contradicts the fact that he is also described as the messiah and word of god. Secondly, the message of Jesus is otherwise completely empty. how do you find that interesting?
What happened to this channel, it was supposed to interview scholars on religion but this video sounds somebody is still learning the alphabet of religion!
@Derek.... there is a worse story in the Tanakh that proves that *Yehwah COMMANDED and received human sacrifice in order to abate a famine he caused* ... in the story of Jephthah's Daughter, staunch apologists can try and wriggle and slither out of Yehwah being directly to blame ... but in this story, David sacrificed 7 grandsons of Saul... as commanded directly by Yehwah... and then Yehwah actually ended the famine which he caused and demanded human sacrifice to stave off. 2 Samuel 21:1-14 And there was a ***famine*** in the days of David three years.... And ***YHWH said*** : 'It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he put to death the Gibeonites.'... the king ***took the two sons*** of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore unto Saul... and the ***five sons of Michal*** the daughter of Saul... and they ***hanged them in the mountain before YHWH*** , and they fell all seven together; and ***they were put to death*** in the days of harvest... And after that ***God was entreated for the land***. There is also another story where Yehwah commands the human sacrifice of a guy called Achan and his entire family and possessions in order to RESUME HELPING with war crimes that he commanded ... and he received the human sacrifice he commanded and did indeed resume in helping with the war crimes. Joshua 7:1-26 ....for Achan, the son of Carmi, ... took of the devoted thing; and the ***anger of YHWH was kindled*** against the children of Israel.... And ***YHWH said*** unto Joshu... there is a curse in the midst of thee, O Israel... take away the accursed thing from among you .... And Joshua... ***took Achan ... and his sons, and his daughters,*** and his oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and his tent, and all that he had... And ***all Israel stoned him with stones; and they burned them with fire,*** and stoned them with stones....and ***YHWH turned from the fierceness of His anger*** And do not forget these others where Yehwah commanded human sacrifice The firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast... I sacrifice to YHWH... (Exodus 13:1-16) The firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me... (Exodus 22:29-30 ) 3,000 Hebrews (Exodus 32:28) 32 little virgins from the genocided nation of Midianites (Numbers 31:40) The daughter of Jephthah (Judges 11:30-39) 70,000 Israelites (2 Samuel 24:15)
@@buzzwordy9951 ... I agree of course... but horses for courses... for this guy he thinks he does and that he was a good guy... I am trying to show him that EVEN IF he did ... he was not a good guy.... this is a ubiquitous trope... they want to argue that Jesus was a kind of Gandhi or Martin Luther King or Nelson Mandela character and thus even without the religion and supernatural claptrap he was still a real GREAT guy.... and to argue the myth angle is way too much above the head of theses people... much easier to just show them that the very New Tall tales show him to have been a NASTY poltroon and a racist Cad who was a Cult leader FISHER OF MEN and a pissant who did nothing and achieved nothing and wrote nothing and changed nothing and did not even start a movement ... just a gang of mendicant hobos who left their jobs and their children and families unprotected and unprovided for to go about having feet washing orgies and midnights in secluded gardens and deceiving poor people with false faith healing voodoo and other magic tricks.
@@suelingsusu1339 You will never convince a Jesus freak about anything unless you are agreeing with him. They are in a mind trap that holds them believing. I'd rather keep my mind free and the windows open.
You talking about Islam but showing pictures of Hinduism, Greek Myths, Buddhism, Cartoon figures, Egyptian diagrams. Complete opposite of Islam, ie no images, idols or anything.
So I got it. Abdullah (?) Sameer has left Quran because of an Imam. And he is translating Abdullah as meaning servant of a devil. Sameer must be son or servant of devil and shaitan but Abdullah means servant of Allah
If you are taking idiots like Abdullah Sameer onto your show, then I say that you clearly have no clue about how much of an outcast he was, even in his former life.
u just have to disrespect anyone wholeft the religion and just cant digest to be respectful just like 'allah' isnt. as if u almost dehumanize these people in your head. how else would u jusrtify allah saying these ppl should be killed.
The first five minutes was extremely entertaining and had me glued to this topic. As an Archeologist, I genuinely love this channel...!
Very sweet! Yeah, he's enlightening, Graham Hancock (whom in recent years revolutionised archaeology, and others helping to rewrite history for the better. :3
@@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked, how did GH revolutionize archeology? 🤔
@@Critical_Capybara well, I guess I could do your homework for you.... I put the information towards the end of this comment. I would just like to go over some stuff prior to that since this is a one time only reply to you here. I mean, you're not paying attention to recent archaeology and news then. But some others here have, apparently looking at my thumbs up too. And you posed a question... I mostly don't go back to comments and I keep the notifications off for replies. But I'm here just looking at replies and such for this new video. I could easily win a vegan debate if people argued based on leading facts of leading health studies, leading science stating what early humans thrived on, major health issue statistics in the modern day, world hunger, hidden animal treatment of almost all farms on record, and the dying planet mostly linked to animal agriculture. It's not relevent here but it is to show cognitive dissonance, conveniences, and how the mockery is hilarious for how many people choose to suffer from major health issues that are mostly attributed to diet (while exercise is hardly done by most people and exercise only makes up about 5-10% of your health factors expert say).
How type two diabetes is only caused by animal fat, many cancers have been reversed, and other breakthroughs in study by three or four weeks alone of being plant-based/vegan (as more and more celebrities, too ultra marathon runners, Olympians, and others choose to go). I could go on about silly myths debunked and stupid arguments about plants (and how meat eaters actually kill more to feed around 72 billion killed baby animals each year while around 1 billion humans starve on a daily basis). And so on and so forth. But that's not the debate here. #GoVegan 💚 if you and/or anyone here is interested. And again, I'm not going back and forth here either. This is one post. If you care to enjoy, enjoy, if you are neutral, you're neutral, and if you like to be closed minded and play mock games like some do, be my guest (as I said it's easy to mock the average American that looks like a walking seal/whale, like Free Willy.... Except Free Willy, like all other animals but humans, doesn't have obesity and diet confusion issues.
Obviously not everyone wants to agree and most people in the comment section aren't even archaeologists anyways. Graham Hancock has been a huge influence to younger archaeologists. One guy who appeared in the latest GH interview with Joe Rogan (the largest podcaster known and GH is one of his best guests a majority will say) even proved against the mainstream that the early church use psychedelics and how ancient containers have traces of wine and other drugs mixed in that skeptics wrote off prior.
ua-cam.com/video/XS5qjEXS6oM/v-deo.html
Also, Egypt seems much older than it is dated but there's a biased to make sure it's not stated any older. But plenty believe it's quite old, especially seeing how humans are much older than thought in recent years. Humans date at least 250k years old.
That being said....
I'll go ahead and give you the info but I'm not gonna go back and forth with you. It's helped more digs and such, even after mockery. Like plenty but not all material atheists love to do, mockery. As over 20% of "material atheists" are actually anonymously polled as nonreligious but spiritual. Some are hard pressed to maintain the movement from Europe against religion and hate anything outside of base reality being mundane and their scientism idea of brains creating consciousness (when neuroscientists and many other medical workers oppose their brain concept). Simulation theory is accepted by over 50% of scientists right now, once laughed at. Biocentrism is a fabulous model of thought by one of our leading scientists in the modern era (as TIME Magazine puts it) which is mocked by material atheists. Panpsychism is growing more attention too.
My comment isn't for your approval, as a heads up. I'm not here to convince any scientism follower (someone who bases everything of their life on hand picked science consensus almost like a religion which defeats the idea science to ponder on questions). The information is put here for whoever else to see it. I probably wouldn't go back and forth with you in messaging or in person. I would agree to disagree.
I'll give you copy and pasted sections of this article I'll use and '..' is where I break up the copy and pastes.
Gaia uses sources
(Gaia article: www.gaia.com/article/turkish-archaeologists-find-site-much-older-than-gobekli-tepe):
Literally written in stone, found in newly excavated digs, are the remains of a people we know little or nothing about, and now a new discovery has emerged that’s even older - by a thousand years or so - than Göbekli Tepe.
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Smithsonian magazine noted that Göbekli Tepe (sometimes written as “gobekli tepe” or “göbekli tepe”) predates Stonehenge by 6,000 years and “upends the conventional view of the rise of civilization.” The site is regarded as early evidence of prehistoric worship, featuring unmistakable temples and stunningly carved stone monoliths.
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At this point in time, the site of Göbekli Tepe remains unexcavated, with about 90 percent of the site still underground, and Boncuklu Tara is also just now being uncovered. Only an open mind may yield a more accurate picture of the world as it was 12,000-plus years ago, perhaps changing the timeline of human history.
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Australian media outlet SBS, wrote, “The mainstream like to quash men like Hancock due to some of the more outlandish theories he put forward as a younger writer, but he remains steadfast in his belief that Tepe will force us to rewrite history, insisting the onus to get to the literal bottom of this whole situation is on the scientific community; that the truth lies within the vast remainder of untouched history waiting in the site’s belly.”
At this point in time, the site of Göbekli Tepe remains unexcavated, with about 90 percent of the site still underground, and Boncuklu Tara is also just now being uncovered. Only an open mind may yield a more accurate picture of the world as it was 12,000-plus years ago, perhaps changing the timeline of human history.
I was hoping more for a “GH revolutionized archeology by...” and then the thing he did but you cant always get what you want 🤷🏼♂️
Abdullah Sameer is the Best.
He is my new Prophet.....
Much appreciation for featuring Abdullah! A fascinating discussion.
I just subscribed to his channel, and promptly viewed several videos in a row. Excellent content over there.
Again thanks! 👍
I love this,..this is pure exploration stimulated by hunger for truth,..paved with compassion. You have such interesting thoughtful guests on your Mythvision podcasts Derek! This program you have created is going places and helping in a productive way in this massively changing world! What a time to be alive!
You guys and these discussions are making the world better ... through delightful dialogue and beautiful inquisitive thought.
Great interview! I was glued to the screen!
This is an amazing interview, definitely a 👁 opener. Your guest is awesome, going to sub to his channel👋😎👍
Such a joy to watch this! Love this kind of passion and enthusiasm. Also, inviting an ex muslim is the right move when discussing islam. It would also be interesting to hear from a progressive practicing muslim.
Progressive practicing knowledgeable* Muslim.
This is a great interview
Abdullah was so enthusiastic in this interview, just a pleasure to listen to.
I proud to be an hindusim 🕉🙏but we respect all religion
I don't know if Abdullah Sameer is a Christian or Atheist but I honestly and truthfully support this fella for leaving Islam. He seems like a smart individual and good for him for knowing the difference. Anyway STAY AWAY FROM ISLAM
He's an atheist
You are full of hatred and directing it at Islam. As you like.
You have to see Non Stamp collectors take on Abraham's sacrifice. Something about using the psychopath test by mistake. Priceless!
Your channel has helped me see that what I've felt for so Lang, many people feel this way. I have finally left islam once and for all. The fear is real. I'm scared of people I once knew. But I have faith in a future free from fundamentalists. Free from religion
Very brave man. I wish him well in his future.
I love Abdullah Sameer's nuance when speaking about Islam.
Ignorance 😢
@@Realhumanitey Good news! Ignorance can be fixed, but Islam can't. (sad Mohammad emoji).
I'm an exmuslim and I don't eat pork ^^ i don't think I will eat it. It's like poop for me. A disgust mecanism in the brain from childhood
I have friends who left Islam who have the same revulsion - hard to overcome such a deep cultural aspect to it, for sure. (You're not missing out, as I'm sure you suspected!)
@@aleksstosich yes I still have all other meats like chiken, duck, turkey, rabbit, beef, sheep, goat
@@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow .... if you have never had a maple glazed ham...or Jamón Serrano ... and Manchego cheese on a baguette with a bit of olive oil and onions.... you are missing one of the pure pleasure of life.
@Emilio Alvarez ... I go to a Publix grocery store... they make a fantastic sub ... I always order Mortadella + Jamón Serrano + Manchego Cheese + Mayo and lots of onions and a bit of lettuce..... heaven in a sandwich .... if they do not have Jamón Serrano I substitute Maple Glazed Ham... and if no Manchego I substitute Pepper Jack.... but they always seem to have the Mortadella .... I never like Salami or Pepperoni ....
@Emilio Alvarez ... you can buy slices from a deli... then buy an Italian baguette or French... and then make your own at home... I do that too... when I am not lazy.... use a good Mayonnaise... I hope you try it ... I am sure you will love it... now I am hungry.... hehehe.
Awesome interview, Thank you very much for this video 👍
Islam is a Mess
Islam was formed by people that didn't ever think their fake news would be discovered just like the Bible.
You guys will believe anything
@@joefilter2923 the irony
All religions look idiotic
Ismailis sound a little like Episcopalians….except for the 12 percent giving part
Great video - so relatable to the way the bible and the multiple christianities interconnect
A newer subscriber. Love the channel, and I LOVE the intro!! Keep up the good work!
Awesome.
This is the best myth vision you have done sir
I am Muslim and I'm really enjoying this podcast. I have found myself facing the same kinds of issues, but, at the same time, I'm very comfortable in my Muslim skin. To me, belief is less important than how you behave and how you speak and how you dress.
Belief is less important? 😂
You contradicting yourself, what you belief shape your speech and your view
@@adeyemostephen1986He's not contradictory.
@@blackpalacemusic 😂 you believe doing Good is good
That's why you do good
When does belief becomes less important when it all about your daily activity
@@adeyemostephen1986 You think people who smoke cigarettes, do so because they believe it's good?
@@blackpalacemusic ask them why they do
And they will tell you their beliefs
Maybe you don't know what belief is
Hi Abdullah, I was born to a paternal Buddhist background and maternal Catholic background. Due to mixed influences from the Temple, Church and the Hindu Kovil and my fellow Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist friends, browsing the Qur'an, bible, Torah, Hindu scriptures etc from the internet, and my scientific analysis made me conclude that every faith or philosophy has pluses and minuses along with preposterous, unscientific faith-magnets to lure in the people. Hence, I accept what is scientifically plausible and have explained to my children to use their wisdom, to believe in the scientific approach, logic, use common sense, good social moral and practices to live harmoniously in society. After all, even the Buddha has said to question and questions and question all his teachings and not to accept anything because it was said by him, in holy texts, passed down from generations, said by scholars or be it the social practice, unless it's fits one's wisdom. Now, that's acceptable for any period of time 😊
Another really good topic and really good show and really good guest. Kudos.
I learn so much about religions which I have no interest in participating in from your channel and others. I know almost nothing about islam, but as with all the abrahamic religions I like to learn more. Thank you for this great discussion.
Watch Christian Prince videos on youtube to educate yourself about Islam
This was awesome... I am an ex bible thumber... Baptized in the Catholic and Pentecost denominations. I was raised Baptist. I was mormon for a few years then join the Nation of Islam, dabbled in Sunni Islam .. Left all of that and now I am borderline agnostic/ nonbeliever so mythvision has been a great learning tool...
I love both of these guys channels, great crossover.
Your ex-muslim youtube tour isn't complete without the secular jihadists though.
Abdullah you are indeed a learned scholar deserving a Nobel prize for your intelligence. I stopped my children from going to Buddhist sunday school since they were using faith over fact and was building a the fraternity in the guise of good morals lije a sandwich while teaching good and unscientific stuff. Abdullah i wholeheartedly understand your position. In fact, I know a person who abandoned his wife and sick child after 50 years of marriage for priesthood due to childhood religious indoctrination by his mother who was deceased left his wife and elderly sick child to comply with his deceased mother and for social veneration which are against all morals. When i submitted all facts to the concerned parties, they turned against me and said such actions to be supreme for becoming a priest and cannot be understood by me. This us utter BS and sugarcoating such actions. I am a person who swims agaist the tide and trust me its so hard or virtually impossible to find an intelligent person who can discern right from wrong even if it means going against society.😢
I notice you don't have real muslim experts on your show, why is that? Ali Ataie, probably the ONLY HUMAN on this planet that knows classical Arabic/Hebrew/Coine Greek.
what else can be expected from derek? 😀 who maintains balance between paulinians and atheis.
Aside from some here and there trolls in the chat, great stuff! There's more outreach for Muslims now that we finally got an ex Muslim perspective in the video library. :3 Thanks for the work you do, MythVision Podcast! #GoVegan 💚 #AntiReligion #Agnostic #Spiritual #SimulationTheory #TomCampbell #Centrist
Wow I like you mentioned the story of Malcolm X
Wonderful interview!
Excellent interview
Oh. Hemant is a Friendly Atheist. Now Abdullah is a Friendly Ex-Muslim. Nice UA-cam channels.
If anyone is needing a general reference on religion, try ‘The Worlds Religions’ by Huston Smith.
Best way to be totally honest is to say to yourself, "I will accept(believe) whatever the evidence points to, even if it goes against my childhood indoctrination.This is how I came out of my indoctrination. I said to myself I must accept reluctuntly whatever the evidence point to as the nature of reality. , , , , ,
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Interesting. This is a case where the parents are more liberal than the child who strayed away.
To be fair a Sunni Muslim does not have to pay full cash to buy a house.I don't know the details but Muslims can go to a Muslim financial company and go through a co-buying process where the house buyer and the finance company share ownership and the finance's company share of ownership is bought by the house buyer over time.
EXCELENT ABDULLAH 👍👌🤝,THAT GOD IT'S CHAOS, IT'S DISASTER
Nice show!! 😳Great info!!!🤔🔥🔥🔥👍
The ongoing research by Mel from Sneaker´s Corner and dr. Jay Smith on Pfander films and their guests is very interesting. Maybe Umar was the man and Muhammed his title....
Wild speculations by history revisionists 1400 years after the event
Maybe his name is Ismael or Shuaib or Saleh or Lot ....and Muhammad is his title?
Great video, I believe in my spiritual moral compass. To respect others, be truthful and be at peace with yourself. No one is perfect but to learn by past mistakes and change. I don't follow any faith. Xx
Since Islam believes that Mohamed is guaranteed by God of going to Islamic paradise why the hell do Muslims all the time ( during prayers or no prayers ) say Sallahu Aleyhi wa sallim ( asking God to give Mohamed peace & paradise ) . Isn't that confusing , contradicting and wasting talk . Is it not nonesense to ask God to give paradise to one of His Own creatures who even claimed guarantee of such paradise ?
Islam is real hoax , a cheap sham fabrication
That doesn’t make any sense, you still hope goodness and well-being for someone even if you know they are.
@@abdigah5364a real hoax you say 😂 why have these atheists destroyed all cultures and religions but Islam. They may cripple our countries but can never extinguish the faith. Allah is the master planner.
@@Ufb10 Ask goodness from God for your self is normal But to ask something from God for someone who claimed to be a prophet of God and claimed have been guaranteed for Paradise is a contradictory rubbish waste
@@Ufb10 I don't know what he was , not even if such a strange person really existed
*Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at **AnsweringIslam.org** Hadith and Sira*
*Sahih Bukhari (52:177) -Allah's Apostle said, *"The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."*
*Sahih Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhamad hes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.*
*Sahih Bukhari (52:65) - The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word (Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause. Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad - spreading Islam by force. This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today. (See also Sahih Bukhari 3:125)*
*Abu Dawud (14:2526) (considered daif) - The Prophet said, Threethings are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet...*
*Abu Dawud (14:2527) (considered daif) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious*
*Sahih Muslim (**1:33**) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah*
*Sahih Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."*
*Sahih Muslim (**1:30**) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."*
*Sahih Bukhari (52:73) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords'."*
*Sahih Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."*
*Sahih Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."*
*Sahih Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad inOne of Islam's most revered modern scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, openly sanctions offensive Jihad: "In the Jihad which you are seeking, you look for the enemy and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only when the Islamic state is invading other [countries] in order to spread the word of Islam and to remove obstacles standing in its way."...*
Indeed . There are more , too
I am an exmuslim, this guy is wrong about getting loans. No interest loans are permitted. You get a loan with an agreed final amount that does not change fir the term of the loan. Its a better system. Eg: Borrow 100k and the lender asks for 20k fee for lending you the money. Interest is considered the Evil of the world. He is not quite accurate.
As an exmuslim It upsets me when accuracy is not used.... He is talking about people and not islam its self.
@@oliverswales5604 In Islam, a loan is seen as an act of charity, not an opportunity for increased wealth. Its purpose is to help someone in need. Loans (qard) never to bear interest (Riba). Instead,, a borrower must pay only the loan’s principal.
The Qur’an repeatedly contrasts charity with usury (riba) and has been considered one of the seven major destructive sins ever since the time of the Qu’ran’s origin.
Accuracy is important. The lender can ask for a fee for giving the loan if there is no other exchange that can be given. The fee must be agreeable to both parties. And is understood that it should not be higher than inflation costs.....
He didn't talk about interest free loans. He spoke about mortgages with interest.
This is why you don't believe without questioning. These cults are dangerous.
Great stuff! :3
Modern workers can be considered as slaves if exploited or mistreated. Slaves who were very ignorant or very poor were better off than to be left to starve but not exploited to be eventually weaned off to independence.
In Islam you won’t be eventually weaned off unless your owner desires it , if the owner wants he can keep you a slave all your life according to Islam if he wants he can free you
We are constantly fighting against such systems today , but Islam has forever left the door to slavery open because of the concept of jihad and they believe Islam is perfect
Every one should know that, All religions were created by men, where did they see god telling them about religion,
Invite Christian prince.
the core of islam is very clear
u seek for mess u get it
'In the 21st century, we should try and move on..'
To where, or to what, exactly? Notwithstanding the fact the ancient Judeo-Christian tradition is the very author of [a] universal moral value system we have today, in the 21st century.. Go back in time to the world Jephtah from Judges lived in, no one besides the people who worshipped Yhwh had a viable moral/ethical code to prevail. This means we have no better reference from far back in antiquity, for our morality in the present day. Go back to the days of Jephtah, we would with our contemporary understanding and knowledge find refuge with the Israelites, undoubtedly.
To go from one dimension to a higher dimensions, not necessarily from one physical planet to another planet. Imams ( like Hindu pujaries) are ritual discharges not scholars. Peace-be-upon-him is mere respectful attitude like “your highness” when referring to royal people.
What a treat. Thank you.
Pre-Islamic History & Early History of Arabia Just After Islam - part1
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Hmmm...sorry, but you lot know little about archaeology or history of the region, least of all this guy you invited. Here are tips to guide you:
- *Nabatean Arabs formed the first Arab empire* . They were mostly mercantile and influenced by the strong Greco-Roman presence around, such that their Semitic gods & goddesses acquired Hellenistic character.
*The Hellenized Nabateans had the following deities* :
Dushara = Zeus (some sources even mention the Pre-Islamic Allah equated to Zeus).
Al Kutbay = Hermes/Mercury
AlQaum = Ares/Mars
Manawat = Nemesis
Allat = Athena/Minerva
Al-Uzza = Aphrodite, Urania/Venus, and Caelestis.
- *The general Arabic word for deity is 'ilaah* إله'(sing.) = a god; and 'aalihah آلهة' (plural) = gods . One suggestion has been that 'Allah' is derived from 'al-ilaah'= The God, the 'alif' following the al- at the start being assimilated to give 'allaah'.
In Pre-Islamic Arabia the word 'Allah الله' of course existed and the idea represented the highest deity in the Pre-Islamic Arabian pantheon of gods, just like the list I show above for the Nabateans. Much like other ideas, such as the annual Hajj, circumambulations of the Ka'bah, fasting etc., all with Pre-Islamic origin, Islam offered a new meaning and understanding to these ideas in line with 'ad-Diin ul Haniif' (the faith of the Haniif = Abraham). Therefore 'Allah' acquired a specific meaning as 'the only God' (The God), just like in Judaism and various forms of Christianities.
Other Semitic languages also have equivalents and the closest being in Aramaic, the language of Jesus and his contemporaries. They spoke the Palestinian (Western) Aramaic dialect. Given that the language has other dialects, just like any other, the Syriac dialect, often called Syro-Aramaic, is the Eastern Aramaic dialect that was spoken in Ancient Syria and is still is spoken in some places in modern Syria!
Aramaic cognate to Arabic ʾIlāh إله':
Elah אלה means God
Elahi אלהי (elaahii) Is Aramaic for "My God". The same as the Arabic إلاهي ilaaahii = "My God".
In Urdu (also Persian) we still use إلاهي ilaaahii in speech, as well as poetry and prose. Written as الٰہی though, instead.
- *The word Allah , therefore, is Pre-Islamic Arabic name and all Muslim scholars know it just as they know that thee annual Hajj and fasting are all Pre-Islamic in origin. The advent of Islam just gave them a new meaning. The Quran even talk about some of these things* .
-There are some who argue argue and wonder about the origins of the Quranic script. We all know that the Arabic script we have is derived from Nabatean. This has been known for over a century, so all those who argue about the lack of diacritics in the earliest "maa'ili" or Hejazi script of the Quran papyri, or that it should be Sabaic, or the 'taa marbutah' or the 'alif maqsura' being there are problem, make no sense! None of these arguments hold including the often dubiously cited "diacritics argument" - they make no sense, i.e. if the Quran is from the South using Sabaic Arabic then it should have diacritics. It was never written in Sabaic! There are plenty of inscriptions in the southern regions using the same Arabic script as the Quran (the Nabatean script), and have no diacritics. Also, the Sabaic script was completely different too that it bears no relation.
-Additionally, *the Syro-Aramaic Quran idea was thoroughly discredited by western scholars of Aramiac & Semitic languages* , all the way back when the pseudonymous Christoph Luxenberg , a non-German thoroughly Lebanese pseudo scholar pretending to be German (!), with only a passing knowledge of Syriac and Aramaic, came up with this nonsense. This is as much believable as 'Haigarism' by Crone and Cook, another piece of non-scholarly and thoroughly defective work. Before her death Patricia Crone withdrew her waffle!
Here are some things that would interest some of you:
*Sabaic lexical survivals in the Arabic language and dialects of Yemen*
Walter W. Müller
Proceedings of the Seminar for Arabian Studies
Vol. 44, Supplement: Language of Southern Arabia: Papers from the Special Session of the Seminar for Arabian Studies held on 27 July 2013 (2014), pp. 89-99 (11 pages)
Published By: Archaeopress
Proceedings of the Seminar for Arabian Studies
www.jstor.org/stable/43782853
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This is the reason why I said Muslims religion derived from Catholic Christianity Mohammed didn't received a word he took the bible and made it for his people and rewritten / change by Caliph Uthman
Yes
Mr. Abdullah initial beliefs and the present beliefs are similar to Buddhist philosophy 😊
Great stuff
If this dude thinks usury is a win-win, he's got a lot of learning to do. Luckily he's still young
Well good luck buying a house or new car without some usury. You enter into it of your own volition.
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How is 2% APR or less usury?
Your interpretation of which is the true Islam depends on your position in the community 😂
That’s right. Mohammed was from Petra Jordan.
Zulqarnain expidition from black sea to caspian sea, and then to caucasia
Story of Buroq is similar with thor's flying donkey and he traveled trough the space without knowing earth is round,, that is why muslim's have qiblat..
If anyone is interested in hearing a progressive understanding of Christian teachings go watch the UA-cam videos of All Saints church in Pasadena. Yes, I too would like to hear an interview with a progressive Muslim. What was considered morally ok in the past is not so in the present ie child marriage, ie slavery, ie having your brother marry your wife if you die before you have children. I think it is really easy to say what we don't believe. It's much harder to say what we do believe in. I've noted that many atheists grew up in fundamentalist homes. I've also noticed that many are unable to think metaphorically.
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abraham thrown in the fire, cain and abel, crow digging up
where does sun set and rises
dhul qarnayn
sabah samawat 7 heavens
galenic embryology
1:20:00
Salvation is a personal journey, not a group journey. Elijah Mohamed is human. Follow God, not a human, like Christians & Nation of Islam & Aga Khan followers do. Some Muslims are on the boarder-line on prophet Mohamed’s status. In fact the Qur’an warns on that point. Stories from other than Qur’an is to be careful of, like Hadiths.
I don’t see any evidence for anything un-natural, therefore I am not convinced that there is anything unnatural or supernatural like gods, spirits, miracles, magic, ‘jadoo’, ‘jins’ and ‘rooh’ and gods . originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, , , ,
I did not use to click the "like" button because I travel to Pakistan and did not want to get into any trouble for liking your videos, , , ,
I put multiple comments in videos I agree with to get youtube algorithm to recommend it to others,,,,
Good stuff !
29:54 we understand all of that
u can do this or that it is not the back bone of religion
Would you accept an invitation to a muslim podcast Derek?
To preach why not
The son of God walking on water = some guy flying into heaven on the donkey. facepalm
Staf....Allah
Why don’t u bring a real expert on Islam on. You’re just bringing guests who say what u want to hear to confirm your conception that all religion is false. Echo chamber. So much for objectivity and truth.
Derek, go for the deep stuff. Gnosticism in Christianity, Kaballah in Judaism, Sufism in Islam, Advaita-Vedanta in Hinduism etc
Seek out the 'golden thread'..
More esoteric rubbish based on fairy tales.
One Simple Question...Please...Why is Islam gaining Millions Every Year of World Renowned Scholars and Non Scholars from all corners of the world from different age, sex, scientific, social and economic backgrounds?
Getting funded
Jeptah’s daughter .?????
My comment to mr. Sameer : Allah is too Powerful, too Glorified to matter much of your claims. Salvation is a personal journey. Umma is a support for the individual. Effort is more important than results. Try your best. Man is weak.
To paraphrase Lt.Col Kilgore (Robert Duvall) in 1979's cult-level classic Apocalypse Now
"God Loves the smell of Babies Burning in the morning! [....] Smells to him ... like Victory."
Why lie?
@@joefilter2923 Hmm... I'm confused: What do you mean by "Why lie?"...? Do you mean to say I am lying, or do you mean it as a .... (I'm trying to find the correct English word, which at times is severely difficult, so bear with me if - English isn't my native tounge, nor the native language where I reside) ... hm... okey, never mind the term, let's just go with a paraphrase of intention which would be something like: "I agree, there's no point in lying about it, and yet so many tires to hide from reality" - was that (a version of) what you ment to say?
As I said: I'm confused, because A: I know there are a hord of people out there who can't - or have a hard time doing so - cope with the reality of the bible, and of the Abrahamic god, including the different teachings and scriptures dealing with the Abrahamic god (i.e. Christianity, Judaism, Islam + their myriad of denominations). Not knowing you, I can't tell if you consider yourself a follower of any of them and feeling hurt, attacked, or questioned in your belief, or perhaps being one of the many who confess to a belief system without really being knowledgeable about the texts that dictates them, you fall backwards into false accusations - not out of spite, but out of self-preservation and/or misinformation? ... Again: I don't know you so I'm only guessing. Fully aware that I might be _way_ off and completely wrong! I'm also aware of the unfortunate fact that regardless if I'm hitting on something or if I'm completely wrong, I might be offending you. To that: Hopefully you'll take my word for my sincerity that it is not my intention to be offensive - My intention is trying to understand where you're coming from, while at the same time dealing with a subject that depending on who you're talking to, can be a figurative mine field.
... Wow, so many words, just to get to the next point ... or "part", if you will. (That's communication through the written word while dealing with barriers of language, distance, culture *_and_* personality, personal experience and personal reference, AND personal preference as well, for that matter. It's not easy being human, ey? ;) )
So, here we go: Why my confusion when the most logical interpretation aught to be that you're asking me why I'm lying?
Well, it's as simple as it is obvious: Because as far as I know, and as far as I can tell from what the sources say: I'm not lying. Yes, I'm inflating on a conceptual level in order to make a joke of a serious topic, but that's not lying: it's a humor style that's as valid as it is both well known, and commonly used.
And to do this thorough and correct:
My sources are imdb.com och youtube.com for the Apocalypse Now quote and info. And for the character of god, I'm referencing the bible. Specifically Judges 11:34-40 (chapter 11, verse 34-40, in which god - who's supposedly omniscient, and omnipotent, and omnibenevolent - chooses Jeftas only child; his daughter to be burnt as an offering to him. And since we know that it's fully within god's supposed power and capacity to stop this burning of Jeftas only child by a plethora of options (causing a hinderense of the fire being lit, refusing to accept the vow made by Jefta, telling Jefta it would be wrong to burn his own daughter, swap the daughter for a porcupine, etc. etc. etc.) The options are really only limited by ones imagination, because we're dealing with an all powerful deity who created every single thing in existence: god, and only god, dictates the rules of engagement. And god, and only god, can change the rules, rearrange the pawns, redraw the board and swap, mix, and assign the players. And he can do it permanently, or occasionally: At his wim, on his wim, by his wim. We are told this over and over and over again throughout all 66 books of the bible.
Point being: there's no limit to god's capabilities - If he doesn't act, it's because *he* chooses not to: there are no obligations when you're The One and Only God: Creator of Time, and Space and Everything in between. Ergo: God obviously likes it when parents burn their children, with the only possible caveat that it's done *for* him. Which, honestly, is a caveat that doesn't really speaks in god's favour, but that might just be me with my puny and limited not just _human_, but *atheist* =O sense of ethics and moral.
That's one hell of a long answer for you, but there you go: that's my take, my questions, and my answer (or "defense" - depending on how you look at it).
Cheers and Take care!
@@deviantoutcast I think your paraphrase shows the point very well.
He was is an ex-Qadiani, I believe , which isn't a muslim group, just like Nabeel Quraishi. They have weird beliefs , like there is another prophet after Muhammad(as).
Nabeel was a sunni whose ancestors were pakistanis
Omg.... abduls are funny
They love to post own fabrications 😂
I keep getting an ad on this video that's telling me Islamophobia is a billion dollar industry. LOL!
Republicans are deathly afraid of morality, and will pay anything to prevent it.
@@joefilter2923 Republicans are usually Christian.
@@joefilter2923 You spelt democrat wrong
We Earthlings must put the religion thing and the question of God to rest once and for all. There is no God, no Devil, no angels, no demons, no paradise, no hell, no underworld, they're all myths created by the Priests left by the Anunnaki. Those bozos, who always worked in tandem with Kings chosen by the same Anunnaki. Why Enlil or Enki had to win the heart and mind of the crowd? Because the young gods (their offspring born on the Earth) were challenging them for supremacy. And since the people had the choice to worship the gods they wish, a god who manages to gather enough followers, can overthrow or conquer another god's domain, like Enlil did with Sargon of Akkad.
And to those who claim there is a god, I'd like to ask them, why the Anunnaki, who created and conceived mankind, had their own GOD? They call HIM : THE GREAT CREATOR OF ALL BEGINNING. If our creators were worshiping their own deity, I'd like to know which GOD those various religions found on an industrial scale are talking about? This is a pure scam period.
We humans have all the right to practice spirituality, and you don't have to stick to a God that does not exist to reach beatitude and enlightment. What exist is science on all its forms;m even what we call magic and spell are part of science, and to practice the science of magic and the occult, you must know the rites and the encantations; and encantations help you master the vibratory world that will allow you to merge with universe, act and see.
There is no god or God, what the priests of this world do not want mankid to know is the fact that the GODS are us the Earthlings : We partly belong to this planet because one part of our DNA come from Nibiru; we are Earthlings and offspring of the gods. All of us are entitled to enjoy the ressources of our homeworld, not a tiny group of individuals who think they must stick to the system of slavery and crowd control the Anunnaki begun to practice after the Deluge. And as long as we don't free ourselves from the religion brain washing, there will always be masters and servants on this planet surface, not equal citizens of ONE HOME WORLD ...
Yes of course there are only aliens - they did everything.
❤yes
What a performance Abdullah S gives. He gives AP a run for his money. Zaki Naik a distant 3rd…….
So you brought this guy on, and that is your litmus.? Really?
Yo, I grew up in a legit Muslim fam, ya know? We ain't messin' around when it comes to the source of Islamic knowledge. We don't buy into that Bucailleism stuff, nah-uh! Islamic teachings are solid, bro. They ain't changin', while science keeps flippin' theories based on new evidence.
Islam ain't just some religion, man. It's a whole way of life. As for the political side, some peeps out there use Islam as a power tool to gain control, while others genuinely use it as a guide. So, don't go blaming Islam 'cause some folks manipulate it for their own gain.
Now, you wanna talk about why Islam ain't true? Well, gimme a solid argument. What you got?
Go and read your own Islamic scriptures properly filled with paedophilia sex slavery scientific errors instead of wasting time here
I've been more fascinated by Islam for a while now too.
I find their view of Jesus very interesting.
The 1400 years old book of regurgitated fairy tales says that its sky daddy did the job of blowing in the (الفرج) of Mary.... do you think this true or even moral or sane thing to say? Try to google that word.
Islam is an Arab centric heretical xtianity based on nestorianism and rabbinic Judaism.
In their mythology, Jesus is a prophet who did not die, and will return to "break the cross and kill the pigs."
It's not that interesting. It's just another overreaching faith based imperial cult.
In the Quran, the only message of Jesus is basically to say "I'm just a prophet". First of all, this contradicts the fact that he is also described as the messiah and word of god. Secondly, the message of Jesus is otherwise completely empty. how do you find that interesting?
What happened to this channel, it was supposed to interview scholars on religion but this video sounds somebody is still learning the alphabet of religion!
@Derek.... there is a worse story in the Tanakh that proves that *Yehwah COMMANDED and received human sacrifice in order to abate a famine he caused* ... in the story of Jephthah's Daughter, staunch apologists can try and wriggle and slither out of Yehwah being directly to blame ... but in this story, David sacrificed 7 grandsons of Saul... as commanded directly by Yehwah... and then Yehwah actually ended the famine which he caused and demanded human sacrifice to stave off.
2 Samuel 21:1-14 And there was a ***famine*** in the days of David three years.... And ***YHWH said*** : 'It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he put to death the Gibeonites.'... the king ***took the two sons*** of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore unto Saul... and the ***five sons of Michal*** the daughter of Saul... and they ***hanged them in the mountain before YHWH*** , and they fell all seven together; and ***they were put to death*** in the days of harvest... And after that ***God was entreated for the land***.
There is also another story where Yehwah commands the human sacrifice of a guy called Achan and his entire family and possessions in order to RESUME HELPING with war crimes that he commanded ... and he received the human sacrifice he commanded and did indeed resume in helping with the war crimes.
Joshua 7:1-26 ....for Achan, the son of Carmi, ... took of the devoted thing; and the ***anger of YHWH was kindled*** against the children of Israel.... And ***YHWH said*** unto Joshu... there is a curse in the midst of thee, O Israel... take away the accursed thing from among you .... And Joshua... ***took Achan ... and his sons, and his daughters,*** and his oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and his tent, and all that he had... And ***all Israel stoned him with stones; and they burned them with fire,*** and stoned them with stones....and ***YHWH turned from the fierceness of His anger***
And do not forget these others where Yehwah commanded human sacrifice
The firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast... I sacrifice to YHWH... (Exodus 13:1-16)
The firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me... (Exodus 22:29-30 )
3,000 Hebrews (Exodus 32:28)
32 little virgins from the genocided nation of Midianites (Numbers 31:40)
The daughter of Jephthah (Judges 11:30-39)
70,000 Israelites (2 Samuel 24:15)
Why are you preaching to us? We don't believe Yahweh ever existed.
@@spaceghost8995 Bingo A volcano god with a wife wants a sacrifice. Fake News 101.
This guy is confused big-time
This guy is very confused, he clearly did not understand Islam, for the sake of accuracy of information, I wouldn't take him seriously.
Lol yeah right same response by Muslims when people leave Islam😂
Gets properly tasty from 41:12
But at least JC said that no one knows. The Ismaili guy said that he knows everything.
Cult leaders are all bad no matter what they say.... JC was a cult leader.
@@suelingsusu1339 There is no proof the JC even existed ouside of the Scripures only hearsay.
@@buzzwordy9951 ... I agree of course... but horses for courses... for this guy he thinks he does and that he was a good guy... I am trying to show him that EVEN IF he did ... he was not a good guy.... this is a ubiquitous trope... they want to argue that Jesus was a kind of Gandhi or Martin Luther King or Nelson Mandela character and thus even without the religion and supernatural claptrap he was still a real GREAT guy.... and to argue the myth angle is way too much above the head of theses people... much easier to just show them that the very New Tall tales show him to have been a NASTY poltroon and a racist Cad who was a Cult leader FISHER OF MEN and a pissant who did nothing and achieved nothing and wrote nothing and changed nothing and did not even start a movement ... just a gang of mendicant hobos who left their jobs and their children and families unprotected and unprovided for to go about having feet washing orgies and midnights in secluded gardens and deceiving poor people with false faith healing voodoo and other magic tricks.
@@suelingsusu1339 You will never convince a Jesus freak about anything unless you are agreeing with him. They are in a mind trap that holds them believing. I'd rather keep my mind free and the windows open.
@@buzzwordy9951 ... I agree... the smothering PALL of blind faith they have draped on their minds is suffocating 😔
Abdullah Sameer plz don’t misrepresent facts. Tell me where in Quran violence has been encouraged.
You didnt bother to read it then
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You talking about Islam but showing pictures of Hinduism, Greek Myths, Buddhism, Cartoon figures, Egyptian diagrams. Complete opposite of Islam, ie no images, idols or anything.
So I got it. Abdullah (?) Sameer has left Quran because of an Imam. And he is translating Abdullah as meaning servant of a devil. Sameer must be son or servant of devil and shaitan but Abdullah means servant of Allah
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If you are taking idiots like Abdullah Sameer onto your show, then I say that you clearly have no clue about how much of an outcast he was, even in his former life.
I'm sure you're not biased
u just have to disrespect anyone wholeft the religion and just cant digest to be respectful just like 'allah' isnt. as if u almost dehumanize these people in your head. how else would u jusrtify allah saying these ppl should be killed.
This isn't pornhub site, habibi
U r so lovely
36.05 tell now u do not learn that talmud qoute from the Quran ?!!
talmud evolve tell now ?